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Posted By: Uncle_Alvah Tipping - 11/30/22
If you go out someplace where a tip would likely be in order, do you tip in cash or put the tip on your card?
Or do you not tip, ever?
Posted By: rong Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
We use cash when we go out to eat,and also tip in cash.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
If I were you, I’d tip. They probably wanna [bleep] in your drink anyway.
Posted By: granitestate1 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
If you use your card and include the tip, you’re actually tipping the government at the same time
Posted By: Dutch Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Always cash. Seems to cause a lot of confusion in some of the more "progressive" joints and younger servers. They'll figure it out.
Posted By: chris_c Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
If I use the card, still tip in cash
Posted By: MPat70 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
IF THEY DESERVE A TIP, I am not going to tip some lazy azz server that can't be pulled away from their texting.

But if a tip is in order I prefer to tip in cash handed directly to the server.
Posted By: superlight17b Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I always tip and in cash.Four years working at PIZZA & BREW, gave me an inside look at the resturant workers world.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I always tip in cash if possible. I don’t want this government getting anything more from her citizens. The tax code and laws in this country are criminal and unconstitutional.

I applaud those that know the loopholes and use everything they can to lower their tax burden. I don’t think anyone should be compelled to fund their own destruction or fund their enemies which is exactly what we’re doing these days when we pay our taxes.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I wear a nail apron with ketchup packets and nickels
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
If a person is going to leave worthless fiat money for a tip he might just as well forget about leaving a tip altogether. The only meaningful tips are those done in precious metals, handloading components, or .22 lr cartridges.
Posted By: Dess Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Cash as a tip. Instant cash flow is a big deal to those employees. Just those few bucks can help tide you through until payday.
Posted By: plainsman456 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Always tip cash.

Figured that would be what they would want more,than a credit card tip.
Posted By: slg888 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Cash. And I always tip well.
Posted By: Dre Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
We try to tip cash.
F the greedy government
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by Uncle_Alvah
If you go out someplace where a tip would likely be in order, do you tip in cash or put the tip on your card?
Or do you not tip, ever?

You're cash poor and low on credit. Must be in the no tip "do you take WIC" category?
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
A bunch of you sound like you think restaurant workers don’t declare tips as income.
Posted By: Jignblade Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I like to tip with cash, if i can.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
My kids always declared a percentage of their tips. And their tips were divided between servers, cooks, and bussers.

Except those special customers who slipped $100 bill into her hand around Christmas. Those were recognized as the personal gifts they were intended to be.
Posted By: jnyork Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I always tip in cash and try to hand it directly to the server.

Many folks dont know about the IRS and server tips. The IRS adds up the server's tickets for the night and taxes them on 10 percent of that, whether or not they actually make that much in tips or not.

My wife was a cafe waitress for many years, I have a good idea of what they go through and try to tip generously unless it is totally undeserved.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
If I had aunt Alvah for a waitress , I’d tip 10% for average and 20-25% for excellent.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Paint your canoe black

It will never tip
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by chris_c
If I use the card, still tip in cash
This ^^ My wife insists on tipping at 15%.

kwg
Posted By: bamagun01 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
After spending 35yrs in the restaurant business I most certainly tip those that deserve it. What irritates me now is how the cashier asks for a tip as soon as I order and pay, before any food has been prepared or service given. I still add a tip if I’m going to eat it in the restaurant. If I call in a Togo order and walk in to pick up the food I may or maybe not leave a tip. It depends on the situation.
I can tell you from many years of experience, some employees earn every $$ they get and others not so much. It always frustrated me seeing the ones that gave a “poor pitiful me” story to hopefully get a larger tip from the customer, when others were too busy working to give any pity stories.
Posted By: charleeontop Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I have noticed lately if you pay cash at the table they bring back all but the change.
If it is 40c or 80c it is still mine, if this happens I figure this is what they think they worthy as a tip.
I tip well as a rule but this bothers me.
charlee
Posted By: Dess Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Anyone else leave your dining companion at the table as collateral when you are at the register and breaking a larger bill for a tip?
Posted By: hanco Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I tip cash.
Posted By: Uncle_Alvah Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
If you choose to tip on a card, not only are you funding the Gov, the credit card company take their 3% or whatever it is.
I usually pay with my debit card and always tip in cash. In addition, I believe a tip should "fold", not "jingle".
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
In the past I would pay for the meal with my card, zero out the tip section, then leave cash on the table for the server. That was until a few years ago at a Chili's when I paid with my card and left the tip on the table as usual, then when I checked my credit card statement about a week later I saw that my charge was $12 more than the $25 I had signed off on. Since it was a week later and I hadn't kept the receipt I didn't go back and complain, but someone added $12 to my charge after I'd filled out the card receipt. My guess is that what happened was that the busboy had cleaned off the table and pocketed the cash tip before the server got a chance to collect it, then the server thought she'd been stiffed and decided to tack $12 on to the $25 bill. Regardless of what happened, I no longer leave cash on the table for the server. I tip on the card receipt and let them sort it out. Someone working there was a thief, I don't know or care who it was. I was trying to do a good deed for the servers but it bit me so now I just tip on the card.
Posted By: tzone Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Tip? I always give her the whole thing.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by Uncle_Alvah
If you choose to tip on a card, not only are you funding the Gov, the credit card company take their 3% or whatever it is.
I usually pay with my debit card and always tip in cash. In addition, I believe a tip should "fold", not "jingle".
^^^

Definitely a waitress. Probably at a gentleman’s club.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by tzone
Tip? I always give her the whole thing.

