Or anyone else that wants to participate. What do you think about having a get together for perhaps a lunch sometime this spring? Or ideas?

Keith

Sounds like a good idea.

Good idea!

A cookout would be fun.

Maybe someplace with a range?

What would be the 'center' I am just west of the Denver area.

sounds interesting. tom

There might be a few guys on this end of Nebraska and South Dakota that may be interested as well?

Sounds interesting but depends for me on what I'm doing.

I wonder where the center of the three states would be?

All ideas and places of meeting should be considered. I just thought it would be a great chance to meet. We just need to see how far out people are willing to travel. Heck we could even do a weekend thing like Les and the guys did in Raton if there is interest. We can pick a spot.

Good point! I thought of that so I edited my first post to add and anyone else.

Where in Wyoming would have a range and facilities to have a big ole' BBQ that everyone could use. maybe a little fishing.

range facilities and fishing might be hard to do. Either or may be more like it. Need to get gotlost online...

I went to the get-together at Whittington a couple of years ago and we had lots of fun. Would love to do it again this Spring but at a different location. There's nothing wrong with Whittington, it's a great facility, but it's not centerd in the MT, WY, CO, NE area. Some place in Eastern WY is about at the center. Glendo State Park and Guernsey State Park are located just East of I25 between Cheyenne and Casper. There's fishing and campgrounds at both parks.

Hunting is allowed at Glendo State Park.
http://wyoparks.state.wy.us/Site/SiteInfo.asp?siteID=6

There's a visitor center at Guernsey State Park.
http://wyoparks.state.wy.us/Site/SiteInfo.asp?siteID=7

I don't know about a range but since hunting is allowed in parts of Glendo, we might be able to setup something temporary so long as we clean up after ourselves.

KC

I don't think you can do any shooting around Guernsey park, or wouldn't advise it if you could (likely to hit a greenie ) but I have a place in mind not too far from there that I think would be OK. Let me check into it -- not a range, just some rimrocks and prairie.

There's not a lot of need for official ranges out here in the wide open spaces.

I can dig it!

Jacques:

The facilities chart for Guernsey doesn't indicate hunting as an activity and Glendo does allow hunting, probably limited to certain areas. Also Glendo is a lot bigger than Guernsey. From the brochure, it sounds like there might be some interesting sight seeing/historic stuff to check out at Guernsey.

If you can find some rim rock area on the prairie, maybe BLM near Glendo or Guernsey, that would be perfect.

KC

Yup, but spring seems very far away right now!

Lefty C

How about Cody? A great museum, location, historic town...

elkhunter:

I think maybe we should consider something longer than lunch. That's a long way to drive just to have lunch.

KC

Count my and my stepson in from Loveland, Colorado! Just name the time and place!

--Duck911

That visitor center at Guernsey is more of a museum of Indian artifacts, Oregon Trail, and CCC work camp stuff. But there is a lot of BLM nearby.

lefty:

Yeah, Spring does seem like far away but I don't think I would enjoy camping much right now, with the weather the way it is.

KC

shrapnel:

I took my boy scouts to a mountain man rendezvous in Cody and they had a blast. Buffalo Bill State Park is close to Cody, there's fishing there but no hunting. Cody is further away from the center of the target area so longer to drive there.

KC

Guys,

Just got back online. Lost my ISP for a bit, must be from the cold temps. I agree something more than a lunch would be the way to go. At first the get together the Washington State guys did came to mind, but that would be a bit too little for the travel.

Shrapnel...Cody would be a good idea as it has a shooting range I think and the other facilities as you mention.

We just need to see who is all interested and pick a meeting spot. I think Jacques has some good areas in mind too. There are some good places around Laramie Peak that might work if we don't go too early in the spring.

leftycarbon spring is along ways off but I think we need to do some planning so people can make this event. It will be a good time!

Keith

Cody is a great place, don't they have prairie dogs there?

Yeah there is a lot of history nearby, Cheyenne/Deadwood Stage route, Oregon Trail Ruts, Register cliff, 17 miles to Fort Laramie NHS, You'd even have a former Park Service (Ft. Laramie) historical interpreter and archaeological tech. on hand to show you around.

Ol' Bill Cody was down here riding for the Pony Express, and hunting buffs, long before anybody had heard of him or before he ever made it up to where Cody's at now.

But Cody is cool too.

Keep the suggestions coming. We can get a consensus and sort it out, then put the event together.

We will just need to keep this thread at the top of the forum.

Keith

A few sod rats up there, but not sure of the access as I am about 5 hours from Cody.

Keith

Hey Les:

Can you arrange for this post to be sticky please?

KC

I'll shoot rick a PM about it right now. Les

I like the Cody idea, but we would need to count on a whole weekend just to see the museum. Spring is a long ways away, but it will be here before you know it. We need to start making plans now. Count me in.
Tim

Same here, but it's six hours for me -- not that I have any problem with Cody at all, but you will need someone from closer to there that knows all the good places and right people to talk to to set it up -- if so, I have no problem driving to Cody either. It does get pretty pricey and crowded when tourist season starts up there though, and it is clear across another big State for the Colorado people too.

They have a nice jail that I helped build a few years ago though -- I don't care to visit it however!

You are right Tim it will be here before you know it! We will get this worked out. It will be a great time.

Keith

We didn't really get Raton going till the end of December anyhow. Les

I would probably be up for Cody, not to far for me. I have some friends that grew up there, may be able to throw a tent with their family still there.

I am thinking we would be looking for a central camping/lodging facility not unlike Raton.

Count me in. Also I'm offering whatever assistance I can provide to make it work

Jacques:

How long does it take to drive from Douglas to Cody?

KC

It takes me about six hours nonstop from Torrington, So I would say five or a little less from Douglas. But I'd really figure about seven or eight, just so I could stop to eat and pee and stretch my legs from time to time. It's around 360 miles from here, or 460 miles into Wyoming for you guys coming up the Front Range.

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I miss anyone?

Sounds great!

I participated in an event called "Man vs. Dirt" here in CO just this last summer. It was an absolute blast!!! We had it in the National Forest just outside Tarryall Reservoir. There was about 30-40 people present....guys only. So it was guys, or guys with their sons, up in the hills for a long weekend. Just about everything imaginable was there.....tents, trailers, fifth-wheels, trucks, jeeps, dirt bikes, ATV's, guns, rifles, bows, music, food, and drink. It was a fantastic outdoor event with a bunch of people and plenty to do. It was a blast! Perhaps we could find someplace central with similar characteristics.

I know some may have to drive farther than others but we will do our best to make it as centrally located as possible based on interest.

And anyone is welcome!


Keith

Jacques:

So that makes it about 9 hours non-stop from Colorado Springs. Say 10 hours with pee/food breaks. I could do that. But I would prefer closer = less driving. And I like the idea of having a local who knows the area to show us around. Let's see who signs up and where the concensus lands.

KC

Count me in. I'm up for whatever...fishing, shooting, both!

RH

I think it will take you longer than that, it takes me about three and a half to get to the North end of Denver if I hurry. What's the Springs another hour and a half South? And six hours to from here to Cody.

Keep in mind, you won't be on the Interstate after Casper and you will have to slow down for every little town. Especially Shoshonie %$&#$!!!

I can make it to Cheyenne in 2 1/2 hours if I can get through the Denver mess without too much holdup. But it will take longer pulling a trailer.

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Cheyenne to Cody is about 6.5 to 7 hours. partagas is in Cody as is ralphie ( I beleive) maybe they will chime in tomorrow with some helpful information.

Oh yeah I forgot the normal flow of traffic in Colorado is going about 90mph -- no wonder everyone is always passing me

We could do it here in the same area I wrote about above....plenty of room, atv trails, great scenery, easy to get in/out of, fishing in the reservoir, fishing in a nearby stream, plenty of room for shooting, etc.

I may be interested depending upon scheduling. I am near Billings, MT (about 120 miles from Cody).

I might suggest Sheridan or Buffalo. I am not real familiar with what you are looking for as to facilities but I personally prefer the Sheridan area. They both have a lot of imports, but the Sheridan/Buffalo area is a lot less touristy, more down-to-earth people. Plenty of facilities, hotels, restaurants. Fishing available in the mountains or at the lake. Beautiful location at the base of the Bighorns.

If you just want a place to camp together and then maybe go shoot dogs, Kaycee might work. There are innumerable dog towns around there. A nice campground on the edge of town. Not much in the way of a lot of restaurants etc. but real good people.

im in if i can make the scheduling work.......game for most anything you guys set it up and if i can swing the date ill be there....

Thermopolis may be another idea. My wife has friends/family there. I will check on facilities. This is only one idea www.eaglervpark.com

Anyplace with any kind of facilities is going to have a cost. Even a state park campground will. Glendo and Guernsey don't have any shower facilities to my knowledge.

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I miss anyone?

Keep the ideas coming. When we

Keith; put me on the list!

Same as others, if I can work it out, Ill be there...

Ingwe

btt

My Lady and I need motel facilities. I gave up camping when I left the military. A place to eat would be nice too.

Pansy! Have tent cot, will travel.

I might be able to attend - if it isn't in mid-June.

There is no license needed for PDs or coyotes in Wyoming, so that's a plus. The entire state has PDs, so the area around Rawlins to Glenrock would be good - and easily accessible via interstate.

I'm interested, but I can't tell you my schedule next week, much less 6 months from now. That makes me a definite maybe.

That is why I was thinking of something like the campground in Thermopolis. They have cabins/shower facilities and there are other motels nearby as well as places to eat.

I have a trailer I can sleep in as long as there are shower/bathroom facilities.



Pdogs from Glendo to Casper to Bill are gone due to plague. Not sure about the Rawlins area as I have not been through there in a while

Here's another vote for Cody. If you are within a day's drive of the Buffalo Bill Historical Center and have never been there, it is worth the trip, everyone should see it at least once, especially if you like guns. Plenty of camping available at the Buffalo Bill Reservoir campground and if you want to stay in town, there are all kinds of motels, along with the historic Irma Hotel.

You cant do everything in one weekend, such as fishing, hunting PD's and seeing the sights, so maybe it would be more practical to just figure on the museum, takes a full two days at minimum.

Note: if you are figuring on any place in Wyoming in the summertime, better make reservations WAY ahead of time, between the tourists and the oil patch crowd, motel rooms might be hard to come up with on a moment's notice.

If I can work it in the calender I'd be there as well.

Tongue River resevoir for the spring crappie spawn would do me just fine...I'd be a floggin the water with my fly rod.

Dober

Fixed it for you Dober.

You bet ch-ya!!!! And my Lady is even worst!!!!

Prairie dogs in the entire Red Desert basin and around Rawlins, Split Rock, Kemmerer areas are gone, plague got them a few years ago. Only a few scattered remnants remain, I have not shot any for three years now, the ones I see I leave for seed.

remfak:

That area around Tarryal Reservoir would be OK for fishing & shooting but not much in the way of places to see or comfortable facilities for the people who want them. It would be great for the Colorado guys but it's not very centrally located to the target area. People from Montana would have to drive a long way.

KC

I requested Rick put this as a Sticky, still haven't heard anything back from him.

Does anyone know anything about the Shoshoni area and/or Boysen State Park? It seems further away from the oil/gas boom area but it looks like a lot of land might be off limits because of the indian reservation.

KC

jnyork:

Any opportunities to do some shooting in the Cody vicinity? Any grass rats?

Yes we need to be thinking about timing. We held the one at Whittington in March (or was it April?). So we beat the summer tourist crowds.

KC

It was in April.

April/May isnt a big deal for me.....June-Aug it becomes real hit or miss cause i got alot going on between work, trips that are set in stone and fishing tournaments....

