I think he is actually fairly conservative and would be a decent President. He’s probably on the long list who could win the general against Slow Joe. He is, however, devoid of charisma and I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance of winning the primary.
I think he is actually fairly conservative and would be a decent President. He’s probably on the long list who could win the general against Slow Joe. He is, however, devoid of charisma and I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance of winning the primary.
He likes to play by the rules when nobody else is, we need a man that will fight like a MF and be willing to give his life to this country if necessary.
The Republic needs a guy like Teddy Roosevelt or George Patton for President to beat the hell out of the communists that are in charge at this time.
He won't win the nomination. Like someone else said no charisma.
I don’t think he can win either, but as I stated in the op, with the support and the backing of the Republican Establishment, he might be able to steal it.
I will vote for any Republican over any Democrat in the general election. Sitting home because you are pisssed that your man did not win the primary will not save this country
Now that said Pence is one of the last people I would vote for in a primary.
If he gets the party's nom. it will be a gift for the D's.
Will have to vote though,surely can't vote for Al Gore.
Originally Posted by keith
He likes to play by the rules when nobody else is, we need a man that will fight like a MF and be willing to give his life to this country if necessary.
The Republic needs a guy like Teddy Roosevelt or George Patton for President to beat the hell out of the communists that are in charge at this time.
He is tripping to Iowa to start his run at the 2024 Presidential nomination.
It appears that Pence is going to be the RNC, Republican Establishment’s choice.
He will most likely get Jebed, but if by chance he can steal the nomination, Will you vote for him in the General?
Make it how it then would most likely come down...Mike Pence or Kamala Harris. There can be only one. Or how much of your nose do you want to cut off...
I think he is actually fairly conservative and would be a decent President. He’s probably on the long list who could win the general against Slow Joe. He is, however, devoid of charisma and I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance of winning the primary.
Pence is done he betrayed President Trump and us F__k him !
Pence didn't betray anybody. He was one of the most loyal Trump supporters. Trump tried to get him to overturn the electoral votes, and it would have been AGAINST THE LAW to do that. The VP has no power to reject electoral votes, after they have been certified by the states, but only to count them.
That said, I would vote for Pence against any democrat if Pence got the nomination but would probably not vote for him in the primary.
Maybe Pence has no plans to actually capture the Nomination, but rather demonize Trump with lies and “I was there” stories during the campaign and the debates.
His whole RNC funded campaign may be just that, a Never-Trumper tour.
He is tripping to Iowa to start his run at the 2024 Presidential nomination.
It appears that Pence is going to be the RNC, Republican Establishment’s choice.
He will most likely get Jebed, but if by chance he can steal the nomination, Will you vote for him in the General?
Make it how it then would most likely come down...Mike Pence or Kamala Harris. There can be only one. Or how much of your nose do you want to cut off...
Pence is done he betrayed President Trump and us F__k him !
Pence didn't betray anybody. He was one of the most loyal Trump supporters. Trump tried to get him to overturn the electoral votes, and it would have been AGAINST THE LAW to do that. The VP has no power to reject electoral votes, after they have been certified by the states, but only to count them.
Pence was not asked to over turn anything but rather send the votes back to the states to be "double checked" because of the obvious voter fraud......like in the state of Georgia where enough dead people and non-residents voted to give Biden his 12,000 vote "win".
Had that not gone anywhere, then yeah, he would have had to just count them.
I often wonder if it had not been for the riot on January 6th what would have happened with all that.....and if that was the reason the riot was instigated by people like Ray Epps and the cops who left doors open and ushered people in.....as well as the ANTIFA agent provocateurs.
Pence is done he betrayed President Trump and us F__k him !
Pence didn't betray anybody. He was one of the most loyal Trump supporters. Trump tried to get him to overturn the electoral votes, and it would have been AGAINST THE LAW to do that.
You are an idiot, cancel your subscriptions to CNN and MSNBC and get your head out of your ass
Maybe Pence has no plans to actually capture the Nomination, but rather demonize Trump with lies and “I was there” stories during the campaign and the debates.
His whole RNC funded campaign may be just that, a Never-Trumper tour.
There's more at play here. He knows he's not popular. He endorsed someone and they promptly lost. Who would fund his campaign? I think the bad guys are trying to split a vote, but that doesn't make sense either. He said his policies mirrored those of President Trump. He's an unintelligent deadpan tool.
Pence is done he betrayed President Trump and us F__k him !
Pence didn't betray anybody. He was one of the most loyal Trump supporters. Trump tried to get him to overturn the electoral votes, and it would have been AGAINST THE LAW to do that.
