"The video tells in real time the brutal story of how heavily armed officers failed to immediately launch a cohesive and aggressive response to stop the shooter and save more children if possible. And it reinforces the trauma of those parents, friends and bystanders who were outside the school and pleaded with police to do something, and for those survivors who quietly called 911 from inside the classroom to beg for help."
I've been told that no one needs an "assault weapon", especially in the context of defending against a government that turns on the population, because the military (or police) have better training and weapons.
One kid with an AR made a bunch of cops with ARs (and shields, vests, training, etc.) look like puzzies...
The response, or lack thereof, needs to be shown in every active shooter training school there is now.
NOBODY had command of that situation. The police were in a BAD crossfire.... If the nutjob would have entered the hallway, there would have been shot cops on both ends of the hallway.
I understand that in many cases, the active shooter kills themself. But what about those that don't and are apprehended? Why have none of them faced or received the death penalty?
I understand that in many cases, the active shooter kills themself. But what about those that don't and are apprehended? Why have none of them faced or received the death penalty?
Most are in liberal chitholes that have abolished the death penalty.
I understand that in many cases, the active shooter kills themself. But what about those that don't and are apprehended? Why have none of them faced or received the death penalty?
Most are in liberal chitholes that have abolished the death penalty.
Yep. Like the POS Highland Park shooter in Illinois. They know thereās no Death Penalty.
Bring back mandatory public hanging one day after theyāre found guilty. Broadcast it live on every Network. And I bet a bunch of this Bullschitt would come to a screeching halt. š”
If they are not Uvalde type cowards, they are FBI type Jake Booted Thugs, OH and letās not forget those that Stand Down when ordered by Left wing politicians.
They should let the family members have those pieces of chit.
Iāve said this before. Ever notice how Saddium Hussian keep the muzzys in line. They were scared to death of what the secret police would do to them. Our bleeding heart liberalās have made our justice system a day at the spa. Hasbeen
They should let the family members have those pieces of chit.
Iāve said this before. Ever notice how Saddium Hussian keep the muzzys in line. They were scared to death of what the secret police would do to them. Our bleeding heart liberalās have made our justice system a day at the spa. Hasbeen
It's sure getting there.
The FIBs are nothing more than the enforcement arm of the Democrat party.
The knowledge of their total failure was already sickening, and this video just makes the sickness feel worse. How does a person maintain a lick of confidence in LEOs after watching this?
Why are they in that role, why do they wear the badge and carry those arms - they are supposed to be the first to rise to protect and aid those who employ them - the plain and vulnerable citizens - and the children above all.
A travesty revisited. Every one of those cowards should be fired, ridiculed, and maybe even punished for their failure to act. How can they live with themselves?
they were more worried about killing the germs on their hands rather than the guy that was killing those kids. Those cowards ought to be strung up. They should never work again ever.
I've been told that no one needs an "assault weapon", especially in the context of defending against a government that turns on the population, because the military (or police) have better training and weapons.
One kid with an AR made a bunch of cops with ARs (and shields, vests, training, etc.) look like puzzies...
I understand that in many cases, the active shooter kills themself. But what about those that don't and are apprehended? Why have none of them faced or received the death penalty?
They had a deal. Insanity would be the plea.
Free room and board and medical care for the rest of their life and plenty of intimacy.
Sure would be interesting to see the BP guy make his entrance into the hall and classroom.
Can you imagine stepping in that room looking for the puke and seeing 34 people on the floor?
What's strange is that the prescribed method of dealing with mass shooters was changed nationally after Columbine, yet in every case since then the same flawed procedure is followed over and over agin.
It's got to be more than just a coincidence, unless its cowardice.
Biden is shipping the Wetbacks, or Mojados, in due to racism. Biden and his staff hate white people, even though they themselves are white. They favor illiterate, sometimes diseased brown skinned folk. Joe and his handlers figure the Mojados will vote Democrat.
We are watching a fundemental transformation of America.
When Obama ran in 2008 he promised "a fundemental transformation of America." Obama wasn't kidding.
I can't understand how, with all those "men" (term used lightly), not one felt the fight, and all felt the flight. It just doesnt make sense. Forget about them being trained law enforcement. If a group of men off the street were in this situation, some are going in, full speed ahead.
"The fight or flight response is an automatic physiological reaction to an event that is perceived as stressful or frightening. The perception of threat activates the sympathetic nervous system and triggers an acute stress response that prepares the body to fight or flee."