Seems like this thing if moving farther north with every other post.

I'm interested....

Getting close enough that some Idaho people may be interested as well.

Pretty much anywhere in Wyoming is fine by me.

its a 12 hour drive for me to hit Colorado Springs from here counting on good roads and few HP's anything short of that is fine by me but kept with in a 8 hour drive would be appreciated....always wanted to see Cody but i aint to picky, just need a spot to put up a tent or short of that a place to park the truck and we will throw a air mattress in the back as we have a topper and have camped like that before...preferably near some sort of bathroom facilities....a good stand of trees is acceptable but the wife insists on some sort of privacy screen be it an outhouse or a couple bushes

One more vote for Tongue River Reservoir and crappie fishing!

Boyson is pretty decent fishing from a boat, maybe a few from the shore, but yes, a lot of the land around there is on the Wind River Indian Reservation, most of the cool canyon to the North is. There is a lot of land to the East and South that is not, and I'm sure there is a lot of BLM -- but there is pretty much nothing out there, semi desert blah (that is truely the middle of nowhere). Might be some prairie dogs but I suspect the plauge has been there too.

Somewhere in the Bighorns on National Forest would be better and near that area IMO.

Sounds like a good time - I'm in if it happens to fall on a long weekend. A little crappie fishing definitely peaks my interest. Guy can only shoot so many prairie dogs. I'm 6 hours north of Billings so the norther the better!!

John Linebaugh has his seminar in June each year in Cody. It's a good time with a lot of good folks. If you come to that gig, small bores are anything that doesn't start with a 4 or larger, and handgun range shooting goes to 970 yards.

The Cody Shooting Complex has a High Power, Trap, Skeet, Sporting Clays, Cowboy Action, Silhouette, Rifle (500m), Pistol and Plinking ranges. There are primitive camping facilities on site, which are used by the Cowboys during their yearly shoot, so it would be a good idea to avoid those times. There is also a KOA on the edge of town.

The Powell range, about 20 miles away, has a 970 yard range.

Fishing around Cody is some of the best trout fishing in the state, or so I'm told by those who do such things.

There are pdogs around the area, some just south of town toward Meteeteesee, and most likely toward Greybull as well.

It's about 50 miles to Greybull, and most of the land on both sides of the highway are BLM all the way once about 5 miles out of Cody.

The Buffalo Bill Historical Center has the Buffalo Bill Museum, Plains Indian, Winchester Gun Museum, Whitney Gallery of Western Art Museum, and the Draper Museum of Natural History under one roof.

There are also about 10 guns shops in Cody. Bork's, Rocky Mountain, Denny's, Outdoor Sports, Palmers, a new guy on main street, another on the west end past Bork's, Guns West, Honest John's (not the real name) above Peter's cafe for old stuff, and one or two others I can't recall.

I wouldn't recommend the Shoshoni/Boysen area due to the lack of any facilities such as motels, grocery stores, etc. Not to mention that the Fast Lane there is anti gun. I carry open, and after doing business there off and on for 30 years, they decided to post a no firearms allowed sign in the window. Funny thing is, hunters keep the place alive in the fall.

There are some other sights and things to do around the area, like the Old Trail Town Museum where Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid's cabin now resides, along with a number of other famous cabins from Wyoming people of note. I think Liver Eaten Johnson is or was buried there now.

If I think of anything else, I'll let you know.

I'm in Cheyenne at present and will be until this weekend when I head to Laramie, then back to Cheyenne next week, then back to Cody. Anyone living along the way who may like a chat and a cup of coffee, send a PM.

David

Forgot to mention the Irma Hotel, Buffalo Bill's place named after his daughter. It would be the morning meeting place, and a place to stay if necessary.

David

Cody shooting range is simply the best for many miles around. Not only high-power, but one night a week they have small bore indoor shooting. Also excellent trap and skeet shooting. Community type building with cooking and eating facilities with real indoor bathrooms. O, also sporting clays for those so minded.

Lots of eating places; some good, some not so good. Many motels along with The Irma, built by Buffalo Bill and named after his daughter complete with a beautiful cherrywood backbar that was given to him by none other that the queen of England. A must to see.

Lots of things to see and do there, even raft trips down the Shoshone if the water is not too high, which it usually isn't.

I lived in Cody for twenty-five years and have sent lots of lead downrange there. And if you like wind, you wont be dissappointed. But even that's not bad.

So, see ya in Cody. O, the people that are in charge of the shooting range are good guys and if I remember correctly, electricity and maybe water is available in the camping area.

We need to see if JB would show up. And Dogzapper.

Ivan

Curious question here but how would be go about getting permission from a range like the one @ Cody to allow a bunch of non club members in?

Thx
Dober

I suppose I could ask when I get back home. Shouldn't too big a deal. They do it all the time with all the matches they put on there.

David

I'm up for it where ever its at. Though I like Cody cause I don't have to drive....grin.

No big deal as they have several registered trap shoots there every year plus the cowboy shooting thing and lots of non-members are there. But I know those people that are in charge so will get in touch if enough are in favor of choosing Cody.

Looks like I was too slow again as Paladin done answered already.

Cody sounds like a good place if Bigbuck can setup to use the range. Sounds like there's a bunch of other stuff to do also. It's farther for us CO guys to drive but WTH. We can do it. Since it's closer to MT, we might get more of you MT boys to come. If we want to check out the stuff around Guernsey, we could always stop for a couple of nights, along the way. Maybe Jacques would still give us the tour?

KC

Partagas:

If we go to Cody, it sound like you'll be elected as the local contact & guide.

KC

Whenever we can come up with some kind of date and about how many, we will proceed.

Well elkhuntger started this thread.

Keith: you wanna take a vote or maybe wait to see if more people sign up before deciding?

KC

Something else to consider, the Winchester Arms Colletors Assn has their annual gunshow there in Cody in June every year, the exact date is not yet up on their website, maybe one of the Cody guys could check on the reservations at the Community Center and find out. This is a helluva gunshow, no junk at all, bring LOTS of money, you have to show 5,000 cash just to get in the door (just joking ) still a great show just to go see if not to buy.

Funny-I was just thinking about the same thing.

Dober

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so far the consensus seems to be Cody, WY but lets wait for a vote until we get some more interest. Where ever we choose we need a person on the ground there or close to it.

Rick thank you for making this a sticky!

A lot of us Colorado Folks for this one.

Bigbuck215, partagas & Paladin seem to be knowledgable about Cody.

JaquesLaRemi seems to know about the Glendo/Guernsey area.

KC

Bring up Cody, WY, on google earth. Then navigate about seven miles or so northwest of town. Very impressive range.

Partagas has lived there all his days, Paladin has been there about fifteen years and I lived there for twenty five, then moved about a hundred & ten to Billings, Mt., but still go to Cody quite a lot. Good place.

Partagas lives there.

Bigbuck lived there a long while.

My wife and kids live there and I drop in from time to time when I have a job and live there when not working.

I've nothing against Cody, but this post eliminated it for me.
As was said, Elkhunter started this thread.

We have not decided on a place yet. That will take a vote of all interested members. We need to allow a bit of time to see if others are interested, perhaps from South Dakota or Nebraska.

Tracks please voice your opinions/suggestions/concerns.

Keith

Heck, I can do that most anytime any of you are coming through here anyway, most any weekend or in the evenings after work -- unless I'm off working on a cabin fireplace somewhere. Just give me a ring or send me a PM a few days ahead of time.

It usually is the third weekend in June, which would be the 18th-20th.

I could do that weekend. I have a grueling seminar at Jackson Lake Lodge at GTNP the 24th-27th.

Consider me in coming from Grand Junction.
Anywhere you guys come up with,will be fine with me.
Charlie N.

I could probably make it. Depending on date of course.

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OK what are the date preferences?

I recommend that we hold it before Memorial Day to avoid the tourist crowd.

KC

I'd like to try to fit it in and meet more of these guys. Don

I'm down. Let's hold it in Havre...

Seriously, I'll make the drive.


Travis

Something to be said for that, although Cody can be pretty busy already by then. Will depend somewhat on when the gate to Yellowstone opens. April/early May could still be pretty cold and nasty at times.

May is good for me.

Any weekend ought to work for me -- the water is pretty white up there that time of year in the creeks so brookies will be pretty hard to get -- great place for it when the runoff has done runned off though. But I'd like to go when that big gun show is there too anyway.

We need a few boats on the reservior.

KC

Guys I'm in but I up to my Azzz in work and a algebera class right now. Cody sounds good. any time but July.

Hmmm...~750 miles in a straight line, 1274 miles driving according to Google Earth. Maybe time for creative navigation. Never have seen that part of the country before...

Cody, May 8 2009

If Cody is elected as the place, I wouldn't recommend April or May. Mid to late June would be better, but bring winter duds anyway. Tourist are a PITA from the end of April until the end of September.

I wsa going to mention that but......I have seen 6 inches of snow here on June 8 before. Where ever we choose we may have to deal with some weather in May.

Barring an unforeseen conflict, I am interested in attending as well. I am good to go about anywhere. But you know that Cody is a touristy pain in the ass during the summer and sometimes it is not an easy place to find a camp spot or hotel. If you don�t have a little private ground tied up, folks will probably be scattered all over a pretty busy piece of real estate. CP.

Actually there are two strong candidates. Cody is one and the Glendo/Guernsey area is the other. Both have lots of things to see and do. Both have camping, a reservoir and fishing opportunities. Cody has a real nice range and some prairie dogs East of town. Hunting is allowed at Glendo so we can setup some kind of range there if that's where we end up, but the prairie dog population has been decimated by a recent plague. There won't be as many tourists at Glendo State Park as there will be around Cody. Cody is closer for the Montana guys. Glendo is closer for the Colorado guys.

I prefer the Glendo/Guernsey area because it's a shorter drive for me. But I will go to Cody if the majority of people vote for that option. The vote will be interesting.

KC

Yes that is a real concern. As much as I like Cody we may want to shy away from there if we do this in the summer months.

The only tourists at Glendo and Guernsey usually have green and white license plates !

Still thinking on the location thing. Wherever we do it, there are plusses and minuses.

Not to toot Cody's horn too much it does have an advantage of making into a family vacation with the trip. You do have to put up with tourists in the summer but with the BBHC, the nite rodeo, short access to Yellowstone, etc there is quite a bit to do and see. It would be a decent drive from CO but also from the outer reaches of MT as well. Roughly halfway between both extents. I would even extend the invite to anyone who wanted to come from various states.

Was also thinking we could line up a trip up past Meeteetse to Kirwin (an old mining town) up in the mountains, or a drive through the beartooths (the later spring earlier summer the better for that). Great drive by the way. Give me some more time and I could think of some various other cool places that most of the tourists don't go to just cause it a one track mind to Yellowstone.

Sorry I was out yesterday. I'd be in for this too. I'm near Thermopolis which is 83 miles south of Cody. Cody is a tourist hell from memorial day to labor day. But as was mentioned before or after that you can run into wintery type weather. I would stay away from shoshoni/boysen unless you are out on the water it's pretty much a wasteland.

Thermopolis may be a good alternative for cody. Despite my obvious bias, it's close enough to drive to cody and isn't quite as packed with tourist, better weather-less wind, plently of hotels, campgrounds etc.

I agree Cody has some wonderfull attributes, but getting an area for a medium to large group may be tough. Please feel free to offer suggestions and help. I just came up with the idea and it started out as a local lunch get together but grew from there which I think is cool!

I was thinking Thermopolis initially as my wife is from there, so I know a little more about it than Cody. IT is fairly central too. Also as you say close to Cody but less busy. What suggestions might you have Ralphie? Shooting facilities west of town? Great fishing I know. The hot springs for those who want to soak or swim.

