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And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.
Rush Limbaugh used to make fun of the leftist media who loved Gorbachev by saying they were having a "gorbasm". I believe some of you are having a "putigasm" .
Oh the clown and ho show might do something more stupid before that happens. They can’t let a crisis go to waste ya know.
Originally Posted by viking
Oh the clown and ho show might do something more stupid before that happens. They can’t let a crisis go to waste ya know.


Yeah. Their clowns havent released a chemical weapons attack killing civilians yet so Bidet can blame Putin.

Problem is Bidet is under a lot of pressure with the coming news releases of him and Hunter being pedophiles.
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Hummmm...."opens the door to more serious charges........."

Now what could that mean? Could it mean more Conspiracy Theories will still be coming true?
Well, isnt it true that most of them do?
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Will the Laptop from Hell eat Kilery too?

He'll be ok. His crooked ass has plenty of money set to the side.

https://new-economy.gr/2022/03/13/zelensky-pandora/
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Rush Limbaugh used to make fun of the leftist media who loved Gorbachev by saying they were having a "gorbasm". I believe some of you are having a "putigasm" .


Or a Zelinsgasm?
Never forget this truism; the first casualty of war is the truth.

And that goes for all sides....not just one side.
One of my favorite Q drops seems to be working it's way to fruition with regard to the news concerning Hunter and his Laptop From Hell.

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IDK but I hope more journalist and redditors eat dirt before its over.
Originally Posted by BCBH
IDK but I hope more journalist and redditors eat dirt before its over.


It was nice to see a real warrior, Ret Col McGregor telling it like it is last night on Faux Nues on Hannity iirc.

The truth has a way of leaking out when the Patriots are in control.

Patriots are in control in the same way that Putin and Russia could cut through Europe in a week and the US would lose a "peer to peer" battle with them handily.

There's a famous saying in sports "potential gets coaches fired" - that is players with "potential" that never live up to it tend to get their coach fired for not achieving it ever. Q is exactly that. Rife with "could" "maybe" and "perhaps" - completely devoid of "did" "is" and "happened".
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.



Their Milking the US Treasury.. The War stops when their Done destroying our Financial System..
Enriching the Global Cabal..
They want a Situation where they just give it a Slight Push..
Putin will get most of what he wants in the End..
They get Total Destruction of our Capital Markets
Then Feudalism for US..
Keep your Eye on the Derby Donkey named Mitch and Ms. Lindsay their moves will be Essential..
Trust the Plan..
Russia will tap out in two-three weeks...
Lost 15% of manpower, 1500 documented pieces of equipment in three weeks!
Real number is much higher!!
Corruption and Yes men has drained the Russian economy and military for decades now.. and here is the result.
Tens of thousands of 19 year old conscripts, sent into war, with 2 months of training and barely any food.
Their "secure coms" are cheap Chinese Radios bought on eBay.

Against a NATO trained army, with modern equipment, willing to give their lives to become a European country and not some slave state of a "New Russian Empire" dream..



Putin made the blunder of the century... and has crashed the Russian economy.
Rubble is down 70-80%, Stockmarket at 0%, any life savings regular Russians had is GONE, hyperinflation and food shortages are about to begin.
Stolen 700 Airbus and Boing planes, with no source of spare parts, which means they will never be used anywhere else again...
western companies is leaving and writing of their losses... and/or Russia is nationalizing companies that are left...
Which means Russia will not see Western investors for decades.


Zelenskyy is and will always be remembered as the Savior of Ukraine and Europe!

While Putin will go down in History as the man who made Russia into a [bleep] country.




Russia has two choices in the next few weeks...
Putin stays: Closed of from the West and becomes Chinas bitch and will be bleed dry of its resources. China will not even use Lube while doing it... thats how bad Putin fcked up!

Putin goes : Denuclearize, beg profusely on their knees for forgiveness, become a Real Democracy, and in a decade or two their economy will start to improve.

.
That’s what Hitler Thought..
Putin is a Bulldog.. He has to Be or he’s Toast..
By the way.. 4 Heavy Russian Transports passed by Japan in the Last 2 Days ..
Men and Equipment Gentlemen..
Originally Posted by Tarbe
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Rush Limbaugh used to make fun of the leftist media who loved Gorbachev by saying they were having a "gorbasm". I believe some of you are having a "putigasm" .


Or a Zelinsgasm?



That’s by design, to keep us arguing with ourselves instead of focusing on what they don’t want you to...

Election fraud
Covid fraud
Hunter’s laptop
Milley’s treason
Hillary’s treason
Political corruption
Corruption of the alphabet agencies
Killing the US economy to usher in digital currency and social credit scores
The list goes on and on
I'm still in awe that this place is full of commie lovers.

Fuuck Russia and Putin.

Unfortunately, three idiots wanting him assassinated have forgotten how well that worked in Iraq.

Vacuums suck too, and are unstable.

But, hey, Biden tried to get Ukraine's government to run, so staying and fighting Russians must be good, right?
The truth is always elucive because everyone has their own truth and the media will only parrot theirs. The sad truth is our government and most of the world's governments as well is corrupt. One truth that never changes is when the government allows an election to be stolen and the citizens to be treated as subjects it is not a democracy or a republic. Since when is the invasion of a corrupt nation, Ukraine, more important than the invasion of our republic on the southern border? If Zelensky had the safety and security of his nation in mind he wouldn't have gone to the lengths to allow so many to suffer from his decision to defy the simple demand of neutrality. Ukraine has not and was never destined to be a member of NATO. The sad truth is NATO has too many nations in it. It has been corrupted by leadership of oligarchs and despots. The highly vaunted NATO military has the reputation of unrelenting rape of any nation they attack.
Originally Posted by Northman
Russia will tap out in two-three weeks...
Lost 15% of manpower, 1500 documented pieces of equipment in three weeks!
Real number is much higher!!
Corruption and Yes men has drained the Russian economy and military for decades now.. and here is the result.
Tens of thousands of 19 year old conscripts, sent into war, with 2 months of training and barely any food.
Their "secure coms" are cheap Chinese Radios bought on eBay.

Against a NATO trained army, with modern equipment, willing to give their lives to become a European country and not some slave state of a "New Russian Empire" dream..



Putin made the blunder of the century... and has crashed the Russian economy.
Rubble is down 70-80%, Stockmarket at 0%, any life savings regular Russians had is GONE, hyperinflation and food shortages are about to begin.
Stolen 700 Airbus and Boing planes, with no source of spare parts, which means they will never be used anywhere else again...
western companies is leaving and writing of their losses... and/or Russia is nationalizing companies that are left...
Which means Russia will not see Western investors for decades.


Zelenskyy is and will always be remembered as the Savior of Ukraine and Europe!

While Putin will go down in History as the man who made Russia into a [bleep] country.




Russia has two choices in the next few weeks...
Putin stays: Closed of from the West and becomes Chinas bitch and will be bleed dry of its resources. China will not even use Lube while doing it... thats how bad Putin fcked up!

Putin goes : Denuclearize, beg profusely on their knees for forgiveness, become a Real Democracy, and in a decade or two their economy will start to improve.

.



Or he stays in the game and asks Europe for an increase is gas and electricity fees.
Originally Posted by Teal
Patriots are in control in the same way that Putin and Russia could cut through Europe in a week and the US would lose a "peer to peer" battle with them handily.

There's a famous saying in sports "potential gets coaches fired" - that is players with "potential" that never live up to it tend to get their coach fired for not achieving it ever. Q is exactly that. Rife with "could" "maybe" and "perhaps" - completely devoid of "did" "is" and "happened".


Too bad you cant connect the dots. Did you also believe the MSM when they said Biden won fair and square? How about all the other schiett they lie about?

Zero, Hillary, Piglosi, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, Fauki, Soros, WHO, CDC, FDA, Pfizer, Moderna, the vaxes, all good?

Trump, Que, Putin, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin all bad?

Hide and watch. As Que said, the Cabal stepped in the trap and they will have pain. None of the big ones will escape what is coming. They wont be able to walk the streets. Durham is coming after them. Trump will be back. The people will turn against the left and become the stone. The MSM, Facebook and Twitter will be destroyed or become public utilities, the FBY and CYA destroyed. CYA job will be given to NSA. Putin and Xi will become our allies.

Give us some more MSM talking points concerning Q. Too bad you took up their mantra without doing due diligence.
If you had just listened to Trump at his rallies you would have heard his stories about DC and 17.

Count the flags dumbass and try to get a clue.

13 for the original colonies and add 4 for Trump.

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Of course Teazone already knew all these things. You also knew and told us what the 2018 Senate race R vs D count would turn out 2 mo before the election even though 2 races were contested by the Ds for weeks. You told us as Q did not to worry as it didnt matter if we lost the House because all we needed for Trump and the Patriots plan to work was to keep control of the Senate. You knew that all along didnt you, Teazone.

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Tell us how you knew all this schiett all along too, Teazone.

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None are so stupid as those who reject things out of hand without investigating.
Tea, why didn't you tell us as Q did in 2018 that Trump would get his own social media and news platform? We would have welcomed that news from you.
Originally Posted by viking
Or he stays in the game and asks Europe for an increase is gas and electricity fees.



Well... Dictators needs to win in order to stay in power.
If he is seen as weak, he is in danger.

And when more Russians understand how many Russian kids have died for nothing.
And their military is shown to be a complete farce.
Food shortages in stores, No more western media, games, food, Coca Cola,

Russia will basically become North Korea 2.0


And EU has started to find other sources for their Gas and Oil.



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Originally Posted by akrange
By the way.. 4 Heavy Russian Transports passed by Japan in the Last 2 Days ..
Men and Equipment Gentlemen..


It will take them 2-3 weeks to arrive...

But Turkey has closed the Bosporous straight.
No Russian warships allowed in..
Originally Posted by Northman
Russia will tap out in two-three weeks...
Lost 15% of manpower, 1500 documented pieces of equipment in three weeks!
Real number is much higher!!
Corruption and Yes men has drained the Russian economy and military for decades now.. and here is the result.
Tens of thousands of 19 year old conscripts, sent into war, with 2 months of training and barely any food.
Their "secure coms" are cheap Chinese Radios bought on eBay.

Against a NATO trained army, with modern equipment, willing to give their lives to become a European country and not some slave state of a "New Russian Empire" dream..



Putin made the blunder of the century... and has crashed the Russian economy.
Rubble is down 70-80%, Stockmarket at 0%, any life savings regular Russians had is GONE, hyperinflation and food shortages are about to begin.
Stolen 700 Airbus and Boing planes, with no source of spare parts, which means they will never be used anywhere else again...
western companies is leaving and writing of their losses... and/or Russia is nationalizing companies that are left...
Which means Russia will not see Western investors for decades.


Zelenskyy is and will always be remembered as the Savior of Ukraine and Europe!

While Putin will go down in History as the man who made Russia into a [bleep] country.




Russia has two choices in the next few weeks...
Putin stays: Closed of from the West and becomes Chinas bitch and will be bleed dry of its resources. China will not even use Lube while doing it... thats how bad Putin fcked up!

Putin goes : Denuclearize, beg profusely on their knees for forgiveness, become a Real Democracy, and in a decade or two their economy will start to improve.

.



Excellent summary of Russia's "State of the Union". RJ
Putin literally shut down Russia's internet so people wouldn't know what's going on.

Please tell me of even one time in history when the people doing oppressive censoring of information were the "good guys?"
So much BS here it is not funny.
Those truly in the "know" realize there is much more to be observed.
Russia is nowhere near being finished.
And the world leaders know it.
Originally Posted by goalie
Putin literally shut down Russia's internet so people wouldn't know what's going on.

Please tell me of even one time in history when the people doing oppressive censoring of information were the "good guys?"





Like here?
Originally Posted by viking
Originally Posted by goalie
Putin literally shut down Russia's internet so people wouldn't know what's going on.

Please tell me of even one time in history when the people doing oppressive censoring of information were the "good guys?"




Like here?


Really? When did .gov literally shut out internet traffic from the rest of the world?
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by viking
Originally Posted by goalie
Putin literally shut down Russia's internet so people wouldn't know what's going on.

Please tell me of even one time in history when the people doing oppressive censoring of information were the "good guys?"




Like here?


Really? When did .gov literally shut out internet traffic from the rest of the world?



Think about the social media canceling those who express opinions running counter to the official narrative. Just as bad and maybe worse.

It seems to me that everyone taking a strong position in all this is reliant upon reports from many sources, none of which IMO have proven to be reliable. We're all free to make up our own minds, but for my part nobody really knows what's happening...but I do know that the media that we KNOW has repeatedly lied to us and attempted to manipulate us is pushing a narrative that looks like a big rusty hook to this fish.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Teal
Patriots are in control in the same way that Putin and Russia could cut through Europe in a week and the US would lose a "peer to peer" battle with them handily.

There's a famous saying in sports "potential gets coaches fired" - that is players with "potential" that never live up to it tend to get their coach fired for not achieving it ever. Q is exactly that. Rife with "could" "maybe" and "perhaps" - completely devoid of "did" "is" and "happened".


Too bad you cant connect the dots. Did you also believe the MSM when they said Biden won fair and square? How about all the other schiett they lie about?

Zero, Hillary, Piglosi, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, Fauki, Soros, WHO, CDC, FDA, Pfizer, Moderna, the vaxes, all good?

Trump, Que, Putin, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin all bad?

Hide and watch. As Que said, the Cabal stepped in the trap and they will have pain. None of the big ones will escape what is coming. They wont be able to walk the streets. Durham is coming after them. Trump will be back. The people will turn against the left and become the stone. The MSM, Facebook and Twitter will be destroyed or become public utilities, the FBY and CYA destroyed. CYA job will be given to NSA. Putin and Xi will become our allies.

Give us some more MSM talking points concerning Q. Too bad you took up their mantra without doing due diligence.
If you had just listened to Trump at his rallies you would have heard his stories about DC and 17.

Count the flags dumbass and try to get a clue.

13 for the original colonies and add 4 for Trump.

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Of course Teazone already knew all these things. You also knew and told us what the 2018 Senate race R vs D count would turn out 2 mo before the election even though 2 races were contested by the Ds for weeks. You told us as Q did not to worry as it didnt matter if we lost the House because all we needed for Trump and the Patriots plan to work was to keep control of the Senate. You knew that all along didnt you, Teazone.

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Tell us how you knew all this schiett all along too, Teazone.

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None are so stupid as those who reject things out of hand without investigating.


Jag - seriously, get some help. I disagree with your blind worship of a false god and you try and go nuclear.

I don't believe Biden won, I don't believe the MSM (and I was on that path LONG before you were or Q was on the radar- like say 20 YEARS ago when I started working as an intelligence analyst and everyone here was orgasming over Fox News), I don't believe any of those dems are good or that the Covid alternatives are bad. Find a post here of mine where I say that. Please. Just one. If you do - I'll leave the campfire forever. Scout's honor.

The only dumbass are the ones ascribing all of this to some shadow figure who keeps moving the goal posts and promising "heaven" just over the hill. A "heaven" that isn't coming.

As far as "getting a clue" - I spent years working with experts and BEING the expert for the policy makers and tactical commanders on several subjects. I've shared my knowledge here of such matters - such as Russian officers being MUCH farther down the chain than ours and thus - 4 dead in a short war is not only possible but likely. I've lived with, worked with learned a ton from people who are DOING not just cutting and pasting when it comes to OB, BDA and OSINT analysis.

Much more credibility than someone posting the drivel we've been spammed with for the last 2+ years. I HAVE investigated with a jaundiced eye. I don't make vauge hints fit events - I need to see events fit direct statements. You post 3 and 4 year old open source information with "something is coming" - no sheit. Something will happen if you wait long enough and yet ZERO and I mean ZERO definitive definition of "something" 4 years ago so "anything" fits for those so desperate to believe.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by viking
Originally Posted by goalie
Putin literally shut down Russia's internet so people wouldn't know what's going on.

Please tell me of even one time in history when the people doing oppressive censoring of information were the "good guys?"




Like here?


Really? When did .gov literally shut out internet traffic from the rest of the world?


The gov has, with the help of the platforms, squashed narratives they don't like. CV19 being the largest, longest and most recent I can think of. People are removed, their voice cancelled and then doxxed.
Originally Posted by goalie
Putin literally shut down Russia's internet so people wouldn't know what's going on.

Please tell me of even one time in history when the people doing oppressive censoring of information were the "good guys?"





Hey, Vlad got the fellas all Horned up with those shirtless pictures. Don’t ruin the fantasy for them.
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Teal
Patriots are in control in the same way that Putin and Russia could cut through Europe in a week and the US would lose a "peer to peer" battle with them handily.

There's a famous saying in sports "potential gets coaches fired" - that is players with "potential" that never live up to it tend to get their coach fired for not achieving it ever. Q is exactly that. Rife with "could" "maybe" and "perhaps" - completely devoid of "did" "is" and "happened".


Too bad you cant connect the dots. Did you also believe the MSM when they said Biden won fair and square? How about all the other schiett they lie about?

Zero, Hillary, Piglosi, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, Fauki, Soros, WHO, CDC, FDA, Pfizer, Moderna, the vaxes, all good?

Trump, Que, Putin, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin all bad?

Hide and watch. As Que said, the Cabal stepped in the trap and they will have pain. None of the big ones will escape what is coming. They wont be able to walk the streets. Durham is coming after them. Trump will be back. The people will turn against the left and become the stone. The MSM, Facebook and Twitter will be destroyed or become public utilities, the FBY and CYA destroyed. CYA job will be given to NSA. Putin and Xi will become our allies.

Give us some more MSM talking points concerning Q. Too bad you took up their mantra without doing due diligence.
If you had just listened to Trump at his rallies you would have heard his stories about DC and 17.

Count the flags dumbass and try to get a clue.

13 for the original colonies and add 4 for Trump.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Of course Teazone already knew all these things. You also knew and told us what the 2018 Senate race R vs D count would turn out 2 mo before the election even though 2 races were contested by the Ds for weeks. You told us as Q did not to worry as it didnt matter if we lost the House because all we needed for Trump and the Patriots plan to work was to keep control of the Senate. You knew that all along didnt you, Teazone.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Tell us how you knew all this schiett all along too, Teazone.

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None are so stupid as those who reject things out of hand without investigating.


Jag - seriously, get some help. I disagree with your blind worship of a false god and you try and go nuclear.

I don't believe Biden won, I don't believe the MSM (and I was on that path LONG before you were or Q was on the radar- like say 20 YEARS ago when I started working as an intelligence analyst and everyone here was orgasming over Fox News), I don't believe any of those dems are good or that the Covid alternatives are bad. Find a post here of mine where I say that. Please. Just one. If you do - I'll leave the campfire forever. Scout's honor.

The only dumbass are the ones ascribing all of this to some shadow figure who keeps moving the goal posts and promising "heaven" just over the hill. A "heaven" that isn't coming.

As far as "getting a clue" - I spent years working with experts and BEING the expert for the policy makers and tactical commanders on several subjects. I've shared my knowledge here of such matters - such as Russian officers being MUCH farther down the chain than ours and thus - 4 dead in a short war is not only possible but likely. I've lived with, worked with learned a ton from people who are DOING not just cutting and pasting when it comes to OB, BDA and OSINT analysis.

Much more credibility than someone posting the drivel we've been spammed with for the last 2+ years. I HAVE investigated with a jaundiced eye. I don't make vauge hints fit events - I need to see events fit direct statements. You post 3 and 4 year old open source information with "something is coming" - no sheit. Something will happen if you wait long enough and yet ZERO and I mean ZERO definitive definition of "something" 4 years ago so "anything" fits for those so desperate to believe.


Don't bother.

Faith requires no critical thinking or evidence.

He has faith.

Trust the plan.
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by viking
Originally Posted by goalie
Putin literally shut down Russia's internet so people wouldn't know what's going on.

Please tell me of even one time in history when the people doing oppressive censoring of information were the "good guys?"




Like here?


Really? When did .gov literally shut out internet traffic from the rest of the world?


The gov has, with the help of the platforms, squashed narratives they don't like. CV19 being the largest, longest and most recent I can think of. People are removed, their voice cancelled and then doxxed.


And, can we agree that doing so is bad, and done by bad people with bad intentions?

This isn't binary. Russia isn't good and isn't our friend. That doesn't mean our own government is good, or Ukraine's government is good.

The logical fallacy of the false dichotomy.
It'll be a while... From a good source..

