Ukrainian army is equipped with a bunch of them.. why you think burnsie poo wants this war to drag on. He gives two chits about the Ukrainians all he sees is dollah signs.
Ukrainian army is equipped with a bunch of them.. why you think burnsie poo wants this war to drag on. He gives two chits about the Ukrainians all he sees is dollah signs.
Like to see one torture tested. Sand , mud, water, ice, field expedient stoppage reductions, just general joe proofing schit... Run the schit outta one back to back mag dumps for about 3 basic loads of 660 rds. Bet that prom queen rifle would puke.... 🤣🤣🤣
Like to see one torture tested. Sand , mud, water, ice, field expedient stoppage reductions, just general joe proofing schit... Run the schit outta one back to back mag dumps for about 3 basic loads of 660 rds. Bet that prom queen rifle would puke.... 🤣🤣🤣
Like to see one torture tested. Sand , mud, water, ice, field expedient stoppage reductions, just general joe proofing schit... Run the schit outta one back to back mag dumps for about 3 basic loads of 660 rds. Bet that prom queen rifle would puke.... 🤣🤣🤣
From the pics, it looks like the gun is used as a one shot hunting rifle, so I'm not sure a combat test is in order for that type of gun.
Like to see one torture tested. Sand , mud, water, ice, field expedient stoppage reductions, just general joe proofing schit... Run the schit outta one back to back mag dumps for about 3 basic loads of 660 rds. Bet that prom queen rifle would puke.... 🤣🤣🤣
Better men than you love Wyoming Arms.
Just Sayin.
Oh scheit! John had to go for broke and pull his “Kyle Lamb card”! If he’s such a BFF get him to register and defend you’re stupid ass.
Rene, I did that back to back mag dump of 660 with an old Bushmaster AR. It ran flawlessly the entire time. Needed a serious cleaning after, but fired the entire 22 magazines without a stoppage.
A wyo AR ought to have a proportionally better reliability equal to the price difference. Oughta shoot sub quarter MOA for 5k rounds fired as fast as the shooter can regain sight picture. Belay that last, shooter should never lose sight picture. Whaddyathink?
Rene, I did that back to back mag dump of 660 with an old Bushmaster AR. It ran flawlessly the entire time. Needed a serious cleaning after, but fired the entire 22 magazines without a stoppage.
A wyo AR ought to have a proportionally better reliability equal to the price difference. Oughta shoot sub quarter MOA for 5k rounds fired as fast as the shooter can regain sight picture. Belay that last, shooter should never lose sight picture. Whaddyathink?
If they ever run a sale at CDNN on the close outs for $499 I “might” give one a shot. But probably not.
Like to see one torture tested. Sand , mud, water, ice, field expedient stoppage reductions, just general joe proofing schit... Run the schit outta one back to back mag dumps for about 3 basic loads of 660 rds. Bet that prom queen rifle would puke.... 🤣🤣🤣
Better men than you love Wyoming Arms.
Just Sayin.
I'm saying your rifle ain't a wpn.. How you like them apples....
I bet Johnny,s barrel would go limp dick before the gas tube blows. I bet about rd 250 to 300 it would lose headspace and have out of battery detonations.
Equals not a wpn. Or something to trust you or your buddy's life on. Just a prom queen hunting rifle.
And your unscrupulous azz is selling these to a war zone???
Did you develop the 6.5 Creedmoor too John? Did you actually make one single part on that rifle with your own hands?
Yeah I did help on the 6.5 CM.
Here is the first big game and coyote taken with the round with a rifle I built.
Th first game animal ever taken with the 6.5 creedmoor? Careful now….
Ain't that the company you ran into the ground Johnny??? And had to go to court for concerning tax issues and schit. Didnt the Court rule in favor of 3 other guys in that matter or some schit.
Former bussiness partners??? Former Friends by any chance???
I bet Johnny,s barrel would go limp dick before the gas tube blows. I bet about rd 250 to 300 it would lose headspace and have out of battery detonations.
Equals not a wpn. Or something to trust you or your buddy's life on. Just a prom queen hunting rifle.
And your unscrupulous azz is selling these to a war zone???
Rene, I did that back to back mag dump of 660 with an old Bushmaster AR. It ran flawlessly the entire time. Needed a serious cleaning after, but fired the entire 22 magazines without a stoppage.
A wyo AR ought to have a proportionally better reliability equal to the price difference. Oughta shoot sub quarter MOA for 5k rounds fired as fast as the shooter can regain sight picture. Belay that last, shooter should never lose sight picture. Whaddyathink?
I could run about 6 or 700 rds thru a colt m4 before it would puke. And need about 5 or 10 mins of very basic cleaning to get it running again. Cleaning was after hosing it down with clp and working the bolt back and forth to loosen up carbon. Most of it was bolt shoulder cleaning and carrier recess are for bolt shoulder. Build up in those areas cause alot of failure to chamber, failure to extract, and double feed and bolt overides Could run about 400 550 thru a A2 A1 about 400
I bet Johnny,s barrel would go limp dick before the gas tube blows. I bet about rd 250 to 300 it would lose headspace and have out of battery detonations.
Equals not a wpn. Or something to trust you or your buddy's life on. Just a prom queen hunting rifle.
And your unscrupulous azz is selling these to a war zone???
Better men than you. C Squadron and A Squadron.
Like clockwork, Johnny posts pics of Kyle when he can’t stand on his own accomplishments. Go put together a Lego set with a Wyoming Arms decal on it and try to make enough money to cover you back taxes you dumbfugk.
I bet Johnny,s barrel would go limp dick before the gas tube blows. I bet about rd 250 to 300 it would lose headspace and have out of battery detonations.
Equals not a wpn. Or something to trust you or your buddy's life on. Just a prom queen hunting rifle.
And your unscrupulous azz is selling these to a war zone???
Better men than you. C Squadron and A Squadron.
And....
NGAF except you...
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You got a torture test vid of that rifle of yours to post up. Or can than tinkerbell hunting rifle even survive any torture test. Can a 18 yr old take it into a war zone and fight with it???
A smart 10 yr with common sense can assemble a AR platform with picto diagrams and specs given the proper hands on instruction, mentoring, and assembly tools. And be running on his own in 2 weeks and pass QC evals....
We like the current picture of YOU that has been floating around mo better. That pic gets the story up to date on you in sooooooooo many ways... Did you chip your front bucky beavers in that pic falling down drunk or something??? It don't look like your normal Mr. Ed mouth breather grin in those older pics.
But then again nothing in that pic looks like anything in your older pics in how you looked. You don't even look like Sienfield anymore Johnny. What are you 58 maybe 60 yrs old?? You look 75 in that latest pic. Can you take your hat off for us and show us that curly from the 3 stooges hair line???
You just look like a strung the fugg out alcoholic in that latest pic.
Just flat out say your rig is hunting rifle and not a wpn Johnny.
Are you really selling those to a war zone Johnny??? I hope that is just bullschit floating around on here honestly.
I dont know how you could look at yourself in a mirror if you are shipping and selling those in a war zone. Even I don't think you would stoop to that....giving you the benefit of the doubt on that...
Gotta give credit where credit is due. That was a classic set up last night Kingston. You had soooo many ways you could have played that. All it took was a little patience like you said in the text well beforehand.
The Goof walked right into it and didnt have a clue he set his ownself up. Again......... Like a drunk papa smurf all cheery and happy doing his little skippy step smurf walk all care free and happy and schit posting on 24... Then boom outta the blue!!!
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
Wow.
Please post a cite of any bankruptsy.
It's basically exactly libel to claim such things and IP Addys are logged.
Sure hope you can back your lies or don't have any assets I might love to grab from a suit.
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
Wow.
Please post a cite of any bankruptsy.
It's basically exactly libel to claim such things and IP Addys are logged.
Sure hope you can back your lies or don't have any assets I might love to grab from a suit.
Good luck.
I’m sorry and glad that you think you are winning.
Jeezus Christ, is it a requirement to have a purple tavern tan face to own one of these firearms, does it just happen after you find out you were duped after you bought one, or do you just have to be a fuggin' chronic drunk to buy one? Fugg sake, a lot of these guys need to lay off the booze...
Even as dumb and whiney as you have been you have not claimed bankruptsy on an open forum.
According to a check 79S might have some resources to grab for running his suck about things.
Lets see how this plays out.
Those guys on retainer gottta earn their pay.
Blah blah crying stop you give folks who served in the air force a bad name… last time you ran you cock holster couple of yours so called spec op buds told you shut it. But in true fashion you are running it again.. it’s not rocket science to see why you are all in on this Ukraine war. You are selling your overpriced ar’s to Ukraine bright side you can pay cash for your new liver..
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
Wow.
Please post a cite of any bankruptsy.
It's basically exactly libel to claim such things and IP Addys are logged.
Sure hope you can back your lies or don't have any assets I might love to grab from a suit.
Good luck.
Oh boy am I supposed to be scared? Here’s my info give it to your lawyers . Better call me tough guy lol..
Jim Lahey 1810 Center Creek Rd. Nome, Alaska 99762 (907) 443-2241
Johnny might have passed out on the terlet and bonked his head on the sink like Elvis ???
Wake up in the morning with his 54 inch waist sweat pants around his ankles, big ole knot on his noggin, empty Lord Calvert Canadian and nyquil bottle staring at him floor level when he opens up his eyes, and discover he needs to wipe his yuck butt from some 6hr dried up dookie smeared all his stuck together butt cheeks.
Then it's time for a vodka and Orange juice breakfest of champions for him.
Johnny might have passed out on the terlet and bonked his head on the sink like Elvis ???
Wake up in the morning with his 54 inch waist sweat pants around his ankles, big ole knot on his noggin, empty Lord Calvert Canadian and nyquil bottle staring at him floor level when he opens up his eyes, and discover he needs to wipe his yuck butt from some 6hr dried up dookie smeared all his stuck together butt cheeks.
Then it's time for a vodka and Orange juice breakfest of champions for him.
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You know he wakes up with shakes has to slam a shot of booze to calm his nerves..
The wyo arms rifles posted in the pics are atleast rifles. I noticed that the barrels are full length even canned. Seems like a lot of barrel whiners on the fire all lop theirs off so their gun won't be too heavy. This is the US last I knew Burns is entitled to sell his guns for whatever the market will bear.
The wyo arms rifles posted in the pics are atleast rifles. I noticed that the barrels are full length even canned. Seems like a lot of barrel whiners on the fire all lop theirs off so their gun won't be too heavy. This is the US last I knew Burns is entitled to sell his guns for whatever the market will bear.
Absolutely. I haven't seen the claim that he wasn't entitled to do so. Conversely, people that choose to ridicule him are entitled to do so.
I guess I'm not personally in the market for a hunting rifle two yards long and a yard tall, but a lot of really important people think its the way to go or at least give the impression it is.
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
Wow.
Please post a cite of any bankruptsy.
It's basically exactly libel to claim such things and IP Addys are logged.
Sure hope you can back your lies or don't have any assets I might love to grab from a suit.
Good luck.
Finally! The miss Lynn gambit. That's winning, right there.
I suspect at most, "involvement" may have meant a pre-production sample was sent to someplace he may have worked. But I'd love to hear if he has a more in-depth explanation.
For instance, before the .204 Ruger was public, Hornady/Ruger sent a friend of mine a few cases of ammunition and a couple Ruger 77 target model rifles to try out on prairie dogs under an NDA. He was given the opportunity because he was toward the top of sales for independent dealers and our hunting group had been taking lots of p'dog hunting pictures and videos way back in the early 2000s. The sales rep was in his shop where he constantly had video recorded hunts playing and thought it was noteworthy.
I guess I missed what sin Burns committed that has some folks fired up. Anyone selling their own brand of AR platform has customers who can buy or not buy. If they are great performers or a great value they succeed, if less than stellar on either parameter they fail.
Feel free to buy one & post an accurate review- post a video of failures to feed or fire to gain credibility. I will say I’m a little jealous of guys whose elk die on flat farm fields. Mine are almost always in steep thick crap & snowy muddy pack outs.
JB posts 15 pics with owners of his product and their success while yapping shih tzus growl
15 owners of his rifles? And you know this how? Numerous of those pictures show the exact same large frame 6.5 AR, Scope and Suppressor. Looks like most pics feature a loaner rifle to me and not actual customer owned rifles.
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
Wow.
Please post a cite of any bankruptsy.
It's basically exactly libel to claim such things and IP Addys are logged.
Sure hope you can back your lies or don't have any assets I might love to grab from a suit.
A silenced AR to Kill a tiny elk calf with milk on its lips? Lmao
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by renegade50
I bet Johnny,s barrel would go limp dick before the gas tube blows. I bet about rd 250 to 300 it would lose headspace and have out of battery detonations.
Equals not a wpn. Or something to trust you or your buddy's life on. Just a prom queen hunting rifle.
And your unscrupulous azz is selling these to a war zone???
I really don't understand all the hate in this thread - did he date Hillary Clinton or something? Did you guys have some cuddle relationship that went South?
It all looks very personal from the outside looking in. Again, I don't have any skin in the game but threads like this one and and of Bigstick's comments need Cliff notes to decipher...
I really don't understand all the hate in this thread.....
I don't understand most of the behind the scenes stuff that goes on here but I find I'm OK with that.
Burns likes to stir the pot and try to get under people's skin. I don't understand that either, seems like a curious business practice on a forum with lots of potential customers..
I really don't understand all the hate in this thread.....
I don't understand most of the behind the scenes stuff that goes on here but I find I'm OK with that.
Burns likes to stir pot and try to get under people's skin. I don't understand that either, seems like a curious business practice on a forum with lots of potential customers..
Schitt gonna hit the fan when Johnny wakes the fuuuk up. Puts his bunny slippers on, wearing his daffy duck sleep shorts and Tazmainian devil sleep shirt. Then fires up his puter and checks this thread while sipping some vodka and OJ to get his day going.
Massive legal actions gonna happen. Bunch of us gonna get served papers soon. Big ole class action defamation law suit from intial info gathered from IP addy,s and schitt.
Did you develop the 6.5 Creedmoor too John? Did you actually make one single part on that rifle with your own hands?
Yeah I did help on the 6.5 CM.
Here is the first big game and coyote taken with the round with a rifle I built.
What did you do in development of the 6.5 Creedmoor? That video from 2016 really didn't outline anything.
This deserves an answer. I’ve just read every article I could find online about the cartridges development and so far his name has not been mentioned.
Hum a na Hum a na Hum a na.....
Not getting any connection from that vid per what Johnny posted. I don't get it. I do have hearing issues though. But I also watched it twice. Still kinda puzzled in the connections in what Johnny posted and how it ties into that clip. Anyone else confused about this also or is it just me???? 🤷♂️🤷♂️🙏
Only thing I get from it all is it is some vid from some company that used to exist.
Schitt gonna hit the fan when Johnny wakes the fuuuk up. Puts his bunny slippers on, wearing his daffy duck sleep shorts and Tazmainian devil sleep shirt. Then fires up his puter and checks this thread while sipping some vodka and OJ to get his day going.
Massive legal actions gonna happen. Bunch of us gonna get served papers soon. Big ole class action defamation law suit from intial info gathered from IP addy,s and schitt.
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That sounds really bad...
Maybe if we all pitch in and send him some Cheeto infused Häagen-Dazs... he might let us off the hook???
Or some self-help diet books by Rosie O'Donnell?
Or some Bill Cosby guidance on how to make new friends thru modern chemistry?
I have a Wizard of Oz video cassette I could send... it does have some skips.
It's almost professional foosball time. Ain't got time to poke the schitty end of a stick into some alcoholic never been.
Need to run up to Wally World and get some french onion dip for the fritos scoops khaneralla bought for me yesterday. Naturally Numbnuts forgot to buy dip for fuuuuking fritos scoops... Duh... Scoops.... Any dip for em zippy????? She probably been fuuuking Johnny and caught the stoopid from him. Gonna advoid her for about a week so I dont catch that schitt from her....
Schitt gonna hit the fan when Johnny wakes the fuuuk up. Puts his bunny slippers on, wearing his daffy duck sleep shorts and Tazmainian devil sleep shirt. Then fires up his puter and checks this thread while sipping some vodka and OJ to get his day going.
Massive legal actions gonna happen. Bunch of us gonna get served papers soon. Big ole class action defamation law suit from intial info gathered from IP addy,s and schitt.
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That sounds really bad...
Maybe if we all pitch in and send him some Cheeto infused Häagen-Dazs... he might let us off the hook???
Or some self-help diet books by Rosie O'Donnell?
Or some Bill Cosby guidance on how to make new friends thru modern chemistry?
I have a Wizard of Oz video cassette I could send... it does have some skips.
I think The Jesus and AA could do more for him honestly.
It's almost professional foosball time. Ain't got time to poke the schitty end of a stick into some alcoholic never been.
Need to run up to Wally World and get some french onion dip for the fritos scoops khaneralla bought for me yesterday. Naturally Numbnuts forgot to buy dip for fuuuuking fritos scoops... Duh... Scoops.... Any dip for em zippy????? She probably been fuuuking Johnny and caught the stoopid from him. Gonna advoid her for about a week so I dont catch that schitt from her....
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JFC... I thought EVERYONE knew them scoops are made for homemade queso dip. Git yourself some hamburger, picante sauce, a can of hormel chili, some govment cheese and whip some out. Grunts... 🙄😁🤣
I bet Johnny,s barrel would go limp dick before the gas tube blows. I bet about rd 250 to 300 it would lose headspace and have out of battery detonations.
Equals not a wpn. Or something to trust you or your buddy's life on. Just a prom queen hunting rifle.
And your unscrupulous azz is selling these to a war zone???
Better men than you. C Squadron and A Squadron.
I was getting a kick out of reading this thread and all the slapdowns until I saw this pic titled "better man than you". Sorry but any hunter that would shoot a less that year old calf off its mamas teat is not much of a man or a hunter. It's kinda dissapointing to see two grown men looking proud over this. What a couple of c()nts.
I really don't understand all the hate in this thread - did he date Hillary Clinton or something? Did you guys have some cuddle relationship that went South?
It all looks very personal from the outside looking in. Again, I don't have any skin in the game but threads like this one and and of Bigstick's comments need Cliff notes to decipher...
Bygones.
When the good lord was handing out humbleness ol NyQuil burns was skipped..
People that buy boutique ARs are fuggin retarded. Milspec is milspec. Use an Anderson lower, generic parts kit and buy a good barrel. It'll do what the rest do. Tinker toy guns.
It's almost professional foosball time. Ain't got time to poke the schitty end of a stick into some alcoholic never been.
Need to run up to Wally World and get some french onion dip for the fritos scoops khaneralla bought for me yesterday. Naturally Numbnuts forgot to buy dip for fuuuuking fritos scoops... Duh... Scoops.... Any dip for em zippy????? She probably been fuuuking Johnny and caught the stoopid from him. Gonna advoid her for about a week so I dont catch that schitt from her....
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JFC... I thought EVERYONE knew them scoops are made for homemade queso dip. Git yourself some hamburger, picante sauce, a can of hormel chili, some govment cheese and whip some out. Grunts... 🙄😁🤣
My transgressions hopefully will be forgiven by Sky 6.
I took the easy wrong over the hard right... 🤷♂️😔😔😔😄
Thanks mr burns for the rifle I will cherish it for the rest of my life. NyQuil Burns uh I’m not giving you that rifle now smile for the picture and give me my rifle back.
How much did that fella pay to shoot that??? Is that another loaner rifle ???? Did he have to pay a rental fee to use it ? Or did you include it in the overall package?? If ya did that's mighty white of you Johnny👍👍👍
Nowhere in this Article do I see NyQuil Burns name mentioned.
“ The 6.5 mm Creedmoor’s roots are bedded deep into a game of precision and skill. Dennis Demille, longtime competitive shooter, went to a derivative of the .308 Win. cartridge for design inspiration—the .260 Rem. With a stringent guideline of what this new wildcat needed to follow, Demille and Hornady ballistician Dave Emery, among others, worked to turn Demille’s dream of an over-the-counter load that exhibited performance standards capable to compete at national-level events into a reality. Demille’s guideline set the pace for the 6.5 mm Creedmoor. Ultimately, the wildcat needed to shoot flat, and to do so high-ballisitc-coefficient 6.5 mm bullets were on call. The cartridge’s overall length with these long, javelin-like bullets needed to conform to magazine length. Recoil was required to be significantly less than what .308 Win. produces. And the cartridge was required to minimize negative effects on the bore.”
Come set me straight, buddy, exactly what is your "involvement" in the development of 6.5 Creedmoor?
