Sounds kind of grim....

Fuggin Canadian military is a bunch of puzzies. 3/4 of the NATO member nations are puzzies. Why, because we foot the fuggin bill whilst they spend their money on other chit.

I’m a nationalist like Trump and Putin !

My body is riddled with scars and missing parts, many have died for these fuggin panty waste !

Tired of shedding blood for fucgks !

Fugg every one of them !

Pretty dead on.

What does Steve Redgwell the noted Canadian military, public health, and political expert have to say?

Did Canada ever have a draft board system?

2ndwind;
Good evening to you sir, I hope your part of the world had a decent day and you're well.

There was conscription during WWII, which began in 1942 but was a political football in that 80% of Canada outside Quebec was in favor of it, but 72% of Quebec was against it. In the end there were something like 12,000 men conscripted and about 2,400 of those saw overseas service. There were 1.1 million Canadians who served directly in that conflict, out of a total population of 12 million so a reasonably high per capita participation.

As for the video and of course this is only one Canuck's opinion, but I believe they understated some of the topics covered, missed some and some I'm not sure I can agree with their conclusions.

At the end of WWII we had either the 3rd or 4th largest navy - depending upon whose numbers one wants to take. The RCAF was smaller, but still was equipped with up to date planes, etc.

Why did it shrink to where it's at today?

There are lots of reasons - again in my view - some of which were budgetary for sure and some were pressure from the US and Britain to take certain courses of action like NATO, NORAD instead of the Avro Arrow jets among others.

It's a huge topic and there's no simple answer to undoing what's been happening for a long time but our involvement in Afghanistan did change public perception of the military to a positive one. That said, the bought and paid for Canadian legacy media were on board with that and that's a not insignificant part of the issue here.

Anyways, there's a couple thoughts from a semi-old guy who tries to pay attention to such details.

All the best.

Dwayne

So Canada had 12,000 men conscripted for WW11 and we lost 416,000+? That's wrong.

teamprairiedog;
Good evening sir, I hope all is well in flyover country.

Indeed I screwed up at least one thing in my reply which read 1.1 Canadians and should have read 1.1 million Canadians were in some branch of the service.

The US had 16 million in various branches of the service.

I'm not clear if either list includes Merchant Marine for instance, so there is that.

Sorry about that.

Dwayne

Edit to add.

It looks like 45,000 Canadians were killed in action out of those 1.1 million

As I understand it, originally conscripted troops were for home defense only and were not going to be sent overseas, but they did send 2,400 in the end. Not sure how many casualties of those there were.

The clisest country with respectable military is Turkey. Send more military stuff to 🇺🇦.

620,000 Americans were killed during the Civil War .That`s really wrong . Start of The Military ,Industrial Complex. Anything for money.

Maybe as far as you’re concerned but I’ll take Canada on their worst day than Turkey on their best!

Have you ever been correct Slave?…I certainly have yet to see it. 😂

Turks SUCK !

They are only good at bullying their own people or squeezing DOD for chit !

And I’ll say it again, Canadian military is a bunch of puzzies

Thanks again for your perspective Dwayne. IIRC a Canadian sniper currently holds the World record for the longest confirmed kill?

If Russia invaded Turkey from the rear, do you think Greece would help?

😂

I was in Aviano Italy for the Kosovo bombing. Canada sent several F-18's with the pretty Maple leaf on the tail. CNN had pictures of them taking off. What didn't Canada send? Bombs, fuel, ground support personnel. I had to give the Intel pre-mission brief to them. They ate in US chow halls. Sure where a pretty plane though. Same thing in Kuwait. Pretty C-17 with a huge maple leaf on the tail. Everything else supplied by the US.

What could possibly justify a military for Canada?

The US drew down the standing military massively after the Civil War, and it was globally insignificant, when compared to the militaries in Europe, until WW I.

That's when the M.I.C. became entrenched in official federal government planning and budgets.

Canada's problems mirror those of our own. Namely, that their government is currently run by a would-be socialist tyrant.

Canada is huge, and it needs a decent military to defend itself. It has no hostile neighbor to threaten invasion, but in today's world, that's pretty much moot.

It won't happen, but if Canada would dissolve and become part of the US, there'd be no other nation of group of nations that could beat us in any way, either economically or militarily. We'd be the largest nation on earth with the most natural resources, with only the border of Mexico to seal off from land invasion.

(And we could tell the French idiots in Quebec to go back to the mother country.)

The US of A should control everything from the border of Columbia, South America to the north pole. Without the US of A, central America and Canada wouldn't exist.

"There were 1.1 million Canadians who served directly in that conflict, out of a total population of 12 million so a reasonably high per capita participation."