Would she notice any difference?
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by tzone
Tip? I always give her the whole thing.

Would she notice any difference?
No, his Mom won’t leave either unless you call a Lyft. Uber isn’t fancy enough.
Posted By: KFWA Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Sonic is hitting me up for tips now in their app and when I pay on their drive in screen

whatever, I'll throw the gal a couple of bucks for my route 44 and 2 for $5 grilled cheeseburgers
Posted By: Ben_Lurkin Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
Paint your canoe black

It will never tip

Gonna have to try that!

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Posted By: Clarkm Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
Paint your canoe black

It will never tip

I read about a black that tipped once. She was young, all alone, and no one could see her do it.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by KFWA
Sonic is hitting me up for tips now in their app and when I pay on their drive in screen

whatever, I'll throw the gal a couple of bucks for my route 44 and 2 for $5 grilled cheeseburgers
^^^
Not MAGA
Posted By: Nestucca Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by rong
We use cash when we go out to eat,and also tip in cash.
This is what I do. I hand the tip to them and tell them this is for getting off your ass and going to work unlike a lot of people.
Posted By: 79S Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by Nestucca
Originally Posted by rong
We use cash when we go out to eat,and also tip in cash.
This is what I do. I hand the tip to them and tell them this is for getting off your ass and going to work unlike a lot of people.

No you don’t… Nugget
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Nestucca
Originally Posted by rong
We use cash when we go out to eat,and also tip in cash.
This is what I do. I hand the tip to them and tell them this is for getting off your ass and going to work unlike a lot of people.

No you don’t… Nugget
Yeah she’s a lying bitch, lmao
Posted By: Nestucca Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Nestucca
Originally Posted by rong
We use cash when we go out to eat,and also tip in cash.
This is what I do. I hand the tip to them and tell them this is for getting off your ass and going to work unlike a lot of people.

No you don’t… Nugget
The fuuck I don’t. Lol I’m a fairly direct type of person that cuts through the bs so there’s no room for interpretation.
Posted By: Teal Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by ironbender
A bunch of you sound like you think restaurant workers don’t declare tips as income.


Having about 80% of my dates/girlfriends/ex-wifes come from the service industry, either waitress or bartender - I know they claim tips as income. I also know they don't claim ALL of them as income but if a tip is on the card - then it's definitely claimed 100%.

Tipping in cash - what happens after that is between them and the .gov and the less the .gov the better.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Cash
Posted By: Dude270 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by ironbender
A bunch of you sound like you think restaurant workers don’t declare tips as income.


Having about 80% of my dates/girlfriends/ex-wifes come from the service industry, either waitress or bartender - I know they claim tips as income. I also know they don't claim ALL of them as income but if a tip is on the card - then it's definitely claimed 100%.

Tipping in cash - what happens after that is between them and the .gov and the less the .gov the better.


This.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Tip in cash.
15 to 20%
10% if service was barely average.

Worst thing I hate is a fuuuking empty drink glass.
And if ya walk by repeatedly on a implied task that goes along with your job.
Well...
You want a tip about tips??
Don't work for tips if ya can't fill a glass you are pretending not to see....

Unca suga azz rapes anyone who works and gives that money to those who don't work that vote liberal socialist Democrat for free schit as a way of life.
Posted By: cisco1 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
We eat out a lot. Don't use CC's. My tips would be a good income supplement .
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I worked in restaurants for three years. Get this, I was working my way through college, and not taking out government loans. Restaurants during school, and construction full time during summer.
I am a good tipper and tip in cash. On the rare occasion that service is bad, I leave a bad tip.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Always tip, minimum 15%, no limit on top. If I have the cash, I use that.

Life’s to short to be a cheap fugg…..
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Just use the card usually.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
In the past I would pay for the meal with my card, zero out the tip section, then leave cash on the table for the server. That was until a few years ago at a Chili's when I paid with my card and left the tip on the table as usual, then when I checked my credit card statement about a week later I saw that my charge was $12 more than the $25 I had signed off on. Since it was a week later and I hadn't kept the receipt I didn't go back and complain, but someone added $12 to my charge after I'd filled out the card receipt. My guess is that what happened was that the busboy had cleaned off the table and pocketed the cash tip before the server got a chance to collect it, then the server thought she'd been stiffed and decided to tack $12 on to the $25 bill. Regardless of what happened, I no longer leave cash on the table for the server. I tip on the card receipt and let them sort it out. Someone working there was a thief, I don't know or care who it was. I was trying to do a good deed for the servers but it bit me so now I just tip on the card.
That happened to me on a takeout pizza order. The gal at the register demanded a tip. I told her to round it up to the next nearest dollar.

