Wind River Reservation is a sad and desolate place, full of grief, anguish, poverty and addiction. Today's news feed:
The Wyoming Division of Criminal Investigation’s Missing Persons page indicates seven Native American teenagers have gone missing this summer in Fremont County.
The most recent case was reported Aug. 24 – the day Leland Fightingbear, 16, was last seen on the Wind River Reservation.
Fightingbear is 5 feet, 11 inches tall, weighs 177 pounds, and has brown eyes, brown hair, braces, and a memorial tattoo on his left leg. Advertisement
Anyone with information about Fightingbear is asked to contact the Bureau of Indian Affairs at 332-3112 or DCI at 777-7181.
Rhylee Lynn Brown, 15, was last seen in Riverton on Aug. 22.
She is 5 feet, 4 inches tall, weighs 130 pounds, and has brown eyes and shoulder-length straight brown hair.
Anyone with information about Brown should contact DCI or the Riverton Police Department at 856-4891.
Shawn-Dean Shadowwolf Brown, 17, was reported missing Aug. 22, having last been seen on the Wind River Indian Reservation. Advertisement
He is 6 feet, 4 inches tall, weighs 190 pounds, and has brown eyes, brown hair, and one pierced ear.
Anyone with information about him should call the BIA or DCI.
Eagle Eyez Anthony Coulston, 15, was last seen on the Wind River Indian Reservation on Aug. 11.
He is 5 feet, 8 inches tall, weighs 120 pounds, and has brown eyes and black hair.
Anyone with information about Coulston should call the BIA or DCI.
Wyoma Ghostbear, 16, was last seen in Fremont County on Aug. 11.
She is 5 feet, 6 inches tall, weighs 154 pounds, and has brown eyes and brown hear.
Anyone with information about Ghostbear is asked to call the DCI or the Fremont County Sheriff’s Office at 332-5611.
Eternity Yellowfox, 14, was last seen in Fremont County on Aug. 2.
She is 5 feet, 7 inches tall, weigh 120 pounds, and has brown eyes and brown hair.
Anyone with information about Yellowfox should call DCI or the FCSO.
Daniel Kenneth Manzanares, 17, was last seen in Riverton on July 22.
He is 5 feet, 7 inches tall, weighs 130 pounds, and has brown eyes and black hair.
Anyone with information about Manzanares should call the RPD or DCI.
What’s the ol Rez tribal council have to say??? I remember years ago the Oregonian did a piece on the Warm Springs Indian reservation. It’s like how you described the Wind River rez. Anyhow it was several parts, the jist of it was why a community 15 miles from Madras Oregon had such a high Suicide rate, high unemployment, high rape cases, incest cases etc, compared to Madras. Oh I know why madras full of white folks who have hope, the rez offers none of that. Well the tribal council was all up in arms how dare they write articles so damaging to the reservation. They wanted the articles stopped and pretend it’s Shangri-La on the reservation. So imagine the Wind River crew same way..
I drove through a big rez in South Dakota one January day. We don't have any big reservations like that down here in Dixie, Good God I never had seen anything like it. Abandoned trailers and cars everywhere, six inches of snow piled up here and there, covered with dirt. A few drunk Indians sprawled out on front porches. A few raggedy children running around. What a depressing place to be.
I have spent a lot of time in black housing projects in Georgia on ambulance calls, but a Georgia housing project looks like Disneyland compared to the South Dakota rez.
I drove through a big rez in South Dakota one January day. We don't have any big reservations like that down here in Dixie, Good God I never had seen anything like it. Abandoned trailers and cars everywhere, six inches of snow piled up here and there, covered with dirt. A few drunk Indians sprawled out on front porches. A few raggedy children running around.
I have spent a lot of time in black housing projects in Georgia on ambulance calls, but a Georgia housing project looks like Disneyland compared to the South Dakota rez.
Sounds like the Pine Ridge Rez. It’s a Schitthole.
Used to be a ton of Prairie Dogs there to shoot, if you knew the right folks. Haven’t been back through there in 20 years or more.
My buddy lived in South Dakota. On our tour of the rez we stopped to look at an Indian graveyard. It was fascinating to see all the Indian names on the graves, there on the snowy, wind blown prairie. Not many trees. Lots of grave markers of Indians dying young, in their teens and twenties.
In a few minutes at the graveyard, buddy said we better get up and go. He said a car load of young Indians might drive up, and not appreciate our presence there. We left.
I drove through a big rez in South Dakota one January day. We don't have any big reservations like that down here in Dixie, Good God I never had seen anything like it. Abandoned trailers and cars everywhere, six inches of snow piled up here and there, covered with dirt. A few drunk Indians sprawled out on front porches. A few raggedy children running around.
I have spent a lot of time in black housing projects in Georgia on ambulance calls, but a Georgia housing project looks like Disneyland compared to the South Dakota rez.
Sounds like the Pine Ridge Rez. It’s a Schitthole.
Used to be a ton of Prairie Dogs there to shoot, if you knew the right folks. Haven’t been back through there in 20 years or more.
I drove through a big rez in South Dakota one January day. We don't have any big reservations like that down here in Dixie, Good God I never had seen anything like it. Abandoned trailers and cars everywhere, six inches of snow piled up here and there, covered with dirt. A few drunk Indians sprawled out on front porches. A few raggedy children running around. What a depressing place to be.
