Late sept oct 03 while I was back for surgery from Iraq. 3 of us went to LA to bury a soldier . SSG H went to dover afb to escort his body to LA and link up with us.
I met the guy who is the voice of squidward on sponge Bob square pants thru the casualty affairs officer we had to coordinate with.
Met the world famous( I geuss) Santa Monica pier physdelic colored wig clown guy. Dude was out their in orbit around the Keiper belt in his mind...
Had a run in waiting in line behind a blonde with a nice dress at a ATM while "she" was getting some cash in downtown high rise LA " she" turned around to leave...
5 o clock shadow and a Adams apple from hades
Dumb founded on that one just standing their for a couple of seconds. SSg H and Cpt S laughing their azz off at me seeing that all go down and my reaction to it from the van across the street.
Had some moments of greatness in LA.. đđđđđđ
The ones I know are good ol hard working country folk âwhich is a rarity I knowâ and they are great people. They hunt hard, fish hard and are truly hardcore outdoorsmen and women. Iâve worked out there with some really good folks. But they get squashed out by the ones that ainât too good.
Are you kidding? You can't go anywhere here without tripping over them at every turn. Most common conversation starter in line at the grocery store is, "what part of California are you from?" It's like a freaking giant Californicator reunion.
I have quite a few relatives in California. They are all from Montana homesteading families that moved on to California for mostly the climate and opportunity! Most of them now are from farming roots----grapes, almonds, etc. They are good people.
I don't know any of the ones that have moved here by the 100's since the 70's etc but if I have met any they didn't stand out!
I assume there is something different about them? Is there?
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The ones I know are good ol hard working country folk âwhich is a rarity I knowâ and they are great people. They hunt hard, fish hard and are truly hardcore outdoorsmen and women. Iâve worked out there with some really good folks. But they get squashed out by the ones that ainât too good.
Wher are you guys hanging out that you never meet someone from California? I meet one just about every day. Most are good people while a few are fuggwits just like everywhere else. The ones I run into are usually at work and people with decent jobs usually arenât the problem in this country, itâs the 30 year old bartender chic that thinks somebody should be paying her and her illegitimate kids way through life.
Not everybody from California can just up and move out because the state is so screwed up. Many have ties and obligations that keep them there.
Yes , just a few weeks ago .. and they are escaping California bought a small place close to us. I've got the land rented. She grew up in Missouri. He grew up in Northern California and absolutely despises the place. We'll see what the future holds
Hate and distrust of "outsiders" is a human trait that goes back to biblical times.
I've known some people from California. One, years ago, was the quintessential California surfer-girl and one of the first girls I thought I was in love with. Several Navy buddies from California and they were regular guys. Currently an old Navy friend and an old girlfriend in San Diego and they are good people too.
Believe it or not, there are homegrown azz wholes everywhere and there are immigrants from every state who make where they move to a better place.
Unfortunately for many, it's the idiots that tend go get and hold our attention. Also, many people just need to have someone to look down on or complain about.
" Not everybody from California can just up and move out because the state is so screwed up. Many have ties and obligations that keep them there." Yep, this is my situation.
Love how we bitch about Mexicans that donât stay where theyâre at and try to fix their home, then bitch that Californians donât leave and move somewhere âbetterâ.
A lot of time the politics dont really directly effect the people that live in certain areas. I donât think a lot of California pays stupid laws much mind.
Never been, but thereâs a lot more natural beauty than there is urban pockets of scheit.
Washington and Oregon same thing. Get out of the cities into the real part of the states.
I meet several every time I go to town. They move in around here and commence to tell me how great it was in CA and then want to change what is here to what they left in CA. Our POS governor is one of them.
I have some first cousins out there. One owns an auto dealership in Orange that my uncle started in the â50s and the other is a pretty well known architect. We donât see them very often nowadays. Several decades ago we found out that one of the wives likes to talk to her plants. đź Nice lady but about a quarter sin wave âoffâ.
Over the years in the Navy, Iâve been exposed to lots of guys and a few females from California. For the most part I think theyâre a little more conservative that all the fruits and nuts that make the news. đ
I lived in Kali for 9 years when I was stationed at McClellan AFB in the 1970's. Kali was a wonderful place then. After I retired we moved to Susanville for three years, the wife's parents were there and I wanted to attend the gunsmith school at Lassen College. By 1982 it was getting really crazy there and we moved to Wyoming, been here since . I wont even go back into Kali at all now, not even to drive through.
" Not everybody from California can just up and move out because the state is so screwed up. Many have ties and obligations that keep them there." Yep, this is my situation.
No offense, but that is why there are still people in England. I feel your pain though, living in a place that is growing faster than I can.
Love how we bitch about Mexicans that donât stay where theyâre at and try to fix their home, then bitch that Californians donât leave and move somewhere âbetterâ.
A lot of time the politics dont really directly effect the people that live in certain areas. I donât think a lot of California pays stupid laws much mind.
Never been, but thereâs a lot more natural beauty than there is urban pockets of scheit.
Washington and Oregon same thing. Get out of the cities into the real part of the states.
Pretty reasonable assessment jack..
The clown show on the fire is always good tho.
âCanât believe anybody would live in that sheithole stateâ
âThey need to stay in their sheithole state and not move here!â
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The reputation they have has been well earned.
I've met a few... You sir are a fuqking A hole. GFY and stick you lousy ammo where you'll never forget it. Hope this exceeds your expectations you fuqking mouth breathing inbreed
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The reputation they have has been well earned.
I've met a few... You sir are a fuqking A hole. GFY and stick you lousy ammo where you'll never forget it. Hope this exceeds your expectations you fuqking mouth breathing inbreed
Sounds like bitter words from another elk poacher. Sagebrush is a good guy and you sir must be describing yourself.
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The reputation they have has been well earned.
I've met a few... You sir are a fuqking A hole. GFY and stick you lousy ammo where you'll never forget it. Hope this exceeds your expectations you fuqking mouth breathing inbreed
I meet them every day Some good just trying to survive and support their family's Some Bad pieces of crap that I try and get away from as soon as I meet them. I am not a Native Born Commyfornian but I have lived here longer that I have lived away from here. I have 1 leg in Arizona and hopefully soon I will make the move 100%
This State gets its hooks into you and it is very hard to get loose from those hooks.
I have a Friend that is pushing his boss to hire me for $75 an hour with 12 hour days free lodging and food subsistence. The drive would be about 2 hours from my place in Arizona and 5 hour from where I am now.
It does not take much thinking to make that move to go back to being an employee for that kind of money and hours and walk away from being self employed working 1 to 2 days a week for $60 an hour
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The reputation they have has been well earned.
Some folks just don't know, when they don't know enough about the person they decide they ought to challenge.
I am glad you came out of the confrontation with no legal encumbrances.
I recognize your situation as my folks dealt with the same issues with trespassers on a weekly basis '68-'75 during pheasant season. Only our problems were all caused by folks driving rigs with ID 1A plates.
Used to run out there. Met a few.đ Ässholes, great folks, ones I was indifferent about. About like Texas, Tennessee, Massachusetts, Iowa......
They are rare here. We get Northern Virginians, DC'ers and Baltimorons.
A lot through Officers Christian Fellowship. Mostly good enough folks, but they aren't like us and they price us out of owning property, I resent them. Even while likeing some of them.
Iâve only met one that I can recall. He lived a few doors down from me in the same dorm my freshman year of college. So 1996. He was from somewhere near Bakersfield if I remember right. He was a smart, funny, easy going dude.
He studied hard during the week and liked to smoke weed and get drunk on the weekends. Basically the same as the rest of us. Just a pretty mainstream American kid. Politics werenât a big talking point among us but he wasnât a leftist.
My wife has a cousin that lives in California, they came over for the holidays last year . First thing he said walking up the driveway was wow you have am American flag you dont see that in California. Of course in a smart ass tone
I was stationed in CA with the USN for 2 years. Absolutely hated that place. Left it in 1995 on orders and swore I would never set foot in it again. It is now 2022 and so far I have been able to keep that oath.
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The reputation they have has been well earned.
I've met a few... You sir are a fuqking A hole. GFY and stick you lousy ammo where you'll never forget it. Hope this exceeds your expectations you fuqking mouth breathing inbreed
Tell me youâre a douchebag POS without telling me youâre a douchebag POS. Lololol.
Love how we bitch about Mexicans that donât stay where theyâre at and try to fix their home, then bitch that Californians donât leave and move somewhere âbetterâ.
A lot of time the politics dont really directly effect the people that live in certain areas. I donât think a lot of California pays stupid laws much mind.
Never been, but thereâs a lot more natural beauty than there is urban pockets of scheit.
Washington and Oregon same thing. Get out of the cities into the real part of the states.
Uhhh failed analogy dude.
Few bitch that Caliotos donât move somewhere better. As a matter of fact, the line you drew twixt the Mexicans and Californians holds the same. UnfĂ»ck your own home instead of shĂźtting in mine.
I met Hotrod Lincoln at one of the annual shoots that he used to put on. That was back before he turned into a complete asshat like he is now. He's a Tennessee transplant from California.
California, geography, is an awesome place. I, personally, give credit to (some) people who stand up and leave. It's also a rich place. Many people cash in and endeavour to convert Fig Leaf, Arkansas into Malibu. That's evolution, I suppose, but evolution, like technology, is moving faster than ever and conflict moves with it.
Nothing wrong with Cayucos and a lot right. It's kind of like going back in time about 50 years or a little more and the light tackle surf fishing can be pretty good some years.
I met Hotrod Lincoln at one of the annual shoots that he used to put on. That was back before he turned into a complete asshat like he is now. He's a Tennessee transplant from California.
It's always nice when the ass holes go somewhere else.
One of my most memorable nights ever is from a lesbian bar in San Francisco. We'll...not that memorable actually, but I do have a picture somewhere of me wearing a Viking helmet.
Hate and distrust of "outsiders" is a human trait that goes back to biblical times.
I've known some people from California. One, years ago, was the quintessential California surfer-girl and one of the first girls I thought I was in love with. Several Navy buddies from California and they were regular guys. Currently an old Navy friend and an old girlfriend in San Diego and they are good people too.
Believe it or not, there are homegrown azz wholes everywhere and there are immigrants from every state who make where they move to a better place.
Unfortunately for many, it's the idiots that tend go get and hold our attention. Also, many people just need to have someone to look down on or complain about.
In our case, it's not the typical outsider hate. The people flooding in from California are arriving with buckets of money and driving the cost of everything up. For quite a while, a local family shopping for a house had no chance because these people were buying properties over the phone sight unseen for more than the asking price. Then they bitch and moan because the field nextdoor has horses kicking up dust or some forest road isn't paved. And they all buy a truck or SUV upon arrival, soon to be followed by a Razor that they think they should be able to ride anywhere they want as fast as they want. I could go on, but the list would be too long.
I lied. I actually have known a few Californians. But you know, we are all treehugging, gay liberals that move to places and try to turn it into California out here right...đ€Ł
Hate and distrust of "outsiders" is a human trait that goes back to biblical times.
I've known some people from California. One, years ago, was the quintessential California surfer-girl and one of the first girls I thought I was in love with. Several Navy buddies from California and they were regular guys. Currently an old Navy friend and an old girlfriend in San Diego and they are good people too.
Believe it or not, there are homegrown azz wholes everywhere and there are immigrants from every state who make where they move to a better place.
Unfortunately for many, it's the idiots that tend go get and hold our attention. Also, many people just need to have someone to look down on or complain about.
