Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power. But the job situation and pay are one hell of a lot better today than when trump left office. And with the minimum wage increases and better paying jobs. Wage growth has grown 10% or better from 2016 to present. As far as market trends its always up and down. trumps tariffs didn't help that at all either.
Not hardly? pretty sure I know my own ingress and egress better than you.
Yeah, I'm making about 20% more than in 2016, but I got those raises under Trump.
Have you checked natural gas rates lately, just last year they were around 60 cents a therm, over 1 dollar now. Bought to get even tighter on some folks.
Mortgage: has been fixed for the last 22 years. Auto: have put off buying another one. Credit Cards: none Utilities: Everything is LED and run A/C conservable. Water: There's a DROUGHT, again conserve... Grocery's: I don't feed the dogs Rib-Eye steaks 7 days a week anymore. Couple maybe. Investments: Play stupidly, loose stupidly.
No, I haven't had any real increase cost or lost anything. I just choose what to purchase and when.
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power. But the job situation and pay are one hell of a lot better today than when trump left office. And with the minimum wage increases and better paying jobs. Wage growth has grown 10% or better from 2016 to present. As far as market trends its always up and down. trumps tariffs didn't help that at all either.
Mortgage: has been fixed for the last 22 years. Auto: have put off buying another one. Credit Cards: none Utilities: Everything is LED and run A/C conservable. Water: There's a DROUGHT, again conserve... Grocery's: I don't feed the dogs Rib-Eye steaks 7 days a week anymore. Couple maybe. Investments: Play stupidly, loose stupidly.
No, I haven't had any real increase cost or lost anything. I just choose what to purchase and when.
Phil
so the stock market has gone up and groceries, energy is cheaper now? And violent crime and people living on the streets in California is decreasing?
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power. But the job situation and pay are one hell of a lot better today than when trump left office. And with the minimum wage increases and better paying jobs. Wage growth has grown 10% or better from 2016 to present. As far as market trends its always up and down. trumps tariffs didn't help that at all either.
Phil
So, you're a fan of basically a 13% loss in buying power over the past 6 years..........using your figures.
$0.23 = 23% inflation
vs a 10% rise in wages
the math I learned years ago seems to lead me to believe there's a bit of a shortfall somewhere.
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power. But the job situation and pay are one hell of a lot better today than when trump left office. And with the minimum wage increases and better paying jobs. Wage growth has grown 10% or better from 2016 to present. As far as market trends its always up and down. trumps tariffs didn't help that at all either.
Phil
So, you're a fan of basically a 13% loss in buying power over the past 6 years..........using your figures.
$0.23 = 23% inflation
vs a 10% rise in wages
the math I learned years ago seems to lead me to believe there's a bit of a shortfall somewhere.
He's using Biden math..... "ZERO, let me repeat that figure: ZERO inflation"
Mortgage: has been fixed for the last 22 years. Auto: have put off buying another one. Credit Cards: none Utilities: Everything is LED and run A/C conservable. Water: There's a DROUGHT, again conserve... Grocery's: I don't feed the dogs Rib-Eye steaks 7 days a week anymore. Couple maybe. Investments: Play stupidly, loose stupidly.
No, I haven't had any real increase cost or lost anything. I just choose what to purchase and when.
Mortgage: has been fixed for the last 22 years. Auto: have put off buying another one. Credit Cards: none Utilities: Everything is LED and run A/C conservable. Water: There's a DROUGHT, again conserve... Grocery's: I don't feed the dogs Rib-Eye steaks 7 days a week anymore. Couple maybe. Investments: Play stupidly, loose stupidly.
No, I haven't had any real increase cost or lost anything. I just choose what to purchase and when.
Phil
Sounds like a typical selfish liberal to me. Only thinking about yourself.
Mortgage: has been fixed for the last 22 years. Auto: have put off buying another one. Credit Cards: none Utilities: Everything is LED and run A/C conservable. Water: There's a DROUGHT, again conserve... Grocery's: I don't feed the dogs Rib-Eye steaks 7 days a week anymore. Couple maybe. Investments: Play stupidly, loose stupidly.
