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PHOENIX (AP) — Scores on the ACT college admissions test by this year’s high school graduates hit their lowest point in more than 30 years — the latest evidence of the enormity of learning disruption during the pandemic.

The class of 2022′s average ACT composite score was 19.8 out of 36, marking the first time since 1991 that the average score was below 20. What’s more, an increasing number of high school students failed to meet any of the subject-area benchmarks set by the ACT — showing a decline in preparedness for college-level coursework.

The test scores, made public in a report Wednesday, show 42% of ACT-tested graduates in the class of 2022 met none of the subject benchmarks in English, reading, science and math, which are indicators of how well students are expected to perform in corresponding college courses.

In comparison, 38% of test takers in 2021 failed to meet any of the benchmarks.

“Academic preparedness is where we are seeing the decline,” said Rose Babington, senior director for state partnerships for the ACT. “Every time we see ACT test scores, we are talking about skills and standards, and the prediction of students to be successful and to know the really important information to succeed and persist through their first year of college courses.”

ACT scores have declined steadily in recent years. Still, “the magnitude of the declines this year is particularly alarming,” ACT CEO Janet Godwin said in a statement. “We see rapidly growing numbers of seniors leaving high school without meeting college-readiness benchmarks in any of the subjects we measure.”

The results offer a lens into systemic inequities in education, in place well before the pandemic shuttered schools and colleges temporarily waived testing requirements. For example, students without access to rigorous high school curriculum suffered more setbacks during pandemic disruptions, Babington said. Those students are from rural areas, come from low-income families and are often students of color.

The number of students taking the ACT has declined 30% since 2018, as graduates increasingly forgo college and some universities no longer require admissions tests. But participation plunged 37% among Black students, with 154,000 taking the test this year.

Standardized tests such as the ACT have faced growing concerns that they’re unfair to minority and low-income students, as students with access to expensive test prep or advanced courses often perform better.

Babington defended the test as a measure of college readiness. “Now more than ever, the last few years have shown us the importance of having high-quality data to help inform how we support students,” Babington said.

Test scores now are optional for first-year student admission at many institutions. Some colleges, such as the University of California system, even opt for a test-blind policy, where scores are not considered even if submitted.

But many students still take the tests, hoping to get an edge in admissions by submitting their scores. Tyrone Jordan, a freshman at test-optional Arizona State University, said he took the ACT and the SAT to get ahead of other students and help him receive scholarships.

Jordan, who wants to pursue mechanical engineering, said he thinks his rigorous schedule at Tempe Preparatory Academy prepared him for college, and the standardized tests helped support him and his family financially.

“All the test did for me was give me extra financial money,” Jordan said.

While Jordan was always planning to take the test, many students struggle with access or choose not to take the test since their universities of choice no longer require it. In Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Tennessee and Wyoming, everyone is tested.






https://apnews.com/article/health-education-covid-phoenix-f1735b733e3f707d1e37f04b102c5754
It's not just the pandemic, it's the schools, too.
Originally Posted by reivertom
It's not just the pandemic, it's the schools, too.


I think the problem is the tests.

If they asked about intersectionality, gender theory, and pronouns the kids might score better!
These lunatics who directed all of these shutdowns, mask and vaccine mandates, cow-towing to the teacher unions and were wrong about everything need to be hung.
Originally Posted by efw
But many students still take the tests, hoping to get an edge in admissions by submitting their scores. Tyrone Jordan, a freshman at test-optional Arizona State University, said he took the ACT and the SAT to get ahead of other students and help him receive scholarships.

Jordan, who wants to pursue mechanical engineering, said he thinks his rigorous schedule at Tempe Preparatory Academy prepared him for college, and the standardized tests helped support him and his family financially.

“All the test did for me was give me extra financial money,” Jordan said.

That's what has happened at my house, as my daughter has always been a natural test-taker. If average scores are falling, a good score will stand out even more. With that being said, I'm pretty damn sure the distance-learning didn't do any kids any favors over the last couple of years.
We have learned over the past few years with kids just graduating and about to graduate that our hs curriculum here isn’t real strong.