How can these guys be so casual? Washing hands, checking phones, casual conversation? All the while shots ring out with kids wailing and dying. It just doesnt add up.
Until now I have refrained from being overly critical. I always try to put myself in the shoes of others. After seeing this, every goddam one of those cundts needs to be fired. What a [bleep] embarrassment to the LE profession and a kick in the cock to the protect and serve motto.
Until now I have refrained from being overly critical. I always try to put myself in the shoes of others. After seeing this, every goddam one of those cundts needs to be fired. What a [bleep] embarrassment to the LE profession and a kick in the cock to the protect and serve motto.
Iām surprised anyone is surprised. You hire low IQ individuals and pay them 20% less than the median income and wonder why you have sub par performance? Iād rather my kids be crooks than cops. Crooks have more honor.
Iām surprised anyone is surprised. You hire low IQ individuals and pay them 20% less than the median income and wonder why you have sub par performance? Iād rather my kids be crooks than cops. Crooks have more honor.
I can't understand how, with all those "men" (term used lightly), not one felt the fight, and all felt the flight. It just doesnt make sense. Forget about them being trained law enforcement. If a group of men off the street were in this situation, some are going in, full speed ahead.
"The fight or flight response is an automatic physiological reaction to an event that is perceived as stressful or frightening. The perception of threat activates the sympathetic nervous system and triggers an acute stress response that prepares the body to fight or flee."
How can these guys be so casual? Washing hands, checking phones, casual conversation? All the while shots ring out with kids wailing and dying. It just doesnt add up.
I didnāt watch the whole thing. But the article said two of the Cowards were seen āfist bumpingā each other. Like ctsmith says, how could these POSās be so casual when they could obviously hear the shots and the screams of terrified kids being murdered. š”
I didnāt watch the whole thing. But the article said two of the Cowards were seen āfist bumpingā each other. Like ctsmith says, how could these POSās be so casual when they could obviously hear the shots and the screams of terrified kids being murdered. š”
Everyone of those fuqkers should have their heart cut out while they watch.
That was awesome! Who was that STUPID MOFO who sanitized his hands while the punk was killing people? Heās the first to get his ass fired. Those so-called LEOās ought to be ashamed of themselves! Its unbeliveable watching that going down.
I've been told that no one needs an "assault weapon", especially in the context of defending against a government that turns on the population, because the military (or police) have better training and weapons.
One kid with an AR made a bunch of cops with ARs (and shields, vests, training, etc.) look like puzzies...
No, they exposed the puzzies for what they are, but they went home that night.
Cowards don't go to the gunfire in schools. Men do.
I don't see one cop that is visually upset. In a combat zone with kids getting slaughtered and not one, of many, show any emotion? I can't wrap my mind around it.
I understand that in many cases, the active shooter kills themself. But what about those that don't and are apprehended? Why have none of them faced or received the death penalty?
Most are in liberal chitholes that have abolished the death penalty.
Yep. Like the POS Highland Park shooter in Illinois. They know thereās no Death Penalty.
Bring back mandatory public hanging one day after theyāre found guilty. Broadcast it live on every Network. And I bet a bunch of this Bullschitt would come to a screeching halt. š”
I bet you are right. It would stop a bunch of this shooting, or they would make sure and kill themselves at the end.
Look at the Brite Side .. The Derby Donkey named Mitch and Ms. Mouth Carolina got their ā Red Flag Legislation ā Total Loss for Many .. Big Win for Mordor on the Potomac..
Look at the Brite Side .. The Derby Donkey named Mitch and Ms. Mouth Carolina got their ā Red Flag Legislation ā Total Loss for Many .. Big Win for Mordor on the Potomac..
Flave(and others) would be the dudes to bust in and cap the perp.
I don't doubt that for a second. Most of us here would, myself included. I never insinuated that.
But, he is on the record here over the years with the opinion that cops are not heroes and largely just traffic ticket writers.
And now he is "nauseous" they didn't act. GMAFB.
Around here they are largely traffic ticket writers. We call the State Mounties the Highwayman Patrol. I hope there are some NHP Troopers reading this.
The knowledge of their total failure was already sickening, and this video just makes the sickness feel worse. How does a person maintain a lick of confidence in LEOs after watching this?
Why are they in that role, why do they wear the badge and carry those arms - they are supposed to be the first to rise to protect and aid those who employ them - the plain and vulnerable citizens - and the children above all.
