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Posted By: stxhunter Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
In perfect shape with a scope hardly been shot, forgot what scope been 6 months since I have seen it. Flave said to offer 700, offered 750. He said 800 and he'd throw in two boxes of ammo. Going topick it up next week.

I did tile in his whole house back in Jan. a nice guy.
Posted By: Raeford Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Nice
Posted By: slumlord Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
I have that same in 22-250

Maybe only 3 boxes through it since I bought it in 1991
Posted By: 79S Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
I have that same in 22-250

Maybe only 3 boxes through it since I bought it in 1991

Give you $150 for it throw in some dollyworld park passes..
Posted By: Judman Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
That’ll be a good buck hammer Roger 👊🏻
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Had that very rifle, but mine had the bull barrel.

Shot lights out. smile
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Think I'll try to kill a Nilgia with it next Jan. or Feb.
Posted By: Partsman Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
I have one in 22-250 it has the varmint heavy barrel, great rifle that I used in competitions.
Posted By: JGray Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
That should be a fun one. I had a Ruger 77 220 Swift years ago - heavy target model. Extremely accurate and enjoyed the heck out of it.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Varmint? Tang safety? VT? Two stage trigger? Wood? Laminate?

Details, man, details.
Posted By: tuskbuster Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
I’ve got it in the heavy barrel that hasn’t seen the front of the safe more than 15 yrs
Posted By: wilkeshunter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Good to see you are out kicking azz on something. A good new toy like this Ruger will be therapeutic and well deserved. Let us know how it shoots.
Posted By: GRIZZ Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Hopefully it shoots better than the one my my hunting buddy has it just would not shoot no matter what and it was a bull barrel tang safety.
Posted By: DryPowder Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
I travel a pretty wide circle if you need any components.

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Posted By: CCCC Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Nice - good for you. Shot mine yesterday. So enjoyable - but probably not going to try it on Nilgai.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
My buddy bought me one several year ago.
Nice.

There’s nothing like the feeling of a new gun. Well maybe a few things but it definitely ranks up towards the top😄
Posted By: cra1948 Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
I still have the one I bought new in 1977 and it's always been a shooter. It's an old-school woodchuck rifle: heavy 26" barrel and fixed 16X Leupold. You may be looking at a ROT too slow for any bullet you might want to shoot nilgai with (saying that with only the vaguest idea what a nilgai is.)

Years ago, when it was fairly new, a friend of mine and I were shooting it at the gun club on the 200 yard range. When we got done, he wanted to take his target to show his father (who was a varmint shooter and reloader.) Some time later, I saw his father at a funeral or some such event in town and he said, "David showed me that target he shot with your Swift. I said, 'That's a pretty good group.' Then he told me it was 200 yards. If it'd been anybody but David I'd have called him a liar."
Posted By: deflave Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Varmint? Tang safety? VT? Two stage trigger? Wood? Laminate?

Details, man, details.

Yes.
Posted By: mjbgalt Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Think I'll try to kill a Nilgia with it next Jan. or Feb.

Girl I work with shot one in Texas. They insisted that she use a 300 win mag because of how tough they are lol
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Originally Posted by DryPowder
I travel a pretty wide circle if you need any components.

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I'll definitely hit you up on some brass, I have some around here, I bought 270 brass on Ebay Years and got 220 instead.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/14/22
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Varmint? Tang safety? VT? Two stage trigger? Wood? Laminate?

Details, man, details.

Yes.
It's been 6 months since I've seen it I'll ask Harold tomorrow. I remember the blueing was nice as well as the wood, looked pretty much new.
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
I have that same in 22-250

Maybe only 3 boxes through it since I bought it in 1991


Same and about the same year I bought mine.


My favorite gun, by far.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
I thought V by default meant bull barrel.

Mine is 26” heavy wall

Blue and walnut
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
I thought V by default meant bull barrel.

Mine is 26” heavy wall

Blue and walnut
It do.
Posted By: Judman Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
I think Ol Rodg would know if it would work on a nilgai . Let er chew buddy and post pics. I’m sure it’ll piss off the field and stream crew off!! Haha
Posted By: Uncle_Alvah Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
I had a heavy barrel Swift when Ruger first made them as a limited run. About 1976 I'd say. Great rifle.
Posted By: okie Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
The right bullet will get you there. Might have to go a little shorter but speed out of that cartridge should add a bit more stability maybe a shorter Barnes ? Be a fun experiment on tough game.
Posted By: Seafire Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
nice score Roger....
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Not my first choice even for mule deer. But I know of a few elk killed with a 22 250 and with a Swift.

I doubt that Nilgai is any tougher than an elk. Punch a hole through the heart or the brain, it will die.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Originally Posted by okie
The right bullet will get you there. Might have to go a little shorter but speed out of that cartridge should add a bit more stability maybe a shorter Barnes ? Be a fun experiment on tough game.
70 grain Speer.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Not in a 14 inch twist.

Some of the 60s will work, and the 63 gr Sierra SMP.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
I was thinking Speer designed that to work in a 14 twist.

Pard used em in a 14 twist 222 anyway.
Posted By: MAC Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
I used to have one with the heavy barrel and I topped it with a 6x24 Bausch & Lomb. It was my prairie dog gun and I tipped over some coyotes at long range too. In a fit of extreme stupidity I traded it for a 243.
Posted By: Magnum_Bob Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Bought my 1 st one used in 1975 77v 220 Swift by 1982 the barrel throat was getting rough. Later I traded it on a colt ar figured I'd keep my eye out and another in better shape would show up, still have that one. Never used the swift on deer or antelope but others have. Mb
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Originally Posted by MAC
I used to have one with the heavy barrel and I topped it with a 6x24 Bausch & Lomb. It was my prairie dog gun and I tipped over some coyotes at long range too. In a fit of extreme stupidity I traded it for a 243.
A 55 Ballistic Tip in the 243 is just more of the same.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
I was thinking Speer designed that to work in a 14 twist.

