The highest court in Wisconsin was one vote away from overturning the Wisconsin results. Sorry, but our elections have to be so clearly fair that the best legal minds in our country can't find flaw with them.
I would bet at least 30% of DEMs know it was stolen, if they were being honest, but they don't care..Probably all the more Moderate leaning Independents feel the same as Republicans too..
There were way way too many statistical anomolies in that election for there not to be a ton of fraud..
Everything from the way the media reported the election, declaring for Biden when a very small percentage of precincts had reported, the wild swings after they had “stopped counting”, and the rush to dismiss any concerns….
It stunk to high heaven and the dems do nothing. Many R’s joining.
Concerns needed to be addressed in a very transparent way. Some were, many were not.
The fraud in PA alone made it an illegitimate election. Under the constitution of PA, changes in election procedures must be made by a constitutional amendment, and passed by two consecutive legislatures. This did not happen. A democrat governor unilaterally changed voting procedures, upheld by a democrat state supreme court. This is black letter fraud. No math needed.
And you can ask ANYONE outside this country if that election was stolen, and they'll tell you it was. Its a joke to the rest of the world that truth, justice, and the American Way took it up the ass.
Here's the Fake Bidet trying to give you MSM believers a clue that Trump was not schietting you when he said our Joe Biden is a different guy, and when he said "He's not the same guy".
The actor playing Joe Biden is trying to show people he is a different guy.
I think it was stolen, but not in the ways people think it was.
I think it was done in small, surgical ways involving just a handful of people.
It was done with things like Zuckerberg funding government get out to vote efforts in blue areas. With governors, using covid as an excuse and cover, to change election rules with out the state legislatures. With ballot harvesting and vote by mail fraud.
I think it was stolen, but not in the ways people think it was.
I think it was done in small, surgical ways involving just a handful of people.
It was done with things like Zuckerberg funding government get out to vote efforts in blue areas. With governors, using covid as an excuse and cover, to change election rules with out the state legislatures. With ballot harvesting and vote by mail fraud.
I think it was stolen, but not in the ways people think it was.
I think it was done in small, surgical ways involving just a handful of people.
It was done with things like Zuckerberg funding government get out to vote efforts in blue areas. With governors, using covid as an excuse and cover, to change election rules with out the state legislatures. With ballot harvesting and vote by mail fraud.
I think it was stolen, but not in the ways people think it was.
I think it was done in small, surgical ways involving just a handful of people.
You think Obama & Clinton were involved?
I agree with that, they only needed to swing some of the 5 swing states, but if it is true, doesn't it likely mean they unleashed Covid 19 on us as well to lockdown the country, illegally bypass election laws almost overnight in some states and make up their own BS for Covid, and then get mail in ballots mailed all over the place?
Everyone thinks Jan 6 "insurrection" was a big deal, heck, think of all the people that died isolated from their families and friends because of Covid? And, what would happen if it were ever brought to light that it was part of stealing an election?
They can never let it come to light, people will not forgive that, and I would hope it would be something DEMs and Republicans both agree on.
It was absolutely stolen. Even if you only consider the hunter laptop and the lies of the 51 and mainstream media. That was massive election interference. Then look at how federal agencies of the deep state colluded with the tech giants to censor all kinds of things. The fact that states ignored their own election laws yet still certified their votes.
Then go on to read all the sworn affidavits about mail in ballots without folds or ones that looked like they were all ran on a copy machine. Or the truck driver duspatched out of new york to Pennsylvania in the middle of the night with a truck load of ballots. The bizarre way key states simultaneously shut down vote counting at about the same time. The massive statistical and bell weather anomalies. The way Biden didn't even bother to campaign and how he said something like they'd built the biggest election fraud machine ever.