In our case, it's not the typical outsider hate. The people flooding in from California are arriving with buckets of money and driving the cost of everything up. For quite a while, a local family shopping for a house had no chance because these people were buying properties over the phone sight unseen for more than the asking price. Then they bitch and moan because the field nextdoor has horses kicking up dust or some forest road isn't paved. And they all buy a truck or SUV upon arrival, soon to be followed by a Razor that they think they should be able to ride anywhere they want as fast as they want. I could go on, but the list would be too long.
And your fellow residents/neighbors are more than happy to empty the buckets, aren't they ?
I lied. I actually have known a few Californians. But you know, we are all treehugging, gay liberals that move to places and try to turn it into California out here right...đ€Ł
Idiots live everywhere . Thatâs one of my favorite gripes though. Someone buys 5 acres or less then complains nonstop about whatâs going on beside or behind them.
Met a whole buncha Californians in Montana after spending a few summers up there.
Buncha great folks I call friends are from here.
I still find it funny everybody wants us to run away from the best piece of ground in the USA, rather than flood the State with conservatives and help change this place from blue to red.
Met a whole buncha Californians in Montana after spending a few summers up there.
Buncha great folks I call friends are from here.
I still find it funny everybody wants us to run away from the best piece of ground in the USA, rather than flood the State with conservatives and help change this place from blue to red.
I'd love to, but I can buy 5000 acres in Texas for what a beach front condo in Cali costs. And not have to concede that it's okay for someone to rape my grandkids.
Met a whole buncha Californians in Montana after spending a few summers up there.
Buncha great folks I call friends are from here.
I still find it funny everybody wants us to run away from the best piece of ground in the USA, rather than flood the State with conservatives and help change this place from blue to red.
I'd love to, but I can buy 5000 acres in Texas for what a beach front condo in Cali costs. And not have to concede that it's okay for someone to rape my grandkids.
No offense.
A ranch in jackalope fugk TX sounds Uber appealing
Met a whole buncha Californians in Montana after spending a few summers up there.
Buncha great folks I call friends are from here.
I still find it funny everybody wants us to run away from the best piece of ground in the USA, rather than flood the State with conservatives and help change this place from blue to red.
I'd love to, but I can buy 5000 acres in Texas for what a beach front condo in Cali costs. And not have to concede that it's okay for someone to rape my grandkids.
No offense.
A ranch in jackalope fugk TX sounds Uber appealing
Meh...that's why we have liberals. Some people want easy.
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The reputation they have has been well earned.
I've met a few... You sir are a fuqking A hole. GFY and stick you lousy ammo where you'll never forget it. Hope this exceeds your expectations you fuqking mouth breathing inbreed
Grizz's conduct provides the perfect example of the California entitlement mentality that is so prevalent in some. That said, he truly is an embarrassment to the decent people of the state.
He threw a hissy fit/tantrum because I refused to sell ammo to him or put my livelihood at risk, by conducting business in a state that actively and maliciously goes after people in the ammo/firearms industry. His own governor had just signed legislation making it easier to go after gun and ammo manufacturers. But Grizz says that I am part of the problem because I won't risk everything I own, just to do sales in California.
The truly unfortunate part is that there are decent people in California who don't act like this, who are quietly going about their lives. But they go unnoticed because of all the people like Grizz who behave like they do, and the twits from Tahoe who trespass and poach, and the dipsticks who move in and try to turn quiet small western towns into exactly what they escaped from.
This was his classy response to RIO7" Awe go butt fuqk your mother rio "
Bold talk from behind a screen....
As one of our Campfire members has in his sig line, Conduct is best proof of Character.
I don't need to say anything bad about GRIZZ
The conduct of GRIZZ tells everything a person would ever need to know.
Why would I leave TX and possibly sacrifice its electoral votes to to try and fight for a state that has elected Pelosi, Waters, Schiff, Feinstein etc... for decades? It has become a one party state and nothing I do from TX will change it. Sorry, but your cesspool is beyond fighting for. Best thing for the nation is the build a fence around CA and shoot everyone that tries to leave.
Met a whole buncha Californians in Montana after spending a few summers up there.
Buncha great folks I call friends are from here.
I still find it funny everybody wants us to run away from the best piece of ground in the USA, rather than flood the State with conservatives and help change this place from blue to red.
I'd love to, but I can buy 5000 acres in Texas for what a beach front condo in Cali costs. And not have to concede that it's okay for someone to rape my grandkids.
No offense.
A ranch in jackalope fugk TX sounds Uber appealing
A ranch anywhere in the USA beats urban or suburban living anywhere else IMO.
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The reputation they have has been well earned.
I've met a few... You sir are a fuqking A hole. GFY and stick you lousy ammo where you'll never forget it. Hope this exceeds your expectations you fuqking mouth breathing inbreed
Grizz's conduct provides the perfect example of the California entitlement mentality that is so prevalent in some. That said, he truly is an embarrassment to the decent people of the state.
He threw a hissy fit/tantrum because I refused to sell ammo to him or put my livelihood at risk, by conducting business in a state that actively and maliciously goes after people in the ammo/firearms industry. His own governor had just signed legislation making it easier to go after gun and ammo manufacturers. But Grizz says that I am part of the problem because I won't risk everything I own, just to do sales in California.
The truly unfortunate part is that there are decent people in California who don't act like this, who are quietly going about their lives. But they go unnoticed because of all the people like Grizz who behave like they do, and the twits from Tahoe who trespass and poach, and the dipsticks who move in and try to turn quiet small western towns into exactly what they escaped from.
This was his classy response to RIO7" Awe go butt fuqk your mother rio "
Bold talk from behind a screen....
As one of our Campfire members has in his sig line, Conduct is best proof of Character.
I don't need to say anything bad about GRIZZ
The conduct of GRIZZ tells everything a person would ever need to know.
My wife has some relatives in Californistan. They're parents and grandparents moved there when it was still a decent place. Bad for the grandkids and kids. The ones I've met are good people. There's some I've not met. Who knows, how they are?
I live here. FML. Love the winters. Still in 90s. Hate the summers Hate the politics Love the $. If my wife and I werenât self Employed and own our own businesses. Weâd be gone. To Move and start from scratch with 3 kids, no fun. Cashing in on all the $ while I can.
I suspect native born Californios are a minority in this state.
My wife is "from California".
But, there are not many.
Up in this county, there are a goodly number born here...........................some don't really consider themselves Californios I bet. Jeffersonians, yeah.
I've lived in a lot of places across the country and beyond. One thing is a constant....there are lots of asswholes everywhere, CA just has more people and thus more asswholes than any other state.
Mackay what was the outcome of the fence cutting poachers? I assume you reported them as poaching elk and destruction of property couldnât be taken lightlyâŠ?
Why would I leave TX and possibly sacrifice its electoral votes to to try and fight for a state that has elected Pelosi, Waters, Schiff, Feinstein etc... for decades? It has become a one party state and nothing I do from TX will change it. Sorry, but your cesspool is beyond fighting for. Best thing for the nation is the build a fence around CA and shoot everyone that tries to leave.
I'm a 4th generation Californian. I'm 3rd generation Born Californian. As farmers, it's hard to think about leaving. In our area, we have plenty of water, senior water rights to a large reservoir, the best growing weather and the most fertile ground anywhere in the States.
Sierra Nevadas an hour away. Beautiful beaches, an hour and change away.
We deal with alot of cooks and demented politics. But I'm not a quitter. And I haven't found anything geographicly close to what we have. Except Chile.
Just left KA after over 25 years. I'm an AZ boy, only leaving to go into the Army and travel the world. When that was done, a custody battle and limited options had me in KA. Then later, aging parents, duty to family, and meeting the W kept me there.
Then 6 months ago. The opportunity to return came up. I jumped at it. So much so that I left a 27 year old job to leave.
Back in AZ.
Yes, there are good people all over KA. But they are far outnumbered by the libtards. The last 5 years in KA were brutal. Lived in a very nice place (water front property in Marina del Rey), but the heathens were but blocks away, and creeping ever closer by the day. Saw the amazing deterioration over the last 5 plus years, and it was shocking. While SoKal was never my thing, the drastic downturn the last 5 years or so could not be ignored. People eating at outdoor sidewalk tables while homeless are dropping trou and chitting in the gutter next to them. Seen it several times in Venice / Santa Monica. THAT did not happen 5 or more years ago.
My first impressions after being back in my home state the last few months, is that there are far fewer self absorbed and entitled people here. Even in the valley here (Goodyear area), it shocks me how many people go out of their way to hold open doors for you, give you a break and "let you in" in traffic, etc. Race seems much less an issue here. So far. People just seem to get along.
Yes, there are chitballs anywhere you go, but this is markedly different than the chithole I just left.
Very glad to be back from behind enemy lines, and to bring my conservative vote with me to a place where it still matters.
I've always been an AZ boy. Have nothing against the good people of Kalifornia. But the good people are so far outnumbered by the bad ones, the state is lost. And I detest the place. Because of the people who have been brainwashed to believe they are enlightened and "better people" all the while turning the state into a third world country.
There's A LOT of great people in KA you'd welcome as a neighbor any day. But....they're outnumbered. Outnumbered by a group that no longer wants to sleep in the bed they made for themselves, but are too fuggin' STUPID to see they did it to themselves, and are now bringing that mentality East of the Colorado.
I've lived in a lot of places across the country and beyond. One thing is a constant....there are lots of asswholes everywhere, CA just has more people and thus more asswholes than any other state.
Just left KA after over 25 years. I'm an AZ boy, only leaving to go into the Army and travel the world. When that was done, a custody battle and limited options had me in KA. Then later, aging parents, duty to family, and meeting the W kept me there.
Then 6 months ago. The opportunity to return came up. I jumped at it. So much so that I left a 27 year old job to leave.
Back in AZ.
Yes, there are good people all over KA. But they are far outnumbered by the libtards. The last 5 years in KA were brutal. Lived in a very nice place (water front property in Marina del Rey), but the heathens were but blocks away, and creeping ever closer by the day. Saw the amazing deterioration over the last 5 plus years, and it was shocking. While SoKal was never my thing, the drastic downturn the last 5 years or so could not be ignored. People eating at outdoor sidewalk tables while homeless are dropping trou and chitting in the gutter next to them. Seen it several times in Venice / Santa Monica. THAT did not happen 5 or more years ago.
My first impressions after being back in my home state the last few months, is that there are far fewer self absorbed and entitled people here. Even in the valley here (Goodyear area), it shocks me how many people go out of their way to hold open doors for you, give you a break and "let you in" in traffic, etc. Race seems much less an issue here. So far. People just seem to get along.
Yes, there are chitballs anywhere you go, but this is markedly different than the chithole I just left.
Very glad to be back from behind enemy lines, and to bring my conservative vote with me to a place where it still matters.
I've always been an AZ boy. Have nothing against the good people of Kalifornia. But the good people are so far outnumbered by the bad ones, the state is lost. And I detest the place. Because of the people who have been brainwashed to believe they are enlightened and "better people" all the while turning the state into a third world country.
There's A LOT of great people in KA you'd welcome as a neighbor any day. But....they're outnumbered. Outnumbered by a group that no longer wants to sleep in the bed they made for themselves, but are too fuggin' STUPID to see they did it to themselves, and are now bringing that mentality East of the Colorado.
A lot of the dumbfuggs here came from east of the Sierra Nevadas. Go figure.
Just left KA after over 25 years. I'm an AZ boy, only leaving to go into the Army and travel the world. When that was done, a custody battle and limited options had me in KA. Then later, aging parents, duty to family, and meeting the W kept me there.
Then 6 months ago. The opportunity to return came up. I jumped at it. So much so that I left a 27 year old job to leave.