It's not Canadians, it's the Liberal Party which has intentionally done everything in its power to destroy, degrade, demoralize and beggar Canada's military. Since the 1970s, IIRC. Equipment wears out and gets replaced 20 years later. Contracts for new helicopters are stalled, delayed, finally signed, then cancelled, and begin fresh. All the same idiocy you see from the Democrats is mirrored by our idiots in the Liberal party.

My dad lost one uncle in WWI, another great-uncle was gassed but survived, and two other returned home. I can count at least six uncles/parental cousins who served in WWII, all returned safely.

Most Canadians volunteered for service.

To those ignorant few who think Canada's military are 'puzzies', do a little reading on our accomplishments.

The current USA government should not control chit.

grouseman;
Top of the morning to you sir, I trust that your part of Manitoba is getting the water and weather you need and that you're all well.

Thanks for highlighting the corrected response, I appreciate it.

If my math is right this morning after one cup of coffee, it indicates that the Canadian participation in WWII was 10.9% of the population while the US was 8.8%.

There's no factoring in the percentage of military aged men vs. everyone else and that's an important part of the data which we don't see.

Speaking broadly, I'd suggest that when John Diefenbaker was elected and scrapped the Avro Arrow as well as some other cuts in the military, we began a significant change in course as far as our military capabilities went. That's an oversimplification of course, but if I had to point to something it might be there?

It's not an unfixable situation I don't believe, but it would require the propaganda machines in media and schools to get on board in order to be successful.

One supposes this is another case of "we'll see"?

Thanks again and all the best.

Dwayne

grouseman;
Me again sir for round two as I see we were typing at the same time.

It's amazing that Canadian inner webs could load both at the same time, but there it is nonetheless...

Well stated on all counts with your post.

When I graduated in '80 I talked to recruiters and they were much less than enthusiastic about the state of affairs then. For sure Socks Senior gutted and undermined as much of our national underpinnings as he possibly could - funny there might be a trend there?

As mentioned before too, there were two uncles on Mom's side and in my wife's family all three boys volunteered but my father in law was told to go back and keep farming as they needed farmers.

Again, well said sir and all the best once more.

Dwayne

I believe you should use the phrase -
"The current USA government COULD not control [bleep]."
(Other than "elections")

Lagging behind massively in service member suicide?

Not true.
Chit is the ONLY thing they should control.

Beat me to it .

Look at the job we are doing of controlling anything here but school board meetings.

I had several squadron mates from Canada (also England) during my time in the AF. I would put any of them up against the Yanks and not come up short. They were good officers, great pilots, and great friends over the years. I would fly their wing anytime into anything. Unfortunately, BC was right - we have both been taken over by idiots that are wannabe tyrants and have done terrible things to the military of both countries. Hopefully, we can recover.

I asked a young man if he was sure he wanted to follow through with a plan to join the Air Force given the mandatory woke indoctrination. He said he thought he had his head on straight and would be OK. He signed a 6 year contract and seems to be having a good time so far.

I dearly love my country, but deeply despise it’s government.

As a Marine, I'm not too impressed with Canadians either, but the other day I was listening to a canafian chick, kelsi sheren. She signed up after 9/11. She wanted infantry but because of her size they put her in artillery. Damn bitch is hard core when she was talking about fallujah and other missions. At the time she was assigned to a body recovery missions with the brits.

She's into the weird stuff for her PTSD but if it works for her, who cares

https://brassandunity.com/pages/podcast

Exactly.

Why?

The Turks are a bunch of homosexual pedophiles.
Like you.

They are our neighbors to the north.

This was my best friend Howard S. Hicken a Canadian Captain Bomber Pilot. He died 2 years ago at 101 years.

In WWII he Flew a Halifax and Lancaster's for the RCA, he won the Distinguished Flying Cross after flying 32 missions over Germany in the deadliest bombing runs in Aviation History.

After That he flew Spitfires for the RAF, then after he finished his tour with the RAF he signed up with the United States Airforce to fly bombing runs over Japan. He was accepted and was about to leave when Truman Nuked them and ended the war.

By the way, your famous crew that flew the "Memphis Bell" only flew 25 missions vs. my friends Howard's 32.

Canadians are pussies?

News to me Muchacho!

He is the tall guy in the middle with his crew and with his airplane with his squadron. 2nd Picture of the coward at 100 with his wife Ethel

Johnny stroko is a retard.
Disregard him.

Thanks for the Heads Up Raferman, I was unaware lol

The Canadian military do more with less than just about any other military in the world.

Canadians, when in wargames against other NATO countries, including the US, it is not uncommon that the Canadians win the excerise. From pilots flying 1980 vintage legacy F18 Hornets, to several of the top 10 longest sniper kills, to infantry winning the exercise. No, they on't win ALL the time, but given the disparity in the equipment, it is surprising the Canadians win at all.