Here just a short review of most important events of the last 24 hours (17 Mar 22), before I continue with my analysis of the air war over Ukraine in the first three weeks of this conflict.
CAA - Combined Arms Army (Russia)
BTG - Battalion Tactical Group (Russia)
GMRD - Guards Motor Rifle Division (Russia)
GTA - Guards Tank Army (Russia)
GTD - Guards Tank Division (Russia)
IFV - infantry fighting vehicle
LOC - Line of Control (old frontline between Ukraine and Separatists in the Donbass region)
MANPAD – man-protable air defence system
MBT - main battle tank
MRB - Motorized Rifle Brigade
MRD - Motorized Rifle Division
PGM – precision guided munition
RFA – Russian Federation Army/Russian Armed Forces
RF-9xxxx - Russian military aviation registration
SAM – surface-to-air missile
UAF – Ukrainian armed Forces
UCAV – unmanned combat aerial vehicle
VDV - Vozdushno-desantnye voyska (Russian Airborne forces)
VKS - Vozdushno-kosmicheskiye sily (Air-Space Force, Russia)
West OSK – Western Military District, RFA
A note for the start: Ironically, I’ve announced I’ll slow down, yesterday – and the Ukrainian MOD promptly ceased providing details about developments on the battlefield. I understand this as, 'they have good reasons why'.
‘Is OK, don’t worry’: there are more than enough other sources to get info from, and then cross-check. Actually, I hardly used anything from the Ukrainian MOD so far - except for orientation purposes. Plus – except one is directly involved, or has friends and/or relatives there - there wasn’t that much going on on battlefields of Ukraine War, yesterday.
For example, in the Kyiv area there was only sporadic shelling and rocketing. Sure, tragically, this has caused additional civilian casualties. Similar is valid for Chernihiv and Kharkiv. Further south-east, it turned out the Ukrainians have recovered the southern side of Izium, two-three days ago: the 144th MRD has attempted to capture the same, yesterday, but was ambushed and lost a number of vehicles (yes, 'once again').
At least in theory, more important is a report along which the Ukrainians have hit the field HQ of the 35th CAA, north-west of Kyiv, yesterday. This remains unconfirmed as of right now, but if they have delivered such a blow, it might prompt another, days-long delay in further Russian offensive operations in this part of Ukraine.
In the Luhansk area, the Russians are claiming to have captured Rubizhne: actually, they did reach the northern outskirts, before running out of steam: too few troops to run a bigger assault. For similar reasons, also the attacks on Sieveierodonetsk and Popasna remained unsuccessful.
In Mariupol, there is bitter house-to-house fighting in the western centre of the city. The only thing I’m sure by now is that, in the East, the 150th MRD suffered heavy losses and was stopped while advancing along the M14 highway in between the Kalmiusky District in the North, and Livoberezhnyi District in the south. Two days ago, the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade and Separatists have run that attack from West in direction of the Freedom Square, but were cut to pieces: word is the Separatists have lost another of their commanders: I just couldn’t find out his name. Of course, the city is all the time plastered by air strikes and artillery.
If there are really ‘news’, then from the battlefields in the south, and then the western bank of Dnepr, in the Mykolaiv area. Before I go on in this regards, please mind: in cases of wars like this one, I'm regularly about 2-6 days ahead of the mainstream media (so much so, the following segment was originally written already two days ago). Thus, don't be surprised if you now get to hear something that wasn't reported anywhere else.
Namely, regardless what are all the possible maps published on the TV and the internet shown, since two days the 58th CAA is on full withdrawal back to Kherson. Realising the Russians have no troops to launch an amphibious landing on Odessa, the Ukrainians brought in their 28th Mechanised Brigade and, pushing south from Mykolaiv, liberated Posad-Pokrovske on the M14 highway (that’s only some 40km outside Kherson).
About 200km further north, the Ukrainians have liberated Mala Shestirnya (also on the western bank of Dnepr, but south of Kryvyi Rih), too. Think, whoever is in command of the 58th CAA, might now want to pull back all of his troops and concentrate on defending Kherson - which is going to be a big trouble alone because of constant unrest and protests by the population inside (which are going on for two weeks, meanwhile).
BTW, Ukrainian Su-24s and Su-25s flew at least eight combat sorties in support of the counter-offensive of their ground forces along the M14, yesterday.
***
Which is bringing me to the...
Air War over Ukraine, Part 3
Before I go on into specific other details: chat with a Syrian contact, yesterday evening, reminded me of an important experience with Russians in the war there, back from 2015-2018.
Actually, it’s an extremely bad idea to mark buildings with Red Crosses and words like ‘Children’ when fighting a war with them.
In Syria of September 2015, the insurgents have – via the White Helmets and the UN – informed the Russian HQ at Hmeymim AB about every single of hospitals in areas held by them. They have provided precise coordinates, expecting the VKS to avoid these.
The Russians bombed every single of hospitals in question, and then launched a smear campaign against the White Helmets, declaring them for ‘jihadists’.
When the insurgents began hiding their hospitals, the Russians somehow got coordinates for these (probably bribed somebody at the UN), and bombed them too. Without exception.
…and, hand on heart, pilots are so busy flying their jets at 900km/h (+) without colliding with the ground, they’ve got no time to ‘read’ what’s written on or around some building: they have got their coordinates from superior commanders, are following orders and are bombing these.
Thus, my recommendation for Ukrainians: do not clearly mark your hospitals, ambulances, kindergartens or public shelters. HIDE THEM.
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Having cleared that, now let’s see what is the Ukrainian Air Force Doing the last three weeks.
The Ukrainian Air Force has no such ‘force multipliers’ like A-50s, and even if: due to their size and slow speed, these would be ‘targets No.1’ for the VKS and thus far too vulnerable to operate. Indeed, even Ukrainian ground-based radars are only capable of operating for limited periods of time (say: 60-120 seconds at time): then they have to turn off in order to conceal their position.
Why that?
Early warning/surveillance radars are powerful systems, emitting huge amounts of electromagnetic energy. Their work is thus easily detected by modern-day sensors - as used by all armed forces for so-called ELINT-purposes (stands for 'Electronic Intelligence'). Unsurprisingly, the effect of powering up one of them on a modern battlefield can best be compared with turning on a hand-held lamp on a darkened football stadium by night: the holder of the lamp can only see what the lamp enlightens, but everybody – even in the rearmost corner of that stadium – can see the position of the lamp-holder. At least as long as the lamp is on…
Thus, better to turn the lamp on for only very short periods of time, and always change position immediately after. This comes at the price of the Ukrainians having a very poor ‘radar picture’ of their airspace, and – probably – depending on reports about visual observations instead. The latter is a well-proven, ages-old practice, but lately severely curtailed by massive, low clouds hanging over Ukraine. In turn, clouds are something neither Ukrainian nor Russian pilots like to fly through: the mass of both is only poorly trained in operations in adverse weather.
In regards of flight operations… As reported already several times, late in the evening of 23 February, the Ukrainian Air Force has quickly evacuated all of air bases in northern and eastern parts of the country. Around 22.00hrs that evening, one could track that evacuation even on the FlightRadar24.com, because numerous of involved transports and helicopters had their transponders activated.
Ever since, combat aircraft and helicopters are well-dispersed and -concealed, while many of transports were flown out of the country. This is why the Ukrainian fleet of aircraft and helicopters survived the first two days of the Russian onslaught in a relatively ‘intact’ condition.
Meanwhile, UkAF’s primary problems are communication and maintenance. Yes, types like MiG-29, Su-25 and Su-27 are made for ‘rough field’ operations, and can operate from grass strips, if necessary. But, maintaining them under such conditions is anything than easy: maintenance requires cleanliness and tools, and maintaining these two factors, literally ‘in the field’, is not easy. Their next problem is fuel: the Russians are continuously targeting fuel depots of major Ukrainian air bases with their ballistic missiles.
If the fuel is destroyed, it’s not available. Even if it is ‘just’ contaminated, its use can necessitate a complete engine removal.
That’s no ‘fun’ under field conditions…
…and then the air-to-air missiles – especially the medium-ranged R-27 (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘AA-10 Alamo’) - are renowned for ‘not liking’ being roughly handled: due to resulting vibrations, any take-off or landing on a grass runway is near-certain to ruin all the rounds carried by the jet. Under the given conditions, at the time the UkAF is surely going to experience massive problems while trying to maintain and/or repair its stocks of air-to-air missiles, this means, ‘once and forever’.
Now comes that with communications: because it usually takes long for the HQ to figure out where are potential targets and what aircraft are available where, the UkAF is operating only against targets it can be sure are going to remain within a specific zone for long enough. Then the Su-24s, or, and more often, Su-25s are directed into strikes on RFA’s ground units. Mind: they operate with a bare minimum of intelligence about the strength and disposition of the Russian air defence. Unsurprisingly, and as should be meanwhile clear, involved crews are exposing themselves to the full power of the Russian arsenal and most of their sorties are either intercepted by VKS’ Su-27s, Su-30s, and Su-35s, or by ground-based air defences. Consequence are very heavy losses.
MiG-29s and Su-27s are used for interception only, and only if there is a ‘good opportunity’, and then armed with R-27s. Why that? The Russians are not even trying to engage them in dogfights, but firing their own R-27s and – slightly shorter-ranged, but active-radar-homing R-77s (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘AA-12 Adder’) - from near-maximum range. Why taking risk to get shot down by one of nearly ineffective Ukrainian interceptors, if one can smack them from stand-off range….? Correspondingly, Ukrainians need ‘speed’ and ‘range’, not ‘manoeuvrability’.
One thing the UkAF MiG-29- and Su-27-pilots tried earlier during the war was to target the VKS aircraft with R-27ETs. Mind that for combat jets, activating radar is similar like that with early warning/surveillance radars, i.e. hand-held lamp on a darkened stadium by night. Thus, pilots are usually trying to approach their opponent without turning their radars on. The R-27ET is the infr-ared homing variant of this missile system, which means that – contrary to the R-27ER semi-active radar-homing variant – it requires no radar to be activated: it can be aimed and fired with help of the MiG-29’s and Su-27’s electro-optical targeting system.
Problem: R-27ET’s seeker head is dated (from the early 1980s) and has a relatively short acquisition range. Several UkAF MiGs and Sukhois have been shot down by Russian interceptors while trying to cut the range and deploy their R-27ETs.
(In this regards, the Ukrainians are now going through almost the same experience like Indian Su-30MKI-crews when trying to combat Pakistani F-16s and JF-17s during clashes back in February 2019: the sole difference is that – thanks to far better (and more intensive) tactical training, and superior situational awareness, and regardless of all the Pakistani- (and some US-) science fiction – the Indians lost none of their Su-30MKIs: by now it’s certain that the Ukrainians lost at least four of their MiG-29- and Su-27-pilots killed. )
Finally, Ukrainians are facing the threat of such Russian long-range surface-to-air missile systems like S-400 (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘SA-21 Growler’): word is that one is deployed only about 100km north of Kyiv, just few kilometres inside Belarus. Like Ukrainian S-300s are keeping Russian reconnaissance aircraft at bay, the presence of Russian S-400s is forcing the UkAF to fly low (so to avoid early detection by the Russian radars – including those of A-50s), where its jets are vulnerable even to small-arms fire.
Sometimes, this is not possible: its jets have to ‘jink’ upwards, to target higher-flying Russians. That in turn exposed them to S-400s, and word is that two or three have been shot down by S-400s: one, reportedly, from no less than 125km range.
That’s the ‘essence’ of this air war, and in this regards, I do not expect a lot to change, regardless how long it might go on.
Zelensky is as dirty as the day is long.Reviewing his life story reveals his lust for money and his willingness to do anything to achieve that wealth including murder.

Although he has degree in law he chose to earn more money in show business.He's a puppet of the NWO and has stolen billions of dollars from the people of Ukraine.He's not a hero but instead has lied to his citizens and has sent thousands to their death to cover the fact that he's a thief on a colossal scale.He'll do whatever is necessary to prevent his exposure as a tool of the not only the NWO but regional oligarchs as well.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rode to power on pledges to clean up the Eastern European country, but the Pandora Papers reveal he and his close circle were the beneficiaries of a network of offshore companies, including some that owned expensive London property.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his partners in comedy production owned a network of offshore companies related to their business based in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize.Zelensky’s current chief aide, Serhiy Shefir, as well as the head of the country’s Security Service, were part of the offshore network.Offshore companies were used by Shefir and another business partner to buy pricey London real estate.

Around the time of his 2019 election, Zelensky handed his shares in a key offshore company over to Shefir, but the two appear to have made an arrangement for Zelensky’s family to continue receiving money from the offshore.

Actor Volodymyr Zelensky stormed to the Ukrainian presidency in 2019 on a wave of public anger against the country’s political class, including previous leaders who used secret companies to stash their wealth overseas.

A comedian and actor who had been famous since the 2000s, Zelensky began his political rise a few years after taking on a starring role in the political satire “Servant of the People,” which began airing on the oligarch’s network in 2015. The show starred Zelensky as a humble history teacher whose anti-corruption rant in class is filmed by a student, goes viral online, and wins him national office.

In a case of life imitating art, Zelensky ended up winning the real-world Ukrainian presidency just three-and-a-half years after the show’s launch, with more than 73 percent of the vote.

Zelensky capitalized on widespread public anger at corruption, but his 2019 campaign was dogged by doubts over his anti-graft bona fides, given that his campaign was boosted by media belonging to Kolomoisky — who is accused of stealing US$5.5 billion from his own bank and funneling it offshore in concert with his partner, Hennadiy Boholiubov.

In the heat of the campaign, a political ally of incumbent President Petro Poroshenko published a chart on Facebook purporting to show that Zelensky and his television production partners were beneficiaries of a web of offshore firms that allegedly received $41 million in funds from Kolomoisky’s Privatbank.

That ally, Volodymyr Ariev, didn’t provide evidence, and his accusations have never been proven. But the Pandora Papers show that at least some of the details in this alleged scheme correspond to reality. The leaked documents show information on 10 companies in the network that match structures detailed in Ariev’s chart.
Offshore 95: President Zelensky’s Financial Secrets


The new documents show that part of the network was managed with help from Fidelity Corporate Services, an offshore consultancy that was one of 14 firms whose documents make up part of the Pandora Papers leak. The documents show that Zelensky and his partners used companies based in the British Virgin Islands (BVI), Belize, and Cyprus.

Two of Zelensky’s associates in the offshore network, who were also part of his TV production company, now hold powerful positions. Serhiy Shefir is Zelensky’s top presidential aide, while Ivan Bakanov heads the Security Service of Ukraine.

These powerful positions also come with risks. Shefir narrowly escaped an apparent assassination attempt when his car was fired on outside Kyiv on September 22. He was unharmed, but his driver was wounded.

Zelensky has repeatedly pledged to rein in oligarchs. The day after the attack on Shefir, the country’s parliament passed a bill that would create a register of oligarchs and bar them from financing political parties or taking part in privatizations. Zelensky said that the attempt on Shefir’s life will receive a strong response and will not influence his fight against vested interests.

A spokesman for Zelensky declined to comment. Shefir and Bakanov did not respond to questions.

Now, leaked documents prove that Zelensky and his inner circle have had their own network of offshore companies. Two belonging to the president’s partners were used to buy expensive property in London.

The revelations come from documents in the Pandora Papers, millions of files from 14 offshore service providers leaked to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and shared with partners around the world including OCCRP.

The documents show that Zelensky and his partners in a television production company, Kvartal 95, set up a network of offshore firms dating back to at least 2012, the year the company began making regular content for TV stations owned by Ihor Kolomoisky, an oligarch dogged by allegations of multi-billion-dollar fraud. The offshores were also used by Zelensky associates to purchase and own three prime properties in the center of London.

The documents also show that just before he was elected, he gifted his stake in a key offshore company, the British Virgin Islands-registered Maltex Multicapital Corp., to his business partner — soon to be his top presidential aide. And in spite of giving up his shares, the documents show that an arrangement was soon made that would allow the offshore to keep paying dividends to a company that now belongs to his wife.

Serhiy Shefir’s brother Borys, who is a part-owner of Maltex Multicapital Corp, said he may indeed be an owner, but was unaware of the details of the offshore arrangement, which was largely the work of Ukraine’s now-Security Service chief, Bakanov.

“Bakanov was our financial director, he set up the financial schemes of our company. Speaking honestly, I’m not ready to respond to you,” he said.

Borys Shefir said such offshore arrangements were necessary because of the threat to the company of “authorities and bandits.” Kvartal 95’s members were moving to divest themselves of offshores, but it was a slow and difficult process, he said.

It is unclear what most of the offshore network was used for, but a partial answer to the mystery can be found on London’s Baker Street, near the residence of another famous fictional character: Sherlock Holmes.

Pandora Papers documents show a network company was used to purchase an apartment in London just a short walk from the museum that now stands at 221b Baker Street, the address of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s legendary detective. The area is one of several pricey parts of London favored by foreign investors using anonymous shell companies.

That apartment, a three-bedroom flat on Glentworth Street, was bought for 1.58 million pounds ($2.28 million) in 2016 by a Belize company owned by Shefir, SHSN Limited. A two-bedroom flat nearby in Baker Street’s Chalfont Court building, which was bought by Shefir for 2.2 million pounds (US$3.5 million) in 2014, was also transferred to SHSN Limited in 2018.

The documents also show that another Kvartal 95 shareholder, Andrii Iakovlev, obtained a roughly 1.5-million-pound ($2.3 million) apartment in the Westminster Palace Gardens building, a short walk from the Houses of Parliament, in 2015 after his BVI company purchased another BVI company that owned the property.

When contacted by a reporter, Iakovlev said: “Young lady, I don’t speak with people I don’t know. Contact our lawyers.”

Iurii Azarov, a Ukrainian lawyer who has worked for Zelensky and his partners and whose name appears on some of the documents found in the Pandora Papers, also declined to comment.

There is no sign that Zelensky himself was a part of the London property deals. However, the documents show that he was a key player in other parts of the offshore network.

At the center of the web of foreign firms is Maltex Multicapital Corp, which has never before been linked to Zelensky.

By 2017, Maltex was divided equally between shell companies belonging to Zelensky, Iakovlev, and brothers Serhiy Shefir and Borys Shefir. Ivan Bakanov, another Kvartal 95 partner who now serves as Ukraine’s secret police chief, was the beneficiary of another company that acted as nominee and trustee for the four other men’s ownership of Maltex.

Zelensky, together with his wife, owned a quarter of Maltex through a Belize-registered firm called Film Heritage. But in 2019, in the heat of Zelensky’s election campaign, Film Heritage transferred its ownership of Maltex to another company owned by Serhiy Shefir, the soon-to-be presidential chief assistant. The transfer documents were prepared by Iurii Azarov.

The deal provided Zelensky with a measure of distance from the offshore network, while costing him nothing.

“The share certificate demonstrates that no money was paid by the receiving party. Therefore the ownership was merely transferred from one name to another,” said Martin Woods, a financial crime consultant who reviewed the documents for OCCRP.

Roughly six weeks later, the same lawyer, Azarov, signed another document that stipulated that Maltex would continue to pay dividends to Zelensky’s Film Heritage — even though it no longer owned any stake in the company. The document, a client profile of Maltex prepared for Fidelity, disclosed that the company’s five largest sources of revenue were Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Belize, and Cyprus.

The Pandora Papers documents do not contain details on the size of any dividend payments, or how many may have been made. Since 2019, Zelensky’s wife, Olena Zelenska, has been the sole beneficial owner of Film Heritage, according to the online registry of officials’ asset declarations, meaning any subsequent payments would have flowed to her.

Financial crime consultant Woods said the share transfer was possibly a “charade” aimed at hiding a stake in Maltex while still being able to make money off it. Zelensky has not mentioned Maltex in any of his public asset declarations, including one filed for 2018, when he still owned 25 percent of the company.

In such an arrangement, “the real owner has placed another person to act as his or her proxy to pretend to be the shareholder,” Woods said.

“The person making the transfer wants to retain the shares and the benefit of the shares, but doesn’t want other people to know that that is the situation.”

In response to questions sent by Pandora Papers reporters, Fidelity confirmed it was the registered agent for Maltex Multicapital Corp, but it said that Zelensky was not currently an owner or beneficiary of any company under its administration.

“The present Ukrainian president is not our client, nor does he have any ownership or any other position in any entity under our administration,” Fidelity said.

The company also argued that there would have been nothing wrong to have worked for Zelensky prior to his ascent to political office in 2019. “We don’t see any valid reason why such a private citizen should be precluded from venturing to conduct his business internationally, including through a BVI [British Virgin Islands] business Company, if so deemed fit.”

The company did not respond to follow-up questions about Zelensky’s other partners, as well as the transfer of his shareholding in Maltex Multicapital Corp to Shefir’s partners.
A Wider Web

The documents in the Pandora Papers also contain details that dovetail with broader allegations of offshore machinations leveled against Zelensky and his partners during the 2019 election.

During the campaign, the pro-Poroshenko member of parliament Ariev claimed that Zelensky and his partners were the beneficiaries of an offshore network of companies that received $41 million in payments that originated from Privatbank, the Ukrainian financial institution that the oligarch Kolomoisky is alleged to have looted.

Ariev’s allegations were detailed in a chart he publicized on Facebook showing a complex web of transactions between layers of companies based in offshore havens including the BVI, Cyprus, and Belize. The chart showed money flowing from the bank via a series of apparent shell entities to companies alleged to have been owned by Zelensky and associates.

Ariev has not provided documentation to back up his claims.

However, the Pandora Papers documents do provide the first corroboration for elements of his allegation: that 10 of the companies that allegedly received the money really did belong to Zelensky and his partners. Such information has not previously been publicly available.

The new documents do not, however, corroborate Ariev’s claims that the offshores received funds from Kolomoisky’s Privatbank. They provide only fragmentary information about how money moved through Zelensky and his partners’ offshore network. The financial flows that are visible from the documents appear to be connected to their television production business, of which Kolomoisky was a client.

The leaked documents show the offshore network was set up by individuals behind Kvartal 95 in 2012, the same year in which local media reported that Kvartal 95 entered into a production deal with Kolomoisky’s 1+1 Group.

The Pandora Papers show that SVT Films Ltd, a company that was as of May 2013 half-owned by the BVI holding company Maltex, was to be paid $1.2 million in licensing fees by January 2013 by an offshore company linked to Kolomoisky’s 1+1 network for the television program “Make a Comedian Laugh.”

In 2015, a company called Gimentiano Holdings Ltd, which was ultimately owned by Zelensky’s friend Andriy Iakovlev, also received $750,000 into its account at the Cyprus branch of Kolomoisky’s Privatbank. The money came from SVT Films Ltd. for “payment of interim dividends.”

OCCRP has previously reported that the Cyprus branch played a key role in Kolomoisky and his partner’s alleged multi-billion-dollar theft from the bank. Kolomoisky’s partner, Boholiubov, declined to respond to questions sent by reporters that were addressed to both men.

Even as Zelensky pushes his anti-oligarch campaign, some continue to doubt his sincerity. Among them is Ruslan Ryaboshapka, who was picked by Zelensky as the country’s top prosecutor in 2019, but ousted from the role in early 2020. He told OCCRP he believes this was due to pressure from the oligarch Kolomoisky.

“A president shouldn’t own offshore companies. In general offshore companies are bad, whether they’re owned by a president or not,” Ryaboshapka said.

He called moving money offshore “an old tradition” in Ukraine, because the country was perceived as a dangerous place with “no rule of law.” But still, the use of such companies today raises red flags of “tax evasion or the legalization of dirty money,” he said.

“That’s the essence of offshore companies.”


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You guys all think to much. The ones in power through out the world are gonna do whatever they want. We peons will do as we are told or pay the consequences. Live your life as best you can with what they allow. Hell Biden already threatened us with nuclear weapons if we get to independent. Have a good day. Edk
“I told the President if he didn’t Fire that Prosecutor we going to hold up all Aid to Ukraine “

“ You got 6 Hours before I Leave to go back to Washington.”

“ And By God He Did “


The Scripture according to The Black Yahweh..
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Rush Limbaugh used to make fun of the leftist media who loved Gorbachev by saying they were having a "gorbasm". I believe some of you are having a "putigasm" .

That right there should be your first clue.

The leftist media once embraced Russian leadership and prayed for the day when they could remake America in Russia's image.

But those same pundits today vilify Putin and demand war against Russia.

So, is the liberal press in America now pro Capitalist, anti Socialist?

Or has Putin moved Russian leadership so far to the Right, that American Leftists can no longer tolerate it?

Logic dictates it is not the former.
I'm still waiting on compelling evidence that Putin is "a good guy"

Not Q-tard crap about Ukraine or Biden, but what, exactly, is leading people to believe Putin has anything but his own interests and desires motivating him??????

And, no, pointing at who doesn't like Putin isn't evidence that he's there good guy. There's a LOT of "when [bleep] collide" in the world at the nation level.
Nobody said he was a Good Guy .. He’s a Tool against the NWO and it’s various Offshoots ..
This isn’t like voting for Class President..
Putin is a Disruptor ..
We don’t want to Swap Spit with Him in the Shower..
GeeUS ..
Look Deeper Polly Pure Bred ..
I am not saying Putin is a good guy.

I am saying evidence is strong that Putin is not in bed with the forces hard at work and well advanced in their efforts to destroy this once great nation.

In my mind that makes Putin better than many of America's own top officials.
As long as the $Billions keep flowing in, Zelinsky isn't going anywhere.
How bout compelling evidence that Zelensky is a good guy? Unless anyone can prove it Putin was never involved in kickback schemes with Biden or any other administration. Zelensky and Ukraine however were.
Everyone seems high behind because Putin did what he said he’d do if Zelensky tried to get into NATO. I personally don’t trust Jewish comedians any more than I do Russian leaders.
A lot more Ukrainian folks are going to die and many more suffer terribly if Zelinsky keeps fighting. They need to arrive at a peaceful solution now. Additionally, we need to figure out how to live peacefully with Russia on the other side of the Globe without totally ruining our country with sanction after sanction.
Originally Posted by rainshot
How bout compelling evidence that Zelensky is a good guy? Unless anyone can prove it Putin was never involved in kickback schemes with Biden or any other administration. Zelensky and Ukraine however were.
Everyone seems high behind because Putin did what he said he’d do if Zelensky tried to get into NATO. I personally don’t trust Jewish comedians any more than I do Russian leaders.


That whole logical fallacy of the false dichotomy thing again.

Zelinsky could be Satan. That has nothing to do with Russia being "good," and, frankly, seeing so many "Patriots" suck commie cock is rather hilarious.

Russia has been an azzhole for over 100 years. Putin is an extreme nationalist commie POS that wants the Warsaw pact band back together.

Good Russians are dead ones
Hahaha!

Yikes.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
It'll be a while... From a good source..