Pard used em in a 14 twist 222 anyway.
I will check my Speer manuals when I get home.

My experience comes from 60 gr Hornady and 63 gr Sierra would stabilize in my rifle while the slightly longer 60 gr Nosler ballistic tip would not.
Posted By: Swifty52 Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Not in a 14 inch twist.

Some of the 60s will work, and the 63 gr Sierra SMP.

Speer did design the 70 grain to be used in 14 twist

Speer #13 says the test rifle was 16 twist, online doesn’t list twist rate.
Posted By: DryPowder Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/15/22
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Not in a 14 inch twist.

Some of the 60s will work, and the 63 gr Sierra SMP.

I've got a couple of bags of Nosler 64 gr bonded flat based bullets I picked up when I was out in Bend. They are pretty short.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/16/22
I just looked in Speer #15 in loading notes for 220 Swift.

Speer specifically recommends 1 in 10 inch twist for the 70 gr SMP. Muzzle velocities range to over 3400 fps with slow powders. Speer states that 14 inch twist will stabilize their 55 gr bullets.

In regards to the 22-250, Speer makes the same cautionary statement that :"As a general rule" a 10 inch twist is required to stabilize the 70 gr SMP.

I can make no claims one way or the other from personal experience. I have not shot that bullet.
Posted By: GeorgeLa Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/16/22
Bought a Ruger 77 HB 220 Swift in 1977, made in 1976 and barrel is stamped accordingly. It was stunningly accurate when new. After a few thousand very hot loads accuracy has fallen off but will still easy shoot under an inch. I made many one shot kills on mule deer with a bullet not recommended for big game. It did stabilize the Speer 70 grain, but I never shot a deer with it. I hope you like yours as well as I like mine.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/16/22
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
I just looked in Speer #15 in loading notes for 220 Swift.

Speer specifically recommends 1 in 10 inch twist for the 70 gr SMP. Muzzle velocities range to over 3400 fps with slow powders. Speer states that 14 inch twist will stabilize their 55 gr bullets.

In regards to the 22-250, Speer makes the same cautionary statement that :"As a general rule" a 10 inch twist is required to stabilize the 70 gr SMP.

I can make no claims one way or the other from personal experience. I have not shot that bullet.
Wonder what 10 twist was around when that bullet came out many moons ago?
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/16/22
The recommendation is for 12" twist in 223/556. (yes, I know)

But it leads one to wonder if 12" 223 barrels were available at the time the 70 gr SMP was introduced.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/16/22
My Hornady 3rd Edition 3rd printing, (1981/1982) had 12 twist for their 223 and from what I can find the 12 twist was standard for the 223.

Of course tighter for military applications and heavier projectiles.

Thinking more about this I seem to remember chatter of the 60 grain Partition not stabilizing in a 22-250 with 14 twist. May be because not enough twist or guys not loading them hot and a Partition seems to like some gas underneath of it.

The Speer is a little longer but some stuff I have found, and the 222 my pard had they seem to shoot. I guess it's one of those have to try it to see if they will shoot.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/17/22
The partition with the gilding metal section is a bit longer than a typical lead core bullet.

My experience, as previously noted, is the 60 gr Hornady spire point is the longest bullet I could ever get to stabilize in 14 inch twist. Even when pushed to the firewall in the 22-250.

I would be very surprised to see a 60 gr partition stabilize in any 14 inch twist barrel.
Posted By: 603Country Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/17/22
I have a Ruger 77V in 220 that I bought off a New Mexico cowboy. He had the barrel cut to 20” so he could put it on the dash of his old truck. I still have it, though it’s on barrel #2. I’ve tried a lot of bullets in it over the years. The heaviest one that stabilized was the 63 gr Sierra SMP. The 60 gr Nosler Partition almost stabilized. It worked in some climate conditions. What didn’t work was any bullet longer than those. Probably if I had loaded the 60 gr Partition hotter and from a 26” barrel, the Partition would have stabilized.

If you want to shoot that 65 gr Sierra, Ain’t no way in that 14 twist. I tried it. I have no idea where the bullets went at 100 yards.
Posted By: SS336 Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/17/22
I have not had very good luck with anything over 55gr in my Ruger 77V. It was made in ‘75 and is very accurate with 52gr Sierra MKs so that’s what I shoot mostly. We have a 2” gong at 200yds at my range and hitting it with this rifle is so easy my Grandkids do can do it.
Longer heavier bullets just won’t shoot well in this rifle. It’s a good honest old varmint rifle with a Canjar trigger and 12x Leopold scope, at my age I doubt I will ever rebarrel it, but if I did I would go with a faster twist barrel for sure.

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Posted By: stxhunter Re: Ruger M77 220 swift - 07/17/22
Originally Posted by SS336
I have not had very good luck with anything over 55gr in my Ruger 77V. It was made in ‘75 and is very accurate with 52gr Sierra MKs so that’s what I shoot mostly. We have a 2” gong at 200yds at my range and hitting it with this rifle is so easy my Grandkids do can do it.
Longer heavier bullets just won’t shoot well in this rifle. It’s a good honest old varmint rifle with a Canjar trigger and 12x Leopold scope, at my age I doubt I will ever rebarrel it, but if I did I would go with a faster twist barrel for sure.

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Looks just like the one I'm getting.
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