It should have been squawking, commercial traffic and all. Aren’t they usually flown with some sort of external attachment as a redundancy stateside so radar can see them?
We’re on the approach here, and have a lot of AC come over low and slow every day, mostly C-17’s and commercial tube slugs. You get used to the sound and anything different gets your attention. Sometime yesterday, late afternoon or evening, something strange went over, maybe just a C-17 really, really low…I don’t know.
I wouldn't know schidt from apple butter on Eastern hunting, but from what I can glean here in the 'fire...Bubba Goodoboy got that aereoplane repurposed for a deerblind. Got the gunports spittin' feed corn and him a settin' in the bubble waitin' fer ol' mossyhorn to drop in. He ain't gonna be dialin' the Yew Ess Air Farce any time soon.
Has anything ever been invented like a GPS or a cellular type of tracking they could attach to a vehicle to track it? Or maybe a box that pings a location? That would be awesome.
Has anything ever been invented like a GPS or a cellular type of tracking they could attach to a vehicle to track it? Or maybe a box that pings a location? That would be awesome.
I went looking for this one but did not have any luck, you need a team or at least two to take on such an endeavor. Plus they did not have the hand held GPS like they have today, the next thing you know there is a search party looking for you instead of the plane.
Hell the Chinese probably have it halfway to Bidenjing by now.
From what I read - pilot ejected and is at the hospital. Wondering how the Chinese get a pilot into the F35 while still in the air.
I understand that. I mean recovering it from the water.
I was in the USN and a LSE (yellow shirt) on the flight deck of a small carrier. Lost two birds while I was aboard. A H-46 and a Harrier. Both were on a barge and headed to Norfolk Va. in less than a week.
I was thinking maybe the pilot was an operative of Bidenjing. Not out of the realm of possibilities. But I hope not.
If that stick is a Patriot God bless him and pray for a speedy recovery. Those ejections are pretty violent. Especially for spinal compression.
All the Navy/Marine jets I’m familiar with have a transponder that automatically squawks an “emergency code” of 7700 if the pilot ejects…if the transponder is receiving electrical power and is in either “normal” or “standby” mode. ATC is normally relying on the IFF (transponder) for position, altitude, etc. If the transponder is off or in standby, ATC would have to rely on a skin paint with the radar. Good luck. Maybe a complete electrical failure?…..it will eventually be figured out.
That feature can be disabled by maintenance or just turning the transponder off for ops over a hostile area but I doubt that was the case. We did that years ago off of Libya on some missions.
All the Navy/Marine jets I’m familiar with have a transponder that automatically squawks an “emergency code” of 7700 if the pilot ejects…if the transponder is receiving electrical power and is in either “normal” or “standby” mode. ATC is normally relying on the IFF (transponder) for position, altitude, etc. If the transponder is off or in standby, ATC would have to rely on a skin paint with the radar. Good luck. Maybe a complete electrical failure?…..it will eventually be figured out.
That feature can be disabled by maintenance or just turning the transponder off for ops over a hostile area but I doubt that was the case. We did that years ago off of Libya on some missions.
"complete electrical failure?" NAPA battery and bad ground cable (thanks, Hot Rod Lincoln)
Something doesn’t sound right. i got to call bullshit on pilot ejecting ant can’t find the plane. They could find my phone with a dead battery on the moon but can’t time that gazillion dollar plane.
My gut tells me no one ejected……….that plane be in Cuba!!!
Why did the pilot eject when the plane was in auto pilot? They call it pilot mishap--whatever that is
I would surmise the plane had some issue or was telling the pilot it had an issue. One that guaranteed a fireball upon landing. Set autopilot for spot out to sea where the plane doesn't take out 3 schools and a church. Get a favorable attitude for ejection and punch out.
The weird thing is, you'd think it would squawk 7700 the whole way once ejection happens - alerting everything that might track it to do so or transponder etc but if it went into the Atlantic at speed - there might not be much to find/survive?
Something doesn’t sound right. i got to call bullshit on pilot ejecting ant can’t find the plane. They could find my phone with a dead battery on the moon but can’t time that gazillion dollar plane.
My gut tells me no one ejected……….that plane be in Cuba!!!