You made the claim. Back it up! Maybe some folks at Hornady would like to clue us in on how it couldn't have been done without you? Or if you admit you were drunkenly boasting something that wasn't true, ask for forgiveness, you would earn some credibility back. Some.
I've noticed the "better men than you..." posts never seem to include a picture of the poster.
The guys in the picture are the "better men".
He knows exactly why I use that phrase.
And...
You think that gets to me???
You see Johnny.....
Little ole 11B me could talk the talk with those guys. Cause I have Walked the Walk like those guys in many ways. Unlike your " never been" azz on the outer periphery of their conversations you hear and then live vicariously thru on here.
Come set me straight, buddy, exactly what is your "involvement" in the development of 6.5 Creedmoor?
You made the claim. Back it up! Maybe some folks at Hornady would like to clue us in on how it couldn't have been done without you? Or if you admit you were drunkenly boasting something that wasn't true, ask for forgiveness, you would earn some credibility back. Some.
You better watch out he’s going to log your IP address and sick his pro bono lawyer on you.
Come set me straight, buddy, exactly what is your "involvement" in the development of 6.5 Creedmoor?
You made the claim. Back it up! Maybe some folks at Hornady would like to clue us in on how it couldn't have been done without you? Or if you admit you were drunkenly boasting something that wasn't true, ask for forgiveness, you would earn some credibility back. Some.
You better watch out he’s going to log your IP address and sick his pro bono lawyer on you.
Yup, just another fairytale he tells the middle-age cougars at the bar, but they still go home with the drunk college guys while Johnny fantasizes in his head what it would be like to be with an actual woman.
I've noticed the "better men than you..." posts never seem to include a picture of the poster.
The guys in the picture are the "better men".
He knows exactly why I use that phrase.
And...
You think that gets to me???
You see Johnny.....
Little ole 11B me could talk the talk with those guys. Cause I have Walked the Walk like those guys in many ways. Unlike your " never been" azz on the outer periphery of their conversations you hear and then live vicariously thru on here.
Why the name change from Greybull Precision to Wyoming Arms?
I sold Greybull Precision in 2013 and had a non compete agreement on building bolt action rifles.
Wyoming Arms is a completely seperate venture focused on top end ARs and cutting edge suppressors.
Uh huh.... What was the tax deal owed related to it all that was laid out on here by posters the state of Wyoming had on your azz... And the other 3 cats the court found in favor of related to the whole deal. Friends and former bussiness partners you tried to screw over huh???
Numerous members have dug up and posted all that schit on here IIRC.
Just because you had legal protection via LLC or what ever it was covering your azz dont mean you ain't a con artist. Those are legal means to bail on schit and remain relatively unscathed ain't they Johnny.....
Jeff is gonna fire your azz if you don’t sell more ARs . Does his gas and oil industry business in the same building carry WyoArms ? Or is that backwards?
Why the name change from Greybull Precision to Wyoming Arms?
I sold Greybull Precision in 2013 and had a non compete agreement on building bolt action rifles.
Wyoming Arms is a completely seperate venture focused on top end ARs and cutting edge suppressors.
Uh huh.... What was the tax deal owed related to it all that was laid out on here by posters the state of Wyoming had on your azz... And the other 3 cats the court found in favor of related to the whole deal. Friends and former bussiness partners you tried to screw over huh???
Numerous members have dug up and posted all that schit on here IIRC.
Just because you had legal protection via LLC or what ever it was covering your azz dont mean you ain't a con artist. Those are legal means to bail on schit and remain relatively unscathed ain't they Johnny.....
🤣🤣🤣
Not that I have any interest in clearing Mr. Burns' name, but I took a look at the WY SOS filings and I believe that the tax liabilities are not actually taxes owed but, rather, the annual state LLC fee of about $50. It's pretty common for LLCs or Corporations to miss their annual filing requirements when they don't have in house counsel who watches regulatory filing deadlines.
Assuming that this is what is going on with Mr. Burns' companies, the worst that you can say is that he is bad with keeping track of when filings are due. The administrative dissolutions are not a big deal in these situations.
Administrative dissolutions and suspensions for failure to file annual reports/pay annual fees are not good, but they're nowhere near as bad as actually having unpaid taxes or bankruptcy dissolutions.
Why the name change from Greybull Precision to Wyoming Arms?
I sold Greybull Precision in 2013 and had a non compete agreement on building bolt action rifles.
Wyoming Arms is a completely seperate venture focused on top end ARs and cutting edge suppressors.
Uh huh.... What was the tax deal owed related to it all that was laid out on here by posters the state of Wyoming had on your azz... And the other 3 cats the court found in favor of related to the whole deal. Friends and former bussiness partners you tried to screw over huh???
Numerous members have dug up and posted all that schit on here IIRC.
Just because you had legal protection via LLC or what ever it was covering your azz dont mean you ain't a con artist. Those are legal means to bail on schit and remain relatively unscathed ain't they Johnny.....
🤣🤣🤣
Not that I have any interest in clearing Mr. Burns' name, but I took a look at the WY SOS filings and I believe that the tax liabilities are not actually taxes owed but, rather, the annual state LLC fee of about $50. It's pretty common for LLCs or Corporations to miss their annual filing requirements when they don't have in house counsel who watches regulatory filing deadlines.
Assuming that this is what is going on with Mr. Burns' companies, the worst that you can say is that he is bad with keeping track of when filings are due. The administrative dissolutions are not a big deal in these situations.
Administrative dissolutions and suspensions for failure to file annual reports/pay annual fees are not good, but they're nowhere near as bad as actually having unpaid taxes or bankruptcy dissolutions.
You think Johnny is gonna sue me for slander if even remotely close to what you just posted. He has my IP.. I'm fuuuuked..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I bet their was alot more too it than some forgotten filing fee...
Johnny tight wad con artist and money/ tax issue stuff from what others put up on here before IIRC.
People will often post to their social media pictures of themselves with others they're proud to be associated with.
Having perused some of these places with these famous people - I noticed someone was missing, mentions of a certain company were missing while other companies in the same state - proudly called out.
You're not really friends unless they claim you too...
Schit all over websites where Johnny has been a constant Fuuuk up and 86,d... One site he got all uppity and threatened to snipe people and schit. Then tried to explain it all away he was doing nyquil and drinking heavily. Links got posted on here about that schit.
People will often post to their social media pictures of themselves with others they're proud to be associated with.
Having perused some of these places with these famous people - I noticed someone was missing, mentions of a certain company were missing while other companies in the same state - proudly called out.
You're not really friends unless they claim you too...
People will often post to their social media pictures of themselves with others they're proud to be associated with.
Having perused some of these places with these famous people - I noticed someone was missing, mentions of a certain company were missing while other companies in the same state - proudly called out.
You're not really friends unless they claim you too...
Besides David Walter, not one other owner on this site? I find this difficult to believe.
Go price all the chit he puts on his AR builds. Unless he’s just the greatest employer ever and pays top notch wages I have no idea where one can get 3k for an AR..
People will often post to their social media pictures of themselves with others they're proud to be associated with.
Having perused some of these places with these famous people - I noticed someone was missing, mentions of a certain company were missing while other companies in the same state - proudly called out.
You're not really friends unless they claim you too...
Kyle dropping my name and Wyoming Arms multiple times on Vickers podcast just fo funzzies.
Johnny your a VB ( virgin boy) with women right??? But you are a life long Homo Bachelor and Jeff is your spouse and business " partner" ???? Why don't you 2 just move to a state that allows gay marriage and jump the broom???
Besides David Walter, not one other owner on this site? I find this difficult to believe.
I have an AR I built for way less money I’m talking $2400 less and it shoots just as good as his chit. It’s all about the barrels and triggers on these AR’s.
Now that’s funny! Barrels and triggers….. It’s about the important scheit you dolt, the color of the cerakote plays a huge part just for starters.
Besides David Walter, not one other owner on this site? I find this difficult to believe.
I have an AR I built for way less money I’m talking $2400 less and it shoots just as good as his chit. It’s all about the barrels and triggers on these AR’s.
Now that’s funny! Barrels and triggers….. It’s about the important scheit you dolt, the color of the cerakote plays a huge part just for starters.
Well chit my bad disregard… oh your IP address noted you are getting sued..
People will often post to their social media pictures of themselves with others they're proud to be associated with.
Having perused some of these places with these famous people - I noticed someone was missing, mentions of a certain company were missing while other companies in the same state - proudly called out.
You're not really friends unless they claim you too...
Kyle dropping my name and Wyoming Arms multiple times on Vickers podcast just fo funzzies.
Besides David Walter, not one other owner on this site? I find this difficult to believe.
I have an AR I built for way less money I’m talking $2400 less and it shoots just as good as his chit. It’s all about the barrels and triggers on these AR’s.
Now that’s funny! Barrels and triggers….. It’s about the important scheit you dolt, the color of the cerakote plays a huge part just for starters.
Well chit my bad disregard… oh your IP address noted you are getting sued..
I just texted my attorney kingstons Cheetos pic. He just LMAO’d me and said WTF man?!
Besides David Walter, not one other owner on this site? I find this difficult to believe.
I have an AR I built for way less money I’m talking $2400 less and it shoots just as good as his chit. It’s all about the barrels and triggers on these AR’s.
Now that’s funny! Barrels and triggers….. It’s about the important scheit you dolt, the color of the cerakote plays a huge part just for starters.
I know a guy who rolled outta bed, burped a quick 200 rounds and then went off and won a Patrol Rifle shooting comp against other LEO from much larger departments with an off the shelf M&P.
Certain people mentioned here were there, though not competing AFAIK.
With so many makers of the AR and such a long history - there's likely little 'voodoo' left to find in the platform as originally designed.
Besides David Walter, not one other owner on this site? I find this difficult to believe.
I have an AR I built for way less money I’m talking $2400 less and it shoots just as good as his chit. It’s all about the barrels and triggers on these AR’s.
Now that’s funny! Barrels and triggers….. It’s about the important scheit you dolt, the color of the cerakote plays a huge part just for starters.
I know a guy who rolled outta bed, burped a quick 200 rounds and then went off and won a Patrol Rifle shooting comp against other LEO from much larger departments with an off the shelf M&P.
Certain people mentioned here were there, though not competing AFAIK.
With so many makers of the AR and such a long history - there's likely little 'voodoo' left to find in the platform as originally designed.
You guys are completely embarrassing yourselves but are too dumb to even know it. You couldn't defeat Burns's arguments on Russia-Ukraine on their merits so you resorted to childish name-calling. When that didn't work, you went after his business and his products. But alll of it is nothing more than conceding, as loudly as possible, that you've completely lost the debate because if you had meritorious arguments to make, you'd be making them instead of making childish ad hominem attacks.
You guys are completely embarrassing yourselves but are too dumb to even know it. You couldn't defeat Burns's arguments on Russia-Ukraine on their merits so you resorted to childish name-calling. When that didn't work, you went after his business and his products. But alll of it is nothing more than conceding, as loudly as possible, that you've completely lost the debate because if you had meritorious arguments to make, you'd be making them instead of making childish ad hominem attacks.
Are there any fine Wyoming Arms in Salmon, Idaho you fugging disgrace?
Thats one hell of an endorsement to have Jeff O and the Queen on your side.😂😂😂🤣🤣
You guys are completely embarrassing yourselves but are too dumb to even know it. You couldn't defeat Burns's arguments on Russia-Ukraine on their merits so you resorted to childish name-calling. When that didn't work, you went after his business and his products. But alll of it is nothing more than conceding, as loudly as possible, that you've completely lost the debate because if you had meritorious arguments to make, you'd be making them instead of making childish ad hominem attacks.
IP address noted John burns going to sue you so bad he’s taking your collection of blow up dolls, butt plugs and anal beats. In other words you are ph ucked!!!
Hey Johnnny... Surfing Lambs Instagram ... Strangely it seems when he is in Wyoming he drops pics and post on his Instagram from Christensen Arms and not your place. What's up with that??? I could not find a single pic of him and you on his Instagram account either ????? What's up with that???
But I did find this one he had taken with this guy while he was in Wyoming at Christensen Arms though.
Kanye and Kyle in Da house at Christensen Arms!!!! And on Lamb's Instagram But no Johnny on it to be seen..
Besides David Walter, not one other owner on this site? I find this difficult to believe.
I have an AR I built for way less money I’m talking $2400 less and it shoots just as good as his chit. It’s all about the barrels and triggers on these AR’s.
Now that’s funny! Barrels and triggers….. It’s about the important scheit you dolt, the color of the cerakote plays a huge part just for starters.
I know a guy who rolled outta bed, burped a quick 200 rounds and then went off and won a Patrol Rifle shooting comp against other LEO from much larger departments with an off the shelf M&P.
Certain people mentioned here were there, though not competing AFAIK.
With so many makers of the AR and such a long history - there's likely little 'voodoo' left to find in the platform as originally designed.
Some are more prettier than others though.
Pretty dont count unless it is at the private land prom queen event.
Joe proof bullet slinger wpns count..... 👍👍👍 And even then Joe can find a way for a WTF moment at times. Last thing any Joe needs is a prom queen rifle instead of a wpn... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You guys are completely embarrassing yourselves but are too dumb to even know it. You couldn't defeat Burns's arguments on Russia-Ukraine on their merits so you resorted to childish name-calling. When that didn't work, you went after his business and his products. But alll of it is nothing more than conceding, as loudly as possible, that you've completely lost the debate because if you had meritorious arguments to make, you'd be making them instead of making childish ad hominem attacks.
The thread is about who owns a WA rifle. Do you?
P.S. Burns didn't make an argument about Russia Ukraine. He just stirred the put with crap about wizards and orcs. There is no need to offer a rational rebuttal to that.
You guys are completely embarrassing yourselves but are too dumb to even know it. You couldn't defeat Burns's arguments on Russia-Ukraine on their merits so you resorted to childish name-calling. When that didn't work, you went after his business and his products. But alll of it is nothing more than conceding, as loudly as possible, that you've completely lost the debate because if you had meritorious arguments to make, you'd be making them instead of making childish ad hominem attacks.
The thread is about who owns a WA rifle. Do you?
P.S. Burns didn't make an argument about Russia Ukraine. He just stirred the put with crap about wizards and orcs. There is no need to offer a rational rebuttal to that.
I made many predictions about how the war would play out and was spot on with every one.
You guys are completely embarrassing yourselves but are too dumb to even know it. You couldn't defeat Burns's arguments on Russia-Ukraine on their merits so you resorted to childish name-calling. When that didn't work, you went after his business and his products. But alll of it is nothing more than conceding, as loudly as possible, that you've completely lost the debate because if you had meritorious arguments to make, you'd be making them instead of making childish ad hominem attacks.
The thread is about who owns a WA rifle. Do you?
P.S. Burns didn't make an argument about Russia Ukraine. He just stirred the put with crap about wizards and orcs. There is no need to offer a rational rebuttal to that.
I made many predictions about how the war would play out and was spot on with every one.
You guys are completely embarrassing yourselves but are too dumb to even know it. You couldn't defeat Burns's arguments on Russia-Ukraine on their merits so you resorted to childish name-calling. When that didn't work, you went after his business and his products. But alll of it is nothing more than conceding, as loudly as possible, that you've completely lost the debate because if you had meritorious arguments to make, you'd be making them instead of making childish ad hominem attacks.
Uhhh.....those aren't Cheetos. These times are tuff, gotta make compromises and buy the store brand air cheese. Did the grocery run with the wife this morning. What used to cost about $130 - $150 was now $205 Yeah, Joe's 6% inflation my ass.
Uhhh.....those aren't Cheetos. These times are tuff, gotta make compromises and buy the store brand air cheese. Did the grocery run with the wife this morning. What used to cost about $130 - $150 was now $205 Yeah, Joe's 6% inflation my ass.
Cheetos is owned by Pepsi...
After Pepsi chit-canned Aunt Jemima... I went with Utz.
Hey Johnnny... Surfing Lambs Instagram ... Strangely it seems when he is in Wyoming he drops pics and post on his Instagram from Christensen Arms and not your place. What's up with that??? I could not find a single pic of him and you on his Instagram account either ????? What's up with that???
But I did find this one he had taken with this guy while he was in Wyoming at Christensen Arms though.
Kanye and Kyle in Da house at Christensen Arms!!!! And on Lamb's Instagram But no Johnny on it to be seen..
I am submitting this gif as a guide to keep someone here (the guest of honor) from breaking their arm...>>>>> ^^^^^^^^......patting themselves on the back
Hey Johnnny... Surfing Lambs Instagram ... Strangely it seems when he is in Wyoming he drops pics and post on his Instagram from Christensen Arms and not your place. What's up with that??? I could not find a single pic of him and you on his Instagram account either ????? What's up with that???
But I did find this one he had taken with this guy while he was in Wyoming at Christensen Arms though.
Kanye and Kyle in Da house at Christensen Arms!!!! And on Lamb's Instagram But no Johnny on it to be seen..
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣🤔🤣🤣🤣
BTT for GP....
Burns is a douche, but Christensen Arms is in Gunnison, Utah.
Hey Johnnny... Surfing Lambs Instagram ... Strangely it seems when he is in Wyoming he drops pics and post on his Instagram from Christensen Arms and not your place. What's up with that??? I could not find a single pic of him and you on his Instagram account either ????? What's up with that???
But I did find this one he had taken with this guy while he was in Wyoming at Christensen Arms though.
Kanye and Kyle in Da house at Christensen Arms!!!! And on Lamb's Instagram But no Johnny on it to be seen..
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣🤔🤣🤣🤣
BTT for GP....
Burns is a douche, but Christensen Arms is in Gunnison, Utah.
👍👍👍 Thanks for the correction.
Still no pics of Johnny on Lambs instagram though.
One best bud got all types of pics of him and best bud.
Johnny is gonna get mad at you playing him for the fool and he is gonna IP you for sure... And SUE the schit outta ya man. Get your bike, send it to his peeps, they melt it down and make silencers out of it, and then Johnny will lasar etch his logo on them...
How does their durability and decibel rating compare to others?
In Ti durability is a function of heat. Keep the suppressor under 800 degs and it basically last much longer than barrels.
Shooters ear reduction is 20Db +/-.
Lot's of quieter suppressors, none even close on size of weight.
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
I own a few but not an expert on suppressors or how the values are measured. Most makers list “at the muzzle” numbers. Is this the same as what you’re calling “at the shooters ear”? If so, then 140 isn’t terrible comparatively. A cheap Silencerco Harvester, that I own, takes a .308 down to 135db. Honestly I’ve never noticed the weight one bit. POI change with and without it mounted is my biggest gripe.
You girls don't seem like the type that can afford the good stuff.
Have you been putting in extra hours picking up pop cans on the roadside?
I’d guess Kingston could roll a collection of every caliber/cerakote color combination you offer and still afford a couple of Taco Bell chalupas for lunch on the ride home from the FFL.
I own a few but not an expert on suppressors or how the values are measured. Most makers list “at the muzzle” numbers. Is this the same as what you’re calling “at the shooters ear”? If so, then 140 isn’t terrible comparatively. A cheap Silencerco Harvester, that I own, takes a .308 down to 135db. Honestly I’ve never noticed the weight one bit. POI change with and without it mounted is my biggest gripe.
Shooter ears is 1.6 meters off the ground with the mic 6 inches from the shooters ear on the right side.
You Harvester, assuming a newer EVO is pretty light at 11 ozs without the mount which add another 2 ozs. It adds 6 inches of lenght to the rifle.
My 4/2 Ti is 4 ozs mounted and adds 3.5 inches to the gun.
Lots of tradeoffs but I set out to capture the smallest lightest market, not the most quiet.
You girls don't seem like the type that can afford the good stuff.
Have you been putting in extra hours picking up pop cans on the roadside?
I’d guess Kingston could roll a collection of every caliber/cerakote color combination you offer and still afford a couple of Taco Bell chalupas for lunch on the ride home from the FFL.
My ex-wife was the one with the deep pockets. I get a modest alimony. Anymore it's barely enough to keep fuel in the lawn mower and the weed whacker.
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
So you took your product to the max allowable 140 db and couldnt use your "science" to reduce that down. Or did that "science" cut into profitability too much. Where you able to get down in the 100 db or lower range in development or did you just say fuuuk it make it as light as possible and push to 140db if that is what it takes.
So yours is made out of Titanium as its main selling point but yet people say on that link to that other site they have to wear hearing pro with yours and dont have too with others.
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
So you took you product to the max allowable 140 db and couldnt use your "science" to reduce that down. Or did that "science" cut into profitability too much. Where you able to get down in the 100 db or lower range in development or did you just say [bleep] it make it as light as possible and push to 140db if that is what it takes.
