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Posted By: DigitalDan USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/04/22
Might be old news, just saw it today.

https://sportsmensalliance.org/news/biden-administration-moves-to-ban-lead-ammunition/
Posted By: scrooster Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/04/22
Another move to make ammo unaffordable to most.

Put this in the same category as banning lead wheel weights.

In the meantime, the more you know about rolling your own the better off you will be in the long run.

If we ever come-up with a surefire, non-corrosive, way to mfg our own primers it's game over for the anti-ammo libtard gameplan.

There are already 3x more reloaders out here than there were just five year ago according to the NSSF.

We're recycling lead acid batteries (to cast boolits) ... which is good for the environment btw.

And, eventually, you'll see more and more home press and lathing operations doing our own home pressing and spinning off copper wire and jacketed boolits.

You cannot stop 2A loving American ingenuity.
Posted By: Swifty52 Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/04/22
It’s worse than that DD, bans the use of lead ammo of any kind for any purpose.

Senate Bill 4157

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2022-06-09/pdf/2022-12463.pdf
Posted By: TimberRunner Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/04/22
It's just an attempt to harm hunting culture. They see this as a generational fight and they are winning incrementally.
Posted By: slumlord Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
I’ve been breaking lead down last few afternoons. Old roof flashings and lead water service

It’s very dirty, initial melts just to get the tar and asbestos separated

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I like quench my lead with a Tennessee temper

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Posted By: Macmat Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Damn I though I could move away from this bullsh*t smh 🤦‍♂️
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
I said long ago the Feds would one day ban all hunting and fishing on all Federal lands. USFWS has long been anti-hunting and anti-firearms.

After all, if you can't hunt, you don't need any firearms, right?

Inch by inch by inch by inch.

L.W.
Posted By: MartinStrummer Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Got about 180 pounds of reclaimed wheel weights

Stuff's hard to cone by.
I designed a lead dripper and a buddy built it for me.
It only makes #8's.

Sadly, again, I have a 12 and 20 gauge MEC. I only shoot 16 gauge! 😖
Posted By: Higginez Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Fuggin Californians....
Posted By: TimberRunner Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by Higginez
Fuggin Californians....


Leading the charge
Posted By: ConradCA Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
CA has had a ban on hunting with lead ammo for years. The used lead poisoning in condors as an excuse. Now that people aren’t hunting with lead you think that they would study this issue again and cancel the lead ban if the lead in condor blood hasn’t changed.
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
I think, some people may forget that lead comes from the earth.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by Hammerdown
I think, some people may forget that lead comes from the earth.
Well, let's not forget.

So does arsenic, cobalt, uranium, radon gas, and a whole host of other nasties.

But, that's not really the issue.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by SCRooster
Another move to make ammo unaffordable to most.

Put this in the same category as banning lead wheel weights.

In the meantime, the more you know about rolling your own the better off you will be in the long run.

If we ever come-up with a surefire, non-corrosive, way to mfg our own primers it's game over for the anti-ammo libtard gameplan.

There are already 3x more reloaders out here than there were just five year ago according to the NSSF.

We're recycling lead acid batteries (to cast boolits) ... which is good for the environment btw.

And, eventually, you'll see more and more home press and lathing operations doing our own home pressing and spinning off copper wire and jacketed boolits.

You cannot stop 2A loving American ingenuity.

Amen! 👍👍
Posted By: Bushwacker Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
I didn't shoot the deer cause I was hunting it sir, I shot it in self defense. It charged me and those were self defense rounds. Since it was dead I figured I'd just put my tag on it, rather than shoot another one with these here all copper bullets.....
Posted By: UpThePole Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Have used only Barnes for 30 years.
Never lost an animal.
Have yet to use a box of bullets.
One animal took 2 shots.
The real issue is lead birdshot. not bullets but you cannot expect government drones to be intelligent.
Posted By: 1minute Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Been that way for years water fowling on our local refuge.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
They can have my bullets, one at a time...
Posted By: slumlord Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
I had to pull back on all my torch smelting

My fingers are tingling and im shîtting blood

Sheesh
Posted By: dale06 Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by UpThePole
Have used only Barnes for 30 years.
Never lost an animal.
Have yet to use a box of bullets.
One animal took 2 shots.
The real issue is lead birdshot. not bullets but you cannot expect government drones to be intelligent.


Have you ever shot 700+ rounds in a weekend prairie dog shoot? That’s a lot of Barnes copper bullets.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
I had to pull back on all my torch smelting

My fingers are tingling and im shîtting blood

Sheesh
How's the coughing?
Posted By: slumlord Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by slumlord
I had to pull back on all my torch smelting

My fingers are tingling and im shîtting blood

Sheesh
How's the coughing?


Coughing ? i ain’t had none of that. This aint ass pox
Posted By: slumlord Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Could be that 35 gallon concoction I was spraying yesterday.

2-4,D
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Dawn
Cypermethrin
Posted By: Valsdad Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by dale06
Originally Posted by UpThePole
Have used only Barnes for 30 years.
Never lost an animal.
Have yet to use a box of bullets.
One animal took 2 shots.
The real issue is lead birdshot. not bullets but you cannot expect government drones to be intelligent.


Have you ever shot 700+ rounds in a weekend prairie dog shoot? That’s a lot of Barnes copper bullets.
For now, that's not an issue as you're likely talking about private land.