I called ahead for pizzas and breadsticks as a treat for my crew of 25 at work. When I got to the store, the order was missing two pizzas and a box of bread sticks. I waited while they made the pizzas and was late to work. They did not include the missing bread sticks.

The gal did not hand me back a copy of the reciept. The next day I checked my checking account on the computer and saw the gal had added 15 bucks to the total as a tip.

I wrote a rather harsh email to corporate headquarters.

A couple days later, I got a very apologetic phone call from the local manager.

She assured me the cashier had been dismissed. A couple days later coupons arrived in the mail to duplicate the previous order for free.

My grandkids had a great pizza party with the coupons. I have not been back in the place. It left a sour taste in my mouth.
Posted By: killerv Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Cash if I have it, usually 30%

But Tipping is racist....

https://www.eater.com/a/case-against-tipping
Posted By: funshooter Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I try not using a card when going out to eat.
I pay cash and Tip Cash


Many years ago maybe 40 I took my Soon to be wife out to my Favorite Prime Rib place.
There was only 1 waitress working that night all of the others called in sick or did not show up.
The Place was packed and everyone was screaming at the waitress about their food.

I Thanked the waitress for her service as she was doing the best that she could being by her self.

I tipped her 300% of the bill as a thank you for what i watched her go threw that night.

She came running out of the restaurant to shake my hand and thank me.

My soon to be wife turned to me and said what was that all about.
I told her that I watched this poor Waitress getting abused and decided to thank her for her service.

Future wife just looked at me with that look.

The Waitress was 20 years older than me and the Future wife did not get what I tried to do for this poor Waitress.

I try and Tip 15--20% and If i get real good service and have the funds I can go as high as about 30%.
But it had better be very good service.

Bad service gets 10%
and horrible service. lets just say they know what i thought about their service.
Posted By: Whelenman Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
We tip in cash too. I always figured that they combine all the tips to make it fare! [bleep] that if my waitress did an excellent job she gets a good tip. A Shiity job a shiiity tip!
Posted By: KFWA Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.
Posted By: Bwana338 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
With tips.

I like to base our tip on the meal and beverages that we ordered. We tip between 18% and 25% and some times more.

We have been starting to see where suggested tip amounts are based to include tax. So the suggested tip amount is based including the 8% to 10% state taxes.

Most individuals do not look to see if the tax is figured into the suggested tip amount.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Just watch, that they don't include a tip in the bill.
Posted By: Bwana338 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I forgot that some places include the tip in the bill for the table if you have 6 or more. Depending on the number the included tip amount starts at 20% to 25%.

However, the tip slot is still open for additional tip to be included.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Then there was the time she slammed the chili down so hard, it splashed in my coffee, yes, i tipped, I was afraid not to. laugh
Posted By: dale06 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Always tip, minimum 15%, no limit on top. If I have the cash, I use that.

Life’s to short to be a cheap fugg…..

My lower limit is zero. I’ve had, but rarely, very poor service. They get zero. For normal to good service, 15-50%.
I worked as a bus boy through college. I got a portion of the waiter/waitress tips.
One memorable moment, there was an older black gentleman eating alone where I worked. I cleared his table and he asked me to buy him a cigar at the front desk. (This was 1972). He have me a $5 for the cigar which cost a dollar or so. And he told me to keep the change.
After he left, the bartender asked me if I knew who that was, I didn’t know.
It was Jessie Owens.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I did a few zeroes at Golden Corral

all you gotta do is fill my drink.

If youre slow or stupid, busy, forgetful- I recognize that and have them just set me down the whole pitcher of tea. Or being me two at a time.

If youre a stupid slow kgunt….and I have to get into the ‘nurse’s station’ myself and top my own glass off- youre gettin zero and possibly some hurt feelins
Posted By: Dess Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Few things worse in a restaurant than being seated in "no man's land". Watching other patrons all around you getting drinks, orders, and food while you have yet to make contact with anyone.

I understand if they're busy and can't get to me immediately. At least acknowledge my presence. If nothing...I'm out of there. And no...I don't leave a tip.
Posted By: Hotrod_Lincoln Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Tipping is an acknowledgement of the quality of the service provided. I keep a pocketful of pennies for the really crappy servers, and the good ones can earn a cash tip equaling or even exceeding the cost of the meal. It's their choice which way I jump!
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Christopher tipped $16 on a $1200 tab. The waiter should have kept his mouth shut.