I have spent a lot of time in black housing projects in Georgia on ambulance calls, but a Georgia housing project looks like Disneyland compared to the South Dakota rez.
Pine Ridge? I first drove through it in 2011. It was appalling. I went home and told folks that Campti Louisiana was the garden of Eden by comparison. You would have to have been to Campti to understand how bad Campti is.
My father took the family off a reservation when I was very small. He never looked back. The ones I come in contact the most, in the west, are seething pits of meth and despair sprinkled in with a few native “officials” who have cheated the government and the people to live big.
I drove through a big rez in South Dakota one January day. We don't have any big reservations like that down here in Dixie, Good God I never had seen anything like it. Abandoned trailers and cars everywhere, six inches of snow piled up here and there, covered with dirt. A few drunk Indians sprawled out on front porches. A few raggedy children running around.
I have spent a lot of time in black housing projects in Georgia on ambulance calls, but a Georgia housing project looks like Disneyland compared to the South Dakota rez.
Sounds like the Pine Ridge Rez. It’s a Schitthole.
Used to be a ton of Prairie Dogs there to shoot, if you knew the right folks. Haven’t been back through there in 20 years or more.
It might have been Pine Ridge. I just looked it up on the map and I see it is right on the Nebraska border. I remember something about they couldn't buy booze on the rez, but could buy it in Nebraska. The Indians would make the short drive and fill up the car trunk with cases of Nebraska beer.
It might have been Pine Ridge. I just looked it up on the map and I see it is right on the Nebraska border. I remember something about they couldn't buy booze on the rez, but could buy it in Nebraska. The Indians would make the short drive and fill up the car trunk with cases of Nebraska beer.
From day one there were places that sold liquor within spitting distance of the Rez borders where natives could buy.
It might have been Pine Ridge. I just looked it up on the map and I see it is right on the Nebraska border. I remember something about they couldn't buy booze on the rez, but could buy it in Nebraska. The Indians would make the short drive and fill up the car trunk with cases of Nebraska beer.
That’s Pine Ridge. The other is the Rose Bud. Both border Nebraska. And yes Whiteclay, a town of ~10 residents sold 3.5 million cans of beer per year.
If you can’t be the CEO of a big pharmaceutical company or a senator that has the ability to engage in insider trading like Nancy Piglosi then being an Indian chief is the next best thing. Corruption and grift are as essential to the modern Indian chief as being brave was to the old. The enormous sums of cash money that the tribes with casinos are awash in is sickening. There’s virtually ZERO oversight from their people and NONE from the federal government since the tribes are their own sovereign country.
It might have been Pine Ridge. I just looked it up on the map and I see it is right on the Nebraska border. I remember something about they couldn't buy booze on the rez, but could buy it in Nebraska. The Indians would make the short drive and fill up the car trunk with cases of Nebraska beer.
That’s Pine Ridge. The other is the Rose Bud. Both border Nebraska. And yes Whiteclay, a town of ~10 residents sold 3.5 million cans of beer per year.
White Clay sold 4.9million cans of beer in 2010. Not bad for a population of 14.
If you can’t be the CEO of a big pharmaceutical company or a senator that has the ability to engage in insider trading like Nancy Piglosi then being an Indian chief is the next best thing. Corruption and grift are as essential to the modern Indian chief as being brave was to the old. The enormous sums of cash money that the tribes with casinos are awash in is sickening. There’s virtually ZERO oversight from their people and NONE from the federal government since the tribes are their own sovereign country.
For some maybe most you are correct. Remember there are plenty of reservations that have no serious casino revenue. Location and external traffic flow won’t let it happen. There still are however great sums of money given by the government to these smaller tribes/reservations. These monies are squandered and stolen by the chiefs and tribal officials you speak of. Indians never should have been given money, tools and livestock and the land to use them on.
February of ‘84 I delivered a pickup truck load of blankets and winter clothing to Pine Ridge, part of materials collected by churches in Upstate NY.
I was looking at Grad Schools at the time, and my next destination was Fort Collins CO but there was a blizzard in the way, so I stayed over a few nights with some Traditionalists. I learned one of those guys died a few years later, I hope the rest are doing good.
What’s the ol Rez tribal council have to say??? I remember years ago the Oregonian did a piece on the Warm Springs Indian reservation. It’s like how you described the Wind River rez. Anyhow it was several parts, the jist of it was why a community 15 miles from Madras Oregon had such a high Suicide rate, high unemployment, high rape cases, incest cases etc, compared to Madras. Oh I know why madras full of white folks who have hope, the rez offers none of that. Well the tribal council was all up in arms how dare they write articles so damaging to the reservation. They wanted the articles stopped and pretend it’s Shangri-La on the reservation. So imagine the Wind River crew same way..
you should check out Yakama or Blackfoot or Crow Rez s then
What’s the ol Rez tribal council have to say??? I remember years ago the Oregonian did a piece on the Warm Springs Indian reservation. It’s like how you described the Wind River rez. Anyhow it was several parts, the jist of it was why a community 15 miles from Madras Oregon had such a high Suicide rate, high unemployment, high rape cases, incest cases etc, compared to Madras. Oh I know why madras full of white folks who have hope, the rez offers none of that. Well the tribal council was all up in arms how dare they write articles so damaging to the reservation. They wanted the articles stopped and pretend it’s Shangri-La on the reservation. So imagine the Wind River crew same way..
you should check out Yakama or Blackfoot or Crow Rez s then
I grew up on the reservation.. I been to toppenish, white swan, crow agency, white mtn Apache, Navajo reservation, warm springs Indian reservation, tohono o’ odham reservation. Oh forgot San Carlos
Yep, Warm Springs hasn’t changed any. They don’t want anything printed about them off the res that shows what’s going on. I was raised there and still live 15 miles from there.
