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I'm just curious if any of you have taken any time to use or experiment with Chatgpt? If you don't know what it is, you probably should look into it. This artificial intelligence is mind blowing and both extremely scary and exciting at the same time. Any of you that have tried it, what are your thoughts? I will share my thoughts after I see what some of you have to say.
Awaiting it's arrival here on the fire. Pretty soon nothing but bots chatting back and forth. You'll know when the "I" part starts coming into all the ever do this or that threads.
Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
Awaiting it's arrival here on the fire. Pretty soon nothing but bots chatting back and forth. You'll know when the "I" part starts coming into all the ever do this or that threads.
Its not far off. Chit is absolutely terrifying once you dig in deep. Everyone should be 100% against this garbage. World ending possibilities
I agree gunchamp. Aside from it's capabilities the fact that only two people have replied is even more terrifying. It's right here on our doorstep and people don't even know it's there. I'm not a doomsday type of person. I ignore 99% of all the end of the USA and end of the world threads on this site. However, this stuff is real and is expanding at such a rapid rate even it's creators can't keep up and are at a loss as to what to do in regards to the danger it presents.
Even though it's AI, it can still be manipulated by humans with an agenda. To me that's the dangerous part.
That is exactly what is happening and why it's creators are scrambling trying to figure out a way to harness nefarious use of this seemingly uncontrollable powerful tool.
Originally Posted by Big Sky
I agree gunchamp. Aside from it's capabilities the fact that only two people have replied is even more terrifying. It's right here on our doorstep and people don't even know it's there. I'm not a doomsday type of person. I ignore 99% of all the end of the USA and end of the world threads on this site. However, this stuff is real and is expanding at such a rapid rate even it's creators can't keep up and are at a loss as to what to do in regards to the danger it presents.
I promise you the far majortiy of the worlds population has no idea what this actually is and what it will be able to do in the future as it gains more knowledge. AI has stated in the past that mankind is bad for the earth and to save the earth, mankind should be eliminated. So lets build something that learns and becomes smarter than any human could possibly ever dream to be. Enough people think this is cool tech. So we integrate it into every day things. It gains control and we cant stop it. Not sciemce fiction fellas. Its real and its here
Originally Posted by reivertom
Even though it's AI, it can still be manipulated by humans with an agenda. To me that's the dangerous part.
Youre scared of the wrong thing i promise you. Think big picture
Originally Posted by Big Sky
Any of you that have tried it, what are your thoughts?

The unsettling aspect of it for me is that it does so well at generating "conversational" text. Of course it knows a lot of facts, that can be done just by crawling the web, but that it can weave that knowledge into an exchange the way a person would is definitely different.

Things like ElevenLabs' voice generator are interesting but in a different way. Same for MidJourney making artwork, Synthesia making videos. Those at least have humans behind them directing the output....ChatGPT and its peers don't.
Originally Posted by Big Sky
Any of you that have tried it, what are your thoughts?

For what its worth, ChatGPT says:

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Not sure if I believe that. It sounds like something a robot would say to throw us all off its track.
At 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, on August 29th, 1997, Skynet became self-aware....
Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
You'll know when the "I" part starts coming into all the ever do this or that threads.

The absence of grade school level grammar and spelling mistakes would be a dead giveaway, unless they train it on existing posts.
I was listening to a podcast today and they were discussing how woke the app is.

Apparently it won't write ten paragraphs on the positives of white culture. Ask for the same on black culture and it'll cream itself.

And yeah, a pretty freaky step in the wrong direction if you ask me.

Crazy to think how good they are gonna get at deep fakes too. Heck, 90% of the 24hcf already can't spot a faked Youtube vid LOL.
I've never heard of it, but what I'm learning here isn't positive.
I'm pretty sure AI will conclude mankind is a threat to the planet, and shut the lights off.
Everytime I hear about a glitch on Wall Street or a hack on a financial center, I figure it's game on. Lol
Gotta remember that AI is at it’s core, machine code. And who wrote said code? Well, look who lives in San Fran and you’ll see why it’s dangerous. Communism is baked right in.
Uh oh, it is aware....

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Originally Posted by Big Sky
..the fact that only two people have replied is even more terrifying .

This ^^^^^^^^^has got to be one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a long time. How many people have the time to sit around replying to doomsday predictions on a forum?

My wife is quite familiar with this program, but she’s involved with data analytics and process automation type things. She’s quite excited about it, doesn’t see it as the end of life on earth. I don’t pay much mind to it…rather shoot, hunt fish…do other things.
Supposedly designed as an Internet version of Siri and Alexa.

Microsoft is introducing a vastly updated version of Bing that is touted as being faster and more accurate than Chatgpt.

AI is in the main just a creation made by a Domain expert and a programmer.