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Ralphie - WY
wyoguide - WY
Snake River Marksman - WY
rnr - CO/WY

I'm in pending my work schedule.......

Thermopolis has a small shooting range. I think you can shoot out to 300 yards. There are 4 or 5 benches and they have some shotgun stuff there. I was only a member once and only went a couple times, but I could look into what they would do to host an out of town group. Thermop doesn't have all the amenities that Cody does, but we have a lot less headaches too. I think many here would enjoy the Days Inn (formally holiday inn) with it's huge collection of taxidermy and hunting photos. I sort of know the owner, maybe he'd come visit with a group of us and go over some of his great collection with us. Thermop really is a little gem of a town. Again acknowledging my bias.

I'd still be in for Cody and think it would work fine, just offering an alternative.

I was thinking about Thermop as well. There used to be some fair dog towns along the Bad Water Creek toward Lysite through the canyon south of Thermop, as well as rock chucks at the foot of the Owl Creeks. Don't know if they are still about though as I haven't stomped those parts in a long while. A lot of wide open all around Thermop off the black top. The Big Horn flows through town for the fisherfolk and Boysen is just down the road as well.

I don't know as every motel room is filled in Cody all summer long, and there always seems to be camping spots at the KOA. The other RV spot next to the Burger King seems to be full most of the time, but I really can't say for sure on any of it since I don't stay at the local motels or RV spots. And as mentioned before, the Cody Shooting Complex has camp spots.

Tourist are a pain mainly when trying to drive through town but there's a lot of room to get away from them.

Toward Sunlight Basin North of Cody

If we stayed at the campground at the Cody shooting range, we would have a central gathering place out of the way of all the tourists. I think the same would be true if we stayed at one of the group campgrounds at Glendo.

Jaques: Is that a fair statement for Glendo?

Thermopolis has a small range but we would have to setup something at Glendo.

Ralphie: Is there a central meeting place/campground around Thermopolis area?

Cody is sounding better all the time.

KC

The key issue "central gathering place out of the way of all the tourists"

I am fine with wherever we choose.

I guess I didn't see that there was a campground at the Cody range. I've never been to that range. I think that would probably be ideal as a central spot away from town but close to it for the amenities and those needing hotels.

There are a couple KOA type places in thermop but nothing that would work as well as a campground at a range, if that's the case in Cody.

Hotels do fill up pretty quickly in cody and rates go way up too, but I'm sure if we scheduled this sometime soon folks get easily get reservations.

Bigbuck215, partagas & Paladin:

It looks like we have about 40 people who have indicated interest. Let's guess that we get a few more and that 3/4 of them actually show up and some of them bring family. So that makes maybe 35-40 people or something in that heighborhood.

If a few stay at motels in town, we will need 25-30 camp sites? Is the campground at the Cody range big enough to hold that many people?

Jaques: What about Glendo?

KC

i prefer a motel for this kinda thing but as i said the wife and i have camped in the truck quite a bit aswell as tent camping....seriously though, you guys set it up....if the date works ill be there, dont much care where at so long as you guys think it meets the needs and is north of Cheyenne

Glendo has several campgrounds. Scattered around the lake.

http://wyoparks.state.wy.us/Site/SiteInfo.asp?siteID=6

I think there's 1 motel in Glendo and it's right nexted to the RR tracks (Noise). I believe there is some firearm restrictions in the state park also.
Just for thought, what about around Sundance. It's close to the Black Hills (Rusmore) and all that stuff. But there still camping and motels near or in Sundance.

I've visited Sundance several times and it's a nice tidy town with lots of friendly people and very few tourists. But it's far away from everyone and the closest campground is in Black Hills National Forest. That campground is no where near large enough to accommodate a group as big as the one we anticipate.

I have hunted in a couple of State Parks and the firearms restrictions are pretty much what you would do anyway. Gotta stay 1/4 mile away from campgrounds, buildings, etc.

Looks like there's also a motel in Guernsey and a bunch in Wheatland.

Here's the website for Glendo State Park.
http://wyoparks.state.wy.us/Site/SiteInfo.asp?siteID=6

Here's the webstite for Guernsey State Park,
http://www.sangres.com/wyoming/stateparks/guernsey.htm

and for the town of Guernsey.
http://www.townofguernseywy.us/

KC

What's Jackson Hole like in the summer time?

Extremely busy and expensive.

Thats an understatement.

I do like Cody, I'm just putting some other places out there. Saratoga has Good camping / and hotels/ fishing/ Pairie dogs close by. Plus a couple of NF work stations that could be used as a meeting site.

I'd be interested as well. It'd be cool if we could just find a huge prairie dog town and then just give GPS coordinates and then everyone show up and pop up a tent or trailer and have at for the weekend.

If the campers are all self-contained, there is lots of room. Electricity is available but very limited.

Might help in planning for all that are planning on Cody if everybody Googled Cody Shooting Complex and looked at their schedule for 2010.

Not that I am against Cody (other than dealing with the tourists) these 2 suggestions are more along the lines of what I was thinking about. Unfortunately the sod rats are wiped out in my area.

gotlost I hate to admit it but I am not familiar with the Saratoga area other than it is very nice down there.

What about the campground east of Esterbrook? There is fishing close by, a couple of smaller dog towns I know of and the lodge is nearby but not sure if they offer lodging anymore. That I can check on.

I'd be up for this too in spite of finding it a bit late.

As for locations, I like Thermop (yeah, I'm from WYO). A drive to Cody for the range wouldn't be that bad. Any of the state parks would have firearms restrictions, so I'd shy away. And I'd probably camp. There ought to be some BLM/public land for shooting, I'd rather find a place w/ a good back stop and shoot there.
anyway my 2c.

EH76 is this the one you mean.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/cabinrentals/laprele.shtml

No that one is over on the Campbel Creek side. The campground I am referring to is just east of Esterbrook a couple of miles above Three Cripples Creek and Lower Horseshoe Creek.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/camping/douglas/esterbrook.shtml

That is it but the USFS doesn't know east from west ! Won't be large enough though

Dose that surprize ya.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/camping/brushcreek/jackcreek.shtml

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/cabinrentals/jackcreekcq.shtml

these are a 1/2 mile apart. a number of gravel pits in the area to shoot at. Semnol to the north. and lots of brookies near by. hot springs in town.
May want to look at mid June due to snow.

Bigbuck:

I did as you suggested and looked at the website for the Cody range. It looks like there are lots of activities scheduled every weekend in May. A group of 35 people might not be all that welcome with all those activities already scheduled.

Jaques:

Are ther electric hookups for trailers at Glendo or Guernsey?

KC

Glendo is at the peak of walleye fishing about then and a very very large # of greenies (Coloradins) invade the area. Not that I don't like them. the place is packed. As for hookups there is at least 1 privite one that I know of.

About as many will be at Guernsey with all thier speed boats (it's lousy Fishing there).

Firearms will be a issue at both places.

And if you want to, call "Greek" Stroh at 307-899-1098. He is the range officer and is pretty well on top of whatever goes on around there.

The Cody Shooting Complex calendar is rather confusing. It looks like nearly every day something is going on.

If you look at June, there is the Wild West Shootout the week of the 7th. The rest of the time is open. What is on the schedule are the times the range is open more or less to the public.

http://www.codyshootingcomplex.org/Calendar%202010.pdf

I will call Greek and see what is available for camping and such.

David

Good on ya! I talked to Greek a day or two ago but due to my inability to understand clearly on the phone, I have no idea of what he said.

CYA

I think you guys really need to look at the post gotlost put up about the Saratoga area.

I agree, you guys really need to scratch the Glendo idea. Lots of Colorado boaters, drunks and pretty much not a good time. Firearms are a big no-go as well. Large tickets....

Scratch Guernsey off the list as well. There will be no firearms shooting unless you are 400 yards from a road, parking area or trail (pretty much the entire damn park). Ask me how I know....


You may also want to consider having it in June if you are getting near any mountains. The last several years have been some cold and wet Mays. Memorial weekend the last few years have been cold and snow. Unless you like being trapped in a tent or trailer all weekend.

Lots of interest � good to see! I hope that you guys do it.

But that's 'way too far for what's left of The Ol' Phardt.


Nothing will come of mere expressions of interest and discussing the possible wheres. Nothing will come to pass unless ONE of you guys takes the bit in your teeth and sets a definite time and a definite place, early enough for others to decide whether they can make it and to make their plans accordingly.

What about around Douglas and/or the Thunder Basin Grasslands area?

Is there such a thing as a private ranch that sells PDog hunts, close enough to a town with accomodations for those that want them, that might cut a group our size a good enough deal to make it worth our while (Pdogs and camping)?

Douglas has a nice shooting range but no other ammenities as far as camping. The KOA is full due to the lack of housing. The Grasslands have no facilities what so ever.

Either gotlost or I will check into the Saratoga USFS facility.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/camping/brushcreek/jackcreek.shtml

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/cabinrentals/jackcreekcq.shtml

these are a 1/2 mile apart. a number of gravel pits in the area to shoot at. Seminole Resevoir to the north and lots of brookies near by. hot springs in town.

If there were a place that still had them, they charge $150 per gun per day. Unfortunately it will be a few years before the come back to shootable numbers.

I still wouldn't rule out Sheridan/Buffalo, WY area. One of the most beautiful places in WY with the Bighorns. You have Lake DeSmet and just across the border is Tongue River Reservoir that offers excellent fishing. On the back side of the Bighorns you have Bighorn Reservoir out of Lovell and the Pryor Wild Horse Range. Amazing scenery along the lake and on the wild horse range as well. Excellent trout fishing in the Bighorns and in the foothills. Unbelievable scenery.

For those of you that like to chase little white balls across the yard, there are some phenomenal golf courses.

Something a little different is there is a very active Polo scene which provides some very unique entertainment especially if you've never seen it before. A large contingent of Argentinians spend the summer there just for the polo.

There are some great museums and art galleries. Really good food and plenty of hotels some campgrounds and a gun range.

Take a look at these:
http://www.sheridanwyoming.org/gallery/mountains/
http://www.buffalowyoming.org/
http://www.city-sheridan-wy.com/index.php
http://www.buffalowyoming.org/photogallery.htm

I don't mean to denigrate Cody, but it is touristy and if even some of the tourists have invaded, it's beautiful and neat, but loses a lot of its Wyoming feel.

I have a friend/client just south of Kaycee, easy driving from Sheridan/Buffalo that might be an option to accommodate some dog hunting. I haven't been on the place since last spring so I don't know the condition of the towns. They are huge but I haven't heard if the plague has gotten any of them.

I could make an inquiry as to what might be possible as far as access. I know they do lease some dog hunting.

elkhunter:

Jacks Creek Crew Quarters seems like a perfect place; isolated and rustic but with some nice comfortable amenities for those who don't want to camp. It has lots of room for trailers/tents and campfire. It is in the mountains and looks a lot nicer than some of the other options. We won't be pestered by tourists. But there's no fishing or prairie dogs and we would have to setup some kind of temporary shooting facility.

KC

Jack Creek Crew Quarters.