My grandma had my CB handle picked out for me. I was Eagle Eyez
She was 1Little Indian
All grandmas in the South think they are 1/4 Cherokee.
That makes us cuzzins.. don’t tell renegade
My sister called me a couple years ago, she’d had one of those blood genealogy tests done and was all excited because we had Mongolian in our blood. I asked her just where did she think the land bridge during the last ice age ended in the east, France? I had a friend send her the link to Wolf Totem by the Hu. She didn’t find it amusing.
The Wind River is on par with the Blackfeet in Montana and a few others.....Holy hell what chitholes. The gov does them no favors by throwing money at them.
My sister called me a couple years ago, she’d had one of those blood genealogy tests done and was all excited because we had Mongolian in our blood. I asked her just where did she think the land bridge during the last ice age ended in the east, France? I had a friend send her the link to Wolf Totem by the Hu. She didn’t find it amusing.
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Awesome! I'll be seeing them in Milwaukee warming up for 5 Finger Death Punch. Should be a fun time watching the crowd wondering who's grandpa wandered in.
The Wind River is on par with the Blackfeet in Montana and a few others.....Holy hell what chitholes. The gov does them no favors by throwing money at them.
Bad deal....
True story chip hailstone over on Alaska forums extended me an offer to hang out with him for a couple weeks in noorvik. This was a few yrs ago, I told him no way. I had my fill of reservations to last me a lifetime. I view villages in western alaska like reservations but worse.
The Wind River is on par with the Blackfeet in Montana and a few others.....Holy hell what chitholes. The gov does them no favors by throwing money at them.
Bad deal....
So true. Drove through Browning early this summer after hiking in GNP. The country is just beautiful and could be a money maker in so many ways, but the clans on the rez. just can't pull their collective heads out of their butts and get along so people can get ahead. They are their own worst enemies.
There's this parable about the little rez kid putting crawdads in his bucket when a passerby tells the kid he better put a lid on his bucket. The youngster replies.." don't need to, these are native American crawdads, when one tries to climb to the top the others drag him back down to the bottom."....
Only personally been to a couple One SE of OKC with a friend to visit his folks where I was loaded up with big blocks of gubmint cheese and John Cope's dried sweet corn and several bags of sugar, Then another some of us drove through in another state to go fishing, where you could tell which were the residents there that collected a monthly stipend. They lived in rathole houses with the front yard full of old washing machines and decrepit refrigerators and outboard motors and miraculous heaps of beer cans. On the fringes of the designated area were numerous "Tobacco shops " that were thinly veiled head shops full of dope pipes and meth accessories. Ordinarily, I'd have been suspicious of staying in such a place, but nothing ever got stolen because everything they used/consumed was courtesy of the US taxpayer
The Wind River is on par with the Blackfeet in Montana and a few others.....Holy hell what chitholes. The gov does them no favors by throwing money at them.
Bad deal....
Surprising to hear, since Gov’t subsidized communities have been so successful elsewhere 🤔
The Wind River is on par with the Blackfeet in Montana and a few others.....Holy hell what chitholes. The gov does them no favors by throwing money at them.
Bad deal....
Surprising to hear, since Gov’t subsidized communities have been so successful elsewhere 🤔
As can be said for the crow and Cheyenne reservations side by side in southern Montana. Add in the stupidity of putting two pretty much mortal enemies side by side. Over the years many with great possibilities have come from there but it seems a great vacuum sucks them back within minutes. A sad waste of life and beautiful country.
I drove through a big rez in South Dakota one January day. We don't have any big reservations like that down here in Dixie, Good God I never had seen anything like it. Abandoned trailers and cars everywhere, six inches of snow piled up here and there, covered with dirt. A few drunk Indians sprawled out on front porches. A few raggedy children running around. What a depressing place to be.
Twenty years later I drove back through Pine Ridge, prob’ly 2003.
Big changes over the decades, more housing developments, conditions as described. Back in ‘84 one of the locals took me up to Wounded Knee and the chapel on the hilltop next to the mass grave.
Stopped in there again. However you feel about that whole ‘73 deal a guy named Buddy LaMont (?) died there, they buried him up there on that hill.
A woman by that same name was buried next to him. It’s been years but I think that was his mom. Someone had taken a crap right on her grave. I cleaned it off, hey this was someone’s mom.
Off to one side there was this round building, the AIM “Wounded Knee Museum”, a bunch of photos around the walls.
Across the street from the hill the local Elementary School teachers were having a bake sale, we bought some. The lady at the bake sale table told me the AIM guy who ran that museum was the biggest drug dealer on the Rez.
Only Reservation experience was on a Pheasant hunt in south Dakota. A brand new government built house on the rez. The bathroom wall was knocked out so the horse could drink from the bath tub. We turned around and got away from there.
The Wind River is on par with the Blackfeet in Montana and a few others.....Holy hell what chitholes. The gov does them no favors by throwing money at them.
Bad deal....