No, I haven't had any real increase cost or lost anything. I just choose what to purchase and when.
Phil
A song for folks like this ^^^ who are doing OK when the world gets crappy:
Yeah, how much loss today. Looks like it's going to be down about 560 points. ... From what I can see.. There's a lot being lost with the current administration. We know that, wtf is wrong with the dems? Those fuggers are idiots.. The true threat to democracy..
Mortgage: has been fixed for the last 22 years. Auto: have put off buying another one. Credit Cards: none Utilities: Everything is LED and run A/C conservable. Water: There's a DROUGHT, again conserve... Grocery's: I don't feed the dogs Rib-Eye steaks 7 days a week anymore. Couple maybe. Investments: Play stupidly, loose stupidly.
No, I haven't had any real increase cost or lost anything. I just choose what to purchase and when.
Phil
So there’s no inflation because you don’t buy anything. That’s a brilliant supposition.
23% inflation, since the beginning of the so-called trump administration (that's over 6 years). Who's the IDIOT?
You all are incapable of reading and comprehension...
But you should understand the principle of short term, and not purchasing high if not absolutely necessary.
As far as the minimum wage, that was nearly doubled in some circumstances. And the overall wage increases and the increased job market.
No, people haven't lost anything, unless they wanted too.
Phil
Minimum wage increasing does nothing for me but make prices of everything go up. Minimum wage jobs are for highschool kids to get weed money, theyre not supposed to be liveable wages. And my wage increases have not kept up with the cost of living.
I used to be pretty much a non political party guy. That totally ended with the Obummer as president. No respect for any dem now because even when it’s costing us a nation they won’t admit they were wrong.fug them all. Let the games begin. Edk
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power. But the job situation and pay are one hell of a lot better today than when trump left office. And with the minimum wage increases and better paying jobs. Wage growth has grown 10% or better from 2016 to present. As far as market trends its always up and down. trumps tariffs didn't help that at all either.
Phil
IDK what world you live in but EVERYTHING is up at least 20 percent. If you think life is better under Biden then you are a moron; which isn't surprising because I already know you are.
Inflation: The only way to reduce the national debt.
Much truth there.
The problem being that the G 7 Nations can’t all do it at the same time.
With present inflation numbers the best guess for SS COLA increases are for 8.7% starting next year. Down considerably from previous projections. Ergo, Uncle Sam has got to reduce inflation before the November SS COLA is to be determined.
Looking like new SS recipients might well be hit with a Medicare surcharge of sorts if Barrons and the WSJ are correct.
Inflation: The only way to reduce the national debt.
Much truth there.
The problem being that the G 7 Nations can’t all do it at the same time.
With present inflation numbers the best guess for SS COLA increases are for 8.7% starting next year. Down considerably from previous projections. Ergo, Uncle Sam has got to reduce inflation before the November SS COLA is to be determined.
Looking like new SS recipients might well be hit with a Medicare surcharge of sorts if Barrons and the WSJ are correct.
Houston2: You can thank the likes of "turdquinn" for those financial losses. Never forget who the enemy is and was. Come on 2,024. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Houston2: You can thank the likes of "turdquinn" for those financial losses. Never forget who the enemy is and was. Come on 2,024. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Inflation: The only way to reduce the national debt.
Much truth there.
The problem being that the G 7 Nations can’t all do it at the same time.
With present inflation numbers the best guess for SS COLA increases are for 8.7% starting next year. Down considerably from previous projections. Ergo, Uncle Sam has got to reduce inflation before the November SS COLA is to be determined.
Looking like new SS recipients might well be hit with a Medicare surcharge of sorts if Barrons and the WSJ are correct.
Happy days, boys.
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Inflation: The only way to reduce the national debt.
Much truth there.
The problem being that the G 7 Nations can’t all do it at the same time.