The Jack Creek Crew Quarters is a large modern facility that is available for nightly rentals for $180 per night from June through October. This beautiful two-story log facility has a fully equipped double kitchen with propane ranges, refrigerators, and double sinks. There are bathrooms with showers on both levels. Two propane generators are available for the generation of electricity and water service at this facility. One generator is used at a time and typically electricity and lighting is provided several hours in the morning and in the evening typically have the generator off by 10 p.m. Since this is a remote facility we ask our guest to practice conservation in regards to both electricity and water usage. The five-bedroom facility will sleep 15 people in single and bunk beds and can be rented for fourteen consecutive nights. Heat is provided by propane. There are living areas on both floors. Picnic tables and a large charcoal grill make a wonderful setting for outdoor activities. This facility is great for family reunions and for a hunter�s

Attractions & Considerations
This beautiful area is a mixture of lodge pole pine, aspen and mixed conifer forest with fishing, hiking, mountain biking, picnicking, horseback riding and hunting available in the general area. If you bring your own stock, saddle or pack animals may be kept in the meadow across the road from the Jack Creek Crew Quarters where ample feed and water are available. A rate of $1.00 per night per head of livestock will be charged. The Continental Divide National Scenic Trail is located west not far from the quarters. A variety of wildlife is located in the general vicinity including elk, deer, bear and moose.

Items that should be brought along include bedding/sleeping bag, food, dish soap and sponge, trash bags, paper towels, warm clothing, first aid kit, flashlight, towels and washcloths, personal hygiene items and other personal items. Basic cooking and eating utensils, plates, knives, forks, spoons, cups, and basic pots and pans are furnished. If you use these, they need to be cleaned and put up after use. Garbage service is provided.






Jack creek campground.




Directions
Campground is approximately 19 miles west of Saratoga, WY on County Road 500. Then approximately 8 more miles on NFSR 452. Follow the signs.

Attractions & Considerations
16 campsites with tables, fire rings, running water, trash pick-up, vault toilets, host on site. Maximum combined vehicle/trailer length is 22 feet.

Fishing in Jack Creek and McLain Creek. Hiking the Continental Divide Trail. Moose watching.

Dogs must be leashed in the campground.

This campground is closed to Saddle and Pack Stock


There are plenty of other camping site's near by.


Saratoga has lodging, resturaunts, free hot spring.

There are numerous places to set up a shooting range,

I agree with Dr. Howell. We need to get the decision process underway because places like the Jacks Creek Crew Quarters, the campground at Cody Range and large group camp sites in state parks will require early registration. Several places have been suggested and some seem to have multiple supporters. They include the following:

Glendo/Guernsey State Parks
Cody-Buffalo Bill State Park & Cody Range
Thermopolis-Hot Springs State Park
Sheridan/Buffalo-Tongue River Reservoir
Saratoga/Encampment-Jacks Creek Crew Quarters
I may have missed one or two places.

Keith: Since you started this thread, will you please coordinate the nominations/voting process?

Let's take a vote and choose a location so we can move on to choosing a date, then start getting things arranged.

KC

Fishing at or near Jack creek. great brookies in jack creek. tiger trout and cuts in high savery res. rainbows in Saratoga lake. the North plat river. and some monster Brookies somewhere close by that I will not name on the internet.

Sod rats- there are some off to the west, it is on the east side of the Red Desert. we can check with the local biolgist.

Also in the area.
http://www.saratogachamber.info/THINGS%20TO%20DO.htm

gotlost:

Looks like there's lots of fishing and maybe some pdogs too. Jacks Creek Crew Quarters and Jacks Creek Campground are sounding better. I've been to Saratago/Riverside/Encampment many times, once to attend a mountain man rendezvous in Encampment, but I've never visited the mountains to the West of Encampment. There are hot springs in Saratoga and a lake where an annual ice fishing contest is held.

Saratoga is rumored to be the landing place for some high rollers including Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. The Old Baldy Club (members only) might be the focus for this enclave of big money. You can often see expensive private jets parked at the tiny airport in Saratoga and there are several art galleries that are definitely not in the price range for locals.

But Saratoga still has a small town atmosphere and the people act nothing like the Aspen snob crowd. Riverside and Encampment are small villages that are just managing to make ends meet.

KC

Saratoga is what Jackson Hole was 50 years ago. You never know who you may run into in Saratoga.

Ok this is our opinion and our opinion only, so take it just for that. We originally started this thread to put together a meeting of Campfire members within driving distance for perhaps a lunch or BBQ. Due too the interest it grew into a weekend get together which we think is absolutely wonderful.

However, we never intended this to be more than a get together. There is no way we are going to be able to include and accomodate everyones desires, especially in a weekend. We were looking at a relaxing time where we could visit, get to know each other and perhaps fish or shoot if facilites allow.

Some of you have some great ideas about the Cody Winchester Show (neat but you better have several thousand $$ to buy anything there), visiting the Museum but that takes an entire weekend in itself to do. Fishing or shooting near Cody involves some travel time as in it is not next door. And then there is the tourist traffic to contend with.

For those of you who don't live here, the amenities at Glendo and Guernsey are not as you envision them to be. They are basic with no hookups and no central facility. You cannot shoot in the state park section, only out on the BuRec areas where they allow hunting. Also the influx of weekend "tourists" is very heavy.

The Forest Service facilites are far more amenable as far as camping, shooting, fishing and dealing with groups of people.

If you have a desire to incorporate some of the other amenities in WY into this weekend you may want to consider adding it on to the trip at the beginning or the end.

Saratoga comes the closest to offering everything members have mentioned they would like to do. We are not trying to force this area on you, but just offering our experience in dealing with the issues at hand.

elkhunter76 & gotlost

Like I said earlier, I am up for anywhere. Saratoga, WY looks like a great place... It would be easy for me to drive up there (3.5hrs) and check things out if no one is close. My family is still in GA and most of my weekends are WIDE open. Let me know what I need to do...

RH

I like the Saratoga idea
It has my vote.

So far we have 42 members showing interest. This breaks down as follows (if I didn't miss anyone and I am sure I did....my apologies)

CO - 12
MT - 13
WY - 12
UT/CA/TX/MN/? - 5

I'm convinced. I'll switch my vote to Jack Creek-Saratoga. I can be there any time in May or June.

Let's see if we can get others to vote.

KC

Before we vote, let's give it a couple of days to see if others are interested in attending.

Maybe I missed it, is there an RV park there where we are proposing to go in Saratoga?

Another vote for Saratoga, this should be more of a meet and greet as was Raton. Just my thoughts. Les

It looks like it's going to be about 5 hours from me anyway we cut it which is just fine with me. If the scheduling works out, count me IN. I already talked to the wife about it and we're going to try and schedule our work around it but we've put it on top priority.

jnyork:

There's a campground at Saratoga Lake with hookups.
http://www.wyomingtourism.org/overview/Town-of-Saratoga-Saratoga-Lake-Campground/4177

But if we decide on Saratoga, I hope the group is centered around Jack Creek Campground, Jack Creek Guard Station and Jack Creek Crew Quarters, located in the mountains to the West of Saratoga. I don't see anything about hookups but there are four RV pull-thru sites in the campground.

http://www.publiclands.org/explore/site.php?id=1486

http://www.reserveamerica.com/campi...parkId=73892&topTabIndex=CampingSpot

http://www.recreation.gov/camping/J...parkId=73891&topTabIndex=CampingSpot

It just occurred to me that if we go to Jack Creek, we might want to reserve the crew quarters for two nights. If everyone pitches in, then we could all use the showers and toilets.

KC

I like the greet and meet idea as well rather than a full blown week long affair or some such.

Where's Saratoga? My boss talks about it and he's from Laramie. Is it near Laramie?

It is west of Laramie

Map of Saratoga Area

I dont have anything against Saratoga, but I will be wanting to bring my own bunkhouse.

Yeah Saratoga sounds like a lot better deal to me too.

Nearby last 4th of July . . .

Saratoga looks like it's 150 or so miles closer to me, nice it's not far off Interstate 80.

edit to add, count me as a maybe, due to job schedules

I will be also....my redneck camper! Where ever we end up.

I agree with this, but you could also get on Medicine Bow National Forrest about 20 miles west of Glendo and shoot to your hearts content -- of Course We'd have to set up our own range to do it. Another idea would be just to set up the camp over here on Horseshoe creek and stay away from the lake altogether -- that's what I do and I live here.

KC, I've been away from the computer a while, and to try to answer some of your questions, I agree with wyoelk about the shooting around either of these lakes -- just around the lakes, there are options away from the lakes that are doable though.

As far as camping goes, there are RV hookups and all of that stuff at Guernsey and Glendo. Those places look like mobile home parks on the way in to either place -- you park right between two other trailers and call it camping-- if you want to go on into the lake and not stay in the trailer court there are a lot better places along the shores, but now you need to be self-contained and run on a generator if you want to be plugged in.

Like I said above, I usually avoid these places anymore, so much has changed in the last 20 years -- it's part of Colorado as far as I am concerned. Those of us in this part of Wyoming, for the most part, have a lot better options.

I am not sure entirely how the camping areas at the lakes work anymore either -- I think you get a numbered place at the ticket windows and can request to go to a certain area if available. I think you can also, at the time tell them that you and the three vehicles behind you all want to be adjacent, or something like that -- I really don't know if we could get ten or twenty spots all in a row like we would need.

Back to Horseshoe where we could shoot all that we wanted -- the roads are gravel for the last 20 or more miles to get here, but not that bad -- we could all park wherever and however we chose, shoot our guns, have our fires, let our dogs run around, not be told to turn down the stereo, or whatever.

But for this you don't get picknick tables, fire rings, or outhouses, let alone plugins or sewer hookups -- these are the kind of places you can find me most of the summer weekends (Well probably not right here at Horseshoe creek, as it is overfished in this public area, unless you want to hike a little farther than 90% of everybody else did -- now you're getting close to where I might be, but on a different creek ) Still fishing shouldn't be a complete strike out here either, just not something to boast about.

I know we can't have directions to this get together, end with, " . . .then you get out of your truck and walk the last ten miles", though either!

Another option nearby would be Greyrocks Res. 10 or so miles South of Guernsey -- This is a hot walleye lake for boaters and most of Colorado hasn't found it yet (Don't go telling them either ) I know a great place to shoot within ten minutes of this lake, but again we'd still have to set up our own -- camping is back to self contained here so bring your tables and stuff, but you still park where and how you like.

I am in favor of the Saratoga idea myself too now though -- Cody is cool, but as you can see, I try to stay away from the tourists as much as I can, and I promise you all that that can not be done around Cody, or Jackson Hole, in the summer very well. There are more things to do in these touristy areas though, that's why the tourists are there too.

There's a reason I don't go to the lake, and I live right here.....

At least not on a weekend!

If I go I'll be tenting if a site is available or sleeping in my truck otherwise.
I have a spare 12X14 wall tent if anybody needs a loaner.
I could leave early on Thursday, stop and cut some fire wood on the way and show up Thursday night or Firday
Is there room for a 14 ft flat deck trailer to be parked at these places??

Tracks I am sure there are. And that is mighty kind of you!

Jack Creek and the Sierra Madres are a great place. If you guys choose this you need to plan it about mid June, too much snow before that.

the issue is, i aint doing a 6-10 hour drive just for lunch as for the shooting and fishing stuff, might care if it was a week long thing but for a weekend thing ill be happy to sit around, drink a few beers and swap lies.....get a date and place locked down and ill see if i can make it, as i said so long as its north of the CO/WY border im in if the dates work....

My thoughts exactly rattler....swing by and pick me up, or I'll meet you in Billings!

Ingwe

could prolly do that quite easily.....

Cool more than a lunch but less than a week. How does a shrimp boil (shrimp, sausage, potatos, corn, whatever else we can throw in ...wyoelk and gotlost came up with this great idea) for one night sound and we'll figure out something for the next one?

Ya mean I don't have ta come pick ya up? Phew!!!

works for me....just gotta have some place we can crash for a night without harassment.....be it a motel room, in a tent, in the back of our truck or someones floor and we are happy....either a Friday night-Sun Morning thing or a show up Sat leave Sun...either works for me and dont need anything to distract my short attention span for that long other than good company, good food and good drink......

