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Posted By: ldholton Veterans question - 05/24/22
I know we have a good number of veterans that played in the sandbox of various locations. A lot of Vietnam vets and I'm sure quite a few Korean vets. Is there any world war II vets currently on here? They're getting some age to them we all know this just kind of curious is all. That's of different that prefer just to remain anonymous and understand.
Posted By: OGB Re: Veterans question - 05/24/22
My favorite part of All American week in the 82d was all the WW II vets that would show up and tell stories.

Truly humbling.
Posted By: ldholton Re: Veterans question - 05/24/22
Originally Posted by OGB
My favorite part of All American week in the 82d was all the WW II vets that would show up and tell stories.

Truly humbling.
I think that's one reason I enjoy the Band of Brothers mini-series so much. The interviewing of some of the guys that were actually involved and are also kind of overseen the movie to make it as truthful as possible.
Posted By: 79S Re: Veterans question - 05/24/22
Originally Posted by ldholton
I know we have a good number of veterans that played in the sandbox of various locations. A lot of Vietnam vets and I'm sure quite a few Korean vets. Is there any world war II vets currently on here? They're getting some age to them we all know this just kind of curious is all. That's of different that prefer just to remain anonymous and understand.

The youngest a world war 2 vet would be 96yrs old that’s if they were 18 joined in 1944. Korean War vet if they joined in 1952 at 18 would be around 88yrs old. Vietnam vets if they joined in 1968 would be 72yrs. So soon their will be no more world war 2 vets left followed by Korea war vets. Next group Vietnam vets youngest are around 65-66 yeah sure you have Vietnam vets who as you know are 58 lol. (It’s a joke)
Posted By: ldholton Re: Veterans question - 05/24/22
I wish I had learned or quiz my granddad more before he passed away of his experience during world war II. The best of my knowledge he was the mechanic or that was his first job on a bomber crew on bombing missions over France and Germany. I guess he would have been a technical Sergeant is my understanding.
Posted By: ldholton Re: Veterans question - 05/24/22
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by ldholton
I know we have a good number of veterans that played in the sandbox of various locations. A lot of Vietnam vets and I'm sure quite a few Korean vets. Is there any world war II vets currently on here? They're getting some age to them we all know this just kind of curious is all. That's of different that prefer just to remain anonymous and understand.

The youngest a world war 2 vet would be 96yrs old that’s if they were 18 joined in 1944. Korean War vet if they joined in 1952 at 18 would be around 88yrs old. Vietnam vets if they joined in 1968 would be 72yrs. So soon their will be no more world war 2 vets left followed by Korea war vets. Next group Vietnam vets youngest are around 65-66 yeah sure you have Vietnam vets who as you know are 58 lol. (It’s a joke)
Yes that was the reason for my question just really curious I know the remaining living world war II vets are dwindling rapidly. Yeah I get the job too trust me I'm in that age range that some of them want to talk about that but we also know we was kids. I remember many of the events of Vietnam as per on the news and I have family members that were there.
Posted By: 79S Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
Then you have my age group from the Iraq war 2003-2010. At the height of the war the surge in 06-07 around 150k boots on the ground. That’s not counting all the support folks in Kuwait. An 18yr old who went off to fight in Iraq 2003 is now 37. An 18yr old who joined in 98 and went to Iraq in 2003 is now 42. Then you have that group that joined the Army or other branches in 1981- and up at 18 shipped off to Iraq in 03 who were dang near 40yrs old when they got to Iraq. That group of OIF 1 vets are 60 plus yrs old now. In some cases 65..
Posted By: ldholton Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
Originally Posted by 79S
Then you have my age group from the Iraq war 2003-2010. At the height of the war the surge in 06-07 around 150k boots on the ground. That’s not counting all the support folks in Kuwait. An 18yr old who went off to fight in Iraq 2003 is now 37. An 18yr old who joined in 98 and went to Iraq in 2003 is now 42. Then you have that group that joined the Army or other branches in 1981- and up at 18 shipped off to Iraq in 03 who were dang near 40yrs old when they got to Iraq. That group of OIF 1 vets are 60 plus yrs old now. In some cases 65..
Yes as a whole my age group the things in the world were fairly quiet small deals or unspeakable deals. But desert Storm was the first bigger deal in some years
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
There were quite a few kids under 18 who fought in both WWII and Korea. We just buried a guy who was killed in Korea in 1950 at age 17. I had an uncle who enlisted in the navy at 16 and was at Pearl Harbor. He loved navy life and spend 35 years at it.
Posted By: BeardedGunsmith Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
There's a good YouTube channel that's nothing but WWII soldiers when they were still alive recounting their time over seas along with great narration. I'm not sure but it might be called War Diaries?
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
My neighbor is a Korea vet.