With present inflation numbers the best guess for SS COLA increases are for 8.7% starting next year. Down considerably from previous projections. Ergo, Uncle Sam has got to reduce inflation before the November SS COLA is to be determined.
Looking like new SS recipients might well be hit with a Medicare surcharge of sorts if Barrons and the WSJ are correct.
Happy days, boys.
Totally false. The only way to stop inflation is to stall the e Lonny by raising interest rates. Interest on national debt triples over next 10 years. Our debt will only grow at a faster pace while the banking cartel that owns the Federdd as l reserve get richer in complete secrecy.
This is what happens when a dumb ass hires government types to handle the nation's economic business. Why on earth would anyone expect the economy to perform well when the median years of business experience among cabinet, regulatory officials and advisers is zero?
Houston2: You can thank the likes of "turdquinn" for those financial losses. Never forget who the enemy is and was. Come on 2,024. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power.
Phil
$1000 got a person 555 gallons of heating oil in the northeast under Trump. Under Biden that same $1000 gets a person 200 gallons. I guess a retard in their mind could some how equate that to more purchasing power.
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power.
Phil
$1000 got a person 555 gallons of heating oil in the northeast under Trump. Under Biden that same $1000 gets a person 200 gallons. I guess a retard in their mind could some how equate that to more purchasing power.
Heating oil is a fossil fuel and is BAD, BAD, BAD!
You should heat your house with AAA or AA batteries.
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power. But the job situation and pay are one hell of a lot better today than when trump left office. And with the minimum wage increases and better paying jobs. Wage growth has grown 10% or better from 2016 to present. As far as market trends its always up and down. trumps tariffs didn't help that at all either.
Phil
Jeebus! Inflation lowers the value of your money. A dollar that you had when Trump was president is worth 77 cents now. Or an item that cost a dollar when Trump was president will cost you $1.23 now. And that gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel will cost you almost twice as much.
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power. But the job situation and pay are one hell of a lot better today than when trump left office. And with the minimum wage increases and better paying jobs. Wage growth has grown 10% or better from 2016 to present. As far as market trends its always up and down. trumps tariffs didn't help that at all either.
Phil
Jeebus! Inflation lowers the value of your money. A dollar that you had when Trump was president is worth 77 cents now. Or an item that cost a dollar when Trump was president will cost you $1.23 now. And that gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel will cost you almost twice as much.
Not hardly, you all need to read other than fox and the far-right propaganda sheets. Inflation from Jan 2016 to present is $0.23 on the dollar. Or in other words $1 in 2016 when trump took office is worth $1.23 today in purchasing power. But the job situation and pay are one hell of a lot better today than when trump left office. And with the minimum wage increases and better paying jobs. Wage growth has grown 10% or better from 2016 to present. As far as market trends its always up and down. trumps tariffs didn't help that at all either.
Phil
NOW we know just how backward democrats think. .23 % less buying power, means your better off. Hows that work on fuel, at double the price.
All of you are a bunch of dumb-____, there as only been one 4-year period where the dollar had more buying power in the future, and that was during the depression ('29 to '33) and most all periods have been more of a decline in purchasing power than what we've had lately. 23% less in 6 years... OH, and 23% is stated as 23% not .23 %. And it's still a dollar, not 77 cents. Gas hasn't doubled and $1,000 hasn't bought 555 gallons of fuel oil in one hell of a long time, not unless subsidized. The original question was about the average person having lost, such and such. No, only the fool has lost anything. A person has to adjust, or not!
All of you are a bunch of dumb-____, there as only been one 4-year period where the dollar had more buying power in the future, and that was during the depression ('29 to '33) and most all periods have been more of a decline in purchasing power than what we've had lately. 23% less in 6 years... OH, and 23% is stated as 23% not .23 %. And it's still a dollar, not 77 cents. Gas hasn't doubled and $1,000 hasn't bought 555 gallons of fuel oil in one hell of a long time, not unless subsidized. The original question was about the average person having lost, such and such. No, only the fool has lost anything. A person has to adjust, or not!