Couple that with the remote learning crap and lazy teachers, and the results on act have really been disappointing. Talking to my kids, there are almost no kids getting 30s or anywhere near a 30 on any part of the act.
DIVERSHITTY FTW!
Originally Posted by Tarkio
We have learned over the past few years with kids just graduating and about to graduate that our hs curriculum here isn’t real strong.

Couple that with the remote learning crap and lazy teachers, and the results on act have really been disappointing. Talking to my kids, there are almost no kids getting 30s or anywhere near a 30 on any part of the act.

The teachers aren’t just lazy, they are incompetent and frankly stupid.
Diversity is the downfall of mankind.
Well didn't I also have to lower the requirements? You know for those short bus kids and well-tanned little bastards
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The teachers aren’t just lazy, they are incompetent and frankly stupid.

There are occasional exceptions, but the College of Education is a repository for the weakest students on the university campus.
If you have have 3 straight white males, 4 minor attracted black lesbians, 2 skanky mudsharks, and 6 fat purple-hared uglies, how much SNAP benefits should the tax payers provide Tyrone's three babby mommas?
Flatten the Curve.
Gruff...right on. Vast majority of teachers are teachers because they went to college, did not excel in science or engineering or anything that mattered, just took random courses, had few if any job prospects, but got enough credits to get a teaching credential. Teaching was the fallback option when all else failed. Our first clue is 76% of K-12 teachers are female...with predictable result. My apologies to those rare ENFJ Myers-Briggs types who make superb teachers. The rest of you slacker union bastards can kiss my ass. Otherwise, I have no strong feelings on the subject.
Would you guys be supportive of requiring a Masters to become a teacher?
Level of education has NOTHING to do with excellence...some could make the case that the higher the degree the more removed from teaching in the trenches effectively.
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Level of education has NOTHING to do with excellence...some could make the case that the higher the degree the more removed from teaching in the trenches effectively.


Hard to say.


Some places in Scandinavia have such requirements. The kids spend less time in class...and have higher scores than us.
I hear you Jim, Hard to say. In Scandinavia, they got good raw material in the way of students.
A quick anecdote, a friend bought an ancient 2 room school building a few years back, we were going to jack it up and move it...got sidetracked, it was full of old file boxes, we got to looking through them. I'm no scholar, but we were absolutely stunned at some of the examples of the daily lesson plans in those files (pre WW2). Arithmetic, algebra, geometry on a level 1st thru 8th I think that would stump a recent high school grad. But, class size may have had something to do with it, 6 or 8 kids per grade. We were telling a lady that went to that school as a child, and she said that the older kids constantly tutored the younger kids...that is a lot of one on one time.
Home schoolers dragging things down.
Originally Posted by reivertom
It's not just the pandemic, it's the schools, too.

^^^^ x 100
It's not just the ACT scores and it's not anything new. I was an Air Force recruiter in the 1970's in California, students from some high schools failed the ASVAB 7 out of 10. Recruiters today are faced with the same problem.

If you can't pass the written exam to join the Army, what the hell hope do you have?
I’ve maintained that the ACT was a scam since I was 16 (I’m 49 now).
I’ve long thought that the ASVAB should also be used for college admissions.
Had a high of 27 on the ACT (paid to take the silly thing 3 times). Dunno what my ASVAB score was, but Army Sgt. Ron Brown from Denver sure did wear the phone line to my parents out trying to recruit me.
Originally Posted by reivertom
It's not just the pandemic, it's the schools, too.

And the parents…..
Mean while the teachers union president is over in Ukraine ,to see why their students are doing so poorly
Private school. I know it’s not an option for everyone but we sacrificed to send our boys. Youngest is a senior this year. Scored 26. We are quite proud.