+1...Exactamundo....

Ingwe

Who would harrass a sleeping person? That might get someone clubbed at the very least! Where ever it happens I will be htere Friday afternoon.

If we choose Saratoga there is the campground and the crew quarters that accomodate 14 people IIRC. That is $180 per night and a good deal if we want showers etc. Split amongst us would it be nominal. I will have my own sleeping quarters. I have a large 30000 btu campstove and a turkey cooker w/burner to do a shrimp boil on. In the event that we rent the cabin we have to clean it before we leave. But a shower would be a big plus.

meant so long as i wasnt required to find some back road to park on to crash, though it aint like ive never done that

something along those lines sounds ideal, have done similar things for get togethers around here, rent a shelter-house with stove and restrooms and showers and everyone parks their campers around or grabs a chunk of ground for a tent for the weekend.....goes over real well....allows someplace inside to sit around and BS if the weather turns to chit....

This is sounding better all the time! Fishing, eating, visiting, a little shooting....just good times and good people!

I go pretty light and simple too, but I'm always pretty much 90% packed up for whenever it's time to go anyway. I just gotta grab a cooler and some grub and I'm ready. There's a couple extra tents and air mattresses already in here too if somebody wants to use them.

Crap... I need to get to the GD more often.

If I can make it work out with work and all, I'm game as well.

Since Ingwe and Rattler might ride together, I might have to pick up the P-whipped troll looking mofo over in Havre Or the hippy concrete worker in Boz-Angelas.

I say early June would be perfect. Spring bear is over and the rivers have a week or two before the fishing gets really good. I don't really care where, as long as its not much over a 12 hour drive.

Oh, burning some gunpowder is a MUST if I drive that far... Beer guzzling and eating good are a given

There seems to be enought interest in Jack Creek that Monday I'll make some calls to the FS to find out about availbility, and how early in June we can get the lodge.
I'll make some calls to the Biolgist in both areas to see how the P Dogs were going into the winter.

I will NOT LOCK IT DOWN YET.

gotlost as long as you are calling about reserving the lodge as about reserving camping spots too. or setting up tents/trailers at the lodge.

BTW instead of a cream can wyoelk suggested a turkey cooker. I have one of those as well as a Camp Chef stove like this Camp Chef Explorer Stove

The only open dates are the 4,5 th and 11th and the 12th of June. at the crew Quarters

OK IF those are the dates available and they fill up fast we need to make a move this week early. My choice would be June 11 & 12 due to the snow melt in the area. This facililty has 5 bedrooms and sleeps 15 so not everyone has to drag a camper, several of us also have extra cots. The cost is $180 per night, so with 10 people that it would run about $40 each for the 2 nights ($20 per night) I for one would donate just to have the shower opportunity. I will have my own camper so I won't need a bed in the cabin. gotlost just reserved the cabin so we don't lose it. We can cancel it if we choose another location.

That being said...let's take a vote on this!

If ew decide to on Saratoga we need to send funds to gotlost ASAP!

Jack Creek Crew Quarters has been reserved for June 11 & 12th. I can still cancel if I need to.
We'er not sure on how main people will show but I'd like to see the Guy/Gals who have to drive the farthest get first crack at staying at the Crew Quarter.

From the recent posts I see this, please correct me if I am wrong.....and some of yuo have changed your mind. Please update your opinion. Thanks

Cody-Buffalo Bill State Park & Cody Range
paladin
partagas
bigbuck215
ralphie

Thermopolis-Hot Springs State Park


Sheridan/Buffalo-Tongue River Reservoir
tarkio

Saratoga/Encampment-Jacks Creek Crew Quarters
KC
Tracks
gotlost
elkhunter76
JacquesLarami
wyoelk
tex n cal
ingwe
rattler
kamerad les
snake river marksman
himmler
jnyork
MackMan
rnr
alpinecrick

If needed the Guard Station has not been reserved yet, It will sleep 4 but is a lot more restic.

elkhunter:

You got it right, my vote is for Jack Creek - Saratoga.

Wherever we land, I will bring a travel trailer. If we end up at Jack Creek I will contribute to the cost of renting the crew quarters.

I can also make a couple of dishes for a pot luck dinner and bring a box of fire wood.

KC

There should be wood already cut and on site at the crew Quarters, that will not be the case at the Campground.

KC,

Appreciate the offer. We are thinking of a milk can type dinner or cajun/shrimp boil for one night. One pot and easy to do. We will see how many actually still want to come. Everyone I hope!

Keith

elkhunter:

My culinary skills are extremely limited and therefore I stick to things that I know will turn out OK (I don't want to poinson anyone). I might be cooking impaired but I have learned to do a very few things well. I cook a couple of items using wild game meat. One is a peasant chili and the other is burritos. Both would harmonize with a Mexican food theme. Beyond that everything that I cook is aimed at backpacking and quick-easy camp meals.

I could arrive early on Friday and have a meal ready to serve by the time that others arrive.

KC

Sounds great to me -- I'll be happy to pitch in just for a shower too or cabin to hang out in if it turns out that we get a rain day, but I won't be needing one of the beds either.

P.S.

Everybody had still better plan on having plenty of warm clothes, there could easily be snow, cold rain, or sunshine, or all of the above in that time of year there.

Here's another photo from not too far away last 4th of July . . .

I would also be there early Friday.

I'll plan for early Friday and bringing firewood for the campground. Will I need to reserve a site there?
Who gets the up front money and when?

OK, I'm in for Saratoga, I will have my camper and best fishing/hunting partner. I can be there Friday and contribute whatever to the grub. what's the story on reserving a camping spot, does not need hookups, dry camp is fine.

Kieth, I'll probably be able to get there Friday evening or Friday early (depending on what is going on with my work that week -- If I can, I'll just put someone else in charge Friday and take it off too).

Let me know what I need to bring as far as food and stuff -- Everybody will like it better if I stay out of the cooks way . But I'll sure as heck bring a big pile of stuff -- send me a grocery list and it'll be there!

Oh Yeah, and Gotlost, or however this is working, slip me an addy and I'll get you some cash too.

gotlost reserved the cabin so we need to get funds to him. He put the entire amount on his credit card. I asked him if we could reserve the camp spots. I think he is checking on that.............

Saratoga

looks like the weekend of the 18th is Press Convention so ill be free the 11th......the wife says she is game for the drive....

Saratoga/Jack Creek, Will work for me just fine!
I don't know what I'll bring ( a small camper, wall tent).
Let me know about food, what to bring or who to send funds
to. The dates sound good for me as I should be in the Walden
area about that time.
Charlie

Gee guys at that time of the year I want summer. WTF is that cold weather chit!!!!!

Think I'll stay in Montana if I have to put up with that chit. It'll at least be 100 degrees and I'll have my central air conditioning going.

Aw come on! You'll miss a great time and some great people! The elevation is 8500 ft you won't need central air! Beautiful country!

Gee at that elevation I'll need oxygen and heat. You guys are tough on Old P'tards.

It's WYOMING!! "Ya gotta be tough out here in the West, Pilgrim!" ( John Wayne)

Seriously, at that altitude, you can get a blizzard on the 4th of July. Be prepared for anything, I never go ANYWHERE in Wyoming at ANY time of the year without my cold weather survival kit in the back of the rig, it has paid off for me a couple of times over the years.

Still waiting on gotlost for camp spot info. I can't find the area close to the crew quarters.........

Found it http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/camping/brushcreek/jackcreek.shtml

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/campgroundstatus/mbr.shtml

They don't take reservations for the camp ground....

Derby -- You could be in charge of the fire in the fireplace at the cabin! It can be a hundred there if you like.

Sooo! What about us Kanuckistanians? Are we invited or what?
It's only a twenty four hour drive from my place!
And if things work out, I may be able to fit a BPCRS shoot or two, as well!
AAANNDD, almost better, I may be on my way to one of the 'smithing schools

What do I need to bring, if you all allow me to partake in this wonderful adventure?

Later...

Okay that covers the heat, now for the oxygen!

Jack Creek Campground�s pads are too short for my RV, and I don�t know what the Medicine Bow�s current position is on dispersed camping, so what is the name of the next closes campground? CP.

Of course you are welcome! Any Campfire member is welcome!

The campground there at the cabin says maximum overall combined length, truck and cammper, is only 22' , my truck is longer than that! The campground at Ryan Park looks fairly close and will take RV's, might have to stay there, I will contact Forest Service when I get back to Wyoming and try to figure something out.

No more than 28 days in one spot, but we will check on it. There are campgrounds in Saratoga.

Keep the questions coming. We will get the answers.

The 22' length should not be a problem, Post all your Question and I'll do my best to get them answered this week.

Hold off on the money issue until we get things lined out.

I am looking at a plan B incase of a late snow or a realy bad winter.

Jnyork, thanks in advance for the follow up. I know there is a nice RV park in town and that may be the best alternative for me.

Elkhunter76, some of the Forests are getting real pissy about where a guy can park his RV. I don�t know about the Bow, but at 8500� I would not be the least bit surprised that they have some Dispersed Camping regulations around where you can poke your RV. CP.

CP,

We will check on it, don't want anyone getting in trouble. We will get the details worked out and an alternate site in case of weather/seasonal related issues.

Keith

Thanks man�

I believe having an alternative spot, to adjust for unforeseen weather issues, is prudent. At any time of the year, Sara can throw some damn nasty weather at you. CP.

OK, here is a link I found for the Ryan's Park campground, they have spaces for RV's up to 32', including some pullthroughs. I still cannot for the life of me establish for sure where this campground is located in relation to the cabin site where we are proposing to meet. http://www.publiclands.org/explore/site.php?id=1494



A VERY good idea!! Must be a "Joe's Bar and Grill" around there somewhere.

Put me down for Saratoga. I love that area. I'll camp (stay away from the snore-ers )but probably take advantage of the showers. At $180 for the facility, it'd be pretty cheap, splitting the cost.

41.273900� LAT

-107.108505� LONG

on Google Earth for the Jack Creek Crew Quarters. Jack Creek Campground is adjacent. Access is just up the road.

I don't know how to make a 1 click link to this location on Google Earth or Google Map. Can anyone else help?

Ryan Park camp ground is 1 mile east of Ryan park on Hwy 130. ( snowy Range Rd)

Well now guys, I have missed this thread until recently...

Put me down for a June 11 & 12 date too, I should be able to make it. It's been a zillion years since I've been up in the Saratoga area.



Casey

Preliminary guest list:

elkhunter76 - WY
JacquesLaRami - WY
K Salonek - CO
pumpgun - CO
derby dude - MT
Stemshot - ?
KC - CO
Kamerad Les - CO
shrapnel - MT
leftycarbon - CO
duck911 - CO
weaselsRus - NV
Glock2240 - MT
JeffP40 - MT
Tracks - CO
remfak - CO
himmelrr - CO
tarkio - MT
rattler - MT
ingwe - MT
Rocky Raab - UT
Cheyenne - WY
jnyork - WY
prairie goat - MT
ranger1 - MT
paladin - WY
partagas - WY
Bigbuck215 - MT
Mark R Dobrenski - MT
MackMan - CO
Cinch - WY
Huntsman22 - CO
deflave - MT
gotlost - WY
Northern Dave - MN
John Moses - Somewhere down south
CP - MT
tex n cal - CA
Ralphie - WY
wyoguide - WY
Snake River Marksman - WY
rnr - CO/WY
alpinecrick - CO
Dan Adair - MT
wyoelk - WY (how in the heck did I miss that!)