You are an idiot, cancel your subscriptions to CNN and MSNBC and get your head out of your ass
No kidding.
He didnt contest the states that broke the law in their respective states regarding the election, just like the Courts. Pennsylvania especially in that regard. The governor can't create election law.
And if he single handedly DID overturn them, where does the Constitution say he cannot? It doesn't.....
Dont let the commies tell you about the Constitution. They hate it and use it only to their advantage, ignore it and dream stuff up that isnt there for the same reasons, like this or separation of church and state, beach babies and abortion rights...
Pence’s entire staff was deep state leftists. He was chosen for the votes he could bring with him like all VP nominees. He is a worm and I won’t support him. He betrayed the president when he was most needed. That tells who he is. I have no doubt that the establishment would love to have his sorry ass but not with my help.
I think he is actually fairly conservative and would be a decent President. He’s probably on the long list who could win the general against Slow Joe. He is, however, devoid of charisma and I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance of winning the primary.
Plus 2.
He did an excellent job organizing things during the early stages of Covid emergency. Trump was the big mouth but Pense did most of the work ie. getting the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines into peoples arms just ASAP, getting the ventilators in the hands of hospitals, kicking the azz of the FDA, etc etc. He was a good #2 man and kept things moving ahead just as soon as possible.
Pence is done he betrayed President Trump and us F__k him !
Pence didn't betray anybody. He was one of the most loyal Trump supporters. Trump tried to get him to overturn the electoral votes, and it would have been AGAINST THE LAW to do that. The VP has no power to reject electoral votes, after they have been certified by the states, but only to count them.
That said, I would vote for Pence against any democrat if Pence got the nomination but would probably not vote for him in the primary.
Pence’s entire staff was deep state leftists. He was chosen for the votes he could bring with him like all VP nominees. He is a worm and I won’t support him. He betrayed the president when he was most needed. That tells who he is. I have no doubt that the establishment would love to have his sorry ass but not with my help.
Pence’s entire staff was deep state leftists. He was chosen for the votes he could bring with him like all VP nominees. He is a worm and I won’t support him. He betrayed the president when he was most needed. That tells who he is. I have no doubt that the establishment would love to have his sorry ass but not with my help.
If Pence was running against Gavin Newsom, you wouldn't vote at all?
At this point , if that POS gets nominated , I see one choice , go all in and every swinging dick vote dem and get it over with . Bring it to a confrontation. Tired of the GD lies and staging . Keep fugging around and we will simply lose more people to stand . It ain’t getting any better by the day for any of us . Kenneth
The whole leftist dem vs. dem light has me feeling pretty unrepresented.
If Biden and Kamalatoe are the alternative, I'm inclined to concentrate more on local and state matters in hopes of thwarting the efforts of the national uni-party.
And I zero qualms about Not Voting for Marsha Blackburn and Mark Green.
Blackburn voted to certify, hell with her. Told her office kxunts I would remember. She aint up for a while but Mark Green is a douche anti Hydroxychloroquine, anti ivermectin cox sucker rhino with big pharm investments.
Pence is running so he can 'lose with grace and dignity' to the Democratic nominee, just like JEB Bush was going to do against Hillary Clinton. He can pound sand, I'll never vote for him.
It's the republican establishment that is pushing for him. He was was the key note speaker at the Republican convention on Mackinac Island last summer, promoted by none other than the Michigan Republican party chairman.
I’m thinking that he’s an evangelical version of daddy Bush and a bit smarter than Bush Jr and a hundred times smarter than jackazz Jeb. But then, that’s not saying much is it?
Since it’s all deep state why vote for the stooge that the GOP nominated unless he he a dark horse like Trump?
Everybody calm your ass down. Both parties need to flesh out a roster of candidate to take to Iowa and New Hamshire to make things look like there is a wealth of likely people for voters to choose from. They play "the Usual Suspects". Any senator or Congress with a name. Former VPs get in the mix, any state governors with a name. They all get backing and get sent to Iowa and New Hampshire even when there is a clear favorite. Normally, there are one or 2 favorites and the rest are window dressing.
Look at 1980. Anybody remember that Reagan was so far ahead in the polls he didn't even bother to show up for the early debates? True. When Hillary ran in 2008, the Dems threw the weakest bunch they could, thinking Hillary was a shoe in. Barak Obama hustled in Iowa, impressing the white people by being a black guy that sounded White. He got so much traction in Iowa and New Hampshire, the Kennedys backed him in order to defeat Hillary. (true)
2016 - to make SURE Hillary was not upset again, the Dems ran the weakes field possible. Battschit Crazy Liz Warren, a 100 year old real communisit in Bernne Sanders, and some cum sucking slut named Kamala. Point is, they still filled out the field even stackingthe deck for Hillary.