True story chip hailstone over on Alaska forums extended me an offer to hang out with him for a couple weeks in noorvik. This was a few yrs ago, I told him no way. I had my fill of reservations to last me a lifetime. I view villages in western alaska like reservations but worse.
I would agree with that comparison. I thought I was going to get raped in Bethel one time (and Browning, MT for that matter). Barrow is like a third world country. The smaller AK villages are even worse and more depressed.
On the flip side, the Flathead Res in Montana is nice.
Its a bad deal all over the place and the residents there are the only ones who can change things. If they want to change things, I'll be glad to help.
It might have been Pine Ridge. I just looked it up on the map and I see it is right on the Nebraska border. I remember something about they couldn't buy booze on the rez, but could buy it in Nebraska. The Indians would make the short drive and fill up the car trunk with cases of Nebraska beer.
Google “Pine Ridge Homicides” and you’ll get lots of interesting reading. Left to themselves they will eventually self destruct, but the feds billion $ rat hole prolongs the agony. It’s long past time to end the reservation system and sovereignty and have these folks join the rest of society. No more “nation” inside a nation. One law for one people.
I’ve always said that was the biggest mistake the govt made was putting them on reservations, should have integrated them into society and let them deal with it like the rest of our ancestors.
All it did was make them dependent on the government.
It might have been Pine Ridge. I just looked it up on the map and I see it is right on the Nebraska border. I remember something about they couldn't buy booze on the rez, but could buy it in Nebraska. The Indians would make the short drive and fill up the car trunk with cases of Nebraska beer.
Yeah, it was Pine Ridge. The "town" in Nebraska, six inches from the SD border, is "White Clay." Last time I was there, White Clay was comprised of two liquor stores across the road from one another.
I’ve always said that was the biggest mistake the govt made was putting them on reservations, should have integrated them into society and let them deal with it like the rest of our ancestors.
All it did was make them dependent on the government.
Rez system wasn’t the devil detail, money is. On top of the land give them tools, livestock/seed, base equipment to get started should have happened. Instead of money they should have been given help drilling wells, water management assets, hands on help and fair schooling , tho most has been. If they knew how to deal with the harshness of the land, they would have done a pretty fair job of keeping themselves alive with the basics. Money involved the whites who figured out real fast how to skim, some Indians figured that out just as quick. Most however as a “kept” society degenerated no differently than those in Chicago, Philly, and many other areas. Look at the mass gatherings of “homeless” people now flowering up, they are the new Rez/hood dwellers and are fast becoming every bit as degenerated and a financial burden. Not much different than the hippie communes that sprung up in the 60’s, except the government didn’t start handing the communes money back then and those hippies soon realized they had to get real, get moving, or perish. Reality works every time it’s tried. Something has to give, working people giving money is not the answer.
White Clay is now a dry town. Means the natives just have drive/whatever to get the next town south. Haven't heard much about things since then. Probably didn't slow them down much.
I spent most of my younger years on the warm springs Indian reservation. Put that place in the rear view mirror July 29th 1998.
White boy growing up on a Rez. That sounds like a hoot of fûck’n fun.
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My mom was half injun making me a 1/4 injun but not enough to brown lol. So growing up on the Rez and white was not fun.. But after a few yrs I was accepted as part of the crew… what’s funny about the Rez especially warm springs they are all about their sovereign nation chit until they have a water issue then all of the sudden they want to be part of the state and it’s now a state problem..
I have met and know many Native Americans that have left the reservations here in my part of Montana and have become responsible citizens. The ones who have the will to get away from reservations and stay away are good people and seem to blend in with the rest of us. Of course, all of the reservations I am familiar with are schit-holes that are like all of the ones described in this discussion! I think our govt. made them that way and now don't give a [bleep]!
Only Reservation experience was on a Pheasant hunt in south Dakota. A brand new government built house on the rez. The bathroom wall was knocked out so the horse could drink from the bath tub. We turned around and got away from there.
Only Reservation experience was on a Pheasant hunt in south Dakota. A brand new government built house on the rez. The bathroom wall was knocked out so the horse could drink from the bath tub. We turned around and got away from there.
Only Reservation experience was on a Pheasant hunt in south Dakota. A brand new government built house on the rez. The bathroom wall was knocked out so the horse could drink from the bath tub. We turned around and got away from there.
Now that is what I call "expedient."
L.W.
Holee sheit.
One of our forum members who has a business as a PH in South Africa, framed in windows and doors for the Africans living in their "roundels" (no corners because they harbor evil spirits don't you know). He went back to the states after hunting season and the residents had ripped all the wood off the windows, frames, doors, etc for firewood...even though they have an entire bush full of mopane and other woods to burn. IT appears, the wood in the house was closer and less chopping required.....
The white parts of the Flathead reservation are nice. The tribal parts, not so much. The reservation was opened to white settlement in 1908 and ever since the CSKT has tried to claw it back. And because Indians are "reliable" Dem votes, they have allies in the system that will do anything to keep Indians loyal Democrats. But Indians aren't particularly loyal to anyone or anything but perhaps their clans. A shame, really. There's no reason a white place and an Indian place right next to each other can't be equally prosperous and safe.
Indians have been chit on since ol white eyes landed on this continent. Feds just ramped up the chitting on them after the civil war. They say the confederacy took better care of the Indian than the u.s government. Anywho then late 1890’s the boarding schools started turn that savage into a proper savage. Geronimo died as a prisoner of war etc it goes on and on. Then in the 70’s ol federally decided to tie the tubes of native gals without telling them you know it was for their own good.. tribal governments some of the most corrupt in the world.. family name means more than competence. If you are from a family that low on the totem pole (no pun intended) you will never go anywhere on the Rez..
