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Posted By: Ringman Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
Eight minute propaganda or good information?

https://vimeo.com/782700028?embedded=true&source=video_title&owner=11623230
Posted By: reivertom Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
How will they explain that there are more eagle now than there were over 50 years ago? Shouldn't the lead have killed them out by now? There are eagles thriving in my area, for the first time in my life and I'm 66. They started to be seen here and there about 10 years ago, and now they are regulars.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
DDT thinned the shells and caused low reproductive rates.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
Propaganda
Posted By: denton Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
The whole DDT thing was a hoax. As a result, a great many people died of malaria because we lost a cheap, effective mosquito killer.
Posted By: rainshot Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
The government bureaucrats pay no attention to facts. Ignorance and superstition supersede facts and logic in every case. It's the agenda that matters.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
Originally Posted by denton
The whole DDT thing was a hoax. As a result, a great many people died of malaria because we lost a cheap, effective mosquito killer.
As is this Lead poisoning hoax.
Posted By: justin10mm Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
Eagles, wolves, bears, cougars. Don't have a use for any of them and should be shot on sight.
Posted By: dennisinaz Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
The peregine funds had spread a lot of misinformation in AZ and CA with respect to the condors.
Posted By: Distridr Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
Originally Posted by justin10mm
Eagles, wolves, bears, cougars. Don't have a use for any of them and should be shot on sight.

Hawks and owls also.
Posted By: Redneck Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
Originally Posted by 12344mag
DDT thinned the shells and caused low reproductive rates.
That - not lead... Eagles abound here now..
Posted By: gunzo Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
Second known Eagle in my county for over 100 years & the first one known to die was reported to have died by, wouldn't you know it... lead poisoning.


I thought, how effing convenient. Though DDT was invented 65 years earlier it wasn't until 1939 that it was found to be effective on bugs. Eagles had disappeared in my neck of the woods way before that.
Posted By: las Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/03/23
DDT thinning bird shells wasn't a hoax. A few years after the ban, bald eagles showed up along the Missouri River in central ND, nesting in the big cottonwoods. I'd never seen a bald eagle until then, when I was about 17.

Probably lead shot in waterfowl feeding areas is a legit tissue, especially for bottom feeders. BS for upland bird hunting, as the concentration of exposed lead pellets would be pretty thin. Probably for the condor thing also.

I suspect shooting PDs with lead bullets MAY have an impact on the local scavengers, if enough PDs are shot, then scavenged by them.

I seriously doubt big game kills with lead bullets contribute much to the issue, if issue it is.

Gut piles? I try to avoid shooting BG in the guts, and take the wound channel and surrounding meat out of the field with me. I doubt many lead fragments are left behind/"fall to the bottom" (a barrel of water and an animal are worlds apart!) and are consumed by scavengers- not on recovered animals - but maybe on shot and lost ones.

Calling BS on the big game part.

Besides, I almost never recover a bullet from the carcass anyway.

Video is propaganda to sell copper bullets, specifically Hammer bullets.

Who paid for the video production?
Posted By: greydog Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/04/23
Originally Posted by denton
The whole DDT thing was a hoax. As a result, a great many people died of malaria because we lost a cheap, effective mosquito killer.
And yet, the human population seems to be doing OK, so I wouldn't sweat it. GD
Posted By: Bigvalleyboy Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/04/23
Originally Posted by greydog
Originally Posted by denton
The whole DDT thing was a hoax. As a result, a great many people died of malaria because we lost a cheap, effective mosquito killer.
And yet, the human population seems to be doing OK, so I wouldn't sweat it. GD


Millions if not tens of millions of very young children have died because of the ban on DDT.
Posted By: dennisinaz Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/04/23
I got into a pretty good argument with a biologist on the Kaibab a few years ago. Every road in the unit had barricades up with signage begging people to use copper bullets. They were offering rewards and such to participants. I didn't make any friends at the check station
Posted By: Just a Hunter Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/04/23
I am betting windmills kill more eagles than lead.
Copper is over $4 per lb. If all bullets go to monolithic you won't be able to afford to shoot. That's what they intend and the EPA and environmentalism will be part of the mechanism that kills ammo supplies. Meanwhile the US govt has a stockpile of depleted uranium munitions and Great Britain donated such DU rounds to the Ukrainians.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/04/23
I'm not disputing the value of mono bullets, have never fired one.
And don't need them.


This crap does ensure I will not use them unless forced.
Just a Hard Headed A-hole that way!
Posted By: mark shubert Re: Lead bullet killer - 05/04/23
Originally Posted by las
I suspect shooting PDs with lead bullets MAY have an impact on the local scavengers, if enough PDs are shot, then scavenged by them.

I seriously doubt big game kills with lead bullets contribute much to the issue, if issue it is.

I've never seen a PD stop a bullet - and darned few large animals.
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