Clyde
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Diversity is the downfall of mankind.
White People
I think public education is pretty much a failure and has been for several years. The government keeps throwing taxpayer money at it as though spending more will improve the system. Until they start educating instead of indoctrinating nothing will improve.
Wasnt just the pandemic.

All the electronic devices that do their thinking for em.

3 digit division with a pencil and paper is Mt Everest schit.

Multiplication tables...
Scheeeet
Originally Posted by flintlocke
I hear you Jim, Hard to say. In Scandinavia, they got good raw material in the way of students.
A quick anecdote, a friend bought an ancient 2 room school building a few years back, we were going to jack it up and move it...got sidetracked, it was full of old file boxes, we got to looking through them. I'm no scholar, but we were absolutely stunned at some of the examples of the daily lesson plans in those files (pre WW2). Arithmetic, algebra, geometry on a level 1st thru 8th I think that would stump a recent high school grad. But, class size may have had something to do with it, 6 or 8 kids per grade. We were telling a lady that went to that school as a child, and she said that the older kids constantly tutored the younger kids...that is a lot of one on one time.

My folks...graduates of '63 and '64 were much better educated than I was...by and large.
I was class of '01.

I was much better educated than my children.


Funny thing is...my parents never even asked how school was going. Never asked to see a report card.


We have to constantly keep tabs on things or our kids get behind.

As our education system declines....parents have to be more involved.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Would you guys be supportive of requiring a Masters to become a teacher?

What kind of master's degree?
Students create their own level of achievement based on a combination of the level of ability with which they are born, the level of their desire to achieve, and the degree of expectation/demand placed upon them by their parents. Schools are there to provide a framework for that to take place.
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Would you guys be supportive of requiring a Masters to become a teacher?

What kind of master's degree?

In education?

Would it be better if it was more specific?
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Students create their own level of achievement based on a combination of the level of ability with which they are born, the level of their desire to achieve, and the degree of expectation/demand placed upon them by their parents. Schools are there to provide a framework for that to take place.


In other words....it weren't yer fault.
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Would you guys be supportive of requiring a Masters to become a teacher?

What kind of master's degree?

Jim and mathman, I graduated with a B.S. in natural science with minors in chemistry and social studies (a waste) and went to a rural HS for two years where I had to teach all of the sciences. IMO, the education classes were a waste of time and money. For the sciences, I would have been better prepared with an M.S. in physics, or chemistry, or anatomy and physiology.

Seems reasonable, as one needs a PhD to teach same in college/university.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Students create their own level of achievement based on a combination of the level of ability with which they are born, the level of their desire to achieve, and the degree of expectation/demand placed upon them by their parents. Schools are there to provide a framework for that to take place.


In other words....it weren't yer fault.

Our schools are more concerned with making sure kids are fed breakfast and lunch, going as far as to deliver food to kids with schoolbusses during the Covid lockdown.
No idea how the education system took on this responsibility.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Would you guys be supportive of requiring a Masters to become a teacher?

What kind of master's degree?

In education?

Would it be better if it was more specific?

I'd be more supportive of a subject oriented master's degree.

That said, I don't think I'd have a person looking to teach HS math get the same MS degree as I did along the way to my doctorate. I would however like to see a significant technical upgrade from the typical M.Ed with a few "math for teachers" courses sprinkled in.
There's a huge range of public school quality. Ya'll keep your heathen city chit away from our town. LOL
Originally Posted by reivertom
It's not just the pandemic, it's the schools, too.

Yeah, it's what happens when you replace reading and mathematics with drooling and mouth-breathing.
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Would you guys be supportive of requiring a Masters to become a teacher?

What kind of master's degree?

In education?

Would it be better if it was more specific?

I'd be more supportive of a subject oriented master's degree.

That said, I don't think I'd have a person looking to teach HS math get the same MS degree as I did along the way to my doctorate. I would however like to see a significant technical upgrade from the typical M.Ed with a few "math for teachers" courses sprinkled in.