Back in AZ.
Yes, there are good people all over KA. But they are far outnumbered by the libtards. The last 5 years in KA were brutal. Lived in a very nice place (water front property in Marina del Rey), but the heathens were but blocks away, and creeping ever closer by the day. Saw the amazing deterioration over the last 5 plus years, and it was shocking. While SoKal was never my thing, the drastic downturn the last 5 years or so could not be ignored. People eating at outdoor sidewalk tables while homeless are dropping trou and chitting in the gutter next to them. Seen it several times in Venice / Santa Monica. THAT did not happen 5 or more years ago.
My first impressions after being back in my home state the last few months, is that there are far fewer self absorbed and entitled people here. Even in the valley here (Goodyear area), it shocks me how many people go out of their way to hold open doors for you, give you a break and "let you in" in traffic, etc. Race seems much less an issue here. So far. People just seem to get along.
Yes, there are chitballs anywhere you go, but this is markedly different than the chithole I just left.
Very glad to be back from behind enemy lines, and to bring my conservative vote with me to a place where it still matters.
I've always been an AZ boy. Have nothing against the good people of Kalifornia. But the good people are so far outnumbered by the bad ones, the state is lost. And I detest the place. Because of the people who have been brainwashed to believe they are enlightened and "better people" all the while turning the state into a third world country.
There's A LOT of great people in KA you'd welcome as a neighbor any day. But....they're outnumbered. Outnumbered by a group that no longer wants to sleep in the bed they made for themselves, but are too fuggin' STUPID to see they did it to themselves, and are now bringing that mentality East of the Colorado.
A lot of the dumbfuggs here came from east of the Sierra Nevadas. Go figure.
No fuggin' doubt. East coasters and folks from liberal meccas moving to the West coast. Then from there North and back East a bit. But that started / happened decades ago. Now that they've completely fugged up KA, they're fleeing to other places East.
Personally (tinfoil hat on), I believe it is all planned. The politicians of these liberal chitholes are simply not that incompetent. They know there are simply no repercussions for their BS policies, because they have such a stronghold on the areas they govern. Their goal (I believe) is to drive out their voting base to conservative areas to turn those areas - and ultimately, as a result - completely eliminate red states. They WANT to turn their areas into such chitholes that they drive out their liberal constituents out to plague red states with their mental illness, because they know, no matter how many libtards flee these areas, they have zero concern over their areas turning "red".
I met one today at the feed store. I was picking up my feed order and she was backed up to the dock literally smoking a cigarette and lighting the next one with the last one. I was standing on the dock waiting for them to finish loading my two pallets of 21% protein pellets talking with one of the hands. I noticed about 15-18 butts on the ground by her door. I excused myself and walked over and asked her where she was from, she replied Sacramento, and I asked if she tossed her cigarette butts on the ground in that liberal chithole, she looked offended and replied no. I told her she had until I reached my truck to get out and pick those up or I was calling the sheriff. She balked at first until I told her the fine was $500 and repeat offenders could face 6 months in jail and a $2k fine, and the sheriff might treat each butt as a repeat offense.
Her fat pink and blue haired ass got out and picked each on up and put them in the trash can on the dock.
Someone who tosses cigarette butts out of the window is someone I can easily hate.
I was engaged to a school administrator from San Diego for a short time, longer than I should have been. Her politics and beliefs were so far left you couldn't see them from the center. She was a lot of fun and made serious scratch and was extremely easy on the eyes.
I've lived in a lot of places across the country and beyond. One thing is a constant....there are lots of asswholes everywhere, CA just has more people and thus more asswholes than any other state.
This. Lived there 72-73, 88-91.
Roughly 20 million population in 1970, 30 million in 1990 and over 40 million today
California hasnât been âcoolâ since the 80âs. It may have beautiful weather but who the Fugg wants to live much less move there? Unless youâre trapped anyone that can get out has been getting out for years.
Between the taxes, commie politicians, gun control, illegals, fuel taxes, and overall cost of living. Unless you have money to burn and multiple out of state homes or are stuck their for family reasons itâs about the last place that most would want to live.
I met one today at the feed store. I was picking up my feed order and she was backed up to the dock literally smoking a cigarette and lighting the next one with the last one. I was standing on the dock waiting for them to finish loading my two pallets of 21% protein pellets talking with one of the hands. I noticed about 15-18 butts on the ground by her door. I excused myself and walked over and asked her where she was from, she replied Sacramento, and I asked if she tossed her cigarette butts on the ground in that liberal chithole, she looked offended and replied no. I told her she had until I reached my truck to get out and pick those up or I was calling the sheriff. She balked at first until I told her the fine was $500 and repeat offenders could face 6 months in jail and a $2k fine, and the sheriff might treat each butt as a repeat offense.
Her fat pink and blue haired ass got out and picked each on up and put them in the trash can on the dock.
Someone who tosses cigarette butts out of the window is someone I can easily hate.
I was engaged to a school administrator from San Diego for a short time, longer than I should have been. Her politics and beliefs were so far left you couldn't see them from the center. She was a lot of fun and made serious scratch and was extremely easy on the eyes.
I met one today at the feed store. I was picking up my feed order and she was backed up to the dock literally smoking a cigarette and lighting the next one with the last one. I was standing on the dock waiting for them to finish loading my two pallets of 21% protein pellets talking with one of the hands. I noticed about 15-18 butts on the ground by her door. I excused myself and walked over and asked her where she was from, she replied Sacramento, and I asked if she tossed her cigarette butts on the ground in that liberal chithole, she looked offended and replied no. I told her she had until I reached my truck to get out and pick those up or I was calling the sheriff. She balked at first until I told her the fine was $500 and repeat offenders could face 6 months in jail and a $2k fine, and the sheriff might treat each butt as a repeat offense.
Her fat pink and blue haired ass got out and picked each on up and put them in the trash can on the dock.
Someone who tosses cigarette butts out of the window is someone I can easily hate.
I was engaged to a school administrator from San Diego for a short time, longer than I should have been. Her politics and beliefs were so far left you couldn't see them from the center. She was a lot of fun and made serious scratch and was extremely easy on the eyes.
You must be the local badass.
And thatâs why people are leaving CA in droves. I donât condone tossing cigarette butts out of windows. Six months in jail for something as minor as throwing a cigarette butt out the window (but taking a sh1t on the street and tent cities are legal) and then an asshat local running up to your window threatening to turn you in to the cigarette police for a six month jail stint⊠No thanks.
I met one today at the feed store. I was picking up my feed order and she was backed up to the dock literally smoking a cigarette and lighting the next one with the last one. I was standing on the dock waiting for them to finish loading my two pallets of 21% protein pellets talking with one of the hands. I noticed about 15-18 butts on the ground by her door. I excused myself and walked over and asked her where she was from, she replied Sacramento, and I asked if she tossed her cigarette butts on the ground in that liberal chithole, she looked offended and replied no. I told her she had until I reached my truck to get out and pick those up or I was calling the sheriff. She balked at first until I told her the fine was $500 and repeat offenders could face 6 months in jail and a $2k fine, and the sheriff might treat each butt as a repeat offense.
Her fat pink and blue haired ass got out and picked each on up and put them in the trash can on the dock.
Someone who tosses cigarette butts out of the window is someone I can easily hate.
I was engaged to a school administrator from San Diego for a short time, longer than I should have been. Her politics and beliefs were so far left you couldn't see them from the center. She was a lot of fun and made serious scratch and was extremely easy on the eyes.
You must be the local badass.
And thatâs why people are leaving CA in droves. I donât condone tossing cigarette butts out of windows. Six months in jail for something as minor as throwing a cigarette butt out the window and an asshat local running up to your window threatening to turn you in for itâŠ
No thanks.
Yeah, I think you have it backwards....Darryle and the 6 months stuff is Texas.
California hasnât been âcoolâ since the 80âs. It may have beautiful weather but who the Fugg wants to live much less move there? Unless youâre trapped anyone that can get out has been getting out for years.
Between the taxes, commie politicians, gun control, illegals, fuel taxes, and overall cost of living. Unless you have money to burn and multiple out of state homes or are stuck their for family reasons itâs about the last place that most would want to live.
You are aware itâs the most populated state in the countryâŠ?
California hasnât been âcoolâ since the 80âs. It may have beautiful weather but who the Fugg wants to live much less move there? Unless youâre trapped anyone that can get out has been getting out for years.
Between the taxes, commie politicians, gun control, illegals, fuel taxes, and overall cost of living. Unless you have money to burn and multiple out of state homes or are stuck their for family reasons itâs about the last place that most would want to live.
You are aware itâs the most populated state in the countryâŠ?
Hate and distrust of "outsiders" is a human trait that goes back to biblical times.
I've known some people from California. One, years ago, was the quintessential California surfer-girl and one of the first girls I thought I was in love with. Several Navy buddies from California and they were regular guys. Currently an old Navy friend and an old girlfriend in San Diego and they are good people too.
Believe it or not, there are homegrown azz wholes everywhere and there are immigrants from every state who make where they move to a better place.
Unfortunately for many, it's the idiots that tend go get and hold our attention. Also, many people just need to have someone to look down on or complain about.
In our case, it's not the typical outsider hate. The people flooding in from California are arriving with buckets of money and driving the cost of everything up. For quite a while, a local family shopping for a house had no chance because these people were buying properties over the phone sight unseen for more than the asking price. Then they bitch and moan because the field nextdoor has horses kicking up dust or some forest road isn't paved. And they all buy a truck or SUV upon arrival, soon to be followed by a Razor that they think they should be able to ride anywhere they want as fast as they want. I could go on, but the list would be too long.
And your fellow residents/neighbors are more than happy to empty the buckets, aren't they ?
My friends and neighbors would be happy if we'd built a wall on the Nevada border at McDermott and turned everything with California plates. The majority of developers and contractors making a killing here are also from out of state. Locusts following every boom. Yeah, we'd like to empty a bucket on the heads of all the politicritters and promotors singing "come to Idaho".
I live here. FML. Love the winters. Still in 90s. Hate the summers Hate the politics Love the $. If my wife and I werenât self Employed and own our own businesses. Weâd be gone. To Move and start from scratch with 3 kids, no fun. Cashing in on all the $ while I can.
There's some fair fishing to be had in California...đ One if the main reason I have been so successful is that I've always had weekdays off work. It would be a lot different if I was a "weekend warrior". Again, likely here know, the only reason I'm still here is because my life is completely intertwined with my wife 30 years and she absolutely refuses to leave lifelong friends and family. If we were forced to live in a suburb subdivision things might be different.
I live in a beautiful home where I can shoot in my backyard.
The people we call friends are not a single bit different that and solid conservative people that I've ever met in my travels across the United States....that's a fact.
Recent California fishing. There is very little competition on the rivers during the week. We have World Class fishing.
There's some fair fishing to be had in California. One if the main reason I have been so successful is that I've always had weekdays off work. It would be a lot different if I was a "weekend warrior". Again, likely here know, the only reason I'm still here is because my life is completely intertwined with my wife 30 years and she absolutely refuses to leave lifelong friends and family. If we were forced to live in a suburb subdivision things might be different.
I live in a beautiful home where I can shoot in my backyard.
The people we call friends are not a single bit different that and solid conservative people that I've ever met in my travels across the United States....that's a fact.
Recent California fishing. There is very little competition on the rivers during the week. We have World Class fishing.
Nice. I admire that you're staying and fighting the good fight.
California has some fantastic country and resources. And the state has done some things right in recovering damaged environment and improving it over what it had become by the sixties. I would not be opposed to applying some of their environmental regulations here - the ones that worked and aren't over the line. But those fleeing the place and coming here aren't helping anybody but themselves. Can't blame 'em, but I don't have to respect that.