A travesty revisited. Every one of those cowards should be fired, ridiculed, and maybe even punished for their failure to act. How can they live with themselves?
Why in that role? Willing to make $45k/year, suffer bureaucracy, and maybe have to act like more than armed security. Plus can hang tribute pics, dedication plaques, etc on their walls while claiming higher standards. Know a lot that donāt fit that script and more still that do sadly. Our society places the same monetary value on a night shift forklift warehouse operator and 1/4 the requirements to qualify. Then we all pontificate on why the system seems broken and we have these issues.
So what in this entire thread has highlighted why we have an elite task force surveiling the scum and prepared to respond to extreme violence???? Exactly my point though I sorely wish it wasnāt.
Remember those Hedge Fund Managers that stripped millions of any hope of retirement being forced to do so because they lacked compensation before or after? Those that impact a few innocent failing to respond when their cheeseburgers are cooling making $40/hr though, string some MoFos up,,,,,, this situ is Fād but you know, those glorified security guards are way worse than youād be in that situ given your above average training at great personal costs to your time and money preparing for this so carry on waddling as you argue the merits of what youād do in that situ.
If most just start with making $45k/yr for say a family of 4 youād be too busy trying to make ends meet or getting benefits to raise the oppty for your kids.
Our society fails to value our public security or our teachers then wonders why this absolute heart wrenching tragedy perpetuates.
IDK, letās raise school tax 75% to say NA of $6k/house(remember old stat of $300k to raise 1 child?!? Honestly evaluate how much āraisingā you put on their teachers), then raise tax to pay police $250k/yr, I could pull stats on a 15-20 yr private industry professional but why bother, most ignored my post long before when they satisfied their egos one of my points didnāt apply.
Then complain about lack of effort by all involved. In light of what most make here, adjusting to the teacher/beat cop salary is hard enough to consider.
This nation does far to little that which we entrust with far too much,,,,,,
Then gets all up in arms that most didnāt die on their poverty level, issued pistols to try and save one while ignoring the 4 at home that relied on their poverty level income,,,,,,,,, flame on GFY
Remember those Hedge Fund Managers that stripped millions of any hope of retirement being forced to do so because they lacked compensation before or after? Those that impact a few innocent failing to respond when their cheeseburgers are cooling making $40/hr though, string some MoFos up,,,,,, this situ is Fād but you know, those glorified security guards are way worse than youād be in that situ given your above average training at great personal costs to your time and money preparing for this so carry on waddling as you argue the merits of what youād do in that situ.
If most just start with making $45k/yr for say a family of 4 youād be too busy trying to make ends meet or getting benefits to raise the oppty for your kids.
Our society fails to value our public security or our teachers then wonders why this absolute heart wrenching tragedy perpetuates.
IDK, letās raise school tax 75% to say NA of $6k/house(remember old stat of $300k to raise 1 child?!? Honestly evaluate how much āraisingā you put on their teachers), then raise tax to pay police $250k/yr, I could pull stats on a 15-20 yr private industry professional but why bother, most ignored my post long before when they satisfied their egos one of my points didnāt apply.
Then complain about lack of effort by all involved. In light of what most make here, adjusting to the teacher/beat cop salary is hard enough to consider.
This nation does far to little that which we entrust with far too much,,,,,,
Then gets all up in arms that most didnāt die on their poverty level, issued pistols to try and save one while ignoring the 4 at home that relied on their poverty level income,,,,,,,,, flame on GFY
I'll give you credit on most of your arguement right up to the point of making sure their hands were sanitized while kids were bleeding out. Now you can GFY for making excuses for them you POS.
The cops around here make more than 45k per year, and have better retirement plans than just about anyone.
So the 4.5 cops in small town KY have retirement abd make letās say $65~75k. Did you factor in overtime? So letās say $65k. Last I heard so baristas @ Starbucks now make $30/hr aka $60k, I love caffeine, fairly picky even, not sure it rates with those I entrust with all thatās precious to me in the world. Do have more than 2 kids but canāt imagine life without even 1.
The police aren't living on "poverty level," at least around here anyway. I can't imagine very many of them just starting their careers are doing so as the head of household and sole provider of a family of four. All of them around here are married to nurses and live in nice subdivisions.
