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Posted By: shrapnel Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
This is a custom model 70 that someone has shortened the bolt and integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet. I am having a hard time deciding if I should get it…



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Posted By: Jeffrey Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
If you’re posting it here you already know what the answer to your dilemma is. 😉
Posted By: papat Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Yes you should
Posted By: Jeffrey Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
And that rifle is beautiful.
Posted By: Teal Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Do it!


IIRC Roy Dunlap showed how to do that bolt/action modification in his Gunsmithing book.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
It's sure a beauty.
Posted By: kaboku68 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Hell Yeah git it. Get the one next to it too!
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
You should wait for a nicer one…….😛
Posted By: Anteloper Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
It’ll be Sad to see it get blown up
Posted By: Marley7x57 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
I would buy it. Let me know details if you do not.
Posted By: rainshot Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Yeah it’s a keeper.
Posted By: OGB Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Said it before and I'll say it again,

The ones I regret are the ones I let get away.....
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Beauty.

need to time that rear trigger guard screw though. whistle
Posted By: Squidge Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Scratch that itch.
Posted By: SamOlson Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
You have my full support.
Posted By: RS308MX Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Beauty.

need to time that rear trigger guard screw though. whistle



😁👍
Posted By: HawkI Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
That gun has you written all over it.
Posted By: RS308MX Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Originally Posted by shrapnel
This is a custom model 70 that someone has shortened the bolt and integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet. I am having a hard time deciding if I should get it…



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Get it. If you don't like it, sell it to Marley 7x57!
Posted By: Mathsr Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Beautiful rifle!
Posted By: navlav8r Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
That’s a real beauty. I’d be hard pressed to walk away from that one. 😁
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Price?

The wonder is, does it feed correctly?


🦫
Posted By: MikeS Re: Gun Show Find - 03/10/23
Beautiful!!!

But is it "twisted" right? laugh
Posted By: Marley7x57 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by RS308MX
Originally Posted by shrapnel
This is a custom model 70 that someone has shortened the bolt and integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet. I am having a hard time deciding if I should get it…

Get it. If you don't like it, sell it to Marley 7x57!

I do like model 70 hornets. Got 3 so room for one more!

The real question is "who was the gunsmith?"
Posted By: Direct_Drive Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Mini Model 70
You don't see those every day !
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Beatiful stock, what kind of wood is it?
Posted By: Armednfree Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by Teal
IIRC Roy Dunlap showed how to do that bolt/action modification in his Gunsmithing book.

That's going way back. As I remember though he took two Mauser actions and made a magnum action for the 375 H+H case length. But if you think about it once you cut out that center section all you have to do is take what's left and make a mini Mauser action.
Posted By: Tarquin Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
How much are they asking?
Posted By: BigDutch Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
You have our permission, go get it now.👹
Posted By: shrapnel Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Some big money guys are trying to buy it and a dozen other guns on a package deal. I don’t know if I can get it now. He wants $4000.00..
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Good thing them kids don't need new shoes.
Posted By: longarm Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
I'd buy it just for the wood!

ETA: $4k? I'm out!
Posted By: GeoW Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Will we see it on the Classifieds soon?
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
I'm interested in the full stocked beauty next to it. What is it?
Posted By: CBB Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Looks like a CZ 527 to me
Posted By: Marley7x57 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Some big money guys are trying to buy it and a dozen other guns on a package deal. I don’t know if I can get it now. He wants $4000.00..

Fair price. Sure wish I was there to get my hands on it!
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by CBB
Looks like a CZ 527 to me
I thought so, I am wondering what cartridge it's chambered for.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Price?

The wonder is, does it feed correctly?


🦫
That would be important to know.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
I'd do it, but ask yourself this: What if I drop it and it gets scratched?

DD

PS: I don't drop guns. Never have, never will.
Posted By: CharlieFoxtrot Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Get it. No question. She's a beaut! I'm salivating over that Beretta case too. Those are hard to find.
Posted By: OldmanoftheSea Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by Pappy348
You should wait for a nicer one…….😛
You forgot to ask for the listing link...
Posted By: WhiteFawn Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Could you have a copy made for what it costs?
Posted By: MickeyD Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
You know you're going to regret not buying it if you don't.
Posted By: pal Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
It really is a beauty. But I'll bet you don't need it. wink
Posted By: muleshoe Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by SamOlson
You have my full support.