To read an unvarnished rendition of life on a Montana reservation in the good old days before political correctness, get a copy of Stay Away Joe by Dan Cushman. Owning a copy will get you cancelled.
Indians have been chit on since ol white eyes landed on this continent. Feds just ramped up the chitting on them after the civil war. They say the confederacy took better care of the Indian than the u.s government. Anywho then late 1890’s the boarding schools started turn that savage into a proper savage. Geronimo died as a prisoner of war etc it goes on and on. Then in the 70’s ol federally decided to tie the tubes of native gals without telling them you know it was for their own good.. tribal governments some of the most corrupt in the world.. family name means more than competence. If you are from a family that low on the totem pole (no pun intended) you will never go anywhere on the Rez..
Geronimo did not die as a prisoner of war. For what it's worth Indians have always done a pretty good job of raping, robbing and pillaging each other long before "ol white eyes" landed on these shores. Indians didn't spare white settlers from any of that cruel and savage treatment they imposed on each other either. It could be a brutal frontier for any peoples trying to make a living on it.
Indians have been chit on since ol white eyes landed on this continent. Feds just ramped up the chitting on them after the civil war. They say the confederacy took better care of the Indian than the u.s government. Anywho then late 1890’s the boarding schools started turn that savage into a proper savage. Geronimo died as a prisoner of war etc it goes on and on. Then in the 70’s ol federally decided to tie the tubes of native gals without telling them you know it was for their own good.. tribal governments some of the most corrupt in the world.. family name means more than competence. If you are from a family that low on the totem pole (no pun intended) you will never go anywhere on the Rez..
Geronimo did not die as a prisoner of war. For what it's worth Indians have always done a pretty good job of raping, robbing and pillaging each other long before "ol white eyes" landed on these shores. Indians didn't spare white settlers from any of that cruel and savage treatment they imposed on each other either. It could be a brutal frontier for any peoples trying to make a living on it.
in my community up in Arizona our School District use to be Peach Springs. We had one of our Residence go to enroll his little girl into Elementary School in the Peach Springs District (Res. District) as was required. He sat down with his little girl waiting to see the an administrator. When they were taken in to enroll her the staff told the guy that he should not choose this school for his daughter. He told them that this was the District that he was told he had to send his little girl.
The Staff member told him that she was the wrong color that she was a blond hair white girl and the other kids would Kill Her.
This District when this all happened had over 20 some odd administrators making over $100K each for 11 kids.
The guy had to fight and go to court to get his kid into the Kingman School District which by road was closer than Peach Springs.
We have a lot of Home Schooled kids in our Comunity
Indians have been chit on since ol white eyes landed on this continent. Feds just ramped up the chitting on them after the civil war. They say the confederacy took better care of the Indian than the u.s government. Anywho then late 1890’s the boarding schools started turn that savage into a proper savage. Geronimo died as a prisoner of war etc it goes on and on. Then in the 70’s ol federally decided to tie the tubes of native gals without telling them you know it was for their own good.. tribal governments some of the most corrupt in the world.. family name means more than competence. If you are from a family that low on the totem pole (no pun intended) you will never go anywhere on the Rez..
Geronimo did not die as a prisoner of war. For what it's worth Indians have always done a pretty good job of raping, robbing and pillaging each other long before "ol white eyes" landed on these shores. Indians didn't spare white settlers from any of that cruel and savage treatment they imposed on each other either. It could be a brutal frontier for any peoples trying to make a living on it.
Oh ok so he just chose to stay in Oklahoma? Got it..
I worked in a psych hospital in Boise that had a contract with the state of Alaska to long term treat some of their kids. The stuff those native kids went through was horrific. Lots of abuse and then our leftist psychiatrist would pump them so full of Haldol and other stuff they couldn't do more than sit and drool on themselves. I had a crappy youth but these kids had been through hell..
Our church has done some mission trips to Indian reservations over the years. Lots of strange circumstances on those places.
Back in the day, I wired 3 firestations on 3 different reservations. The state wouldn't them be hooked up without an inspection - and the co-ops weren't going against the state. I wound up getting the Governors of each reservation to "invite" a state inspector on the rez, with the proviso that ONLY the firestation could be inspected. Big pizzin' contest, for a while, there. But, I couldn't get paid - 'til it all worked!
They got a serial killer, what they do about it is another matter. Bet it is someone known in a position of trust of some way.
Hit it right on the head.. could be anyone doing it as well. That reservation doesn’t have a tribal police. Their cops are BIA cops up until recently it sounds like they had 6 BIA cops. Now they seem to be upto 18 bia cops.
I live right next to a Rez and know quite a few Natives. Decent community compared to the rough ones described here. But it has some of the same problems as many others, if you look. Since I don't hang out in rez bars, the Natives I'm around, through work and such, are pretty decent folk. No better or worse than other people.
One thing that strikes me though is Natives don't often have the same goals as whites and never seem to get in a hurry to do things or worry much about the future. Pretty laid back.
Another thing is the in-fighting. You'd think they would have a stick-together mentality, but they don't at all. The bad ones sure seem to pull the ones with some potential back in.