But regardless of their salary, they signed up for the job voluntarily, and the ones in Uvalde appear to have failed those kids and teachers completely. Their salaries and work conditions have nothing to do with that failure.
Remember those Hedge Fund Managers that stripped millions of any hope of retirement being forced to do so because they lacked compensation before or after? Those that impact a few innocent failing to respond when their cheeseburgers are cooling making $40/hr though, string some MoFos up,,,,,, this situ is Fād but you know, those glorified security guards are way worse than youād be in that situ given your above average training at great personal costs to your time and money preparing for this so carry on waddling as you argue the merits of what youād do in that situ.
If most just start with making $45k/yr for say a family of 4 youād be too busy trying to make ends meet or getting benefits to raise the oppty for your kids.
Our society fails to value our public security or our teachers then wonders why this absolute heart wrenching tragedy perpetuates.
IDK, letās raise school tax 75% to say NA of $6k/house(remember old stat of $300k to raise 1 child?!? Honestly evaluate how much āraisingā you put on their teachers), then raise tax to pay police $250k/yr, I could pull stats on a 15-20 yr private industry professional but why bother, most ignored my post long before when they satisfied their egos one of my points didnāt apply.
Then complain about lack of effort by all involved. In light of what most make here, adjusting to the teacher/beat cop salary is hard enough to consider.
This nation does far to little that which we entrust with far too much,,,,,,
Then gets all up in arms that most didnāt die on their poverty level, issued pistols to try and save one while ignoring the 4 at home that relied on their poverty level income,,,,,,,,, flame on GFY
I'll give you credit on most of your arguement right up to the point of making sure their hands were sanitized while kids were bleeding out. Now you can GFY for making excuses for them you POS.
Sorry reading comprehension escapes you. Not subjecting to that. Go back to where I outlined a possible solution that didnāt involve local Security guards masquerading as PD, you ignorant, illiterate F!
Very rarely comment like that but had my fill of teenagers trying to find a flaw in a potential solution they can pick apart.
Pointing out a flaw in another doesnāt make you smarter, or so I tell youth I work with.
How about an intelligible dialogue on how we solve it?!?
Or feel like your smarter and better with no solution pointing out whatever flaw in whatever you can find while disregarding intent. Whatever helps you sleep and doesnāt progress convo. Expect nothing less and your none better for it so if nothing else I consumed 5 mins of your life for nothing
The police aren't living on "poverty level," at least around here anyway. I can't imagine very many of them just starting their careers are doing so as the head of household and sole provider of a family of four. All of them around here are married to nurses and live in nice subdivisions.
But regardless of their salary, they signed up for the job voluntarily, and the ones in Uvalde appear to have failed those kids and teachers completely. Their salaries and work conditions have nothing to do with that failure.
Starting salaries Iāve seen are under $40k. Teachers local paid by private are so low they rejoice at making $40k/year moving to public while private cuts corners to pay no benefits abd $35k or much less.
I paid tuition while my wife provided that private Ed being way over qualified. Easier this year to let her stay home and send kids to one of highest ranked publics in state.
I wanted narrative to be true. Sadly, most do the bare minimum to get paid, includes those we ask to let their kids starve so they can enjoy privilege of protecting us while we throw darts.
This is below discussion. Not for or against so not invested enough to fight this out.
Earlier position still stands. We abdicate responsibility for those that protect our way of life,,,,,,, loss of mission is a real thing,,,,, donāt worry,,,,,, your caramel macchiato is waiting tomorrow
You'd think that after Parkland they would have learned a thing or two.
Point taken, why donāt we settle returning warriors into a 9-5 protecting our most precious? We say PTSD/Risk/Whatever about those we willing give full auto to for indirect countries. Then ignore our responsibility to them when they return. Iād rather trust my entire family to one Vet labeled ābrokenā vs. a dozen that make $45k/yr but passed the test offset by diversity bias.
Heck, catch one of my cpt.ās in bed with my wife to this day and Iād buy every word out of their mouth. Iād put my families life in their hands.