He falls down once in a while and I go pick him up.
Posted By: EdM Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
My Father was a Korean War vet and, if still alive, he would be turning 92 on June 6th.
Posted By: marktheshark Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
Dad at 73 is Nam Vet....Grandad was a WW2 vet who passed away at 87 but if still around would be 102 on June 14.
Posted By: Seafire Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
I served my country, but was never sent into harms way....

I have the greatest respects for those that had to put their ass on the line, for our nation...

Have many relatives that have served in combat and some that did not make it back home during WW 2...
and some in WW 1...

even back to the civil war, serving the South in the Army of Northern Virginia...

No greater honor than to serving our nation...

and only about 1 out of a 100 have done so in my adult lifetime....

a salute of respect to each of those...
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
My dad was in Vietnam and would be 87 if he was still alive. Someone who enlisted at 18 in 1945 would be 95 today. They're getting harder and harder to find. God bless them all.
Posted By: deflave Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
Queen Elizabeth is the only living head of state that served in World War II.

I sincerely doubt any of you old fugks are that old.
Posted By: troublesome82 Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
I miss the conversations with those old WWII, Korea, Viet Nam vets at our reunions and miss the good friends I served with. The stories those boys had were something else. I was pall bearer last June at a Viet Nam Ranger, BDQ, Karl Fee, up in Ladysmith! He was just a little guy, and his casket made from trees on his property was one heavy SOB! Some of the Rangers, SF he served with in Nam , I served with several years later. I have known some heroes, I am not one myself!
Posted By: OGB Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
Originally Posted by deflave
Queen Elizabeth is the only living head of state that served in World War II.

I sincerely doubt any of you old fugks are that old.
I think she is the longest running head of state in history.
Posted By: Mike_S Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
I’m 62 and remember people who were in WWI. As time rolls on we will lose them all (WWII).
Posted By: ldholton Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
Originally Posted by Mike_S
I’m 62 and remember people who were in WWI. As time rolls on we will lose them all (WWII).
Yes , my dad had an uncle I remember quite well as a kid that was in world war I, he got a metal plate in his head for his efforts...
Posted By: AdventureBound Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
My father’s older brother was killed in the Philippines during the Battle of Leyte. Homer died on 14 Dec 1944. He had turned 20 just seven weeks earlier. Rumor says that his unit ran out of ammo.

My father enlisted in summer 1946 after he graduated high school; he was stationed near Tokyo, serving in the Army Air Force. Fortunately, Japan had surrendered before Dad entered the service. Dad returned safely home after three years. He is the guy wearing the red shirt in my photo.

Mom’s uncle was stationed at Pearl Harbor. He survived. He always told how the night before the attack, the Japanese bar owners were giving away all the beer you could drink - they knew the attack was coming and they wanted the soldiers to be hung over.
Posted By: RS308MX Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
Originally Posted by EdM
My Father was a Korean War vet and, if still alive, he would be turning 92 on June 6th.