Thank you. I know I'm not the "typical Californian".
I only try to show these here at the fire that there are exceptions to the rule and that when you paint things with a broad brush, you aren't always correct. I definitely know that my friends and myself are not the norm.
There's some fair fishing to be had in California...đ One if the main reason I have been so successful is that I've always had weekdays off work. It would be a lot different if I was a "weekend warrior". Again, likely here know, the only reason I'm still here is because my life is completely intertwined with my wife 30 years and she absolutely refuses to leave lifelong friends and family. If we were forced to live in a suburb subdivision things might be different.
I live in a beautiful home where I can shoot in my backyard.
You better get shooting, there's a wolf on your lawn!
California hasnât been âcoolâ since the 80âs. It may have beautiful weather but who the Fugg wants to live much less move there? Unless youâre trapped anyone that can get out has been getting out for years.
Between the taxes, commie politicians, gun control, illegals, fuel taxes, and overall cost of living. Unless you have money to burn and multiple out of state homes or are stuck their for family reasons itâs about the last place that most would want to live.
You are aware itâs the most populated state in the countryâŠ?
Don't let facts get in the way.
And there is the most important comment.
"You are aware itâs the most populated state in the countryâŠ?[/quote] Don't let facts get in the way."
I'm pressed for time so I can't get into details. I'll just recommend googling up "The Rat Syndrome in the Scientific American. It give some interesting facts on what happens when populations grow too big. BTW, this was all know way back in 1961. PJ
Speaking of Californians, I left California for good in 1968. Only times I ever went back was for birthdays and holidays with family IF I could get off work. Many times I could not. Now, there is only one person left that can be called kin. A half sister that hates me about as much as I cannot stand her. Big Biden supporter, chewed me out publicly on fecesbook because I supported Trump, rabid gun hater and just plain bitch. No reason to go back and visit. One of us would probably be tried for murder. PJ
Mackay what was the outcome of the fence cutting poachers? I assume you reported them as poaching elk and destruction of property couldnât be taken lightlyâŠ?
He didn't report it cause it didn't happen. Just another attempt to bash anyone or anything California. We all live rent free in his head apparently. If anything this thread illustrates the real reason Mackay boy refuses to traffic his ammo in California. It has nothing to do with the law or his self proclaimed paranoia of being sued or the ATF banging down his door He just hates anyone from California solely on their geograpic location it's all he has to lash out with, pathetic... I'm starting to think some California transplant dude popped his wife.
My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
That's funny right there...
You really should be more respectful to someone that fought for and served our country... Your azz is showing
Just because someone served his country doesn't give him a pass on being unreasonable for no good reason other than " despise" (his words) folks based on where they come from. Last I checked we're still allowed to move from state to state without anyone's permission especially the likes of him. I've a few hunting buddies who moved their businesses to the Boise/Eagle area they've each bought homes in town along with homes with acreage. Good deals up there LOL. When I decide to cash out and leave California I'll relocate to wherever the fuqk I want.
My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
That's funny right there...
You really should be more respectful to someone that fought for and served our country... Your azz is showing
Just because someone served his country doesn't give him a pass on being unreasanable for no good reason other than " despise" (his words) folks based on where they come from. Last I checked we're still allowed to move from state to state without anyone's permission especially the likes of him. I've a few hunting buddies who moved their businesses to the Boise/Eagle area they've each bought homes in town along with homes with acreage. When I decide to cash out and leave California I'll relocate to wherever the fuqk I want.
My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
That's funny right there...
You really should be more respectful to someone that fought for and served our country... Your azz is showing
Just because someone served his country doesn't give him a pass on being unreasanable for no good reason other than " despise" (his words) folks based on where they come from. Last I checked we're still allowed to move from state to state without anyone's permission especially the likes of him. I've a few hunting buddies who moved their businesses to the Boise/Eagle area they've each bought homes in town along with homes with acreage. When I decide to cash out and leave California I'll relocate to wherever the fuqk I want.
I hear Texas is nice
On the short list friend along with the Reno area.
My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
That's funny right there...
You really should be more respectful to someone that fought for and served our country... Your azz is showing
Just because someone served his country doesn't give him a pass on being unreasonable for no good reason other than " despise" (his words) folks based on where they come from. Last I checked we're still allowed to move from state to state without anyone's permission especially the likes of him. I've a few hunting buddies who moved their businesses to the Boise/Eagle area they've each bought homes in town along with homes with acreage. Good deals up there LOL. When I decide to cash out and leave California I'll relocate to wherever the fuqk I want.
You and your imaginary buddies can eat a dick.
Youâve shown your blown out man pĂ»ssy, but now canât back off.
My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
That's funny right there...
You really should be more respectful to someone that fought for and served our country... Your azz is showing
Just because someone served his country doesn't give him a pass on being unreasonable for no good reason other than " despise" (his words) folks based on where they come from. Last I checked we're still allowed to move from state to state without anyone's permission especially the likes of him. I've a few hunting buddies who moved their businesses to the Boise/Eagle area they've each bought homes in town along with homes with acreage. Good deals up there LOL. When I decide to cash out and leave California I'll relocate to wherever the fuqk I want.
You and your imaginary buddies can eat a dick.
Youâve shown your blown out man pĂ»ssy, but now canât back off.
Awe go suck start a Glock you sniveling qhunt. Laffin
My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
That's funny right there...
You really should be more respectful to someone that fought for and served our country... Your azz is showing
Just because someone served his country doesn't give him a pass on being unreasonable for no good reason other than " despise" (his words) folks based on where they come from. Last I checked we're still allowed to move from state to state without anyone's permission especially the likes of him. I've a few hunting buddies who moved their businesses to the Boise/Eagle area they've each bought homes in town along with homes with acreage. Good deals up there LOL. When I decide to cash out and leave California I'll relocate to wherever the fuqk I want.
You and your imaginary buddies can eat a dick.
Youâve shown your blown out man pĂ»ssy, but now canât back off.
Awe go suck start a Glock you sniveling qhunt. Laffin
Cûnts like this are why all the good dudes in Cali get shßt on unfortunately.
My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
That's funny right there...
You really should be more respectful to someone that fought for and served our country... Your azz is showing
Just because someone served his country doesn't give him a pass on being unreasonable for no good reason other than " despise" (his words) folks based on where they come from. Last I checked we're still allowed to move from state to state without anyone's permission especially the likes of him. I've a few hunting buddies who moved their businesses to the Boise/Eagle area they've each bought homes in town along with homes with acreage. Good deals up there LOL. When I decide to cash out and leave California I'll relocate to wherever the fuqk I want.
You and your imaginary buddies can eat a dick.
Youâve shown your blown out man pĂ»ssy, but now canât back off.
Awe go suck start a Glock you sniveling qhunt. Laffin
Cûnts like this are why all the good dudes in Cali get shßt on unfortunately.
I wouldn't move to Montana or Idaho... These states are getting a little blue around the gills LOL. GFY muff.
My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
That's funny right there...
You really should be more respectful to someone that fought for and served our country... Your azz is showing
Just because someone served his country doesn't give him a pass on being unreasonable for no good reason other than " despise" (his words) folks based on where they come from. Last I checked we're still allowed to move from state to state without anyone's permission especially the likes of him. I've a few hunting buddies who moved their businesses to the Boise/Eagle area they've each bought homes in town along with homes with acreage. Good deals up there LOL. When I decide to cash out and leave California I'll relocate to wherever the fuqk I want.
You and your imaginary buddies can eat a dick.
Youâve shown your blown out man pĂ»ssy, but now canât back off.
Awe go suck start a Glock you sniveling qhunt. Laffin
Says a sniveling cĂŒntâŠ
I have no issue with telling out of staters that theyâre losing business by not sending legal firearms and related to California, as most are uninformed as to what is legal and what is not. However Mackey is 100% correct in not shipping to you, in that it is currently illegal for ammo to not go through our stupid process. Thus opening himself up to prosecution. You really want that ammo, have it shipped to an address outside the state, then go fetch it yourself. Put all the liability on your own damned self.
And for goodnessâ sake, quit showing your ass and proving to a bunch of California haters that they are completely correct in portraying everyone in California as a bunch of entitled Ă€ssholes.
GRIZZ's cowardly and low class conduct speaks for itself.
The more he talks, and shows his true character, the more I wonder if decent people are not moving out of California just to get away from ones like him.
Couple few. Not many. Some have a way of making it back to this extremity of the north east US. Others leave for the other side of same. Like some kind of geographical bipolar displacement. I can tell a west coast transfer in 3 seconds of observation. Confirmation in 5 seconds of conversation.
I hated it so bad at age 5, I decided to move to Tennessee...lol In reality Northern California is totally different than the rest of the state. I still have family out there but have non plans to move back. I was born in the heart of Marijuana country, the Emerald Triangle in Humboldt county. I'll stop here.
[quote=Scott_Thornley Mackey is 100% correct in not shipping to you, in that it is currently illegal for ammo to not go through our stupid process. Thus opening himself up to prosecution. You really want that ammo, have it shipped to an address outside the state, then go fetch it yourself. Put all the liability on your own damned self.
Really up on the CA gun laws ain't ya. Any licensed ammo dealer or Manufacturer can send ammo to their buyers FFL in CA. I explained that to Mackey fuqk but he chose to be a dick. He can shove his ammo and Thornley you can stuff yourself as well stupid fuqk. Mackey coward, really as you hide behind your offspring and keyboard what a character. LOL
Higginez; Good evening my southern friend, I hope the day behaved for you, your fine family is well and you're getting the weather you need.
We're in the middle of a heat wave up here which is extending the fruit and grape harvest for sure, but makes hunting a little sporty in terms of getting anything that dies off the dusty, hot mountains in a big hurry before it spoils.
In the halcyon days before the beer flu and Crown Prince Sock's Evil Minions totaled our tourism industry, we used to get lots of California plates up here, especially in winter as we've got fairly famous "champagne powder" here in the Okanagan. That and our Canadian Loonie worth next to not much meant it was feasible.
Indeed you seem to be a fine fellow or have been to me, so there is that as well.
Oh, I've got a niece through marriage who is from near your part of the world - Folsom I want to say - and she's a fantastic addition to the family in all ways.
We in BC are often tarred with the same West Coast brush that the US West Coast seems to be. Some of it's warranted I suppose, but like California or anywhere I'd guess, BC is a comparatively large land mass and folks who live in say downtown Victoria or Vancouver proper may have no idea places like Grasmere or Chetwynd exist even though they're in BC.
Many of us from the rural areas know about the bigger cities because that's where the bigger airport is, as well as a bunch of bigger universities.
That said Higginez, folks being folks, can pretty much be malignant rectal orifices wherever they're born if they have a real mind to. We've got a couple here that were born and raised, though two of them are "no longer with us" as the euphemism goes, so it gives us all a reminder that all of us are just passing through, wherever it is we're at today.
Anyways, just a few random thoughts from the bear invested, dry and still sunny south Okanagan tonight.
All the best to you all and good luck on your hunts.
Higginez; Good evening my southern friend, I hope the day behaved for you, your fine family is well and you're getting the weather you need.
We're in the middle of a heat wave up here which is extending the fruit and grape harvest for sure, but makes hunting a little sporty in terms of getting anything that dies off the dusty, hot mountains in a big hurry before it spoils.
In the halcyon days before the beer flu and Crown Prince Sock's Evil Minions totaled our tourism industry, we used to get lots of California plates up here, especially in winter as we've got fairly famous "champagne powder" here in the Okanagan. That and our Canadian Loonie worth next to not much meant it was feasible.