If Trump runs, he will get the nomination. Everybody knows and acknowledges it. Even Hillary by god Clinton was on TV saying that some months go. These others that will be asked to run will be there only for window dressing if Trump runs, because it will keep the GOP race in news, or to shake out a front runner if Trump decides not to run.
Everybody calm your ass down. Both parties need to flesh out a roster of candidate to take to Iowa and New Hamshire to make things look like there is a wealth of likely people for voters to choose from. They play "the Usual Suspects". Any senator or Congress with a name. Former VPs get in the mix, any state governors with a name. They all get backing and get sent to Iowa and New Hampshire even when there is a clear favorite. Normally, there are one or 2 favorites and the rest are window dressing.
Look at 1980. Anybody remember that Reagan was so far ahead in the polls he didn't even bother to show up for the early debates? True. When Hillary ran in 2008, the Dems threw the weakest bunch they could, thinking Hillary was a shoe in. Barak Obama hustled in Iowa, impressing the white people by being a black guy that sounded White. He got so much traction in Iowa and New Hampshire, the Kennedys backed him in order to defeat Hillary. (true)
2016 - to make SURE Hillary was not upset again, the Dems ran the weakes field possible. Battschit Crazy Liz Warren, a 100 year old real communisit in Bernne Sanders, and some cum sucking slut named Kamala. Point is, they still filled out the field even stackingthe deck for Hillary.
If Trump runs, he will get the nomination. Everybody knows and acknowledges it. Even Hillary by god Clinton was on TV saying that some months go. These others that will be asked to run will be there only for window dressing if Trump runs, because it will keep the GOP race in news, or to shake out a front runner if Trump decides not to run.
Pence’s entire staff was deep state leftists. He was chosen for the votes he could bring with him like all VP nominees. He is a worm and I won’t support him. He betrayed the president when he was most needed. That tells who he is. I have no doubt that the establishment would love to have his sorry ass but not with my help.
If Pence was running against Gavin Newsom, you wouldn't vote at all?
There you go. If it is Pence vs Socialist Mommy's Boy Gavin, the new President will be one, or the other. Y'alls wonderful third party candidates will go the way of Ross Perot, into the garbage can of History.
Both the Dems and the media (same thing) want a showdown between Trump and DeSantis. It'll give them the best ratings and their hope will be that they will destroy each other and whoever moves forward will be bloody enough to beat.
Anyone who would refuse to vote for the Rep presidential candidate over the Dem candidate because your favorite didn't get the nomination is cutting off their nose to spite their face. Which would you trust to select the next Supreme Court Justice? That's one of the most important jobs the president has. If you're a 2A or Pro Life guy, you have got to still go with the Republican candidate. Not to do so is stupid.
I won’t vote for Pence in the primary if he is on the ballot, but in the general election, I will vote for whoever is the Republican nominee. [bleep] the democrat socialist, communist a—holes!!!
I won’t vote for Pence in the primary if he is on the ballot, but in the general election, I will vote for whoever is the Republican nominee. [bleep] the democrat socialist, communist a—holes!!!
I’m 51 and I’ve voted in every presidential election (and most others) since I turned 18 but until president Trump came along I had NEVER voted FOR a candidate, I always voted against the other guy. I was forced to hold my nose, to varying degrees, and vote for the least worst candidate. I had long thought about what it would take for a DC outsider or regular citizen to get elected president and I figured that it would be impossible….virtually impossible anyway. I just didn’t think that there were any mechanisms in place that would allow someone that wasn’t a politician to be taken seriously. I knew that the internal forces within the Beltway were dark, evil forces and they alone chose our leaders for us. They might try to give the impression that we have a choice but that’s mostly done to placate the sheep. Then Trump came along…
I grew up hearing or reading about Trump and his opulent tales of woe, usually from a National Enquirer headline while standing in the line at the grocery store and I was never impressed. In most all ways Trump and I are 180 degrees opposite one another, his “style”, his attitude…..virtually everything he does are things I either wouldn’t do or I’d do differently. I found so much about him and his life to be unappealing to me that I never cared for him. His 3 kids were different, I did respect them at least based on the interviews and other stories about them that I had seen or read.