The number one tell they cheated is the fact they want to put you in jail for suggesting it. For as long as I can remember many dems have claimed they were cheated when the lost an election. Now they want to make it a capitol crime to think an election was stolen. When they get that defensive you know your hitting at the truth. The left and the establishment Republicans worked together to make sure non of it got a fair day in court. Anyone that was even remotely paying attention knew something was messed up about 2020.
Even a Democrat I know said he cried himself to sleep on the night of the election because he was so sure Trump won and then he woke up to what he called a miracle. He then said he didn't care if they cheated because it saved the democracy. I replied do you not see the irony in what you just said.
I agree with this guy. The woods and the hoods need to unite against the globalist Marxist cabal that's actively trying to destroy our country. It's time for everyone who believes in the traditional American ideals to stand together. There's no where else to go. The tyrannical big government types have lots of places they can live out their utopian dreams. We need to keep on place free and of the people by the people.
Our entrenched beaurocrats and most of our elected leaders are acting against our will. That's not how a representative government is supposed to work. They are supposed to be there to represent us and our will and best interests not the interests of the UN and WEF. Example overwhelmingly most Americans want the borders closed and controlled yet very few in federal government or federal jobs are doing anything to secure our borders. In fact most are working hard to make sure they are wide open. A good sign that our system is broken and needs fixed. Even stollen elections have consequences.
The fact that our current government is so out of touch with the will of the people says something is wrong with our system. A big part of the problem is that our media has failed us and are acting like the propaganda arm of the democratic party instead of being the watch dogs for the people. Our election systems and judicial systems have failed us as well. Time to unite and clean house. But that's why the media and government do everything they can to divide us and keep us fighting each other so we don't unite against them.
There’s no argument from anyone that matters regarding election interference. The argument comes down to how much the interference affected the outcome.
The real argument comes when you declare that they stole the election by manipulation of votes, ballot stuffing and harvesting as well as a myriad of other nefarious tools at the cheater’s disposal.
The interference was massive and widespread, it was also intentional and malicious. It had a significant impact on the results.
The election was most DEFINITELY stolen! There’s absolutely no doubt and it too has been proven to be true. President Trump WON in 2020 but when he wins this time it will be even sweeter. He’s been able to see the real demon in every traitor and liar he had the misfortune of meeting and he’s better and stronger now because of it.
The fraud in PA alone made it an illegitimate election. Under the constitution of PA, changes in election procedures must be made by a constitutional amendment, and passed by two consecutive legislatures. This did not happen. A democrat governor unilaterally changed voting procedures, upheld by a democrat state supreme court. This is black letter fraud. No math needed.
I think it was stolen, but not in the ways people think it was.
I think it was done in small, surgical ways involving just a handful of people.
You think Obama & Clinton were involved?
I agree with that, they only needed to swing some of the 5 swing states, but if it is true, doesn't it likely mean they unleashed Covid 19 on us as well to lockdown the country, illegally bypass election laws almost overnight in some states and make up their own BS for Covid, and then get mail in ballots mailed all over the place?
Everyone thinks Jan 6 "insurrection" was a big deal, heck, think of all the people that died isolated from their families and friends because of Covid? And, what would happen if it were ever brought to light that it was part of stealing an election?
They can never let it come to light, people will not forgive that, and I would hope it would be something DEMs and Republicans both agree on.
I agree with this guy. The woods and the hoods need to unite against the globalist Marxist cabal that's actively trying to destroy our country. It's time for everyone who believes in the traditional American ideals to stand together. There's no where else to go. The tyrannical big government types have lots of places they can live out their utopian dreams. We need to keep on place free and of the people by the people.
Our entrenched beaurocrats and most of our elected leaders are acting against our will. That's not how a representative government is supposed to work. They are supposed to be there to represent us and our will and best interests not the interests of the UN and WEF. Example overwhelmingly most Americans want the borders closed and controlled yet very few in federal government or federal jobs are doing anything to secure our borders. In fact most are working hard to make sure they are wide open. A good sign that our system is broken and needs fixed. Even stollen elections have consequences.