Here just a short review of most important events of the last 24 hours (17 Mar 22), before I continue with my analysis of the air war over Ukraine in the first three weeks of this conflict.
CAA - Combined Arms Army (Russia)
BTG - Battalion Tactical Group (Russia)
GMRD - Guards Motor Rifle Division (Russia)
GTA - Guards Tank Army (Russia)
GTD - Guards Tank Division (Russia)
IFV - infantry fighting vehicle
LOC - Line of Control (old frontline between Ukraine and Separatists in the Donbass region)
MANPAD – man-protable air defence system
MBT - main battle tank
MRB - Motorized Rifle Brigade
MRD - Motorized Rifle Division
PGM – precision guided munition
RFA – Russian Federation Army/Russian Armed Forces
RF-9xxxx - Russian military aviation registration
SAM – surface-to-air missile
UAF – Ukrainian armed Forces
UCAV – unmanned combat aerial vehicle
VDV - Vozdushno-desantnye voyska (Russian Airborne forces)
VKS - Vozdushno-kosmicheskiye sily (Air-Space Force, Russia)
West OSK – Western Military District, RFA
A note for the start: Ironically, I’ve announced I’ll slow down, yesterday – and the Ukrainian MOD promptly ceased providing details about developments on the battlefield. I understand this as, 'they have good reasons why'.
‘Is OK, don’t worry’: there are more than enough other sources to get info from, and then cross-check. Actually, I hardly used anything from the Ukrainian MOD so far - except for orientation purposes. Plus – except one is directly involved, or has friends and/or relatives there - there wasn’t that much going on on battlefields of Ukraine War, yesterday.
For example, in the Kyiv area there was only sporadic shelling and rocketing. Sure, tragically, this has caused additional civilian casualties. Similar is valid for Chernihiv and Kharkiv. Further south-east, it turned out the Ukrainians have recovered the southern side of Izium, two-three days ago: the 144th MRD has attempted to capture the same, yesterday, but was ambushed and lost a number of vehicles (yes, 'once again').
At least in theory, more important is a report along which the Ukrainians have hit the field HQ of the 35th CAA, north-west of Kyiv, yesterday. This remains unconfirmed as of right now, but if they have delivered such a blow, it might prompt another, days-long delay in further Russian offensive operations in this part of Ukraine.
In the Luhansk area, the Russians are claiming to have captured Rubizhne: actually, they did reach the northern outskirts, before running out of steam: too few troops to run a bigger assault. For similar reasons, also the attacks on Sieveierodonetsk and Popasna remained unsuccessful.
In Mariupol, there is bitter house-to-house fighting in the western centre of the city. The only thing I’m sure by now is that, in the East, the 150th MRD suffered heavy losses and was stopped while advancing along the M14 highway in between the Kalmiusky District in the North, and Livoberezhnyi District in the south. Two days ago, the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade and Separatists have run that attack from West in direction of the Freedom Square, but were cut to pieces: word is the Separatists have lost another of their commanders: I just couldn’t find out his name. Of course, the city is all the time plastered by air strikes and artillery.
If there are really ‘news’, then from the battlefields in the south, and then the western bank of Dnepr, in the Mykolaiv area. Before I go on in this regards, please mind: in cases of wars like this one, I'm regularly about 2-6 days ahead of the mainstream media (so much so, the following segment was originally written already two days ago). Thus, don't be surprised if you now get to hear something that wasn't reported anywhere else.
Namely, regardless what are all the possible maps published on the TV and the internet shown, since two days the 58th CAA is on full withdrawal back to Kherson. Realising the Russians have no troops to launch an amphibious landing on Odessa, the Ukrainians brought in their 28th Mechanised Brigade and, pushing south from Mykolaiv, liberated Posad-Pokrovske on the M14 highway (that’s only some 40km outside Kherson).
About 200km further north, the Ukrainians have liberated Mala Shestirnya (also on the western bank of Dnepr, but south of Kryvyi Rih), too. Think, whoever is in command of the 58th CAA, might now want to pull back all of his troops and concentrate on defending Kherson - which is going to be a big trouble alone because of constant unrest and protests by the population inside (which are going on for two weeks, meanwhile).
BTW, Ukrainian Su-24s and Su-25s flew at least eight combat sorties in support of the counter-offensive of their ground forces along the M14, yesterday.
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Which is bringing me to the...
Air War over Ukraine, Part 3
Before I go on into specific other details: chat with a Syrian contact, yesterday evening, reminded me of an important experience with Russians in the war there, back from 2015-2018.
Actually, it’s an extremely bad idea to mark buildings with Red Crosses and words like ‘Children’ when fighting a war with them.
In Syria of September 2015, the insurgents have – via the White Helmets and the UN – informed the Russian HQ at Hmeymim AB about every single of hospitals in areas held by them. They have provided precise coordinates, expecting the VKS to avoid these.
The Russians bombed every single of hospitals in question, and then launched a smear campaign against the White Helmets, declaring them for ‘jihadists’.
When the insurgents began hiding their hospitals, the Russians somehow got coordinates for these (probably bribed somebody at the UN), and bombed them too. Without exception.
…and, hand on heart, pilots are so busy flying their jets at 900km/h (+) without colliding with the ground, they’ve got no time to ‘read’ what’s written on or around some building: they have got their coordinates from superior commanders, are following orders and are bombing these.
Thus, my recommendation for Ukrainians: do not clearly mark your hospitals, ambulances, kindergartens or public shelters. HIDE THEM.
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Having cleared that, now let’s see what is the Ukrainian Air Force Doing the last three weeks.
The Ukrainian Air Force has no such ‘force multipliers’ like A-50s, and even if: due to their size and slow speed, these would be ‘targets No.1’ for the VKS and thus far too vulnerable to operate. Indeed, even Ukrainian ground-based radars are only capable of operating for limited periods of time (say: 60-120 seconds at time): then they have to turn off in order to conceal their position.
Why that?
Early warning/surveillance radars are powerful systems, emitting huge amounts of electromagnetic energy. Their work is thus easily detected by modern-day sensors - as used by all armed forces for so-called ELINT-purposes (stands for 'Electronic Intelligence'). Unsurprisingly, the effect of powering up one of them on a modern battlefield can best be compared with turning on a hand-held lamp on a darkened football stadium by night: the holder of the lamp can only see what the lamp enlightens, but everybody – even in the rearmost corner of that stadium – can see the position of the lamp-holder. At least as long as the lamp is on…
Thus, better to turn the lamp on for only very short periods of time, and always change position immediately after. This comes at the price of the Ukrainians having a very poor ‘radar picture’ of their airspace, and – probably – depending on reports about visual observations instead. The latter is a well-proven, ages-old practice, but lately severely curtailed by massive, low clouds hanging over Ukraine. In turn, clouds are something neither Ukrainian nor Russian pilots like to fly through: the mass of both is only poorly trained in operations in adverse weather.
In regards of flight operations… As reported already several times, late in the evening of 23 February, the Ukrainian Air Force has quickly evacuated all of air bases in northern and eastern parts of the country. Around 22.00hrs that evening, one could track that evacuation even on the FlightRadar24.com, because numerous of involved transports and helicopters had their transponders activated.
Ever since, combat aircraft and helicopters are well-dispersed and -concealed, while many of transports were flown out of the country. This is why the Ukrainian fleet of aircraft and helicopters survived the first two days of the Russian onslaught in a relatively ‘intact’ condition.
Meanwhile, UkAF’s primary problems are communication and maintenance. Yes, types like MiG-29, Su-25 and Su-27 are made for ‘rough field’ operations, and can operate from grass strips, if necessary. But, maintaining them under such conditions is anything than easy: maintenance requires cleanliness and tools, and maintaining these two factors, literally ‘in the field’, is not easy. Their next problem is fuel: the Russians are continuously targeting fuel depots of major Ukrainian air bases with their ballistic missiles.
If the fuel is destroyed, it’s not available. Even if it is ‘just’ contaminated, its use can necessitate a complete engine removal.
That’s no ‘fun’ under field conditions…
…and then the air-to-air missiles – especially the medium-ranged R-27 (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘AA-10 Alamo’) - are renowned for ‘not liking’ being roughly handled: due to resulting vibrations, any take-off or landing on a grass runway is near-certain to ruin all the rounds carried by the jet. Under the given conditions, at the time the UkAF is surely going to experience massive problems while trying to maintain and/or repair its stocks of air-to-air missiles, this means, ‘once and forever’.
Now comes that with communications: because it usually takes long for the HQ to figure out where are potential targets and what aircraft are available where, the UkAF is operating only against targets it can be sure are going to remain within a specific zone for long enough. Then the Su-24s, or, and more often, Su-25s are directed into strikes on RFA’s ground units. Mind: they operate with a bare minimum of intelligence about the strength and disposition of the Russian air defence. Unsurprisingly, and as should be meanwhile clear, involved crews are exposing themselves to the full power of the Russian arsenal and most of their sorties are either intercepted by VKS’ Su-27s, Su-30s, and Su-35s, or by ground-based air defences. Consequence are very heavy losses.
MiG-29s and Su-27s are used for interception only, and only if there is a ‘good opportunity’, and then armed with R-27s. Why that? The Russians are not even trying to engage them in dogfights, but firing their own R-27s and – slightly shorter-ranged, but active-radar-homing R-77s (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘AA-12 Adder’) - from near-maximum range. Why taking risk to get shot down by one of nearly ineffective Ukrainian interceptors, if one can smack them from stand-off range….? Correspondingly, Ukrainians need ‘speed’ and ‘range’, not ‘manoeuvrability’.
One thing the UkAF MiG-29- and Su-27-pilots tried earlier during the war was to target the VKS aircraft with R-27ETs. Mind that for combat jets, activating radar is similar like that with early warning/surveillance radars, i.e. hand-held lamp on a darkened stadium by night. Thus, pilots are usually trying to approach their opponent without turning their radars on. The R-27ET is the infr-ared homing variant of this missile system, which means that – contrary to the R-27ER semi-active radar-homing variant – it requires no radar to be activated: it can be aimed and fired with help of the MiG-29’s and Su-27’s electro-optical targeting system.
Problem: R-27ET’s seeker head is dated (from the early 1980s) and has a relatively short acquisition range. Several UkAF MiGs and Sukhois have been shot down by Russian interceptors while trying to cut the range and deploy their R-27ETs.
(In this regards, the Ukrainians are now going through almost the same experience like Indian Su-30MKI-crews when trying to combat Pakistani F-16s and JF-17s during clashes back in February 2019: the sole difference is that – thanks to far better (and more intensive) tactical training, and superior situational awareness, and regardless of all the Pakistani- (and some US-) science fiction – the Indians lost none of their Su-30MKIs: by now it’s certain that the Ukrainians lost at least four of their MiG-29- and Su-27-pilots killed. )
Finally, Ukrainians are facing the threat of such Russian long-range surface-to-air missile systems like S-400 (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘SA-21 Growler’): word is that one is deployed only about 100km north of Kyiv, just few kilometres inside Belarus. Like Ukrainian S-300s are keeping Russian reconnaissance aircraft at bay, the presence of Russian S-400s is forcing the UkAF to fly low (so to avoid early detection by the Russian radars – including those of A-50s), where its jets are vulnerable even to small-arms fire.
Sometimes, this is not possible: its jets have to ‘jink’ upwards, to target higher-flying Russians. That in turn exposed them to S-400s, and word is that two or three have been shot down by S-400s: one, reportedly, from no less than 125km range.
That’s the ‘essence’ of this air war, and in this regards, I do not expect a lot to change, regardless how long it might go on.

Finally,
Someone with a clue posting something written by someone with a clue.
I mean hell...the narrative is that Putin wants to get the ole Gang back together.

Which is really bad for business by the way....


So...NATO has been expanding east to keep Russia from expanding west?

In places like Georgia? Maybe we should offer Nato membership to Kazakhstan?


Why didn't he stay in Georgia after he beat them?
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Teal
Patriots are in control in the same way that Putin and Russia could cut through Europe in a week and the US would lose a "peer to peer" battle with them handily.

There's a famous saying in sports "potential gets coaches fired" - that is players with "potential" that never live up to it tend to get their coach fired for not achieving it ever. Q is exactly that. Rife with "could" "maybe" and "perhaps" - completely devoid of "did" "is" and "happened".


Too bad you cant connect the dots. Did you also believe the MSM when they said Biden won fair and square? How about all the other schiett they lie about?

Zero, Hillary, Piglosi, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, Fauki, Soros, WHO, CDC, FDA, Pfizer, Moderna, the vaxes, all good?

Trump, Que, Putin, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin all bad?

Hide and watch. As Que said, the Cabal stepped in the trap and they will have pain. None of the big ones will escape what is coming. They wont be able to walk the streets. Durham is coming after them. Trump will be back. The people will turn against the left and become the stone. The MSM, Facebook and Twitter will be destroyed or become public utilities, the FBY and CYA destroyed. CYA job will be given to NSA. Putin and Xi will become our allies.

Give us some more MSM talking points concerning Q. Too bad you took up their mantra without doing due diligence.
If you had just listened to Trump at his rallies you would have heard his stories about DC and 17.

Count the flags dumbass and try to get a clue.

13 for the original colonies and add 4 for Trump.

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Of course Teazone already knew all these things. You also knew and told us what the 2018 Senate race R vs D count would turn out 2 mo before the election even though 2 races were contested by the Ds for weeks. You told us as Q did not to worry as it didnt matter if we lost the House because all we needed for Trump and the Patriots plan to work was to keep control of the Senate. You knew that all along didnt you, Teazone.

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Tell us how you knew all this schiett all along too, Teazone.

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None are so stupid as those who reject things out of hand without investigating.


Jag - seriously, get some help. I disagree with your blind worship of a false god and you try and go nuclear.

I don't believe Biden won, I don't believe the MSM (and I was on that path LONG before you were or Q was on the radar- like say 20 YEARS ago when I started working as an intelligence analyst and everyone here was orgasming over Fox News), I don't believe any of those dems are good or that the Covid alternatives are bad. Find a post here of mine where I say that. Please. Just one. If you do - I'll leave the campfire forever. Scout's honor.

The only dumbass are the ones ascribing all of this to some shadow figure who keeps moving the goal posts and promising "heaven" just over the hill. A "heaven" that isn't coming.

As far as "getting a clue" - I spent years working with experts and BEING the expert for the policy makers and tactical commanders on several subjects. I've shared my knowledge here of such matters - such as Russian officers being MUCH farther down the chain than ours and thus - 4 dead in a short war is not only possible but likely. I've lived with, worked with learned a ton from people who are DOING not just cutting and pasting when it comes to OB, BDA and OSINT analysis.

Much more credibility than someone posting the drivel we've been spammed with for the last 2+ years. I HAVE investigated with a jaundiced eye. I don't make vauge hints fit events - I need to see events fit direct statements. You post 3 and 4 year old open source information with "something is coming" - no sheit. Something will happen if you wait long enough and yet ZERO and I mean ZERO definitive definition of "something" 4 years ago so "anything" fits for those so desperate to believe.


Come on Teal,
Doncha know that's anyone who's ever served in an intelligence capacity facing the Russians/Former Soviet Union is just some "Neo-con" puppet of the new world order?
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by rainshot
How bout compelling evidence that Zelensky is a good guy? Unless anyone can prove it Putin was never involved in kickback schemes with Biden or any other administration. Zelensky and Ukraine however were.
Everyone seems high behind because Putin did what he said he’d do if Zelensky tried to get into NATO. I personally don’t trust Jewish comedians any more than I do Russian leaders.


That whole logical fallacy of the false dichotomy thing again.

Zelinsky could be Satan. That has nothing to do with Russia being "good," and, frankly, seeing so many "Patriots" suck commie cock is rather hilarious.

Russia has been an azzhole for over 100 years. Putin is an extreme nationalist commie POS that wants the Warsaw pact band back together.

Good Russians are dead ones

I sure am glad the nuclear football is not in your hands.

I am reminded of the old man who threatened to drag me out of my new Toyota and beat my ass...........forty years after WW II was well over.
Originally Posted by GAGoober
A lot more Ukrainian folks are going to die and many more suffer terribly if Zelinsky keeps fighting. They need to arrive at a peaceful solution now. Additionally, we need to figure out how to live peacefully with Russia on the other side of the Globe without totally ruining our country with sanction after sanction.



So, Ukraine should just quit fighting and give Russia the keys to the country?

Thank God England did not quit fighting when it appeared that Germany was on the verge of whipping their butts.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by rainshot
How bout compelling evidence that Zelensky is a good guy? Unless anyone can prove it Putin was never involved in kickback schemes with Biden or any other administration. Zelensky and Ukraine however were.
Everyone seems high behind because Putin did what he said he’d do if Zelensky tried to get into NATO. I personally don’t trust Jewish comedians any more than I do Russian leaders.


That whole logical fallacy of the false dichotomy thing again.

Zelinsky could be Satan. That has nothing to do with Russia being "good," and, frankly, seeing so many "Patriots" suck commie cock is rather hilarious.

Russia has been an azzhole for over 100 years. Putin is an extreme nationalist commie POS that wants the Warsaw pact band back together.

Good Russians are dead ones



Right Now he’s Doing the World a Favor Net Minder..
I know it’s a Mystery to you..
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Rush Limbaugh used to make fun of the leftist media who loved Gorbachev by saying they were having a "gorbasm". I believe some of you are having a "putigasm" .

That right there should be your first clue.

The leftist media once embraced Russian leadership and prayed for the day when they could remake America in Russia's image.

But those same pundits today vilify Putin and demand war against Russia.

So, is the liberal press in America now pro Capitalist, anti Socialist?

Or has Putin moved Russian leadership so far to the Right, that American Leftists can no longer tolerate it?

Logic dictates it is not the former.



Psssssttttttttttt...............it's not the left that's having a "putigasm", it's some Campfire members who claim to the on the right.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Teal
Patriots are in control in the same way that Putin and Russia could cut through Europe in a week and the US would lose a "peer to peer" battle with them handily.

There's a famous saying in sports "potential gets coaches fired" - that is players with "potential" that never live up to it tend to get their coach fired for not achieving it ever. Q is exactly that. Rife with "could" "maybe" and "perhaps" - completely devoid of "did" "is" and "happened".


Too bad you cant connect the dots. Did you also believe the MSM when they said Biden won fair and square? How about all the other schiett they lie about?

Zero, Hillary, Piglosi, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, Fauki, Soros, WHO, CDC, FDA, Pfizer, Moderna, the vaxes, all good?

Trump, Que, Putin, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin all bad?

Hide and watch. As Que said, the Cabal stepped in the trap and they will have pain. None of the big ones will escape what is coming. They wont be able to walk the streets. Durham is coming after them. Trump will be back. The people will turn against the left and become the stone. The MSM, Facebook and Twitter will be destroyed or become public utilities, the FBY and CYA destroyed. CYA job will be given to NSA. Putin and Xi will become our allies.

Give us some more MSM talking points concerning Q. Too bad you took up their mantra without doing due diligence.
If you had just listened to Trump at his rallies you would have heard his stories about DC and 17.

Count the flags dumbass and try to get a clue.

13 for the original colonies and add 4 for Trump.

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Of course Teazone already knew all these things. You also knew and told us what the 2018 Senate race R vs D count would turn out 2 mo before the election even though 2 races were contested by the Ds for weeks. You told us as Q did not to worry as it didnt matter if we lost the House because all we needed for Trump and the Patriots plan to work was to keep control of the Senate. You knew that all along didnt you, Teazone.

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Tell us how you knew all this schiett all along too, Teazone.

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None are so stupid as those who reject things out of hand without investigating.


Jag - seriously, get some help. I disagree with your blind worship of a false god and you try and go nuclear.

I don't believe Biden won, I don't believe the MSM (and I was on that path LONG before you were or Q was on the radar- like say 20 YEARS ago when I started working as an intelligence analyst and everyone here was orgasming over Fox News), I don't believe any of those dems are good or that the Covid alternatives are bad. Find a post here of mine where I say that. Please. Just one. If you do - I'll leave the campfire forever. Scout's honor.

The only dumbass are the ones ascribing all of this to some shadow figure who keeps moving the goal posts and promising "heaven" just over the hill. A "heaven" that isn't coming.

As far as "getting a clue" - I spent years working with experts and BEING the expert for the policy makers and tactical commanders on several subjects. I've shared my knowledge here of such matters - such as Russian officers being MUCH farther down the chain than ours and thus - 4 dead in a short war is not only possible but likely. I've lived with, worked with learned a ton from people who are DOING not just cutting and pasting when it comes to OB, BDA and OSINT analysis.

Much more credibility than someone posting the drivel we've been spammed with for the last 2+ years. I HAVE investigated with a jaundiced eye. I don't make vauge hints fit events - I need to see events fit direct statements. You post 3 and 4 year old open source information with "something is coming" - no sheit. Something will happen if you wait long enough and yet ZERO and I mean ZERO definitive definition of "something" 4 years ago so "anything" fits for those so desperate to believe.


Come on Teal,
Doncha know that's anyone who's ever served in an intelligence capacity facing the Russians/Former Soviet Union is just some "Neo-con" puppet of the new world order?



I quit trusting the MSM when I saw something happen and then read about it in the newspaper a few days later. And that was about 60 years ago. And it's nice to think that newspapers will be resaerched for many years as to what the "true facts" were back in the past.
Mitch I know it’s You…
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Rush Limbaugh used to make fun of the leftist media who loved Gorbachev by saying they were having a "gorbasm". I believe some of you are having a "putigasm" .

That right there should be your first clue.

The leftist media once embraced Russian leadership and prayed for the day when they could remake America in Russia's image.

But those same pundits today vilify Putin and demand war against Russia.

So, is the liberal press in America now pro Capitalist, anti Socialist?

Or has Putin moved Russian leadership so far to the Right, that American Leftists can no longer tolerate it?

Logic dictates it is not the former.



Psssssttttttttttt...............it's not the left that's having a "putigasm", it's some Campfire members who claim to the on the right.

Reading comprehension is a thing!

Why does the Left no longer love Russian leadership?

Perhaps, that Russian leadership simply is no longer Left enough for their taste??????
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Rush Limbaugh used to make fun of the leftist media who loved Gorbachev by saying they were having a "gorbasm". I believe some of you are having a "putigasm" .

That right there should be your first clue.

The leftist media once embraced Russian leadership and prayed for the day when they could remake America in Russia's image.

But those same pundits today vilify Putin and demand war against Russia.

So, is the liberal press in America now pro Capitalist, anti Socialist?

Or has Putin moved Russian leadership so far to the Right, that American Leftists can no longer tolerate it?

Logic dictates it is not the former.



Psssssttttttttttt...............it's not the left that's having a "putigasm", it's some Campfire members who claim to the on the right.

Reading comprehension is a thing!

Why does the Left no longer love Russian leadership?

Perhaps, that Russian leadership simply is no longer Left enough for their taste??????


Russian leadership today should leave a bad taste in the mouth for any American, right or left. Putin hides behind this mask of a man who just loves his country and wants to do what is best for it. all the while acting just like the former KGB thug he was, and still is.
Originally Posted by Northman
Russia will tap out in two-three weeks...
Lost 15% of manpower, 1500 documented pieces of equipment in three weeks!
Real number is much higher!!
Corruption and Yes men has drained the Russian economy and military for decades now.. and here is the result.
Tens of thousands of 19 year old conscripts, sent into war, with 2 months of training and barely any food.
Their "secure coms" are cheap Chinese Radios bought on eBay.

Against a NATO trained army, with modern equipment, willing to give their lives to become a European country and not some slave state of a "New Russian Empire" dream..



Putin made the blunder of the century... and has crashed the Russian economy.
Rubble is down 70-80%, Stockmarket at 0%, any life savings regular Russians had is GONE, hyperinflation and food shortages are about to begin.
Stolen 700 Airbus and Boing planes, with no source of spare parts, which means they will never be used anywhere else again...
western companies is leaving and writing of their losses... and/or Russia is nationalizing companies that are left...
Which means Russia will not see Western investors for decades.


Zelenskyy is and will always be remembered as the Savior of Ukraine and Europe!

While Putin will go down in History as the man who made Russia into a [bleep] country.




Russia has two choices in the next few weeks...
Putin stays: Closed of from the West and becomes Chinas bitch and will be bleed dry of its resources. China will not even use Lube while doing it... thats how bad Putin fcked up!

Putin goes : Denuclearize, beg profusely on their knees for forgiveness, become a Real Democracy, and in a decade or two their economy will start to improve.

.


😆
I can't tell if Walt's just a retard or a troll.

Retarded Troll most likely.
Originally Posted by g5m
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Teal
Patriots are in control in the same way that Putin and Russia could cut through Europe in a week and the US would lose a "peer to peer" battle with them handily.

There's a famous saying in sports "potential gets coaches fired" - that is players with "potential" that never live up to it tend to get their coach fired for not achieving it ever. Q is exactly that. Rife with "could" "maybe" and "perhaps" - completely devoid of "did" "is" and "happened".


Too bad you cant connect the dots. Did you also believe the MSM when they said Biden won fair and square? How about all the other schiett they lie about?

Zero, Hillary, Piglosi, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, Fauki, Soros, WHO, CDC, FDA, Pfizer, Moderna, the vaxes, all good?

Trump, Que, Putin, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin all bad?

Hide and watch. As Que said, the Cabal stepped in the trap and they will have pain. None of the big ones will escape what is coming. They wont be able to walk the streets. Durham is coming after them. Trump will be back. The people will turn against the left and become the stone. The MSM, Facebook and Twitter will be destroyed or become public utilities, the FBY and CYA destroyed. CYA job will be given to NSA. Putin and Xi will become our allies.

Give us some more MSM talking points concerning Q. Too bad you took up their mantra without doing due diligence.
If you had just listened to Trump at his rallies you would have heard his stories about DC and 17.

Count the flags dumbass and try to get a clue.

13 for the original colonies and add 4 for Trump.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Of course Teazone already knew all these things. You also knew and told us what the 2018 Senate race R vs D count would turn out 2 mo before the election even though 2 races were contested by the Ds for weeks. You told us as Q did not to worry as it didnt matter if we lost the House because all we needed for Trump and the Patriots plan to work was to keep control of the Senate. You knew that all along didnt you, Teazone.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Tell us how you knew all this schiett all along too, Teazone.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

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[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

None are so stupid as those who reject things out of hand without investigating.


Jag - seriously, get some help. I disagree with your blind worship of a false god and you try and go nuclear.

I don't believe Biden won, I don't believe the MSM (and I was on that path LONG before you were or Q was on the radar- like say 20 YEARS ago when I started working as an intelligence analyst and everyone here was orgasming over Fox News), I don't believe any of those dems are good or that the Covid alternatives are bad. Find a post here of mine where I say that. Please. Just one. If you do - I'll leave the campfire forever. Scout's honor.

The only dumbass are the ones ascribing all of this to some shadow figure who keeps moving the goal posts and promising "heaven" just over the hill. A "heaven" that isn't coming.

As far as "getting a clue" - I spent years working with experts and BEING the expert for the policy makers and tactical commanders on several subjects. I've shared my knowledge here of such matters - such as Russian officers being MUCH farther down the chain than ours and thus - 4 dead in a short war is not only possible but likely. I've lived with, worked with learned a ton from people who are DOING not just cutting and pasting when it comes to OB, BDA and OSINT analysis.

Much more credibility than someone posting the drivel we've been spammed with for the last 2+ years. I HAVE investigated with a jaundiced eye. I don't make vauge hints fit events - I need to see events fit direct statements. You post 3 and 4 year old open source information with "something is coming" - no sheit. Something will happen if you wait long enough and yet ZERO and I mean ZERO definitive definition of "something" 4 years ago so "anything" fits for those so desperate to believe.


Come on Teal,
Doncha know that's anyone who's ever served in an intelligence capacity facing the Russians/Former Soviet Union is just some "Neo-con" puppet of the new world order?



I quit trusting the MSM when I saw something happen and then read about it in the newspaper a few days later. And that was about 60 years ago. And it's nice to think that newspapers will be resaerched for many years as to what the "true facts" were back in the past.


