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This is up in the NC mountains near Tennessee. Last week brother was weedeating. He got a tick bite on his belly. A few days later, he showed it to me. There was no "bullseye." There was a round disc. It was about 2 inch diameter, and a bright rosy red color, no kind of rings the entire disc was red. I told him to get his ass to the doc.

Four days after he got bitten, brother went to the doc. Doc said it was Lyme disease and gave brother a 14 day scrip for antibiotics.
Lyme is no problem if you get on it early.
Im on perpetual prophylaxis Doxycycline so I get secondary benefit.

Sunshine is a mfer tho 💀☠️

I can feel ticks on me asap anyway. Even those microscopic bastiges.
Yes....photosensitivity is a bitch with that stuff!
In the 90s I was in a Minneapolis based band and my rhythm guitarist came down with it. He went from being completely normal to not being able to walk down a flight of steps in about a month. He's better now but it took years. Schit is scary.
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
This is up in the NC mountains near Tennessee. Last week brother was weedeating. He got a tick bite on his belly. A few days later, he showed it to me. There was no "bullseye." There was a round disc. It was about 2 inch diameter, and a bright rosy red color, no kind of rings the entire disc was red. I told him to get his ass to the doc.

Four days after he got bitten, brother went to the doc. Doc said it was Lyme disease and gave brother a 14 day scrip for antibiotics.
Lyme is no problem if you get on it early.

Wife and I each got a few ticks up from you in Alleghany county this past turkey season. One bite got really enflamed on the back of a knee. Lyme disease diagnosis. Doxycycline and done. Luckily caught it quickly.
That is what my brother got, doxycycline.
Ticks used to be a huge problem here. Seed ticks you could hardly see would grab onto you by the hundreds. I've seen pictures from the early 1900s of cattle with shingle ticks on them in layers like shingles. We got fire ants 50 some years ago and now have very few ticks.
I consider them the most dangerous animal in the woods.. after people.
Over the past few years Lyme disease has become extremely common in the NC Mountains. I just finished my 3rd course of Doxycycline in the past 18 Months. My wife has had to take it once. We bought Guinea fowl to help keep the tick population down.
Posted By: skeen Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/02/22
F@cking ticks - 40, 30, even just 20 years ago, we'd go hunting and no one even mentioned or thought about ticks. Now, if I even take the pups for a short field run, it's best your clothes and boots be doused in Permethrin, or you'll be crawling with 'em.
Posted By: P_Weed Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/02/22
I got Lyme disease from my computer - Tik Tok.
I've read that Lyme disease is a bio weapon escaped from Plum Island during a hurricane. Hit Connecticut first and then spread from there.

In the late 1980s I met a young woman from that area who had contracted it before anyone knew what was going on with her. She was 18 and felt more like an 80 year old with bad arthritis .

I don't know if the bio weapon story is true or not?
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
I've read that Lyme disease is a bio weapon escaped from Plum Island during a hurricane. Hit Connecticut first and then spread from there.

In the late 1980s I met a young woman from that area who had contracted it before anyone knew what was going on with her. She was 18 and felt more like an 80 year old with bad arthritis .

I don't know if the bio weapon story is true or not?

It's not.

Lyme disease comes from parasites being parasites and affixing themselves to our bodies. Parasites carry lots of nasty, nasty, schit and there are plenty of them that remain unnamed and unclassified for decades at a time.

If you live in a Lyme infested area (east coast) you should save any tick you pull off your body.
Posted By: 4and1 Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/02/22
Lyme is no laughing matter. Some people get it and are sick for a very long time. Advanced cases it seems doctors just don't know how to treat it.
Posted By: efw Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/02/22
Shouldn’t people from Lyme be hyper offended at our insensitivity in calling it that?

Hope Yer bro’s meds do the trick the stuff is nasty for sure!
Doesn't it make you go crazy?
Cefuroxime
Originally Posted by deflave
If you live in a Lyme infested area (east coast) you should save any tick you pull off your body.

Yepp...

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I have Lyme... it sucks.
Been there, took the Doxy.

The tests are not all that great, especially if you have had it before.

My Doc pretty much does a round of Doxy if you have reason to
believe you have it, if you've had it before.

He also told me he almost never sees the bullseye everyone talks about.

"Do not look for the bullseye as an indicator!"
Posted By: mikieb Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/02/22
Dose anyone want to share what is the dose of Doxy that you take when you get Lymes ?
Posted By: Y33611 Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/02/22
100mg x2 per day 30 days minimum
Also request testing for Babesiosis it’s an antibody screen and far more reliable than the Lyme antibody screens available. Doxycycline is not active against Babesioisis, it requires antimalarial type drugs but is easily cured.
Originally Posted by Y33611
100mg x2 per day 30 days minimum
Also request testing for Babesiosis it’s an antibody screen and far more reliable than the Lyme antibody screens available. Doxycycline is not active against Babesioisis, it requires antimalarial type drugs but is easily cured.

Good intel...

I have taken Ivermectin (horse paste) every few weeks for the past year or so... and/or more if the Rona hits me again...