🤣🤣🤣 They find the location of where the battery died. There's no guarantee that the phone will be there. 😉
OK, help me with this. I understand the radar signature not showing anything, but the military has to track the plane somehow - transponder; something. Unless manually over-ridden or part of the failure, why is that not being picked up? If it did crash, there isn't a signal provided? How, was that turned off too? Are they really wanting us to think that these planes just show up in active military bases and land? No sign of any activity once they are out of sight and just show up" here we are". As has been stated, 2+2 isn't computing.
OK, help me with this. I understand the radar signature not showing anything, but the military has to track the plane somehow - transponder; something. Unless manually over-ridden or part of the failure, why is that not being picked up? If it did crash, there isn't a signal provided? How, was that turned off too? Are they really wanting us to think that these planes just show up in active military bases and land? No sign of any activity once they are out of sight and just show up" here we are". As has been stated, 2+2 isn't computing.
Emergency beacon goes with the pilot upon ejection, I believe.
Enough with the games. If anyone actually believes that our chitbag gov doesnt know where that jet is, you are f ucking retarded at best. Thats really all that needs said here
By Pilar Briggs, Steven Ardary, Patrick Phillips and Emily Johnson Published: Sep. 17, 2023 at 4:57 PM EDT|Updated: 1 hour ago NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCSC) - U.S. Rep. Nancy Mace says it’s not clear whether an F-35 jet missing since what Joint Base Charleston called a “mishap” is still in the sky or has crashed.
Mace said she was briefed on the ongoing search for the jet by the U.S. Marine Corps, which Joint Base Charleston said began after a pilot safely ejected on Sunday.
“And guess what: They didn’t have any answers. They don’t know if the plane is in the air or under the water. They could not tell me the precise location of where the pilot ejected or where the pilot landed,” she said.
Mace, who represents the First Congressional District, said she asked for a separate briefing with people who would be able to provide answers, adding that she has received “a lot of phone calls” from local leaders who she says are “frustrated with the lack of transparency and the lack of information.”
“And we’re talking about an $80 million jet. How does it just disappear? And how does the Pentagon ask for the public’s help in finding it?” she said. “It’s just a huge embarrassment.”
The incident involved a Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort F-35B Lightning II jet from Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501 with the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, according to public affairs specialist Jeremy Huggins. Huggins says the pilot was safely ejected and taken to a hospital where they are in stable condition.
“But quite frankly, this is a local emergency. We don’t know where the plane is, we don’t know what direction it went, we don’t know what direction it was flying and we don’t know if it’s still in the air,” she said. “And so it is a public safety issue and the public deserves answers.”
The Republican said that if the plane is still in the air flying and ends up going down in a heavily populated area, lives would be at risk.
“Now if the plane was flying over the water and crashed in the water, then obviously not a public safety issue, but the problem is, the $80 million question is, where is it, and if the beacon or transponder device within an $80 million brand new jet doesn’t work, what else doesn’t work and how much money has been invested into this program to see a jet like this fail for whatever reason.”
They can track a Grandma with a mask on, that took a walk in the Capitol building, back to a trailer park 700 miles away 3 months later from a grainy security video, but can't find a jet even knowing the flight path?
By Pilar Briggs, Steven Ardary, Patrick Phillips and Emily Johnson Published: Sep. 17, 2023 at 4:57 PM EDT|Updated: 1 hour ago NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCSC) - U.S. Rep. Nancy Mace says it’s not clear whether an F-35 jet missing since what Joint Base Charleston called a “mishap” is still in the sky or has crashed.
Mace said she was briefed on the ongoing search for the jet by the U.S. Marine Corps, which Joint Base Charleston said began after a pilot safely ejected on Sunday.
“And guess what: They didn’t have any answers. They don’t know if the plane is in the air or under the water. They could not tell me the precise location of where the pilot ejected or where the pilot landed,” she said.
Mace, who represents the First Congressional District, said she asked for a separate briefing with people who would be able to provide answers, adding that she has received “a lot of phone calls” from local leaders who she says are “frustrated with the lack of transparency and the lack of information.”
“And we’re talking about an $80 million jet. How does it just disappear? And how does the Pentagon ask for the public’s help in finding it?” she said. “It’s just a huge embarrassment.”
The incident involved a Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort F-35B Lightning II jet from Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501 with the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, according to public affairs specialist Jeremy Huggins. Huggins says the pilot was safely ejected and taken to a hospital where they are in stable condition.
“But quite frankly, this is a local emergency. We don’t know where the plane is, we don’t know what direction it went, we don’t know what direction it was flying and we don’t know if it’s still in the air,” she said. “And so it is a public safety issue and the public deserves answers.”