Yeah, because $300k in student debt to get a $44k a year job is worth it to only have to work 9 months a year…..LOL

The education system in this country is an absolute joke. There should be at least as many tech schools as there are universities.
My attorney, who is 10 years my younger and one of about 6 people I respect, and extremely expensive and brilliant made a statement that’s stuck with me.
He said “you know what the problem is with this country? You have guys in thousand dollar suits making $60k a year looking down their noses at guys in Carhartts making $90k a year.”

Fugkin love that guy.
It's racist anyway, right?
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Would you guys be supportive of requiring a Masters to become a teacher?

What kind of master's degree?
The best teacher I ever had was a bachelors he got in the Marine Corp. It's not about how long you go to school or where, it's how well you can get through to kids. Except now, too many teachers want to get to kids just to flip them to at least socialism if not downright communism.
You shouldn't go to school where it's that expensive.

I agree there are a lot of university students who shouldn't be there. One of my nephews is a bright enough kid, but the kind of "book learning" it takes to become an engineer for example just doesn't suit him. He's working with an electrician to learn the trade. Tech school would be great for him.
You understand, the low IQ turd world invaders are part of this equation.

Right?
United States hasn't ranked in the top 30 in the world in the last 25 or so years. Despite the fact we are top 3 or so on spending. It's the schools. I've said since 2010 that anyone who sends their kid to a public school is doing them a disservice.
Originally Posted by add
You understand, the low IQ turd world invaders are part of this equation.

Right?

Civilized peoples fighting barbarians will always lose. The very reason this country exists. If we’d have fought the British using the rules of warfare they operated under we’d still be paying tribute to those retards.
Must be a racist,.. Enjoy the future
Originally Posted by Geno67
United States hasn't ranked in the top 30 in the world in the last 25 or so years. Despite the fact we are top 3 or so on spending. It's the schools. I've said since 2010 that anyone who sends their kid to a public school is doing them a disservice.

^ ^ ^

Dummy on display.

Thinks racial mixing promotes advancement.




laugh
We’ve got one at my school, I’m a loner in thinking in many ways, she says it’s ok for them to say, “It’s not my day,” if they’re having a hard time. I don’t care, the math test is today, it better be your day. She’s said she says that to them when she has a headache or something, and asks for grace.
Screw that, if I’m having a bad day, do that after or before school, when I’m there, it better be my best!
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Geno67
United States hasn't ranked in the top 30 in the world in the last 25 or so years. Despite the fact we are top 3 or so on spending. It's the schools. I've said since 2010 that anyone who sends their kid to a public school is doing them a disservice.

^ ^ ^

Dummy on display.

Thinks racial mixing promotes advancement.

My very close friend Akeem Borom is black as the ace of spades. He's a research MD, top 1% of his medical school class and spends his days finding cures for the worst diseases that afflict us. People like you see him and read his name and put him in a [bleep] place every single time. When we came back from Canada into Buffalo while attending a research conference at the State University of New York Buffalo, New York State's flagship research uni where he represented the University of Alabama, CBP threw him into a cell for no reason whatsoever. He's 100 times the man you'll ever be and 500 times the man all of the CBP officers will as well.

Ghettos in this country are mostly black and the culture lends itself to [bleep] people because the culture is garbage. You take a baby from there and raise it right and it won't (generally) be anything like the people in the geographic area it was born.

I think racial mixing removes garbage that inbred hillbillies can bitch and moan about.

Excellence and high requirements promote advancement. Our public schools have been lowering standards for teachers and students for quite some time. It has been very detrimental to our world ranking and will continue to do so.

If you have a child in government school, it's akin to child abuse. Get them into private school or homeschool them.
Originally Posted by reivertom
It's not the pandemic, it's the schools.
Fixed.
What do you expect when the schools teach Woke Marxism?

Despite the low ACT scores, kids aren't stupid. They learn from the Woke teachers that it's easier to be a victim than to work hard.
Anyone thinking this isnt by design hasnt been paying attention.
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