Saratoga sounds good to us and 6/11-12 looks good as well. We would think about staying at the Hacienda Motel right next to the liquour store and the food store, to avoid supply problems of course. The cool thing about Saratoga is that it has inexpensive motels for people who don't want to take a big truck and camper or cart a bunch of camping stuff with them. Also, it is close enough to the national forest to do some dispersed camping. There is some nice land close to town along Pennock Mountain Road that has some nice camp spots along a cottonwood lined creek. IIRC, it is BLM land, but I would have to check. BLM and forest service rules on dispersed camping are rather generous (didn�t want to say �liberal� with this crowd). We could do Jack Creek as well. The crew quarters sound nice or we could take the popup.

We booked the Crew quarters with that in mind for those who don't have or don't want to camp. You have mentioned some very good options too! Between you and gotlost, it sounds like you two have some very good firsthand knowledge!

So who in Montana wants to ride with me and split gas?? Being I'm in the NW corner, there's a good chance I'm driving past there anyways. Looks like Kalispell to Saratoga is about a 15 hour drive one way. PM away... Tom, Travis?? Anybody else close by?

The sooner we have a fo' sho' date, the better my odds of getting some vacation time scheduled.

I'm liking the idea of a shower I'll probably throw the topper on my '04 and my air matress in the back... Save the beds for you geezers over 40

I also have a two burner Camp Chef, a dutch oven rack, two 10" dutchies and a 12" deep... AND a turkey fryer setup.

Elkhunter... Put me down as a definate maybe All I need is the time off and a ride along.

Ryan Park is a ways away from Jack Creek but not too far. Camping rules in the Sierra Madres are pretty relaxed, there are several spots to put big campers all over the mountain.

About six years ago we got snowed off the mountain on July 4th so be flexible with our wonderful Wyoming weather.

Add my name to that list Elkhunter. I will just pitch a tent but let me know if you some money for the rentals.

Oh, and I'm used to cooking for 5-8 people at a time out-doors in the summer. That and beer drinking is what we do after 6 when we're done fishing for the day...



Which reminds me, is a 4 or 5 weight 9' flyrod and a Kimber Montana in 260 enough hardware for a 3 day weekend?

The 4 weight will be plenty as is the 260.

You are on the list and the dates are June 11 - 13. We will discuss the menu and gear needed a bit later but I think we have most of it covered. Dutch ovens...hmmmm that has possibilities... I can learn something new!

ill be headed down through Miles City and south through Broadus unless ingwe really does need a ride from Billings on which is fine if he is willing to drive for a couple hours to make up for the detour

C'mon now every knows you need at least a surf rod for the brookies up there and nothing less than a 45-70 will do...


IF I have missed anyone please let me know! GOing back and forth I have done it more than once! My apologies!

And if you want your name removed let me know too...Thanks!

You can't drink beer and fish at the same time? Must be hard core.

And hip-waders... The bullshit is already getting deep





Dutchies are easy to get along with. I'd be happy to educate as much as possible

We're Irish, so we've done the needed research. Two beers, and you miss 2/3rds your strikes... Now I always take "plan B" beer on a float trip, and you'll not likely find to many others that can run a Bucks Bag one man half plowed better than me

Saratoga would be a chip shot from Ft. Collins, Co.

Lefty C

Based on the posts from the 2009 Tennessee Campfire Pig hunt the bar has been raised.....we have to have a better time than those eastern boys!

Thats the irony of it all...

We don't get together around hunting season, because we don't have too

Like Ingwe says, we do a years worth of "Living" from late August until about 2-3 weeks ago.


Maybe we should give serious thought to including the funds for a keg or three with the cabin money?? And everybody brings their own whiskey?

No way is this one going to be a Tool Convention like the Oregon get together

Oh, and I should officially be single by then.

So if any of you own lots of land in Wyoming and have a daughter, bring her along too

there is a hell of an idea i would also like to put a bid in for a bunk for the wife and i......we will haul a air matress along aswell and if someone needs it more than we do we can sleep in the back of the truck....but would prefer a bunk if one is open.....let me know what my cut for a bunk and the beer is and who to send it to

Nobody has claimed any space in the cabin yet. So you are more than welcome. We will try to put a list of sorts together as we go. gotlost will collect the funds as he is the one who paid up front. But he says to hold off for now. He will be making some phone calls this week to nail things down.

Regarding the kegs, IMHO best to bring beer by the can/bottle as it avoids permitting issues (this is true with state parks anyway). That way we can share different varieties/brands? Some simply are not available here.

good plan.....the town Doc opened up a microbrew about a month ago, will see bout getting him to bottle some up as he has just been doing kegs....

Dan...might be able to hop in and help defray gas costs....I'm same as you...nail dates down and itll be easier for me to get vacation days...got my fingers crossed anyway..

Ingwe

You old fart! (Oops I might resemble that remark ) You haven't been reading again...... June 11 - 13.

I am expected to READ..... AGAIN ....

Geez...this is awful demanding....

I just got back from working today, don't pick on me!

I told you my ego was fragile!



Marked it on the calendar..

Ingwe

Laffin...

It took me twice too Must be a Montana thing (us being slow) Thats why you Wyoming guys bugger chickens instead of sheep


Ingwe, I'd love to stop and pick you up (unless your ride does better than 22 MPG highway) Mebbe we could even get Travis to meet us in Helena or Butte? I'd call him but he's P-Whipped You'd think he's banging a cheerleader or something.

Whats Wyoming's law on "Road Soda" It a 100 dollar tickett like here or do they take open containers more serious?

well if you guys are talking bout traveling together.....guess ive got atleast one seat open for the trip maybe 2 but i may haul my brother along....more than likely we will hit Miles City and south through Broadus and such.....ranger1, want to split gas since im on your way south? would prefer to take my truck....

Danny...sounds like a tentative plan...

Road Soda..... two Irishmen on a road trip.....you gotta be kiddin...we will have to get Travis...to drive...

Don't know Wyo. laws on road soda but as long as they have mini-marts with large handled go-cups for coffee...were golden


Ingwe

Where the hell is Sammers??? That little bastid better plan on going...

We'll need an "Attack Poodle" to patrol the perimeter, and Maygan to keep his ass inline, and cook breakfast (can she mix a Bloody Mary?)

"road soda" (open container in vehicle) is NOT recommended in Wyoming, Highway Patrol and judges have no sense of humor at all on this issue. You dont have to be driving, the passengers also cannot have open container. Do me a favor and drive sober in Wyoming.

I was thinking we'd let the "Holy Wagonmaster" drive and the rest of us drink

Too bad Wyoming is another police state

I fell off the wagon dude...months ago...

And it didn't hurt!!

Ingwedog can drive...did I tell you she is wicked-smart??

Ingwe

Save the beer for the fishing when you get here. As jnyork said the WHP and LEO take a very dim view of it. Even if you are a passenger is it ill-eagle!

Oh and if you get rowdy, drunk and pass out.....

Dan it's good to have a fly rod whatever you prefer as well as a spinner set up-- There are some nice places where you can find some open water to cast a fly over, but there are as many, probably more places you can pop a Panther Martin or something around some boulders and brush where it would be difficult with a fly. Lot's of small water and thick cover too. I don't prefer this OR that, I prefer this AND that.

BTW, there's gold in those hills too -- So if you feel lucky, bring a pan.

Oh no......Sam's bringing that wolf eatin' ankle attacker?.......we be afraid........


Casey

Are the creeks and alpine lakes open by June 12? And can a guy shoot jacks and gophers without a hunting license in WY? CP.

Thats a whole lot better than an ass branding

For the most part yes -- the creeks will be running fast from the melt and most but maybe a few of the highest of alpine lakes will be open -- the higher up there you get the smaller the fish, but those kind taste the best anyway. The upper Platte, down in the valley by Saratoga and Encampment off towards Colorado ought to be Great fishing too and within an hour or so of camp.

Jacks and gophers, you bet!

Well, screw you and the horse you rode in on, you damned drunk!!
\
I'm out of this party.

Whoa gentlemen, I think there has been a misunderstanding. Let's not get into a dispute. This is supposed to be a fun meet and greet.... I think Dan Adair was referring to ingwe there jnyork.

that was my take......ingwe was gonna be the DD for Dan and Travis......drunken bastards....have no clue how in the hell im gonna get along with them

elkhunter, I'm gonna have to pass, looks like we're off to Bosnia again, that will put a kink in my vacation time.

Sure sounds fun, I am a killer Dutch oven cook, woulda liked to add you fellers to my list of victims

If Dan and others are willing to nut up and take a walk, there is some awesome brookie fishing on the fly somewhat close to Jack Creek. Provided the snow and ice are gone...

My internet is off and on ( barely on when it is) I am going to miss out on the dutch oven cooking. Maybe we can visit sometime. I am a newbie to it but would love to learn more.

Saratoga sounds fine to me. It'll give me a chance to also see an old friend that still cowboys on the TA. When I worked up there, one of the bars in Saratoga had a big glass display case full of mounted prairie dogs in a western town setting, all dressed in cowboy duds. Wonder if'n it's still there..........Cute deal.

Count me out for Saratoga. Too far to go. Jeff.

Call me a "maybe" due to work schedules - and please don't hold a spot in the cabin for me - give it to someone with a spouse, girlfriend, health issues, etc. I'll make do with a tent or sleep in the back of the truck if the weather's good. I too can bring extra air mattresses, and will chip in on the cabin.

Ummm...there aren't any grizzlies 'round, there, are there?

Anyone coming from CA, Nevada, or Utah is welcome to ride with me. I'm planning to make a week or so out of the trip, since I have never been that way before.

Not sure how much you'd learn from me, but most will eat what I concoct. We do make it to Wyo. some, parents live in Ranchester. Cool state, regardless of the drinking laws.

You betcha, a visit would work, cook, shoot p-dogs send the wimmen shoppin'.

Dude....


Really??


Remind me to bring you some fresh white lacey panties if you change your mind (there, now you have a reason to be offended)

leroy you still out there ,you anywhere near calgary airport ?don't know if i could swing it for time ,but easer for me to fly ,grande prairie to cal than drive?????

Hmm, I will probably be in the shoshone area shootin sod rats on them dates...I tote a little pop-up,so I dont need accommodations. if I decide to come south and take 80 home, are drop-ins welcome?

Count me in for the get together. Sounds like a good time and it'd be great to put faces with names.

Dan, if you want to ride with me you could start drinking earlier...

Geez...looks like I missed somethin' last night....

I guess not everyone is familiar with the concept of tongue-in-cheek...


Ingwe (aka Holy Wagonmaster...)

Sure are!



No griz there. But from the snoring going on at night you might wonder!

Rattler - Splitting gas sounds like a good plan - not sure I feel real safe leaving my pickup parked in your hometown for too long. Got a safe place to park it? One of the teachers up here left their vehicle parked down there for a long weekend and took the train somewhere - ended up less a few windows, tires, radio, anything of value.

yeah, drop it off in front of my parents house.....they never go anywhere my father in law has taken to parking his snowmobiles there for spring through fall cause they dont get messed with....

What I want to know is, is there going to be a decent hotel/motel for an old man and his Lady in town? You guys can camp at 8500 feet in the snow and cold, I want warm comfort at that time of the year and don't I want to have to put tire chains on my two-wheel drive car.

Tim,

The are rooms in Saratoga but that is why we got the crew quarters. Did you look at that place in the link on line?

And really the weather should be nice. Any snow left will bein drifts in the timber. You won't need to chain up!

If that needs to be done we won't be going there as the road will be closed.

Besides global warming will take care of it!

Keith

See any problems with riding a motorcycle there that time of year?
I may do that and just get a room.