Indeed you seem to be a fine fellow or have been to me, so there is that as well.
Oh, I've got a niece through marriage who is from near your part of the world - Folsom I want to say - and she's a fantastic addition to the family in all ways.
We in BC are often tarred with the same West Coast brush that the US West Coast seems to be. Some of it's warranted I suppose, but like California or anywhere I'd guess, BC is a comparatively large land mass and folks who live in say downtown Victoria or Vancouver proper may have no idea places like Grasmere or Chetwynd exist even though they're in BC.
Many of us from the rural areas know about the bigger cities because that's where the bigger airport is, as well as a bunch of bigger universities.
That said Higginez, folks being folks, can pretty much be malignant rectal orifices wherever they're born if they have a real mind to. We've got a couple here that were born and raised, though two of them are "no longer with us" as the euphemism goes, so it gives us all a reminder that all of us are just passing through, wherever it is we're at today.
Anyways, just a few random thoughts from the bear invested, dry and still sunny south Okanagan tonight.
All the best to you all and good luck on your hunts.
Dwayne
Dwayne,
We are all good here as I hope you and yours are up there as well.
I laughed pretty good at the description of "malignant rectal orifices" comment and couldn't help but think of Roger Miller when you stated "if you've a mind to". LOL
With GRIZZ's incredible interpersonal skills (as he constantly demonstrates), imagine having him carrying your ammo in his gun..
It is not a matter of "if" his mouth is going to get him into trouble, but "when", and you know he is all mouth, so he will surely do something incredibly stupid.
My dad was born in Bakersfield in 1933, but raised in Arkansas and California, as my grandparents were sharecroppers. Have another friend that was also born in Bakersfield. A field I work with is from San Diego and moved back there last year. My buddy that just moved from AK to AZ was born and raised in Cali. He claims he made the San Diego Padres farm club but was in Army, I call BS on that story though. Being prior military, I served with lots of people from Cali and still have family on my mothers side in the LA area.
" Not everybody from California can just up and move out because the state is so screwed up. Many have ties and obligations that keep them there." Yep, this is my situation.
Mine too, 4 grand kiddos.
Most people around here are really good people.
I don't think I can judge a person, on where they come from. Doing this, you might find out you missed out on some really good friendships.
Couple few. Not many. Some have a way of making it back to this extremity of the north east US. Others leave for the other side of same. Like some kind of geographical bipolar displacement. I can tell a west coast transfer in 3 seconds of observation. Confirmation in 5 seconds of conversation.
With GRIZZ's incredible interpersonal skills (as he constantly demonstrates), imagine having him carrying your ammo in his gun..
It is not a matter of "if" his mouth is going to get him into trouble, but "when", and you know he is all mouth, so he will surely do something incredibly stupid.
Nope.
My business. My choice.
A man should have a right to choose not to do business with idiots. And a man is wise to make that choice.
The first person I met was a self admitted junkie. Apparently, thereâs not a ton of self respect in Cali.
The second was a real cool dude. He said he left Cali because of the murders.
So how long has it been since you moved out of California? lol
Drugs are everywhere. Even in the great state of Montana. I used to live in Montana, I ran across a lot of people from California, most of them wanted to put up a gate at the state line once they had all their stuffed moved in. Drugs were there, along with a big alcohol problem. I doubt if any of that has changed. I was a contractor in Montana, built some really nice homes for people who came from all over the U.S.
I'm a loser? Not so sure you'd talk like that to me face to face.
Talking about some good people, I know the gentleman in that clip, who is laughing. I know lots of people. Most are good people some others not so much.
I'm a loser? Not so sure you'd talk like that to me face to face.
Talking about some good people, I know the gentleman in that clip, who is laughing. I know lots of people. Most are good people some others not so much.
Mackey is 100% correct in not shipping to you, in that it is currently illegal for ammo to not go through our stupid process. Thus opening himself up to prosecution. You really want that ammo, have it shipped to an address outside the state, then go fetch it yourself. Put all the liability on your own damned self.
Really up on the CA gun laws ain't ya. Any licensed ammo dealer or Manufacturer can send ammo to their buyers FFL in CA. I explained that to Mackey fuqk but he chose to be a dick. He can shove his ammo and Thornley you can stuff yourself as well stupid fuqk. Mackey coward, really as you hide behind your offspring and keyboard what a character. LOL
Ah, I get it. You did want to go through the correct process, and not have him ship direct to you. But he chose not to, so your response is to show your ass for thousands to see. While simultaneously proving to Mackay that he made a sound decision not having fĂŒck all to do with you.
There's some fair fishing to be had in California...đ One if the main reason I have been so successful is that I've always had weekdays off work. It would be a lot different if I was a "weekend warrior". Again, likely here know, the only reason I'm still here is because my life is completely intertwined with my wife 30 years and she absolutely refuses to leave lifelong friends and family. If we were forced to live in a suburb subdivision things might be different.
I live in a beautiful home where I can shoot in my backyard.
You better get shooting, there's a wolf on your lawn!
I've met and know a ton of folks from CA. They're a mix just like anywhere. Once you get outside of the major metro areas, the good people far outnumber the whackos. It's really sad that the whackos are in charge and have been since Reagan. Come to think of it, that was about the time they instituted mail in voting and never again had conservatives or moderates in charge. Mmmmmm.
CA is far and away the best state in the nation. Close access to every different type of activity (outdoor and otherwise), close access to every different type of ecosystem. Within a couple hours one can be in a desert, on top of mountains (real ones), out to sea, up a river, down a river, at a world class bass fishing lake, etc., etc.
I would not choose to live there just because of what's happened in the last few decades with the people who make the decisions.
If Mrs. Geno gets some kind of insane offer from one of their tier one research unis, I'll follow her there and support her of course but that's the only way I could see myself being a CA resident. I keep my fingers crossed that one of the FL ones make her that offer, but they're hard to come by. More likely, we'll be on the east coast or a flyover state for a couple years and then back to FL or TX somewhere near the coast.
I've met and know a ton of folks from CA. They're a mix just like anywhere. Once you get outside of the major metro areas, the good people far outnumber the whackos. It's really sad that the whackos are in charge and have been since Reagan. Come to think of it, that was about the time they instituted mail in voting and never again had conservatives or moderates in charge. Mmmmmm.
CA is far and away the best state in the nation. Close access to every different type of activity (outdoor and otherwise), close access to every different type of ecosystem. Within a couple hours one can be in a desert, on top of mountains (real ones), out to sea, up a river, down a river, at a world class bass fishing lake, etc., etc.
I would not choose to live there just because of what's happened in the last few decades with the people who make the decisions.
If Mrs. Geno gets some kind of insane offer from one of their tier one research unis, I'll follow her there and support her of course but that's the only way I could see myself being a CA resident. I keep my fingers crossed that one of the FL ones make her that offer, but they're hard to come by. More likely, we'll be on the east coast or a flyover state for a couple years and then back to FL or TX somewhere near the coast.
It canât be both ways. California is a nightmare and they are leaving California as fast as they moved there in the 60âs.
California with all itâs virtue, is still a disasterâŠ
I've met and know a ton of folks from CA. They're a mix just like anywhere. Once you get outside of the major metro areas, the good people far outnumber the whackos. It's really sad that the whackos are in charge and have been since Reagan. Come to think of it, that was about the time they instituted mail in voting and never again had conservatives or moderates in charge. Mmmmmm.
CA is far and away the best state in the nation. Close access to every different type of activity (outdoor and otherwise), close access to every different type of ecosystem. Within a couple hours one can be in a desert, on top of mountains (real ones), out to sea, up a river, down a river, at a world class bass fishing lake, etc., etc.
I would not choose to live there just because of what's happened in the last few decades with the people who make the decisions.
If Mrs. Geno gets some kind of insane offer from one of their tier one research unis, I'll follow her there and support her of course but that's the only way I could see myself being a CA resident. I keep my fingers crossed that one of the FL ones make her that offer, but they're hard to come by. More likely, we'll be on the east coast or a flyover state for a couple years and then back to FL or TX somewhere near the coast.
It canât be both ways. California is a nightmare and they are leaving California as fast as they moved there in the 60âs.
California with all itâs virtue, is still a disasterâŠ
It is both ways. The land and waters are the best and the people in control are the worst. The concept is simple when boiled down to it's basest points.
My most recent meeting of a Cali resident was last summer[2021]. A guy bought a house up the street from ours in Tenn. He's planning to retire there but that was a couple of years off so he'll be renting until then. My bud was getting it 'rent ready' and called me to come help. Turns out the guy is a FBLie agent. He was there and I peppered him with questions the whole time.
He swore that he voted for Trump the 1st go but couldn't the 2nd go after all he had learned
He also was adamant that Hunters laptop was a a plant and fake[most likely by Russian agents]
I told him that he was either brainwashed or lying[Trump 2016] and that East Tenn wasn't really a good match for him. Haven't seen him since.
I've met and know a ton of folks from CA. They're a mix just like anywhere. Once you get outside of the major metro areas, the good people far outnumber the whackos. It's really sad that the whackos are in charge and have been since Reagan. Come to think of it, that was about the time they instituted mail in voting and never again had conservatives or moderates in charge. Mmmmmm.
CA is far and away the best state in the nation. Close access to every different type of activity (outdoor and otherwise), close access to every different type of ecosystem. Within a couple hours one can be in a desert, on top of mountains (real ones), out to sea, up a river, down a river, at a world class bass fishing lake, etc., etc.
I would not choose to live there just because of what's happened in the last few decades with the people who make the decisions.
If Mrs. Geno gets some kind of insane offer from one of their tier one research unis, I'll follow her there and support her of course but that's the only way I could see myself being a CA resident. I keep my fingers crossed that one of the FL ones make her that offer, but they're hard to come by. More likely, we'll be on the east coast or a flyover state for a couple years and then back to FL or TX somewhere near the coast.
It canât be both ways. California is a nightmare and they are leaving California as fast as they moved there in the 60âs.
California with all itâs virtue, is still a disasterâŠ
It is both ways. The land and waters are the best and the people in control are the worst. The concept is simple when boiled down to it's basest points.
I've met and know a ton of folks from CA. They're a mix just like anywhere. Once you get outside of the major metro areas, the good people far outnumber the whackos. It's really sad that the whackos are in charge and have been since Reagan. Come to think of it, that was about the time they instituted mail in voting and never again had conservatives or moderates in charge. Mmmmmm.
CA is far and away the best state in the nation. Close access to every different type of activity (outdoor and otherwise), close access to every different type of ecosystem. Within a couple hours one can be in a desert, on top of mountains (real ones), out to sea, up a river, down a river, at a world class bass fishing lake, etc., etc.
I would not choose to live there just because of what's happened in the last few decades with the people who make the decisions.
If Mrs. Geno gets some kind of insane offer from one of their tier one research unis, I'll follow her there and support her of course but that's the only way I could see myself being a CA resident. I keep my fingers crossed that one of the FL ones make her that offer, but they're hard to come by. More likely, we'll be on the east coast or a flyover state for a couple years and then back to FL or TX somewhere near the coast.
It canât be both ways. California is a nightmare and they are leaving California as fast as they moved there in the 60âs.
California with all itâs virtue, is still a disasterâŠ
It is both ways. The land and waters are the best and the people in control are the worst. The concept is simple when boiled down to it's basest points.