So yours is made out of Titanium as its main selling point but yet people say on that link they have to wear hearing pro with yours and dont with others.
I own a few but not an expert on suppressors or how the values are measured. Most makers list “at the muzzle” numbers. Is this the same as what you’re calling “at the shooters ear”? If so, then 140 isn’t terrible comparatively. A cheap Silencerco Harvester, that I own, takes a .308 down to 135db. Honestly I’ve never noticed the weight one bit. POI change with and without it mounted is my biggest gripe.
Shooter ears is 1.6 meters off the ground with the mic 6 inches from the shooters ear on the right side.
You Harvester, assuming a newer EVO is pretty light at 11 ozs without the mount which add another 2 ozs. It adds 6 inches of lenght to the rifle.
My 4/2 Ti is 4 ozs mounted and adds 3.5 inches to the gun.
Lots of tradeoffs but I set out to capture the smallest lightest market, not the most quiet.
Diminishing returns. If someone is spending $1,000 and waiting months, setting up a trust etc.. the most quiet is a big factor. My harvester30 (not evo), on a 16” .308 the length and weight aren’t even noticeable. The noise and recoil reduction are.
To clarify, is the numbers you’re quoting at the muzzle like other manufacturers list?
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
So you took you product to the max allowable 140 db and couldnt use your "science" to reduce that down. Or did that "science" cut into profitability too much. Where you able to get down in the 100 db or lower range in development or did you just say [bleep] it make it as light as possible and push to 140db if that is what it takes.
So yours is made out of Titanium as its main selling point but yet people say on that link they have to wear hearing pro with yours and dont with others.
Gotcha..
I’m pretty sure at this point that you could get a Blow Job from Selma Hayek and find something to complain about it.
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
OSHA allows 140 db at the human ear? Below is from link posted below.
Painful & Dangerous
Decibel levels ranging from 120 to 140 dB are very dangerous to human hearing and also painful. Even the shortest direct exposure to such loud sounds can cause eardrum rupture and instant hearing loss.
Common sources of painful and dangerous noises with a level between 120 and 140 dB include:
· aircraft taking off;
· thunderclap;
· jackhammer or chainsaw;
· gunshot from a high-caliber gun or firearm like a rifle or a shotgun.
So you took you product to the max allowable 140 db and couldnt use your "science" to reduce that down. Or did that "science" cut into profitability too much. Where you able to get down in the 100 db or lower range in development or did you just say [bleep] it make it as light as possible and push to 140db if that is what it takes.
So yours is made out of Titanium as its main selling point but yet people say on that link they have to wear hearing pro with yours and dont with others.
Gotcha..
I’m pretty sure at this point that you could get a Blow Job from Selma Hayek and find something to complain about it.
😂
It's not Rene's fault that Selma Hayek doesn't know how to run a lawnmower.
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
So you took you product to the max allowable 140 db and couldnt use your "science" to reduce that down. Or did that "science" cut into profitability too much. Where you able to get down in the 100 db or lower range in development or did you just say [bleep] it make it as light as possible and push to 140db if that is what it takes.
So yours is made out of Titanium as its main selling point but yet people say on that link they have to wear hearing pro with yours and dont with others.
Gotcha..
I’m pretty sure at this point that you could get a Blow Job from Selma Hayek and find something to complain about it.
😂
I wouldn't complain if it was your mom honking on Bobo though.
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
OSHA allows 140 db at the human ear? Below is from link posted below.
Painful & Dangerous
Decibel levels ranging from 120 to 140 dB are very dangerous to human hearing and also painful. Even the shortest direct exposure to such loud sounds can cause eardrum rupture and instant hearing loss.
Common sources of painful and dangerous noises with a level between 120 and 140 dB include:
· aircraft taking off;
· thunderclap;
· jackhammer or chainsaw;
· gunshot from a high-caliber gun or firearm like a rifle or a shotgun.
Where you able to get down in the 100 db or lower range in development or did you just say fuuuk it make it as light as possible and push to 140db if that is what it takes.
Even a retard can see the brilliance of the design.
Yes I made it as light as possible.
When you have enough supression for hunting why add weight just to get more suppression than needed?
The market is full of heavy suppressors that chase each other in DB ratings.
I have the smallest lightest, by a long shot.
It might not be for everyone, just hunters who understand.
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
Wow.
Please post a cite of any bankruptsy.
It's basically exactly libel to claim such things and IP Addys are logged.
Sure hope you can back your lies or don't have any assets I might love to grab from a suit.
Good luck.
Finally! The miss Lynn gambit. That's winning, right there.
It would probably help his credibility is he would spell Bankruptcy correctly.....
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
No you didn’t.
Stop lying.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Dumb question John, isn’t the point of a suppressor, to reduce noise? Size and weight are moot if it doesn’t reduce decibels to the point it’s safe to shoot sans hearing protection? Why bother otherwise. The threads on long range hunting all have the same comments, that it doesn’t reduce noise enough to negate the use of protection.
Not dumb at all.
OSHA considers 140 DB at the ear an acceptable amount of sound to which I can subject my employees.
My 4 oz Ti on a 6.5mm CM bolt gun has 140 DB at the shooters ear.
For spotters slightly further away we are way down in the 130 DB range.
I understand why some may want more suppression but how much weight will you tolerate on a hunting rifle?
Shooters ear numbers on an AR which is hard to get good shooter ear suppression. It's the little numbers LZMax. 139.5 DB.
OSHA allows 140 db at the human ear? Below is from link posted below.
Painful & Dangerous
Decibel levels ranging from 120 to 140 dB are very dangerous to human hearing and also painful. Even the shortest direct exposure to such loud sounds can cause eardrum rupture and instant hearing loss.
Common sources of painful and dangerous noises with a level between 120 and 140 dB include:
· aircraft taking off;
· thunderclap;
· jackhammer or chainsaw;
· gunshot from a high-caliber gun or firearm like a rifle or a shotgun.
Seriously? I mean…..I’m starting to wonder if his other claims are less than honest. Is it possible he wasn’t instrumental in the development of the 6.5creedmoor?
So you took you product to the max allowable 140 db and couldnt use your "science" to reduce that down. Or did that "science" cut into profitability too much. Where you able to get down in the 100 db or lower range in development or did you just say [bleep] it make it as light as possible and push to 140db if that is what it takes.
So yours is made out of Titanium as its main selling point but yet people say on that link they have to wear hearing pro with yours and dont with others.
Gotcha..
I’m pretty sure at this point that you could get a Blow Job from Selma Hayek and find something to complain about it.
😂
It's not Rene's fault that Selma Hayek doesn't know how to run a lawnmower.
Not all women have skills like mowing and blowing. But some know how to read about noise exposure limits and can sniff thru most bullschitt claims I bet...
Who was that old firearm catalog guy??? Roy Herter or someone like that. I think Johnny was a student of his in the fantastical product claims class... 🤣🤣🤣
I have one of the early WY-15s. It loves 55 grain bullets and is more accurate than I can really take advantage of.
It likes 70 Berger’s and 69 TMKs, but since we can’t hunt with 223/5.56 for big game in WA, I mostly target and varmint shoot with mine.
Mine isn’t sporting a Leupold cause I don’t have any Leupold. The SWFA 6x MQ on board works well for what I’m willing to shoot at at distances I can hit at.
You have the one before he went bankrupt again and came back with New Wyoming Arms.. Word on the street all those people in those pictures he’s posting didn’t keep those Wyoming Arms rifles he lets them take hero shots and takes them back. Right now he’s hustling as many of those things he can to ukraine while their is money yo be made. He’s using Kyle lamb and his contacts in special operations community. You don’t retire a CSM in special operations without a lot of connections. I’m one beer away from stroke burns going to play that as long as he can. He’s had several failed businesses and he needs this war in ukraine.
Wow.
Please post a cite of any bankruptsy.
It's basically exactly libel to claim such things and IP Addys are logged.
Sure hope you can back your lies or don't have any assets I might love to grab from a suit.
Good luck.
Finally! The miss Lynn gambit. That's winning, right there.
It would probably help his credibility is he would spell Bankruptcy correctly.....
The moron don't even know the difference tween bankrupt, which was the truth as stated, and bankruptcy, which is a court proceeding.
You would think somebody that's been in a court case where he lost so bad he hadda pay the other side's attorney fees, would be more familiar with the process.
Where you able to get down in the 100 db or lower range in development or did you just say fuuuk it make it as light as possible and push to 140db if that is what it takes.
Even a retard can see the brilliance of the design.
Yes I made it as light as possible.
When you have enough supression for hunting why add weight just to get more suppression than needed?
The market is full of heavy suppressors that chase each other in DB ratings.
I have the smallest lightest, by a long shot.
It might not be for everyone, just hunters who understand.
Johnny your clients are not hunters. Its pay per kill at the petting zoo. Those rubes will believe anything that comes out of your piehole.
And your "smallest lightest" is a farce you promote at the max osha threshold you can get away with.
And you didnt answer a question of mine that was uncomfortable for you in my post either from your selective cherry picking of it.. But that is what weasels like you do....
Seriously? I mean…..I’m starting to wonder if his other claims are less than honest. Is it possible he wasn’t instrumental in the development of the 6.5creedmoor?
So has the retard crowd figured out how to read website yet?
I understand why you might think that based on all my other acomplishments, but no.
I did invent the first 4 oz effective centerfire suppressor, so I got that going for me.
Which is nice.
So, Who "invented" the 4-1/4 oz. suppressor? Umm...modifying isn't inventing.
Yeah, I'm gonna invent a lighter Crescent wrench. Grind 1/2" off the end, BANG!
Better go a little farther than that to meet this guys business model. A supressor that doesnt suppress but is the lightest....Therefore your crescent wrench probably should not be adjustable, but should be the lightest.
Seriously? I mean…..I’m starting to wonder if his other claims are less than honest. Is it possible he wasn’t instrumental in the development of the 6.5creedmoor?
So has the retard crowd figured out how to read website yet?
No John...
Please write out a great summary so Big Stick can make a YouTube.
I was there just yesterday and found a bucket of 8 and 10 point stuffed in a barrel
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by CashisKing
John... got any more of dem milk lip kills?
Maybe with the Governor?
FYI... Chin Lee pays extra for kittens... at the back loading dock of Great China Buffet... at midnight.
Maybe a new LLC for ya?
Only trying to be helpful.
I honestly don't think it even occurs to you that I have killed more nice critters than you have ever seen in your sad life.
It's weird that someone like you who has never killed anything with good horns think that's a zinger?
I am selling my farm in Stafford, VA.
I was there just yesterday loading out chit... and found a bucket of 8 and 10 point skulls I have stuffed in a cut off barrel the past couple of years.
That's it! All your IP addresses have been noted and you all are going to be sued so bad you will need to apply for food stamps! My Lawyer Ray LaFleur going to have a field day with you all.
I was there just yesterday loading out chit... and found a bucket of 8 and 10 point skulls I have stuffed in a cut off barrel the past couple of years.
I was there just yesterday loading out chit... and found a bucket of 8 and 10 point skulls I have stuffed in a cut off barrel the past couple of years.
I’ve used Wyoming Arms lights, optic mounts, and am T&E’ing their 5” suppressor.
Disclaimer: The light and optic mount were sent to me for free. Two free suppressors were donated to the prize table of a shooting match I run.
The light mount was excellent and I used it on a duty rifle for several thousand rounds. I’ve taken it off now because the light head just doesn’t have enough candela compared to what else is on the market. If the WA mount was available for high candela lights I’d use one again.
I’m happy with the optic riser and have used it on several rifles.
The suppressor surprised all of us, who expected to not like it. I’d consider it an excellent option for some applications.
I’ve never used a complete WA AR and have no idea if I’d consider it suitable for a fighting rifle or not. But I suspect nobody posting here has ever even held one, and wouldn’t know how to tell if it’s duty rated if they had held one.
I know nothing about John Burns except people here don’t like him, most of his critics are just on a bandwagon to fit in, and he finds it amusing.
Impulse Noise: The standard states that exposure to impulsive or impact noise should not exceed 140 dB peak sound pressure level.
The standard also states... "When the daily noise exposure is composed of two or more periods of noise exposure of different levels, their combined effect should be considered, rather than the individual effect of each."
And... "If the variations in noise level involve maxima at intervals of 1 second or less, it is to be considered continuous."
And... "When employees are subjected to sound exceeding those listed in Table G-16, feasible administrative or engineering controls shall be utilized. If such controls fail to reduce sound levels within the levels of Table G-16, personal protective equipment shall be provided and used to reduce sound levels within the levels of the table."
Spin some more bullshít Burns. You'd have to be right to prove me wrong and you've never been right.
I’ve used Wyoming Arms lights, optic mounts, and am T&E’ing their 5” suppressor.
Disclaimer: The light and optic mount were sent to me for free. Two free suppressors were donated to the prize table of a shooting match I run.
The light mount was excellent and I used it on a duty rifle for several thousand rounds. I’ve taken it off now because the light head just doesn’t have enough candela compared to what else is on the market. If the WA mount was available for high candela lights I’d use one again.
I’m happy with the optic riser and have used it on several rifles.
The suppressor surprised all of us, who expected to not like it. I’d consider it an excellent option for some applications.
I’ve never used a complete WA AR and have no idea if I’d consider it suitable for a fighting rifle or not. But I suspect nobody posting here has ever even held one, and wouldn’t know how to tell if it’s duty rated if they had held one.
I know nothing about John Burns except people here don’t like him, most of his critics are just on a bandwagon to fit in, and he finds it amusing.
I’ve used Wyoming Arms lights, optic mounts, and am T&E’ing their 5” suppressor.
Disclaimer: The light and optic mount were sent to me for free. Two free suppressors were donated to the prize table of a shooting match I run.
The light mount was excellent and I used it on a duty rifle for several thousand rounds. I’ve taken it off now because the light head just doesn’t have enough candela compared to what else is on the market. If the WA mount was available for high candela lights I’d use one again.
I’m happy with the optic riser and have used it on several rifles.
The suppressor surprised all of us, who expected to not like it. I’d consider it an excellent option for some applications.
I’ve never used a complete WA AR and have no idea if I’d consider it suitable for a fighting rifle or not. But I suspect nobody posting here has ever even held one, and wouldn’t know how to tell if it’s duty rated if they had held one.
I know nothing about John Burns except people here don’t like him, most of his critics are just on a bandwagon to fit in, and he finds it amusing.
This is great to hear.
I'm a big fan of his novel marketing campaigns.
Truth be told, back when he looked like Seinfeld, I wanted to have my picture taken with him.
Impulse Noise: The standard states that exposure to impulsive or impact noise should not exceed 140 dB peak sound pressure level.
The standard also states... "When the daily noise exposure is composed of two or more periods of noise exposure of different levels, their combined effect should be considered, rather than the individual effect of each." And... "If the variations in noise level involve maxima at intervals of 1 second or less, it is to be considered continuous." And... "When employees are subjected to sound exceeding those listed in Table G-16, feasible administrative or engineering controls shall be utilized. If such controls fail to reduce sound levels within the levels of Table G-16, personal protective equipment shall be provided and used to reduce sound levels within the levels of the table." Spin some more bullshít Burns. You'd have to be right to prove me wrong and you've never been right.
Man you would be fun to play poker with.
Watching a dummy double down on a bad hand is fun stuff.
Holy jumpin johosiphat look at what they are charging for those ar’s. 3 grand for an ar 15? Gtf outta here. Good Lordy. The scopes are mounted 3 inches ahead of the charging handle? For crying out loud. An ar 15 is pretty simple. I can do one up with primo parts for under a grand.
Impulse Noise: The standard states that exposure to impulsive or impact noise should not exceed 140 dB peak sound pressure level.
The standard also states... "When the daily noise exposure is composed of two or more periods of noise exposure of different levels, their combined effect should be considered, rather than the individual effect of each." And... "If the variations in noise level involve maxima at intervals of 1 second or less, it is to be considered continuous." And... "When employees are subjected to sound exceeding those listed in Table G-16, feasible administrative or engineering controls shall be utilized. If such controls fail to reduce sound levels within the levels of Table G-16, personal protective equipment shall be provided and used to reduce sound levels within the levels of the table." Spin some more bullshít Burns. You'd have to be right to prove me wrong and you've never been right.
Man you would be fun to play poker with.
Watching a dummy double down on a bad hand is fun stuff.
Impulse Noise: The standard states that exposure to impulsive or impact noise should not exceed 140 dB peak sound pressure level.
The standard also states... "When the daily noise exposure is composed of two or more periods of noise exposure of different levels, their combined effect should be considered, rather than the individual effect of each." And... "If the variations in noise level involve maxima at intervals of 1 second or less, it is to be considered continuous." And... "When employees are subjected to sound exceeding those listed in Table G-16, feasible administrative or engineering controls shall be utilized. If such controls fail to reduce sound levels within the levels of Table G-16, personal protective equipment shall be provided and used to reduce sound levels within the levels of the table." Spin some more bullshít Burns. You'd have to be right to prove me wrong and you've never been right.
Man you would be fun to play poker with.
Watching a dummy double down on a bad hand is fun stuff.
I think you would be fun to eat Häagen-Dazs ice cream with...
Holy jumpin johosiphat look at what they are charging for those ar’s. 3 grand for an ar 15? Gtf outta here. Good Lordy. The scopes are mounted 3 inches ahead of the charging handle? For crying out loud. An ar 15 is pretty simple. I can do one up with primo parts for under a grand.
Just cause it will be fun post up a picture of your best AR but not on a playground.
Holy jumpin johosiphat look at what they are charging for those ar’s. 3 grand for an ar 15? Gtf outta here. Good Lordy. The scopes are mounted 3 inches ahead of the charging handle? For crying out loud. An ar 15 is pretty simple. I can do one up with primo parts for under a grand.
Just cause it will be fun post up a picture of your best AR but not on a playground.
Thanks.
.458 Lott chamber... but still working on the .458 American mag feed solution.
Any help there Johnny?
Also a 10" SBR...
Kahles glass now mounted.
Kinda like a 6.5 Creedmoor... but a tiny bit more performance.
An ar 15 is pretty simple. I can do one up with primo parts for under a grand.
That's pure unadulterated bullschitt.
Yes, they are simple & you can build a bottom of the barrel basic gun for that, but not one composed of all "primo", top shelf parts for that price.
A top shelf set of parts, throughout, will be the better part of $2k, usually around $1500-1800, depending on the exact parts list.
MM
Dude, barrel, trigger and hand guard are the main things that matter. It’s ain’t that expensive. What are the rest of the whiz bang parts getting you? You can spend 10k on a bolt action rifle. That is the problem with the high end ar world. I can choose the parts I want and not pay insane for someone else’s idea of the right parts. It’s not 20 years ago. Most ar parts these days are reliable even the cheap ones.
An ar 15 is pretty simple. I can do one up with primo parts for under a grand.
That's pure unadulterated bullschitt.
Yes, they are simple & you can build a bottom of the barrel basic gun for that, but not one composed of all "primo", top shelf parts for that price.
A top shelf set of parts, throughout, will be the better part of $2k, usually around $1500-1800, depending on the exact parts list.
MM
Dude, barrel, trigger and hand guard are the main things that matter. It’s ain’t that expensive. What are the rest of the whiz bang parts getting you? You can spend 10k on a bolt action rifle. That is the problem with the high end ar world. I can choose the parts I want and not pay insane for someone else’s idea of the right parts. It’s not 20 years ago. Most ar parts these days are reliable even the cheap ones.
An ar 15 is pretty simple. I can do one up with primo parts for under a grand.
That's pure unadulterated bullschitt.
Yes, they are simple & you can build a bottom of the barrel basic gun for that, but not one composed of all "primo", top shelf parts for that price.
A top shelf set of parts, throughout, will be the better part of $2k, usually around $1500-1800, depending on the exact parts list.
MM
Dude, barrel, trigger and hand guard are the main things that matter. It’s ain’t that expensive. What are the rest of the whiz bang parts getting you? You can spend 10k on a bolt action rifle. That is the problem with the high end ar world. I can choose the parts I want and not pay insane for someone else’s idea of the right parts. It’s not 20 years ago. Most ar parts these days are reliable even the cheap ones.
Pictures of your AR are not loading.
Strange how that works out?
Probably be mocked on here. Again everyone builds an AR their way. Oh friendly tip. If you use a rock river eop upper you no longer need your riser mount. The rise is built into the upper. But warning it doesn’t look that cool. But it’s what I use on my personal builds most of the time.