Posted By: Ben_Lurkin Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
I usually tip 20% on the card because it’s mainly work-related expenses and I don’t get reimbursed for leaving cash. What is annoying is every counter service place now has a tip jar out by the cashier and has an automatic tip screen when you pay with default at 18% with 20% and 25% as options! Really? You expect a tip like that for ringing up my order? And now I gotta screw around on your touch screen to straighten that out? 🖕🏿🖕🏿 I might give you ten if you’re extra polite and actually give me a straw and a few paper towels without me having to ask. Rarely seems to happen too.

The liberal states requiring pay at $15 an hour get 10% max. You shouldn’t be making more than me to wait tables beetches; Especially when I just dropped $20 for a kids pb&j.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Tipping - 11/30/22
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.
Posted By: lightman Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
I pay in cash and tip in cash. Usually very generously.
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
I’ll give ya $50 when you lay 3-4 squares of shingles

Not for walking to my table 5 times with 4 beers

Some of this horseshît get a little ridiculous

Youre already charging me $5 each for $1.50 beer. Go get foucked
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.

While I readily admit to being of lesser social status than my betters, I did not call for the abolishment of tipping, I merely am puzzled as to why it should be related to the bill.
Posted By: bluffview Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by charleeontop
I have noticed lately if you pay cash at the table they bring back all but the change.
If it is 40c or 80c it is still mine, if this happens I figure this is what they think they worthy as a tip.
I tip well as a rule but this bothers me.
charlee

This and one of the servers at a local haunt just likes to tell you your total and not produce a bill. I want to see what I’m paying (and tipping for).
Posted By: cclarkblues Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Remember when covid was in style, the government relieved us of a few trillion dollars and gave us $1400 in return? We took that pittance and began to overtip the people who waited on us. Because of restrictions you couldn't fill all the tables and had to leave several empty ones between those with people. They went to extraordinary length to clean everything all the while having to wear the stupid masks. It cut into a lot of people's income.

We decided to spend the 1400 to help those who worked their butts off to keep the doors open usually 25-50 percent of the bill. Also usually buy a round of drinks for the folks that work in the kitchen that you never see. The 1400 is long gone but we keep tipping. I should mention that we are treated like royalty now in the restaurants we frequent. Seemed like the right thing to do.
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Another perspective on tipping.



L.W.
Posted By: weaselsRus Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Who was it saying they tip their garbage man every Christmas? "He'd get rid of a rug rolled up with feet sticking out of it if I pulled it to the curb."
Posted By: Dude270 Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.

While I readily admit to being of lesser social status than my betters, I did not call for the abolishment of tipping, I merely am puzzled as to why it should be related to the bill.


What's so hard to understand about the fact that if you order 10 beers instead of 2 the waitress had to make 8 more trips to your table?
Posted By: hanco Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
We tip our bartender well at the dancehal, she takes good care of us.
Posted By: Hastings Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
We go out to eat maybe once a week at a sit down take your order place and my wife handles paying and tipping the girl who is the 22 year old daughter of a good friend. I don't know how much but my wife is a generous sort. All other times if possible and when travelling most of the time I go to a place where I can walk up to the counter and get my stuff and refill my own drink. Saving a dollar here and there mounts up mightily over a lifetime. This year at the Hastings Nebraska Subway I was directly asked for a tip by the girl that handed me a sandwich. She didn't get one.
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by Dude270
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.

While I readily admit to being of lesser social status than my betters, I did not call for the abolishment of tipping, I merely am puzzled as to why it should be related to the bill.


What's so hard to understand about the fact that if you order 10 beers instead of 2 the waitress had to make 8 more trips to your table?

If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by hillestadj
Originally Posted by Dude270
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.

While I readily admit to being of lesser social status than my betters, I did not call for the abolishment of tipping, I merely am puzzled as to why it should be related to the bill.


What's so hard to understand about the fact that if you order 10 beers instead of 2 the waitress had to make 8 more trips to your table?

If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?

Exactly.
Posted By: LRoyJetson Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by hillestadj
If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?

That is lost on so many.
Posted By: killerv Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by weaselsRus
Who was it saying they tip their garbage man every Christmas? "He'd get rid of a rug rolled up with feet sticking out of it if I pulled it to the curb."

Wasnt me but I've done it in the past, i also tip the guy who pressure washes my house, movers, I tip my taxidermist. An extra 20 goes a long way.


Now what I cant stand is a waitress/waiter that starts the whole do you want to close out or transfer tab mess, with technology these days, their pos system should be able to keep up with who has what tips left for them and those tips be distributed accordingly.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Tippin fo fos
Posted By: slumlord Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by LRoyJetson
Originally Posted by hillestadj
If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?

That is lost on so many.
Including the pinhead waitress
Posted By: JohnnyLoco Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Cash. I usually start out mentally at 20% and start deducting as the meal goes until I reach the final figure.
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by hillestadj
Originally Posted by Dude270
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.

While I readily admit to being of lesser social status than my betters, I did not call for the abolishment of tipping, I merely am puzzled as to why it should be related to the bill.