I know what you mean. Sometimes the stuff we wrote would appear in the MSM....word for word. Other times, it wouldn't even remotely resemble the initial reports.
I just heard on Fox radio Sirius that the Prince of Peace wants to use armaments for his special military operations



Wait 4 it



Made in China

Laffin
Putin is an evil bastard, no doubt, but Zelensky is no choir boy either. He has plundered and stolen , and has secret accounts of money he could have used to strengthen his own country. Instead he gave tens of millions to crooks like the Biden Crime Family around the globe. He and his cronies knew what Putin was capable of and had years to prepare. I feel sorry for the everyday citizens caught up in this mess. We should help them with materials and humanitarian aid, but I don't want any American Military going to war for Ukraine, especially with the clowns we have in charge right now. They can't handle a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan, and caused a disaster there, how bad could it get against a Western army? If Mitt Romney and his ilk says that makes me a traitor, he can take a flying frig at a rolling doughnut. I don't see him and the DC minions volunteering to go there and fight.
Originally Posted by goalie
I'm still in awe that this place is full of commie lovers.

Fuuck Russia and Putin.

Unfortunately, three idiots wanting him assassinated have forgotten how well that worked in Iraq.

Vacuums suck too, and are unstable.

But, hey, Biden tried to get Ukraine's government to run, so staying and fighting Russians must be good, right?


I share the Awe & deep disappointment at the level of commie, Putin admirers found in this thread & others recently. GRR
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by rainshot
How bout compelling evidence that Zelensky is a good guy? Unless anyone can prove it Putin was never involved in kickback schemes with Biden or any other administration. Zelensky and Ukraine however were.
Everyone seems high behind because Putin did what he said he’d do if Zelensky tried to get into NATO. I personally don’t trust Jewish comedians any more than I do Russian leaders.


That whole logical fallacy of the false dichotomy thing again.

Zelinsky could be Satan. That has nothing to do with Russia being "good," and, frankly, seeing so many "Patriots" suck commie cock is rather hilarious.

Russia has been an azzhole for over 100 years. Putin is an extreme nationalist commie POS that wants the Warsaw pact band back together.

Good Russians are dead ones

I sure am glad the nuclear football is not in your hands.

I am reminded of the old man who threatened to drag me out of my new Toyota and beat my ass...........forty years after WW II was well over.


Um, I'm pretty sure I have not said anything about wanting us involved past giving them weapons and letting them fight.

Europe's circus, Europe's monkeys.

I'm super content to do to them what they did to us in Vietnam. Well, not quite. Keep our pilots and planes out of it. But missiles, oh, yeah, give em out like candy
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.

Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine think somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



So you disregard all of the last 30 years of our influence and manipulation in the region.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine think somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



So you disregard all of the last 30 years of our influence and manipulation in the region.


I've had 40+ years of influence in my parents' marriage. If dad picks a fight with mom - it's not necessarily because of me.

Is Ukraine because of the US? Maybe - I don't think anyone will ever know 100%
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine think somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



So you disregard all of the last 30 years of our influence and manipulation in the region.


Um, I'm not the one throwing out Putin's own words describing how Ukraine shouldn't exist as a nation.

I'm not the one acting like the guy shutting his country off from the worldwide web is awesome.

I'm not the one willing to disregard the last 110 years of Russian behavior.

Putin was going to try and take "back" Ukraine whether corrupt US politicians used it to launder money or not.

Or, this is more 4D Q-tard chess like how Trump lost to save humanity and I just don't trust the plan.

Occam's razor is apparently for the unenlightened idiots
Originally Posted by reivertom
Putin is an evil bastard, no doubt, but Zelensky is no choir boy either. He has plundered and stolen , and has secret accounts of money he could have used to strengthen his own country. Instead he gave tens of millions to crooks like the Biden Crime Family around the globe. He and his cronies knew what Putin was capable of and had years to prepare. I feel sorry for the everyday citizens caught up in this mess. We should help them with materials and humanitarian aid, but I don't want any American Military going to war for Ukraine, especially with the clowns we have in charge right now. They can't handle a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan, and caused a disaster there, how bad could it get against a Western army? If Mitt Romney and his ilk says that makes me a traitor, he can take a flying frig at a rolling doughnut. I don't see him and the DC minions volunteering to go there and fight.


Has anyone on the entire 24hr CF advocated for sending troops to Ukraine?

That's a real question and you don't have to shout the answer in all bold.

Just sayin.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by reivertom
Putin is an evil bastard, no doubt, but Zelensky is no choir boy either. He has plundered and stolen , and has secret accounts of money he could have used to strengthen his own country. Instead he gave tens of millions to crooks like the Biden Crime Family around the globe. He and his cronies knew what Putin was capable of and had years to prepare. I feel sorry for the everyday citizens caught up in this mess. We should help them with materials and humanitarian aid, but I don't want any American Military going to war for Ukraine, especially with the clowns we have in charge right now. They can't handle a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan, and caused a disaster there, how bad could it get against a Western army? If Mitt Romney and his ilk says that makes me a traitor, he can take a flying frig at a rolling doughnut. I don't see him and the DC minions volunteering to go there and fight.


Has anyone on the entire 24hr CF advocated for sending troops to Ukraine?

That's a real question and you don't have to shout the answer in all bold.

Just sayin.



No, but there are a few that are sighing in relief that I don't have the nuclear football.....

......despite my opinion we should do nothing more than give out weapons and let them bleed each other.
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



Do you think that the revelation of the existence of US funded bioweapons labs on the Ukraine-Russian border would make it at least somewhat more about the US? I'm not saying I know that these labs ARE developing bioweapons, but Nuland confirmed "biolabs" that are US funded. Would it be reasonable to expect the Russians to just let bioweapons labs slide?

I know for certain that our media carries the water for the globalists and have lied to us repeatedly. We ALL know that. To blindly accept their reporting is just foolish. We all know that, too.

I'm not for backing Putin OR Zelinskyy, at least not until the truth is known for certain. I'm not for engaging the Russians militarily, either if it can be avoided and especially under the joke of leadership we suffer at the moment.
I think Joe is trying to redeem himself after Afghanistan and that is why he is supporting the Ukrainians. For now. I'm glad he is staying away from a no fly zone but I he will never out live the stain of Afghanistan and that is what Putin is banking on. When Joe believes he has done his best, he will stop supporting Zelensky like the snap of a finger. I'm pretty sure he wants Zelensky dead so he will never leak out just how much "the big guy" got.

My prediction is when the Russians are at Zelensky's door step, Joe will pull out all the support and it will spell the doom for Zelinsky and his team
. That is really what he wants to see happen. Loose Ukrainian lips sink presidents. Especially crooked democRAT presidents.

kwg
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Has anyone on the entire 24hr CF advocated for sending troops to Ukraine?

That's a real question and you don't have to shout the answer in all bold.

Just sayin.
No, but there are a few that are sighing in relief that I don't have the nuclear football.....

......despite my opinion we should do nothing more than give out weapons and let them bleed each other.


I don't think I have ever seen so many Strawmen being built. wink
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine think somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



So you disregard all of the last 30 years of our influence and manipulation in the region.


Um, I'm not the one throwing out Putin's own words describing how Ukraine shouldn't exist as a nation.

I'm not the one acting like the guy shutting his country off from the worldwide web is awesome.

I'm not the one willing to disregard the last 110 years of Russian behavior.

Putin was going to try and take "back" Ukraine whether corrupt US politicians used it to launder money or not.

Or, this is more 4D Q-tard chess like how Trump lost to save humanity and I just don't trust the plan.

Occam's razor is apparently for the unenlightened idiots





If you believe all of that then why did he leave Georgia after he beat them?
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



Do you think that the revelation of the existence of US funded bioweapons labs on the Ukraine-Russian border would make it at least somewhat more about the US? I'm not saying I know that these labs ARE developing bioweapons, but Nuland confirmed "biolabs" that are US funded. Would it be reasonable to expect the Russians to just let bioweapons labs slide?

I know for certain that our media carries the water for the globalists and have lied to us repeatedly. We ALL know that. To blindly accept their reporting is just foolish. We all know that, too.

I'm not for backing Putin OR Zelinskyy, at least not until the truth is known for certain. I'm not for engaging the Russians militarily, either if it can be avoided and especially under the joke of leadership we suffer at the moment.




Um, no. How many countries DON'T have similar labs, and why were they only mentioned after Russian version of "shock and awe" sucked.
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



Do you think that the revelation of the existence of US funded bioweapons labs on the Ukraine-Russian border would make it at least somewhat more about the US? I'm not saying I know that these labs ARE developing bioweapons, but Nuland confirmed "biolabs" that are US funded. Would it be reasonable to expect the Russians to just let bioweapons labs slide?

I know for certain that our media carries the water for the globalists and have lied to us repeatedly. We ALL know that. To blindly accept their reporting is just foolish. We all know that, too.

I'm not for backing Putin OR Zelinskyy, at least not until the truth is known for certain. I'm not for engaging the Russians militarily, either if it can be avoided and especially under the joke of leadership we suffer at the moment.




One thing I do find curious about those labs.

They weren't built in a year - been there a while. Presumably over a couple of administrations I'd think.

So why now?

Is the biolab a reason or excuse?
To me the saying that “dead men tell no tales” certainly applies in Ukraine. Putin aside…Ukraine is as filthy corrupt as it gets. Sons of Biden, Romney, Pelosi, and Kerry are in it up to their eyeballs w parents also benefactors. I’d like an audit of both aisles of Congress to find out who isn’t tied to it. Heck yes let’s go to war. Scorched earth will hide it all…they think. Zelynski is a criminal as much as Biden.
Between MIC and warhawks, lots of we taxpayer’s money is going to wind up offshore, awaiting retirement of the good senators and congressmen. A great opportunity was missed at the SOTU speech a few nights back.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



Do you think that the revelation of the existence of US funded bioweapons labs on the Ukraine-Russian border would make it at least somewhat more about the US? I'm not saying I know that these labs ARE developing bioweapons, but Nuland confirmed "biolabs" that are US funded. Would it be reasonable to expect the Russians to just let bioweapons labs slide?

I know for certain that our media carries the water for the globalists and have lied to us repeatedly. We ALL know that. To blindly accept their reporting is just foolish. We all know that, too.

I'm not for backing Putin OR Zelinskyy, at least not until the truth is known for certain. I'm not for engaging the Russians militarily, either if it can be avoided and especially under the joke of leadership we suffer at the moment.




Um, no. How many countries DON'T have similar labs, and why were they only mentioned after Russian version of "shock and awe" sucked.



You tell me and we'll both know. If we can ever truly know, that is.
Seems that Russia doesn't want NATO to take over Ukraine.

Yes?
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine think somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



Tell that to our money grubbing elites.
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



Do you think that the revelation of the existence of US funded bioweapons labs on the Ukraine-Russian border would make it at least somewhat more about the US? I'm not saying I know that these labs ARE developing bioweapons, but Nuland confirmed "biolabs" that are US funded. Would it be reasonable to expect the Russians to just let bioweapons labs slide?

I know for certain that our media carries the water for the globalists and have lied to us repeatedly. We ALL know that. To blindly accept their reporting is just foolish. We all know that, too.

I'm not for backing Putin OR Zelinskyy, at least not until the truth is known for certain. I'm not for engaging the Russians militarily, either if it can be avoided and especially under the joke of leadership we suffer at the moment.




One thing I do find curious about those labs.

They weren't built in a year - been there a while. Presumably over a couple of administrations I'd think.

So why now?

Is the biolab a reason or excuse?


Good question. I think I saw some report asserting that they were funded and constructed under The Zero's watch but I have no idea how to dig that up. May have been scrubbed already for all I know.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine think somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



Tell that to our money grubbing elites.




It sorta has their finger prints all over it.

Since about 91.
Originally Posted by Teal


Is the biolab a reason or excuse?


Trust the plan. It's 4D chess, and if Trump taught us anything, it's that you've gotta lose in order to win. Or something.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Seems that Russia doesn't want NATO to take over Ukraine.

Yes?


Question: if they take over Ukraine, do they end up with more or less NATO countries directly bordering them?
When this settles out, Putin will have his clear trade corridor to the Black Sea and Zman will be sitting on Billions of US Dollars,

Many Russians and Ukrainians will be dead to that purpose.

Probably the plan all along.
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
So you disregard all of the last 30 years of our influence and manipulation in the region.


I've had 40+ years of influence in my parents' marriage. If dad picks a fight with mom - it's not necessarily because of me.

Is Ukraine because of the US? Maybe - I don't think anyone will ever know 100%


It's not like you were banging your Mom.
As long as our politicians chortle about no-fly zones and weapons support, air lifts and such Zelenski will hold fast in spite of the odds. Ret. Colonel Macgregor says it's over and I believe it. It is time to step up and agree to Putin's demand that they be neutral. put an end to the carnage. Biden and our idiots in congress are costing lives and prolonging the inevitable.
I am vehemently against using the armed forces to police the world.


How ever looks like “ special military operations “ = open bear 🐻 season.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Seems that Russia doesn't want NATO to take over Ukraine.

Yes?


Question: if they take over Ukraine, do they end up with more or less NATO countries directly bordering them?


Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Seems that Russia doesn't want NATO to take over Ukraine.

Yes?


Question: if they take over Ukraine, do they end up with more or less NATO countries directly bordering them?


Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?





Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.

Feel free to provide a compelling reason why I would think this is for some other reason.
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.



Do you think that the revelation of the existence of US funded bioweapons labs on the Ukraine-Russian border would make it at least somewhat more about the US? I'm not saying I know that these labs ARE developing bioweapons, but Nuland confirmed "biolabs" that are US funded. Would it be reasonable to expect the Russians to just let bioweapons labs slide?

I know for certain that our media carries the water for the globalists and have lied to us repeatedly. We ALL know that. To blindly accept their reporting is just foolish. We all know that, too.

I'm not for backing Putin OR Zelinskyy, at least not until the truth is known for certain. I'm not for engaging the Russians militarily, either if it can be avoided and especially under the joke of leadership we suffer at the moment.




One thing I do find curious about those labs.

They weren't built in a year - been there a while. Presumably over a couple of administrations I'd think.

So why now?

Is the biolab a reason or excuse?


Good question. I think I saw some report asserting that they were funded and constructed under The Zero's watch but I have no idea how to dig that up. May have been scrubbed already for all I know.



Funded by the DoD. Specifically, DTRA, the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Seems that Russia doesn't want NATO to take over Ukraine.

Yes?


Question: if they take over Ukraine, do they end up with more or less NATO countries directly bordering them?


Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?





Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.

Feel free to provide a compelling reason why I would think this is for some other reason.


From what I read, the whole "putin wants Ukraine to be Russia" was a fabrication mostly. Or at least out of context.

Where is the quote of him saying he means to turn Ukraine into Russia?


Why are we furiously trying to rebuild the Iron Curtain?
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.


Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.
I only heard he wasn’t invading and sending his troops back to base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRJ4umS7dJA
Originally Posted by Angus1895
I only heard he wasn’t invading and sending his troops back to base


You might be on a precipice of discovery that is the difference between a military operation and an invasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRJ4umS7dJA
All the muscle flexing and rhetoric by our politicians and lame stream media isn't for the Ukrainian people. They just claim they care about Ukrainian people for the optics.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.


Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.


Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.


Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.


Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.


Like when we invaded _____. Fill in the blank.

Clearly there is no other reason for a military action unless you intend to occupy and absorb the other country.
Originally Posted by jaguartx

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.


I disagree with just about everything I recall you stating in this forum, but I respect the fact that are willing to actually commit yourself to a date.

We will see in 4 days!
When the operations I was involved with


When orders were to go back to base


Most went back to base

But maybe special operations are different
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.
Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.
Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
Like when we invaded _____. Fill in the blank.

Clearly there is no other reason for a military action unless you intend to occupy and absorb the other country.


Nobody typed the word"absorb" That was your bias hearing words nobody typed.

We intended to Americanize Astan and Iraq, not "absorb".

That was a dumb idea also.
Originally Posted by szihn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRJ4umS7dJA


This guy who posts on under the name CoachRedPill is an Chilean named Gonzalo Lira Lopez living in Ukraine. According to his wikipedia page which is currently only displayed in Russian and Spanish, Lopez is a dual US/Chilean citizen. Dartmouth and Saint Johns College are listed under education. (You can toggle the page to edit mode and see individual entries in English.)

Link to his Russian wikipedia page.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0,_%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE


He's also got a history on Reddit. He looks to be as popular as Safariman in the r/Destiny sub. I have no idea why or what is the history on this, but you are welcome to dig further.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/t41pya/coach_red_pill_featured_on_russian_state_tv/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/t0w0ex/didnt_coach_red_pill_move_to_ukraine/
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston

Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.


Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.


The last 70 years of US military actions abroad is evidence to the contrary.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.
Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.
Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
Like when we invaded _____. Fill in the blank.

Clearly there is no other reason for a military action unless you intend to occupy and absorb the other country.


Nobody typed the word"absorb" That was your bias hearing words nobody typed.

We intended to Americanize Astan and Iraq, not "absorb".

That was a dumb idea also.


If we're being charitable, Occupy + Russify tend toward 'Absorb'.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston

Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.

Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
The last 70 years of US military actions abroad is evidence to the contrary.


Well I guess the US didn't intend to Russify any where but we damn sure occupied and attempted to Americanize Astan and Iraq.

It was a fool errand unless you were in the arms buisness.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.

You are a sick soulless Sumbitch.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston

Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.

Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
The last 70 years of US military actions abroad is evidence to the contrary.


Well I guess the US didn't intend to Russify any where but we damn sure occupied and attempted to Americanize Astan and Iraq.

It was a fool errand unless you were in the arms buisness.


You think we tried to Americanize these places?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston

Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.

Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
The last 70 years of US military actions abroad is evidence to the contrary.


Well I guess the US didn't intend to Russify any where but we damn sure occupied and attempted to Americanize Astan and Iraq.

It was a fool errand unless you were in the arms buisness.


You think we tried to Americanize these places?



We tried

We sucked at it, but we tried.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston

Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.

Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
The last 70 years of US military actions abroad is evidence to the contrary.


Well I guess the US didn't intend to Russify any where but we damn sure occupied and attempted to Americanize Astan and Iraq.

It was a fool errand unless you were in the arms buisness.


You think we tried to Americanize these places?



We tried

We sucked at it, but we tried.


Was that part of the "Democracy" pitch?
A better question: How long before Putin launches nukes?
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.

You are a sick soulless Sumbitch.






And you are the dumbest liberal on the Block.
Originally Posted by Redneck
A better question: How long before Putin launches nukes?


He will probably throw slime (chem weapons) as the first esculation.

The Ukraine forces stopping him and then starving him is the best bet to keep us out of the mess.

Biden is going to slow roll the arms but the flow of NLAWs and other ATGMs from other countries it building, spring mud is coming fast, and his supplies are very low.
Originally Posted by Redneck
A better question: How long before Putin launches nukes?


Why would he?
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by GAGoober
A lot more Ukrainian folks are going to die and many more suffer terribly if Zelinsky keeps fighting. They need to arrive at a peaceful solution now. Additionally, we need to figure out how to live peacefully with Russia on the other side of the Globe without totally ruining our country with sanction after sanction.



So, Ukraine should just quit fighting and give Russia the keys to the country?

Thank God England did not quit fighting when it appeared that Germany was on the verge of whipping their butts.

You’re right good thing about England or we would all be singing “Deutschland Deutschland Uber Alles”. Putin does not want to occupy Ukraine unlike Nazi Germany wanting to occupy every country they invaded. I guess your strategy then is to let the entire country of Ukraine get leveled by Russia because that’s what’s going to happen if we don’t arrive at a peaceful solution. Let it burn eh?!?!
Even Better Question : Why haven’t we dropped a bunker buster on the Kremlin ??

(We being NATO - Not the USA warmongers ! )

Followed up by a couple tactical thermobarics[/b][b][ nukes ]to thoroughly mess[/b][b][clean ] things up.
No point pussy footin around with a bully. ( Economic Sanctions are only part of the solution. )

Most of his junk won’t launch or target successfully, never mind deploying
Originally Posted by 338Rules
Even Better Question : Why haven’t we dropped a bunker buster on the Kremlin ??

Followed up by a couple tactical nukes to thoroughly clean things up. No point pussy footin around with a bully.

Half his junk won’t launch successfully.



Canada as an aggressor on the world stage?

WTF has this world come to?
Originally Posted by 338Rules
Even Better Question : Why haven’t we dropped a bunker buster on the Kremlin ??

Followed up by a couple tactical nukes to thoroughly clean things up. No point pussy footin around with a bully.

Half his junk won’t launch successfully.



No need to worry about the other half, right? No big deal.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.

You are a sick soulless Sumbitch.






And you are the dumbest liberal on the Block.

You are like a dog that loves to roll around in his bullshit.
Putin could roll over Ukraine much faster I believe. But I think he doesn't want to take it as it has the potential of being another Afghanistan.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 338Rules
Even Better Question : Why haven’t we dropped a bunker buster on the Kremlin ??

Followed up by a couple tactical nukes to thoroughly clean things up. No point pussy footin around with a bully.

Half his junk won’t launch successfully.



Canada as an aggressor on the world stage?

WTF has this world come to?


Pretty sure his "we" means the USA but it could be sarcasm or satire.
You fools that are chirping about getting in a nuclear conflict with Russia need to look at some pictures of Nagasaki. It might sober you up a bit.
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.

You are a sick soulless Sumbitch.






And you are the dumbest liberal on the Block.

You are like a dog that loves to roll around in his bullshit.




No. I'm a dog that likes to chew the ass off of liberals.

😆😆😆😆
Originally Posted by Armednfree
Putin could roll over Ukraine much faster I believe. But I think he doesn't want to take it as it has the potential of being another Afghanistan.


Maybe but he's in for an insurgency and coinops regardless.

Last reporting I saw from non MSM, quoting senior defense (US) person was -

Kyiv - no significant advancement N/NW of city. East - no movement of Russian forces, 30km to the East. Facing heavy resistance.

Chermihiv - isolated. Ukrainians defending the city.

Kharkiv - No Russian advancement on the ground

Mykolaiv - Ukrainians defending city - Russians outside the city mostly to the NE

Mariupol - isolated with Russians to the North and East. Heavy bombardment of the city but Ukrainians defending

Ukrainian airspace is considered to be "contested" - Ukrainian AF still flying and employing missile defense, Russians have launched more than 1080 missiles since start of war (day 23 now)

In the West has reported missile strikes near Lviv International Airport appear to be accurate. NFI on type/origin or BDA

Assessment that Russians have 90% of their assembled combat power available to them.


FWIW

This guy has an interesting perspective.

Originally Posted by rainshot
You fools that are chirping about getting in a nuclear conflict with Russia need to look at some pictures of Nagasaki. It might sober you up a bit.


Perhaps you should look at pics of WW II Japanese POW camps...

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Many, many years in the military leads me to believe when he says "we" he means someone else's son, daughter, husband, wife, aunt or uncle.

Not "we" as in including himself in the actual action he's proposing.

Like World of Warcraft, but with real (other) people's lives.

This isn't the dumbest thing I've heard relative to Russia, but its in the top two.

How about "no?" Does "NO!" work for you?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 338Rules
Even Better Question : Why haven’t we dropped a bunker buster on the Kremlin ??

Followed up by a couple tactical nukes to thoroughly clean things up. No point pussy footin around with a bully.

Half his junk won’t launch successfully.



Canada as an aggressor on the world stage?

WTF has this world come to?


Pretty sure his "we" means the USA but it could be sarcasm or satire.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 338Rules
Even Better Question : Why haven’t we dropped a bunker buster on the Kremlin ??

Followed up by a couple tactical nukes to thoroughly clean things up. No point pussy footin around with a bully.

Half his junk won’t launch successfully.



Canada as an aggressor on the world stage?

WTF has this world come to?


Pretty sure his "we" means the USA but it could be sarcasm or satire.

Shootin a 338 when a 243 will do means you're serious.
Do you roll backwards when you shoot a 338 win mag Charlie?
Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by rainshot
You fools that are chirping about getting in a nuclear conflict with Russia need to look at some pictures of Nagasaki. It might sober you up a bit.


Perhaps you should look at pics of WW II Japanese POW camps...

link



While horrible (the camps) and understandable the retaliation - the reality is exploding suns many many magnitudes larger than WWII is a reality that people aren't grasping.

There's no such thing as a "tactical nuke" that doesn't end with "ICBMs" wiping us off the planet.

There is no such thing as "it sure sucks over there - glad I'm over here" when it comes to nuclear war or the aftermath. It would make those Japanese POW camps seem like a Sandal's resort.

That's the point.

Anyone who thinks a nuclear war, even at 1/2 speed would allow for any type of life after words makes me question their understanding of the stakes involved with a nuclear strike. Tactical or not.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.


Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.


Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.


Why does Georgia still speak Georgian?
I seriously doubt he ever throws in the towel. He's no Joe Biden.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.
Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.
Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
Why does Georgia still speak Georgian?


Because it's one of the major languages in Georgia and Putin lets them?