The fact that our current government is so out of touch with the will of the people says something is wrong with our system. A big part of the problem is that our media has failed us and are acting like the propaganda arm of the democratic party instead of being the watch dogs for the people. Our election systems and judicial systems have failed us as well. Time to unite and clean house. But that's why the media and government do everything they can to divide us and keep us fighting each other so we don't unite against them.
Bb
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
There’s no argument from anyone that matters regarding election interference. The argument comes down to how much the interference affected the outcome.
The real argument comes when you declare that they stole the election by manipulation of votes, ballot stuffing and harvesting as well as a myriad of other nefarious tools at the cheater’s disposal.
The interference was massive and widespread, it was also intentional and malicious. It had a significant impact on the results.
The election was most DEFINITELY stolen! There’s absolutely no doubt and it too has been proven to be true. President Trump WON in 2020 but when he wins this time it will be even sweeter. He’s been able to see the real demon in every traitor and liar he had the misfortune of meeting and he’s better and stronger now because of it.
Originally Posted by Oldagpilot
Absolutely stolen never make me believe it wasn’t and Trump will win for a third time.
ICYMI
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
You are a chickenshit parrot if you really think it was stolen.
The woods and the hoods need to unite against the globalist Marxist cabal that's actively trying to destroy our country.
What does that mean to you, in execution?
This thread suggests that there was enough fraud in the voting and counting process to swing the election in Biden's favor. If that is true it doesn't matter who votes what, the fraud decides the outcome. If it isn't true is has been extremely well documented that there was extensive collusion between private media and government agencies to manipulate information available to voters, make examples out of people trying to circumvent that, and spread preposterous lies intended to influence votes.
So if the woods and the hoods united against the globalists, what would they be doing?
Seventy percent of caucas goers believe a lie concocted by a then-sitting President as part of a concerted effort to overturn an election and remain in office. That is what is celebrated on this Board. Let that sink in.
Seventy percent of caucas goers believe a lie concocted by a then-sitting President as part of a concerted effort to overturn an election and remain in office. That is what is celebrated on this Board. Let that sink in.
Well, you do have (1) ally here on The Fire.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
You are a chickenshit parrot if you really think it was stolen.
I'm sure all those anomalies that had never happened before in a Presidential election were just our rampant imagination. I'm sure that 2:00 AM vertical spike in Biden's numbers was totally legit. I mean he did campaign so hard from his basement.
I'm sure all those anomalies that had never happened before in a Presidential election were just our rampant imagination. I'm sure that 2:00 AM vertical spike in Biden's numbers was totally legit. I mean he did campaign so hard form his basement.
According to guys like Jim Conrad and his buddy Eric308, yes, that would be correct.
If CNN is willing to admit that 68%think the election was stolen you can bet it’s closer to 88%.
This ^^
That CNN poll was the most important poll of the night. Surpassing the caucus. If Americans are not paying attention to that poll, they are the losers. CNN finally got something right.
That election stank worse than a 2 week old whale carcass on a 100 degree day on a beach in Florida.
This. The most obvious, least hidden, election steal in history.
You do realize Georgia was investigated by numerous LE Agencies and Boards; but all were compromised or part of the Cabal, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/06/20/state-board-no-evidence-conspiracy-fultons-ballot-suitcase/%3foutputType=amp
That election stank worse than a 2 week old whale carcass on a 100 degree day on a beach in Florida.
This. The most obvious, least hidden, election steal in history.
You do realize Georgia was investigated by numerous LE Agencies and Boards; but all were compromised or part of the Cabal, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/06/20/state-board-no-evidence-conspiracy-fultons-ballot-suitcase/%3foutputType=amp
I would like to see a poll on how many people think Biden is in charge of anything. I have believed that Obama has been calling the shots from day one maybe didn’t think Biden would decline so quickly?
I’ll never forget watching the 2020 results coming in and then all of a sudden it stopped.