My dad fought in Korea also. Army, 1st Lieutenant. He died in 1998 of lung cancer. He would have turned 94 this year.
Posted By: Offshoreman Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
Sad for my group is that the Vietnam veterans are dying at a much faster rate than the WW2 & Korean veterans and the VA/military does not know why.
Posted By: m_stevenson Re: Veterans question - 05/25/22
My Dad turns 90 this next month. He is a combat wounded Korean War Veteran.
He probably hasn’t spoken five paragraphs about his experiences. I am so lucky to still have him.
Mark
Posted By: kennymauser Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
I turned 21 in my fifth week of basic training in 1967 (Air Force) I was one of the oldest guys I worked with the whole time I was in. I remember that I was older than the co-pilot on my Blind Bat crew in Thailand.
I am 76 and probably in the older Viet Nam Vet group.
I still know a few of the WWII vets still living.
Posted By: batch Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
Vietnam era vet but saw it from Hickam. Enjoyed the Iran\Iraq war from Bahrain long before Desert Shield, and then Desert Storm. Was in Africa and SW Asia in 88, 89. 90,91, and 92 but got tired of it and retired in 93. Never shot at but drew hazardous duty pay many times. I'd thought the USAF was much calmer, until it wasn't. A tiny cog in a big machine.
Posted By: ldholton Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
Originally Posted by batch
Vietnam era vet but saw it from Hickam. Enjoyed the Iran\Iraq war from Bahrain long before Desert Shield, and then Desert Storm. Was in Africa and SW Asia in 88, 89. 90,91, and 92 but got tired of it and retired in 93. Never shot at but drew hazardous duty pay many times. I'd thought the USAF was much calmer, until it wasn't. A tiny cog in a big machine.
Yes thank you for that I'm glad you mentioned this there was much more action during the calm time than most people realized. Much of this was let's just say off the books too
Posted By: scrooster Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
Originally Posted by OGB
My favorite part of All American week in the 82d was all the WW II vets that would show up and tell stories.

Truly humbling.

Your favorite part of AA week (that your dad took you to during his last years) was blowing corp legs under the bleachers on mahogany row parade grounds.

Here's a clue for you to track me down you uniform burning f@gg0+ mother fuquer ... I was NCO of the Year and Jumpin' Jim Gavin (think Robert Redford) pinned my MSM on me on the podium during AA Week, before the parade (name the parade grounds f@gg0t) ... and here's another clue ... James J Lindsey was Division CG.
Posted By: Jim270 Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
Originally Posted by SCRooster
Originally Posted by OGB
My favorite part of All American week in the 82d was all the WW II vets that would show up and tell stories.

Truly humbling.

Your favorite part of AA week (that your dad took you to during his last years) was blowing corp legs under the bleachers on mahogany row parade grounds.

Here's a clue for you to track me down you uniform burning f@gg0+ mother fuquer ... I was NCO of the Year and Jumpin' Jim Gavin (think Robert Redford) pinned my MSM on me on the podium during AA Week, before the parade (name the parade grounds f@gg0t) ... and here's another clue ... James J Lindsey was Division CG.
The training flick your referencing would be Ryan O'Neil, not Robert Redford, he was Maj Julian Cook.
Posted By: logger Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
My dad was orphaned at 11 in Conroe Texas and joined the Navy in 1944. He was barely 17 years old. He tended an engine on a LSM in the Pacific.
Posted By: ldholton Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
Originally Posted by logger
My dad was orphaned at 11 in Conroe Texas and joined the Navy in 1944. He was barely 17 years old. He tended an engine on a LSM in the Pacific.
This is right here is true the kind of stuff that makes you pause and think and look at our youth we have today....
Posted By: dodgefan Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
Had a great uncle in the 82nd he fought in Italy and jumped into Market Garden and 3 or 4 others that were in the Marine Corp. I'm pretty sure one of the Marine Corp vets is still alive, but it's been well over 30 years since I've seen him.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
The generation of WW2 vets were volunteering to go fight. A personal friend said he and his buddies wanted to go kick some ass and get it over with.
Posted By: scrooster Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
Originally Posted by Jim270
The training flick your referencing would be Ryan O'Neil, not Robert Redford, he was Maj Julian Cook.