Just like they did back when Georgia was a republic of the USSR and the USSR allowed the speaking of Georgian language.
Somehow it'll magically get resolved, and Biden will get nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize before the mid term elections.
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Somehow it'll magically get resolved, and Biden will get nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize before the mid term elections.



Hahaha. You a dayomned politician or something? wink
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by jorgeI
It'll be a while... From a good source..

Here just a short review of most important events of the last 24 hours (17 Mar 22), before I continue with my analysis of the air war over Ukraine in the first three weeks of this conflict.
CAA - Combined Arms Army (Russia)
BTG - Battalion Tactical Group (Russia)
GMRD - Guards Motor Rifle Division (Russia)
GTA - Guards Tank Army (Russia)
GTD - Guards Tank Division (Russia)
IFV - infantry fighting vehicle
LOC - Line of Control (old frontline between Ukraine and Separatists in the Donbass region)
MANPAD – man-protable air defence system
MBT - main battle tank
MRB - Motorized Rifle Brigade
MRD - Motorized Rifle Division
PGM – precision guided munition
RFA – Russian Federation Army/Russian Armed Forces
RF-9xxxx - Russian military aviation registration
SAM – surface-to-air missile
UAF – Ukrainian armed Forces
UCAV – unmanned combat aerial vehicle
VDV - Vozdushno-desantnye voyska (Russian Airborne forces)
VKS - Vozdushno-kosmicheskiye sily (Air-Space Force, Russia)
West OSK – Western Military District, RFA
A note for the start: Ironically, I’ve announced I’ll slow down, yesterday – and the Ukrainian MOD promptly ceased providing details about developments on the battlefield. I understand this as, 'they have good reasons why'.
‘Is OK, don’t worry’: there are more than enough other sources to get info from, and then cross-check. Actually, I hardly used anything from the Ukrainian MOD so far - except for orientation purposes. Plus – except one is directly involved, or has friends and/or relatives there - there wasn’t that much going on on battlefields of Ukraine War, yesterday.
For example, in the Kyiv area there was only sporadic shelling and rocketing. Sure, tragically, this has caused additional civilian casualties. Similar is valid for Chernihiv and Kharkiv. Further south-east, it turned out the Ukrainians have recovered the southern side of Izium, two-three days ago: the 144th MRD has attempted to capture the same, yesterday, but was ambushed and lost a number of vehicles (yes, 'once again').
At least in theory, more important is a report along which the Ukrainians have hit the field HQ of the 35th CAA, north-west of Kyiv, yesterday. This remains unconfirmed as of right now, but if they have delivered such a blow, it might prompt another, days-long delay in further Russian offensive operations in this part of Ukraine.
In the Luhansk area, the Russians are claiming to have captured Rubizhne: actually, they did reach the northern outskirts, before running out of steam: too few troops to run a bigger assault. For similar reasons, also the attacks on Sieveierodonetsk and Popasna remained unsuccessful.
In Mariupol, there is bitter house-to-house fighting in the western centre of the city. The only thing I’m sure by now is that, in the East, the 150th MRD suffered heavy losses and was stopped while advancing along the M14 highway in between the Kalmiusky District in the North, and Livoberezhnyi District in the south. Two days ago, the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade and Separatists have run that attack from West in direction of the Freedom Square, but were cut to pieces: word is the Separatists have lost another of their commanders: I just couldn’t find out his name. Of course, the city is all the time plastered by air strikes and artillery.
If there are really ‘news’, then from the battlefields in the south, and then the western bank of Dnepr, in the Mykolaiv area. Before I go on in this regards, please mind: in cases of wars like this one, I'm regularly about 2-6 days ahead of the mainstream media (so much so, the following segment was originally written already two days ago). Thus, don't be surprised if you now get to hear something that wasn't reported anywhere else.
Namely, regardless what are all the possible maps published on the TV and the internet shown, since two days the 58th CAA is on full withdrawal back to Kherson. Realising the Russians have no troops to launch an amphibious landing on Odessa, the Ukrainians brought in their 28th Mechanised Brigade and, pushing south from Mykolaiv, liberated Posad-Pokrovske on the M14 highway (that’s only some 40km outside Kherson).
About 200km further north, the Ukrainians have liberated Mala Shestirnya (also on the western bank of Dnepr, but south of Kryvyi Rih), too. Think, whoever is in command of the 58th CAA, might now want to pull back all of his troops and concentrate on defending Kherson - which is going to be a big trouble alone because of constant unrest and protests by the population inside (which are going on for two weeks, meanwhile).
BTW, Ukrainian Su-24s and Su-25s flew at least eight combat sorties in support of the counter-offensive of their ground forces along the M14, yesterday.
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Which is bringing me to the...
Air War over Ukraine, Part 3
Before I go on into specific other details: chat with a Syrian contact, yesterday evening, reminded me of an important experience with Russians in the war there, back from 2015-2018.
Actually, it’s an extremely bad idea to mark buildings with Red Crosses and words like ‘Children’ when fighting a war with them.
In Syria of September 2015, the insurgents have – via the White Helmets and the UN – informed the Russian HQ at Hmeymim AB about every single of hospitals in areas held by them. They have provided precise coordinates, expecting the VKS to avoid these.
The Russians bombed every single of hospitals in question, and then launched a smear campaign against the White Helmets, declaring them for ‘jihadists’.
When the insurgents began hiding their hospitals, the Russians somehow got coordinates for these (probably bribed somebody at the UN), and bombed them too. Without exception.
…and, hand on heart, pilots are so busy flying their jets at 900km/h (+) without colliding with the ground, they’ve got no time to ‘read’ what’s written on or around some building: they have got their coordinates from superior commanders, are following orders and are bombing these.
Thus, my recommendation for Ukrainians: do not clearly mark your hospitals, ambulances, kindergartens or public shelters. HIDE THEM.
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Having cleared that, now let’s see what is the Ukrainian Air Force Doing the last three weeks.
The Ukrainian Air Force has no such ‘force multipliers’ like A-50s, and even if: due to their size and slow speed, these would be ‘targets No.1’ for the VKS and thus far too vulnerable to operate. Indeed, even Ukrainian ground-based radars are only capable of operating for limited periods of time (say: 60-120 seconds at time): then they have to turn off in order to conceal their position.
Why that?
Early warning/surveillance radars are powerful systems, emitting huge amounts of electromagnetic energy. Their work is thus easily detected by modern-day sensors - as used by all armed forces for so-called ELINT-purposes (stands for 'Electronic Intelligence'). Unsurprisingly, the effect of powering up one of them on a modern battlefield can best be compared with turning on a hand-held lamp on a darkened football stadium by night: the holder of the lamp can only see what the lamp enlightens, but everybody – even in the rearmost corner of that stadium – can see the position of the lamp-holder. At least as long as the lamp is on…
Thus, better to turn the lamp on for only very short periods of time, and always change position immediately after. This comes at the price of the Ukrainians having a very poor ‘radar picture’ of their airspace, and – probably – depending on reports about visual observations instead. The latter is a well-proven, ages-old practice, but lately severely curtailed by massive, low clouds hanging over Ukraine. In turn, clouds are something neither Ukrainian nor Russian pilots like to fly through: the mass of both is only poorly trained in operations in adverse weather.
In regards of flight operations… As reported already several times, late in the evening of 23 February, the Ukrainian Air Force has quickly evacuated all of air bases in northern and eastern parts of the country. Around 22.00hrs that evening, one could track that evacuation even on the FlightRadar24.com, because numerous of involved transports and helicopters had their transponders activated.
Ever since, combat aircraft and helicopters are well-dispersed and -concealed, while many of transports were flown out of the country. This is why the Ukrainian fleet of aircraft and helicopters survived the first two days of the Russian onslaught in a relatively ‘intact’ condition.
Meanwhile, UkAF’s primary problems are communication and maintenance. Yes, types like MiG-29, Su-25 and Su-27 are made for ‘rough field’ operations, and can operate from grass strips, if necessary. But, maintaining them under such conditions is anything than easy: maintenance requires cleanliness and tools, and maintaining these two factors, literally ‘in the field’, is not easy. Their next problem is fuel: the Russians are continuously targeting fuel depots of major Ukrainian air bases with their ballistic missiles.
If the fuel is destroyed, it’s not available. Even if it is ‘just’ contaminated, its use can necessitate a complete engine removal.
That’s no ‘fun’ under field conditions…
…and then the air-to-air missiles – especially the medium-ranged R-27 (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘AA-10 Alamo’) - are renowned for ‘not liking’ being roughly handled: due to resulting vibrations, any take-off or landing on a grass runway is near-certain to ruin all the rounds carried by the jet. Under the given conditions, at the time the UkAF is surely going to experience massive problems while trying to maintain and/or repair its stocks of air-to-air missiles, this means, ‘once and forever’.
Now comes that with communications: because it usually takes long for the HQ to figure out where are potential targets and what aircraft are available where, the UkAF is operating only against targets it can be sure are going to remain within a specific zone for long enough. Then the Su-24s, or, and more often, Su-25s are directed into strikes on RFA’s ground units. Mind: they operate with a bare minimum of intelligence about the strength and disposition of the Russian air defence. Unsurprisingly, and as should be meanwhile clear, involved crews are exposing themselves to the full power of the Russian arsenal and most of their sorties are either intercepted by VKS’ Su-27s, Su-30s, and Su-35s, or by ground-based air defences. Consequence are very heavy losses.
MiG-29s and Su-27s are used for interception only, and only if there is a ‘good opportunity’, and then armed with R-27s. Why that? The Russians are not even trying to engage them in dogfights, but firing their own R-27s and – slightly shorter-ranged, but active-radar-homing R-77s (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘AA-12 Adder’) - from near-maximum range. Why taking risk to get shot down by one of nearly ineffective Ukrainian interceptors, if one can smack them from stand-off range….? Correspondingly, Ukrainians need ‘speed’ and ‘range’, not ‘manoeuvrability’.
One thing the UkAF MiG-29- and Su-27-pilots tried earlier during the war was to target the VKS aircraft with R-27ETs. Mind that for combat jets, activating radar is similar like that with early warning/surveillance radars, i.e. hand-held lamp on a darkened stadium by night. Thus, pilots are usually trying to approach their opponent without turning their radars on. The R-27ET is the infr-ared homing variant of this missile system, which means that – contrary to the R-27ER semi-active radar-homing variant – it requires no radar to be activated: it can be aimed and fired with help of the MiG-29’s and Su-27’s electro-optical targeting system.
Problem: R-27ET’s seeker head is dated (from the early 1980s) and has a relatively short acquisition range. Several UkAF MiGs and Sukhois have been shot down by Russian interceptors while trying to cut the range and deploy their R-27ETs.
(In this regards, the Ukrainians are now going through almost the same experience like Indian Su-30MKI-crews when trying to combat Pakistani F-16s and JF-17s during clashes back in February 2019: the sole difference is that – thanks to far better (and more intensive) tactical training, and superior situational awareness, and regardless of all the Pakistani- (and some US-) science fiction – the Indians lost none of their Su-30MKIs: by now it’s certain that the Ukrainians lost at least four of their MiG-29- and Su-27-pilots killed. )
Finally, Ukrainians are facing the threat of such Russian long-range surface-to-air missile systems like S-400 (ASCC/NATO-codename ‘SA-21 Growler’): word is that one is deployed only about 100km north of Kyiv, just few kilometres inside Belarus. Like Ukrainian S-300s are keeping Russian reconnaissance aircraft at bay, the presence of Russian S-400s is forcing the UkAF to fly low (so to avoid early detection by the Russian radars – including those of A-50s), where its jets are vulnerable even to small-arms fire.
Sometimes, this is not possible: its jets have to ‘jink’ upwards, to target higher-flying Russians. That in turn exposed them to S-400s, and word is that two or three have been shot down by S-400s: one, reportedly, from no less than 125km range.
That’s the ‘essence’ of this air war, and in this regards, I do not expect a lot to change, regardless how long it might go on.

Finally,
Someone with a clue posting something written by someone with a clue.



Amen!!!
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by rainshot
You fools that are chirping about getting in a nuclear conflict with Russia need to look at some pictures of Nagasaki. It might sober you up a bit.
Perhaps you should look at pics of WW II Japanese POW camps...

link
While horrible (the camps) and understandable the retaliation - the reality is exploding suns many many magnitudes larger than WWII is a reality that people aren't grasping.

There's no such thing as a "tactical nuke" that doesn't end with "ICBMs" wiping us off the planet.

There is no such thing as "it sure sucks over there - glad I'm over here" when it comes to nuclear war or the aftermath. It would make those Japanese POW camps seem like a Sandal's resort.

That's the point.

Anyone who thinks a nuclear war, even at 1/2 speed would allow for any type of life after words makes me question their understanding of the stakes involved with a nuclear strike. Tactical or not.

After WWII, no country ever built a nuclear weapon with the intention of actually using it. It's the loud bark that keeps the dog out of a fight. Until of course, the Left rebuilds the economy of Iran because of their environmentalism obsession. Under their watch, and with Russia and China's help, Iran will likely be the first country to ever build a nuclear weapon with every intention of using it.
You give in to pacify Putin this time, what do you do WHEN he conducts his next "special military operation" in another sovereign nation? Maybe this time it will be in a NATO country like Poland! If Putin can claim victory in this one he will gain more support by his people as well as be personally emboldened for his next "adventure".

Also do you think the West advising the Ukrainians to surrender to Putins terms will be looked at as a potential deterrent or as a "go ahead" to the Chinks, the Norks, Iran etc when they consider their own military "adventures" against a western friendly nation?

Keep our military the hell out of it, SELL the Ukrainians any arms they want and let the Russian or the Ukrainian populations decide for themselves when they have had enough of Putin or Zelenskyy and deal with their problem.
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.


With that we are in total agreement.
I hope they get the help they need to keep fighting and killing those Russians. IN 60 days, Russia is going to be a world of crap if India and China does not bail them out. If they do, we should throw everyone of their citizens here going to school on our dime on a student visa out of the country, immediately.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.


With that we are in total agreement.


Sorry, but you're wrong.

You are both smart enough to connect the dots if you wanted to.

All money laundering roads of the deep state cabal puppets like Zero, Bidet, Soros, Hillary, Piglosi, Kerry and Romney lead to Ukraine and the Neonazi US NWO cabals plan to finance them with US Foreign Aid dollars and their plan to take out Putin the Nationalist, like Trump, with NIH financed Bioweapons and nuclear weapons facilities in Ukraine.

Hopefully now the planned pandemic Bill Gates told us was going to come and be worse than COVID-19 will be stopped by Putins actions.

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GS refers to George Soros.

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Originally Posted by keith
I hope they get the help they need to keep fighting and killing those Russians. IN 60 days, Russia is going to be a world of crap if India and China does not bail them out. If they do, we should throw everyone of their citizens here going to school on our dime on a student visa out of the country, immediately.


There are are Nazis in Ukraine. STOP listening to any MSM. Putin is doing the world a huge favor. Get a clue and do your research not on google.
Originally Posted by keith
I hope they get the help they need to keep fighting and killing those Russians. IN 60 days, Russia is going to be a world of crap if India and China does not bail them out. If they do, we should throw everyone of their citizens here going to school on our dime on a student visa out of the country, immediately.


So you're on the side of Zero, Hillary, Bidet and this guy?

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Seems that Russia doesn't want NATO to take over Ukraine.

Yes?


Question: if they take over Ukraine, do they end up with more or less NATO countries directly bordering them?


Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?




How much of Ukraine is NOT already populated by a majority of Russians?
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.


With that we are in total agreement.


We have not just meddled, but outright placed people in power in countries like Ukraine. To step back now and deny any ownership is fûcking stupid.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
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I am probably going to regret this but are you saying this screen shot is a Q drop?

Where is the trip code?
Originally Posted by NoDak
Originally Posted by keith
I hope they get the help they need to keep fighting and killing those Russians. IN 60 days, Russia is going to be a world of crap if India and China does not bail them out. If they do, we should throw everyone of their citizens here going to school on our dime on a student visa out of the country, immediately.


There are are Nazis in Ukraine. STOP listening to any MSM. Putin is doing the world a huge favor. Get a clue and do your research not on google.


This.

They suck the MSM Kool-aid. They cant connect the dots.

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Some can get a clue, however. grin Trump has a clue.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.
Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.
Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.
Like when we invaded _____. Fill in the blank.

Clearly there is no other reason for a military action unless you intend to occupy and absorb the other country.


Nobody typed the word"absorb" That was your bias hearing words nobody typed.

We intended to Americanize Astan and Iraq, not "absorb".

That was a dumb idea also.

We certainly Americanized Japan. Deservedly so. Their entire culture deserved to die.

Tell me there are no other examples. California, New Mexico, Arizona come to mind. How about Texas? There was a hell of a lot of American influence in the Texas war for independence.

54/40 or fight! The Oregon territory. Ask the Sioux, the Cherokee, the Apache, the Comanche, Blackfoot, Nez Perce, Bannock.

Manifest Destiny was about nothing more than destroying peoples and stealing their lands.

But no, America has no blood on HER hands.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Nobody typed the word"absorb" That was your bias hearing words nobody typed.

We intended to Americanize Astan and Iraq, not "absorb".

That was a dumb idea also.

We certainly Americanized Japan. Deservedly so. Their entire culture deserved to die.

Tell me there are no other examples. California, New Mexico, Arizona come to mind. How about Texas? There was a hell of a lot of American influence in the Texas war for independence.

54/40 or fight! The Oregon territory. Ask the Sioux, the Cherokee, the Apache, the Comanche, Blackfoot, Nez Perce, Bannock.

Manifest Destiny was about nothing more than destroying peoples and stealing their lands.

But no, America has no blood on HER hands.


So my point was correct about what the word invade means.

Thanks, I guess.
It was named after its purpose which was to Tell - A - Vision.

Some people are hypnotized by it.


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Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by rainshot
You fools that are chirping about getting in a nuclear conflict with Russia need to look at some pictures of Nagasaki. It might sober you up a bit.
Perhaps you should look at pics of WW II Japanese POW camps...

link
While horrible (the camps) and understandable the retaliation - the reality is exploding suns many many magnitudes larger than WWII is a reality that people aren't grasping.

There's no such thing as a "tactical nuke" that doesn't end with "ICBMs" wiping us off the planet.

There is no such thing as "it sure sucks over there - glad I'm over here" when it comes to nuclear war or the aftermath. It would make those Japanese POW camps seem like a Sandal's resort.

That's the point.

Anyone who thinks a nuclear war, even at 1/2 speed would allow for any type of life after words makes me question their understanding of the stakes involved with a nuclear strike. Tactical or not.

After WWII, no country ever built a nuclear weapon with the intention of actually using it. It's the loud bark that keeps the dog out of a fight. Until of course, the Left rebuilds the economy of Iran because of their environmentalism obsession. Under their watch, and with Russia and China's help, Iran will likely be the first country to ever build a nuclear weapon with every intention of using it.

That is why is has been known as mutually assured destruction for over fifty years.

Who here did not grow up on "Failsafe", "On The Beach", "Dr Strangelove", or even the latecomer "A Boy and his Dog"?
We will see if Q is right about Trump and the Patriots having set the trap and bringing the traitors to justice and bringing in a wonderful new world and if Putin and Xi become our allies and if the House of Saud has aligned with Trump, and if the FBY and CYA and MSM and FB and Twitter and Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg and Soros and Jeff Zucker and Big Pharma and Zero and Kilery and Hunter are taken down and if all that happens as Q has told his it wont matter, you would still say it was just a few coincidences.

Oh, and Hunter will be charged and his bank accounts and transactions will be opened and it will reveal a pandoras box.

And Hillery and Zero and Piglosi and Pedo Joe will be proved as pedophiles and the people will turn against them and Qs red wave will hit and Durham will unseal many indictments that will turn the people against the cabal.
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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by rainshot
You fools that are chirping about getting in a nuclear conflict with Russia need to look at some pictures of Nagasaki. It might sober you up a bit.
Perhaps you should look at pics of WW II Japanese POW camps...

link
While horrible (the camps) and understandable the retaliation - the reality is exploding suns many many magnitudes larger than WWII is a reality that people aren't grasping.

There's no such thing as a "tactical nuke" that doesn't end with "ICBMs" wiping us off the planet.

There is no such thing as "it sure sucks over there - glad I'm over here" when it comes to nuclear war or the aftermath. It would make those Japanese POW camps seem like a Sandal's resort.

That's the point.

Anyone who thinks a nuclear war, even at 1/2 speed would allow for any type of life after words makes me question their understanding of the stakes involved with a nuclear strike. Tactical or not.

After WWII, no country ever built a nuclear weapon with the intention of actually using it. It's the loud bark that keeps the dog out of a fight. Until of course, the Left rebuilds the economy of Iran because of their environmentalism obsession. Under their watch, and with Russia and China's help, Iran will likely be the first country to ever build a nuclear weapon with every intention of using it.

That is why is has been known as mutually assured destruction for over fifty years.

Who here did not grow up on "Failsafe", "On The Beach", "Dr Strangelove", or even the latecomer "A Boy and his Dog"?


And it will be proven that Q was right about the Patriots being in control and there will be no nuclear war and that we who trusted in Trump and who trusted in the Military will be proven proper in doing so.

And Putin will be proven correct in this statement.

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Originally Posted by jaguartx
We will see if Q is right about Trump and the Patriots having set the trap and bringing the traitors to justice and bringing in a wonderful new world and if Putin and Xi become our allies and if the House of Saud has aligned with Trump, and if the FBY and CYA and MSM and FB and Twitter and Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg and Soros and Jeff Zucker and Big Pharma and Zero and Kilery and Hunter are taken down and if all that happens as Q has told his it wont matter, you would still say it was just a few coincidences.

Oh, and Hunter will be charged and his bank accounts and transactions will be opened and it will reveal a pandoras box.

And Hillery and Zero and Piglosi and Pedo Joe will be proved as pedophiles and the people will turn against them and Qs red wave will hit and Durham will unseal many indictments that will turn the people against the cabal.

That might happen about a year after Jesus descends from the heavens in a cloud of Glory.

But I ain't holdin' my breath for either.
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I am saying the Prince 🤴 of Peace throws in the towel first! Three more weeks
The Qtards keep pretending and drooling…
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
The Qtards keep pretending and drooling…


And moving goalposts!!!
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Seems that Russia doesn't want NATO to take over Ukraine.

Yes?


Question: if they take over Ukraine, do they end up with more or less NATO countries directly bordering them?


Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?




How much of Ukraine is NOT already populated by a majority of Russians?


Um, a lot. The vast majority.
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Somehow it'll magically get resolved, and Biden will get nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize before the mid term elections.



If I were completely and utterly skeptical of anything the corp press & Biden Admin say and do I’d suggest we buy squares and call it “March Madness”

$50/ea?
U kraine

Where men are men

And sheep are nervous


😬

That’s Idaho sorry
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
The Qtards keep pretending and drooling…


And moving goalposts!!!


The best part is watching them yell NAZI as if that gives Russia a reason to invade.

Hint: the commies were worse than the Nazis, and people yelling "NAZI" while gargling Putin's balls sound like libtards here talking about the alt-right Nazis.


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I hope a few 100,000 more dead POS russians before he starts considering it.
Zelensky won't quit until the last drop of goy blood is spilled.
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
The Qtards keep pretending and drooling…


And moving goalposts!!!


Trump gets back in.

DNC destroyed.

Traitors prosecuted.

Putin and Xi become allies.

MSM, FBY and CYA destroyed.

Soros, Comey, Zuckerberg, Comey and Dorsey to Prison.

Zero, Hillary, Biden, Feinstein, Schumer, Nadless, Schietfy, Wasserman, McCabe, Stzrok, Yovanovitch, Vindemann, successfully prosecuted.

Facebook and Twitter made into public utilities or into reciever ship and if you say you knew all that you are full of shatt.

You want to expound on what goal posts are moved?
Originally Posted by Esteban325
Zelensky won't quit until the last drop of goy blood is spilled.


But, but, they're NAZIS!!!!!
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by marktheshark
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
The Qtards keep pretending and drooling…


And moving goalposts!!!


Trump gets back in.

Traitors prosecuted.

Putin and Xi become allies.

MSM, FBY and CYA destroyed.

Soros, Comey, Zuckerberg, Comey and Dorsey to Prison.

Zero, Hillary, Biden, Feinstein, Schumer, Nadless, Schietfy, Wasserman, McCabe, Stzrok, Yovanovitch, Vindemann, successfully prosecuted.

Facebook and Twitter made into public utilities or into reciever ship and if you say you knew all that you are full of shatt.

You want to expound on what goal posts are moved?


Why would he wait? Losing was part of the plan, right? Trump's in charge. It's all falling into place. Just two weeks and you guys will see!!!!!!


As to you're last sentence, well, Trump being the president by a certain date for a bet comes to mind.....
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I think the shirtless picture of the prince of peace gave the tucker turtles a chub they just can’t relieve.


#warthogsandabrams
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by goalie
I also think the apparent need to make the Russian v Ukraine thing somehow about us is hilarious.

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but not everything is about the United States, or our money grubbing, corrupt politicians.


With that we are in total agreement.