The suppressors look like the one thing the company does do that is unique. A guy like me isn’t who would buy your ar’s anyways. The cans look interesting. I have a tbac ultra 5 that is kinda the same idea as your cans. Not that quiet but perfect for size and weight.
Dude, barrel, trigger and hand guard are the main things that matter. It’s ain’t that expensive. What are the rest of the whiz bang parts getting you? You can spend 10k on a bolt action rifle. That is the problem with the high end ar world. I can choose the parts I want and not pay insane for someone else’s idea of the right parts. It’s not 20 years ago. Most ar parts these days are reliable even the cheap ones.
I love that cuminmecowboy! prioritizes barrel, trigger, and a fugking hand guard over the BCG.
Read this thread and you guys are rough ! Never heard of this Burns guy or his ar and fart can but it is 'merica and he can ask what he wants for his stuff. Market will always decide worth.
An ar 15 is pretty simple. I can do one up with primo parts for under a grand.
That's pure unadulterated bullschitt.
Yes, they are simple & you can build a bottom of the barrel basic gun for that, but not one composed of all "primo", top shelf parts for that price.
A top shelf set of parts, throughout, will be the better part of $2k, usually around $1500-1800, depending on the exact parts list.
MM
Dude, barrel, trigger and hand guard are the main things that matter. It’s ain’t that expensive. What are the rest of the whiz bang parts getting you? You can spend 10k on a bolt action rifle. That is the problem with the high end ar world. I can choose the parts I want and not pay insane for someone else’s idea of the right parts. It’s not 20 years ago. Most ar parts these days are reliable even the cheap ones.
You are a fuggin idiot. $1k doesn’t get you shiiiittt. Stick to playgrounds.
Hey Johnnny... Surfing Lambs Instagram ... Strangely it seems when he is in Wyoming he drops pics and post on his Instagram from Christensen Arms and not your place. What's up with that??? I could not find a single pic of him and you on his Instagram account either ????? What's up with that???
But I did find this one he had taken with this guy while he was in Wyoming at Christensen Arms though.
Kanye and Kyle in Da house at Christensen Arms!!!! And on Lamb's Instagram But no Johnny on it to be seen..
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣🤔🤣🤣🤣
BTT for GP....
Burns is a douche, but Christensen Arms is in Gunnison, Utah.
That photo was taken at Cody Steakhouse in Cody, WY.
I built a pretty decent AR with a match trigger and a match grade chrome lined barrel (Criterion) for ~$750. Taking the budget up to a grand would have easily got a Toolcraft bcg and an upgraded float tube. First 3 shots out of it at 100yds with iron sights was less than .3".
I was there just yesterday loading out chit... and found a bucket of 8 and 10 point skulls I have stuffed in a cut off barrel the past couple of years.
I was there just yesterday loading out chit... and found a bucket of 8 and 10 point skulls I have stuffed in a cut off barrel the past couple of years.
I was there just yesterday loading out chit... and found a bucket of 8 and 10 point skulls I have stuffed in a cut off barrel the past couple of years.
Ya want me to mail them to you?
You can add to the "Wizardry" of Wyoming Arms.
...or I will throw them in the burn pit.
Your call... Häagen-Dazs boy.
Just post a picture of your sad little bucks.
It'll be funny.
Gin Blossom,
No fences, guides , or trespass fees. LMAO
Nice buck!
But that shiny silver scope is funnier than fuqk!
That’s a collector Leupold silver 3x9. It finally puked like they all do . Did they make a shiny silver ? This one is matte.
Hey Johnnny... Surfing Lambs Instagram ... Strangely it seems when he is in Wyoming he drops pics and post on his Instagram from Christensen Arms and not your place. What's up with that??? I could not find a single pic of him and you on his Instagram account either ????? What's up with that???
But I did find this one he had taken with this guy while he was in Wyoming at Christensen Arms though.
Kanye and Kyle in Da house at Christensen Arms!!!! And on Lamb's Instagram But no Johnny on it to be seen..
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣🤔🤣🤣🤣
BTT for GP....
Burns is a douche, but Christensen Arms is in Gunnison, Utah.
That photo was taken at Cody Steakhouse in Cody, WY.
John, What’s the deal with 7.62 Wyo? I seriously find no info anywhere unless I missed it. On the WY-12 (and I’m guessing other models) it say Wyoarms barrel. Turned from someone else’s blank? Able to say who’s? Last question, seriously curious, why aren’t you using Troy/Vtac handguard? He’s your boy, and I like mine.
140 dB will most certainly require the use of hearing protection for the shooter. I would have to ask myself why I would want an extra 4.5 oz of barrel or weight if I'm going to still need to wear hearing protection? I'd use a bare muzzle if its 140 dB at my ear. I've been using at titanium spin-on that weighs 11 oz for the last 12 years or so. I can shoot all day long without hearing protection with it.
I shot a nice mule deer with a 6.5 J. Burns this weekend. It died and all, but I felt gay doing it.
Shoulda used one of Burns suppressors too, hed have went deaf before he died too.
Lol. It had a suppressor on it. Not a custom Burns model. Gun was set up for my son, (more as a recoil suppression than a noise suppression) But we had it dialed in so I used it. (Not in CA)
I shot a nice mule deer with a 6.5 J. Burns this weekend. It died and all, but I felt gay doing it.
Shoulda used one of Burns suppressors too, hed have went deaf before he died too.
Lol. It had a suppressor on it. Not a custom Burns model. Gun was set up for my son, (more as a recoil suppression than a noise suppression) But we had it dialed in so I used it. (Not in CA)
It’s not a quiet silencer, but it’s extremely light and short. The weight savings allows you to carry ear muffs in your pack. Wait, What?!
I built a pretty decent AR with a match trigger and a match grade chrome lined barrel (Criterion) for ~$750. Taking the budget up to a grand would have easily got a Toolcraft bcg and an upgraded float tube. First 3 shots out of it at 100yds with iron sights was less than .3".
Of course you can build a decent rifle for under a grand..........I remember when you did that one..............but the Cowboy explicitly said a "primo" version build.
And though your is a good function & accurate rifle (at least based on what you've said, it not in the "primo" class as I interpret that term.
A "primo" rifle would include the following (or other similar brands / prices & as you shall see below will be well over a grand.........& there are lot of part even more "primo" than what I've used.
Current retail prices & this is w/o things like extended mag release, upgraded ambi-safety, upgraded bolt release
Lets say we get various discounts at 20%, so that brings it to $1,850ish.
And yes, some of the parts can be changed & save some money & still have a "primo" rifle............like maybe a WOA barrel for $300 or so, a cheaper upper & lower, etc. But a WOA barrel, much as I like them, is not a Bartlien. That's why WOA also charges more for a Bartlien.
But the point is, you really can't do a "primo" build for a grand..........a good build, maybe even a very good build, but not a "primo" build. (Which WY Arms is purporting to me.........got no skin in the game, don't have one, never seen one.............just pointing out the cost of top shelf parts.)
But even backing the upper down to a modest BCM built upper, with a non-stainless barrel & a phis coated BCG, you are already into $1,000+
YMMV, especially in your definition of a "primo" rifle, but please, don't piss down my neck & tell me it's rainin'.
After reading this train wreck of a thread , I feel compelled to express my opinion.
This forum is comprised of strong willed and opinionated individuals. The current politics has us all on edge and worried for the future of our country.
Emotions are running high.
J. Burns is one of these guys, and his view on War, Ukraine, Russia etc... run contrary too many here. And we have robust and rowdy debates involving these differences of opinion.... I don't see a problem with that.
But I do see a problem with transferring that vitriol to a thread involving a mans livelihood....
I believe small business is the back bone of this country.
Most small business are run by individuals with great dedication to provide a good product/service at a good price. They do so at great personal sacrifice at times.
Often they have placed their life savings at risk by investing in their own business... they do this for the American dream and we all benefit!
Most have no idea the difficulty of starting/ running a small business. And today it's harder than ever!
I believe they deserve the benefit of a doubt.. always... and we should cheer their success .... not tear them down.
I believe the free markets will weed out the bad ones.
As for prices of individual companies products, I also believe the market will determine that .... I don't see the value in a "Coach Bag" but the market does, as it should be!
I have casually followed J. Burns threads here over the years and pretty much enjoyed them. I envied that he chose to follow his dream and make a living in the hunting firearms industry. I have watched others take jabs at him and always thought it a bit unfair.
As for John's past business dealing, nobody but the individuals involved know the details and details matter! John expressing he sold Greybull Precision and signed a non completive agreement sounds right and legit to me.... again the benefit of a doubt
J. Burns using internet celebrities/ influencers is a tried and true marketing method and in this day and age works. So John is not doing anything out of the ordinary there.
I must admit at times I scratch my head in confusion of his strategy, at times. But not my call, so to speak.
As for Wyoming Arms, I went to his website and viewed his products and to me they look like quality and innovative products. Not all of them are my "cup of tea" and that's ok!!
One caught my eye and that was the mini suppressor, seems to fill a niche that nobody else has... good job.
It's easy to fall into a trap, spurred by differences of opinion and get carried away... I know I have made that mistake at times and consciously try to avoid that mistake going forward.
I put this out there in hopes it will open some eyes and help others to step back and think about what you are doing.
These are hard dangerous times and us tearing each other apart is not the way forward!
I think we should give all small business owners the benefit of a doubt.
Now about politics.... well John, we shall save that for another thread....
Don't gloss over the fact that he is cheering the ruin of the people of the US so he can sell a few of his trinkets through the government to a bunch of NWO Nazis.
After reading this train wreck of a thread , I feel compelled to express my opinion.
This forum is comprised of strong willed and opinionated individuals. The current politics has us all on edge and worried for the future of our country.
Emotions are running high.
J. Burns is one of these guys, and his view on War, Ukraine, Russia etc... run contrary too many here. And we have robust and rowdy debates involving these differences of opinion.... I don't see a problem with that.
But I do see a problem with transferring that vitriol to a thread involving a mans livelihood....
I believe small business is the back bone of this country.
Most small business are run by individuals with great dedication to provide a good product/service at a good price. They do so at great personal sacrifice at times.
Often they have placed their life savings at risk by investing in their own business... they do this for the American dream and we all benefit!
Most have no idea the difficulty of starting/ running a small business. And today it's harder than ever!
I believe they deserve the benefit of a doubt.. always... and we should cheer their success .... not tear them down.
I believe the free markets will weed out the bad ones.
As for prices of individual companies products, I also believe the market will determine that .... I don't see the value in a "Coach Bag" but the market does, as it should be!
I have casually followed J. Burns threads here over the years and pretty much enjoyed them. I envied that he chose to follow his dream and make a living in the hunting firearms industry. I have watched others take jabs at him and always thought it a bit unfair.
As for John's past business dealing, nobody but the individuals involved know the details and details matter! John expressing he sold Greybull Precision and signed a non completive agreement sounds right and legit to me.... again the benefit of a doubt
J. Burns using internet celebrities/ influencers is a tried and true marketing method and in this day and age works. So John is not doing anything out of the ordinary there.
I must admit at times I scratch my head in confusion of his strategy, at times. But not my call, so to speak.
As for Wyoming Arms, I went to his website and viewed his products and to me they look like quality and innovative products. Not all of them are my "cup of tea" and that's ok!!
One caught my eye and that was the mini suppressor, seems to fill a niche that nobody else has... good job.
It's easy to fall into a trap, spurred by differences of opinion and get carried away... I know I have made that mistake at times and consciously try to avoid that mistake going forward.
I put this out there in hopes it will open some eyes and help others to step back and think about what you are doing.
These are hard dangerous times and us tearing each other apart is not the way forward!
I think we should give all small business owners the benefit of a doubt.
Now about politics.... well John, we shall save that for another thread....
It’s not exactly rocket science to not go out on a public forum full of probable customers and piss them off. That is 100% on him.
To anyone with a brain, it’s obvious he has been caught in many lies. The dude is allergic to truth!
After reading this train wreck of a thread , I feel compelled to express my opinion.
This forum is comprised of strong willed and opinionated individuals. The current politics has us all on edge and worried for the future of our country.
Emotions are running high.
J. Burns is one of these guys, and his view on War, Ukraine, Russia etc... run contrary too many here. And we have robust and rowdy debates involving these differences of opinion.... I don't see a problem with that.
But I do see a problem with transferring that vitriol to a thread involving a mans livelihood....
I believe small business is the back bone of this country.
Most small business are run by individuals with great dedication to provide a good product/service at a good price. They do so at great personal sacrifice at times.
Often they have placed their life savings at risk by investing in their own business... they do this for the American dream and we all benefit!
Most have no idea the difficulty of starting/ running a small business. And today it's harder than ever!
I believe they deserve the benefit of a doubt.. always... and we should cheer their success .... not tear them down.
I believe the free markets will weed out the bad ones.
As for prices of individual companies products, I also believe the market will determine that .... I don't see the value in a "Coach Bag" but the market does, as it should be!
I have casually followed J. Burns threads here over the years and pretty much enjoyed them. I envied that he chose to follow his dream and make a living in the hunting firearms industry. I have watched others take jabs at him and always thought it a bit unfair.
As for John's past business dealing, nobody but the individuals involved know the details and details matter! John expressing he sold Greybull Precision and signed a non completive agreement sounds right and legit to me.... again the benefit of a doubt
J. Burns using internet celebrities/ influencers is a tried and true marketing method and in this day and age works. So John is not doing anything out of the ordinary there.
I must admit at times I scratch my head in confusion of his strategy, at times. But not my call, so to speak.
As for Wyoming Arms, I went to his website and viewed his products and to me they look like quality and innovative products. Not all of them are my "cup of tea" and that's ok!!
One caught my eye and that was the mini suppressor, seems to fill a niche that nobody else has... good job.
It's easy to fall into a trap, spurred by differences of opinion and get carried away... I know I have made that mistake at times and consciously try to avoid that mistake going forward.
I put this out there in hopes it will open some eyes and help others to step back and think about what you are doing.
These are hard dangerous times and us tearing each other apart is not the way forward!
I think we should give all small business owners the benefit of a doubt.
Now about politics.... well John, we shall save that for another thread....
Brother Fubar, when Burns gives you that rifle, I'd be more than happy to help you wring it out so I could contribute to your 'fire review of it. I'll even bring ammo.
After reading this train wreck of a thread , I feel compelled to express my opinion.
This forum is comprised of strong willed and opinionated individuals. The current politics has us all on edge and worried for the future of our country.
Emotions are running high.
J. Burns is one of these guys, and his view on War, Ukraine, Russia etc... run contrary too many here. And we have robust and rowdy debates involving these differences of opinion.... I don't see a problem with that.
But I do see a problem with transferring that vitriol to a thread involving a mans livelihood....
I believe small business is the back bone of this country.
Most small business are run by individuals with great dedication to provide a good product/service at a good price. They do so at great personal sacrifice at times.
Often they have placed their life savings at risk by investing in their own business... they do this for the American dream and we all benefit!
Most have no idea the difficulty of starting/ running a small business. And today it's harder than ever!
I believe they deserve the benefit of a doubt.. always... and we should cheer their success .... not tear them down.
I believe the free markets will weed out the bad ones.
As for prices of individual companies products, I also believe the market will determine that .... I don't see the value in a "Coach Bag" but the market does, as it should be!
I have casually followed J. Burns threads here over the years and pretty much enjoyed them. I envied that he chose to follow his dream and make a living in the hunting firearms industry. I have watched others take jabs at him and always thought it a bit unfair.
As for John's past business dealing, nobody but the individuals involved know the details and details matter! John expressing he sold Greybull Precision and signed a non completive agreement sounds right and legit to me.... again the benefit of a doubt
J. Burns using internet celebrities/ influencers is a tried and true marketing method and in this day and age works. So John is not doing anything out of the ordinary there.
I must admit at times I scratch my head in confusion of his strategy, at times. But not my call, so to speak.
As for Wyoming Arms, I went to his website and viewed his products and to me they look like quality and innovative products. Not all of them are my "cup of tea" and that's ok!!
One caught my eye and that was the mini suppressor, seems to fill a niche that nobody else has... good job.
It's easy to fall into a trap, spurred by differences of opinion and get carried away... I know I have made that mistake at times and consciously try to avoid that mistake going forward.
I put this out there in hopes it will open some eyes and help others to step back and think about what you are doing.
These are hard dangerous times and us tearing each other apart is not the way forward!
I think we should give all small business owners the benefit of a doubt.
Now about politics.... well John, we shall save that for another thread....
It’s not exactly rocket science to not go out on a public forum full of probable customers and piss them off. That is 100% on him.
To anyone with a brain, it’s obvious he has been caught in many lies. The dude is allergic to truth!
As I said in my speech.... his marketing strategy is puzzling.... this whole "15 minutes of fame" thing , even bad publicity doesn't make sense to me.... but I am way behind on things like internet fame, marketing stuff.... He seems to think it's good? I don't think much of the Kardashians but their internet notoriety seems to have enriched them? If the allegations here are true, things could go bad for John.... I don't know the truth myself... I will stick with "the benefit of a doubt" until I see proof otherwise....
But I do see a problem with transferring that vitriol to a thread involving a mans livelihood....
I believe small business is the back bone of this country.
Most small business are run by individuals with great dedication to provide a good product/service at a good price. They do so at great personal sacrifice at times.
Often they have placed their life savings at risk by investing in their own business... they do this for the American dream and we all benefit!
Most have no idea the difficulty of starting/ running a small business. And today it's harder than ever!
I believe they deserve the benefit of a doubt.. always... and we should cheer their success .... not tear them down.
I believe the free markets will weed out the bad ones.
As for prices of individual companies products, I also believe the market will determine that .... I don't see the value in a "Coach Bag" but the market does, as it should be!
I have casually followed J. Burns threads here over the years and pretty much enjoyed them. I envied that he chose to follow his dream and make a living in the hunting firearms industry. I have watched others take jabs at him and always thought it a bit unfair.
As for John's past business dealing, nobody but the individuals involved know the details and details matter! John expressing he sold Greybull Precision and signed a non completive agreement sounds right and legit to me.... again the benefit of a doubt
J. Burns using internet celebrities/ influencers is a tried and true marketing method and in this day and age works. So John is not doing anything out of the ordinary there.
I must admit at times I scratch my head in confusion of his strategy, at times. But not my call, so to speak.
As for Wyoming Arms, I went to his website and viewed his products and to me they look like quality and innovative products. Not all of them are my "cup of tea" and that's ok!!
One caught my eye and that was the mini suppressor, seems to fill a niche that nobody else has... good job.
It's easy to fall into a trap, spurred by differences of opinion and get carried away... I know I have made that mistake at times and consciously try to avoid that mistake going forward.
I put this out there in hopes it will open some eyes and help others to step back and think about what you are doing.
These are hard dangerous times and us tearing each other apart is not the way forward!
I think we should give all small business owners the benefit of a doubt.
Now about politics.... well John, we shall save that for another thread....
Good post irfubar.
However, I do think that Burns actually enjoys most of the jabbing and intentionally gets his haters worked up. If it really bothered him, he’d just log off never come back like many of the ex-members have done.
But I do see a problem with transferring that vitriol to a thread involving a mans livelihood....
I believe small business is the back bone of this country.
Most small business are run by individuals with great dedication to provide a good product/service at a good price. They do so at great personal sacrifice at times.
Often they have placed their life savings at risk by investing in their own business... they do this for the American dream and we all benefit!
Most have no idea the difficulty of starting/ running a small business. And today it's harder than ever!
I believe they deserve the benefit of a doubt.. always... and we should cheer their success .... not tear them down.
I believe the free markets will weed out the bad ones.
As for prices of individual companies products, I also believe the market will determine that .... I don't see the value in a "Coach Bag" but the market does, as it should be!
I have casually followed J. Burns threads here over the years and pretty much enjoyed them. I envied that he chose to follow his dream and make a living in the hunting firearms industry. I have watched others take jabs at him and always thought it a bit unfair.
As for John's past business dealing, nobody but the individuals involved know the details and details matter! John expressing he sold Greybull Precision and signed a non completive agreement sounds right and legit to me.... again the benefit of a doubt
J. Burns using internet celebrities/ influencers is a tried and true marketing method and in this day and age works. So John is not doing anything out of the ordinary there.
I must admit at times I scratch my head in confusion of his strategy, at times. But not my call, so to speak.
As for Wyoming Arms, I went to his website and viewed his products and to me they look like quality and innovative products. Not all of them are my "cup of tea" and that's ok!!
One caught my eye and that was the mini suppressor, seems to fill a niche that nobody else has... good job.
It's easy to fall into a trap, spurred by differences of opinion and get carried away... I know I have made that mistake at times and consciously try to avoid that mistake going forward.