Well done and you are 110% correct. Cudos ... nod to you.

Redford was Bridge Too Far ... O'Neal was Longest Day.

Wait, I may have that backwards. Vice versa I think. I dunno. Can't remember. Drinking and watching Guifeld.

Wait, were they both in Bridge Too Far?

Hold on.

Robert Redford ... Ryan O'Neal ...

Was it Robert Ryan? Longest Day? Jumpin' Jim Gavin?

I can't remember. My Mom got his autograph that day ... it's in the 82nd Album. I probably have a picture somewhere. I'll find it.

Robert Ryan ... strange how my incredibly ultra superior mind works. It's always been this way. Well, since I was maybe 8 months old at least, back in the 50s, watching my Dad come to bat behind the backstop while my Mom passed me around to the other wives and they all had me waving at my Dad when he came to bat ... he waved back .... I remember things. Lately they're just not as picturesque as they used to be. The memories.

Thanks for correcting me brother.

They used to wonder at me calling fire missions in my head ... they still talk about it. It wasn't that I did the calculations in my head ... it was that I could see the fire tables in my head. We always won our ARTEPS.

ANYWAYS ... Robert Ryan.

General Gavin was bald when he pinned my MSM on me ... and THE most distinguished human being I have ever been face-to-face with in my entire life. He was also on my bird with me when I made my VIP jump along with CSM Berry and Barajas, LTC Mad Jack Hamilton, Strom Thurmond (who had come up when he heard because he was a friend of the family and also served in the 2/325) and a couple of others ... Gavin was like a God though. I'll never forget him. He was ten feet tall. He rode alongside Lindsey in a Wiley jeep ... he must have been 6'6" or taller because I'm 6'3" and Lindsey had to be at least 6'2" or so .... I dunno. 20something kid seeing him .... looking into his eyes when he pinned that MSM on me .... I dunno. I dunno how to explain it. I have not been an impressionable man. My Dad impressed me ... my wife ... a friend or two plus some guys I served with .... but James Gavin. I always felt like I was in the presence of an Arch Angel at the time. I took it very seriously.

Generational thing I guess ... things have changed. Hard to explain.
Posted By: Jim270 Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
My Dad was stationed in Germany during the Korean conflict, at one point in time he was driving a jeep for Gen. Gavin. I myself never saw him, but shook hands with G.S. Meloy when I ETSed out of Division. Roscoe Robinson was the CG when I first got there.
Posted By: scrooster Re: Veterans question - 05/26/22
Originally Posted by Jim270
My Dad was stationed in Germany during the Korean conflict, at one point in time he was driving a jeep for Gen. Gavin. I myself never saw him, but shook hands with G.S. Meloy when I ETSed out of Division. Roscoe Robinson was the CG when I first got there.

Gen Roscoe was a great guy ... first African American CG of Divison and I think he ended up at Corp too. I think he came right after Lindsey if I remember correctly which happened right after I was reassigned to Vicenza with the Nickle Oh Nasty under Nuke'm Needham. Those days are foggy. I'll be partying with some guys at the reunion this weekend who will help me to remember and then doing the CSM golf tourney in Myrtle Beach the week of the 3rd ... Roscoe's CSM will be there, he always is. He's a libtard [bleep] but Roscoe was as conservative as they come. Come to think of it ... wait, I think Roscoe was actually CG when I arrived in 78. I get my tours confused. Roscoe ... then I left for Vicenza after Gallant Eagle under Lindsey. Returned under Foss. Went back to Vicenza under Kellogg and came back under Vines. Went back under Scaporretti and retired under Huggins.

The wife knows for sure ... but I'm pretty sure that's right.
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