I have to agree I have lived here for over 30 years and I have watched this State Change. I know it was changing before I moved here but it has changed dramatically since I have been here I have always hung out with the Conservatives I can not take a Libtard longer than about 5 minutes. The Area I live in is Conservative for the most part and the Libtards keep their mouth shut or get verbally beat up about their crap. There is a Line between the Great things here in Commyfornia and the Political aspects of the State. One has to decide for them selves if they want to enjoy the positive things and put up with the BS. I have always been a fighter (not physically) but there comes a time in some peoples lives where the fight is just to old to do anymore.
The Pace I have Property in Arizona is a majority of Conservative Commyfornia Transplants. And the Conservatives up there are Fanatic about keeping our Area Free from the Libtard attitude no matter where they come from.
It is the Wild West up there and the Conservatives are winning the Battles. We as a Community have stayed strong and have had the Libtard Control Freaks leave our Community one by one. It has been an up hill battle and people have even been shot at. I have been threatened many times but we have hope and support for other owners in our Community unlike Commyfornia where the only ones that will help with anything is your immediate neighbors if they will even help. And most of them when the going gets tough they are no where to be found.
I have a Friend up in Arizona that told me that the Mountain will decide if it lets you stay or makes you leave. Commyfornia will do everything in it power to make you stay and it is very hard for some people to take the hooks out and get out when they want to get out. I am having a Hard time financially leaving this State and I am Tired of all of the Politics holding me here. If you are a Politician as part of your life's attitude Lie , Cheat and Steel you can do pretty good in Commyfornia. If you try to be honest and hard working it bites you in the ARRs if you are not connected.
Some people (me) are tired of the heavy air that hold you down in Commyfornia and strive to be in a place that has lighter air so that you can breath and live instead of just survive . Unfortunately the Libtards have moved out and took their Screwed up control believes with them. A Libtard will always be a libtard they will never change and a Conservative will always be a Conservative. I was lucky to find a Conservative Community willing to fight for their freedoms very strongly up in Arizona. Commyfornia is lost to the Dark side Politically in the big city's and it is the big city's that control the State.
I've met and know a ton of folks from CA. They're a mix just like anywhere. Once you get outside of the major metro areas, the good people far outnumber the whackos. It's really sad that the whackos are in charge and have been since Reagan. Come to think of it, that was about the time they instituted mail in voting and never again had conservatives or moderates in charge. Mmmmmm.
CA is far and away the best state in the nation. Close access to every different type of activity (outdoor and otherwise), close access to every different type of ecosystem. Within a couple hours one can be in a desert, on top of mountains (real ones), out to sea, up a river, down a river, at a world class bass fishing lake, etc., etc.
I would not choose to live there just because of what's happened in the last few decades with the people who make the decisions.
If Mrs. Geno gets some kind of insane offer from one of their tier one research unis, I'll follow her there and support her of course but that's the only way I could see myself being a CA resident. I keep my fingers crossed that one of the FL ones make her that offer, but they're hard to come by. More likely, we'll be on the east coast or a flyover state for a couple years and then back to FL or TX somewhere near the coast.
It canât be both ways. California is a nightmare and they are leaving California as fast as they moved there in the 60âs.
California with all itâs virtue, is still a disasterâŠ
It is both ways. The land and waters are the best and the people in control are the worst. The concept is simple when boiled down to it's basest points.
I have to agree I have lived here for over 30 years and I have watched this State Change. I know it was changing before I moved here but it has changed dramatically since I have been here I have always hung out with the Conservatives I can not take a Libtard longer than about 5 minutes. The Area I live in is Conservative for the most part and the Libtards keep their mouth shut or get verbally beat up about their crap. There is a Line between the Great things here in Commyfornia and the Political aspects of the State. One has to decide for them selves if they want to enjoy the positive things and put up with the BS. I have always been a fighter (not physically) but there comes a time in some peoples lives where the fight is just to old to do anymore.
The Pace I have Property in Arizona is a majority of Conservative Commyfornia Transplants. And the Conservatives up there are Fanatic about keeping our Area Free from the Libtard attitude no matter where they come from.
It is the Wild West up there and the Conservatives are winning the Battles. We as a Community have stayed strong and have had the Libtard Control Freaks leave our Community one by one. It has been an up hill battle and people have even been shot at. I have been threatened many times but we have hope and support for other owners in our Community unlike Commyfornia where the only ones that will help with anything is your immediate neighbors if they will even help. And most of them when the going gets tough they are no where to be found.
I have a Friend up in Arizona that told me that the Mountain will decide if it lets you stay or makes you leave. Commyfornia will do everything in it power to make you stay and it is very hard for some people to take the hooks out and get out when they want to get out. I am having a Hard time financially leaving this State and I am Tired of all of the Politics holding me here. If you are a Politician as part of your life's attitude Lie , Cheat and Steel you can do pretty good in Commyfornia. If you try to be honest and hard working it bites you in the ARRs if you are not connected.
Some people (me) are tired of the heavy air that hold you down in Commyfornia and strive to be in a place that has lighter air so that you can breath and live instead of just survive . Unfortunately the Libtards have moved out and took their Screwed up control believes with them. A Libtard will always be a libtard they will never change and a Conservative will always be a Conservative. I was lucky to find a Conservative Community willing to fight for their freedoms very strongly up in Arizona. Commyfornia is lost to the Dark side Politically in the big city's and it is the big city's that control the State.
Agreeing doesn't change the fact that California can't be the best place to be and you wouldn't live there.
Get real and understand, California is ruined and a ruined state is far from the best state...SHEESH!
10 out of 10 (literally) of the most recent homes that have sold in my subdivision have been sold to California transplants.
They act like it too.
The trespassers who cut down my fence and ran their jacked up Bro truck across my cabin property to retrieve the elk they poached (they were only out of their unit by about 8 miles and the season was closed) were from Tahoe. The bigger one, when I told him to get the fug off my property had the balls to tell me that I was "Coming at him kinda hard" and bow up on me. Stupid fug. Their entitlement mentality was unreal. My oldest child was with me and that was likely the only thing that saved those idiots.
The reputation they have has been well earned.
I've met a few... You sir are a fuqking A hole. GFY and stick you lousy ammo where you'll never forget it. Hope this exceeds your expectations you fuqking mouth breathing inbreed
Grizz's conduct provides the perfect example of the California entitlement mentality that is so prevalent in some. That said, he truly is an embarrassment to the decent people of the state.
He threw a hissy fit/tantrum because I refused to sell ammo to him or put my livelihood at risk, by conducting business in a state that actively and maliciously goes after people in the ammo/firearms industry. His own governor had just signed legislation making it easier to go after gun and ammo manufacturers. But Grizz says that I am part of the problem because I won't risk everything I own, just to do sales in California.
The truly unfortunate part is that there are decent people in California who don't act like this, who are quietly going about their lives. But they go unnoticed because of all the people like Grizz who behave like they do, and the twits from Tahoe who trespass and poach, and the dipsticks who move in and try to turn quiet small western towns into exactly what they escaped from.
This was his classy response to RIO7" Awe go butt fuqk your mother rio "
Bold talk from behind a screen....
As one of our Campfire members has in his sig line, Conduct is best proof of Character.
I don't need to say anything bad about GRIZZ
The conduct of GRIZZ tells everything a person would ever need to know.
Couldn't agree more MS. And I am in Cali. See some of you folks next week[Birch Crk area]. Promise I won't fugk nothin' up.
Just sold my house in East TN to a couple from Cali......Gotta say I was profiling them when I dreading meeting them for the first time but they are 2 of the nicest people you could meet. They were leaving Cali for all the right reasons I had always heard about the place. There beliefs will fit right in at Tennessee.
In the spirit of fair play from now on I will blindly hate everyone from Texas, Montana, and uh...Nebraska.
This thread is stupid.
Good I'll make you a deal, you stay out of TX and I will stay out of CA. The thread isnt stupid, people from CA screwing up other states is what is stupid
In the spirit of fair play from now on I will blindly hate everyone from Texas, Montana, and uh...Nebraska.
This thread is stupid.
living right on the border, and what I see coming up I 5 a lot of the times, I can see where CA's reputation proceeds them...
however, I have preached on the campfire for a long time, that if those complainers and haters of Californians ever look at a map on line, of the counties in California voted, they will find most of the state geographically votes Republican. Its mainly the Bay Area, L.A. basin and Sacramento that vote DemocRAT. Geographically they make up a small portion of the state.. BUT population wise, that is where the big numbers are.
Just like Oregon, we have Potlandia, and then THE REST OF US. One city makes up what people think the whole state is like the urban looney toons. California is no different. And Urban CA, frustrates the NON democRAT voting areas ( the rest of the state) just as much as anyone else.
I'm not originally from the West Coast, I am from the East Coast. I've seen the same thing happening back east. I'm from Virginia, it certainly isn't the state I left to go to college from. Up around DC, they are all leftists.. and then you have Richmond, and down toward VA Beach. Virginia has 99 counties in it.. about 6 of them carry the entire state based on population. California is no more ridiculous than my home state of Virginia.
I go back to any southern state I knew growing up.. they are certainly not the same places I knew 50 years ago.
in the 2016 election, Trump won despite DemocRAT election fraud. But the results were still very close. Hillary carried 108 urban counties nationwide, Trump carried the other 3000 counties in the country. But it is hard to show anywhere in the country, that urban democRATS don't carry a lot of clout, by carrying the urban counties....
compare Texas to California, and the way our political system is set up, there is not too much difference in both states politically. The democRATS want us to abolish the Electorial College. I say let them. Convert to a system, that each county regardless of population, gets one vote. DemocRATS would NEVER carry a State EVER in this nation.
Our election system worked fine in 1787, but now it actually hurts conservatives, and benefits leftists. A good example of how Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and earlier writers of the communist manifestos wrote about use a free nation's system against them. That is exactly what the DNCC has been doing for decades in this country. And they will continue to do so, until conservatives change it to take that opportunity away from them.
The average non urban voter isn't much different from another where ever you go in this nation.
This thread IS kind of dumb,l when we have NON urban Californians getting lambasted by non Urban folks from Texas or Montana, or anywhere else.
If this nation stops the looney toon welfare systems also, and put people back to work, and let them support themselves, vs having working citizens support them via government administered welfare systems, that allow the left to get away with welfare fraud ( people collecting under multiple identifies), all of this political conflict would become a thing of the past. and we would save our nation from its leftist ran decline...
meanwhile threads like this, show exactly how the left is dividing and conquering the rest of us... Quit letting them do that people...
It is kinda funny how we hate all Californians.....but give all the liberal/leftist white church goers a free pass.
But but but....there's no liberals go to my church!
Jim; Good morning to you my cyber friend, I trust that you and your wonderful family are fine as frog's hair on this bright and still October morning.
One of the very many things I struggle with Jim, as a servant who is very, VERY human, is that if I read the manual correctly I'm called to love my fellow man, despite the fact that my natural proclivity isn't even close to liking them.
When I was on one of the church boards, another board member who was from a profession which is typically populated by those left of center, as he was, often remarked how "refreshing" and "surprising" he found my comments and viewpoints. Frankly Jim in whatever cosmic cocoon he'd existed in previously, he'd either not encountered or possibly listened to folks from my side of the spectrum.
There absolutely were moments when the irony was pretty heavy Jim, for instance when the nice lady with all the Green Peace and "Ban Leghold Traps" bumper stickers parked beside the local trapper's truck.
It's a struggle for sure for some of us, that's the honest truth.
Regardless sir, all the best to you all and good luck on your hunts.
I've met and know a ton of folks from CA. They're a mix just like anywhere. Once you get outside of the major metro areas, the good people far outnumber the whackos. It's really sad that the whackos are in charge and have been since Reagan. Come to think of it, that was about the time they instituted mail in voting and never again had conservatives or moderates in charge. Mmmmmm.