The Republican said that if the plane is still in the air flying and ends up going down in a heavily populated area, lives would be at risk.
“Now if the plane was flying over the water and crashed in the water, then obviously not a public safety issue, but the problem is, the $80 million question is, where is it, and if the beacon or transponder device within an $80 million brand new jet doesn’t work, what else doesn’t work and how much money has been invested into this program to see a jet like this fail for whatever reason.”
OK, help me with this. I understand the radar signature not showing anything, but the military has to track the plane somehow - transponder; something. Unless manually over-ridden or part of the failure, why is that not being picked up? If it did crash, there isn't a signal provided? How, was that turned off too? Are they really wanting us to think that these planes just show up in active military bases and land? No sign of any activity once they are out of sight and just show up" here we are". As has been stated, 2+2 isn't computing.
Take a look at my post from about four hours ago. That answers some of your questions. 😊
#BREAKING: Joint Base Charleston has confirmed to News 2 that a debris field has been located in the Williamsburg County area following the search for the missing F-35 aircraft. Follow @CBKNEWS121 FOR MORE UPDATES
Williamsburg county. Where my mama’s side of the family calls home. Wow.
What's the country like in that area?
Swampy, pine trees and crops. Just called my cousin who has two of the family’s farms right where the jet went down. They found two pieces of debris from a jet on the property. Crazy
Williamsburg county. Where my mama’s side of the family calls home. Wow.
What's the country like in that area?
Swampy, pine trees and crops. Just called my cousin who has two of the family’s farms right where the jet went down. They found two pieces of debris from a jet on the property. Crazy
Williamsburg county. Where my mama’s side of the family calls home. Wow.
What's the country like in that area?
Swampy, pine trees and crops. Just called my cousin who has two of the family’s farms right where the jet went down. They found two pieces of debris from a jet on the property. Crazy
Looking for a deer, naturally.
Wonder how the deer made out? With all those trigger happy gubmint peeples around.
They are at the beach nearby. Cousins kids stayed there bow hunting. No word if they saw or heard anything.
Funny thing is, IF they find more debris or the whole jet, it’ll be the second military jet crash on the farm in fifteen years.
The AF designate their farms as ditching areas? 😉
The farm might be in a flight route. My cousin piloted B-52’s in Nam and later for SAC. They had what was called back then “oil burner routes” where they practiced low altitude flying, etc. Oil burner route 17 went right over the county seat where this happened and the family’s farmland. He’d always call our grandmama and tell her to be sure and be standing on the front porch at such & such time and wave. He’d pass over very low and waggle his wings at the family . To the best of my recollection he never did that over Hanoi.
All the Navy/Marine jets I’m familiar with have a transponder that automatically squawks an “emergency code” of 7700 if the pilot ejects…if the transponder is receiving electrical power and is in either “normal” or “standby” mode. ATC is normally relying on the IFF (transponder) for position, altitude, etc. If the transponder is off or in standby, ATC would have to rely on a skin paint with the radar. Good luck. Maybe a complete electrical failure?…..it will eventually be figured out.
That feature can be disabled by maintenance or just turning the transponder off for ops over a hostile area but I doubt that was the case. We did that years ago off of Libya on some missions.
I understand they were a section (two jets). Normal procedure was the wingman has their transponder in Stby so ATC doesn’t get alerts that there are two planes too close together. If he was the wingman and had a problem, normal procedure is the aircraft in distress takes the lead and the (new) wingman handles navigation and comms while the lead deals with his issues without having to fly formation. Easy to believe in that case that the aircraft in distress was still in standby on the IFF and when they ejected and we ended up with a transponder-less stealthy airplane wandering around the countryside.
The Prowler, being the pre-Cambrian jet it was, didn’t squawk 7700 on ejection. You did have the location beacon in your seat pan that went off when the seat went up the rails and the lanyard that was attached to the cockpit floor pulled. Obviously we disconnected those in combat.
I’m curious what was so bad they ejected but the jet continued on. The only situation I can think of is a fire that went out but even then it was always “If fire indications positive - eject” as no one was leaving just because a fire light was on.
The AF lost an A-7D out of Myrtle Beach AFB back in the 70s. The pilot ejected and the plane went in a swampy area. A few pieces were around the impact area. The AF called the navy for divers to find it. The Navy chief took one look at where the plane was and told the AF "We can't dive in mud".