I put this out there in hopes it will open some eyes and help others to step back and think about what you are doing.
These are hard dangerous times and us tearing each other apart is not the way forward!
I think we should give all small business owners the benefit of a doubt.
Now about politics.... well John, we shall save that for another thread....
Good post irfubar.
However, I do think that Burns actually enjoys most of the jabbing and intentionally gets his haters worked up. If it really bothered him, he’d just log off never come back like many of the ex-members have done.
Bellydeep, I can understand that.... I enjoy it myself at times.... yanking Big Sticks chain is a barrel of laughs...
However, I do think that Burns actually enjoys most of the jabbing and intentionally gets his haters worked up. If it really bothered him, he’d just log off never come back like many of the ex-members have done.
I think you're exactly right. Along those lines, if people really wanted to get at Burns, they would ignore every thread he gets involved with. Irrelevance is the most feared fate of narcissists. Trading jabs makes him happy because folks are talking about him. Not difficult to figure out, but many keep taking the bait.
Holy jumpin johosiphat look at what they are charging for those ar’s. 3 grand for an ar 15? Gtf outta here. Good Lordy. The scopes are mounted 3 inches ahead of the charging handle? For crying out loud. An ar 15 is pretty simple. I can do one up with primo parts for under a grand.
Just 'cause it will be fun, post up a picture of your best AR, but not on a playground.
Thanks.
John, when you run your mouth, punctuation plays a large role, in making your BS, slightly more credible !
After reading this train wreck of a thread , I feel compelled to express my opinion.
This forum is comprised of strong willed and opinionated individuals. The current politics has us all on edge and worried for the future of our country.
Emotions are running high.
J. Burns is one of these guys, and his view on War, Ukraine, Russia etc... run contrary too many here. And we have robust and rowdy debates involving these differences of opinion.... I don't see a problem with that.
But I do see a problem with transferring that vitriol to a thread involving a mans livelihood....
I believe small business is the back bone of this country.
Most small business are run by individuals with great dedication to provide a good product/service at a good price. They do so at great personal sacrifice at times.
Often they have placed their life savings at risk by investing in their own business... they do this for the American dream and we all benefit!
Most have no idea the difficulty of starting/ running a small business. And today it's harder than ever!
I believe they deserve the benefit of a doubt.. always... and we should cheer their success .... not tear them down.
I believe the free markets will weed out the bad ones.
As for prices of individual companies products, I also believe the market will determine that .... I don't see the value in a "Coach Bag" but the market does, as it should be!
I have casually followed J. Burns threads here over the years and pretty much enjoyed them. I envied that he chose to follow his dream and make a living in the hunting firearms industry. I have watched others take jabs at him and always thought it a bit unfair.
As for John's past business dealing, nobody but the individuals involved know the details and details matter! John expressing he sold Greybull Precision and signed a non completive agreement sounds right and legit to me.... again the benefit of a doubt
J. Burns using internet celebrities/ influencers is a tried and true marketing method and in this day and age works. So John is not doing anything out of the ordinary there.
I must admit at times I scratch my head in confusion of his strategy, at times. But not my call, so to speak.
As for Wyoming Arms, I went to his website and viewed his products and to me they look like quality and innovative products. Not all of them are my "cup of tea" and that's ok!!
One caught my eye and that was the mini suppressor, seems to fill a niche that nobody else has... good job.
It's easy to fall into a trap, spurred by differences of opinion and get carried away... I know I have made that mistake at times and consciously try to avoid that mistake going forward.
I put this out there in hopes it will open some eyes and help others to step back and think about what you are doing.
These are hard dangerous times and us tearing each other apart is not the way forward!
I think we should give all small business owners the benefit of a doubt.
Now about politics.... well John, we shall save that for another thread....
Sorry but you're about 180* off the mark.
JohnnyGinBlossom is a liar and a fraud. It's not a simple difference of opinion regarding foreign policy.
However, I do think that Burns actually enjoys most of the jabbing and intentionally gets his haters worked up. If it really bothered him, he’d just log off never come back like many of the ex-members have done.
I think you're exactly right. Along those lines, if people really wanted to get at Burns, they would ignore every thread he gets involved with. Irrelevance is the most feared fate of narcissists. Trading jabs makes him happy because folks are talking about him. Not difficult to figure out, but many keep taking the bait.
Wrong.
BoozeFace comes from an era when you could bullschit people and they would generally accept your bullschit. He and his ilk cannot accept that the internet doesn't allow for that in 2022. If you don't call people like him on their schit others will accept them as "experts" in their respective snake oil field. It emboldens them and they'll chatter on and on just as much as they do when arguing for themselves.
BoozeFace lies repeatedly and you can see that he is good at it. He will start with the tiniest fragment of a fact and try to tack on additional claims to it. If you don't catch it he feels like he's gaining something. If you call him on it he becomes enraged and will stay up for days on end justifying his false claims.
It's a very common trait among frauds and con men.
BoozeFace comes from an era when you could bullschit people and they would generally accept your bullschit. He and his ilk cannot accept that the internet doesn't allow for that in 2022. If you don't call people like him on their schit others will accept them as "experts" in their respective snake oil field. It emboldens them and they'll chatter on and on just as much as they do when arguing for themselves.
BoozeFace lies repeatedly and you can see that he is good at it. He will start with the tiniest fragment of a fact and try to tack on additional claims to it. If you don't catch it he feels like he's gaining something. If you call him on it he becomes enraged and will stay up for days on end justifying his false claims.
It's a very common trait among frauds and con men.
However, I do think that Burns actually enjoys most of the jabbing and intentionally gets his haters worked up. If it really bothered him, he’d just log off never come back like many of the ex-members have done.
I think you're exactly right. Along those lines, if people really wanted to get at Burns, they would ignore every thread he gets involved with. Irrelevance is the most feared fate of narcissists. Trading jabs makes him happy because folks are talking about him. Not difficult to figure out, but many keep taking the bait.
Wrong.
BoozeFace comes from an era when you could bullschit people and they would generally accept your bullschit. He and his ilk cannot accept that the internet doesn't allow for that in 2022. If you don't call people like him on their schit others will accept them as "experts" in their respective snake oil field. It emboldens them and they'll chatter on and on just as much as they do when arguing for themselves.
BoozeFace lies repeatedly and you can see that he is good at it. He will start with the tiniest fragment of a fact and try to tack on additional claims to it. If you don't catch it he feels like he's gaining something. If you call him on it he becomes enraged and will stay up for days on end justifying his false claims.
It's a very common trait among frauds and con men.
renegade 50, YEP! Your drunk Man child phony can nail jello to the wall. Don't know John Burns, but do know Deflave is a ASSWHOLE of the highest order. Rio7
renegade 50, YEP! Your drunk Man child phony can nail jello to the wall. Don't know John Burns, but do know Deflave is a ASSWHOLE of the highest order. Rio7
He is a douche. Hope you wore your mask like he demanded...
"Citing rising COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths, Wyoming Gov. Mark Gordon announced Monday a new statewide indoor face mask order, further restrictions on gathering sizes and reduced hours for certain businesses."
He is a douche. Hope you wore your mask like he demanded...
"Citing rising COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths, Wyoming Gov. Mark Gordon announced Monday a new statewide indoor face mask order, further restrictions on gathering sizes and reduced hours for certain businesses."
However, I do think that Burns actually enjoys most of the jabbing and intentionally gets his haters worked up. If it really bothered him, he’d just log off never come back like many of the ex-members have done.
I think you're exactly right. Along those lines, if people really wanted to get at Burns, they would ignore every thread he gets involved with. Irrelevance is the most feared fate of narcissists. Trading jabs makes him happy because folks are talking about him. Not difficult to figure out, but many keep taking the bait.
Wrong.
BoozeFace comes from an era when you could bullschit people and they would generally accept your bullschit. He and his ilk cannot accept that the internet doesn't allow for that in 2022. If you don't call people like him on their schit others will accept them as "experts" in their respective snake oil field. It emboldens them and they'll chatter on and on just as much as they do when arguing for themselves.
BoozeFace lies repeatedly and you can see that he is good at it. He will start with the tiniest fragment of a fact and try to tack on additional claims to it. If you don't catch it he feels like he's gaining something. If you call him on it he becomes enraged and will stay up for days on end justifying his false claims.
It's a very common trait among frauds and con men.
So what you're saying is he in fact did not help with the development of the 6.5 CM?
I guess I fail to see why Burns participates and promotes what goes on here in these threads.
As a business owner, I'd want prospective customers to see my company as solid, honest, customer service oriented, and perceived as an asset when owning one.
I fail to see the business sense in what Burns does here. While Wyoming Arms probably makes as good a product as the other guys, I sure wouldn't pay extra to own one.... In fact, quite the opposite. I'd see owning the brand name reducing the value of the item now.
If a man will lie about something, he'll lie about something else. It's not conducive to gaining trust in a company.
But whatever Burns wants to do is fine with me, since I don't plan on owning a WA firearm.. And I own and hunt with AR's just about exclusively now.
Once this schidt is on the internet, it ain't going away. It'll be around for years to come. If you don't think that impacts prospective customers, then think again.
I guess I fail to see why Burns participates and promotes what goes on here in these threads.
As a business owner, I'd want prospective customers to see my company as solid, honest, customer service oriented, and perceived as an asset when owning one.
I fail to see the business sense in what Burns does here. While Wyoming Arms probably makes as good a product as the other guys, I sure wouldn't pay extra to own one.... In fact, quite the opposite. I'd see owning the brand name reducing the value of the item now.
If a man will lie about something, he'll lie about something else. It's not conducive to gaining trust in a company.
But whatever Burns wants to do is fine with me, since I don't plan on owning a WA firearm.. And I own and hunt with AR's just about exclusively now.
Once this schidt is on the internet, it ain't going away. It'll be around for years to come. If you don't think that impacts prospective customers, then think again.
Simple explanation; because when you are a narcissistic individual with an inferiority complex to boot, you feel compelled to gain attention regardless of the consequences, in this case his business of selling overpriced, hideous looking rifles to gullible customers.
I guess I fail to see why Burns participates and promotes what goes on here in these threads.
As a business owner, I'd want prospective customers to see my company as solid, honest, customer service oriented, and perceived as an asset when owning one.
I fail to see the business sense in what Burns does here. While Wyoming Arms probably makes as good a product as the other guys, I sure wouldn't pay extra to own one.... In fact, quite the opposite. I'd see owning the brand name reducing the value of the item now.
If a man will lie about something, he'll lie about something else. It's not conducive to gaining trust in a company.
But whatever Burns wants to do is fine with me, since I don't plan on owning a WA firearm.. And I own and hunt with AR's just about exclusively now.
Once this schidt is on the internet, it ain't going away. It'll be around for years to come. If you don't think that impacts prospective customers, then think again.
I have seen it said here before, it's called capitalism. It cuts both ways.
He is a douche. Hope you wore your mask like he demanded...
"Citing rising COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths, Wyoming Gov. Mark Gordon announced Monday a new statewide indoor face mask order, further restrictions on gathering sizes and reduced hours for certain businesses."
That picture is from 2019 - pre CV
And he still uses it to brag, even after what his governor did...
renegade 50, YEP! Your drunk Man child phony can nail jello to the wall. Don't know John Burns, but do know Deflave is a ASSWHOLE of the highest order. Rio7
How’s daddy’s “ranch” holding up under all that foot traffic?
Got to drive 3 hrs home after a quick dinner, hopefully some epic reading awaits. Ballz is looking for sympathetic shoulders to cry on in the savage forums.
Got to drive 3 hrs home after a quick dinner, hopefully some epic reading awaits. Ballz is looking for sympathetic shoulders to cry on in the savage forums.
I actually like Roy in certain ways... he actually does something... sometimes... when not-thinking doesn't get in his way.
Burns on the other hand... is just plain fun.
It is rare to meet someone so FOS... and so desperate at the same time.
First game animals ever killed with the 6.5 Creed? Maybe it’s true, but I’d like to see the proof.
You think Creedmoor ammo and rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor were all over the place and others were already shooting elk and coyotes with hunting bullets loaded by Hornady in a factory?
The 6.5 Creedmoor was first developed for an across the course match round.
The first match rifle chambered for the 6.5 Creedmoor was chambered by my gunsmith, Score High. Hornady sent him their ORIGINAL REAMER to chamber a match rifle for my buddy who is a heavily sponsored shooter, who shoots for Hornady. They also sent cases of match ammo.
Maybe JB can confirm, but I’m guessing Hornady wanted to delve into the hunting market shortly after, and contacted him in a similar fashion, sent a reamer and handloaded ammunition with HUNTING BULLETS before the factory was producing them. He’s clearly stated that his help with the development of the round was on the hunting side, which only makes sense to anyone who can fuqcking read.
Burns doesn’t whine and can take and dish it out with the same fervor
Have you seen the video of him telling everyone he was gonna make bins ban them all?
Obviously my sarcasm isn’t what I thought, Of course I’ve seen the video.
Got ya. Unfortunately sarcasm doesn't translate well in written form. That's why I don't post more, I'm sarcastic as he'll. (Except this post. This post is serious).
First game animals ever killed with the 6.5 Creed? Maybe it’s true, but I’d like to see the proof.
You think Creedmoor ammo and rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor were all over the place and others were already shooting elk and coyotes with hunting bullets loaded by Hornady in a factory?
The 6.5 Creedmoor was first developed for an across the course match round.
The first match rifle chambered for the 6.5 Creedmoor was chambered by my gunsmith, Score High. Hornady sent him their ORIGINAL REAMER to chamber a match rifle for my buddy who is a heavily sponsored shooter, who shoots for Hornady. They also sent cases of match ammo.
Maybe JB can confirm, but I’m guessing Hornady wanted to delve into the hunting market shortly after, and contacted him in a similar fashion, sent a reamer and handloaded ammunition with HUNTING BULLETS before the factory was producing them. He’s clearly stated that his help with the development of the round was on the hunting side, which only makes sense to anyone who can fuqcking read.
So three paragraphs and a lot of anger, but you offer no proof of his claim that it was THE FIRST game animals taken with a rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor, just postulation and conjecture. Got it.
wages are being garnished from my dump job. He won, I lost.. My take home pay every two weeks is $184.82 cents But good news I found a package of socks un opened. Nugget
First game animals ever killed with the 6.5 Creed? Maybe it’s true, but I’d like to see the proof.
You think Creedmoor ammo and rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor were all over the place and others were already shooting elk and coyotes with hunting bullets loaded by Hornady in a factory?
The 6.5 Creedmoor was first developed for an across the course match round.
The first match rifle chambered for the 6.5 Creedmoor was chambered by my gunsmith, Score High. Hornady sent him their ORIGINAL REAMER to chamber a match rifle for my buddy who is a heavily sponsored shooter, who shoots for Hornady. They also sent cases of match ammo.
Maybe JB can confirm, but I’m guessing Hornady wanted to delve into the hunting market shortly after, and contacted him in a similar fashion, sent a reamer and handloaded ammunition with HUNTING BULLETS before the factory was producing them. He’s clearly stated that his help with the development of the round was on the hunting side, which only makes sense to anyone who can fuqcking read.
So three paragraphs and a lot of anger, but you offer no proof of his claim that it was THE FIRST game animals taken with a rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor, just postulation and conjecture. Got it.
Evidently posting facts confuses you with “a lot of anger” since it’s contrary to what you want to believe.
First game animals ever killed with the 6.5 Creed? Maybe it’s true, but I’d like to see the proof.
You think Creedmoor ammo and rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor were all over the place and others were already shooting elk and coyotes with hunting bullets loaded by Hornady in a factory?
The 6.5 Creedmoor was first developed for an across the course match round.
The first match rifle chambered for the 6.5 Creedmoor was chambered by my gunsmith, Score High. Hornady sent him their ORIGINAL REAMER to chamber a match rifle for my buddy who is a heavily sponsored shooter, who shoots for Hornady. They also sent cases of match ammo.
Maybe JB can confirm, but I’m guessing Hornady wanted to delve into the hunting market shortly after, and contacted him in a similar fashion, sent a reamer and handloaded ammunition with HUNTING BULLETS before the factory was producing them. He’s clearly stated that his help with the development of the round was on the hunting side, which only makes sense to anyone who can fuqcking read.
So three paragraphs and a lot of anger, but you offer no proof of his claim that it was THE FIRST game animals taken with a rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor, just postulation and conjecture. Got it.
Evidently posting facts confuses you with “a lot of anger” since it’s contrary to what you want to believe.
The little pack keeps nippin’ and whining…
Quote “I’m guessing Hornady…..”
Where are these facts you speak of? How about something other than your best guess.
First game animals ever killed with the 6.5 Creed? Maybe it’s true, but I’d like to see the proof.
You think Creedmoor ammo and rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor were all over the place and others were already shooting elk and coyotes with hunting bullets loaded by Hornady in a factory?
The 6.5 Creedmoor was first developed for an across the course match round.
The first match rifle chambered for the 6.5 Creedmoor was chambered by my gunsmith, Score High. Hornady sent him their ORIGINAL REAMER to chamber a match rifle for my buddy who is a heavily sponsored shooter, who shoots for Hornady. They also sent cases of match ammo.
Maybe JB can confirm, but I’m guessing Hornady wanted to delve into the hunting market shortly after, and contacted him in a similar fashion, sent a reamer and handloaded ammunition with HUNTING BULLETS before the factory was producing them. He’s clearly stated that his help with the development of the round was on the hunting side, which only makes sense to anyone who can fuqcking read.
That pic had to be taken somewhere around the time Ford introduced the Tempo and Poison was on the top 10. You still have 1 chin and that hogue stock is state of the art.
That pic had to be taken somewhere around the time Ford introduced the Tempo and Poison was on the top 10. You still have 1 chin and that hogue stock is state of the art.
It was not taken yesterday.
I have been doing this stuff for a long time, that's why I am so good.
That pic had to be taken somewhere around the time Ford introduced the Tempo and Poison was on the top 10. You still have 1 chin and that hogue stock is state of the art.
I might be mistaken, but I’ve never seen you hang a pic of yourself
That pic had to be taken somewhere around the time Ford introduced the Tempo and Poison was on the top 10. You still have 1 chin and that hogue stock is state of the art.
I might be mistaken, but I’ve never seen you hang a pic of yourself
That pic had to be taken somewhere around the time Ford introduced the Tempo and Poison was on the top 10. You still have 1 chin and that hogue stock is state of the art.
I might be mistaken, but I’ve never seen you hang a pic of yourself
It undoubtedly would be hilarious
I ain’t the prettiest mother fugker and might not be LGBTQ+ friendly like you, but I still have one chin.
That pic had to be taken somewhere around the time Ford introduced the Tempo and Poison was on the top 10. You still have 1 chin and that hogue stock is state of the art.
I might be mistaken, but I’ve never seen you hang a pic of yourself
It undoubtedly would be hilarious
I ain’t the prettiest mother fugker and might not be LGBTQ+ friendly like you, but I still have one chin.
That pic had to be taken somewhere around the time Ford introduced the Tempo and Poison was on the top 10. You still have 1 chin and that hogue stock is state of the art.
It was not taken yesterday.
I have been doing this stuff for a long time, that's why I am so good.
Well nugget got bad news, Burrough health inspector just looked at my trailer. I guess since its on burrough property its subject to search for health code violations. Well they cited me I have until Monday to fix it?? Anyone know a good lawyer, that will do pro bono?? Nugget not ready to sleep in a tent again in the tree line. Nugget
Down sydrome beard dude must be her brother and that makes more sense.
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Nice pic John... is that is the 178th time you have posted it?
You got any pics of you Gov.?
Maybe with small boys?
That would be awesome for the Web...
Or you?
Gin... baby Gin!
Same goes for you cash. Never seen you hang a pic of yourself hunting or other.
Do you have any or are you embarrassed to show the board?
Where’s your hunting pics? Other than that cute pic of you wearing your black olives matter shirt I don’t remember any. Hang one of you celebrating pride month at grandmas restaurant
Down sydrome beard dude must be her brother and that makes more sense.
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Nice pic John... is that is the 178th time you have posted it?
You got any pics of you Gov.?
Maybe with small boys?
That would be awesome for the Web...
Or you?
Gin... baby Gin!
Same goes for you cash. Never seen you hang a pic of yourself hunting or other.
Do you have any or are you embarrassed to show the board?
Where’s your hunting pics? Other than that cute pic of you wearing your black olives matter shirt I don’t remember any. Hang one of you celebrating pride month at grandmas restaurant
Maybe if you had something substantial to add to 24hr and posted in anything other than this clusterfuqk forum, you’d have seen.