I saw on the news tonight that NATO countries, including Canada, agreed to spend 2% of the GDP on their militaries. Canada currently at 1.29%. The Liberals will NEVER spend to 2%. Nor will the NDP, if they ever win. I doubt the Conservatives will. Our economy has been so ravaged by the Trudeau Liberals, the Conservatives will have to spend money elsewhere to keep the nation solvent. The military loses again.

My next door neighbor and my best friend growing up came from a military serving family. His grandfather recieved the military cross in ww1. Fought in the trenches and IIRC was gassed. His uncle flew in the Battle of Britain, was a pilot for Air Canada after.

Canadian troops had a fearsome reputation in ww1, at least according to the Germans. They were considered savages and ruthless.

My grandfather was Knighted for services rendered to the Crown in WW2 for his role in the Pacific against the Japanese.

The lefts indoctrination of the USA was test marketed in Canada in the 70s. Remember all the commie American draft dodging, pot smoking, folk singing hippies from the 6os? Where do you think the went? Canada.

You are a moron.

My grandfather was in both world wars, 1 and 2.

He wasn't much for standing behind big brother for protection, but I feel our subverted government has put us in an embarrassing position.

Most Canadians I have known, would knock you on your ass, if you called them pussies! Just saying!

Canadian Soldiers fought their asses off in Kandahar, they weren’t afraid to exchange steel with bad guys at all.

I fought along side them on a few occasions, and I credit them with covering my teams ass multiple times.

Rogue;
Morning to you sir, I hope that the day down in your part of the world is unfolding with as little drama as it is up here and that you're well.

Thanks both for your service and for the kind words directed to my fellow Canadians.

If I'm not remembering wrong, there was a poster here years back who stated something similar. In that case I want to say he'd named the PPCLI - Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry which would have either been out of Edmonton or Shilo, depending which battalion.

All the best and thanks once more sir.

Dwayne

Great to hear!

I know many very tough Canadians that never were afraid to fight, including myself. I personally would never doubt the toughness and courage of our neighbors south of the border!

Thank you for your service Rogue

Canadian soldiers can be a force… Their government not so much…
According to the article Canadians are free loaders to their NATO commitments, but so are others.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/canada...tVariant=cx_160&cx_artPos=3#cxrecs_s

Those were special aircraft! Should have been mass produced.

Johnny Loco has chit for brains...

This conversation is a perfect example of of a no-nothing attempting to belittle others in order to feel bigger himself.

The Canadian military does a good job with the table scraps they are given by their government. They are an excellent ally and my experience with them, while limited, was always positive. They are good people who still have the values that used to mainstream in this country just 20 years ago.

Their government and our current government are atrocities in expensive suits. The PEOPLE of both countries are for the most part good and decent people.

Stop [bleep] on our neighbor and ally, and maybe try to learn more about them before spouting off.

Blame the Liberals, with help from PQ and NDP morons, for the state of Canada's armed forces. But every Canadian military I've ever met has been stiff.

Hahaha!

He sure don't like Canadians I guess.

I appreciated your answer. Thanks

Trudeau wants to destroy whats left of our military. He's trying to starve it out. He's afraid it will revolt when Canadians eventually pull their heads out of their asses and begin to realize his treasonous ambitions. He is a communist just like his father. Thinking pretty much 99.9% of military members would have no regrets putting a bullet in his brain if the order came down.

In the past, I'd talk to folks from countries not necessarily friendly to US.
Of course I'd go where I shouldn't, and ask about politics and such.

To a man, they would claim their countrymen "Like America, but not its government".

A good Brainwashed American my mind screamed BULLSHITE!

Of the People
By the People
For the People!
"We are the government. Right?"



Unfortunately. I know understand that sentiment.

I don't even give a shyte anymore what whoever keeps an eye on us thinks or does, fugg them, our governments have been subverted and only the retarded doesn't understand that.
They jump to assumptions on how much we value our lives and where the line is really drawn.

Well, considering Canada doesn't go around the world schitt-stirring like the US and its out-of-control "intelligence" agencies, maybe a small defense force for a quick response and a beefed up Coast Guard. I also like the concept of the Canadian Rangers.

We do have quite a few bored and pizzed off cowboys and indians.

Canada's military as a whole may be a joke, but the few Canadians I took care of out of Afghanistan seemed like pretty decent folk. Of course, I am a former 11B, so my judge of character is probably quite low.

Canada has just been a tick on our ass for a long time. There's some good people there but as a whole they've relied on us for a sense of security while they fund their social problems instead of their military. In fairness though so has most of Europe. With friends like them who needs enemas.

Bb

100% true. It's his fault and his fault alone that he's a moron.