What's so hard to understand about the fact that if you order 10 beers instead of 2 the waitress had to make 8 more trips to your table?

If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?

I will tell you this, if you were a young man in your twenties, or thirties, and you were on a first date with a "hot chick."
Of course your goal is to "get nekkid" with the girl. So, you don't take her to McDonalds, you take her to a really nice restaurant. If she catches you leaving a cheapo tip, your chance of banging her just went to zero. All young gals have either worked as waitresses, or their mother or sister did, they don't like cheap tippers.
Posted By: killerv Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by LRoyJetson
Originally Posted by hillestadj
If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?

That is lost on so many.

and the steak takes less time to cook
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
"Don't eat yellow snow."
Posted By: slumlord Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by hillestadj
Originally Posted by Dude270
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.

While I readily admit to being of lesser social status than my betters, I did not call for the abolishment of tipping, I merely am puzzled as to why it should be related to the bill.


What's so hard to understand about the fact that if you order 10 beers instead of 2 the waitress had to make 8 more trips to your table?

If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?

I will tell you this, if you were a young man in your twenties, or thirties, and you were on a first date with a "hot chick."
Of course your goal is to "get nekkid" with the girl. So, you don't take her to McDonalds, you take her to a really nice restaurant. If she catches you leaving a cheapo tip, your chance of banging her just went to zero. All young gals have either worked as waitresses, or their mother or sister did, they don't like cheap tippers.

Pull one off of a hog or tobacco farm

She’ll be THRILLED with a $10 pizza
Posted By: smokepole Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by hillestadj
Originally Posted by Dude270
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.

While I readily admit to being of lesser social status than my betters, I did not call for the abolishment of tipping, I merely am puzzled as to why it should be related to the bill.


What's so hard to understand about the fact that if you order 10 beers instead of 2 the waitress had to make 8 more trips to your table?

If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?

I will tell you this, if you were a young man in your twenties, or thirties, and you were on a first date with a "hot chick."
Of course your goal is to "get nekkid" with the girl. So, you don't take her to McDonalds, you take her to a really nice restaurant. If she catches you leaving a cheapo tip, your chance of banging her just went to zero. All young gals have either worked as waitresses, or their mother or sister did, they don't like cheap tippers.

LOL, that's not a tip, it's an investment!
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
We tip because women are predominantly the ones with those jobs.

Women are equal to men in every way...so therefore must be tipped and given extra help.

They will have to go back to whoring if you don't tip.....and you don't want that. Do ya?
Posted By: smokepole Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Well, which will cost me more?
Posted By: Hastings Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
We tip because women are predominantly the ones with those jobs.

Women are equal to men in every way...so therefore must be tipped and given extra help.

They will have to go back to whoring if you don't tip.....and you don't want that. Do ya?
At the afore mentioned restaurant my wife and I attend weekly there was once a couple (male/female) of college students working there. The girl who was nice looking told us she more than doubled her boyfriend in tips received.
Posted By: Uncle_Alvah Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
I tended bar in a backwoods tavern in a tourist are for a few years.
In my experience, the most reliable tippers are locals.
The best tippers, at least where I worked, were tourist snowmobilers.
The worst tippers were groups of women and tree huggers.
People who drank and ordered food were better tippers than just drinkers.
More than once I have had people leave me a joint as a tip.
One man who owned a food distributorship of some sort downstate once one left me two racks of Lamb as a tip.
In general, people who have worked for tips at some point in their lives are the most generous.
I don't know about all states but many allow owners to pay waitstaff far below Federal minimum wage because they get tips. A travesty of justice if ever there was.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
We tip because women are predominantly the ones with those jobs.

Women are equal to men in every way...so therefore must be tipped and given extra help.

They will have to go back to whoring if you don't tip.....and you don't want that. Do ya?
At the afore mentioned restaurant my wife and I attend weekly there was once a couple (male/female) of college students working there. The girl who was nice looking told us she more than doubled her boyfriend in tips received.

The expectation that women will do ‘special’ things for money is a long held belief by men.

🦫
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by hillestadj
Originally Posted by Dude270
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by KFWA
I was at a bar one night on a company gig, so the boss asked me to put a tab on my company card.

It wasn't alot, maybe $600 all told but I was in no condition to do math so when the time came to close out the tab, I gave the waitress a $50 tip which in my state I thought was pretty decent. Easy math.

On the way out the door the manager tracked me down and asked if there was a problem with the service because I gave such a crappy tip. I told her to tell me what a fair tip was. I was embarrassed that I did it, but in my head, I thought $50 was pretty good for slinging drinks for a couple of hours.I don't remember what I ended up giving her. I'm sure it was probably 20%.- whatever number the manager came up with that I thought was reasonable.

That was the first and only time anyone tracked me down for being a schitty tiipper.

I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

Then just go to McDonalds. Fine restaurants are off limits for you.

While I readily admit to being of lesser social status than my betters, I did not call for the abolishment of tipping, I merely am puzzled as to why it should be related to the bill.