CA is far and away the best state in the nation. Close access to every different type of activity (outdoor and otherwise), close access to every different type of ecosystem. Within a couple hours one can be in a desert, on top of mountains (real ones), out to sea, up a river, down a river, at a world class bass fishing lake, etc., etc.
I would not choose to live there just because of what's happened in the last few decades with the people who make the decisions.
If Mrs. Geno gets some kind of insane offer from one of their tier one research unis, I'll follow her there and support her of course but that's the only way I could see myself being a CA resident. I keep my fingers crossed that one of the FL ones make her that offer, but they're hard to come by. More likely, we'll be on the east coast or a flyover state for a couple years and then back to FL or TX somewhere near the coast.
It canât be both ways. California is a nightmare and they are leaving California as fast as they moved there in the 60âs.
California with all itâs virtue, is still a disasterâŠ
It is both ways. The land and waters are the best and the people in control are the worst. The concept is simple when boiled down to it's basest points.
I have to agree I have lived here for over 30 years and I have watched this State Change. I know it was changing before I moved here but it has changed dramatically since I have been here I have always hung out with the Conservatives I can not take a Libtard longer than about 5 minutes. The Area I live in is Conservative for the most part and the Libtards keep their mouth shut or get verbally beat up about their crap. There is a Line between the Great things here in Commyfornia and the Political aspects of the State. One has to decide for them selves if they want to enjoy the positive things and put up with the BS. I have always been a fighter (not physically) but there comes a time in some peoples lives where the fight is just to old to do anymore.
The Pace I have Property in Arizona is a majority of Conservative Commyfornia Transplants. And the Conservatives up there are Fanatic about keeping our Area Free from the Libtard attitude no matter where they come from.
It is the Wild West up there and the Conservatives are winning the Battles. We as a Community have stayed strong and have had the Libtard Control Freaks leave our Community one by one. It has been an up hill battle and people have even been shot at. I have been threatened many times but we have hope and support for other owners in our Community unlike Commyfornia where the only ones that will help with anything is your immediate neighbors if they will even help. And most of them when the going gets tough they are no where to be found.
I have a Friend up in Arizona that told me that the Mountain will decide if it lets you stay or makes you leave. Commyfornia will do everything in it power to make you stay and it is very hard for some people to take the hooks out and get out when they want to get out. I am having a Hard time financially leaving this State and I am Tired of all of the Politics holding me here. If you are a Politician as part of your life's attitude Lie , Cheat and Steel you can do pretty good in Commyfornia. If you try to be honest and hard working it bites you in the ARRs if you are not connected.
Some people (me) are tired of the heavy air that hold you down in Commyfornia and strive to be in a place that has lighter air so that you can breath and live instead of just survive . Unfortunately the Libtards have moved out and took their Screwed up control believes with them. A Libtard will always be a libtard they will never change and a Conservative will always be a Conservative. I was lucky to find a Conservative Community willing to fight for their freedoms very strongly up in Arizona. Commyfornia is lost to the Dark side Politically in the big city's and it is the big city's that control the State.
Agreeing doesn't change the fact that California can't be the best place to be and you wouldn't live there.
Get real and understand, California is ruined and a ruined state is far from the best state...SHEESH!
Just because you can't understand a simple concept doesn't make it wrong.
The entire point of my post flew right over your head.
No I fully grasp your idiotic point. Nobody said anything about hating someone except you. The entire point of this thread isnt hatred it is the dislike of people from CA destroying other states. CA has allowed itself to become a LIB cesspool and the people of CA should fix it before screwing up some other state. I grew up in CO and saw first hand how quickly transplants from CA can destroy a state
Libtards from anywhere can destroy a geographic location by taking over and outvoting the moderates and conservatives. CA has a lot of them but the other people from CA aren't able to hunt them yet so "fixing" it is currently out of the question.
The entire point of my post flew right over your head.
No I fully grasp your idiotic point. Nobody said anything about hating someone except you. The entire point of this thread isnt hatred it is the dislike of people from CA destroying other states. CA has allowed itself to become a LIB cesspool and the people of CA should fix it before screwing up some other state. I grew up in CO and saw first hand how quickly transplants from CA can destroy a state
And I grew up in California and seen how transplants did the same. Hell, even now we got some neighbors from outta state thinking everything should suit THEM perfectly. Trying to disrupt our way of life because they donât do what we do. Fugg em. Wrong part of California to be expecting that.
Itâs not a âCaliforniaâ problem. Itâs a people problem and itâs every where, chief.
Almost one I. Eight people in this country reside in california...1/8=.125=12.5ÙȘ
It's almost impossible not to meet a Californian...unless you did and didn't know it.
Ymmv
Is that some Q numerology going on there?
Edited for clarity and somer grammar but no. Just simple numbers.
Regards
Darn
I was hoping for some new insight into the world's problems.
And I hope all is well in Cubed land.
All good here. Heading to AZ for 2 cow elk tags, coues tag (in my favorite unit) and who knows what else.
Up here it is cooling off and the trees are turning. Fall is here.
Regards
Excellent. Your Coues tag or you helping friends again.
Have fun.
Getting ready to put in for bonus points only for Spring hunts. $7 a gallon gas won't allow for a javelina trip.
Think I'll actually put in for sheep next fall though
Friends parents have the elk tags and a youth hunter has the Coues tag.
Put in for sheep! Let me know what unit!
Probably the 15 Units near Willow Beach. I know the area some.
Will depend on what my outfitter buddy in Kingman says. And how many tags they decide to issue for the units. For all I know, those herds might still be way down.
I did 41 years there. Met a Mainer - got married. Now happily a Vermonter of 9 years. Not too many Californians look to New England but the mountain states are swimming in more recent new residents it seems. I rarely meet any other Californians here or NH or ME as we travel.
We cut all ties to CA & after having seen & done all the state has to offer & donât to plans to return or even visit. We were a NorCal farming family. Weâve all left the state now.
Weâre not all bad, most just donât see a future there as things started to go downhill population & tax wise 10+ years ago.
I will say that my agriculture background and general hard working positive attitude helped me adjust to rural VT life easier than if I were from a city. I guess small town values carry well almost everywhere.
Almost one I. Eight people in this country reside in california...1/8=.125=12.5ÙȘ
It's almost impossible not to meet a Californian...unless you did and didn't know it.
Ymmv
Is that some Q numerology going on there?
Edited for clarity and somer grammar but no. Just simple numbers.
Regards
Darn
I was hoping for some new insight into the world's problems.
And I hope all is well in Cubed land.
All good here. Heading to AZ for 2 cow elk tags, coues tag (in my favorite unit) and who knows what else.
Up here it is cooling off and the trees are turning. Fall is here.
Regards
Excellent. Your Coues tag or you helping friends again.
Have fun.
Getting ready to put in for bonus points only for Spring hunts. $7 a gallon gas won't allow for a javelina trip.
Think I'll actually put in for sheep next fall though
Friends parents have the elk tags and a youth hunter has the Coues tag.
Put in for sheep! Let me know what unit!
Probably the 15 Units near Willow Beach. I know the area some.
Will depend on what my outfitter buddy in Kingman says. And how many tags they decide to issue for the units. For all I know, those herds might still be way down.
Copy...I usually put in for the tag along the South Rim...more of a backpacking type hunt and success is difficult.
I will say that my agriculture background and general hard working positive attitude helped me adjust to rural VT life easier than if I were from a city. I guess small town values carry well almost everywhere.
Iâve found to be true everywhere Iâve lived myself as well
GRIZZ's cowardly and low class conduct speaks for itself.
The more he talks, and shows his true character, the more I wonder if decent people are not moving out of California just to get away from ones like him.
I'm thinking you wrote this for yourself...Feel better hero? You like to throw big words around like character when the reality is you're no better than anyone else on here. Take a few midol and your hurt pussy swelling might pass ...
GRIZZ's cowardly and low class conduct speaks for itself.
The more he talks, and shows his true character, the more I wonder if decent people are not moving out of California just to get away from ones like him.
I'm thinking you wrote this for yourself...Feel better hero? You like to throw big words around like character when the reality is you're no better than anyone else on here. Take a few midol and your hurt pussy swelling might pass ...
You are the reason Californians are thought so poorly of....
GRIZZ's cowardly and low class conduct speaks for itself.
The more he talks, and shows his true character, the more I wonder if decent people are not moving out of California just to get away from ones like him.
I'm thinking you wrote this for yourself...Feel better hero? You like to throw big words around like character when the reality is you're no better than anyone else on here. Take a few midol and your hurt pussy swelling might pass ...
You are the reason Californians are thought so poorly of....
Give it a rest snowflake... Sanctimonious ass hat. You're Hollywood is showing. Laffin
The entire point of my post flew right over your head.
MAC is not, never has been, and never will be the sharpest knife in the drawer. He and GRIZZ are good examples of the gene pool being polluted.
And you are one of the 30,000,000 idiots in CA. There may be 4 or 5 million good folks but you dont make that cut
As expected, you validate my point. Keep up the good work.
And you proved mine. Enjoy your cesspool and your DEM masters. Choke on your EVs your Gov is going to force you to drive and enjoy poverty as that place goes bankrupt. You may not be the dumbest SOB in CA but you're in the top 3.
GRIZZ's cowardly and low class conduct speaks for itself.
The more he talks, and shows his true character, the more I wonder if decent people are not moving out of California just to get away from ones like him.
I'm thinking you wrote this for yourself...Feel better hero? You like to throw big words around like character when the reality is you're no better than anyone else on here. Take a few midol and your hurt pussy swelling might pass ...
You are the reason Californians are thought so poorly of....
Give it a rest snowflake... Sanctimonious ass hat. You're Hollywood is showing. Laffin
I have been called a lot of things.... but snowflake? c'mon you can do better than that... hahahahhahahahahahahahah
GRIZZ's cowardly and low class conduct speaks for itself.
The more he talks, and shows his true character, the more I wonder if decent people are not moving out of California just to get away from ones like him.
I'm thinking you wrote this for yourself...Feel better hero? You like to throw big words around like character when the reality is you're no better than anyone else on here. Take a few midol and your hurt pussy swelling might pass ...
You are the reason Californians are thought so poorly of....
Give it a rest snowflake... Sanctimonious ass hat. You're Hollywood is showing. Laffin
I have been called a lot of things.... but snowflake? c'mon you can do better than that... hahahahhahahahahahahahah
Cupcake? Now you're just bloviating and blubbering. You run out of clever come backs? Hee hee he, har har har.
GRIZZ's cowardly and low class conduct speaks for itself.
The more he talks, and shows his true character, the more I wonder if decent people are not moving out of California just to get away from ones like him.
I'm thinking you wrote this for yourself...Feel better hero? You like to throw big words around like character when the reality is you're no better than anyone else on here. Take a few midol and your hurt pussy swelling might pass ...
You are the reason Californians are thought so poorly of....
Give it a rest snowflake... Sanctimonious ass hat. You're Hollywood is showing. Laffin
I have been called a lot of things.... but snowflake? c'mon you can do better than that... hahahahhahahahahahahahah
Cupcake? Now you're just bloviating and blubbering. You run out of clever come backs? Hee hee he, har har har.
I am not the disgruntled miserable fool stuck in California.... ha
I had business to attend to at my other place. Made sure fences and gates were good to go.
Little dusting of snow on the 12K foot peak across the way.
Quite a nice day in the high country.
The highest peak in the lower 48 is in California. I had a Wyoming Game Warden tell me once that he was surprised that California hunters did so well in Wyoming.