For now, the rule they're trying to pass is for National Wildlife Refuges. As 1minute noted, the rule has been in effect for them for years for waterfowl. But not for upland birds or game animals. The majority of refuges are primarily waterfowl hunting only.

When/if the feds try to outlaw ammunition containing lead on ALL fed lands, then it will be a real issue. As others have pointed out, nose under the tent thing.

Perhaps, someday in the future, they will attempt at banning it on private lands also. Maybe under the claim that the game and non game animals belong to the People (except perhaps high fence operations).
Posted By: Valsdad Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by slumlord
I had to pull back on all my torch smelting

My fingers are tingling and im shîtting blood

Sheesh
How's the coughing?


Coughing ? i ain’t had none of that. This aint ass pox

Well, breathing that Mt Dew/lead vapor steam takes awhile to kick in.

Coughing will probably start next week or so.
Posted By: UpThePole Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
So Barnes cost 2x Sierras.

How much are your truck payments ?
How much did the gas cost to get to the hunt ?
Food, Lodging ?

If you can't afford bullets, try a crossbow, far more sporting.

BTW what was the last time some official checked your ammo ?
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Hammerdown
I think, some people may forget that lead comes from the earth.
Well, let's not forget.

So does arsenic, cobalt, uranium, radon gas, and a whole host of other nasties.

But, that's not really the issue.
Copy that.
Posted By: IZH27 Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
What basic lathe would be necessary for one to turn/produce his own solids? What would be necessary to accurately transition the solids to HP’s?
Posted By: rainshot Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Could do it on a Hardinge second operation lathe if set up right using bar stock.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
If this dumbschit carry,s over to hunting on FTCKY
I will just switch over to federal trophy copper sabot slugs for the Savage 220
Bout 6 clicks down and 6 clicks left from the rem accutips zero.
Have to look at my pic if the time comes.


Honk for Joey....
And his enlightened lackeys who love their power in their little utopian dream world.

😠😠😠
Posted By: renegade50 Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by UpThePole
So Barnes cost 2x Sierras.

How much are your truck payments ?
How much did the gas cost to get to the hunt ?
Food, Lodging ?

If you can't afford bullets, try a crossbow, far more sporting.

BTW what was the last time some official checked your ammo ?
X bow is for fatt fuggs with Vietnamese pot bellied pig belly,s like Barnabus/ Bill Stallings who cant draw a bow and release it without getting string slap on their gut or moobs....

Just in case your out their lurking Billy...
You fuuucked up homes last Sept.

🤗🤗🤗
🤣🤣🤣
Posted By: ingwe Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Won't comply.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Lol!!!!

70 pd draw weight bow and string slap on a moob nipple is probably one painful mofo...

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Posted By: slumlord Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Federal game warden checks my shotshells

Every time, we dove out there. Get a ticket just for having #6
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/05/22
Here's a thought.

Suppose the bill passes and of course, is signed by Beijing Biden. How can it be enforced with millions of hunters out on Federal lands? Well, it is easier than one might think ... so long as you adjust your mindset to that of a good America hating Democrat. Here's how they think.

As millions of hunters' firearms and ammunition would have to be constantly examined every day of hunting seasons throughout the United States, it necessarily would require hiring hundreds of thousands more Federal employees to enforce the "Hunters' Lead Free Bullet Possession Act."

There are hundreds of thousands of unemployed welfare cheats who would jump at the chance to be a sworn Federal officer carrying a gun and the authority to use it if he or she felt threatened by a right wing reactionary red neck running dog capitalist pig lead ammo carrying hunter, and be able at a moments notice to gun down the "resistor." Maybe a starting salary of $95,000.00 per year with possibility of rapid advancement, 20 weeks of paid vacation time, free medical and hospitalization, a nice, free 4x4 to drive, and the comradeship of fellow peers... which would include free beer. Not bad duty, huh?

That is how Democrats would enforce the "lead free ban."

L.W.
Posted By: TimberRunner Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/06/22
Originally Posted by UpThePole
BTW what was the last time some official checked your ammo ?

Probably every second or third time I duck hunt on a WMA.
Posted By: UpThePole Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/06/22
LOL, what happened to the dog shoot ?
Posted By: blanket Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/06/22
Originally Posted by UpThePole
Have used only Barnes for 30 years.
Never lost an animal.
Have yet to use a box of bullets.
One animal took 2 shots.
The real issue is lead birdshot. not bullets but you cannot expect government drones to be intelligent.
What a nozzle you are
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/06/22
Dude.
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/06/22
What happened to, America The Free?

What the heck is this place coming to?
Posted By: Caplock Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/23/22
[quote=slumlord]Could be that 35 gallon concoction I was spraying yesterday.

2-4,D
Gly4
Dawn
Cypermethrin[


What was your target.....interesting tank mix!
Posted By: luv2safari Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/24/22
Originally Posted by dale06
Originally Posted by UpThePole
Have used only Barnes for 30 years.
Never lost an animal.
Have yet to use a box of bullets.
One animal took 2 shots.
The real issue is lead birdshot. not bullets but you cannot expect government drones to be intelligent.


Have you ever shot 700+ rounds in a weekend prairie dog shoot? That’s a lot of Barnes copper bullets.

That's a lot of lead shot onto and into the ground. Hang your head in shame.


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Posted By: luv2safari Re: USFWS LEAD BAN - 08/24/22
One lead core bullet used will have a devastating environmental effect here.
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