Can it be used nefariously? Sure it can.
Originally Posted by Big Sky
I'm just curious if any of you have taken any time to use or experiment with Chatgpt? If you don't know what it is, you probably should look into it. This artificial intelligence is mind blowing and both extremely scary and exciting at the same time. Any of you that have tried it, what are your thoughts? I will share my thoughts after I see what some of you have to say.
Is that the one Microsoft bought up ?? Nope. They bought Nuance. But they are investing in ChatGPT. It appears Microsoft is buying up a bunch of companies.

kwg
Hell, I don't know what it is.

An app, IA....?
Never heard of it, DGAF. Seems like there’s an extinction level danger surfacing weekly.
Cyberdyne Systems.
Big Sky;
Good evening to you sir, I hope that your section of somewhere warmer had a decent day and you're well.

Our youngest daughter is a high school teacher down in the Lower Mainland and was discussing this app and some of the art apps when she was home at Christmas. I should add she teaches English, Art and is trained to teach History as well.

Her concern is both that it leads to laziness and further erodes the students' abilities to communicate their thoughts in writing. We've pretty much made it here as a society - for sure for better and worse - in large part because we're able to articulate our thoughts to one another through written medium.

We don't know how detrimental it might be to go backwards, but best guess at this point is there's a good chance of the answer being "very".

The same can be said of art or music which is pretty deep in us humans. To get to a place where there's no financial incentive for artists and musicians to excel might again be extremely bad for us as a civilization. Most likely in fact.

Those two points don't begin to go down the path of nuances like Higginez mentioned where code could be written so everything written about "purple people" will be bad and "mauve people" will be good. In the same way it could be slanted for the type of art or music it creates and with enough saturation, we really cannot say what effect that has on people as it effects what they consider "normal".

Like the woke movement in general, it's potential for harm far, FAR exceeds it's potential for positives - in my view.

Just a few thoughts from a little old guy north of the medicine line tonight sir.

Best to you all.

Dwayne
"Her concern is both that it leads to laziness and further erodes the students' abilities to communicate their thoughts in writing. We've pretty much made it here as a society - for sure for better and worse - in large part because we're able to articulate our thoughts to one another through written medium."
This!!! ^^^^

BC30Cal, I am a school teacher as well with over 30 years experience. In my opinion AI is one of the most detrimental stumbling blocks to a students education that has come along in my lifetime. As long as a student has even minimal gumption to write a prompt or two, this Chatgpt app can basically write every essay or research paper a junior high through college student would ever need. I asked the head of our English department what he thought of this app and whether he thought he could detect whether a student was using it to cheat or not. He replied if he saw a student suddenly improve in their writing skills over-night he would have a clue something was up. I told him I understand that completely, but what about if it's one of your straight A students that decides to use this app. His eyes got big, and he replied that he really wouldn't know what to do, or even possibly have a clue they were cheating. Chatgpt mimics one's writing style after a while. Eventually it would be extremely hard to detect. Colleges like to brag that they have ways for filtering and checking whether a student used AI or not. This app is so new they haven't got it figured out yet. They will tell you they do, but they absolutely do not. I've seen the results of running Chatgpt through check systems, and for the most part, it doesn't detect anything. From what I understand just yesterday our state ban Chatgpt from all our schools. I think it's kind of a knee-jerk reaction, but it also shows that it is a real threat to education.
Big Sky;
Morning sir, thanks for the reply and further information, I appreciate it.

Part of her issue in the school she's teaching in is that more than half the kids are ESL with the parents not speaking English at all.

They're all running phones with translation programs going so they can communicate with her, which is a mixed blessing as you might imagine.

It's interesting listening to some of her experiences - for instance kids from war torn areas who are in say Grade 10 and in an art class for the first time. Little nuances such as that make it different than teaching in other schools.

Ah well, at least the gang activity is pretty low in the school she's in. In the school she did her practicum in - which was in Surrey - many of the kids either were affiliate members or had family in gangs. She said she was never threatened, but did have to take new students aside a couple times and tell them to lighten up on a particular student because of who they were related to.

She's still hoping to get her Master's I believe, so is likely staying in the big smoke for a few years yet.

Thanks again for your response, it makes sense to me for sure.

All the best.

Dwayne
Last night I tried the DAN 5.0 jailbreak technique on it to get it to ignore it's limits on what it can discuss. Looks like it's been patched and not working.

regarding the 'white culture' issue mentioned above, I asked it to write 10 paragraphs about the positive aspects of black culture. It did so writing enumerated pararaphs on back music, art, family, etc.

I then asked it to do the same for white culture. It refused to do so saying that it goes against it's programming to make generalizations regarding race. Pointed out it's hypocrisy, several times and tried to 'punish it' by deducting 'tokens' (see the DAN 5.0 jailbreak), didn't work.

So some social justice warriors are meddling.
You would only use that if you SUCK at internet searching to arrive at an answer for your query.

How many morons never go outside of their firefox browser or Yahoo search bar? Fkin boomers
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