We could build that mindset into our domestic security forces. Weād just have to sacrifice a few Lattes,,,,,,,
Remember, if the video wasn't released, the story would still be:
- a brave resource officerā confronted the gunman outside of Robb Elementary School;
- That the door was locked;
- Cops entered classroom and were wounded by shooter;
- Alla the kids were already dead when the cops got there;
- They didn't have a ballistic shield or any weapons capable of taking on a semiautomatic rifle;
- The door was locked and they couldn't get it open until a janitor gave em a key;
- āIt is a fact, that because of their quick response getting on the scene, being able to respond to the gunman and eliminate the gunman, they were able to save lives. Unfortunately, not enough,ā;
- the incident had turned into a barricaded subject call;
Remember, if the video wasn't released, the story would still be:
- a brave resource officerā confronted the gunman outside of Robb Elementary School;
- That the door was locked;
- Cops entered classroom and were wounded by shooter;
- Alla the kids were already dead when the cops got there;l
- They didn't have a ballistic shield or any weapons capable of taking on a semiautomatic rifle;
- The door was locked and they couldn't get it open until a janitor gave em a key;
- āIt is a fact, that because of their quick response getting on the scene, being able to respond to the gunman and eliminate the gunman, they were able to save lives. Unfortunately, not enough,ā;
- the incident had turned into a barricaded subject call;
Point taken, Iāve not even watched video and appreciate the realistic gut check it provides. Iāve very low tolerance for any discretion against women or children so know watching would very much skew my slant.
All Iām saying is rather than ridicule those we underpay/undervalue to save ourselves a few hundred annually in taxes letās provide solutions. The best to solve this are those so keen on preserving rights.
The argue to argue crowd wears thin. Yeah, left wing libs are getting old, what resolutions are we proposijg to resolve? Pointing out flaws is very different than working on solutions.
Division drives votes, easy to highlight any possible flaw but if Remsen or other legal hawks see it they can highlight the warrant being proposed and itās merit or failings to the core argument. Iām no legal hawk or educated poster like others. Just want to see us use the collective brilliance to drive a better solution.
Or maybe thatās a sad indictment of my optimistic personality. I do know waiting on elected puppets to tell me the solution wins nothing for anyone.
The police aren't living on "poverty level," at least around here anyway. I can't imagine very many of them just starting their careers are doing so as the head of household and sole provider of a family of four. All of them around here are married to nurses and live in nice subdivisions.
But regardless of their salary, they signed up for the job voluntarily, and the ones in Uvalde appear to have failed those kids and teachers completely. Their salaries and work conditions have nothing to do with that failure.
Be helpful if you could quote the code of ethics or standard of duty they agreed to for their salary so we could pick apart. Honestly, I donāt know. Perhaps they sign a doc in blood saying theyāll let all their children grow up without parents for barely above subsistence. If you produce docs it proves my point. If you produce alternatives itās the same.
Look at other developed countries, the value they place on education, and the limits they face on personal security. Then put a real value on your childās education/safety, then the taxes you pay to āupholdā those convictions.
To say most are not mismatched is disengeous.
Regardless of how strongly I think I would respond in this tragedy. My one response doesnāt solve the underlying failures of society to recognize where their value truly lies.
If you argue itās not protecting our soft targets, investing in a higher level of Ed, and honoring our warriors Iād love to hear what you find more important to cultural survival if nothing else.
Remember those Hedge Fund Managers that stripped millions of any hope of retirement being forced to do so because they lacked compensation before or after? Those that impact a few innocent failing to respond when their cheeseburgers are cooling making $40/hr though, string some MoFos up,,,,,, this situ is Fād but you know, those glorified security guards are way worse than youād be in that situ given your above average training at great personal costs to your time and money preparing for this so carry on waddling as you argue the merits of what youād do in that situ. If
If most just start with making $45k/yr for say a family of 4 youād be too busy trying to make ends meet or getting benefits to raise the oppty for your kids.
Our society fails to value our public security or our teachers then wonders why this absolute heart wrenching tragedy perpetuates.
IDK, letās raise school tax 75% to say NA of $6k/house(remember old stat of $300k to raise 1 child?!? Honestly evaluate how much āraisingā you put on their teachers), then raise tax to pay police $250k/yr, I could pull stats on a 15-20 yr private industry professional but why bother, most ignored my post long before when they satisfied their egos one of my points didnāt apply.
Then complain about lack of effort by all involved. In light of what most make here, adjusting to the teacher/beat cop salary is hard enough to consider.
This nation does far to little that which we entrust with far too much,,,,,,
Then gets all up in arms that most didnāt die on their poverty level, issued pistols to try and save one while ignoring the 4 at home that relied on their poverty level income,,,,,,,,, flame on GFY
I'll give you credit on most of your arguement right up to the point of making sure their hands were sanitized while kids were bleeding out. Now you can GFY for making excuses for them you POS.