I am NOT a doctor, but the Ivermectin does seem to help with the Lyme/age based arthritis.

Of course YMMV.
Posted By: Y33611 Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/02/22
I would also add that the Plum Island story is true. Lyme was only previously known In the 19th century as a relatively limited disease in European Red Deer (deer are primary carriers and are unaffected by Lyme) Babesiois is a common disease in Africa generally known as tick fever with many species varieties. Most wild animals and livestock in Africa have Babesioisis. It is endemic in feral dogs and coyotes in Mexico and SW USA but by a species that generally hasn’t crossed into humans or does so infrequently. Plum Island was a DOD then USDA facility (still there) on Long Island NY that was recklessly managed after the 50s. Old Lyme CT is due North of Plum Island about ten miles across LI Sound, where the first cases of arthralgia and illness were noted (in children)by physicians there who named it Lyme Disease.The first cases of human babesioisis were discovered on Nantucket to the East of Plum Island and the first cases of West Nile virus in dead crows and live horses were seen on LI just a few miles West of Plum Island... livestock experiments... migratory sea birds... pretty clear what happened.
Posted By: Diesel Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/02/22
The wife and I have both had Lymes. Nasty and sometimes hard to detect. Doxy is only known antibiotic to work on it.

There are other strains of lymes. A new one found in Clearfield County Pa., Lawrence Township Park called DTV. It is a rare type of Powasson virus and can be transmitted in as little as 15 minutes by tick, while lymes may take up to 24 hours. There is no known cure. 12 % will die and another 12 % will have severe health issues like encephalitis, meningitis, confusion, difficulty speaking, seizures and loss of coordination. 90 % will have lifelong health issues with it. I believe a person in Connecticut just died of it. This was reported in one of the game papers in Pennsylvania and I saved the article but cut the heading off so I don't remember which one. 92 % of the ticks there carried the virus.

Other strains of lymes are local with some more severe than others. Flave is right, save the tick because it can be tested for specifics. There is a mail in free analysis for lymes that the wife knows about, but she is super sick with covid right now. I'll ask for the info when she is back on her feet.
I had Lyme last year, over the 4th in fact, so 1 year anniversary, hurray. Anyway had this unidentified bite on my side. Started feeling exhausted and woozy. Chills and sweats. Then I happened to look at my side, perfect bullseye around that bite. We had some doxycycline so I started taking it immediately. Symptoms improved after the second dose. Took 4 days to get in to see our Dr, thought he may be upset that I self diagnosed and started the doxycycline but he was very pleased. Gave me a 30 day script plus a few extra to keep around if needed. No issues since thankfully.
Do dogs get lyme ??

I pull grape size ticks of them often. Before I can save them, they scarf em up and eat em.

Alex Jones said that Frontline Advantage chit would make them magnetic. I don’t need that. They already chase cars.

And I believe EVERY THING Alex Jones and Happy Camper and Steve90210 say. I’m always connecting the dots.
Originally Posted by Diesel
The wife and I have both had Lymes. Nasty and sometimes hard to detect. Doxy is only known antibiotic to work on it.


Lyme, not Lymes.

And doxy is not the only antibiotic.

https://www.columbia-lyme.org/treatment-options

I used to sell Ceftin.




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Posted By: Diesel Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/03/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
Do dogs get lyme ??

I pull grape size ticks of them often. Before I can save them, they scarf em up and eat em.

Alex Jones said that Frontline Advantage chit would make them magnetic. I don’t need that. They already chase cars.

And I believe EVERY THING Alex Jones and Happy Camper and Steve90210 say. I’m always connecting the dots.

Yes dogs get it. Almost all of our dogs have gotten it.
Posted By: Mike_S Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/03/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
Do dogs get lyme ??

I pull grape size ticks of them often. Before I can save them, they scarf em up and eat em.

Alex Jones said that Frontline Advantage chit would make them magnetic. I don’t need that. They already chase cars.

And I believe EVERY THING Alex Jones and Happy Camper and Steve90210 say. I’m always connecting the dots.

Yes dogs can get Lyme. Hunting buddy lost a setter to it.
Posted By: Diesel Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/03/22
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by Diesel
The wife and I have both had Lymes. Nasty and sometimes hard to detect. Doxy is only known antibiotic to work on it.


Lyme, not Lymes.

And doxy is not the only antibiotic.

https://www.columbia-lyme.org/treatment-options

I used to sell Ceftin.




P

Thanks for the link. Good to know the side effects. I saved it. I never heard of Ceftin.

My Doc told me Doxy was the only "effective" antibiotic against Lyme after a 12 day stay in the hospital trying to discover what was wrong with me. Did every test in the hospital (probably padding the bill). I thought I was a goner. None of the tests showed Lyme and I had been on Amoxicillin. He put me on Doxy and in two days all my issues subsided, and I was released. I stayed on it for 30 days. Lyme and anaplasmosis are common in our area.

They never detected Lyme but the House Doctor who released me said the tests were not always revealing and he personally had the same experience as me. I have heard that there can be lingering issues from the disease especially if not caught early enough. I may suffer that fate as my joints, especially my knees, have not been right since.