They announced out of the blue that several key states were done counting for the night. When the counting started back up the next day it was landslide Biden votes. I’ve never seen anything like that before…
I’ll never forget watching the 2020 results coming in and then all of a sudden it stopped.
They announced out of the blue that several key states were done counting for the night. They started back up the next day and it was landslide Biden votes. I’ve never seen anything like that before…
Exactly. Same here. Ordinarily, counting never stops till a winner is determined. They had to stop the counting to get rid of the Republican observers before they pulled the suitcases full of unfolded mail in ballots out and before the truckloads of them arrived at the back door. Then we saw a spike that was statistically impossible in an honest election. Literally every vote that came in was a Biden vote till Biden took a healthy lead (prior to that, Trump had a healthy lead, despite ordinary Democrat cheating activities), and that was it for Trump. The chart line of votes literally went from a healthy Trump lead, then straight up for Biden (the vote chart line was absolutely vertical for that period of time), then back to a normal looking chart, but with Biden solidly ahead of Trump now.
I think it was stolen, but not in the ways people think it was.
I think it was done in small, surgical ways involving just a handful of people.
You think Obama & Clinton were involved?
Some shady Dems for sure.
By and large most Dems are idiots. They couldn’t pull it off on a large scale involving lots of people. But it doesn’t take much to swing an election.
Did you see the movie 2000 Mules?
I read about it, know what it's about, but don't pay my money for that stuff.
I am sure there was fraud around the drop boxes, but I can't see 2000 people being involved.
They knew it would be damn near impossible to do a forensic audit on the mail in ballots in some of these swing states with lax rules like Georgia and AZ. Once they throw away the envelopes with the signatures that the ballots come in it's over. And DEMs have fought for years to have every vote counted, so they don't even carefully or thoroughly look at those signatures on the ballot envelope. They make an effort to try to keep the votes that get thrown out to a minimum, and in the 2020 election they opened the flood gates with the mail in ballots to make it impossible for the counters to thoroughly check signatures on the ballots.
Very Very stupid laws in place and verfications of votes in place make it real easy to steal an election.
I can guarantee Arizona hasn't done much to fix the problems, and the Republicans controlled the Congress and the Governor seat for a while and could have done what they wanted. They could have required a different form of Identification other than a signature on the ballot envelopes, like last 4 of SSN, but they didn't.
If CNN was truthful (would be the 1st time) I'd be shocked that 32% of Republicans could be so stupid as to believe it was not stolen. The sunrise and the effects of gravity are less obvious that the evidence that the elections are rigged
That election stank worse than a 2 week old whale carcass on a 100 degree day on a beach in Florida.
This. The most obvious, least hidden, election steal in history.
You do realize Georgia was investigated by numerous LE Agencies and Boards; but all were compromised or part of the Cabal, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/06/20/state-board-no-evidence-conspiracy-fultons-ballot-suitcase/%3foutputType=amp
You finally made an accurate statement.
Yessir! It's the biggest cornspiracy since those sneeky Gew Bolshie's faked them thar moon landins'.
That election stank worse than a 2 week old whale carcass on a 100 degree day on a beach in Florida.
This. The most obvious, least hidden, election steal in history.
You do realize Georgia was investigated by numerous LE Agencies and Boards; but all were compromised or part of the Cabal, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/06/20/state-board-no-evidence-conspiracy-fultons-ballot-suitcase/%3foutputType=amp
You finally made an accurate statement.
Yessir! It's the biggest cornspiracy since those sneeky Gew Bolshie's faked them thar moon landins'.
How do you feel about unborn children being murdered in the womb? Have you noticed there have been few if any sting operations to arrest human traffickers since your buddy took office? Do you like the new office of gun control your man has used our tax dollars to fund? Do you support him appointing sick twisted people that can't decide if they want a penis or vagina in control of our nation? Do you like enriching the oil producing nations that hate America because we are forced to buy oil from them?