What's so hard to understand about the fact that if you order 10 beers instead of 2 the waitress had to make 8 more trips to your table?

If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?

I will tell you this, if you were a young man in your twenties, or thirties, and you were on a first date with a "hot chick."
Of course your goal is to "get nekkid" with the girl. So, you don't take her to McDonalds, you take her to a really nice restaurant. If she catches you leaving a cheapo tip, your chance of banging her just went to zero. All young gals have either worked as waitresses, or their mother or sister did, they don't like cheap tippers.

I'll keep that in mind when I time travel back to my twenties...

I tip well, the above is an example - but valid question none the less. Do you have an actual answer other than if you want to fu,ck a new girl you need to flash the cash?
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
We tip because women are predominantly the ones with those jobs.

Women are equal to men in every way...so therefore must be tipped and given extra help.

They will have to go back to whoring if you don't tip.....and you don't want that. Do ya?

I mean, kinda.
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by Uncle_Alvah
I tended bar in a backwoods tavern in a tourist are for a few years.
In my experience, the most reliable tippers are locals.
The best tippers, at least where I worked, were tourist snowmobilers.
The worst tippers were groups of women and tree huggers.
People who drank and ordered food were better tippers than just drinkers.
More than once I have had people leave me a joint as a tip.
One man who owned a food distributorship of some sort downstate once one left me two racks of Lamb as a tip.
In general, people who have worked for tips at some point in their lives are the most generous.
I don't know about all states but many allow owners to pay waitstaff far below Federal minimum wage because they get tips. A travesty of justice if ever there was.

Cool fabrication, tell us more
Posted By: MrWilson Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by 5sdad
I will never understand the reason for a tip being a percentage of the bill.

I agree !
Posted By: MrWilson Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by hillestadj
If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?


Exactly !
Posted By: Uncle_Alvah Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Its incredible to me, and others as well, that you persist in the delusion that your mindless drivel somehow bothers me. What a sad pathetic man you are. I pity you. Whatever satisfaction your 3rd grade mentality derives from your foolish blabber, I'm glad I can help you. Carry on loser boy just don't stop loving me huh? smile smile smile
But I would like to add one last thing.........just for you Buttercup!

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Posted By: Raeford Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Moved on past the 'woe is me' stage I see.
Posted By: Uncle_Alvah Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by Raeford
Moved on past the 'woe is me' stage I see.

Indeed I have. Situation has changed dramatically. Hope you are glad for me. Thanks for asking.
Posted By: Raeford Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by Uncle_Alvah
Originally Posted by Raeford
Moved on past the 'woe is me' stage I see.

Indeed I have. Situation has changed dramatically. Hope you are glad for me. Thanks for asking.

Well GFY
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
The sockpuppet is transforming into his final form, watch closely
Posted By: TheLastLemming76 Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by MrWilson
Originally Posted by hillestadj
If I ordered a $100 steak or a $10 dollar burger same amount of trips back and forth no? Why does burger waitress get $2 but steak gets $20?


Exactly !
That’s why they’re encouraged to ask “if you saved room for dessert” to drive up the bill on drinks, appetizers, and desserts.

I never give any thought to cash tips over a card but it sounds like cash is the better option. I usually tip a higher ratio on a cheap meal to balance things out some or at least make it worth the servers time. Usually around 25% tip in a restaurant. I’m easy to wait on. Take my order, refill my pop at least once and bring me the check when we’re done, that’s about it. Pretty hard to screw that up. I’m not someone that goes out to dinner looking for things to ding the waitstaff over.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
I delivered pizzas in Rigby while in college. I once delivered 33 orders in one night and made about $2.50 in tips. I hated that cheap ass town and now I live there. Never ceases to amaze me just how cheap some people can be. Everyone should work for tips at some point in their life.

I once had a guy yell at me for not bringing my money bag to the door with his $49.65 order. Just couldn't carry it with 4 pizzas and salads etc. He demanded I go get my bag before he paid me. Then he gave me a $50 and waited anxiously for his 35 cents in change.

I quit about then because I knew if I had another delivery to that house I'd be including the secret sauce. He was 8 miles out of town in Lewisville to make it even better. Some people are so damn cheap. Marginal service deserves at least 10 %, decent service 20%, good service above that. Although I do not always tip for someone who just rings up your take out order.

It does get a bit fatiguing that everyone wants a tip for just ringing you up. If I'm eating in and they are actually serving me I tend to tip well. If I'm walking into little ceasers to pick up a hot and ready and it's not ready I'm not going to tip 20% for ringing me up. Not everyone gets a trophy.