We have not just meddled, but outright placed people in power in countries like Ukraine. To step back now and deny any ownership is fûcking stupid.



It's a little strange.
I know, right. Why isn't our [bleep] press who is financing the factions in detail? Many know why...
And who better a bagholder than "Nazis!".
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But, but, they're NAZIS!!!!![/quote]

You hang in there to your straws, short stop. You've got Q backed into the corner.

You have maybe 1/2 a point against 30 or more Q will have by the time this deal is over.

Too bad youre stupid enough to confuse my expectations with what Q said. Pretty disingenuous dont you think to attribute anyone else's errors to Que.
Isnt that like some POS saying God does not exist by pointing out someone saying the world would end on a certain date when it didnt?
TFF.

Yeah, you got Q by the short hairs all right. TFF.

WHOA, what's this? Yeah, you got the big guns proving Q is a larp. Come on, go for the win. Tell us what the MSM said about him.

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I can tell you've got the goods on Q and you're fixing to give him a shellacking.

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I bet you could prove God is a larp too. Remember when He said He would be coming again soon. Heres some help, bring up the fact it's been 2000 years and you'll have Him by the short hairs too. wink

You're just too sharp for Q, goalie. You found him out. Dayom, if just the MSM had hired to go destroy the Q they coulda saved hundreds of millions.
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Schiett, Strider. Just think, for just 10% of what the MSM spent they could have just hired goalie and Bam, Q would have been history just like that and goalie would be rolling in the millions.
So sad.
Originally Posted by MarkWV
I hope a few 100,000 more dead POS russians before he starts considering it.


Serious question, I work around quite a few Russians and Ukrainian immigrants. Mostly 1st gen, mostly very Christian, hard working, family oriented folks. Most very talented with their hands in almost every trade.

When you say POS Russians it sounds like a generalization of the average Russian citizen, is that what you mean? If so, why?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by MarkWV
I hope a few 100,000 more dead POS russians before he starts considering it.


Serious question, I work around quite a few Russians and Ukrainian immigrants. Mostly 1st gen, mostly very Christian, hard working, family oriented folks. Most very talented with their hands in almost every trade.

When you say POS Russians it sounds like a generalization of the average Russian citizen, is that what you mean? If so, why?


Morons are going to moron. Funny how these pro war conservatives are following Biden, Pelosi, Schumer now like blind , deaf sheep.
Come on goalie and wolve. Take that no good lying hope providing puke larp Q down for saying this piece of unmitigated BS.

Let us know you will prove him wrong.

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I
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by MarkWV
I hope a few 100,000 more dead POS russians before he starts considering it.


Serious question, I work around quite a few Russians and Ukrainian immigrants. Mostly 1st gen, mostly very Christian, hard working, family oriented folks. Most very talented with their hands in almost every trade.

When you say POS Russians it sounds like a generalization of the average Russian citizen, is that what you mean? If so, why?


Morons are going to moron. Funny how these pro war conservatives are following Biden, Pelosi, Schumer now like blind , deaf sheep.


Dont hold it against the snowflake. He means well, just like poor kids in school who the pukes have taught to love and adore Zero, Hillary, Biden, Piglosi and our wonderful "Democracy". whistle
GeezUS .. Bitches ..
It’s the Coliseum..
Are You not Entertained..
Originally Posted by akrange
GeezUS .. Bitches ..
It’s the Coliseum..
Are You not Entertained..


I am.

The mental gymnastics that the "Trust Wray, Trust Sessions" crowd go through is amazing......
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Come on goalie and wolve. Take that no good lying hope providing puke larp Q down for saying this piece of unmitigated BS.

Let us know you will prove him wrong.



I understand that Q gives you "hope."

I learned in the corps that "hope is not a plan of action"

You purposefully keep acting like someone who thinks the whole Q-tard thing is, well, ridiculous, somehow means that they're not someone who loves this country and freedom.

The fact that I'm not willing to "hope" that some random dude on the internet has some super secret 4d chess plan that involved Trump losing to save the world and Putin, an old school Russian thug, being an altruistic savior doesn't mean I support the [bleep] Democrats or RINO [bleep] politicians here.

So GFY you commie loving pos
He shoots


He scores

Light the lamp!
Originally Posted by akrange
GeezUS .. Bitches ..
It’s the Coliseum..
Are You not Entertained..


Ha. I have popcorn and I'm enjoying the movie. Bro, its the greatest movie on earth as Q said and Trump is the greatest actor on earth.

We are watching WW3 in slow motion. We are the most blessed. We are those chosen to see the big one, the ultimate battle between GOOD and EVIL.

HE returned at the last minute, when there was no hope left other than HIM, as it was when Moses and His people made in His image had their backs against the Red Sea and the kings war chariots were bearing down on them. The people cried and pissed and moaned like goalie and the wolve pissed that the deep state was taking over and all hope was lost. They couldn't hear Trump and couldnt hear Q. All they could hear was their friends voices of fear shouting that it was all over and we may as well bend over.
Tff.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
The people cried and pissed and moaned like goalie


Any time you want to compare DD214s I'm your huckleberry.
Like HE said in Psalms, He will return with the last trump.

MAGA.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by jaguartx
The people cried and pissed and moaned like goalie


Any time you want to compare DD214s I'm your huckleberry.




Take a pic, along with your latest sf50 and your neighbors house in the background.
The fact that some agree w/ jag pretty much explains why we have biden for a president.

Q the chorus of those that will say that biden is not really the president.


ptl, amen




mike r
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by jaguartx
The people cried and pissed and moaned like goalie


Any time you want to compare DD214s I'm your huckleberry.




Take a pic, along with your latest sf50 and your neighbors house in the background.




I rock a minivan. House is getting closer to joining the lake place though, you know, in the "paid off" colum.

😉
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by jaguartx
The people cried and pissed and moaned like goalie


Any time you want to compare DD214s I'm your huckleberry.




Take a pic, along with your latest sf50 and your neighbors house in the background.




I rock a minivan. House is getting closer to joining the lake place though, you know, in the "paid off" colum.

😉




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Goalie, will Trump be back in before running again in 2024?

Will the treasonous pukes be prosecuted?

Will the MSM, Faukki and big Pharma be destroyed.

Will Soros, Zero, Hillary, Bidens, Piglosi etc be prosecuted and punished?

Will FB and Twitter be either destroyed or made into public utilities?

Will Trump destroy the deep state NWO Bolshevik cabal?
Goalie,
You’re killing it. Seriously.
LMAO.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by jaguartx
The people cried and pissed and moaned like goalie


Any time you want to compare DD214s I'm your huckleberry.




Take a pic, along with your latest sf50 and your neighbors house in the background.




I rock a minivan. House is getting closer to joining the lake place though, you know, in the "paid off" colum.

😉




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Needs less champagne, more minivan
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Goalie,
You’re killing it. Seriously.
LMAO.


I'm just here laughing.

The idea that so many so called patriots support a fascist dictator who literally shut his country off from the internet to stop them from seeing what's happening is hilarious.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Goalie,
You’re killing it. Seriously.
LMAO.


I'm just here laughing.

The idea that so many so called patriots support a fascist dictator who literally shut his country off from the internet to stop them from seeing what's happening is hilarious.



What’s your take on our “internet” (twitter, Facebook etc..) and our MSM shutting down any opinions or ideas (truths) that don’t fit their narrative? You think our leadership isn’t fascist or at the very least controlled by fascist influences(money)? You act like we’re free.
You’re stuck in the outdated notion of “us” against “them”.
You’re not 5 years old playing cowboys and Indians anymore. Open your Fugkin eyes guy.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Goalie,
You’re killing it. Seriously.
LMAO.


I'm just here laughing.

The idea that so many so called patriots support a fascist dictator who literally shut his country off from the internet to stop them from seeing what's happening is hilarious.



And calling for more US tax money to be given to Zalensky who is what?

Sweet baby jeebus
Originally Posted by lvmiker
The fact that some agree w/ jag pretty much explains why we have biden for a president.

Q the chorus of those that will say that biden is not really the president.


ptl, amen




mike r


You stupid bastid. It's your crew who sides with Soros, Biden and the MSM.

The fact some side with me is because they have a higher IQ than a desk jockey in a cop shop.
Hope they drag it out for another 8 months. Then they can do whatever they want.
Originally Posted by jackmountain


What’s your take on our “internet” (twitter, Facebook etc..) and our MSM shutting down any opinions or ideas (truths) that don’t fit their narrative? You think our leadership isn’t fascist or at the very least controlled by fascist influences(money)? You act like we’re free.
You’re stuck in the outdated notion of “us” against “them”.
You’re not 5 years old playing cowboys and Indians anymore. Open your Fugkin eyes guy.


You might want to take (and pass) a logic 101 class before you go acting like I'm the one acting like a giver year old for not thinking binary here.

Projecting some kind of support by me for anyone/thing here in the US because I'm hoping Russia keeps getting it's shiit pushed in is on you.

Fuuck Russia, fuuck Putin, fuuck no fly zones, fuuck US boots on the ground, and fuuck 99% of our politicians on both sides of the aisle.

Is that clear enough?
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff


And calling for more US tax money to be given to Zalensky who is what?

Sweet baby jeebus



Europe should be footing the bill. Their circus, their monkeys.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Goalie,
You’re killing it. Seriously.
LMAO.


I'm just here laughing.

The idea that so many so called patriots support a fascist dictator who literally shut his country off from the internet to stop them from seeing what's happening is hilarious.



And calling for more US tax money to be given to Zalensky who is what?

Sweet baby jeebus



Come on BGG, $14 billion is pocket change to those guys, especially when it has to be divided up between Hunter, Joe, Zero, Hillary, Faukki, Piglosi, Kerry, Romney, Soros, Vindemann, Milley, Yovanovitch, Klaus Schwab, Azov mercenaries getting shot up by Putin and called the Ukranian Army by the MSM, .....
Originally Posted by Peddler
Hope they drag it out for another 8 months. Then they can do whatever they want.


Hahaha. Peddler has a clue.
It's not just that our State Department and big Business MIGHT have their finger prints on this deal.....they left a signed confession at the scene!
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
It's not just that our State Department and big Business MIGHT have their finger prints on this deal.....they left a signed confession at the scene!


And posted it online
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Goalie,
You’re killing it. Seriously.
LMAO.


I'm just here laughing.

The idea that so many so called patriots support a fascist dictator who literally shut his country off from the internet to stop them from seeing what's happening is hilarious.



Ha, as if that's not what our subversives arent soon going to do to us here to block the news of Qs predicted charges that will soon be starting to drop from Durham?

Ha. Someone wasnt swallowing the Zelinskiy Fake News BS. Someone wasnt clapping for nuclear war with Putin.

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I see the MSM, pretty much every government with an attachment to the globalists, exercising racism and segregation of the Russian People at large LOL,,,bad Russians, seize their accounts, assets because they are Russian??.

This "racism" is what they accuse us of LOL, they are the biggest racists, its right there for all to see.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

Do you believe they mean to occupy and Russify Ukraine?
Well, considering Putin has said as much, yes, yes I do.


Cite where Putin stated his intention is to occupy and Russify Ukraine.


Well that's sort of the entire purpose of invading a county and always has been from the begining of history.


Like when we invaded _____. Fill in the blank.

Clearly there is no other reason for a military action unless you intend to occupy and absorb the other country.


Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming.
Originally Posted by 673
I see the MSM, pretty much every government with an attachment to the globalists, exercising racism and segregation of the Russian People at large LOL,,,bad Russians, seize their accounts, assets because they are Russian??.

This "racism" is what they accuse us of LOL, they are the biggest racists, its right there for all to see.


You hit a great point.

The whole "seizure of assets" from individuals without even accusation of a crime should bother everyone.

It's like Canada messing with the trucker's supporters back accounts, and it will be abused here. By the left. Against people like me.
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Q said in his/her/it’s Drop 15 that Pootin was part of the evil global cabal that Trump was fighting. That invisible make-believe goofball Q lumped Pootin in with HRC, BO, and Soroos:

“ Realize Soros, Clintons, Obama, PUTIN, etc. are all controlled by 3 families. “ Per Q’s Drop 15

So which is it, Qbers, is Pootin the good guy or the bad guy? Q and her Anons are sure wish-washy. Oh, after all, it’s just a movie and another conspiracy theory. Sit back, relax, enjoy, and grab the popcorn.
Originally Posted by WhiteTail48
Q said in his/her/it’s Drop 15 that Pootin was part of the evil global cabal that Trump was fighting. That invisible make-believe goofball Q lumped Pootin in with HRC, BO, and Soroos:

“ Realize Soros, Clintons, Obama, PUTIN, etc. are all controlled by 3 families. “ Per Q’s Drop 15

So which is it, Qbers, is Pootin the good guy or the bad guy? Q and her Anons are sure wish-washy. Oh, after all, it’s just a movie and another conspiracy theory. Sit back, relax, enjoy, and grab the popcorn.


That was then.

This is 4d chess time, and you're an anti-american, freedom hating democrat if you don't have FAITH in Q


Did the Obama, Bidet, Hillery, Soros, Klause Schwab pos say anything I need to see?
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Did the Obama, Bidet, Hillery, Soros, Klause Schwab pos say anything I need to see?


Just quoted Q from drop 15 where Q said Putin was in bed with all those people......
Goalies buds.

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Goalie is a ginger.😁
Your god, Q, said Putin was in bed with the cabal.

Awkward

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Originally Posted by Raferman
Goalie is a ginger.😁


Goalies a spectator at the mental gymnastics Olympics.
Goalies buds are going down. No wonder he is on the rag. grin
Jag will save uour soul Goalie. 😂😂😂
Originally Posted by goalie
Your god, Q, said Putin was in bed with the cabal.

Awkward

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


Yep
Gross you know you're fugged when JeffO is in agreement.
It will be ok, goalie. You'll be redpilled by this fall and Trump will make sure you and yours will be ok. Hes even going to save dumbfughks like you from the NWO Cabals 2030 depopulation plan. smile
Says the guy running with the campfire wacko
Originally Posted by Raferman
Jag will save uour soul Goalie. 😂😂😂


Not likely.

I'm still in awe at the cognitive disconnect.

We'll be the "Nazis" here according to the MSM. And, apparently, that's all it takes.

Nobody's ever posted anything those alleged Nazis actually did to terrorize anyone in Ukraine. Just being called a Nazi justifies an invasion I guess.......
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Says the guy running with the campfire wacko


Hahaha. Tff. Like HE said, the ways of the wise seem foolish to fools.
With Trump’s comically retarded recent Putin gyrations, and, you know, REALITY happening, did jag ever admit Trump wasn’t POTUS?

Asking for a friend—
Originally Posted by jaguartx
It will be ok, goalie. You'll be redpilled by this fall and Trump will make sure you and yours will be ok. Hes even going to save dumbfughks like you from the NWO Cabals 2030 depopulation plan. smile


I don't need saving.

Unlike you, I've got experience.

I'm still waiting to hear your explanation of why Q said Putin was in bed with the cabal, yet you support Putin????
So Jell0 and Calledumb and Goalie are birds of a feather. TFF. No wonder they flock together.
Oh look. There you are.

At least none of this is Biden’s fault, since, y’know, he’s not even actually Biden due to them moles on his head and all.
Q said gingers are nazis by default.
Still waiting on why you support someone Q said was in bed with the cabal??????
Goalie doesn’t like me, and that’s fine, but he’s got his head screwed on straight.

But your a lunatic, jag. Full stop.
Goalie, you think you and Calledumb and Jell0 and Soros and Bidet are going to win over Putin in this Ukraine thing?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Goalie doesn’t like me, and that’s fine, but he’s got his head screwed on straight.

But your a lunatic, jag. Full stop.


Never did I don't like you. I don't agree with a lot of your politics.

But that's the thing, if you think like a five year old, Putin has to be good, because Ukraine was involved with money laundering by crooked politicians.

I mean, if you ignore Q saying Putin is part of the cabal......
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Goalie, you think you and Calledumb and Jell0 and Soros and Bidet are going to win over Putin in this Ukraine thing?


Serious answer: don't care. I want us to give Ukraine weapons to bleed Russia, and, if we're smart, get Europe to pay for it.

Sometimes you can come out a winner by nudging an "azzholes collide" moment, even on the world stage.

You, well, you can't even explain why, when Q said Putin is part of the cabal, you're supporting him, so......
Is it day 2 or no …………today?

2 to go for the snot nose special forces getting a towel?
I’m more convinced than ever “Q” is a drunk Ivan in some dingy Moscow basement.
I seen a deal on the snot nose….


They specialize in shovel war fare.


Perhaps 2 bury Czars?
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


So, why did Q say Putin was part of the cabal?

And trust Wray

And trust Sessions

But, the silence is deafening
My friends. I despise bickering. So I will ask: what is a judas goat / judas sheep? Are they willing or unwilling? That is my last on this thread. My requirement is be nice or I will start rubbing noses in it.
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


Ouch my ankle! The ankle biter is back!
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


So, why did Q say Putin was part of the cabal?

And trust Wray

And trust Sessions

But, the silence is deafening


Settle down champ.

Let's have Calvin answer honestly, w/o you having running interference.
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


Ouch my ankle! The ankle biter is back!


Helluva non-answer.
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


Ouch my ankle! The ankle biter is back!


Helluva non-answer.



How many campfire members have met you in person ?
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


So, why did Q say Putin was part of the cabal?

And trust Wray

And trust Sessions

But, the silence is deafening


Settle down champ.

Let's have Calvin answer honestly, w/o you having running interference.


I get that you don't want to answer.

It's hilarious to watch.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Originally Posted by add


Helluva non-answer.



Speaking of:

Why do you think Q said Putin was part of the cabal?
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


I believe it. It’s impressive how bullchit gets pumped out, and less impressive, there is always somebody ready to lap it up.
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


Ouch my ankle! The ankle biter is back!


Helluva non-answer.



How many campfire members have met you in person ?



I’ve met several.

No jab here. You?
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


Ouch my ankle! The ankle biter is back!


Helluva non-answer.



How many campfire members have met you in person ?


Is that 3-4 jabs Calv?
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


Ouch my ankle! The ankle biter is back!


Helluva non-answer.



How many campfire members have met you in person ?



I’ve met several.

No jab here. You?


Fuggin A!
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


Ouch my ankle! The ankle biter is back!


Helluva non-answer.



How many campfire members have met you in person ?


Is that 3-4 jabs Calv?


No. Not that it’s any of your business.

Name some active forum members you have met. Or at least post a pic.

I think I have hunted and fished with 20-30 forum members. Probably more.
None of you Q-tards will answer, I wonder why?

How come Q said Putin was part of the cabal, but now, according to many here, Putin is saving the world from the cabal?

Was Q wrong then, or now?
Originally Posted by add


Helluva non-answer.



Speaking of:

Why do you think Q said Putin was part of the cabal?
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Calvin
Q is an industry. Big money in conspiracy theories


Conspiracy?

How many times ya been jabbed, Calvin?


Ouch my ankle! The ankle biter is back!


Helluva non-answer.



How many campfire members have met you in person ?


Is that 3-4 jabs Calv?


No. Not that it’s any of your business.

Name some active forum members you have met. Or at least post a pic.

I think I have hunted and fished with 20-30 forum members. Probably more.


That's an affirmative!


laugh
Originally Posted by add


Helluva non-answer.



Speaking of:

Why do you think Q said Putin was part of the cabal?
Did you guys find the quote where Putin said he intended to reconstitute the Soviet Union?
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Come on you Commie puke, give us some words, the way your turd biotch Jen Paski does. grin
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...t-union-former-secretary-of-defense-says
Ok
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Did you guys find the quote where Putin said he intended to reconstitute the Soviet Union?


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/putin-ukraine-speech.html
Here's the way I see it. Russia has never done anything to the US in my lifetime. Ukraine has absorbed most of the key politician's kifs and tons of my money.

Ukraine did have bio-something labs, be it weapons, nefarious research or on the level research that was funded by our government alphabet agencies.....which are famous for being trustworthy and in the interest of US citizens.

The Russians are literally across the street from these labs, which are 5,392 miles away from my house.

The world just witnessed a global attack using what is alleged to be in the discussed labs. Media has been 100% wrong on everything that legitimately affects humans in America, and probably most of the world....but suddenly they are telling the truth about Ukraine, I hear "wolf!".

Russia was the space pioneer, has some of the most advanced aircraft, maintains a space station...but doesn't know how much fuel it takes to drive in a convoy......HOWEVER despite running out of fuel to get to the destination, the Russians do have enough diesel to run their "mobile cremation furnaces" in which they're burning 1,000 bodies a day.

You can't make this chit into something digestible to anyone with a tiny bit of critical thinking capability.

I'm not sure exactly what is happening, but I most certainly am too smart to buy what the media is trying to sell.
What aircraft do the soviets own that is “ advanced?”.

Is NATO set up to defend its self from Ukraine?

Or the Soviet Union?

Thanks

Is this Day 3?
Originally Posted by high_country_
Here's the way I see it. Russia has never done anything to the US in my lifetime.


You must be young.

The tanks and APCs I shot with TOW missiles were all Russian.

My uncle was shot down in Vietnam by a Russian SAM missile.
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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Did you guys find the quote where Putin said he intended to reconstitute the Soviet Union?


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/putin-ukraine-speech.html


That's some pretty hard core "interpretation".

If nothing else...the NYT just laid out the case in a positive light for invasion of the Donbas.
Originally Posted by high_country_
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Or, hospitals use the plugs they need to power medical devices.

Occam's razor
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Did you guys find the quote where Putin said he intended to reconstitute the Soviet Union?


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/putin-ukraine-speech.html


That's some pretty hard core "interpretation".

If nothing else...the NYT just laid out the case in a positive light for invasion of the Donbas.


Except that's not what Russia did.
No they didn't.


The same exact talk was going on when they invaded Georgia......and then they left.



You guys want to make this a "self determination" thing......but no one bothered to ask the Ukrainians.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
No they didn't.


The same exact talk was going on when they invaded Georgia......and then they left.



You guys want to make this a "self determination" thing......but no one bothered to ask the Ukrainians.


Russia did ask Ukraine and Ukraine answered with ATGMs, Stingers, and bullets.

Pretty clear answer.
Naw….

They will see the light.

It’s only day 3
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
No they didn't.


The same exact talk was going on when they invaded Georgia......and then they left.



You guys want to make this a "self determination" thing......but no one bothered to ask the Ukrainians.


Russia did ask Ukraine and Ukraine answered with ATGMs, Stingers, and bullets.

Pretty clear answer.


Nato and the west never asked.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by high_country_
Here's the way I see it. Russia has never done anything to the US in my lifetime.


You must be young.

The tanks and APCs I shot with TOW missiles were all Russian.

My uncle was shot down in Vietnam by a Russian SAM missile.




Brian Terry was killed in America with a gun from America that the alphabet agencies gave the bad guys.

I see a big difference between USSR and modern day Russia.
Originally Posted by high_country_
I see a big difference between USSR and modern day Russia.
Me too. And Ukraine funneled lots of kickback money to Biden and probably Obama and who knows who else. Democrat and Republican. When Trump was being impeached for trying to get Ukraine to spill the beans on Biden they would not produce the truth. Which was that Trump was exactly right over the target. That is why they were so desperate to put a lid on things.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by high_country_
I see a big difference between USSR and modern day Russia.
Me too. And Ukraine funneled lots of kickback money to Biden and probably Obama and who knows who else. Democrat and Republican. When Trump was being impeached for trying to get Ukraine to spill the beans on Biden they would not produce the truth. Which was that Trump was exactly right over the target. That is why they were so desperate to put a lid on things.



Bingo.
Russia?

Modern?

Kinda like

Army?

Intelligence?
Originally Posted by MadMooner
I’m more convinced than ever “Q” is a drunk Ivan in some dingy Moscow basement.



How about China, Manila, Japan, Arizona?

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Quite strange isn't it, that all the countries west of Russia, as soon as humanly possibly tried to join NATO and EU...
Its, like they never wanted to be slaves under an USSR clone again..


The Live Free or Die thing so many Right wingers here cling to, should probably take note..
Originally Posted by Northman
Quite strange isn't it, that all the countries west of Russia, as soon as humanly possibly tried to join NATO and EU...
Its, like they never wanted to be slaves under an USSR clone again..


The Live Free or Die thing so many Right wingers here cling to, should probably take note..
Most people don't want to live under the boot heal of a bunch of homosexuals & atheists.
Originally Posted by Northman
Quite strange isn't it, that all the countries west of Russia, as soon as humanly possibly tried to join NATO and EU...
Its, like they never wanted to be slaves under an USSR clone again..


The Live Free or Die thing so many Right wingers here cling to, should probably take note..





You are a fugging retard.

Coercion. Just like you fugging racists use on the blacks.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by high_country_
I see a big difference between USSR and modern day Russia.
Me too. And Ukraine funneled lots of kickback money to Biden and probably Obama and who knows who else. Democrat and Republican. When Trump was being impeached for trying to get Ukraine to spill the beans on Biden they would not produce the truth. Which was that Trump was exactly right over the target. That is why they were so desperate to put a lid on things.