I think it was stolen, but not in the ways people think it was. I think it was done in small, surgical ways involving just a handful of people.
You think Obama & Clinton were involved?
Some shady Dems for sure. By and large most Dems are idiots. They couldn’t pull it off on a large scale involving lots of people. But it doesn’t take much to swing an election.
Did you see the movie 2000 Mules?
I read about it, know what it's about, but don't pay my money for that stuff. I am sure there was fraud around the drop boxes, but I can't see 2000 people being involved.
Calvin is a dope.He has intentionally remained ignorant concerning the massive amount of fraud that transpired during the 2020 general election.
He has viewed hundreds of posts which have documented the unprecedented level of fraud and yet he continues to lie.
At this point it would be reasonable to conclude he is a Demonrat at best or government quisling at worst.
I would bet at least 30% of DEMs know it was stolen, if they were being honest, but they don't care..Probably all the more Moderate leaning Independents feel the same as Republicans too..
There were way way too many statistical anomolies in that election for there not to be a ton of fraud..
I would agree 100%. Until the many statistical anomalies turn in to factual evidence our hands are tied. Those whose job is the investigate, discover, and act on the evidence have no doubt been compromised and must be replaced or this circus will continue.
That election stank worse than a 2 week old whale carcass on a 100 degree day on a beach in Florida.
This. The most obvious, least hidden, election steal in history.
You do realize Georgia was investigated by numerous LE Agencies and Boards; but all were compromised or part of the Cabal, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/06/20/state-board-no-evidence-conspiracy-fultons-ballot-suitcase/%3foutputType=amp
You finally made an accurate statement.
Yessir! It's the biggest cornspiracy since those sneeky Gew Bolshie's faked them thar moon landins'.
How do you feel about unborn children being murdered in the womb? Have you noticed there have been few if any sting operations to arrest human traffickers since your buddy took office? Do you like the new office of gun control your man has used our tax dollars to fund? Do you support him appointing sick twisted people that can't decide if they want a penis or vagina in control of our nation? Do you like enriching the oil producing nations that hate America because we are forced to buy oil from them?
Those questions are completely, utterly, irrelevant here, but of course not, even if they made sense, which they don't. The only question is whether you are going to count one person, one vote and at the end of the day abide by the results. Trump categorically did not.
That election stank worse than a 2 week old whale carcass on a 100 degree day on a beach in Florida.
This. The most obvious, least hidden, election steal in history.
You do realize Georgia was investigated by numerous LE Agencies and Boards; but all were compromised or part of the Cabal, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2023/06/20/state-board-no-evidence-conspiracy-fultons-ballot-suitcase/%3foutputType=amp
You finally made an accurate statement.
Yessir! It's the biggest cornspiracy since those sneeky Gew Bolshie's faked them thar moon landins'.
How do you feel about unborn children being murdered in the womb? Have you noticed there have been few if any sting operations to arrest human traffickers since your buddy took office? Do you like the new office of gun control your man has used our tax dollars to fund? Do you support him appointing sick twisted people that can't decide if they want a penis or vagina in control of our nation? Do you like enriching the oil producing nations that hate America because we are forced to buy oil from them?
This should tell you all you really need to know.
Originally Posted by Eric308
I'm voting for Biden,
Originally Posted by Eric308
the AR15 is a soulless weapon for feckless people.
I think it was stolen, but not in the ways people think it was.
I think it was done in small, surgical ways involving just a handful of people.
I can’t buy in to that… no sooner had Covid shown up in the U.S… mayors and governors across the country, started enacting “EMERGENCY MEASURES” to enable mail in voting…this was against federal election laws, thus, illegal. How many state legislatures rectified this by passing legal legislation, I don’t know, but I doubt it was very many…
Steve, are you one of those who supported Georgia voters in boycotting the Georgia senate runoff election as encouraged by Attorneys Lin Wood and Sidney Powell to “Stop the Steal” claiming that the outcomes of the January 5 runoff elections couldn’t be trusted? Is that what Jim_Conrad is talking about? Did you actually encourage the Georgia voters to sit at home on election day therefore giving the US Senate to the left? Some right-wing extremists, not unlike some here on 24hrCampfire, did just that and stupidly pissed their vote and the US Senate away.