Indians have been chit on since ol white eyes landed on this continent. Feds just ramped up the chitting on them after the civil war. They say the confederacy took better care of the Indian than the u.s government. Anywho then late 1890’s the boarding schools started turn that savage into a proper savage. Geronimo died as a prisoner of war etc it goes on and on. Then in the 70’s ol federally decided to tie the tubes of native gals without telling them you know it was for their own good.. tribal governments some of the most corrupt in the world.. family name means more than competence. If you are from a family that low on the totem pole (no pun intended) you will never go anywhere on the Rez..
California had a law on the books that allowed for indentured servitude of any Indian declared vagrant. Signed into law 1850 IIRC. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that's how my Great Great Grandfather hooked up with my Great Great Grandmother.
As a kid the Round Valley Reservation and Hoopa Reservations were known as pretty rough places for a white to be caught after dark, but with logging going full bore a lot of the males worked in the woods and I don't remember either of them being ghetto like.
I'm a 1/4 Indian and going to a mostly white school we were always known as Indian kids. Never had any problems because of it though.
Our church has done some mission trips to Indian reservations over the years. Lots of strange circumstances on those places.
Back in the day, I wired 3 firestations on 3 different reservations. The state wouldn't them be hooked up without an inspection - and the co-ops weren't going against the state. I wound up getting the Governors of each reservation to "invite" a state inspector on the rez, with the proviso that ONLY the firestation could be inspected. Big pizzin' contest, for a while, there. But, I couldn't get paid - 'til it all worked!
Did they have a restroom? That would mean you wired a head for a reservation (old joke) 🙂
The Blackfoot is a sad state of affairs, could be a damn nice place.
The rez’s I drove through in New Mexico were worse by quite a bit though
The Mescalero Apache Reservation in the Sacramento Mts of SE New Mexico is as pretty as I’ve seen. Ski Apache, Inn of the Mountain Gods resort, St Joseph’s Apache Mission Church, lumber, ranching, guided elk hunts, just up the mountain from Ruidoso.
I haven’t been off pavement so I dunno what it’s like where most people live, but homes seen from the highways look OK.
I do appreciate that the Ruidoso sprawl of condos, vacation homes etc abruptly stops at the rez boundary. Whatever else they may or may not be, them Mescaleros seem big on keeping stuff natural.
The Blackfoot is a sad state of affairs, could be a damn nice place.
The rez’s I drove through in New Mexico were worse by quite a bit though
The Mescalero Apache Reservation in the Sacramento Mts of SE New Mexico is as pretty as I’ve seen. Ski Apache, Inn of the Mountain Gods resort, St Joseph’s Apache Mission Church, lumber, ranching, guided elk hunts, just up the mountain from Ruidoso.
I haven’t been off pavement so I dunno what it’s like where most people live, but homes seen from the highways look OK.
I do appreciate that the Ruidoso sprawl of condos, vacation homes etc abruptly stops at the rez boundary. Whatever else they may or may not be, them Mescaleros seem big on keeping stuff natural.
The Jicarilla Apache Reservation, just west of Chama, NM is not bad. And has some of the best Elk Hunting in the US. I usually stop at their Tribal Gas Station in Dulce, and fill up on my way to Fly Fish the San Juan River, just below Navajo Damn. Nice little Casino and Hotel there too.
In 1936 my dad was a 14 year old kid living in Miller, South Dakota. He told us that every summer, the Indians would come to town. There were about 150 Indians. They had covered wagons drawn by horses, maybe 25 wagons. Wooden wagons with a canvas top, but instead of wooden wheels, they had rubber inflated auto tires. Other than the rubber tires, it looked like something straight out of Bonanza. Dad said that the Indians set up camp in a meadow on the outskirts of town. The Indians would stay for five or six weeks. To the teen age kids of Miller, it was like the circus coming to town.
The Indians set up teepees. My dad would walk out to the camp with several of his buddies, and they were welcomed. Dad said that on day one, the Indians set up a giant 20 gallon cast iron stew pot on a camp fire. Dad said that several "bucks," as he called the young males, would go in to town on the first day. They would go to the butcher shop and buy 15 pounds of cheap "stew meat." And the butcher would give them 20 pounds of scrap fat. Then the bucks went to the general store and bought 30 pounds of potatoes and 10 pounds of carrots. They took their haul back to the camp and made a giant stew. Dad said they kept this stew pot cooking on a wood fire throughout their 6 week stay, and all they ate was this stew. They might catch a few jackrabbits for the stew, and the squaws would scramble out on the prairie and dig up some roots, but once a week the bucks went back to Miller to purchase more meat and potatoes.
Dad said that, in 1936 it was illegal for an Indian to purchase liquor in South Dakota. The Indians would give my father a $5 bill, and he would go in to town and buy 4 or 5 bottles of cheap booze and hand it to the Indians. I don't know if they had age restrictions on whities buying booze, but somehow, they sold it to Dad. Dad was a big kid, age 14 but nearly six feet tall. No way he looked like he was 21 but somehow, they sold him the booze. On day one the Indians had some cash, I guess the Feds were handing out money to the Indians.
I remember distinctly dad telling me that the Indians would sell out their wives for prostitutes. Young men from town would come out at night, and pay an Indian man 2 or 3 dollars, and the South Dakota guy would go inside the teepee and bang the Indian gal. And he said the Indian man would stand outside the teepee, his arms folded, keeping watch.