Down sydrome beard dude must be her brother and that makes more sense.
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Nice pic John... is that is the 178th time you have posted it?
You got any pics of you Gov.?
Maybe with small boys?
That would be awesome for the Web...
Or you?
Gin... baby Gin!
Same goes for you cash. Never seen you hang a pic of yourself hunting or other.
Do you have any or are you embarrassed to show the board?
Where’s your hunting pics? Other than that cute pic of you wearing your black olives matter shirt I don’t remember any. Hang one of you celebrating pride month at grandmas restaurant
Maybe if you had something substantial to add to 24hr and posted in anything other than this clusterfuqk forum, you’d have seen.
Maybe if you had anything else to offer you wouldn’t be slinging pasta to queers in your granny’s restaurant either.
Down sydrome beard dude must be her brother and that makes more sense.
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Nice pic John... is that is the 178th time you have posted it?
You got any pics of you Gov.?
Maybe with small boys?
That would be awesome for the Web...
Or you?
Gin... baby Gin!
Same goes for you cash. Never seen you hang a pic of yourself hunting or other.
Do you have any or are you embarrassed to show the board?
Where’s your hunting pics? Other than that cute pic of you wearing your black olives matter shirt I don’t remember any. Hang one of you celebrating pride month at grandmas restaurant
Maybe if you had something substantial to add to 24hr and posted in anything other than this clusterfuqk forum, you’d have seen.
Maybe if you had anything else to offer you wouldn’t be slinging pasta to queers in your granny’s restaurant either.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Is paisano’s still LGBTQ+ friendly? LOL
Yes, we will welcome folks like you
Is Jack a Lesbian?
Down sydrome beard dude must be her brother and that makes more sense.
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Nice pic John... is that is the 178th time you have posted it?
You got any pics of you Gov.?
Maybe with small boys?
That would be awesome for the Web...
Or you?
Gin... baby Gin!
Same goes for you cash. Never seen you hang a pic of yourself hunting or other.
Do you have any or are you embarrassed to show the board?
Where’s your hunting pics? Other than that cute pic of you wearing your black olives matter shirt I don’t remember any. Hang one of you celebrating pride month at grandmas restaurant
Maybe if you had something substantial to add to 24hr and posted in anything other than this clusterfuqk forum, you’d have seen.
Maybe if you had anything else to offer you wouldn’t be slinging pasta to queers in your granny’s restaurant either.
Down sydrome beard dude must be her brother and that makes more sense.
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Nice pic John... is that is the 178th time you have posted it?
You got any pics of you Gov.?
Maybe with small boys?
That would be awesome for the Web...
Or you?
Gin... baby Gin!
Same goes for you cash. Never seen you hang a pic of yourself hunting or other.
Do you have any or are you embarrassed to show the board?
Where’s your hunting pics? Other than that cute pic of you wearing your black olives matter shirt I don’t remember any. Hang one of you celebrating pride month at grandmas restaurant
Maybe if you had something substantial to add to 24hr and posted in anything other than this clusterfuqk forum, you’d have seen.
I told you John... I will shoot you for pinks at 10 yards or 2k...
That is a REAL OFFER...
Bring that Wyoming Arms bullchit boy...
So you want a Wyoming Arms AR as many do.
You are going to have to round up some cash for the bet. Not some sad sack POS AR cobbled together from bottom tier parts.
Who the hell want that schiet. Litterally not worth the ammo to win.
Let me know when your have scrounged up enough pop cans to cover the cost of a Wyo Arms and when you will be out here in Wyoming and want a shot at besting the WIZARD.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
Don't be such a dick. That's getting into double wide level income.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
Don't be such a dick. That's getting into double wide level income.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
Don't be such a dick. That's getting into double wide level income.
Burns is a POS, but Im not going to knock a guy for what his income is. Kinda gauche. Well, more than kinda.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
Don't be such a dick. That's getting into double wide level income.
You didn’t see the double wide thread last week? Apparently they’re like $100k now.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
Don't be such a dick. That's getting into double wide level income.
Burns is a POS, but Im not going to knock a guy for what his income is. Kinda gauche. Well, more than kinda.
His business acumen was the point, not his income/wealth.
Bad enough LRoy Jetson did a photoshop hit job on my Colorado with the Wyoming Arms sticker.. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣
You guys leave Johnny alone, he has enough on his plate health problem wise per that latest photo of him on here to fret about.🤷♂️😔😔😔
He doesn't need a buncha peckerheads fugging with him on here. He just needs some buds on here for support... Johnny I am officially your bud now. Please forgive all my transgressions thrown your way by me in the past.
Still waiting on that case of 50 Rem accutip 20 ga 3" slugs. And I will remove that google reveiw of your place when I get em. I gotta stand on that one thing.
Just send em to Clarksville Guns and Archery. " For Joe Smith/ my new bud Ren50" You can google fu the addy. Remington site had em in stock last week. Grab a gun also. 10 boxes of 5 👍👍👍
Bad enough LRoy Jetson did a photoshop hit job on my Colorado with the Wyoming Arms sticker.. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣
You guys leave Johnny alone, he has enough on his plate health problem wise per that latest photo of him on here to fret about.🤷♂️😔😔😔
He doesn't need a buncha peckerheads fugging with him on here. He just needs some buds on here for support... Johnny I am officially your bud now. Please forgive all my transgressions thrown your way by me in the past.
Still waiting on that case of 50 Rem accutip 20 ga 3" slugs. And I will remove that google reveiw of your place when I get em. I gotta stand on that one thing.
Just send em to Clarksville Guns and Archery. " For Joe Smith/ my new bud Ren50" You can google fu the addy. Remington site had em in stock last week. Grab a gun also. 10 boxes of 5 👍👍👍
Bad enough LRoy Jetson did a photoshop hit job on my Colorado with the Wyoming Arms sticker.. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣
You guys leave Johnny alone, he has enough on his plate health problem wise per that latest photo of him on here to fret about.🤷♂️😔😔😔
He doesn't need a buncha peckerheads fugging with him on here. He just needs some buds on here for support... Johnny I am officially your bud now. Please forgive all my transgressions thrown your way by me in the past.
Still waiting on that case of 50 Rem accutip 20 ga 3" slugs. And I will remove that google reveiw of your place when I get em. I gotta stand on that one thing.
Just send em to Clarksville Guns and Archery. " For Joe Smith/ my new bud Ren50" You can google fu the addy. Remington site had em in stock last week. Grab a gun also. 10 boxes of 5 👍👍👍
👍👍👍🙋♂️🙂🙂
Dammm... Aside from the full blown alcky flush all over his face.
Wtf is that lumpy schit under his left nostril and under the center of his nose.
Feel sorry the guy in ways. Going downhill rapidly it looks like... I dont think he is older than me??? I'm 59 .
I figure Johnny is right around my age.
We need to be nice to Johnny. Pretty soon he is gonna be falling apart like Brundle flie.
Bad enough LRoy Jetson did a photoshop hit job on my Colorado with the Wyoming Arms sticker.. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣
You guys leave Johnny alone, he has enough on his plate health problem wise per that latest photo of him on here to fret about.🤷♂️😔😔😔
He doesn't need a buncha peckerheads fugging with him on here. He just needs some buds on here for support... Johnny I am officially your bud now. Please forgive all my transgressions thrown your way by me in the past.
Still waiting on that case of 50 Rem accutip 20 ga 3" slugs. And I will remove that google reveiw of your place when I get em. I gotta stand on that one thing.
Just send em to Clarksville Guns and Archery. " For Joe Smith/ my new bud Ren50" You can google fu the addy. Remington site had em in stock last week. Grab a gun also. 10 boxes of 5 👍👍👍
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
Don't be such a dick. That's getting into double wide level income.
Burns is a POS, but Im not going to knock a guy for what his income is. Kinda gauche. Well, more than kinda.
His business acumen was the point, not his income/wealth.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
Oh come on now you don't give JB enough credit. You take a $400.00 PSA AR stick a couple of $20.00 trinkets on it and resell for $2500.00, That's slightly more than 20% profit.......Just sayin'.
So Hornady decided that the first person they would send ammo loaded with hunting bullets to for testing would be some guy in Wyoming “building” AR’s out of a small corner of his successful buddies warehouse, by himself?
Yep, makes total sense… LMAO.
What’s the availability of Mental Health Professionals in WY looking like?
So Hornady decided that the first person they would send ammo loaded with hunting bullets to for testing would be some guy in Wyoming “building” AR’s out of a small corner of his successful buddies warehouse, by himself?
Yep, makes total sense… LMAO.
What’s the availability of Mental Health Professionals in WY looking like?
LOL.
Does that look like an AR Wayne was shooting?
Do you think Walt Berger had me write the VLD hunting section in his loading manual because of my extensive understanding of ARs?
I have been a pioneer on LR shooting game for 3 decades.
So Hornady decided that the first person they would send ammo loaded with hunting bullets to for testing would be some guy in Wyoming “building” AR’s out of a small corner of his successful buddies warehouse, by himself?
Yep, makes total sense… LMAO.
What’s the availability of Mental Health Professionals in WY looking like?
LOL.
Does that look like an AR Wayne was shooting?
Do you think Walt Berger had me write the VLD hunting section in his loading manual because of my extensive understanding of ARs?
I have been a pioneer on LR shooting game for 3 decades.
Extensive understanding of AR’s?! I spent 10 minutes watching a YouTube vid to put together a stripped lower with a LPK. I’ve seen 150 pc. puzzles that are twice as hard to put together. You’re a pioneer of drunken retard Internet forum posts.
So Hornady decided that the first person they would send ammo loaded with hunting bullets to for testing would be some guy in Wyoming “building” AR’s out of a small corner of his successful buddies warehouse, by himself?
Yep, makes total sense… LMAO.
What’s the availability of Mental Health Professionals in WY looking like?
LOL.
Does that look like an AR Wayne was shooting?
Do you think Walt Berger had me write the VLD hunting section in his loading manual because of my extensive understanding of ARs?
I have been a pioneer on LR shooting game for 3 decades.
How many names do you drop per post on Average? Kyle….Walt…..Wayne…..Mikey G……. What a Fugkin loser.
Do you think Walt Berger had me write the VLD hunting section in his loading manual because of my extensive understanding of ARs?
I have been a pioneer on LR shooting game for 3 decades.
Extensive understanding of AR’s?! I spent 10 minutes watching a YouTube vid to put together a stripped lower with a LPK. I’ve seen 150 pc. puzzles that are twice as hard to put together. You’re a pioneer of drunken retard Internet forum posts.
Guys like you keep things running at Wyoming Arms.
Do you think Walt Berger had me write the VLD hunting section in his loading manual because of my extensive understanding of ARs?
I have been a pioneer on LR shooting game for 3 decades.
Extensive understanding of AR’s?! I spent 10 minutes watching a YouTube vid to put together a stripped lower with a LPK. I’ve seen 150 pc. puzzles that are twice as hard to put together. You’re a pioneer of drunken retard Internet forum posts.
Guys like you keep things running at Wyoming Arms.
Jeff keeps Wyo Arms running. No way your gross sales come remotely close to covering your operating costs. You work at ChikFila on the side to pay the electric bill at your trailer?
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
What kinda jealous loser do you have to be to attack a guy about his business or income?
The last resort of the slanderer. All who happen to be so sackless, they use anonymous handles on this board so they can hide.
[bleep] pathetic. Love to see what happens with everyone in one room. 👍🏼
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
What kinda jealous loser do you have to be to attack a guy about his business or income?
The last resort of the slanderer. All who happen to be so sackless, they use anonymous handles on this board so they can hide.
[bleep] pathetic. Love to see what happens with everyone in one room. 👍🏼
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
What kinda jealous loser do you have to be to attack a guy about his business or income?
The last resort of the slanderer. All who happen to be so sackless, they use anonymous handles on this board so they can hide.
[bleep] pathetic. Love to see what happens with everyone in one room. 👍🏼
The story of the Berger Hunting VLD is a story of discovery rather than design. The VLD bullet design was created by ballistician Bill Davis. Bill’s goal was to produce a bullet design that performed better in the wind than the 30 cal 168 gr SMK. He was asked to do this by the US 300 meter shooting team, who had discovered that they were losing points late in the match due to recoil fatigue. They wanted a lighter bullet (less recoil) that would still fly with the same or better trajectory.
After Bill came up with the design he went to Walt Berger to make the bullets. Walt understood the vision of this concept and even though this bullet required a faster twist barrel than was readily available, Walt decided he would make these bullets. They were a huge success in that they had a much better trajectory than the 168 gr SMK, so the goal of this particular project was achieved and surpassed.
Slowly but surely word started to get out about the VLD concept. Shooters who cared about trajectories started ordering barrels and over the next several years the VLD popularity grew rapidly. From the beginning and to this day Berger Bullets makes only match grade bullets. For a very long time Sierra Bullets has communicated the message that you cannot hunt game with match bullets since this is true with their MatchKings. Since the Berger VLD is a match grade bullet, Walt Berger took the same position and recommended that shooter should not hunt with the match grade Berger VLD.
Over the years we would get reports from hunters who used the Berger VLD to take game of all sizes. We dismissed these reports as the exception rather than the rule and would tell these hunters that we do not recommend that they use them to hunt. Through the 90’s we tested several different concepts for a Berger “hunting” bullet, which had to meet two criteria. The first is that it had to retain at least 80% of its weight (since this was the conventional wisdom at the time), and the second was that it had to be capable of ¼ MOA in an equally capable rifle. We were not successful in meeting both goals in any of our tests.
As the century turned, we had all but given up on the notion that we could make a “hunting” bullet which was also match grade. In 2005 everything changed. While attending the SHOT Show we were approached by John Burns, who at the time was with The Best of the West TV show. He asked if we would be interested in sponsoring their hunting show. Walt replied “we don’t make a hunting bullet”. John’s response was, “Oh yes you do.”
John pulled out a portable DVD player and showed us 45 minutes of bang flop after bang flop. Being a long time hunter Walt was very impressed with how quickly the game was dropping in each of the hits. John relayed that each animal was taken with Berger VLD match grade bullets and that he’d taken or watched personally hundreds of big game taken with Berger VLD’s over the years.
Obviously, this got our attention, but we were not ready to jump in with both feet without personally testing this report and observing the results we’d been shown. Over the next year numerous tests were done in media using every caliber and every VLD bullet in our line. The results were consistent and led us to decide to try them on game ourselves. In 6 months we either shot or personally witnessed over 50 animals of various size being taken with the Berger VLD. Each animal acted in the same way as the animals in the video John showed us at the SHOT Show.
Sorta explains why Hornady sent me the first hunting ammo for the 6.5mm Creedmoor.
The story of the Berger Hunting VLD is a story of discovery rather than design. The VLD bullet design was created by ballistician Bill Davis. Bill’s goal was to produce a bullet design that performed better in the wind than the 30 cal 168 gr SMK. He was asked to do this by the US 300 meter shooting team, who had discovered that they were losing points late in the match due to recoil fatigue. They wanted a lighter bullet (less recoil) that would still fly with the same or better trajectory.
After Bill came up with the design he went to Walt Berger to make the bullets. Walt understood the vision of this concept and even though this bullet required a faster twist barrel than was readily available, Walt decided he would make these bullets. They were a huge success in that they had a much better trajectory than the 168 gr SMK, so the goal of this particular project was achieved and surpassed.
Slowly but surely word started to get out about the VLD concept. Shooters who cared about trajectories started ordering barrels and over the next several years the VLD popularity grew rapidly. From the beginning and to this day Berger Bullets makes only match grade bullets. For a very long time Sierra Bullets has communicated the message that you cannot hunt game with match bullets since this is true with their MatchKings. Since the Berger VLD is a match grade bullet, Walt Berger took the same position and recommended that shooter should not hunt with the match grade Berger VLD.
Over the years we would get reports from hunters who used the Berger VLD to take game of all sizes. We dismissed these reports as the exception rather than the rule and would tell these hunters that we do not recommend that they use them to hunt. Through the 90’s we tested several different concepts for a Berger “hunting” bullet, which had to meet two criteria. The first is that it had to retain at least 80% of its weight (since this was the conventional wisdom at the time), and the second was that it had to be capable of ¼ MOA in an equally capable rifle. We were not successful in meeting both goals in any of our tests.
As the century turned, we had all but given up on the notion that we could make a “hunting” bullet which was also match grade. In 2005 everything changed. While attending the SHOT Show we were approached by John Burns, who at the time was with The Best of the West TV show. He asked if we would be interested in sponsoring their hunting show. Walt replied “we don’t make a hunting bullet”. John’s response was, “Oh yes you do.”
John pulled out a portable DVD player and showed us 45 minutes of bang flop after bang flop. Being a long time hunter Walt was very impressed with how quickly the game was dropping in each of the hits. John relayed that each animal was taken with Berger VLD match grade bullets and that he’d taken or watched personally hundreds of big game taken with Berger VLD’s over the years.
Obviously, this got our attention, but we were not ready to jump in with both feet without personally testing this report and observing the results we’d been shown. Over the next year numerous tests were done in media using every caliber and every VLD bullet in our line. The results were consistent and led us to decide to try them on game ourselves. In 6 months we either shot or personally witnessed over 50 animals of various size being taken with the Berger VLD. Each animal acted in the same way as the animals in the video John showed us at the SHOT Show.
Sorta explains why Hornady sent me the first hunting ammo for the 6.5mm Creedmoor.
You approached Berger, they didn’t approach you. Congrats? LMFAO! What a loser.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
What kinda jealous loser do you have to be to attack a guy about his business or income?
The last resort of the slanderer. All who happen to be so sackless, they use anonymous handles on this board so they can hide.
[bleep] pathetic. Love to see what happens with everyone in one room. 👍🏼
Sweetheart, the last thing you’d ever want is to be in the same room with me running your lips.
The story of the Berger Hunting VLD is a story of discovery rather than design. The VLD bullet design was created by ballistician Bill Davis. Bill’s goal was to produce a bullet design that performed better in the wind than the 30 cal 168 gr SMK. He was asked to do this by the US 300 meter shooting team, who had discovered that they were losing points late in the match due to recoil fatigue. They wanted a lighter bullet (less recoil) that would still fly with the same or better trajectory.
After Bill came up with the design he went to Walt Berger to make the bullets. Walt understood the vision of this concept and even though this bullet required a faster twist barrel than was readily available, Walt decided he would make these bullets. They were a huge success in that they had a much better trajectory than the 168 gr SMK, so the goal of this particular project was achieved and surpassed.
Slowly but surely word started to get out about the VLD concept. Shooters who cared about trajectories started ordering barrels and over the next several years the VLD popularity grew rapidly. From the beginning and to this day Berger Bullets makes only match grade bullets. For a very long time Sierra Bullets has communicated the message that you cannot hunt game with match bullets since this is true with their MatchKings. Since the Berger VLD is a match grade bullet, Walt Berger took the same position and recommended that shooter should not hunt with the match grade Berger VLD.
Over the years we would get reports from hunters who used the Berger VLD to take game of all sizes. We dismissed these reports as the exception rather than the rule and would tell these hunters that we do not recommend that they use them to hunt. Through the 90’s we tested several different concepts for a Berger “hunting” bullet, which had to meet two criteria. The first is that it had to retain at least 80% of its weight (since this was the conventional wisdom at the time), and the second was that it had to be capable of ¼ MOA in an equally capable rifle. We were not successful in meeting both goals in any of our tests.
As the century turned, we had all but given up on the notion that we could make a “hunting” bullet which was also match grade. In 2005 everything changed. While attending the SHOT Show we were approached by John Burns, who at the time was with The Best of the West TV show. He asked if we would be interested in sponsoring their hunting show. Walt replied “we don’t make a hunting bullet”. John’s response was, “Oh yes you do.”
John pulled out a portable DVD player and showed us 45 minutes of bang flop after bang flop. Being a long time hunter Walt was very impressed with how quickly the game was dropping in each of the hits. John relayed that each animal was taken with Berger VLD match grade bullets and that he’d taken or watched personally hundreds of big game taken with Berger VLD’s over the years.
Obviously, this got our attention, but we were not ready to jump in with both feet without personally testing this report and observing the results we’d been shown. Over the next year numerous tests were done in media using every caliber and every VLD bullet in our line. The results were consistent and led us to decide to try them on game ourselves. In 6 months we either shot or personally witnessed over 50 animals of various size being taken with the Berger VLD. Each animal acted in the same way as the animals in the video John showed us at the SHOT Show.
Sorta explains why Hornady sent me the first hunting ammo for the 6.5mm Creedmoor.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
What kinda jealous loser do you have to be to attack a guy about his business or income?