Steve, are you one of those who supported Georgia voters in boycotting the Georgia senate runoff election as encouraged by Attorneys Lin Wood and Sidney Powell to “Stop the Steal” claiming that the outcomes of the January 5 runoff elections couldn’t be trusted? Is that what Jim_Conrad is talking about? Did you actually encourage the Georgia voters to sit at home on election day therefore giving the US Senate to the left? Some right-wing extremists, not unlike some here on 24hrCampfire, did just that and stupidly pissed their vote and the US Senate away.
“Right-wing extremist” sounds like leftist talk. What is your definition of a right-wing extremist?
Steve, are you one of those who supported Georgia voters in boycotting the Georgia senate runoff election as encouraged by Attorneys Lin Wood and Sidney Powell to “Stop the Steal” claiming that the outcomes of the January 5 runoff elections couldn’t be trusted? Is that what Jim_Conrad is talking about? Did you actually encourage the Georgia voters to sit at home on election day therefore giving the US Senate to the left? Some right-wing extremists, not unlike some here on 24hrCampfire, did just that and stupidly pissed their vote and the US Senate away.
“Right-wing extremist” sounds like leftist talk. What is your definition of a right-wing extremist?
No, I'm not a leftist by any means, not even close. I would equate some of the conspiracy theorist embedded here on the 24hrCF as being right wing extremist, forever trying to justify their unproven made up bullshit, or statistics, to advance their cause. The fight is in front of us, not behind. We know what happened in the past, we need to target whomever will attempt it in the future.
Steve, are you one of those who supported Georgia voters in boycotting the Georgia senate runoff election as encouraged by Attorneys Lin Wood and Sidney Powell to “Stop the Steal” claiming that the outcomes of the January 5 runoff elections couldn’t be trusted? Is that what Jim_Conrad is talking about? Did you actually encourage the Georgia voters to sit at home on election day therefore giving the US Senate to the left? Some right-wing extremists, not unlike some here on 24hrCampfire, did just that and stupidly pissed their vote and the US Senate away.
Nope, never supported boycotting an election, I vote always have, always will
That doesn’t mean I expect a lot from my vote, or that I believe we can vote our way out of this, voting is not only my right it is my duty, if nothing else it gives me bitching rights
Steve, are you one of those who supported Georgia voters in boycotting the Georgia senate runoff election as encouraged by Attorneys Lin Wood and Sidney Powell to “Stop the Steal” claiming that the outcomes of the January 5 runoff elections couldn’t be trusted? Is that what Jim_Conrad is talking about? Did you actually encourage the Georgia voters to sit at home on election day therefore giving the US Senate to the left? Some right-wing extremists, not unlike some here on 24hrCampfire, did just that and stupidly pissed their vote and the US Senate away.
Nope, never supported boycotting an election, I vote always have, always will
That doesn’t mean I expect a lot from my vote, or that I believe we can vote our way out of this, voting is not only my right it is my duty, if nothing else it gives me bitching rights
According to a CBS entrance poll, 88% of caucus goers believe the 2020 election was stolen.
According to reports, about 20% of those that attended the republican caucus were Democrats. They changed their affiliation just before the caucus in order to be able to vote and disrupt the process.
This 20% infiltration by Democrats might help explain why the 68-88% wasn't higher.
It also helps explain why this guy,
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
You are a chickenshit parrot if you really think it was stolen.
.
Is one of the very few here on The Fire that actually thinks Biden was worthy of 81 Million Votes.
The only people I know that think the election was legit are Democrats, explains a lot.