Read a bit,
Heartless and gutless to agree with video I wouldnāt watch. Making an argument against the impact of the LEOs pause for hand sanitizer removes focus on core issues. Glad you found a thread to pull lots of flaws to be found by all not direct on scene.
Rather than make excuses for or easy excuses against my dialogue is around what discussions can we have on prevention? Not goin Into insults to highlight lack of imagination. Just asking how do we solve with underpaid, undertrained, under prepared resources? We invest a fortune in some of our warriors then label unqualified for those poverty level security roles open discharge.
Maybe I selfishly want an argument for social events events where I havenāt yet found one. Maybe I want to advance dialogue on solutions Iām inclined to. Never said I didnāt have a bias. Never said I had a bias.
Didnāt see you propose conjecture or thought provoking solutions.
Be helpful if you could quote the code of ethics or standard of duty they agreed to for their salary so we could pick apart. Honestly, I donāt know. Perhaps they sign a doc in blood saying theyāll let all their children grow up without parents for barely above subsistence. If you produce docs it proves my point. If you produce alternatives itās the same.
Look at other developed countries, the value they place on education, and the limits they face on personal security. Then put a real value on your childās education/safety, then the taxes you pay to āupholdā those convictions.
To say most are not mismatched is disengeous.
Regardless of how strongly I think I would respond in this tragedy. My one response doesnāt solve the underlying failures of society to recognize where their value truly lies.
If you argue itās not protecting our soft targets, investing in a higher level of Ed, and honoring our warriors Iād love to hear what you find more important to cultural survival if nothing else.
I would think, at a minimum, their standard of duty would include an attempt to neutralize the bad guy slaughtering kids in the room they are standing in front of. I kinda doubt the active shooter training they took instructed them to mill around in the hallway on their cell phones while kids are being shot. And to prevent anyone else from trying to rescue kids. If their standard of duty doesn't reach that far, why pay them anything at all? Why even have police officers?
If those guys really were only making 45k a year, it was 45k too much.
Remember those Hedge Fund Managers that stripped millions of any hope of retirement being forced to do so because they lacked compensation before or after? Those that impact a few innocent failing to respond when their cheeseburgers are cooling making $40/hr though, string some MoFos up,,,,,, this situ is Fād but you know, those glorified security guards are way worse than youād be in that situ given your above average training at great personal costs to your time and money preparing for this so carry on waddling as you argue the merits of what youād do in that situ. If
If most just start with making $45k/yr for say a family of 4 youād be too busy trying to make ends meet or getting benefits to raise the oppty for your kids.
Our society fails to value our public security or our teachers then wonders why this absolute heart wrenching tragedy perpetuates.
IDK, letās raise school tax 75% to say NA of $6k/house(remember old stat of $300k to raise 1 child?!? Honestly evaluate how much āraisingā you put on their teachers), then raise tax to pay police $250k/yr, I could pull stats on a 15-20 yr private industry professional but why bother, most ignored my post long before when they satisfied their egos one of my points didnāt apply.
Then complain about lack of effort by all involved. In light of what most make here, adjusting to the teacher/beat cop salary is hard enough to consider.
This nation does far to little that which we entrust with far too much,,,,,,
Then gets all up in arms that most didnāt die on their poverty level, issued pistols to try and save one while ignoring the 4 at home that relied on their poverty level income,,,,,,,,, flame on GFY
I'll give you credit on most of your arguement right up to the point of making sure their hands were sanitized while kids were bleeding out. Now you can GFY for making excuses for them you POS.
Didnāt see you propose conjecture or thought provoking solutions.
My solution is for you to GFY for making ANY excuse for these piglets. How fuqking plain can I put this?
"Remember, if the video wasn't released, the story would still be:
- a brave resource officerā confronted the gunman outside of Robb Elementary School;
- That the door was locked;
- Cops entered classroom and were wounded by shooter;
- Alla the kids were already dead when the cops got there;
- They didn't have a ballistic shield or any weapons capable of taking on a semiautomatic rifle;
- The door was locked and they couldn't get it open until a janitor gave em a key;
- āIt is a fact, that because of their quick response getting on the scene, being able to respond to the gunman and eliminate the gunman, they were able to save lives. Unfortunately, not enough,ā;
- the incident had turned into a barricaded subject call"
fubarski you are right, on day 2 that was the narrative
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