The last resort of the slanderer. All who happen to be so sackless, they use anonymous handles on this board so they can hide.
[bleep] pathetic. Love to see what happens with everyone in one room. 👍🏼
Sweetheart, the last thing you’d ever want is to be in the same room with me running your lips.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
What kinda jealous loser do you have to be to attack a guy about his business or income?
The last resort of the slanderer. All who happen to be so sackless, they use anonymous handles on this board so they can hide.
[bleep] pathetic. Love to see what happens with everyone in one room. 👍🏼
Sweetheart, the last thing you’d ever want is to be in the same room with me running your lips.
Just an example of gov power run amok. Overzealous inspector who was running roughshod over every place in the city. I was the only guy who had balls enough to stand up to them.
He was fired and the entire department revamped after the ordeal.
$226,403 in gross revenues. I’ll be extremely generous and say 20% profit margin so $45,280.60 net profit. 5 employees? Median income in Cody Wy. is $32,027/year. I didn’t attend the Wharton School of Business, but…….
What kinda jealous loser do you have to be to attack a guy about his business or income?
The last resort of the slanderer. All who happen to be so sackless, they use anonymous handles on this board so they can hide.
[bleep] pathetic. Love to see what happens with everyone in one room. 👍🏼
Sweetheart, the last thing you’d ever want is to be in the same room with me running your lips.
As a guy that has done Pest Control professionally for 23 years and been in the chem business even longer, that one lies entirely on the operator of the pest business.
Roaches can be a problem in the cleanest of establishments from time to time as well.
Just an example of gov power run amok. Overzealous inspector who was running roughshod over every place in the city. I was the only guy who had balls enough to stand up to them.
He was fired and the entire department revamped after the ordeal.
As a guy that has done Pest Control professionally for 23 years and been in the chem business even longer, that one lies entirely on the operator of the pest business.
Roaches can be a problem in the cleanest of establishments from time to time as well.
To be 100% fair
They can live on a crumb for years.
Anyone who say’s they’ve never had one in their garage is a liar
Just an example of gov power run amok. Overzealous inspector who was running roughshod over every place in the city. I was the only guy who had balls enough to stand up to them.
He was fired and the entire department revamped after the ordeal.
Every place in the city wanted to buy me a medal.
Happy now? 😁
That's good to hear.
It was a battle. The city was inspecting places and immediately faxing all the tv news channels their reports. Every place in the city was getting slandered with no due process and on the news THAT NIGHT
They all rolled over.
I kicked the MF out of my place and immediately called the local conservative talk radio station and did a call in show with the NM Restaurant Association president. The restaurants calling in with the same experience with the rogue inspector were amazing
You approached Berger, they didn’t approach you. Congrats? LMFAO! What a loser.
I quite litterally changed the entire hunting bullet market.
All bullet makers offer High BC hunting designs because I convinced Berger to promote the VLD as a hunting bullet.
WIZARD.
jackmountain,
Burns is an arrogant prick, but he’s not lying about the whole Berger hunting bullet thing.
He might not have been the first guy to shoot big game LR, but sure as [bleep], he was the guy that dumped gasoline on the match. I remember seeing one of his hunts for the first time. Can’t remember if it was the TV show or a DVD I borrowed from someone. Anyway, I was pretty blown away by it all. Sure, LRFs we’re around, but 500 yards was still considered a damn long shot, and when hunters did engage, it was usually a multiple shot ordeal. He was killing stuff a twice that with one shot, DRT.
I was really impressive, honestly. Next thing you know, everyone and their dog was talking about Berger bullets, and it just kept going from there.
Unfortunately, that little bit of fame went right to his head. He started getting spray tans and was so full of himself he could hardly open his mouth without having an orgasm to the sound of his own voice. Next thing you know, he’s not on TV anymore. After that, he’s quit (via lawsuit) the bolt rifle business and is assembling ARs (yes, I said assembling). I saw a recent picture of him someone posted on here the other day. I thought it had to be photoshopped. I’d a bet a Wyoming Arms AR that he has pre-diabetes and cirrhosis of the liver.
Sad, but it’s the fate of so many celebrities that can’t handle their own fame.
There were no factory rifles chambered in 6.5mm CM.
To get some real world hunting testing done there was pretty much one place to go.
Me.
The point ? The point is, you're an arrogant prick. Quite obvious by the way you responded to my posts. And the point has been well covered. You had nothing to do with the cartridge's development.
Getting real world hunting results ain't nothin, lil man.
Burns is an arrogant prick, but he’s not lying about the whole Berger hunting bullet thing.
He might not have been the first guy to shoot big game LR, but sure as [bleep], he was the guy that dumped gasoline on the match. I remember seeing one of his hunts for the first time. Can’t remember if it was the TV show or a DVD I borrowed from someone. Anyway, I was pretty blown away by it all. Sure, LRFs we’re around, but 500 yards was still considered a damn long shot, and when hunters did engage, it was usually a multiple shot ordeal. He was killing stuff a twice that with one shot, DRT.
I was really impressive, honestly. Next thing you know, everyone and their dog was talking about Berger bullets, and it just kept going from there.
Unfortunately, that little bit of fame went right to his head. He started getting spray tans and was so full of himself he could hardly open his mouth without having an orgasm to the sound of his own voice. Next thing you know, he’s not on TV anymore. After that, he’s quit (via lawsuit) the bolt rifle business and is assembling ARs (yes, I said assembling). I saw a recent picture of him someone posted on here the other day. I thought it had to be photoshopped. I’d a bet a Wyoming Arms AR that he has pre-diabetes and cirrhosis of the liver.
Sad, but it’s the fate of so many celebrities that can’t handle their own fame.
Anyways, keep it classy.
LOL
So I did what I said I did but I am an arrogant prick for sayin I did what I said I did.
Burns is an arrogant prick, but he’s not lying about the whole Berger hunting bullet thing.
He might not have been the first guy to shoot big game LR, but sure as [bleep], he was the guy that dumped gasoline on the match. I remember seeing one of his hunts for the first time. Can’t remember if it was the TV show or a DVD I borrowed from someone. Anyway, I was pretty blown away by it all. Sure, LRFs we’re around, but 500 yards was still considered a damn long shot, and when hunters did engage, it was usually a multiple shot ordeal. He was killing stuff a twice that with one shot, DRT.
I was really impressive, honestly. Next thing you know, everyone and their dog was talking about Berger bullets, and it just kept going from there.
Unfortunately, that little bit of fame went right to his head. He started getting spray tans and was so full of himself he could hardly open his mouth without having an orgasm to the sound of his own voice. Next thing you know, he’s not on TV anymore. After that, he’s quit (via lawsuit) the bolt rifle business and is assembling ARs (yes, I said assembling). I saw a recent picture of him someone posted on here the other day. I thought it had to be photoshopped. I’d a bet a Wyoming Arms AR that he has pre-diabetes and cirrhosis of the liver.
Sad, but it’s the fate of so many celebrities that can’t handle their own fame.
Anyways, keep it classy.
LOL
So I did what I said I did but I am an arrogant prick for sayin I did what I said I did.
Okay.
You never did nothing whiners can whine.
I thought I was actually being pretty complimentary.
Next to the guy who makes the gay pasta with a side of roach feces or whatever, that is about as ringing of an endorsement as you’ll get on the ‘fire.
Post your best bull that's much samller than the 13yr olds that you whined about.
Thanks.
Where’s the lie?
LOL.
Here is just a start.
Originally Posted by Lying Passive Bitch
Unfortunately, that little bit of fame went right to his head. He started getting spray tans and was so full of himself he could hardly open his mouth without having an orgasm to the sound of his own voice. Next thing you know, he’s not on TV anymore. After that, he’s quit (via lawsuit) the bolt rifle business and is assembling ARs (yes, I said assembling).
Burns killed an elk a long way away, filmed it and then more people thought it was a good idea and started shooting at elk a long way away. That about the gist of it?
Camuglia, Eating bugs to combat climate change is actually being promoted now, so you were way ahead of your time. Between that and choosing to designate as LGBTQ+ friendly, you're a true social justice warrior. https://time.com/5942290/eat-insects-save-planet/
The story of the Berger Hunting VLD is a story of discovery rather than design. The VLD bullet design was created by ballistician Bill Davis. Bill’s goal was to produce a bullet design that performed better in the wind than the 30 cal 168 gr SMK. He was asked to do this by the US 300 meter shooting team, who had discovered that they were losing points late in the match due to recoil fatigue. They wanted a lighter bullet (less recoil) that would still fly with the same or better trajectory.
After Bill came up with the design he went to Walt Berger to make the bullets. Walt understood the vision of this concept and even though this bullet required a faster twist barrel than was readily available, Walt decided he would make these bullets. They were a huge success in that they had a much better trajectory than the 168 gr SMK, so the goal of this particular project was achieved and surpassed.
Slowly but surely word started to get out about the VLD concept. Shooters who cared about trajectories started ordering barrels and over the next several years the VLD popularity grew rapidly. From the beginning and to this day Berger Bullets makes only match grade bullets. For a very long time Sierra Bullets has communicated the message that you cannot hunt game with match bullets since this is true with their MatchKings. Since the Berger VLD is a match grade bullet, Walt Berger took the same position and recommended that shooter should not hunt with the match grade Berger VLD.
Over the years we would get reports from hunters who used the Berger VLD to take game of all sizes. We dismissed these reports as the exception rather than the rule and would tell these hunters that we do not recommend that they use them to hunt. Through the 90’s we tested several different concepts for a Berger “hunting” bullet, which had to meet two criteria. The first is that it had to retain at least 80% of its weight (since this was the conventional wisdom at the time), and the second was that it had to be capable of ¼ MOA in an equally capable rifle. We were not successful in meeting both goals in any of our tests.
As the century turned, we had all but given up on the notion that we could make a “hunting” bullet which was also match grade. In 2005 everything changed. While attending the SHOT Show we were approached by John Burns, who at the time was with The Best of the West TV show. He asked if we would be interested in sponsoring their hunting show. Walt replied “we don’t make a hunting bullet”. John’s response was, “Oh yes you do.”
John pulled out a portable DVD player and showed us 45 minutes of bang flop after bang flop. Being a long time hunter Walt was very impressed with how quickly the game was dropping in each of the hits. John relayed that each animal was taken with Berger VLD match grade bullets and that he’d taken or watched personally hundreds of big game taken with Berger VLD’s over the years.
Obviously, this got our attention, but we were not ready to jump in with both feet without personally testing this report and observing the results we’d been shown. Over the next year numerous tests were done in media using every caliber and every VLD bullet in our line. The results were consistent and led us to decide to try them on game ourselves. In 6 months we either shot or personally witnessed over 50 animals of various size being taken with the Berger VLD. Each animal acted in the same way as the animals in the video John showed us at the SHOT Show.
Sorta explains why Hornady sent me the first hunting ammo for the 6.5mm Creedmoor.
He might not have been the first guy to shoot big game LR, but sure as [bleep], he was the guy that dumped gasoline on the match. I remember seeing one of his hunts for the first time. Can’t remember if it was the TV show or a DVD I borrowed from someone. Anyway, I was pretty blown away by it all. Sure, LRFs we’re around, but 500 yards was still considered a damn long shot, and when hunters did engage, it was usually a multiple shot ordeal. He was killing stuff a twice that with one shot, DRT.
Gamblers never talk about their losses and Johnny MIC'Gutshot never talks about the animals he wounds.
Post your best bull that's much samller than the 13yr olds that you whined about.
Thanks.
Where’s the lie?
LOL.
Here is just a start.
Originally Posted by Lying Passive Bitch
Unfortunately, that little bit of fame went right to his head. He started getting spray tans and was so full of himself he could hardly open his mouth without having an orgasm to the sound of his own voice. Next thing you know, he’s not on TV anymore. After that, he’s quit (via lawsuit) the bolt rifle business and is assembling ARs (yes, I said assembling).
Johnny Gin Blossom:
I thought about posting a pic of a bull I killed.
Then I thought, WWTGJGBD? (What would the great Johnny Gin Blossom do?)
Obviously, post up pics of a 13 year old boy.
Then I looked at my camera roll and realized I don’t have pictures of any 13 year old boys.
I'd think someone flogging $3k AR's would be posting over at AR15.com. Guess I'm missing something.
"Someone" got banned on ar15, for bein hisself.
For a lying suck azz you actually got something right.
I had a fun run on ARFCOM and poured a metric schiet tonne of sand in VJs plus Mark Larue got banned from GD over the thread where he tried to keep pace with me.
The knives were out.
And that's why Ricks Island for Misfits is special.
Does someone as fat and shiny as you have trouble getting closer?
Not really.
Iron sights on a revolver..
Post a public ground bull.
Big Belly Deep Bitch sure won't play.
Pretty sure you will bitch out.
Was that the Carter years, or Reagan’s first term? You couldn’t fit one leg in those pants now.
Johnny has to go back 30 years. Otherwise, his pics are of 13 year old boys, and if he posts up any of his other 13 year old boy pics, the FBI will be serving a no-knock warrant faster than Johnny can get a boner looking at a picture of Beaver Cleaver. So that’s not gonna happen.
I love this thread... how yall are letting a blowhard live in your heads is as entertaining as the meme thread... burns is FOS an a narcissist sure but he does have some pics an proof an can talk smack. An it drives the karens batschit crazy lol.
I love this thread... how yall are letting a blowhard live in your heads is as entertaining as the meme thread... burns is FOS an a narcissist sure but he does have some pics an proof an can talk smack. An it drives the karens batschit crazy lol.
I love this thread... how yall are letting a blowhard live in your heads is as entertaining as the meme thread... burns is FOS an a narcissist sure but he does have some pics an proof an can talk smack. An it drives the karens batschit crazy lol.
OMG! What does ISW say about this? Maybe "Russian troop morale very low". 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
LOL. I am far from a Milley fan but he said Ukraine driving the Orc out of their land was unlikely "in the short term". That pretty true. Some of us play the long game.
Make sure I got this.
So, the Whiz-tard's prediction is that the Ukraine will drive the Russians out of the Donbas? And Crimea?
I love this thread... how yall are letting a blowhard live in your heads is as entertaining as the meme thread... burns is FOS an a narcissist sure but he does have some pics an proof an can talk smack. An it drives the karens batschit crazy lol.
I think you have that wrong...
John is much worse than a FOS narcissist...
He is WIZARD.
Far from it...
The more you speak... the more your desperation for relevance shows.
That "click" was the sound ya heard when ar15 seal-clubbed your ass offa the site.
The liquor and Nyquil fever dream was the cause. Not threatening to snipe other forum members using bump stocks in an area where he was "hunting".
I'm done with this schit show of a thread. To the OP, if you're still reading, save yourself a ton of cash and have John at WOA build your upper. He may not kill stuff at 1000 yards, but he has a pretty impressive track record at Camp Perry.
Good post, it is hard to point out to you just how irrelevant you are, but you do know you are...
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Flashlights, did some one whine about Flashlight? I have to admit, I'm quite handsome as this picture of me shows. I do see how all my friends want me for a turkey decoy. I am not sure it is becase I am such a jerk, or if it it the red head.
He first blinded it with the flashlight then wrung it's neck. No need to waste ammo when you have the tac light. Gun would probably have jammed anyway.
I know, you probably use the weapon light in case the turkey & deer are hiding in caves, just like you use 7 fasteners on the riser in case 6 of them break. 😅😂
John, you are entertaining in a idiotic way. I'd never buy schitt from you, but you are good for a laugh, proving that no one is completely worthless.
I know, you probably use the weapon light in case the turkey & deer are hiding in caves, just like you use 7 fasteners on the riser in case 6 of them break. 😅😂
Not much better tests durability than having it on hunting.
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business. Have you bothered to Google yourself? The majority of the hits come back here where it is people belittling you while you make outlandish claims and post up pictures of other people that you find around the internet. Is this how you want to be known in your business? As an abrasive donkey who can't even discuss his products without referencing to yourself in childish ways or just acting like a special needs person. Do you have a partner in this business? Does he know the damage you are doing and the customers you run off by being yourself on a web forum? And you call yourself the Wizard??? The Wizard of what exactly?? Are you 6 years old or something. Look at the actual pictures of yourself that you posted. You seriously want to get into arguments about how tactical you are and who you trained?? You seriously are either very immature or not playing with a full deck. I almost feel bad for you but then you make another asinine post and realize you bring it upon yourself.
F-U-C-K dude, you need to take an inwards look at yourself. I would shoot myself if I googled my name and got results like you have.
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business. Have you bothered to Google yourself? The majority of the hits come back here where it is people belittling you while you make outlandish claims and post up pictures of other people that you find around the internet. Is this how you want to be known in your business? As an abrasive donkey who can't even discuss his products without referencing to yourself in childish ways or just acting like a special needs person. Do you have a partner in this business? Does he know the damage you are doing and the customers you run off by being yourself on a web forum? And you call yourself the Wizard??? The Wizard of what exactly?? Are you 6 years old or something. Look at the actual pictures of yourself that you posted. You seriously want to get into arguments about how tactical you are and who you trained?? You seriously are either very immature or not playing with a full deck. I almost feel bad for you but then you make another asinine post and realize you bring it upon yourself.
F-U-C-K dude, you need to take an inwards look at yourself. I would shoot myself if I googled my name and got results like you have.
You are not seriously expecting that clown to actually read that, are you?
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business. Have you bothered to Google yourself? The majority of the hits come back here where it is people belittling you while you make outlandish claims and post up pictures of other people that you find around the internet. Is this how you want to be known in your business? As an abrasive donkey who can't even discuss his products without referencing to yourself in childish ways or just acting like a special needs person. Do you have a partner in this business? Does he know the damage you are doing and the customers you run off by being yourself on a web forum? And you call yourself the Wizard??? The Wizard of what exactly?? Are you 6 years old or something. Look at the actual pictures of yourself that you posted. You seriously want to get into arguments about how tactical you are and who you trained?? You seriously are either very immature or not playing with a full deck. I almost feel bad for you but then you make another asinine post and realize you bring it upon yourself.
F-U-C-K dude, you need to take an inwards look at yourself. I would shoot myself if I googled my name and got results like you have.
Search results are fun but your butt hurt over me callling your lying azz out about being a SEAL is even funnier.
You lied about being a SEAL and won't know who's is in the picture.
He has bought and paid for several Wyoming Arms gun and owns a Winkler Tomahawk.
You should have let it drop.
What BUDs class number, liar Kirk?
Why are you the only SEAL in the Navy that does not know to capitalize SEAL.
Originally Posted by KSMITH from 1/24/2008
The Navy has almost as many people on land right now than on ships. They call it Individual Augmentees not to mention Seals, EOD, Seabees and grey fox operators. Not to mention all of the FMF corpmen. Not many people realize that we aren't just a bunch of swabbies sitting in an air conditioned space at sea. No matter what your rate or how good you are at your job, you can be shipped over to Iraq, AF or those other places with a quickness. I think I am safe for a while. Though I would have no heartache with going back.
Why were you trying to sell your M-4 Bushmaster at the same time you claimed you were rolling in Rahmadi with Jocko Willink and TU Bruiser? Love that you included 8 30rnd "CLIPS".
Originally Posted by KSMITH from 8/15/2006
I would like to sell my Bushmaster M-4 Patrolman. It comes with 8 aluminum 30 rounds clips, Specter CQB sling, Bushmaster hard case and a few hundred rounds of 5.56. There are some dark spots on the barrel where I laid it on a chair and a cup holder melted. It grows fainter and fainter each time I shoot it and I have never tried to clean it off. Pics make the gun look beat up but it is relatively new, I have owned it less than 6 months. The gun has no blemishes aside from the barrel. I would like 850.00 shipped. [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business.
John bribes and blows guys like you so he can get recommended to their active duty buddies. He doesn't own the company, he's just a machinist & fluffer.
Renegade went over the sales model pretty thoroughly. Purchases are made through the discretionary budgets.
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business.
John bribes and blows guys like you so he can get recommended to their active duty buddies. He doesn't own the company, he's just a machinist & fluffer.
Renegade went over the sales model pretty thoroughly. Purchases are made through the discretionary budgets.
Guy is freaking delusional. Now he knows Jocko's deployment dates to discern when I may have been around him. I wonder how his boss feels about the way he represents himself and HIS company on the internet? It can't be good for business.
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business.
John bribes and blows guys like you so he can get recommended to their active duty buddies. He doesn't own the company, he's just a machinist & fluffer.
Renegade went over the sales model pretty thoroughly. Purchases are made through the discretionary budgets.
Guy is freaking delusional. Now he knows Jocko's deployment dates to discern when I may have been around him. I wonder how his boss feels about the way he represents himself and HIS company on the internet? It can't be good for business.