Despite my preconceived ideas about Trump I was onboard the Trump for president train as early as anyone. Of all the stuff I believed about Trump or had read about him the one thing that I never questioned was his love for this country. For whatever reason at the time, right or wrong, I believed that Trump was a Patriot and thankfully I was right. By the time we got done with Obongo we were in the throes of an impending Klinton regime when thankfully a PATRIOTIC, wealthy, brash, New York narcissist showed up out of nowhere and successfully battled the demonic Klinton. Trump was exactly what was needed and he gave us a glimpse at what could be. He proved to me that he has his priorities for this country in order and he’s showed us what a real president looks like. Trump is not perfect and he made some mistakes. I’m willing to forgive mistakes when those mistakes are a direct result of NOT being a politician. While Trump is an outsider unfortunately that doesn’t mean that his cabinet will be. The system that DC has in place isn’t setup to allow outsiders in, it doesn’t want citizens ruining their business. The process of “vetting” alone can take months and months. It’s impossible to be president and have a cabinet and staff that are not politicians and once you’ve polluted your administration by employing politicians you’ve subjected yourself to all the filth, disease and bad decisions that politicians are known for.
I’ll always vote!….However I don’t have any illusion that my vote counts, that my vote is actually counted or that voting is used at all in determining our president. Our system has been stolen and corrupted and we have to take it back but even though it’s broken and it probably doesn’t matter I’ll still vote…..until they take that too.
Anyone who would refuse to vote for the Rep presidential candidate over the Dem candidate because your favorite didn't get the nomination is cutting off their nose to spite their face. Which would you trust to select the next Supreme Court Justice? That's one of the most important jobs the president has. If you're a 2A or Pro Life guy, you have got to still go with the Republican candidate. Not to do so is stupid.
Then you don’t know who Pence really is, one of the globalist, not a Christian!
Voted for Nixon in '72 and have voted in every election since, never for the Democrat. Did vote Libertarian in '92 against GHWB, and Libertarian in '96 when Clinton beat Dole. I repented and since the have voted for the Republican, even McCain and Romney (that one I almost didn't).
The republicans can sure put up some bad candidates (Reagan and Trump excepted).
Both the Dems and the media (same thing) want a showdown between Trump and DeSantis. It'll give them the best ratings and their hope will be that they will destroy each other and whoever moves forward will be bloody enough to beat.
If Trump, DeSantis and their advisors are smart, they won't do that. That's a poorly veiled demoRAT trap that I would hope wouldn't be touched with a 10 ft pole.
Voted for Nixon in '72 and have voted in every election since, never for the Democrat. Did vote Libertarian in '92 against GHWB, and Libertarian in '96 when Clinton beat Dole. I repented and since the have voted for the Republican, even McCain and Romney (that one I almost didn't).
The republicans can sure put up some bad candidates (Reagan and Trump excepted).
Despite my preconceived ideas about Trump I was onboard the Trump for president train as early as anyone. Of all the stuff I believed about Trump or had read about him the one thing that I never questioned was his love for this country. For whatever reason at the time, right or wrong, I believed that Trump was a Patriot and thankfully I was right. By the time we got done with Obongo we were in the throes of an impending Klinton regime when thankfully a PATRIOTIC, wealthy, brash, New York narcissist showed up out of nowhere and successfully battled the demonic Klinton. Trump was exactly what was needed and he gave us a glimpse at what could be. He proved to me that he has his priorities for this country in order and he’s showed us what a real president looks like. Trump is not perfect and he made some mistakes. I’m willing to forgive mistakes when those mistakes are a direct result of NOT being a politician.
Unless the Dems pull some secret weapon out of a hat, they have nobody worth a damn and nothing to run on. They're strategy is simple - eliminate Trump, get you to protest against voting out of a sense of integrity, cheat more, or a combination of those.
He is a Benedict Arnold who I dont trust but if Between him and a democrat I’ll vote for him cause i trust him just a red c___ hair more than a democrat
Anyone who would refuse to vote for the Rep presidential candidate over the Dem candidate because your favorite didn't get the nomination is cutting off their nose to spite their face. Which would you trust to select the next Supreme Court Justice? That's one of the most important jobs the president has. If you're a 2A or Pro Life guy, you have got to still go with the Republican candidate. Not to do so is stupid.
Used to think like that, but the curtains have been pulled back and they strangely look alike . If you ain’t seeing that , grab a soda and some pop corn . It actually has been obvious for quite some time , but you can only give benefit of doubt for so long . Taxes , that far enough back for ya ? Kenneth
You know how you think you are observing one thing and the whole time you think to yourself there is something here that doesn't seem right? The whole Trump administration I kept expecting Pence to turn on Trump or in some way undermine his efforts. But Pence appeared to stay the course and support Trump all the while potraying an emotionless, milk toast personna. Never in opposition but never enthusiatic about the great things happening on the economic and world affairs theater. Well now we know why. Pence was there to keep an eye on Trump and keep the uniparty informed of Trump's next move. I dont think Pence is what he appears to be.