Bb
Posted By: Teal Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by hillestadj
The sockpuppet is transforming into his final form, watch closely

Smells more like Old_Toot/Houston running a spare than Cardonas.
Posted By: DaveR Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by slumlord
Paint your canoe black

It will never tip

I've heard them referred to as "Spodas". Spoda tip but don't.
Posted By: gonehuntin Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Isn't America like the Only Nation On Earth that waitstaff subsist on tips???
Posted By: killerv Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by DaveR
Originally Posted by slumlord
Paint your canoe black

It will never tip

I've heard them referred to as "Spodas". Spoda tip but don't.

They drink good stuff too. Noticed a group come into a bar awhile back, downed some quick shots of Patron, tab was 60 something bucks. Didn't tip squat. Not to mention, come meal time, most find issue with something and expect a free meal, and of course, dont tip.

Tipping is racist according to them, it was a way for an employer to pay someone a minimal amount after slavery ended and expect the consumer to pay most of the "salary".
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Isn't America like the Only Nation On Earth that waitstaff subsist on tips???

How do the eateries make a go of it?
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by hillestadj
The sockpuppet is transforming into his final form, watch closely
Smells more like Old_Toot/Houston running a spare than Cardonas.
Houston 2oot
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
I enjoy tipping
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Tipping - 12/01/22
I agree IronBender.
Posted By: Dude270 Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by hillestadj
The sockpuppet is transforming into his final form, watch closely
Smells more like Old_Toot/Houston running a spare than Cardonas.
Houston 2oot


That's been my thought as well
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Cash and tip goes to waitress.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Since this got bumped up I’ll contribute some updated info….a local small business here is owned by a lady I know and she has a small staff of young ladies that are very good and very professional for what they do. All the girls make $15 an hour so it’s the tips that they’re really hoping for. The main full time gal made $160,000 last year!….and not because she worked any overtime. She never makes less than $300 in a 6 or 7 hour shift. Another young lady there works part time and at 16 is bringing home $75-$100 for a 4 or 5 hour shift. That young lady is able to save her paychecks untouched and live comfortably on the tips she makes in her part time job.
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Isn't America like the Only Nation On Earth that waitstaff subsist on tips???

How do the eateries make a go of it?

Just like every other business, they pay their employees a wage and charge enough to cover the costs & make a profit.

I travel overseas for a living and no other place does the crazy tipping thing like the US. In most of Asia you don’t tip at all, it’s considered insulting. In Europe it’s just leave the change usually, more than 5% would be excessive. The touristy places who see a lot of Americans get hooked on the 20% plus thing though.

The US system is an outgrowth of our Harvard MBA greed at any cost mentality. Businesses figured out years ago they could shift the labor cost of their employees onto the customers and shame the customer into paying it by painting them as cheapskates if they didn’t go along. It worked and now it’s become a badge of honor to try to outdo the neighbor on how much you can tip. Meanwhile the business owner is laughing all the way to the bank because he got a bunch of suckers to take over the cost of paying his labor.
Posted By: Teal Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
How is - "Businesses figured out years ago they could shift the labor cost of their employees onto the customers" different than "Just like every other business, they pay their employees a wage and charge enough to cover the costs & make a profit"- given its the customer paying in both instances.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Isn't America like the Only Nation On Earth that waitstaff subsist on tips???

How do the eateries make a go of it?

Just like every other business, they pay their employees a wage and charge enough to cover the costs & make a profit.

I travel overseas for a living and no other place does the crazy tipping thing like the US. In most of Asia you don’t tip at all, it’s considered insulting. In Europe it’s just leave the change usually, more than 5% would be excessive. The touristy places who see a lot of Americans get hooked on the 20% plus thing though.

The US system is an outgrowth of our Harvard MBA greed at any cost mentality. Businesses figured out years ago they could shift the labor cost of their employees onto the customers and shame the customer into paying it by painting them as cheapskates if they didn’t go along. It worked and now it’s become a badge of honor to try to outdo the neighbor on how much you can tip. Meanwhile the business owner is laughing all the way to the bank because he got a bunch of suckers to take over the cost of paying his labor.

But as I understand it, if the prices included the actual cost of paying the help they would be so high that no one would consider paying them, and the business would fail - why does this not happen in the rest of the world? (Not arguing with you as you make perfect sense.)
Posted By: Hastings Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by Poconojack
I enjoy tipping
Why?
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by 5sdad
But as I understand it, if the prices included the actual cost of paying the help they would be so high that no one would consider paying them, and the business would fail - why does this not happen in the rest of the world? (Not arguing with you as you make perfect sense.)

The argument that they would fail if they had to pay their help is a bait and switch. It’s a bunch of BS that makes them more money. As you mentioned restaurants make money in other countries without this ridiculous system and a meal in Germany, the UK, or Japan doesn’t cost any more than one in US from my experience. They try to sell the idea because it increases their profit margin.

It’s really no different than the BS $300 “document fee” that car dealerships try to tack onto the price when you buy a car. They try to paint it as a necessary expense but in reality it’s just pure profit and they’re hoping you’re a sucker who will fall for it. Filling out paperwork is a part of almost any transaction, I’m not paying you extra to do your job.