You gotta admit, it’d be nice to have a wizard working for you.
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business.
John bribes and blows guys like you so he can get recommended to their active duty buddies. He doesn't own the company, he's just a machinist & fluffer.
Renegade went over the sales model pretty thoroughly. Purchases are made through the discretionary budgets.
It's sort of amazing how envious posters will simply lie when they think they are safe behind a keyboard.
There was a theory floated that he was intentionally trying to tank it. Like when you have an employee that won’t quit, but intentionally sucks so bad they try to get themselves fired so they can collect unemployment.
Deflave contacted Mike Glover and laid out the stuff he was posting after the Uvalde thread, and Glover or one of his folks told Burnsy to STFU.
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business.
John bribes and blows guys like you so he can get recommended to their active duty buddies. He doesn't own the company, he's just a machinist & fluffer.
Renegade went over the sales model pretty thoroughly. Purchases are made through the discretionary budgets.
Guy is freaking delusional. Now he knows Jocko's deployment dates to discern when I may have been around him. I wonder how his boss feels about the way he represents himself and HIS company on the internet? It can't be good for business.
It's recorded history when Willink and TU Bruiser were in Ramahdi.
It's on record you claimed to be a SEAL with Willink fighting in Ramahdi.
Taking Stolen Valor Azzwipes to task is very good for buisness.
There was a theory floated that he was intentionally trying to tank it. Like when you have an employee that won’t quit, but intentionally sucks so bad they try to get themselves fired so they can collect unemployment.
Deflave contacted Mike Glover and laid out the stuff he was posting after the Uvalde thread, and Glover or one of his folks told Burnsy to STFU.
Another proven lying envious poster.
Give the class any proof anyone has ever told me to STFU.
I got texts from Glover yesterday about suppresssors he is testing for me and will be meeting up next week before CanCon.
It's sad how a few envoius posters feel free just make up lies here on the Campfire because they feel hidden on the net but that's the price of addmission to the Campfire.
The lying posters pack up and try and sell their lies to the Campfire but once you are proven to be a liar even here at the Campfire it will stick.
There was a theory floated that he was intentionally trying to tank it. Like when you have an employee that won’t quit, but intentionally sucks so bad they try to get themselves fired so they can collect unemployment.
Deflave contacted Mike Glover and laid out the stuff he was posting after the Uvalde thread, and Glover or one of his folks told Burnsy to STFU.
Another proven lying envious poster.
Give the class any proof anyone has ever told me to STFU.
I got texts from Glover yesterday about suppresssors he is testing for me and will be meeting up next week before CanCon.
It's sad how a few envoius posters feel free just make up lies here on the Campfire because they feel hidden on the net but that's the price of addmission to the Campfire.
The lying posters pack up and try and sell their lies to the Campfire but once you are proven to be a liar even here at the Campfire it will stick.
Anyone who wants to take the time can go back to the uvalde thread where you were running your yap until deflave said he was gonna talk to your "friends". Then you took a two month hiatus from posting and came back with that nonsense about "mules know".
Which ended when you lied about another poster never having been on a mule until he showed you pics of him on a mule.
Anyone who wants to take the time can go back to the uvalde thread where you were running your yap until deflave said he was gonna talk to your "friends". Then you took a two month hiatus from posting and came back with that nonsense about "mules know".
Which ended when you lied about another poster never having been on a mule until he showed you pics of him on a mule.
LOL.
Tactical Travis would not last long in my group of friends and none of them ever told me to STFU. He, like you, is a well know proven liar here on the Campfire and has packed his bags in shame.
Post exact qoutes not your shitbag lies.
But you won't because lying liars lie while hiding behind their keyboard.
Anyone who wants to take the time can go back to the uvalde thread where you were running your yap until deflave said he was gonna talk to your "friends". Then you took a two month hiatus from posting and came back with that nonsense about "mules know".
Which ended when you lied about another poster never having been on a mule until he showed you pics of him on a mule.
LOL.
Tactical Travis would not last long in my group of friends and none of them ever told me to STFU. He, like you, is a well know proven liar here on the Campfire and has packed his bags in shame.
Post exact qoutes not your shitbag lies.
But you won't because lying liars lie while hiding behind their keyboard.
This is the second time you've called me a liar. The first time, I posted the quote you asked for, and you ran from that thread like the insecure fraud you are.
Everything I said in that post is accurate. All you have is name calling.
Anyone who wants to take the time can go back to the uvalde thread where you were running your yap until deflave said he was gonna talk to your "friends". Then you took a two month hiatus from posting and came back with that nonsense about "mules know".
Which ended when you lied about another poster never having been on a mule until he showed you pics of him on a mule.
LOL.
Tactical Travis would not last long in my group of friends and none of them ever told me to STFU. He, like you, is a well know proven liar here on the Campfire and has packed his bags in shame.
Post exact qoutes not your shitbag lies.
But you won't because lying liars lie while hiding behind their keyboard.
This is the second time you've called me a liar. The first time, I posted the quote you asked for, and you ran from that thread like the insecure fraud you are.
Everything I said in that post is accurate. All you have is name calling.
Anyone who wants to take the time can go back to the uvalde thread where you were running your yap until deflave said he was gonna talk to your "friends". Then you took a two month hiatus from posting and came back with that nonsense about "mules know".
Which ended when you lied about another poster never having been on a mule until he showed you pics of him on a mule.
LOL.
Tactical Travis would not last long in my group of friends and none of them ever told me to STFU. He, like you, is a well know proven liar here on the Campfire and has packed his bags in shame.
Post exact qoutes not your shitbag lies.
But you won't because lying liars lie while hiding behind their keyboard.
This is the second time you've called me a liar. The first time, I posted the quote you asked for, and you ran from that thread like the insecure fraud you are.
Everything I said in that post is accurate. All you have is name calling.
Someone bumped the bor tac thread to make it easy for anyone with a lot of time to see who's lying.
Post the qoutes lying liar, but you won't because you lie as easy as breathing.
Here is how it done.
Let's see if I can provide a little bit of Saturday entertainment and a clinic on calling out liars with actual quotes of the lies.
Will just start with just one single post in the Russian Beheading Thread but KSTOLENVALOR has been riding his fake SEAL schtick for a while.
Here is his whole long rambling post before I break down the many lies in just this one single post.
Originally Posted by KSMITH From 4/19/2023
Shawn(runt) and Jocko are pretty decent people from the little bit of time around them. I put Shawn through a course and worked for Jocko in Iraq for three months in Ramadi. I was part of a task force and he needed more shooters so me and 2 other guys drove up to support him. He was very aware of everything and everyone around him. Nobody went outside the wire without your body armor as long as he was in command. Constantly yelling, "wear your armor". I imagine he saved quite a few lives. I know he saved mine because I was not a fan of side and back plates and only wore my helmet when I wore NODs. In fact, I couldn't wear my side plate when working with the Army or JTAC. We had to wear a SINGERS radio which went on your right side, high. The more you used it, the hotter it would get. Every strike resulted in one degree of burn on your side. I was a quick study and figured out I needed to stay on the long gun than carry that radio. I actually used to put gauze pads soaked in silvadene on my side before putting on that radio.
Some guys on Red squadron were given Winkler Tomahawks by Capt Howard. The morons took them on ONE deployment because we had some very poor leadership at the time. You have to understand, officers don't go through selection or green team. They just do their tour of 2 years and go away. Some don't make it 2 years. Which is why McRaven had an axe to grind with DEVGRU, he was booted. The operators at Dam Neck are almost entirely enlisted. The only exceptions are the ones who convert to officer or CWO and they are usually put in another capacity such as running green team, training or ops. So yeah, some guys had tomahawks for a partial tour. When the desecration thing became a thing, it was stopped. Immediately. To be honest, it was too late by then. Our investigation had found out about a lot of issues that had been going on and permitted by senior leadership. After that tour, a large chunk of SEAL leadership had a week long conference where some new ground rules were put in place and a lot of senior enlisted and officer leadership were sent home or back to the Teams.
There is no professional reason to carry a tomahawk and the the unintended consequences of permitting guys to carry them is that they will try to use them or utilize them to desecrate bodies. We are not in that business whatsoever. It doesn't align with the consummate professionalism that we are held to. I will tell you for a fact, there are very, very few instances justifying you to pull your knife to take a life. We are issued and train to be experts with our long arms and assault rifles. If you need to pull your pistol, you have screwed up along with 2 or 3 members of your group. You have to understand how hard it can be just to engage a guy because everyone is so fast and smooth, they will beat you to your shot. If you go dry, there are at minimum 2 guys deep already on target ready to take that shot. During an assault, you simply don't have time or the need to pull your sidearm. By this point in your career, you can dump and load in about 2 seconds or less. We used to drill to pull your pistol when you assault weapon went dry during a double tap but you get to a point where the sidearm is just an emergency weapon. Yes there are guys who strive to get a knife kill and they will usually get one by putting themselves in danger or their Team. Or sadly, finishing a wounded combatant. Those people have something wrong in their DNA and are for the most part, weeded out. Their desire to kill a guy with their knife does not out weigh my right to life.
Navy SEALs are supposed to be professional special operators. There should never be any psychotic desire to spill blood or desecrate bodies. We do what we are trained to do without hesitation and ferocity but never blood thirsty. Even though the enemy just tried to hack off my best friends head on the top of some schitty mountain. Everyone should have tightened up and let their hatred out of the enemy on the battlefield and respected them once they were dead. If you are the type of person who let their emotions control their actions, you are in the wrong job. Unfortunately, senior leadership at that command permitted a bunch of MEN regress into immaturity. That particular squadron had many failings. They read a fictional book and took it as fact. Their squadron name was the Redmen, not the Indians as some fat turd here referenced them. The idiots went and got Apache Indian tattoos and started believing they were fawking Indians....and their leadership permitted it. No, encouraged it or turned a blind eye. Well, that BS reached the wrong ears, an admiral they tossed out of their group years prior and it was brought to an end. No one in the Navy is not and have not carried a tomahawk into battle except for 40 some days into a deployment. The tomahawks should have been meant to be a symbol or their mascot and namesake. Instead, a POS Captain was seeking inclusion into a group he knew he could never be in and brought a schitstorm into Naval Special Warfare. A lot of careers were lost and some of the offenders are now making tons of money telling lies and being giant POS.
I made my point. If anyone is wondering, I was an 18Delta, (maybe equivalent to a paramedic but a bit more), Sniper, and occasional assaulter. I tried to go dog handler but because of GWOT, I kept having to deploy or other schools. I assisted in developing the Navy SARC, Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsman, and still train the guys in the pipeline. However, I do very little in the medical side and work the shooting and electronic side getting them ready for @#$%#^ which I believe is still a classified capability. I personally do not really enjoy the medical side anymore but instruct certain aspects of it. I am proud to say that when these guys finish their training, they can perform minor surgeries in the field, put a few hot ones in an enemies ass, shoot 1k yards minimum, free fall, dive with the best and run their asses off all day long. The military is changing. The Marines are changing. Warfare is changing. Mark my words, the Marines are going to break down to platoons size and deploy with multiple small units that are spread out. Special Forces in general will be the norm of the future. You got a motivated kid that wants to serve at least 10 years? Send them to SARC school. We will make them a better human being in this world with very impressive capabilities.
Lets begin with his lies and Stolen Valor.
Originally Posted by KSMITH From 4/19/2023
Shawn(runt) and Jocko are pretty decent people from the little bit of time around them. I put Shawn through a course and worked for Jocko in Iraq for three months in Ramadi. I was part of a task force and he needed more shooters so me and 2 other guys drove up to support him.
Jocko Willink was a West Coast SEAL officer with Team 3 and led Task Unit Bruiser in Ramadi. This was a very famous deployment for the white side SEAL Teams.
KSTOVLENVALOR give more in his diatribe about why SEALs like him would never have a Tomahawk.
Originally Posted by KSTOLENVALOR
We are not in that business whatsoever. It doesn't align with the consummate professionalism that we are held to. I will tell you for a fact, there are very, very few instances justifying you to pull your knife to take a life. We are issued and train to be experts with our long arms and assault rifles. If you need to pull your pistol, you have screwed up along with 2 or 3 members of your group. You have to understand how hard it can be just to engage a guy because everyone is so fast and smooth, they will beat you to your shot. If you go dry, there are at minimum 2 guys deep already on target ready to take that shot. During an assault, you simply don't have time or the need to pull your sidearm. By this point in your career, you can dump and load in about 2 seconds or less. We used to drill to pull your pistol when you assault weapon went dry during a double tap but you get to a point where the sidearm is just an emergency weapon.
Yet again KSTOLENVALOR claiming to be a SEAL and having fought with Jocko Willink in Ramadi which was in the middle of 2006.
Originally Posted by KSTOLENVALOR
Navy SEALs are supposed to be professional special operators. There should never be any psychotic desire to spill blood or desecrate bodies. We do what we are trained to do without hesitation and ferocity but never blood thirsty. Even though the enemy just tried to hack off my best friends head on the top of some schitty mountain. Everyone should have tightened up and let their hatred out of the enemy on the battlefield and respected them once they were dead.
This paragraph is simply amazing at the number of lies.
1. 18Delta is an Army Special Forces medic, not a Navy SEAL. There is no 18Delta in the Navy.
2. KSTOLENVALOR was a Navy deck hand and has posted many times about his service on carriers. Nothing wrong with that but there is with lying about being a SEAL. I now doubt anything KSTOLENVALOR has posted was actually true as like a few other here he lies like it's breathing.
Originally Posted by KSTOLENVALOR
I made my point. If anyone is wondering, I was an 18Delta, (maybe equivalent to a paramedic but a bit more), Sniper, and occasional assaulter. I tried to go dog handler but because of GWOT, I kept having to deploy or other schools. I assisted in developing the Navy SARC, Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsman, and still train the guys in the pipeline. However, I do very little in the medical side and work the shooting and electronic side getting them ready for @#$%#^ which I believe is still a classified capability.[/qoute]
Here are a few posts when KSTOLENVALOR claimed he was in Ramadi fighting along side Jocko Willink in middle 2006.
[quote=KSMITH] from 2/14/2006]Back in November I shot an 8 pointer during muzzleloader season on land leased by my hunting club. The shot didn't immediately kill the deer and we were unable to recover the buck. Three weeks later, a few guys were rabbit hunting and found the buck, took the antlers and gave them to me. Due to being a real unique looking rack, I decided to have them mounted but the taxidermist said I needed to contact the game warden and get a tag for them. Like an idiot, I contacted a warden and he was happy to come right over. Instead of a tag, he issued me a summons to appear in court and confiscated the antlers. The summons states illegal possesion of deer antlers.
Needless to say, I was blown away. I was trying to do the right thing and got hammered and lost a really nice rack. I explained that the deer was decomposed at the time and never would have dreamed that you are required to check rotten deer. The warden was basically a robot with a bunch of preprogrammed responses. I called his captain and he said the guy probably should have issued me a warning and a tag for the deer but that he could not get involved.
Worst part is, I have a really bad taste in my mouth for VA game wardens now. If I knew someone was killing 100 deer a day I wouldn't report it for fear of being implicated by the warden.
What do you guys think?
Originally Posted by KSMITH from 4/30/2006
Can be yours for 15.00 shipped.
this one is fun as a SEAL operator does not no the difference between a clip and a magazine.
Originally Posted by KSMITH from 8/15/2006
I would like to sell my Bushmaster M-4 Patrolman. It comes with 8 aluminum 30 rounds clips, Specter CQB sling, Bushmaster hard case and a few hundred rounds of 5.56. There are some dark spots on the barrel where I laid it on a chair and a cup holder melted. It grows fainter and fainter each time I shoot it and I have never tried to clean it off. Pics make the gun look beat up but it is relatively new, I have owned it less than 6 months. The gun has no blemishes aside from the barrel. I would like 850.00 shipped. [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
And now we get to where the only SEAL in the entire US Navy does not know SEAL is always capitalized and explains how he was an Individual Augmentee but now claims on the campfire to be a Navy SEAL who fought with Jocko Willink in Ramadi.
Originally Posted by KSMITH from 1/24/2008
The Navy has almost as many people on land right now than on ships. They call it Individual Augmentees not to mention Seals, EOD, Seabees and grey fox operators. Not to mention all of the FMF corpmen. Not many people realize that we aren't just a bunch of swabbies sitting in an air conditioned space at sea. No matter what your rate or how good you are at your job, you can be shipped over to Iraq, AF or those other places with a quickness. I think I am safe for a while. Though I would have no heartache with going back.
This dude doesn't have a clue other than what's t he reads on the internet. I posted his picture and his "Friends" pictures on our net to see what people have to say. I also left a text with Mike to let him no this dumb jackass is throwing his name around again. Johnny Boy is about to become famous.
This dude doesn't have a clue other than what's t he reads on the internet. I posted his picture and his "Friends" pictures on our net to see what people have to say. I also left a text with Mike to let him no this dumb jackass is throwing his name around again. Johnny Boy is about to become famous.
LOL.
The fact you don't know who is in the picture is one more proof in a long list that you were never a SEAL and have been Stealing Valor here on the Campfire for quite a while.
This dude doesn't have a clue other than what's t he reads on the internet. I posted his picture and his "Friends" pictures on our net to see what people have to say. I also left a text with Mike to let him no this dumb jackass is throwing his name around again. Johnny Boy is about to become famous.
LOL.
The fact you don't know who is in the picture is one more proof in a long list that you were never a SEAL and have been Stealing Valor here on the Campfire for quite a while.
You’ve really exerted yourself from constantly winning. It’s time to lay down now, no?
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business.
John bribes and blows guys like you so he can get recommended to their active duty buddies. He doesn't own the company, he's just a machinist & fluffer.
Renegade went over the sales model pretty thoroughly. Purchases are made through the discretionary budgets.
It's sort of amazing how envious posters will simply lie when they think they are safe behind a keyboard.
Then you'll have to explain how your business model of insulting the intelligence of your alleged market works. Surely Jeff doesn't think you are doing any good at selling his wares to people on this site.
If you aren't selling them to people on this site, who are you selling them to?
I think I know the answer to that question, an answer that also explains why you give BJs to SFs.
Then you'll have to explain how your business model of insulting the intelligence of your alleged market works. Surely Jeff doesn't think you are doing any good at selling his wares to people on this site.
If you aren't selling them to people on this site, who are you selling them to?
I think I know the answer to that question, an answer that also explains why you give BJs to SFs.
And once again TyEnvious comes out of the closet with his fantasy and fetish.
It such a "tell" how you always dream of man on man homo sex.
There are a few latent homosexuals here on the Campfire that try and turn ever thread into content for their homo spank bank but you are probably the most blatent.
Then you'll have to explain how your business model of insulting the intelligence of your alleged market works. Surely Jeff doesn't think you are doing any good at selling his wares to people on this site.
If you aren't selling them to people on this site, who are you selling them to?
I think I know the answer to that question, an answer that also explains why you give BJs to SFs.
And once again TyEnvious comes out of the closet with his fantasy and fetish.
It such a "tell" how you always dream of man on man homo sex.
There are a few latent homosexuals here on the Campfire that try and turn ever thread into content for their homo spank bank but you are probably the most blatent.
IDGAF one way or another about JB and his company (though the memes are hilarious I have to admit).
Having said that, I was at the gun show yesterday and saw a Wyoming Arms AR. I doubt I would have looked twice at it had I not read about the company on here, but I happened to just notice the logo.
Stealing valor, is conning a legit vet inta takin a picture after a "free" hunt, and then usin that vet's likeness and rep, without his knowledge, ta shill overpriced frankenguns.
Stealing valor, is conning a legit vet inta takin a picture after a "free" hunt, and then usin that vet's likeness and rep, without his knowledge, ta shill overpriced frankenguns.
Wait a minute, this jackass runs a business? No way!! If so, you are absolutely the worst business man I have ever seen. You park your fatass on probably the biggest outdoor forum, use your real name and, act like an abrasive horses ass while attempting to claim how smart you are. I don't know where you got you business degree but you must have slept through the entire 2 or 4 years clown. This is NOT how you run even a moderately successful business.
John bribes and blows guys like you so he can get recommended to their active duty buddies. He doesn't own the company, he's just a machinist & fluffer.
Renegade went over the sales model pretty thoroughly. Purchases are made through the discretionary budgets.
It's sort of amazing how envious posters will simply lie when they think they are safe behind a keyboard.
Stealing valor, is conning a legit vet inta takin a picture after a "free" hunt, and then usin that vet's likeness and rep, without his knowledge, ta shill overpriced frankenguns.