Should not be a problem. Plenty of room in the lodge. 5 bedrooms no one has spoke up for one yet that I know. Heck if you guys don't want to use it. I darn sure will. Hot shower, bathroom. good beds....

Nope, I must have missed the link, sorry.

Don't talk to me about global warming, Sunday I shoveled about 6-8 inches of Algore BS. I figure my utility bill this mouth ought to push close to $400 because of global warming. I think in the spring I'm taking a global warming expert to the range and see if my .308 Win. bench rifle really will put a bullet in his eye at 200 yards.

Link to Jack Creek Lodge

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/cabinrentals/jackcreekcq.shtml

The lodge cost us $360 for the entire weekend. It sleep 15, has 5 bedrooms. if 10 people want to sleep there it would be $40� total per person for 2 nights. gotlost paid for it up front.

Thanks. I added to my favorites. What's those days again?

I'll have to show the wife.

June 11, 12, 13

the wife and i claim a bunk $20 a night is hard to beat.....will also have an air mattress along and can grab a chunk of floor if someone is in desperate need....

gotlost, just tell me when and where to send yah the funds for my share...

Better start a Lodge sleeping list! good deal!

Tracks
rattler
derby dude
KC
himmler

Please copy, paste and add your name and re-post if you want one!

norm99....
I am about 5 hrs NE of Calgary. Wouldn't be hard to swing that way. How much time do you have? I have lots of time. Plan on (God willing) to attend 'smithing school in the fall.
Am working on getting a trailer-not sure if 5th wheel, bumper hitch. I am hoping I can modify a 5th wheel to reach into my SuperCrew. It has 325x50R on 20" wheels, and a 5" lift. If not, well I still have my old '98 SuperCab

Let me know what your timing is. After 28 years of marriage, (just separated), am used to having a passenger
Like I said, I have lots of time, so I am open to suggestions!

Have to get hunting licenses for MT, WY, and CO at least.
Also need an invite to a shoot or two so I can take a few toys!

To you flyfishermen/ladies, Have never tried this-any takers on teaching this clumsy old fart- I should say attempt to!

Somebody mentioned land and unmarried daughters, I would like to add unmarried sisters, cousins, aunts,.... well you get the picture

Later..........

Hey sound s good when and where? and I like the BBQ and Shoting part too... lol

Im in Hot Springs , South Dakota...

I know WY pretty good the wind river range is really beautifull and theres fishing and camping there to it mostly national forest wecould make a primitive range .if we dont make a mess i dont think anyone will bother us werever we go . By new fork lake and such and theres a cool bar there also called the place.. and theres a road at the top of the wind river range thats a short cut from n east,or n west.

C'mon DD!!--you live in MONTANA for crying out loud........



Casey

Welcome to the Campfire and hope you can make the get together. At this point it looks like Jack Creek Campground near Saratoga!

I'll tent it and stay on the fringe of camp. I've been told I snore but as far as I'm concerned, it's only heresay.

I've been accused of that myself. I think people are tellin' stories is all!

Can you guys send me more info on the location ill be back late rto night going to site in a rifle and have dinner and beer,... thanks elkhunter 76...


vic.918 855 4215

see ya,, till later all, bye...

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/cabinrentals/jackcreekcq.shtml

41.273900� LAT

-107.108505� LONG

on Google Earth for the Jack Creek Crew Quarters. Jack Creek Campground is adjacent. Access is just up the road.

Jack Creek is a Go, I do have a couple of backups if needed. As long as there is not a late heavy snow or heavy rains we will be able to get in. FS is not sure if the water test from the state will be back for the Campground, other than that thing are going to plan.

water is easy enough to pack for drinking....wont matter for cooking or showers....

my brother says this sounds like fun and may tag along....aint going to claim a bunk for him though, if he tags along we will figure out what to do with him....he is good bout finding a low traffic corner of a room to pass out in

I always bring bottled water to drink. Cooking water will be boiling anyway before adding the taters, corn, shrimp and whatever else we toss in!

EH76, I passed, 80%, now I can have a life.

Better start a Lodge sleeping list! good deal!

Tracks
rattler
derby dude & spouse
himmler

Please copy, paste and add your name and re-post if you want one!


12/14/09@1510

Cool I was going to ask you how it went! Congratulations!

elkhunter:

I will be bringing a travel trailer. So no need to reserve a bunk for me or Mrs. KC in the crew quarters. I will contribute to the rental costs of the crew quarters so we can use the bathroom and shower.

KC

Not a problem, I just got a PM from gotlost you wanted one. You are removed!

Ya and I live in the city too.

I also make sure to live in the Capital and know that sooner ore later the roads will be plowed especially when the legislature is in town. Mama didn't raise no stupid boy you know.

No excuses.........

I would like to come too, but its too early to say when. It depends on my job.
It would be nice to put faces with the names from 24 hrs. Its only an 1 1/2 hour drive fr me.

We would welcome you!

leroy that can put you anywhere from Drayton V. to RMH to nordegg..I fly fish a little .dont catch mutch !!

They got cities in Montana?.......I was thinking they was just towns........



Casey

I was thinking teepees and sod huts.....

derby dude:

The Wolf Hotel in Saratoga is a class joint.

KC

You guys haven't looked at the lodge we reserved have you...

http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/cabinrentals/jackcreekcq.shtml

If you don't want to use it ok, but we will if you don't!

Okay, so how far from town is that Jack Creek whatever?

Ya, we got cities. Billings is a bigin. Great Falls and Missoula ain't too shabby. Helena is called a city but probably in any other state it would be a good size town.

Oh Good. Black bears pawing the tent are bad enough, Grizz could make me right nervous.

Note to self: "handload development of 370gr hard cast bullets at 1500 fps can wait until next fall".

My wrists thank you

Link to lodging in Sratoga, Wyoming

http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-480605-saratoga_vacations-i

To reach the Jack Creek Crew Quarters from Saratoga, turn west on Bridge Street across from the Wolf Hotel, then continue travelling west on County Road 500 to the Forest boundary (approximately 20 miles), then on Forest Development Road 452 for 5 miles.

KC

Thanks, I'll check everything out.

So it looks like town is about 25 miles out.

even the natives are smart enough to know teepees are stupid now a days......they are only up in the summer around here

Yeah you can wait on those super bullits Tex. Them black bears will usually run off if you just stomp your foot and holler at them -- unless they have cubs.

Here's another photo from not to far away around last 4th of July, but I didn't get out of my pickup to try the foot stompin' trick. I've never heard of a Griz in the Snowies or Madres, you have to get up closer to Yellowstone for those I believe.




You might want to keep your eyes open for these though . . .

Where is jack creek in relation to Saratoga? I could not find where it is located from the link. thanks tom

To reach Jack Creek Crew Quarters from Saratoga, Wyoming, turn west off Highway 130/230 on Bridge Street across from the Wolf Hotel, travel west on County Road 500 to the forest boundary approximately 20 miles, then on National Forest System Road (NFSR) 452 for 5 miles. The Jack Creek Crew Quarters will be located on the left (north) side of the road.

Uhhhh, so spare me from having to go through this whole thing...
This is what I get for not checking the Campfire section routinely.
What's the date? I think I'd be game for whatever.

ok thanks. Is anyone planning on camping? tom

June 11, 12, 13

Several are. The campground is fairly close to the lodge. Just across the creek

exbiologist & pumpgun:

June 11, 12 & 13.

Lots of people will be staying at Jack Creek Campground, which is close to the crew quarters.

Here's the link
http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/camping/index.shtml

KC

elkhunter: You beat me to it.

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leftycarbon - CO
duck911 - CO
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Tracks - CO
remfak - CO
himmelrr - CO
tarkio - MT
rattler - MT
ingwe - MT
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gotlost - WY
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tex n cal - CA
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wyoguide - WY
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wyoelk - WY (how in the heck did I miss that!)
exbiologist - CO
javalina - SD


Have I missed anyone coming or not coming??

I'm Tenting it!

elkhunter76.........

You can put LeRoy, from Edgerton Alberta, Canada, down as a definite.............




YES--I WILL BE THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will either have a trailer, tent, or the back of my truck.
Please let me know what I need to bring-meat and such is verboten. Also, what kind of firearms can we shoot. I am already bringing my Shiloh for BPCRS/prairie dogs. Not sure (but will find out) about bringing my original #3 Smith Russian. Maybe a black rifle?
What all are you folks bringing?

gotlost....
send me an addy so I can chip in as well. I am not much of a cook so, I will help with $$ and whatever else I can!

I would like to be down there a day or two ahead of time, but will see what norm99 has time for, if he rides along.

Later.......

Keith, I'm just guessing, but me and Danny are prolly camping too...don't want to inflict my snoring on decent folks..

Don't want to inflict Danny on ANYBODY ...

Ingwe

chit a Canuck is coming....we're gonna need more beer

I'm thinkin' so...eh!

Ingwe

What do you Wyoming guys think of the Hacienda Motel and the Silver Moon Motel?

I've stayed at the Hacienda a few times. It is nice and clean, and right next door to the food store and liquor store. It is right next to the airport but air traffic has been neglibible when I have been there. It is within walking distance to town. (about 4 blocks) I have no experience with the Silver Moon. I also have stayed at the Riveria "Lodge". It is an older motel than the Hacienda, but it has a couple of rooms with Platte River frontage, and it has a green space with Platte River frontage. It is in town.

Thanks.

ROGLMAO!
OK guys...
tell ya what, I'll bring some REAL beer with me. Should only take a couple of them to put you Yanks on the ground LOL

Can't wait!

keep and mind ive been drinking microbrews at the new pub in town for the last month......his start at 5.4 and go up....my favorite is nearly 8%

have spent alot of time in Alberta and Sask, you Canucks have always shown me a good time....from what i remember atleast

I'm cheap...and I'm easy...I'll take you up on that!!!

Always had a ball north of the border as well...

Ingwe

OK LeRoy save at least one for me from these guys...

ingwe, you and les can camp on the perimeter and snore up a storm to make sure the chupacabras stay away.. but the moose might make amorous advances on you two....

Sure hope someone stays in the lodge since we reserved it!

Lodge sleeping list!
Tracks
rattler
himmler
Dan Adair
ingwe

Ohhhhh NOOOOO!

My butt still hurts from last time.....


Ingwe

I'll be there as well, and I'll be tenting it. Do we need to reserve camp spots for this shindig?

Just saw it's first come, first serve. With the numbers planning to attend, we may have to spill over into other campgrounds? Or can we get away with setting up a tent or two by the lodge?

Would there be any interest in a similar gathering for the West Coast contingent? I have a location. Let me know.

Just a suggestion, but you might start your own thread. You might get more response that way from people who are interested.

Thanks. Good idea, you guys seem to be having so much fun I thought others might like to do the same.

i agree and say yah should set one up but at this point its mainly the MT, WY, and CO guys looking at this thread.....a thread of your own should hold the best chance of success.....

You will have a million or so acres to use at your pleasure. Only spots that might actually need reserved are the campgrounds (depends on the campground, never actually stayed in one). No laws against going down the road and throwing up a tent.

That's good to hear and as it should be, but one never knows. Thanks for the reply.

Sorry Whip I missed your question earlier. Thanks wyoelk!

Whip I don't think we wilol have a problem that time of year. Also there are several campgrounds in the area. But was wyoelk says there are few restrictions. During elk season it looks like a tent city up there.

Hmmmm. Being how noobdy is grabbing bunks yet... Put me down for one PM me with details for where to send the funds. If something comes up last minute, I'll donate my bunk to my illegitiment Uncle Ingwe.

Whip, and Ingwe... Maybe we should split gas 3 ways A Gahssage a Twah

Hey wait a minute... I just re-read that post of yours I guoted, Ingwe....