It really is a ludicrous system and until you travel like I do you don’t realize what suckers we are. Just look at the number of guys on this thread that buy into it.
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by Teal
How is - "Businesses figured out years ago they could shift the labor cost of their employees onto the customers" different than "Just like every other business, they pay their employees a wage and charge enough to cover the costs & make a profit"- given its the customer paying in both instances.

It’s marketing. It’s a lot easier to get someone to pay $49.50 and leave a $15 tip than to have him see $65 on the bill. Our lizard brains think we’re getting a better deal with the first when in reality it’s the same. It’s the same reason prices in stores are $9.99 instead of $10.

It’s a way to make someone think they’re getting something for 20% less than they’re really paying.
Posted By: hanco Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
There are a lot of cheap bastards out there that tip little or nothing. Blacks and orientals are the worst, Meskins are cheap too
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by hanco
There are a lot of cheap bastards out there that tip little or nothing. Blacks and orientals are the worst, Meskins are cheap too

That’s because Mexicans and Orientals don’t usually tip much or any where they’re from, they’re not used to our system. Blacks are just blacks, they’re always going to try to get something for nothing.

Watch a Frenchman or an Australian at a restaurant in the US, they’re not going to tip more than about 5% either.

And before anyone says it, I’m a very good tipper in the U.S. I’m not going to stiff the waitstaff because of a screwed up system. I just recognize how fugged up and out of control it is because I travel overseas all the time. We’re the only place that does this stuff.
Posted By: Charlie-NY Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Some things just get out of hand. Along with my dinner I usually order a glass of wine for my wife and myself. They charged $18 a glass. $36 for two glasses of wine is just silly but then you can add on the 8.75% sales tax, and don't forget to add on the 20% gratuity for putting the glasses on the table, and lastly add another 3% because I had the audacity to put our dining experience on my matercard. That's just for a single round which is rare. Two glasses of wine each adds nearly $100 to the bill when all is said and done.

Overall, restaurant prices around here are way up. Then you add all the fees associated with eating out and the bill gets very high rather quickly. As much as I like to go out once in a while, I feel like I'm getting fleeced at every turn.
Posted By: WMR Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by hanco
There are a lot of cheap bastards out there that tip little or nothing. Blacks and orientals are the worst, Meskins are cheap too

This, really. Though there are plenty of skinflint's of every race. The love of money runs deep and selfishness is a common human trait.
Posted By: Hastings Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by WMR
Originally Posted by hanco
There are a lot of cheap bastards out there that tip little or nothing. Blacks and orientals are the worst, Meskins are cheap too
This, really. Though there are plenty of skinflint's of every race. The love of money runs deep and selfishness is a common human trait.
So if I'm careful with expenditures I'm a skinflint? Small expenses and tack-ons is what makes you broke, the big stuff is easy to see and control. My wife tips when we eat at a place we get waited on but I'm keeping my money in my pocket when I can. As I said earlier I go to places where I can walk up to the counter, but some of them have the audacity to have a tip jar and a place on the ticket for tips.

Everybody has their hand out. Recently my security alarm company tried to tack on an extra $100 for swapping out the cell phone transmitter to 4G or 5G whatever that is. When I told them "no dice I have a service contract" they dropped it immediately.

The Fraternal Order of Police calls constantly wanting donations. I tell them I am retired LE and LE is well taken care of in benefits. Likewise all these not for profit NGOs and Veteran help groups. If you look into it there are huge salaries and fundraising costs associated.

The NRA quit calling finally.
Posted By: WMR Re: Tipping - 12/02/22
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by WMR
Originally Posted by hanco
There are a lot of cheap bastards out there that tip little or nothing. Blacks and orientals are the worst, Meskins are cheap too
This, really. Though there are plenty of skinflint's of every race. The love of money runs deep and selfishness is a common human trait.
So if I'm careful with expenditures I'm a skinflint? Small expenses and tack-ons is what makes you broke, the big stuff is easy to see and control. My wife tips when we eat at a place we get waited on but I'm keeping my money in my pocket when I can. As I said earlier I go to places where I can walk up to the counter, but some of them have the audacity to have a tip jar and a place on the ticket for tips.

Everybody has their hand out. Recently my security alarm company tried to tack on an extra $100 for swapping out the cell phone transmitter to 4G or 5G whatever that is. When I told them "no dice I have a service contract" they dropped it immediately.

The Fraternal Order of Police calls constantly wanting donations. I tell them I am retired LE and LE is well taken care of in benefits. Likewise all these not for profit NGOs and Veteran help groups. If you look into it there are huge salaries and fundraising costs associated.

The NRA quit calling finally.

Though you may be a miser, it sounds more like you are a frugal person who appreciates the value of money and the importance of managing it. Being a good steward is not the same as being a tightwad. I guess the difference is in the heart. Tip jars where no personal service is rendered? Me neither. Well, maybe a little if the counter cutie smiles at me :-)
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