Another warning: We've talked about it before. A house burned down near here a couple days ago because of one. Who can you sue in China? This is all the info I have:
JEROME, Idaho (KMVT/KSVT) — The Jerome City Fire Department was dispatched to a residential structure fire early Sunday morning, when they arrived flames were coming from the windows with heavy fire and thick smoke.
The occupants of the home got out safely with minor injuries.
According to a social media post from the department, investigators from Jerome City Fire Department and the Idaho State Fire Marshal’s Office determined the cause of the fire was due to overheating of a lithium battery for a radio-controlled car that caused a chemical reaction and the battery caught on fire. The blaze gutted the single-family home.
The Jerome Fire Department would like to remind everyone how important it is to have working smoke alarms. If you do not have any, please contact the department and they can help provide them for your home.
Also, if you are ever in a fire, once you have made it out safely, please do not go back in for any reason.
They were assisted by the Jerome Police Department-Idaho, Magic Valley Paramedics, SIRCOMM dispatchers, and the Idaho State Fire Marshal’s Office and would like to thank them for their assistance.
It may be worth considering that they sue themselves for “aggravated stupidity”! They may have a strong case.
Purchasing Lithium batteries is ……..supporting our enemy, contributing to child abuse in the mining process, contributing to more pollution and filling our landfills due to the inability to recycle the batteries, just to name a few things! memtb
With a lot of devices on the market, it's impossible to get anything other than lithiuim. How many of your DeWalt or Milwaukee tools come with alkaline batteries?
You can buy lithium ce3lls that are "protected" and will shut off output if they are over temp or over current. Usually the are butting to cells and advertised as "protected" cells. The protection is not infallible, There are still conditions than are not going to be stopped by the protection circuit, but it does largely eliminate the fir problem. No battery technology is without the capability of starting a fire, but all can be managed with a little thinking.
Is the bursting into flames something that only occurs while recharging?
Nope, they can burn at any time. Peoples cell phones have exploded in their pockets. Lithium batteries can catch fire. They arent something that should be left unattended in any way
I don’t have the link but a 5 story New York City apartment house went to 3 alarms due to a scooter battery.
I just attended a fire fighter conference with one of the subjects being lithium batteries and the way they short and self destruct. No good answers but copious amounts of water. They are the gifts that keep on giving.
They need to start selling steel boxes to put your lithium battery devices in when not supervised.
Funny you say that. I use an old steel tool box for my milwaukee chargers. That way if the battery being charged malfunctions it doesn't have a wood shelf to further the damage and catch the rest of my shop on fire.
There have been many fires caused by e-bikes and scooters. People bring them inside at night for safekeeping and to recharge them. In cities, every apartment has at least 1.
Golly gee, I wish life was just full of padded edges and soft rounded corners, airplanes that bounced if they fell from the sky and cars that didn't crash.
They need to start selling steel boxes to put your lithium battery devices in when not supervised.
Actually, LIPO battery manufacturers already sell and recommend battery pouches for charging and transporting LIPO batteries commonly used in RC models, just to avoid this situation.
Golly gee, I wish life was just full of padded edges and soft rounded corners, airplanes that bounced if they fell from the sky and cars that didn't crash.
And it's five, six, seven, Open up the pearly gates, Well there ain't no time to wonder why, Whoopee! we're all gonna die...
It was 2004 news but it's still happening today so a reminder can be welcome. With the popularity of e-bikes, etc., we have a whole new generation of houses burning down.
Is the bursting into flames something that only occurs while recharging?
Nope, they can burn at any time. Peoples cell phones have exploded in their pockets. Lithium batteries can catch fire. They arent something that should be left unattended in any way
How do you "attend" every Lithium battery you own 24/7?
There are fundamental differences between Lithium ion and LiFePO4 batteries. The latter (such as are used for boat trolling motors) are much safer and much less susceptible to shorts/fires.
There are fundamental differences between Lithium ion and LiFePO4 batteries. The latter (such as are used for boat trolling motors) are much safer and much less susceptible to shorts/fires.
Is the bursting into flames something that only occurs while recharging?
Nope, they can burn at any time. Peoples cell phones have exploded in their pockets. Lithium batteries can catch fire. They arent something that should be left unattended in any way
Not leaving them unattended is something that impossible to avoid. They’re in your laptop, iPad, cell phone, flashlight, handheld vacuum, plus a thousand other things. There are probably a dozen of them in your house right now. It’s easy to say don’t leave them unattended, but it’s a practical impossibility.
It's not lithium that is the problem. It's cheap, unregulated Chinese batteries and circuitry. There are hundreds upon hundreds of millions of lithium batteries in use. The fact you don't hear about this happening more often speaks volumes.
It's not lithium that is the problem. It's cheap, unregulated Chinese batteries and circuitry. There are hundreds upon hundreds of millions of lithium batteries in use. The fact you don't hear about this happening more often speaks volumes.
Yup, but why do you wanna harsh the OP's groove... NiCads were/are just as dangerous. Went on a tour of an auto plant recently, saw battery assembly and storage. Ho Lee Fŭck, rows of batteries stacked 8' high. If one battery cooked off a city block would be taken out by the explosion of the chain reaction. 😱
Golly gee, I wish life was just full of padded edges and soft rounded corners, airplanes that bounced if they fell from the sky and cars that didn't crash.
With a lot of devices on the market, it's impossible to get anything other than lithiuim. How many of your DeWalt or Milwaukee tools come with alkaline batteries?
Milwaukee batteries and chargers have circuitry to avoid this problem. I'm sure DeWalt probably does also.
I'm holding a Milwaukee 12.0 AH Battery Pack in my hand right now. In small print it says--"Cells made in Korea with further processing in China"
Golly gee, I wish life was just full of padded edges and soft rounded corners, airplanes that bounced if they fell from the sky and cars that didn't crash.