These were probably Sioux Indians. This was 60 years after the Battle of the Little Bighorn. There is a good chance that some of the 75 or 78 year old Indians there in Miller had participated in the Custer fight.
I spent most of my younger years on the warm springs Indian reservation. Put that place in the rear view mirror July 29th 1998.
White boy growing up on a Rez. That sounds like a hoot of fûck’n fun.
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My mom was half injun making me a 1/4 injun but not enough to brown lol. So growing up on the Rez and white was not fun.. But after a few yrs I was accepted as part of the crew… what’s funny about the Rez especially warm springs they are all about their sovereign nation chit until they have a water issue then all of the sudden they want to be part of the state and it’s now a state problem..
Haha so true. I've worked up there a lot. I've seen outdoor faucets that have been leaking for decades I bet and now cattails are growing next to the house. I guess why fix it when it doesn't cost them anything. Sewer manholes overflowing into creeks also.
To read an unvarnished rendition of life on a Montana reservation in the good old days before political correctness, get a copy of Stay Away Joe by Dan Cushman. Owning a copy will get you cancelled.
Yes, you will recognize many many characters from that book 😂😂
Those that live on the res. say that there are 2 kinds of people there. The reds & the apples. they are all the same except that the apples are red on the outside but white on the inside.
Those that live on the res. say that there are 2 kinds of people there. The reds & the apples. they are all the same except that the apples are red on the outside but white on the inside.
Truth^^^ My experience is....if you work and acquire nice things...you are white. If you don't work and live in poverty, you are an Indian.
This is maybe the biggest obstacle to overcome, as I see it, and has been handed down and is now inter-generational, up here anyways.
It is up to the elders and community leaders to "fix" it...not government.
There was a Indian on a bike forum from Michigan (??) who rode his bike from his home to Nunavut up above Quebec. An incredible journey covering hundreds of mile of isolated dirt roads, no facilities. The guy actually cached freeze-dried food on the way up for his return trip.
Anyhow at one point he was having a conversation with a Cree (??) Cop. That Cop said there were two kinds of Indians up there; daytime Indians who were the regular people, and on the other hand there were the nighttime Indians.
White Clay is now a dry town. Means the natives just have drive/whatever to get the next town south. Haven't heard much about things since then. Probably didn't slow them down much.
Our church has done some mission trips to Indian reservations over the years. Lots of strange circumstances on those places.
Back in the day, I wired 3 firestations on 3 different reservations. The state wouldn't them be hooked up without an inspection - and the co-ops weren't going against the state. I wound up getting the Governors of each reservation to "invite" a state inspector on the rez, with the proviso that ONLY the firestation could be inspected. Big pizzin' contest, for a while, there. But, I couldn't get paid - 'til it all worked!
Did they have a restroom? That would mean you wired a head for a reservation (old joke) 🙂
I spent most of my younger years on the warm springs Indian reservation. Put that place in the rear view mirror July 29th 1998.
White boy growing up on a Rez. That sounds like a hoot of fûck’n fun.
🦫
My mom was half injun making me a 1/4 injun but not enough to brown lol. So growing up on the Rez and white was not fun.. But after a few yrs I was accepted as part of the crew… what’s funny about the Rez especially warm springs they are all about their sovereign nation chit until they have a water issue then all of the sudden they want to be part of the state and it’s now a state problem..
Haha so true. I've worked up there a lot. I've seen outdoor faucets that have been leaking for decades I bet and now cattails are growing next to the house. I guess why fix it when it doesn't cost them anything. Sewer manholes overflowing into creeks also.
Ya, see it all the time water, sewer issues, meth houses boarded up. The houses that are rehabed then boarded up for the next family are tore up faster than they get occupied. They have every opportunity to improve what they have, housing , education, lifestyle and pretty much not cost them a dime. Not many of them take advantage of the opportunities they have.
White Clay is now a dry town. Means the natives just have drive/whatever to get the next town south. Haven't heard much about things since then. Probably didn't slow them down much.
Twice as many miles - DWI.
They don’t leave the res anymore, legalized it in 2015.
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. – Native Americans on South Dakota's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation have voted to end prohibition and legalize alcohol so the tribe can use the profits for education and treatment.
I have met several on the Blackfoot res that were just like any other farmer. Our company was selling and installing irrig. systems and grain storage bins.
The tribe paid them to break op sod and they then leased it. They were good farmers. Had good equipment and raised good crops.
ONE WAS A trap shooter who went south for the winter in his big motor home like all the other snow birds.
I drove through a big rez in South Dakota one January day. We don't have any big reservations like that down here in Dixie, Good God I never had seen anything like it. Abandoned trailers and cars everywhere, six inches of snow piled up here and there, covered with dirt. A few drunk Indians sprawled out on front porches. A few raggedy children running around. What a depressing place to be.
I have spent a lot of time in black housing projects in Georgia on ambulance calls, but a Georgia housing project looks like Disneyland compared to the South Dakota rez.
Reservations are a sad place to visit. Most of the tribal leaders should not see the light of day again for the corruption they are involved in.
You see a lot of similar living conditions with white people, especially in the south, when off the major beaten paths. It seems like you get about half way through MO and you start to notice real change. Many people just don't give a schidt about what their houses and yards look like. Appliances, toilets, junk cars etc., strewn about the yard. Houses that needed paint and shingles 30 years ago, plastic over windows, dirty little white kids running around with sagging diapers...