Ditto
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Oh yeah, 4 grand for a bastard someone took a sawzall to. Good plan, I think you should offer him $6K big spender! LOL
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
If I'm spending your money, sure why not - scoop it up.
Posted By: shrapnel Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
I got it…
Posted By: shrapnel Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Oh yeah, 4 grand for a bastard someone took a sawzall to. Good plan, I think you should offer him $6K big spender! LOL


Seriously, you would offer that much?
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Haha, one born every minute.
Posted By: GeoW Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Price?

The wonder is, does it feed correctly?


🦫
That would be important to know.

Matters not as ammo and components are unobtainium.
Posted By: Dave_Skinner Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
My gracious me oh my.

You deserve it, Shrap. That is lovely work -- hope it SHOOOOOOOTS!

My goodness.
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by shrapnel
I got it…

Good, now get the butt and inside the grip cap checkered.
Posted By: TimZ Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Congrats Shrap, that’s a beauty…..
Posted By: Barney_Fife Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
What's the 411 on the FS next to it??????
Posted By: navlav8r Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Way to go. I would have gone for it too. 😁
Posted By: CCCC Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by shrapnel
This is a custom model 70 that someone has shortened the bolt and integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet. I am having a hard time deciding if I should get it…



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That is a beautiful rifle and the wood pattern and stock work are elegant. No wonder it is tempting.

A question: I have a M54 that came from Win as a .22 Hornet, and have seen a couple in the M70. But, am having trouble figuring out "integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet". Can you give me a breakdown on that? Thanks.
Posted By: shrapnel Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Haha, one born every minute.


Does that mean you weren't really serious?
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Good find shrap!
Posted By: MPat70 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Beautiful wood on that Shrap! Congrats!
Posted By: HalH Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Great rifle. Any idea who made it ?
Get out and put it to work. smile
Hal
Posted By: HawkI Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Price?

The wonder is, does it feed correctly?


🦫
That would be important to know.

Matters not as ammo and components are unobtainium.


I don't think he will have that problem.
Posted By: MickeyD Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by shrapnel
I got it…
It's a sickness with no known cure....





And I'm jealous!
Posted By: mark shubert Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
I'm having a hard time wondering why you are asking!
Posted By: Marley7x57 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by shrapnel
I got it…

Great snag there.

When you get tired of it give me a call!
Posted By: JohnBurns Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Pretty rifle but not something I would buy.

That's what make the Fire an interesting place.

At least it has a Leupold mounted but that out of time screw on the floorplate would bug me on that type of rifle.

Hope it shoots great.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by shrapnel
This is a custom model 70 that someone has shortened the bolt and integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet. I am having a hard time deciding if I should get it…



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That is a beautiful rifle and the wood pattern and stock work are elegant. No wonder it is tempting.

A question: I have a M54 that came from Win as a .22 Hornet, and have seen a couple in the M70. But, am having trouble figuring out "integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet". Can you give me a breakdown on that? Thanks.

All M54 and pre64 M70 receivers are long action and identical in length. Shorter cartridges used the same receiver and the bolt throw was shortened by using special extractor rings and longer ejectors. Magazine boxes used different followers, crimps, partitions and inserts that were unique to the different cartridge classes.
The maker of this gun shortened a pre64 Transition Model 70 receiver and bolt and crafted internals specific to the 22 Hornet. Think Sako L461 Vixen.
Posted By: Jericho Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
That rifle is cheaper than a divorce.........
Posted By: luv2safari Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Some big money guys are trying to buy it and a dozen other guns on a package deal. I don’t know if I can get it now. He wants $4000.00..


You might have one built for that price and have it done 100% your way.
Posted By: CCCC Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by Poconojack
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by shrapnel
This is a custom model 70 that someone has shortened the bolt and integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet. I am having a hard time deciding if I should get it…



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That is a beautiful rifle and the wood pattern and stock work are elegant. No wonder it is tempting.

A question: I have a M54 that came from Win as a .22 Hornet, and have seen a couple in the M70. But, am having trouble figuring out "integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet". Can you give me a breakdown on that? Thanks.