Anybody ever ask how Obama is paying for that estate in Hawaii?

Oh, that's right. Almost forgot. His book.

He should write one about living on 2 of the most expensive coastlines in the USA, while parroting recorded messages about global warming.

LMAO.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.


Wonder if the OP wants to provide us with an updated prediction and a moving of the goal posts?

This one is not aging well.
I see Zelensky just banned all political parties in Ukraine. What kind of facism , I mean democracy is that? Sen another billion dollars for his offshore bank accounts lol
Originally Posted by ribka
I see Zelensky just banned all political parties in Ukraine. What kind of facism , I mean democracy is that? Sen another billion dollars for his offshore bank accounts lol


Really?

He banned them all, eh?

You sure about that?
Here ya go:
Sovereign ‘Democracy’ Ukraine: Zelenskyy Suspends 11 Opposition Parties Becoming Head Of A One-Party State

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, with the backing of Ukraine’s National Security and Defence Council, declared that all opposition parties would be suspended indefinitely until martial law is declared over.
In a statement issued yesterday evening, President Zelenskyy announced the following decree: political parties who his party, “Servants of the People,” has identified as being pro-Russian would be suspended until the nation-wide martial law is lifted. The list essentially includes every opposition party.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...n-parties-becoming-head-one-party-state/
Day 4?
By predictions tomorrow...
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.


Wonder if the OP wants to provide us with an updated prediction and a moving of the goal posts


jags prediction is the likely outcome. May be more than 4 days though, but it will happen. You heard it here first.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by high_country_
I see a big difference between USSR and modern day Russia.
Me too. And Ukraine funneled lots of kickback money to Biden and probably Obama and who knows who else. Democrat and Republican. When Trump was being impeached for trying to get Ukraine to spill the beans on Biden they would not produce the truth. Which was that Trump was exactly right over the target. That is why they were so desperate to put a lid on things.


Ukraine was the biggest Clinton Foundation donor of all nations.
Originally Posted by high_country_
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by high_country_
I see a big difference between USSR and modern day Russia.
Me too. And Ukraine funneled lots of kickback money to Biden and probably Obama and who knows who else. Democrat and Republican. When Trump was being impeached for trying to get Ukraine to spill the beans on Biden they would not produce the truth. Which was that Trump was exactly right over the target. That is why they were so desperate to put a lid on things.



Bingo.


Anf to a lot of Rinos, too. Kerry's son and Piglosi's son were given huge paying jobs there.Romney was on the payroll also.

Putin will get the proof and then when all the talking heads say BS he will drop the schiett pile on them.

Pretty good chance Xi gets the same goods on the NWO and labs in Tiawan.

Regardless, Putin and Xi will make the Bidet look like the crapper he is.
Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.


Wonder if the OP wants to provide us with an updated prediction and a moving of the goal posts


jags prediction is the likely outcome. May be more than 4 days though, but it will happen. You heard it here first.


This. At least I took a guess. Freaking Hannity tonight and retired big wheel military brass talking about how weak the Russian Army is. BS. NATO and the EU arent jumping in on this are they. May just be a clue in there somewhere.

So, would it be possible for Putin to take out the labs and NWO Nazi azov mercenaries and Uranium weapons plant and then back out, with an agreement with Z to not shut off the water bearing canal to Crimea they had closed trying to starve the Ruskies in Crimea out for the last few years? Z keeps Ukraine and Putin keeps the 2 new states full of Russians and the Crimea?

Both save face and the Obama, Hilry, Biden, Soros puppet government is then history?

Humm.

Putin of course gets to save face by keeping the proof Zero and Lugar and the NWO Cabal had been running illegal Bioweapons labs and doing GOF viral research and research on the smallpox virus Gates has hinted about possibly making a resurgence?

I also say theres no chance Putin leaves without hanging Hillary and Bidet and Zero with the Ukranian illegal money laundering kickback info Trump and the Patriots want?

Remember, Putin did say he didnt want Ukraine, but he was going to do some Denazification. whistle

This is Ques March Madness Month. Didnt Q say to watch the news this week, just about now 4 years ago? A 4 year Delta it seems to me.
Somebody, pass the popcorn please. smile
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Northman
Quite strange isn't it, that all the countries west of Russia, as soon as humanly possibly tried to join NATO and EU...
Its, like they never wanted to be slaves under an USSR clone again..


The Live Free or Die thing so many Right wingers here cling to, should probably take note..
Most people don't want to live under the boot heal of a bunch of homosexuals & atheists.





You forgot pedophiles.
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And from Ques real close bud, Dan Scovino,

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Its simply amazing how Dan's post at 8:39 matches to Ques drop 839.

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Do you trust the MSM?

HE said to see what fruit the tree produces before partaking

I dont trust them one bit. Evidently some dumbasses here still do. whistle
Originally Posted by Northman
Quite strange isn't it, that all the countries west of Russia, as soon as humanly possibly tried to join NATO and EU...
Its, like they never wanted to be slaves under an USSR clone again..


The Live Free or Die thing so many Right wingers here cling to, should probably take note..





Calledumb, is that you?

I'd say we arent too free with the amount of taxes working people have to pay to take care of your worthless drugged up and drunk dimobums, open borders, govt planned high dollar gasoline and supply chain and soon food shortages.

Do you have a clue as to the thousands welfare moms make laying on their back popping out Dimocrap POS snowflakes like you?

We used to almost get free ammo too, under Trump.

I guess this was taken a while ago. We could save more than 50% under Trump


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Dont worry, he will be back again, unless your next prick picks up about 120 million votes.

I wouldnt count on it if I were you.
Northmam, your stupid POS POTUS is saying Putin is fixing to hit us with a cyberattack. That's an act of war. Why would Putin do that when he cant even best Ukraine?

He isnt. Your deep state cabal buds may and then Bidet can lie and say it was Putin. Why?

To stop the Biden Pedophilia news from getting out.

I've been telling you pukes for years your heros were fughked up. It didnt matter to you because you're fughked up too.

Grab some popcorn and enjoy the show, you'll be able to see my words come true. You'll have a good time watching your buds get fughked too.

Now that Zelinsky has commandeered all the media outlets I have to assume he's panicking that unfavorable news is about to drop. His dictatorial actions will not bode well with his approval ratings. Likely just a few days now. He's turning out to be the Nazi thug Putin claimed he was.
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Pro-Russia newspaper released 10k deaths and 17k wounded.
But then backtracked and removed those numbers and claimed they where hacked.

Thats a 2:1 ratio for wounded to killed... most likely because they don't care about their wounded and can't treat them, evacuate them in time or have enough supplies. I have seen 4 captured Russian ambulances that where filled with ammunition.. so its not unlikely most of RA ambulances are running ammo instead of saving wounded.


But, numbers are probably just Russia Army personnel... not the Donbas and Ukraine "volunteers"..
Not to mention MIA, deserters and Captured..

So, say 50% higher number, just because Russia lies so blatantly.. probably even more.


15k KIA, 25k WIA
Thats 40K in 4 weeks..
Out of 190k... or 21% of total invasion force killed and wounded.


No wonder Russia is pulling in reserves from all over the country.


.
For what the elites did to this country, stolen elections, ripping our country apart with blm, antifa, homo agenda, destroying our education system, green energy bullchit etc etc etc. If Putin is destroying the money laundering system of the fat cat global elites, so be it. The trouble is the innocent population has to suffer too.

If it puts the screws to bitme, power to him.
“ he can’t even best Ukraine “

Finally something true from U


Day 5?
This is looking more and more like the Chechen rebellion.

Russia went in there and flattened everything. Ukraine will suffer the same fate unless they wise up.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
This is looking more and more like the Chechen rebellion.

Russia went in there and flattened everything. Ukraine will suffer the same fate unless they wise up.


Basically you're saying -

Quintus:
People should know when they are conquered.

Maximus:
Would you, Quintus? Would I?

Wise up and do what exactly? Just give in to someone who's been considered a world superpower, even tho you've killed 10k of them in a month? If they were getting steam rolled - I'd believe pressing for peace would be prudent but they're not.
Me thinks the problem here is as follows

The Putin puffters de humanized his foe to not have to feel empathy 4 the under Dawg

But the scoundrels are performing superhuman in battle
A lot people need to realize that Ukraines corruption is a direct byproduct of Soviet/Russian influence. They literally had a pro-Russian puppet for a president less than 10 years ago. Just like people thought Trump would drain the swamp here yet it got pretty much nowhere, same can be said for Ukraine.

Acting like the people's should roll over and take it is about as in American an idea as I've heard in years.
It’s funny this u krane president is a rich actor with dubious past



Ronald Regan was rich actor with dubious past


A deevorced ex democrat


Originally Posted by Teal
Wise up and do what exactly? Just give in to someone who's been considered a world superpower, even tho you've killed 10k of them in a month? If they were getting steam rolled - I'd believe pressing for peace would be prudent but they're not.
I don't think that death count is correct. But Mariupol is getting flattened by Ukrainian admission. How flat do they want it?
Yeah he's going to surrender as soon as your check from the Kremlin gets deposited.
Originally Posted by Angus1895
“ he can’t even best Ukraine “

Finally something true from U


Day 5?


Hilarious !
It can be simultaneously true that

1) Russia is the aggressor
2) Russia's invasion is not legitimate and UKR should be allowed to live free of them
3) Putin is an evil man
4) we should arm UKR sufficiently for them to eject the Russian invaders
5) that Zelensky is not precisely a choir boy in his dealings
6) the UKR government engaged in a lot of corruption and money laundering for American politicians, which I can understand as a strategy to ingratiate themselves with needed allies, but is still wrong, especially when it impacts my life (personal economic ruin caused by the candidate they preferred)
7) there is something creepy about Zelensky's manner at times
8) UKR should not have engaged in any money laundering / corruption schemes with dirtbags like the Bidens as a way to curry favor, it does not seem to be helping them anyway (the potato didn't start providing aid until Europe shamed him into it)
9) Zelensky is doing a good job keeping morale up, and reminding the west what real masculine determination looks like
10) Appeasement of aggressive empire builders like Putin almost always ends badly
11) It is unfortunate, but I doubt any of the lessons that need to be learned from this episode will be learned by the people who need to learn them
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.
I just don't understand the logic behind the thought that Putin had the right to invade Ukraine because he felt threatened by them wanting to join NATO. Maybe he had the right to feel threatened, but I don't see as he had any right to invade them. The NATO thing was just an excuse to take over Ukraine, just as he wants to take over the other former Soviet countries. Anyone who can't see that is wearing blinders.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.



Why are they shelling civilian population centers if the goal is destroying Ukrainian Armed Forces?
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Teal
Wise up and do what exactly? Just give in to someone who's been considered a world superpower, even tho you've killed 10k of them in a month? If they were getting steam rolled - I'd believe pressing for peace would be prudent but they're not.
I don't think that death count is correct. But Mariupol is getting flattened by Ukrainian admission. How flat do they want it?


That death count is from Pravda - they posted it and then redacted but not before it was archived. It's the Russian death count as reported by Russian propaganda arm so it's likely actually higher.

As to Mariupol - one city taking damage in a war for territory the size of TX - a city not occupied by the aggressor.

So I ask - AGAIN - what is Ukraine supposed to do - exactly. Unconditional surrender to a force so weak and incompetent that they've been stymied for a month when they thought it would be over in 3 days?
Originally Posted by Teal


So I ask - AGAIN - what is Ukraine supposed to do - exactly. Unconditional surrender to a force so weak and incompetent that they've been stymied for a month when they thought it would be over in 3 days?


That is a damn good question.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.



Why are they shelling civilian population centers if the goal is destroying Ukrainian Armed Forces?


I would guess it's because all those civilians are the ones causing the massive Russian casualties. wink
Mary pool would connect the dumbass region and crimea?


I think they take it they will de escalate
I’m quite certain I read here on the fire how Russia wasn’t going to damage Ukraine. This was a different type of war; they were merely going to take over the country. The supposition went that they didn’t want to have to rebuild, they only wanted the oil, so they weren’t going to destroy infrastructure and cities. I think there was even a video.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?
It's like a cold warrior Battle of Britain wet dream around this joint!
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
I’m quite certain I read here on the fire how Russia wasn’t going to damage Ukraine. This was a different type of war; they were merely going to take over the country. The supposition went that they didn’t want to have to rebuild, they only wanted the oil, so they weren’t going to destroy infrastructure and cities. I think there was even a video.


That’s exactly what you read by the Putinites here.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I just don't understand the logic behind the thought that Putin had the right to invade Ukraine because he felt threatened by them wanting to join NATO. Maybe he had the right to feel threatened, but I don't see as he had any right to invade them. The NATO thing was just an excuse to take over Ukraine, just as he wants to take over the other former Soviet countries. Anyone who can't see that is wearing blinders.


Exactly.
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?


Russia isn't too worried about Estonia and Latvia. NATO cannot realistically defend those countries without resorting to nukes.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I just don't understand the logic behind the thought that Putin had the right to invade Ukraine because he felt threatened by them wanting to join NATO. Maybe he had the right to feel threatened, but I don't see as he had any right to invade them. The NATO thing was just an excuse to take over Ukraine, just as he wants to take over the other former Soviet countries. Anyone who can't see that is wearing blinders.

There are some Putin ass kissers here.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.



Why are they shelling civilian population centers if the goal is destroying Ukrainian Armed Forces?


Fake news. So you also think Assad gassed his people to turn the world against him while fighting like hell to survive Obama's and the NWOs ISIS creation?

UFR.

The same people who destroyed a wealthy civilized country called Lybia is trying to destroy Ukraine. Our US Billions arent going to the people there to help businesses, it's going to the elite NWO cabal scum and to people like Hunter and Zero and Piglosi and Hillary.

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Are these your buds, John?

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The truth is going to come out and you are going to be proven wrong.

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Originally Posted by JamesJr
I just don't understand the logic behind the thought that Putin had the right to invade Ukraine because he felt threatened by them wanting to join NATO. Maybe he had the right to feel threatened, but I don't see as he had any right to invade them. The NATO thing was just an excuse to take over Ukraine, just as he wants to take over the other former Soviet countries. Anyone who can't see that is wearing blinders.
I don't think there's a whole lot of people saying that. But what is being said is that if you supported the US invasion of Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. you might be a hypocrite.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?


Russia isn't too worried about Estonia and Latvia. NATO cannot realistically defend those countries without resorting to nukes.


Yeah.

The Crimea and Georgia were real threats also?

There’s a pattern here.
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?


Russia isn't too worried about Estonia and Latvia. NATO cannot realistically defend those countries without resorting to nukes.


Yeah.

The Crimea and Georgia were real threats also?

There’s a pattern here.


Low-hanging fruit. Historical precedence. Call it what you want.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?


Russia isn't too worried about Estonia and Latvia. NATO cannot realistically defend those countries without resorting to nukes.


Yeah.

The Crimea and Georgia were real threats also?

There’s a pattern here.


Low-hanging fruit. Historical precedence. Call it what you want.



Call it what it is.

Based on Putin’s recent history go tell the former SSR Nations that all is well, no worries.
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?


Russia isn't too worried about Estonia and Latvia. NATO cannot realistically defend those countries without resorting to nukes.


Yeah.

The Crimea and Georgia were real threats also?

There’s a pattern here.


Low-hanging fruit. Historical precedence. Call it what you want.



Call it what it is.

Based on Putin’s recent history go tell the former SSR Nations that all is well, no worries.


Russia logically wanted a buffer between itself and NATO. They got it in Georgia and Belarus, now they're taking care of Ukraine. The Baltics are probably inconsequential in the bigger scheme of things, but who knows?
Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I just don't understand the logic behind the thought that Putin had the right to invade Ukraine because he felt threatened by them wanting to join NATO. Maybe he had the right to feel threatened, but I don't see as he had any right to invade them. The NATO thing was just an excuse to take over Ukraine, just as he wants to take over the other former Soviet countries. Anyone who can't see that is wearing blinders.

There are some Putin ass kissers here.


That’s simple.. Putin didn’t want Ukraine in NATO ..
Now it’s only Hard to Fathom if you don’t know the Story behind NWO..
NATO is an Instrument of the NWO …
Putin was already facing a Color Revolution within Russia by Oligarchs who had aligned themselves with NWO ..
So Ukraine was an obvious Threat to Putin given all the Unsavory Activities of the NWO types aimed at the Underbelly of Russia..
Dump Putin and Reap the Rewards of Russia Resources..
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?


Russia isn't too worried about Estonia and Latvia. NATO cannot realistically defend those countries without resorting to nukes.


Yeah.

The Crimea and Georgia were real threats also?

There’s a pattern here.


Low-hanging fruit. Historical precedence. Call it what you want.



Call it what it is.

Based on Putin’s recent history go tell the former SSR Nations that all is well, no worries.


Russia logically wanted a buffer between itself and NATO. They got it in Georgia and Belarus, now they're taking care of Ukraine. The Baltics are probably inconsequential in the bigger scheme of things, but who knows?




I’ll ask you again. Pay attention and quit deflecting.

If a buffer with NATO is the issue, then how many NATO Nations does Russia have after absorbing the Ukraine?

Look at the map if you need help.
Absorbing Ukraine.....


Shït...you guys are ate up with the CNN narrative.
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?


Russia isn't too worried about Estonia and Latvia. NATO cannot realistically defend those countries without resorting to nukes.


Yeah.

The Crimea and Georgia were real threats also?

There’s a pattern here.


Low-hanging fruit. Historical precedence. Call it what you want.



Call it what it is.

Based on Putin’s recent history go tell the former SSR Nations that all is well, no worries.


Russia logically wanted a buffer between itself and NATO. They got it in Georgia and Belarus, now they're taking care of Ukraine. The Baltics are probably inconsequential in the bigger scheme of things, but who knows?




I’ll ask you again. Pay attention and quit deflecting.

If a buffer with NATO is the issue, then how many NATO Nations does Russia have after absorbing the Ukraine?

Look at the map if you need help.


I just gave you the rundown. Do the math.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
[quote=PrimeBeef]Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.



Why are they shelling civilian population centers if the goal is destroying Ukrainian Armed Forces?[/q
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Because there are Ukrainian artillery outposts, other firing strong points and Ukrainian militia located in residential areas but you won't hear of it on the fake "news" stations Keep watching FAKE msm and you will certainly be brain washed if you believe their BS!.

How many civilian casualties were caused by US in Vietnam, Iraq and other countries that never attacked us or declared war on us? Could you distinguish between S Vietnamese civilians and Viet Cong guerrillas? No, wait until he fires on you or throws a grenade.That's war and war is hell. I laugh when I hear the words "brutal" and "atrocities", when that's the very nature of war.

We and the British burned to death 30,000 German civilians during the Dresden firing bombing on several successive raids in 1945. Hamburg maybe worse. Not to mention killing 100,000 or more Japanese in Curtiis LeMay's B-29 fire bombing of Tokyo in March 1945. I could go on ad nauseam. We were in declared war's then but tell that to the innocent civilians, I don't think it would matter much to them.
U make sense tree mutt

I can’t believe the people who want our armed forces to act like police 👮‍♀️ with a half assed no fly zone defund the regular police at home.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Houston_2
[quote=PrimeBeef]Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


And if Russia takes the Ukraine how many NATO Nations do they now have on “their borders “?

So now we have yet another “existential threat”?


Yeah.

The Crimea and Georgia were real threats also?

There’s a pattern here.


Low-hanging fruit. Historical precedence. Call it what you want.



Call it what it is.

Based on Putin’s recent history go tell the former SSR Nations that all is well, no worries.


Russia logically wanted a buffer between itself and NATO. They got it in Georgia and Belarus, now they're taking care of Ukraine. The Baltics are probably inconsequential in the bigger scheme of things, but who knows?




I’ll ask you again. Pay attention and quit deflecting.

If a buffer with NATO is the issue, then how many NATO Nations does Russia have after absorbing the Ukraine?

Look at the map if you need help.


I just gave you the rundown. Do the math.


Another nice deflection.

You’re batting 1000 so far,,with strikeouts.
Too difficult for you, Houston? Try using your fingers.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Too difficult for you, Houston? Try using your fingers.


He thinks they are coming for Alaska next.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Too difficult for you, Houston? Try using your fingers.


More deflection but that’s your standard. Stick to it.
Originally Posted by TreeMutt
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Russia sees the continued NATO (i.e. U.S.) encroachment in the Ukraine as an existential threat. They aren't going to stop until the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, even if they lose 50k+ troops doing it.


Why are they shelling civilian population centers if the goal is destroying Ukrainian Armed Forces?

Because there are Ukrainian artillery outposts, other firing strong points and Ukrainian militia located in residential areas but you won't hear of it on the fake "news" stations Keep watching FAKE msm and you will certainly be brain washed if you believe their BS!..


I don't need to watch MSN to understand there will be defensive Ukraine positions inside the Ukraine cities to which the Russians are laying seige.

Defending a city from invading Hordes is going to require guns pointed outward.

The random shelling of civilian population centers dispels any notion Putin is anything but a thug.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I don't need to watch MSN to understand there will be defensive Ukraine positions inside the Ukraine cities to which the Russians are laying seige.

Defending a city from invading Hordes is going to require guns pointed outward.

The random shelling of civilian population centers dispels any notion Putin is anything but a thug.

LOL! I'm sure you'd do sooo much better! laugh
This one hasn’t aged well. whistle
It is not Zelensky's call. It is Globohomo's call. As long as Globohomo/ZOG/Biden & Co want this to last, it will last...until facts on the ground become irrefutable.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I don't need to watch MSN to understand there will be defensive Ukraine positions inside the Ukraine cities to which the Russians are laying seige.

Defending a city from invading Hordes is going to require guns pointed outward.

The random shelling of civilian population centers dispels any notion Putin is anything but a thug.

LOL! I'm sure you'd do sooo much better! laugh


I’m sure he would do better. If John was a freedom-hating murderous thug that is.

He couldn’t do much WORSE than Pooter has done, this much is certain.

The real question is, compared to Zelinskyy, how would Bone Spurs have done if he’d been president of Ukraine? Lol at the very notion. He’d be golfing somewhere warm and safe and railing “bravely” on the Internet.

Zelenskyy is far more representative of genuine American values than many here are. Fact.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O

Zelenskyy is far more representative of genuine American values than many here are. Fact.


I normally forgo any direct personal invective when discussing world events...

But you are insane.
"The real question is, compared to Zelinskyy, how would Bone Spurs have done if he’d been president of Ukraine? Lol at the very notion. He’d be golfing somewhere warm and safe and railing “bravely” on the Internet. "

You fail[again] to recognize that Zelinsky had no, as in zero issues r.e. Putin when ol "Bone Spurs" was potus.

Under which POTUS was Zelinsky and Ukraine better off?

You really[REALLY] aught to try thinking about things before you type as opposed to coming here and spouting what your handlers[MSM, etc] tell you to think.
JeffO the drug addled draft dodging idiot pretending he understand war and combat. lmao. Of course Jeffo the hoo hating anti semite would think a failed comedian who stole more than a billion dollars in US payer aid to Ukraine and funded the AZOV NAZi brigade is someone to admire.



Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I don't need to watch MSN to understand there will be defensive Ukraine positions inside the Ukraine cities to which the Russians are laying seige.

Defending a city from invading Hordes is going to require guns pointed outward.

The random shelling of civilian population centers dispels any notion Putin is anything but a thug.

LOL! I'm sure you'd do sooo much better! laugh


I’m sure he would do better. If John was a freedom-hating murderous thug that is.

He couldn’t do much WORSE than Pooter has done, this much is certain.

The real question is, compared to Zelinskyy, how would Bone Spurs have done if he’d been president of Ukraine? Lol at the very notion. He’d be golfing somewhere warm and safe and railing “bravely” on the Internet.

Zelenskyy is far more representative of genuine American values than many here are. Fact.

Sodomy and incest is Jeff-O's American values.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Sodomy and incest is Jeff-O's American values.


Some of you Putinites have a unhealthy facination with Butt Sex between men.

It's pretty creepy in political discussions.

Maybe take your desires to PM for the like minded?
All Zelensky has to do is say they will be neutral. The blood is on his hands.
Originally Posted by rainshot
All Zelensky has to do is say they will be neutral. The blood is on his hands.


Please cite Official Russian Policy stating thus and be sure to include exact definition of "neutral"

Thanks.
Good thing some posters weren't w Washington, or D Day, etc.
Originally Posted by rainshot
All Zelensky has to do is say they will be neutral. The blood is on his hands.


That is the most "she shouldn't have worn that dress" BS ever.

Congratulations.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Sodomy and incest is Jeff-O's American values.


Some of you Putinites have a unhealthy facination with Butt Sex between men.

It's pretty creepy in political discussions.

Maybe take your desires to PM for the like minded?
I really didn't expect you to be yellow.
Right now, I'm trying to get my neighbor to sue the local schools over their LGBT indoctrination after his 10 yo daughter was molested by an older neighbor girl.

Can you imagine the spite I feel for you at this moment?
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Sodomy and incest is Jeff-O's American values.


Some of you Putinites have a unhealthy facination with Butt Sex between men.

It's pretty creepy in political discussions.