As a side note the covid tests are not always accurate either.
I’m way over on the left coast. Lyme is practically unheard of here so misdiagnosis is a real threat.

Doctors are people too. Sometimes they have their head up their ass, same as anybody.
My daughter and I both have it. We got it during turkey season a few years back. It is not anything to play with, it has flu like symptoms and can get worse. We both have flair ups every so often. The doctor treats us with doxycycline for 2 - 4 weeks and that crap will make you sick as a dog while taking it sometimes!
Originally Posted by slumlord
Do dogs get lyme ??

I pull grape size ticks of them often. Before I can save them, they scarf em up and eat em.

Alex Jones said that Frontline Advantage chit would make them magnetic. I don’t need that. They already chase cars.

And I believe EVERY THING Alex Jones and Happy Camper and Steve90210 say. I’m always connecting the dots.



Yes.
And if I remember right, there is a vaccine for dogs.
The vet feels it's not available for people due to liability and the
expense of getting it approved.

I'm fairly certain he was used it on himself.
We never got ticks on us in Fall and winter hunting my whole life and now the last ten years you get ticks on you in December. Ticks have clearly evolved to be cold tolerant.
My son and I got it after a trip to PA last year. The doctors in Houston, TX originally thought it was Covid - even though we tested negative. After 5 days they finally figured it out. Neither of us remember getting bit.

Mom got it last month and it put her in the hospital for a week.
I got a half dozen ticks attached to me and more on the dog. This in northern Georgia. In a brochure, the state of Georgia says, " we have Lyme disease but we are not as bad as Massachusetts." I and the dog were tested and both negative.
I worry a bit about tick paralysis here in the Rockies. We have had two dogs which collapsed with it. They recovered at just about the rate they went down, once the tick was removed. If it happened to a person and they couldn't remove the tick, they would simply quit breathing after a while. Not a great way to go, IMO. GD
I hate ticks. The guineas are tick eating machines but I was not happy to get another tick bite that turned ugly again. I told my wife I had been spoiling the birds with to many treats... she pointed out that they don't wander more than a few hundred yards from the house and we do.

It's probably pretty tick free close by.... Two down sides to guineas though, they are LOUD and they dig big pits in the yard to dust bath in.... I hate ticks way more than holes in the yard though.
Posted By: batch Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/03/22
Bring in the possums. Reports from somebody, somewhere, stated each possum will eat from 3000 to 4000 per day. Who knows, it might even be right. I have heard that anecdotally multiple times. I just want to know who counted them.
Originally Posted by batch
Bring in the possums. Reports from somebody, somewhere, stated each possum will eat from 3000 to 4000 per day. Who knows, it might even be right. I have heard that anecdotally multiple times. I just want to know who counted them.


That's been refuted.
Posted By: CraigD Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/03/22
It's a good thing it was diagnosed and treated early.

My sister (from Wisconsin) got Lyme disease and it went undiagnosed for months while snow birding in Arizona...the doctors there had never seen it. Twenty years later it still gives her grief.
Lyme Killed my brother. He lived in NC.
Posted By: Diesel Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/03/22
I keep the grass mowed tight around the house. It seems it keeps the ticks at bay. If me or the dogs go into the tall weeds the ticks attach. I have been watching this closely for years to see if my theory holds true and I see no evidence to the contrary.
I was living down in central Georgia. I had a big pet cat who spent a lot of time outside. On my one acre lot, I had about 15 fire ant mounds. I destroyed the fire ants. And then I noticed that the cat was getting covered in ticks. And I figured that fire ants must eat ticks. Fire ants gotta eat something.

I left the fire ants alone, and in 3 months, I had 15 fire ant mounds once again. And never saw another tick on my cat.
Started dousing my hunting clothes with permethrin some years back. Haven’t had a single tick since then, and they get pretty bad some years, both dog ticks and deer ticks. I lay it on pretty thick.

Seem to be down the last couple of years; none on the deer I killed.
Posted By: jd9770 Re: My Brother Got Lyme Disease - 07/03/22
I got Lyme in the late 90’s. Convincing a doctor to test me was tough. It took over a year to get one to do it. Went thru the treatment. No permanent damage. But I still have flare ups occasionally, mainly the return of facial muscle twitches in my left eyelid and cheek. I will say this, I had never felt so bad in my life as I did before being diagnosed and treated.
There are a number of tick borne illnesses. Several years, I got covered up with ticks while surveying land on the Tennessee River. A few days later, flu like symptoms showed up and got really bad. My doctor ran some tests and diagnosed me with Relapsing Fever. I took the standard course of antibiotics. Even with treatment, nearly killed me, and recovery was slow, a good six months.
Its out here on the west coast big time also. Youngest Daughter got it and it has really knocked her down. Its so bad here that they have a medical center devoted to it in Ukiah CA. We started using Repel while hunting around twenty years ago and not a tick since then using it. I highly advise anyone in the wood to use it or something like it. Also I was the first know person in California to contact Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. Darn near killed me if my California Doctor hadn't taken an x-ray to a convention in Denver and two Doctors there told him what I had. That was 71 years ago.
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