All M54 and pre64 M70 receivers are long action and identical in length. Shorter cartridges used the same receiver and the bolt throw was shortened by using special extractor rings and longer ejectors. Magazine boxes used different followers, crimps, partitions and inserts that were unique to the different cartridge classes.
The maker of this gun shortened a pre64 Transition Model 70 receiver and bolt and crafted internals specific to the 22 Hornet. Think Sako L461 Vixen.
Thanks for this fulsome and well written explanation. I had gone to look at my M54 with its unusual mag/follower setup, but had thought the pictured rifle was a .22 Hornet originally. So, I was confused about the operation. That was a bunch of skilled work. The rifle looks great to me.
Posted By: CCCC Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Pretty rifle but not something I would buy.
That's what make the Fire an interesting place.
At least it has a Leupold mounted but that out of time screw on the floorplate would bug me on that type of rifle. Hope it shoots great.
Did I miss a picture of the floor plate and screw?
Posted By: JohnBurns Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Pretty rifle but not something I would buy.
That's what make the Fire an interesting place.
At least it has a Leupold mounted but that out of time screw on the floorplate would bug me on that type of rifle. Hope it shoots great.
Did I miss a picture of the floor plate and screw?

Hard to miss in the OP.
Posted By: shootAI Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
CCCC. look above in the grip cap photo.
Posted By: mrmarklin Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
I would only buy this rifle as a shooter. The wood is wonderful, but the mods ruin any serious value. So I would only pay if I was going to use it.
Posted By: CCCC Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Pretty rifle but not something I would buy.
That's what make the Fire an interesting place.
At least it has a Leupold mounted but that out of time screw on the floorplate would bug me on that type of rifle. Hope it shoots great.
Did I miss a picture of the floor plate and screw?

Hard to miss in the OP. Really?


Originally Posted by shootAI
CCCC. look above in the grip cap photo.
Hey guys, thanks - but I had seen the grip cap.

The post talked about a "screw on the floorplate". Indeed the floorplate is not hard to miss - can't find the pic. Thanks anyway.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by Poconojack
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by shrapnel
This is a custom model 70 that someone has shortened the bolt and integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet. I am having a hard time deciding if I should get it…



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That is a beautiful rifle and the wood pattern and stock work are elegant. No wonder it is tempting.

A question: I have a M54 that came from Win as a .22 Hornet, and have seen a couple in the M70. But, am having trouble figuring out "integrated the magazine into the shorter action in 22 Hornet". Can you give me a breakdown on that? Thanks.

All M54 and pre64 M70 receivers are long action and identical in length. Shorter cartridges used the same receiver and the bolt throw was shortened by using special extractor rings and longer ejectors. Magazine boxes used different followers, crimps, partitions and inserts that were unique to the different cartridge classes.
The maker of this gun shortened a pre64 Transition Model 70 receiver and bolt and crafted internals specific to the 22 Hornet. Think Sako L461 Vixen.
Thanks for this fulsome and well written explanation. I had gone to look at my M54 with its unusual mag/follower setup, but had thought the pictured rifle was a .22 Hornet originally. So, I was confused about the operation. That was a bunch of skilled work. The rifle looks great to me.

Very likely that gun was originally a Hornet.
Posted By: Marley7x57 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/11/23
I would bet that it was but, would sure like to see the bolt face. Either way a very nice find.
Posted By: JohnBurns Re: Gun Show Find - 03/12/23
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by CCCC
Did I miss a picture of the floor plate and screw?

Hard to miss in the OP.


Originally Posted by shootAI
CCCC. look above in the grip cap photo.
Originally Posted by CCCC
Hey guys, thanks - but I had seen the grip cap.

The post talked about a "screw on the floorplate". Indeed the floorplate is not hard to miss - can't find the pic. Thanks anyway.


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Posted By: CCCC Re: Gun Show Find - 03/12/23
Thanks - was concentrated on the butt cap.
Posted By: rainierrifleco Re: Gun Show Find - 03/12/23
Originally Posted by Teal
Do it!


IIRC Roy Dunlap showed how to do that bolt/action modification in his Gunsmithing book.
I remember reading that I was fascinated by his skill
And willingness to undertake such a project
Posted By: shrapnel Re: Gun Show Find - 03/12/23
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Beauty.

need to time that rear trigger guard screw though. whistle


Always the critic, but not ignored…



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Posted By: 1911a1 Re: Gun Show Find - 03/12/23
lovely rifle. A many a hour was spent to create that beauty.
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