Maybe take your desires to PM for the like minded?
I really didn't expect you to be yellow.
Right now, I'm trying to get my neighbor to sue the local schools over their LGBT indoctrination after his 10 yo daughter was molested by an older neighbor girl.

Can you imagine the spite I feel for you at this moment?


Again take you facinations to PM or start another thread.

Your estrogen fueled rant has no place in this discussion nor your personal attacks based on other thing in your life.

Grow the F up.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Again take you facinations to PM or start another thread.

Your estrogen fueled rant has no place in this discussion nor your personal attacks based on other thing in your life.

Grow the F up.
So, you are a MIC and a LGBT apologist.

It's tough to think of any lower scum. Your very name will become an insult.
Originally Posted by rainshot
All Zelensky has to do is say they will be neutral. The blood is on his hands.


Sounds like Russia is an domestic abuser... "Do as I say..... See, you are making me have to hit you"


Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Again take you facinations to PM or start another thread.

Your estrogen fueled rant has no place in this discussion nor your personal attacks based on other thing in your life.

Grow the F up.
So, you are a MIC and a LGBT apologist.

It's tough to think of any lower scum. Your very name will become an insult.


Look Kiddo,

You're in way over your head in these discussions so you go to personal attacks and attempt to change the subject.

Take a breather.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Again take you facinations to PM or start another thread.

Your estrogen fueled rant has no place in this discussion nor your personal attacks based on other thing in your life.

Grow the F up.
So, you are a MIC and a LGBT apologist.

It's tough to think of any lower scum. Your very name will become an insult.
Look Kiddo,

You're in over way your head in these discussions so you go to personal attacks and attempt to change the subject.

Take a breather.
Oh, shut TFU. I've had it with you. You need to think about your life in a little more detail. Hint: It's not all about money. Once you realize that you can stop whoring for all the perverts. You know, when you do that you become one of them.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Look Kiddo,

You're in over way your head in these discussions so you go to personal attacks and attempt to change the subject.

Take a breather.
Oh, shut TFU. I've had it with you. You need to think about your life in a little more detail. Hint: It's not all about money. Once you realize that you can stop whoring for all the perverts. You know, when you do that you become one of them.


Take your LGBT whine somewhere else.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]
Please, whore.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I don't need to watch MSN to understand there will be defensive Ukraine positions inside the Ukraine cities to which the Russians are laying seige.

Defending a city from invading Hordes is going to require guns pointed outward.

The random shelling of civilian population centers dispels any notion Putin is anything but a thug.

LOL! I'm sure you'd do sooo much better! laugh


I’m sure he would do better. If John was a freedom-hating murderous thug that is.

He couldn’t do much WORSE than Pooter has done, this much is certain.

The real question is, compared to Zelinskyy, how would Bone Spurs have done if he’d been president of Ukraine? Lol at the very notion. He’d be golfing somewhere warm and safe and railing “bravely” on the Internet.

Zelenskyy is far more representative of genuine American values than many here are. Fact.


finally dawns on me, your sock puppet is SA Charlie. Both worthless POS.
Sooooooo


Is he throwing a towel


Or a big ass victory party?


Day 12?
Originally Posted by Angus1895
Sooooooo


Is he throwing a towel


Or a big ass victory party?


Day 12?


Stolen from Strider1

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Burns thinks he's brilliant playing checkers during a chess match..... smile
Originally Posted by Jcubed
Good thing some posters weren't w Washington, or D Day, etc.



Equating that POS Zalinsky with Washington? Equating this squabble with D-Day?

I'd laugh, but I really think you believe that. So disgusting it's not even funny.
Originally Posted by irfubar
Burns thinks he's brilliant playing checkers during a chess match..... smile


He never was the brightest bulb but

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Turn out the lights………





The party’s over………


Better throw in that towel my friend……

Let’s call it a night….


The party’s over ….


And tomorrow starts the same ol thing again.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jcubed
Good thing some posters weren't w Washington, or D Day, etc.



Equating that POS Zalinsky with Washington? Equating this squabble with D-Day?

I'd laugh, but I really think you believe that. So disgusting it's not even funny.


The "conservative" view is to be pro regime change and pro endless war.

Just like Don Lemmon.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jcubed
Good thing some posters weren't w Washington, or D Day, etc.



Equating that POS Zalinsky with Washington? Equating this squabble with D-Day?

I'd laugh, but I really think you believe that. So disgusting it's not even funny.


Death toll on D-Day + 30 was quite a bit lighter.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jcubed
Good thing some posters weren't w Washington, or D Day, etc.



Equating that POS Zalinsky with Washington? Equating this squabble with D-Day?

I'd laugh, but I really think you believe that. So disgusting it's not even funny.


The "conservative" view is to be pro regime change and pro endless war.

Just like Don Lemmon.



And Biden.

I truly am surprised at the support the NWO has here.

When things get hot on this side of the pond, the numbers won't be what they ought, or what I thought they'd be.
Zelinsky is a puppet, who along with dementia Joe are in over their heads, and are trying to start WWIII.

Zelinsky is no hero, not even close. All he had to do was let Donbas vote for who they want to be part of. Problem solved.

No, this is way more hideous.

Never in the history of this country, has a president taken a swipe at the leader of another nuclear power.

Putin isn't some third world despot dictator. He commands the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

He's no angel, but the people around him are far worse and more aggressive.

You better be careful what you wish for, because another Lenin, or Stalin could be waiting in the wings.
Originally Posted by deadlift_dude
It is not Zelensky's call. It is Globohomo's call. As long as Globohomo/ZOG/Biden & Co want this to last, it will last...until facts on the ground become irrefutable.




Ivan may end up with a say in that yet.
The

Z Dawg kicks ass!

Putin……..not so much!
True that and we have a mentally incompetent criminal pretending to be president.
It ain’t to late to jump on da wagon!

Z dawgs gotta eat!
Originally Posted by Angus1895
It ain’t to late to jump on da wagon!

Z dawgs gotta eat!



Bet you wish he ate more pineapple.
He eats drear


Deer face. Bear ass
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Jcubed
Good thing some posters weren't w Washington, or D Day, etc.



Equating that POS Zalinsky with Washington? Equating this squabble with D-Day?

I'd laugh, but I really think you believe that. So disgusting it's not even funny.


The "conservative" view is to be pro regime change and pro endless war.

Just like Don Lemmon.





Don LeMoan. You're cracking me up. You must have caught him assisting in the big walk back.

I was disappointed, though. He didn't follow Mr. Magoo's lead with his "I feel bad for the famblies".
Like my Polish buddies told me


American President……

They come

They go..

The Z Dawg is gonna be around a while.
Originally Posted by hicountry
Zelinsky is a puppet, who along with dementia Joe are in over their heads, and are trying to start WWIII.

Zelinsky is no hero, not even close. All he had to do was let Donbas vote for who they want to be part of. Problem solved.

No, this is way more hideous.

Never in the history of this country, has a president taken a swipe at the leader of another nuclear power.

Putin isn't some third world despot dictator. He commands the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

He's no angel, but the people around him are far worse and more aggressive.

You better be careful what you wish for, because another Lenin, or Stalin could be waiting in the wings.


Your Putin Puffting is very much Duly Noted, wipe that chin.

Most here want to see Ukraine fight to win their Freedom.

That's how real Nations are born, but it is not without risk.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by hicountry
Zelinsky is a puppet, who along with dementia Joe are in over their heads, and are trying to start WWIII.

Zelinsky is no hero, not even close. All he had to do was let Donbas vote for who they want to be part of. Problem solved.

No, this is way more hideous.

Never in the history of this country, has a president taken a swipe at the leader of another nuclear power.

Putin isn't some third world despot dictator. He commands the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

He's no angel, but the people around him are far worse and more aggressive.

You better be careful what you wish for, because another Lenin, or Stalin could be waiting in the wings.


Your Putin Puffting is very much Duly Noted, wipe that chin.

Most here want to see Ukraine fight to win their Freedom.

That's how real Nations are born, but it is not without risk.


Do you really believe that is what's happening?

Good job Psaki.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by JohnBurns


Your Putin Puffting is very much Duly Noted, wipe that chin.

Most here want to see Ukraine fight to win their Freedom.

That's how real Nations are born, but it is not without risk.


Do you really believe that is what's happening?

Good job Psaki.


Put in some effort.

Post a compelling counter argument. Trust me I will read it.

You are far from a dummy so do the work to push the discussion forward.
Hahaha!

That sweet.

You guys think this is about self determination for Ukraine?


Fight for her freedom.....that's cute.

What kind of rocket is this? The tank didn't even notice it.

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha!

That sweet.

You guys think this is about self determination for Ukraine?


Fight for her freedom.....that's cute.




Shsssh Jim, you may burst their bubble of delusion...... the MSM told them they too could be virtue signaling do gooders
Originally Posted by Whiptail

What kind of rocket is this? The tank didn't even notice it.



Might be an NLAW.

Won't arm inside 20 meters.
Originally Posted by Whiptail

What kind of rocket is this? The tank didn't even notice it.



Even an AT4 needed 10meters to arm. Most missiles need 30-40 yards minimum.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Angus1895
It ain’t to late to jump on da wagon!

Z dawgs gotta eat!



Bet you wish he ate more pineapple.



😂
Originally Posted by LBP
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Angus1895
It ain’t to late to jump on da wagon!

Z dawgs gotta eat!



Bet you wish he ate more pineapple.



😂



Somebody gonna ask....
Burns, the man with the secret sauce, that turns factory rifles into high dollar customs, just by saying so.

You're pretty clueless
Originally Posted by hicountry
Burns, the man with the secret sauce, that turns factory rifles into high dollar customs, just by saying so.

You're pretty clueless


If I gots all the Secret Sauce on Rifles how would that be clueless? grin

Sound more like ClueFull.

Don't you have a towel to "throw in"?
Originally Posted by Whiptail

What kind of rocket is this? The tank didn't even notice it.



Just an RPG. Not enough energy to penetrate armor.
Originally Posted by UncleAlps
Originally Posted by Whiptail

What kind of rocket is this? The tank didn't even notice it.



Just an RPG. Not enough energy to penetrate armor.


I imagine that’ll make their ears ring, however.

Makes me wonder how an unseasoned crew would react to something like that?
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by UncleAlps
Originally Posted by Whiptail

What kind of rocket is this? The tank didn't even notice it.



Just an RPG. Not enough energy to penetrate armor.


I imagine that’ll make their ears ring, however.

Makes me wonder how an unseasoned crew would react to something like that?


RPGs are low velocity low energy. They use a shaped charge to penetrate armor. The actual blast channel is only 1/2" to 1" wide, but can penetrate several inches of armor and kills or wounds all inside a buttoned-up vehicle. The secondary explosions sometimes are delayed while the ammo and fuel ignites.
Originally Posted by hicountry
Burns, the man with the secret sauce, that turns factory rifles into high dollar customs, just by saying so.

You're pretty clueless


is it possible to kill an elk without a $10,000 rifle? lmao
Zelenazi aint doing shyte unless it comes from Klaus Schwab, a puppet doesn't move until the master yanks the strings

....
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Swamp has it pegged.

Burns is brainwashed from watching the view......
Ribka....no Burns says $10k for a sendero with a Burns special stock, at 950 yards
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by hicountry
Burns, the man with the secret sauce, that turns factory rifles into high dollar customs, just by saying so.

You're pretty clueless


is it possible to kill an elk without a $10,000 rifle? lmao



Sure. I do it quite often.

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Lol this thread
JeffO. The drug addled draft dodger. Dd your patriotic children serve in the military too like you warriors Biden and Obama? lmao




Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I don't need to watch MSN to understand there will be defensive Ukraine positions inside the Ukraine cities to which the Russians are laying seige.

Defending a city from invading Hordes is going to require guns pointed outward.

The random shelling of civilian population centers dispels any notion Putin is anything but a thug.

LOL! I'm sure you'd do sooo much better! laugh


I’m sure he would do better. If John was a freedom-hating murderous thug that is.

He couldn’t do much WORSE than Pooter has done, this much is certain.

The real question is, compared to Zelinskyy, how would Bone Spurs have done if he’d been president of Ukraine? Lol at the very notion. He’d be golfing somewhere warm and safe and railing “bravely” on the Internet.

Zelenskyy is far more representative of genuine American values than many here are. Fact.
Another thing to consider...Say you had Joe Biden & Co. sending you a few million every couple weeks, and all you had to do to keep the money train coming, was stage a few more video horror scenes...how eager would you be to start waving white flags and stop the money transfers?
Sorry burns, but you've been drug around by the nose...

what's really going on and why
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.

My God! You knowledge is amazing - you totally nailed it.
S&P downgrades Russia’s debt to Selective Default.

Go Putin.
Originally Posted by Houston_2
S&P downgrades Russia’s debt to Selective Default.

Go Putin.


Russia STRONK.

Putin STRONK.

Buy Rubble Rubles boys, going to the MOON.
At this point, Anything except a total victory is defeat for Putin and that’s looking slimmer with each passing day.
Likely a good assessment of the current situation.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-9
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Houston_2
S&P downgrades Russia’s debt to Selective Default.

Go Putin.


Russia STRONK.

Putin STRONK.

Buy Rubble Rubles boys, going to the MOON.


I see your Cum’n around…
Originally Posted by Joezone


Fighting a war with barely equipped, barely fed and barely trained, low morale conscripts must be a hoot.....
Probably needs a bump with the sinking of the Orcs Flagship, Muskva.

Orcs must learn to swim or die
I'm looking forward to the nuke launch. Probably going to be some bio-weapon release also.

Maybe Rocket Man will get in on this too. Iran might just give the Jews a missile or three.

I'm stocked up on popcorn and salted peanuts.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Probably needs a bump with the sinking of the Orcs Flagship, Muskva.

Orcs must learn to swim or die


It’s well-known to pootin ball-cuppers that even in 54° water, that more effort and exertion can raise the body temperature enough to survive and swim like Lea Thomas to the checkered flag. All Commie navy members are trained on this.
US to Start Training Ukrainians to Use Howitzers Monday, 18 April 2022 12:28 PM https://www.newsmax.com/headline/ukraine-united-states-howitzer-training/2022/04/18/id/1066145/


Top Russian Editor: 'We Are at War With NATO' 4/18/2022 9:25:29 AM https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russia-editor-war-nato/2022/04/18/id/1066111/

Won't be long before USA boots on ground in Ukraine me thinks.

Team Brandon really really does want WW3. All to protect the NWO scheme and Brandons money laundering. And the US bio-weapon population control (Gates) interests.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.


No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.


Well, THAT didn't age well.
Dow Tumbles Nearly 1,000 Points as Stocks Extend Selloff
S&P, Nasdaq turn in weekly losses; yield on 10-year Treasury note hovers near multiyear h
igh




Biden's war on Russia and the US economy s really doing well lol




All of Biden/Zelensky ball likkers can chime in now
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.
No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.
Well, THAT didn't age well.
$15 Billion tends to keep parties going!
The biggest losers in extended warfare is the people of Ukraine.
I honestly doubt the average person is paying any attention to this anymore. It's hardly a topic of conversation I've heard since about D+5 day.

Talked to 2 guys in Guatemala today - they don't care. They're aware it happened but outside of that - they're onto other things in life.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.




The answers to that question were all right here for people in-the-know:

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Originally Posted by ribka
Dow Tumbles Nearly 1,000 Points as Stocks Extend Selloff
S&P, Nasdaq turn in weekly losses; yield on 10-year Treasury note hovers near multiyear h
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Biden's war on Russia and the US economy s really doing well lol





[Linked Image]

Terrifying!

Are you getting out of the market now? With the collapse and all?

Where to go? Bitcoin and Ivermectin futures maybe? Silver coins and Kruger Rands? Morphine and Pet Antibiotics?

What will stand the test of time?
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by ribka
Dow Tumbles Nearly 1,000 Points as Stocks Extend Selloff
S&P, Nasdaq turn in weekly losses; yield on 10-year Treasury note hovers near multiyear h
igh




Biden's war on Russia and the US economy s really doing well lol





[Linked Image]

Terrifying!

Are you getting out of the market now? With the collapse and all?

Where to go? Bitcoin and Ivermectin futures maybe? Silver coins and Kruger Rands? Morphine and Pet Antibiotics?

What will stand the test of time?





These pesky facts and longer views keep getting in the way of Armageddon next week.
Howitzer training eh? Must be easy peasey, won't take long. Probably easier than sighting in a Leupold, surely takes less ammo. Don't you just love the term friendly fire?
Invest in ammo.
Originally Posted by ribka
Dow Tumbles Nearly 1,000 Points as Stocks Extend Selloff
S&P, Nasdaq turn in weekly losses; yield on 10-year Treasury note hovers near multiyear h
igh




Biden's war on Russia and the US economy s really doing well lol




All of Biden/Zelensky ball likkers can chime in now


You conveniently left out the small part that the FED plays in this like a another 1/2% bump announced and soon to be added in May.

Try opening your eyes just a little wider and tell the whole story.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.

I’m just lol’ing at this.

Go jag!
Bump because it’s funny AF
Originally Posted by jaguartx
And Putin gets what he wants. No Bioweapons Labs.Total recognition Crimea is part of Russia and pulls his troops and leaves Ukraine independent. Putin has said all along he didnt want to take Ukraine.
It was the left and fake news who said Putin was on a March to take Europe. They did it to push for nuclear war in order to try to save their Deep State Cabal and bring in their planned economic reset. Not happening.

Now how long until we learn it was the US Neo Nazi Cabal who developed and released COVID-19 and was going to release the planned pandemic that Bill Gates predicted was going to be worse than COVID-19?

I say 4 days before Zelinskiy capitulates.

No Nuclear War to facilitate the Economic Reset so the COVID-19 narrative will soon be brought back again.

And again. Good ol’ jag.

Hey... as Friend Bayou says, at least his politics are right....
Zelinsky will escape with millions of US Tax $$$$$$ and be on a permanent ‘rest island’ with his ‘Honey’!!
Let’s just bump this again so we can all revel in jag’s amazing predictions! 😂
He'll never throw in the towel, as long as he has the whole damn world backing him up like he does.
Yep. Other than some retards here, the whole damn world knew where to fall on this one.

Bump for the humor. GREAT work, jag! Man, you can really predict stuff! Dayum, just.... dayum.

Laffin! 😂
Originally Posted by Stophel
He'll never throw in the towel, as long as he has the whole damn world backing him up like he does.

Probably so.

Russia is having a major problem with getting active soldiers in Russia to go to Ukraine. Hundreds have told the military commanders no and to go piss up a rope.

Russia cannot do a thing about it as by their own laws military members do not have to go into any conflict where no war has been declared by the motherland.

Nice.
Ooops looks like someone spoke too soon?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...day-russia-now-holds-20-ukraine-zelensky




As the Russian invasion has entered its 100th day, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has confirmed that Russian forces are now in control of 20% of Ukraine's territory.

"As of today, about 20% of our territory is under the control of the occupiers, almost 125 thousand square kilometers. This is much larger than the area of all the Benelux countries combined," he said in a virtual address before Luxembourg lawmakers.
Leave it to JeffO to believe a bullshit msm narrative
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Russia is having a major problem with getting active soldiers in Russia to go to Ukraine. Hundreds have told the military commanders no and to go piss up a rope.

Russia cannot do a thing about it as by their own laws military members do not have to go into any conflict where no war has been declared by the motherland.

Nice.
Why wouldn't they want to go? They could rape Ukrainian women! laugh
Originally Posted by irfubar
Leave it to JeffO to believe a bullshit msm narrative

Quad boosted, Fershure.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by irfubar
Leave it to JeffO to believe a bullshit msm narrative

Quad boosted, Fershure.

Good.... he will be pushing up daisies sooner rather than later
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by irfubar
Leave it to JeffO to believe a bullshit msm narrative

Quad boosted, Fershure.

Good.... he will be pushing up daisies sooner rather than later



AIDS most likely will get him first.
Even if the russkies win they will then enjoy occupying a hostile population. History has proved that to be a painful proposition for some.



mike r
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Even if the russkies win they will then enjoy occupying a hostile population. History has proved that to be a painful proposition for some.



mike r

new flash

Majority of Eastern Ukraine in the Donbass are ethnic Russians.

They're not going to occupy West Ukraine. Before the war Zelensky had about a 20 per cent approval and was generally hated and is very unpopular with the military. Plus many Ukrainians and put off by his association with AZOV NAZIs. which have assassinated journalists, political opponents and the the general populace with the open approval from the Zelensky govt. And Zelenskiy, like a true Neo NAZi just outlawed any opposition political parties.

If anything Poland will be brought in as peace keepers in West Ukraine . And the Poles remember all of the mass killings of civilians and Jews committed by the Ukraine Neo NAZIs ( AZOV NAZI now) in their country during WWII so it will be interesting
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Yep. Other than some retards here, the whole damn world knew where to fall on this one.

Bump for the humor. GREAT work, jag! Man, you can really predict stuff! Dayum, just.... dayum.

Laffin! 😂

Aren't you late for a Oregon Neo NAZI gathering Jeffy?

Are you passed out again from over dosing?
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Russia is having a major problem with getting active soldiers in Russia to go to Ukraine. Hundreds have told the military commanders no and to go piss up a rope.

Russia cannot do a thing about it as by their own laws military members do not have to go into any conflict where no war has been declared by the motherland.

Nice.
Why wouldn't they want to go? They could rape Ukrainian women! laugh

I’d guess that it’s easier to be Jody back home especially to the grieving widows.

Kinda like Hunter.
Ol Poof

at fish camp still?



Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Russia is having a major problem with getting active soldiers in Russia to go to Ukraine. Hundreds have told the military commanders no and to go piss up a rope.

Russia cannot do a thing about it as by their own laws military members do not have to go into any conflict where no war has been declared by the motherland.

Nice.
Why wouldn't they want to go? They could rape Ukrainian women! laugh

I’d guess that it’s easier to be Jody back home especially to the grieving widows.

Kinda like Hunter.
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Russia is having a major problem with getting active soldiers in Russia to go to Ukraine. Hundreds have told the military commanders no and to go piss up a rope.

Russia cannot do a thing about it as by their own laws military members do not have to go into any conflict where no war has been declared by the motherland.

Nice.
Why wouldn't they want to go? They could rape Ukrainian women! laugh

I’d guess that it’s easier to be Jody back home especially to the grieving widows.

Kinda like Hunter.



Ol toot. Jody? I see you never served in the military with that ridiculous [bleep] reference


I see Erdogan just shut down Sweden and Finland into NATO. What's your take? lol
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by irfubar
Leave it to JeffO to believe a bullshit msm narrative

Quad boosted, Fershure.

Good.... he will be pushing up daisies sooner rather than later

Tulip boosted fersure.
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Even if the russkies win they will then enjoy occupying a hostile population. History has proved that to be a painful proposition for some.



mike r

new flash

Majority of Eastern Ukraine in the Donbass are ethnic Russians.

They're not going to occupy West Ukraine. Before the war Zelensky had about a 20 per cent approval and was generally hated and is very unpopular with the military. Plus many Ukrainians and put off by his association with AZOV NAZIs. which have assassinated journalists, political opponents and the the general populace with the open approval from the Zelensky govt. And Zelenskiy, like a true Neo NAZi just outlawed any opposition political parties.

If anything Poland will be brought in as peace keepers in West Ukraine . And the Poles remember all of the mass killings of civilians and Jews committed by the Ukraine Neo NAZIs ( AZOV NAZI now) in their country during WWII so it will be interesting


This. The poor Ukrainians we've sent billions to for years have never seen a dime.

Some are stupid enough to think they love their puppetmaster govt Zero, Soros and Bidet had installed.

UFR
TTT! We duffers must always, always pay homage to the predictive powers of the amazing... the incredible.... the one and only... “4 Year Delta” jaguar!
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
TTT! We duffers must always, always pay homage to the predictive powers of the amazing... the incredible.... the one and only... “4 Year Delta” jaguar!

drug addled cowardly moron demanding Americans send their children to die for a corrupt NEO NAZI republic of Ukraine to feed our military industrial complex. Another 5 BILLION in tax payer money for Zelenskiys offshore bank accounts. What did the Neo NAZI tranny clown do with the 60 BILLION of our money to him?


Zelensky demands $5 billion from NATO, cites security in Europe
Failing to help Ukraine would result in a “delayed” war between Russia and the West, he claimed
Zelensky demands $5 billion from NATO, cites security in Europe
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky addresses a round table meeting via video link during a NATO summit in Madrid, Spain on June 29, 2022. © AP / Manu Fernandez
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has urged the US-led NATO bloc to ramp up support of his country amid the ongoing conflict with Russia, claiming that Kiev’s defeat would result in a “delayed” war between Moscow and the whole West. Zelensky made the remarks as he addressed the NATO summit in Madrid via a video link on Wednesday.


“It’s either urgent aid to Ukraine sufficient for victory, or a delayed war between Russia and you,” Zelensky told NATO leaders.
Originally Posted by irfubar
Leave it to JeffO to believe a bullshit msm narrative

I see the US Army just said it was ok now to use drugs and enlist. Waiting for Jeffo to hop on a plane and fight Pooteen
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