You don't see Coyote contests in California anymore. I grew up in a better era. Again, I'm probably not your typical Californian..đ
Yeah you do. Their just on the down low.
I've participated in those in Adin California.
Been participaiting in these contest hunts since the late 70's. The CA Dept of Fish and Wildlife, they removed the word 'Game' because it infer the killing of animals, you can't have that right! They banned Coyote contest or at least think they did a few years back. We all chose to ignore it. I personally chose to ignore the lead ammo ban for hunting. The animals I kill are intitled to a quick death. The PC CA Fish and Wildlife Dept can pound sand There's laws and then there's blatant stupidity and BS. Enough
Took this one of Whitney on one of my fishing trips to the Eastern Sierra's Owens Valley.
GRIZZ's cowardly and low class conduct speaks for itself.
The more he talks, and shows his true character, the more I wonder if decent people are not moving out of California just to get away from ones like him.
I'm thinking you wrote this for yourself...Feel better hero? You like to throw big words around like character when the reality is you're no better than anyone else on here. Take a few midol and your hurt pussy swelling might pass ...
You are the reason Californians are thought so poorly of....
Give it a rest snowflake... Sanctimonious ass hat. You're Hollywood is showing. Laffin
I have been called a lot of things.... but snowflake? c'mon you can do better than that... hahahahhahahahahahahahah
Cupcake? Now you're just bloviating and blubbering. You run out of clever come backs? Hee hee he, har har har.
I am not the disgruntled miserable fool stuck in California.... ha
Look! He spelled 'disgruntled' and he spelled all by himself. Hardy har har...
You don't see Coyote contests in California anymore. I grew up in a better era. Again, I'm probably not your typical Californian..đ
Yeah you do. Their just on the down low.
I've participated in those in Adin California.
Been participaiting in these contest hunts since the late 70's. The CA Dept of Fish and Wildlife, they removed the word 'Game' because it infer the killing of animals, you can't have that right! They banned Coyote contest or at least think they did a few years back. We all chose to ignore it. I personally chose to ignore the lead ammo ban for hunting. The animals I kill are intitled to a quick death. The PC CA Fish and Wildlife Dept can pound sand There's laws and then there's blatant stupidity and BS. Enough
Took this one of Whitney on one of my fishing trips to the Eastern Sierra's Owens Valley.
still makes you no less of a douchebag. Pull that s*** you been talking on here to people in person and you won't be around long..
You don't see Coyote contests in California anymore. I grew up in a better era. Again, I'm probably not your typical Californian..đ
Yeah you do. Their just on the down low.
I've participated in those in Adin California.
Been participaiting in these contest hunts since the late 70's. The CA Dept of Fish and Wildlife, they removed the word 'Game' because it infer the killing of animals, you can't have that right! They banned Coyote contest or at least think they did a few years back. We all chose to ignore it. I personally chose to ignore the lead ammo ban for hunting. The animals I kill are intitled to a quick death. The PC CA Fish and Wildlife Dept can pound sand There's laws and then there's blatant stupidity and BS. Enough
Took this one of Whitney on one of my fishing trips to the Eastern Sierra's Owens Valley.
still makes you no less of a douchebag. Pull that s*** you been talking on here to people in person and you won't be around long..
You don't see Coyote contests in California anymore. I grew up in a better era. Again, I'm probably not your typical Californian..đ
Yeah you do. Their just on the down low.
I've participated in those in Adin California.
Been participaiting in these contest hunts since the late 70's. The CA Dept of Fish and Wildlife, they removed the word 'Game' because it infer the killing of animals, you can't have that right! They banned Coyote contest or at least think they did a few years back. We all chose to ignore it. I personally chose to ignore the lead ammo ban for hunting. The animals I kill are intitled to a quick death. The PC CA Fish and Wildlife Dept can pound sand There's laws and then there's blatant stupidity and BS. Enough
Took this one of Whitney on one of my fishing trips to the Eastern Sierra's Owens Valley.
still makes you no less of a douchebag. Pull that s*** you been talking on here to people in person and you won't be around long..
Wow, another bad ass! Sal must be shakin' in his boots. You and your little pals don't realize what losers you are. Seriously.
[quote=jackmountain]Love how we bitch about Mexicans that donât stay where theyâre at and try to fix their home, then bitch that Californians donât leave and move somewhere âbetterâ.
A lot of time the politics dont really directly effect the people that live in certain areas. I donât think a lot of California pays stupid laws much mind.
Never been, but thereâs a lot more natural beauty than there is urban pockets of scheit.
Washington and Oregon same thing. Get out of the cities into the real part of the states.[/quote
You don't see Coyote contests in California anymore. I grew up in a better era. Again, I'm probably not your typical Californian..đ
Yeah you do. Their just on the down low.
I've participated in those in Adin California.
Been participaiting in these contest hunts since the late 70's. The CA Dept of Fish and Wildlife, they removed the word 'Game' because it infer the killing of animals, you can't have that right! They banned Coyote contest or at least think they did a few years back. We all chose to ignore it. I personally chose to ignore the lead ammo ban for hunting. The animals I kill are intitled to a quick death. The PC CA Fish and Wildlife Dept can pound sand There's laws and then there's blatant stupidity and BS. Enough
Took this one of Whitney on one of my fishing trips to the Eastern Sierra's Owens Valley.
still makes you no less of a douchebag. Pull that s*** you been talking on here to people in person and you won't be around long..
Wow, another bad ass! Sal must be shakin' in his boots. You and your little pals don't realize what losers you are. Seriously.
Nothing against Sal he seems like a pretty good person. Grizz on the other hand and your self some what .. Have seen people that same attitude move here and they're usually moved out and gone within a couple years because they just don't fit in and nobody likes them. There's a few that make it adjust and are good people but with the attitude shown it's quite easy to tell the difference..
You don't see Coyote contests in California anymore. I grew up in a better era. Again, I'm probably not your typical Californian..đ
Yeah you do. Their just on the down low.
I've participated in those in Adin California.
Been participaiting in these contest hunts since the late 70's. The CA Dept of Fish and Wildlife, they removed the word 'Game' because it infer the killing of animals, you can't have that right! They banned Coyote contest or at least think they did a few years back. We all chose to ignore it. I personally chose to ignore the lead ammo ban for hunting. The animals I kill are intitled to a quick death. The PC CA Fish and Wildlife Dept can pound sand There's laws and then there's blatant stupidity and BS. Enough
Took this one of Whitney on one of my fishing trips to the Eastern Sierra's Owens Valley.
still makes you no less of a douchebag. Pull that s*** you been talking on here to people in person and you won't be around long..
Wow, another bad ass! Sal must be shakin' in his boots. You and your little pals don't realize what losers you are. Seriously.
Nothing against Sal he seems like a pretty good person. Grizz on the other hand and your self some what .. Have seen people that same attitude move here and they're usually moved out and gone within a couple years because they just don't fit in and nobody likes them. There's a few that make it adjust and are good people but with the attitude shown it's quite easy to tell the difference..
No worries... I'd stay in CA before I'd even consider relocaiting anywhere near MO MR bad ass. LOL
At his age, I'm sure he picks his toenails to Jefferson Airplane.
What of it?
If Geno wears patchouli oil, the invite is off....
That scheidt nearly makes me gag.
Most perfumes do though, wife can't even wear her favorite any more.
But patooie oil..............Nah..............would have to be a really hot hippie chick wearing it for me to even think about doing the deed. Then again, I'd probably hand her a bar of soap and point to the shower.
At his age, I'm sure he picks his toenails to Jefferson Airplane.
What of it?
If Geno wears patchouli oil, the invite is off....
That scheidt nearly makes me gag.
Most perfumes do though, wife can't even wear her favorite any more.
But patooie oil..............Nah..............would have to be a really hot hippie chick wearing it for me to even think about doing the deed. Then again, I'd probably hand her a bar of soap and point to the shower.
A man of taste and wisdom..... oh wait... I take that back... don't want to give Hig anymore ammo for his homo fantasies...
Had a Honda 750 four when I was a kid in the 70's. If I did have a big bike these days I wouldn't have ape hangers. Seems they would make the bike hard to control in an emergency.
Had a Honda 750 four when I was a kid in the 70's. If I did have a big bike these days I wouldn't have ape hangers. Seems they would make the bike hard to control in an emergency.
Hey Grizz... remember our dust up about conetrol scopes mounts a few months back? you accused me of being unable to make anything... remember?
Had a Honda 750 four when I was a kid in the 70's. If I did have a big bike these days I wouldn't have ape hangers. Seems they would make the bike hard to control in an emergency.
Hey Grizz... remember our dust up about conetrol scopes mounts a few months back? you accused me of being unable to make anything... remember?
Had a Honda 750 four when I was a kid in the 70's. If I did have a big bike these days I wouldn't have ape hangers. Seems they would make the bike hard to control in an emergency.
Hey Grizz... remember our dust up about conetrol scopes mounts a few months back? you accused me of being unable to make anything... remember?
Had a Honda 750 four when I was a kid in the 70's. If I did have a big bike these days I wouldn't have ape hangers. Seems they would make the bike hard to control in an emergency.
Hey Grizz... remember our dust up about conetrol scopes mounts a few months back? you accused me of being unable to make anything... remember?
Had a Honda 750 four when I was a kid in the 70's. If I did have a big bike these days I wouldn't have ape hangers. Seems they would make the bike hard to control in an emergency.
Hey Grizz... remember our dust up about conetrol scopes mounts a few months back? you accused me of being unable to make anything... remember?
Yeah. You really showed me...
I know.... crow is a bitter taste
Yep...You we're in your glory.
It is fun to prove someone sooo wrong.... good times
Had a Honda 750 four when I was a kid in the 70's. If I did have a big bike these days I wouldn't have ape hangers. Seems they would make the bike hard to control in an emergency.
Hey Grizz... remember our dust up about conetrol scopes mounts a few months back? you accused me of being unable to make anything... remember?
Yeah. You really showed me...
I know.... crow is a bitter taste
Yep...You we're in your glory.
It is fun to prove someone sooo wrong.... good times
I donât care where someone is from, I only care how they are. When our neighborâs house was for sale and we heard that it was bought by a retired couple straight outta Cali we were thinking âthere goes the neighborhoodâ. Now we drink beer, shoot and laugh together, theyâre conservatives thankfully and great neighbors as well as their extended family. We donât even think of them as Californians because they seem totally normal and human-like đ
Did the Governor know? Surprised they didn't try to stop them at the Columbia.
No kidding huh? They think weâre conservative compared to California plus itâs cheaper, which blows my mind.
I guess if you donât know how great a place used to be once upon a time then you donât think youâre missing anything. If youâve had a taste of real freedom you wonât be satisfied until you re-establish it. I guess they found their place for them. It doesnât hurt that their children and grandchildren are close. We did luck out thoughâŠ.
I live 17 miles from California, I meet people from there all the time. The stereo typing of people is really comical. We shoot sqeeks in California each spring, the ranchers that let us hunt, are the salt of the earth. Young or old they believe in the American way, call them a Californian, in a malicious way, and they will tune up, an attitude real quick. Kinda of like calling a Texan a Mexican, the fight begins, even if the Texan is of mexican decent.
I live 17 miles from California, I meet people from there all the time. The stereo typing of people is really comical. We shoot sqeeks in California each spring, the ranchers that let us hunt, are the salt of the earth. Young or old they believe in the American way, call them a Californian, in a malicious way, and they will tune up, an attitude real quick. Kinda of like calling a Texan a Mexican, the fight begins, even if the Texan is of mexican decent.
Absolutely. I have shot a million squirrels on the Carey and Delbondio ranches.