All of you are a bunch of dumb-____, there as only been one 4-year period where the dollar had more buying power in the future, and that was during the depression ('29 to '33) and most all periods have been more of a decline in purchasing power than what we've had lately. 23% less in 6 years... OH, and 23% is stated as 23% not .23 %. And it's still a dollar, not 77 cents. Gas hasn't doubled and $1,000 hasn't bought 555 gallons of fuel oil in one hell of a long time, not unless subsidized. The original question was about the average person having lost, such and such. No, only the fool has lost anything. A person has to adjust, or not!
Phil
Phil you must be the dumbest suck was Democrat in history
All of you are a bunch of dumb-____, there as only been one 4-year period where the dollar had more buying power in the future, and that was during the depression ('29 to '33) and most all periods have been more of a decline in purchasing power than what we've had lately. 23% less in 6 years... OH, and 23% is stated as 23% not .23 %. And it's still a dollar, not 77 cents. Gas hasn't doubled and $1,000 hasn't bought 555 gallons of fuel oil in one hell of a long time, not unless subsidized. The original question was about the average person having lost, such and such. No, only the fool has lost anything. A person has to adjust, or not!
Phil
Phil you must be the dumbest suck was Democrat in history
All of you are a bunch of dumb-____, there as only been one 4-year period where the dollar had more buying power in the future, and that was during the depression ('29 to '33) and most all periods have been more of a decline in purchasing power than what we've had lately. 23% less in 6 years... OH, and 23% is stated as 23% not .23 %. And it's still a dollar, not 77 cents. Gas hasn't doubled and $1,000 hasn't bought 555 gallons of fuel oil in one hell of a long time, not unless subsidized. The original question was about the average person having lost, such and such. No, only the fool has lost anything. A person has to adjust, or not!
Phil
Phil you must be the dumbest suck was Democrat in history
Yur spellin and xpressun be bad.
The lyingest piece of shìt ever comes to Phil's defense.
All of you are a bunch of dumb-____, there as only been one 4-year period where the dollar had more buying power in the future, and that was during the depression ('29 to '33) and most all periods have been more of a decline in purchasing power than what we've had lately. 23% less in 6 years... OH, and 23% is stated as 23% not .23 %. And it's still a dollar, not 77 cents. Gas hasn't doubled and $1,000 hasn't bought 555 gallons of fuel oil in one hell of a long time, not unless subsidized. The original question was about the average person having lost, such and such. No, only the fool has lost anything. A person has to adjust, or not!
Phil
Phil you must be the dumbest suck was Democrat in history
All of you are a bunch of dumb-____, there as only been one 4-year period where the dollar had more buying power in the future, and that was during the depression ('29 to '33) and most all periods have been more of a decline in purchasing power than what we've had lately. 23% less in 6 years... OH, and 23% is stated as 23% not .23 %. And it's still a dollar, not 77 cents. Gas hasn't doubled and $1,000 hasn't bought 555 gallons of fuel oil in one hell of a long time, not unless subsidized. The original question was about the average person having lost, such and such. No, only the fool has lost anything. A person has to adjust, or not!
So, Greyghost. in your mind, Joe & Kamala are doing a good job (we’ll, their handlers) of running this Country? Crime, unchecked immigration, inflation, the manipulated reduction of gas prices before a midterm election, are all good things? I have to move to CA, maybe it’s the water (or lack thereof), or the Sun that melts peoples brains.
I went 7 years without a raise under Obama. The Trump years where very good to me. I was able to save several thousand a month last year. This year its hard to save anything. Our home insurance has doubled on both homes. Our property tax is way up. Gas is 2.5 times higher, groceries are up at least 30% in my opinion. Vehicles cost way more, I think they're up at least 30%.
I strongly believe if they included stuff we actually buy real inflation is over 30% and still going. I feel like it's costing me an extra $20,000 a year with everything for my family.
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