Those that live on the res. say that there are 2 kinds of people there. The reds & the apples. they are all the same except that the apples are red on the outside but white on the inside.
Truth^^^ My experience is....if you work and acquire nice things...you are white. If you don't work and live in poverty, you are an Indian.
This is maybe the biggest obstacle to overcome, as I see it, and has been handed down and is now inter-generational, up here anyways.
It is up to the elders and community leaders to "fix" it...not government.
I have a Brother from the same Mother and Father He is as White as you get the same as I am
He has been doing Indian Dance since he was around 17 or 18 he is now in his mid to late 60s. He has been adopted into to Indian Family's that live on one of the Reservations in Montana.
He has pretty much disowned our Family at least that is what he tells us but when I call him he is like any other Brother and we have good conversations as long as we do not bring up Politics.
He takes trips to the Res. every chance he gets and he would move out there at the drop of a hat if his wife would move there.
He is deep in their religion and I do not have a problem with that at all. My other family members do. That is their problem.
Montana from what I have been told is a Very Beautiful State.
He still posts on Facebook how GREAT his hero Obummer is and was for this Country.
When I was staying with him to help with my dads last days. That was when the young boy in DC was approached by the Indians on the Curb waiting to be picked up and the Indian started pounding his drum and singing to the kid that just stood there.
Well I watched the Youtube video 3 or 4 times and my Brother in the other room said that he seen the kid hit the Indian and Spit in the Indians face.
I told him that we must of been watching different videos because that is not what I seen.
He started screaming at me and yelled and I quote.
WHY DO ALL OF YOU Fing WHITE BOYS MOVE BACK TO EUROPE WHERE YOU CAME FROM AND LEAVE MY PEOPLE ALONE,
I just stood there just like that kid did and let him scream at me.
I was thinking to my self that we came from the same parents and he is a White as I am.
There is Truly something that has went Hay Wire in the Heads of some people in this world and the Dumbcrats tend to show that a lot more that the Conservatives.
I have been around a few Indians in my life and went to Pow Wows I have even Sweat doing their religious prayer.
And just about every Indian I have met Votes Dumbocrat. The Same People that are keeping them repressed and stuck in the Reservation System.
The saying Do the same thing over and over expecting a different out come comes to mind.
Some of them are truly Insane just like my Brother at times
I had a couple work trips to AZ / NM under my belt when I was invited to the Rez to ride horses. Being careful what I do when working out of state, I ran it past a local white guy on the crew. His response was: "not just no, [bleep] NO!" Since then I've seen some of it and heard stories so I'm glad I asked.
NATIONAL & WORLD NEWS By STEPHEN GROVES, Associated Press Updated 2 hours ago Two American Indian tribes in South Dakota have agreed to purchase 40 acres of land near the Wounded Knee National Historic Landmark on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — Two American Indian tribes in South Dakota have joined forces to purchase 40 acres around the Wounded Knee National Historic Landmark, the site of one of the deadliest massacres in U.S. history.
The Oglala Sioux and the Cheyenne River Sioux said the purchase of the land on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation was an act of cooperation to ensure the area was preserved as a sacred site. More than 200 Native Americans — including children and elderly people — were killed at Wounded Knee in 1890. The bloodshed marked a seminal moment in the frontier battles the U.S. Army waged against tribes.
“It's a small step towards healing and really making sure that we as a tribe are protecting our critical areas and assets,” Oglala Sioux Tribe President Kevin Killer told The Associated Press.
The tribes agreed this week to petition the U.S. Department of the Interior to take the land into trust on behalf of both tribes. The Oglala Sioux tribe will pay $255,000 and the Cheyenne River Sioux tribe will pay $245,000 for the site, Indian Country Today reported. The title to the land will be held in the name of the Oglala Sioux tribe.
NATIONAL & WORLD NEWS By STEPHEN GROVES, Associated Press Updated 2 hours ago Two American Indian tribes in South Dakota have agreed to purchase 40 acres of land near the Wounded Knee National Historic Landmark on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — Two American Indian tribes in South Dakota have joined forces to purchase 40 acres around the Wounded Knee National Historic Landmark, the site of one of the deadliest massacres in U.S. history.
The Oglala Sioux and the Cheyenne River Sioux said the purchase of the land on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation was an act of cooperation to ensure the area was preserved as a sacred site. More than 200 Native Americans — including children and elderly people — were killed at Wounded Knee in 1890. The bloodshed marked a seminal moment in the frontier battles the U.S. Army waged against tribes.
“It's a small step towards healing and really making sure that we as a tribe are protecting our critical areas and assets,” Oglala Sioux Tribe President Kevin Killer told The Associated Press.
The tribes agreed this week to petition the U.S. Department of the Interior to take the land into trust on behalf of both tribes. The Oglala Sioux tribe will pay $255,000 and the Cheyenne River Sioux tribe will pay $245,000 for the site, Indian Country Today reported. The title to the land will be held in the name of the Oglala Sioux tribe.
Oh they will be fighting over that land soon enough and will ask the Uncle Sugar to intervene..
God damn this makes me wanna stop in jitterbugs on the Rocky boy again!!! 😂😂
I bicycled right on by that place in ‘19, I didn’t realize it’s significance at the time.
I have heard it is a place of food, drink, live music and many stories, and unlike Luckenbach TX it ain’t about to be inundated with tourists and gay weddings any time soon.
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