I'm a friggin choir boy???!!

OK Keith...I'm with Danny..put me down for a bunk if there still is one..Illl reimburse Gotlost....

Dat way we wont have to carry all the extra gear...and I can be inside, riding herd on the Choir Boy....


Ingwe

Ok I modifed the bunk list! Wasn't rattler's brother coming? I'll prolly park my trailer at the cabin as I am thinking that is where we will cook?

Lodge sleeping list!
Tracks
rattler (and bother)
himmler
Dan Adair
ingwe

Thanks Keith!


Ingwe

I'll try to park my trailer by the crew quarters also. Has anyone been to this place? Is there room for trailers in the grounds around the crew quarters?

KC

We may or may not be able to do that after reading the USFS website. They accomdate 3 vehicles there, BUT we will work something out!

gotlost & wyoelk have been by there I beleive.

Anyone close to Hot springs South Dakota, Wanna car pool..!!
Im camping, or back of truck, dnow yet. might have a trailer by then. !! any one comeing down early from north east wants to stop in hot springs give me a call i dont have much room here but theres koa and other camps here i gotta find out when sturgis is cause it might be busy round here at that time k

vic

918 -855-4215

I think sturgis is a little after this.

I suspect our annual June car show may land on this weekend.

Are we targeting June 12?

ND...looks like June 11, 12, 13....

You need to be there....

I'm gonna be sick of Danny after the long drive, and will need someone to talk to....

Ingwe

I'll see what I can do but it's likely the same week as our car show, unless the guys plan on doing it a week later this year.

Wouldn't be that big of a deal for me to skip but my daughter has a 65 mustang now that she'll want to bring to that show.

Was thinkin' of that 'stang when I saw your post...

Try and make it, it'll be fun!

Ingwe

We'll see, i'll check witht he guys & see what the date is for our show this year. If i can make it i'm likely to just hop on the bike with a tent strapped on someplace & saddlebags full of clothes & such.

Dat would be phun!


Ingwe

How bout somewhere in Cheyenne??

I assume you responded to my first post in this thread. It has evolved into a weekend meet and greet at Jack Creek near Saratoga. Jun 11, 12 & 13

Looks like I won't be able to make it this time. I just found out the Linebaugh Shoot is the same weekend.

David

Doggone it! Sorry to hear it. Don't they hold the Linebaugh shoot every year though?

Northern Dave and Tracks, or any other bikers for that matter -- it should be good but if there is snow or mud on the road near the end of the trail, I'll send you a cell no. (providing we have service up there) and would be happy to come down the hill in a pickup to get you. It'll be plumb easy to get into Saratoga on a bike in June, I can't vouch for the dirt roads though. I'd hate to see someone ride a bike all the way then not be able to make the last ten miles.

I got my Ol' Lady's Exploder stuck up around Rob Roy last June briefly, there was just that one little drift on a lot of good road, but that's all it would of taken to been the end of the line for a motorcycle (well the road kind anyways).

Not to worry, I'm back to taking my truck now. I need to bring some beer and stuff.
Got a local brewery that makes some stuff even the canucks will like.

A couple of questions for the Wyomingites.

What's the road like (220/287) in the summer between Casper an Rawlins?

I could take Route 287 from Helena to Rawlins. What's the route like in the summer in Wyoming?

Route 287 from Helena to Rawlins to Saratoga is about 570 miles. I think I can do that in a day. Day light savings time and all.

Thanks.

We paved it! Actually is it is a good road. Well traveled. Busy at times. Like anywhere, pass carefully.

Thats good to know.... Google Maps said I should leave Helena and head down the interstate to Salt Lake City, then take the other interstate to Saratoga?? Like 987 miles [WTF?]

Which route are you talking about 220 or 287?

I'm thinking of using 287 as it's a direct shot to Rawlins.

I know that Route 287 from Helena to Ennis is a good route. Helena to Three Forks can be tough with all the nuts...er....I mean people going to work. From Three Forks to Ennis should be a piece of cake. From Ennis to Rawlins is what I don't know about.

Too lazy to go through all the post....we have a date and place.

All guys or girlfriends and wives. (not both at the same time)

LC

Not unless you're willing to share one or the other!!

Saratoga is less than 2 hours from me. Where is Jack Creek?

The only Jack Creek I could find on the net was up near Cody somewhere.

Either....220 out of Casper intersects 287 at Muddy Gap. 287 comes out of Lander. How far are you from I90? I would take I 90 to I 25 down to Casper, then 220 over to 287. YMMV

I don't have a MT map in front of me. I have heard of Ennis, just not sure where it is.

Wives and girlfriends are welcome.

Jack Creek Campground is west of Saratoga about 25 miles. EH posted a map earllier.

my wife is tagging along, dont know bout anyone elses.....as a third generation newspaper publisher you wont have to worry bout offending her delicate sensibilities though

To reach Jack Creek Crew Quarters from Saratoga, Wyoming, turn west off Highway 130/230 on Bridge Street across from the Wolf Hotel, travel west on County Road 500 to the forest boundary approximately 20 miles, then on National Forest System Road (NFSR) 452 for 5 miles. The Jack Creek Crew Quarters will be located on the left (north) side of the road.

There I printed it so I won't have to keep asking.

I could go to Three Forks and connect to I-94 and drive across Montana to Billings. Than connect to I-90 and drive south across Wyoming. Than connect to I-84 and drive a third of Wyoming to Saratoga. But that seems the long way to me. Or I could jump on 287 out of Helena and drive straight through to Saratoga. The 287 route although two lane seems the shorter and most direct route.

I'm open to suggestion if anybody has one.

I could jump on my private jet and fly in too but probably not in this lifetime.

DD,

I just wasn't sure where exactly you were in relation to I 90.

Coming down 287 should be just fine!

Keith

Guys in Montana, Derby, others. If you are closer to Hardin than Red Lodge, I would come down the Interstate from Hardin to Casper then (without looking up any road numbers, I still don't use them ) go Southwest through Alcova to Rawlins. Or turn towards Shirly Basin before you get to Alcova -- to Medicine Bow then Walcott it's about six of one half dozen of the other.

If you are closer to Red Lodge, then I'd come down through Cody, Thermop, Riverton, Jeffery City, Rawlins.

Either way, you DO NOT want to go clear to Salt Lake (Unless you're riding in a Greyhound bus, like I had to from Shelby one time, years ago)!

Thanks.

Well, yes they have in the past, but the last time I talked to John, he wasn't sure he was going to do any more in Cody. Could be all talk, so I'll herd him up again and see.

Either way, I could end up having to work and not make either one.

David

220-287 is good runnin.

watch for lopes.

287 your best bet DD 200 miles less a little more relaxing,chance to scout more deer and elk country .

Thanks. Yup, it looked the best way to go to me too.

I'll be leaving from NE Denver about 1:00pm on Friday the 11th. If anyone wants to carpool or needs a ride, I have one empty seat in my Tundra. Just send me a PM.

RH

So we've talked about roads, who's staying where, etc...


Now, back to beer and food

Everyone brings a 24 pack or Local Stuff to the party for our cultural exchange??

Who all has real Dutch Ovens on here?

You can school us on dutch oven pizza Dan.

Note to self.....bring lots of TUMS.

A big +1 on this. Thinking Dan needs to bring the fixings for some of his pizza after his last pictures of the same.

Still drooling here...

If heading into Rawlins, there is a quicker way than Walcott to Saratoga. Let me know if you need directions. It is a little confusing but faster than heading from Rawlins to Saratoga and up to Jack Creek.

This applies to those guys hitting Rawlins from the North or West.

wyoelk, I heard they are going to pave the road from Rawlins all the way to the forest this year, that could be a bit of a mess if the are. I'll bet EH76 could find out about that for us.

And since Danny will be staying in the lodge...where EH76 says the cooking will take place...


I'm just sayin....


Ingwe

If some here had their way, they would pave the whole state. I just don't get it. They seem to pave dirt roads seldom traveled (not that the road south out of Rawlins isn't) to "give people access to their public lands", then the forest service and blm restrict access every chance they get and want to charge fees when you get there.

Sorry for the high jack. Rant over.

Nah, go ahead and rant. I agree with you. However, the decision to pave that, right or wrong, is motivated by public input/pressure. An example is that people expect to be able to drive 75 mph on I80 year round. States in the east and west want 3 lanes each way on I80 and want it open 365 days/year.....


gotlost if that is a USFS road or county road it won't show up in our system. We got out of that business....thank goodness.

Great stuff to the guys in Wyoming.......

Just got caught-up. I'm in for camping. Is there any ATV riding/trails in the area?

Wyoming only has two seasons, Winter and road repair.

(Guess I spent too much time on I-80 in single lane traffic led by a 45 MPH motor home)

Dutch oven owner, and will bring a couple growlers of the local Brew.

This I did not know and if it is the case, it will be a huge mess. They were redoing the two bridges this year but we never even slowed down for those. I think that is a county road.

For those interested in riding ATV, there are several roads you can ride on (any open FS road) but you do have to have a Wyoming ORV permit, about $15.00. They are also starting to get sticky on insurance as well, make sure you have some.

Kieth, Wyo. 71 (sage creek rd) it's paved to with in a few miles of High Savery Res all ready.

At least we fix them!

So anybody got ideas for activities? I wouldn't mind plinking a few .22's at some necco candies. Maybe a simple/quick competition w/ bragging rights on the campfire?

Any other ideas?

You know..... Some steel at UKDs would be fun

Dutch Oven Trash Can Pizza for 20+ people??? Its cheap... Easy.... Done in under a couple hours... Who all has a 12" deep?



Sirloin Tip roasts with spuds and onions are even easier, just take longer

Thats the problem with DO cooking.... If you do a couple roasts in two ovens, thats 4-5 hours of beer drinking while waiting on dinner.

I also pretty much have my backwoods Jambalaya recipe tweaked to exactly where I want it (a good one to try in a couple turkey fryer pots perhaps???) and with the sausage making my Dad and I have been up to, there's a whole new realm of possibilities there. A perfect Jambalaya sausage is on the agenda and with his annual pepper crop it'll put the generic 'authentic' Andouilles to shame (who actually eats jalapenos?)

If we can round up enough Dutchies, I don't have a problem playing 'O Holy (Chuck) Wagon Master I'm sure I can find a few volunteers to help drink beer and supervise

I fail to see your problem there...

Dan,

gotlost and I were thinking of a cream can dinner for Saturday night, but using turkey cookers. Kind of like a cajun boil. BUT I like your idea too! I have several dutch ovens ranging from 10" to a 14" DEEP. We have time to work out the details.

Keith

And I'm real adept at the Supervisory Capacity....


Ingwe

Sorry, I already have claim to that position. But you can be my co-conspirator er.... my co-supervisor! now we just have to find someone to fetch refreshments!

My resume' includes experience in maintaining the chef's and co-conspirators hydration levels...
Consider the position filled.....

Ingwe

I will have to get with Dan. this dutch oven idea may have merit!

Like you said... Once its closer to go-time we'll have an idea how many we're feeding.

I'm interested in this Cajun Boil??? Whassat? Shrimp and snausage, and chickin in a pot?? Mop it up with sourdough? Like scotter the hillbilly meets chiapino? I'm always up for new things (unless it involves Sammers and a squeeze chute)

IT can be potatos, italian snausage, ear corn, shrimp or crawdads or both, seasoning, onions, the list goes on. When done, cover a table in newspaper and dump it out. Very good! Bread is a must!

Hmmm.... Sounds like I need to learn the finer points

You guys have crawdads worth trapping? Or the little 1 1/2"ers like we got up here?

I like the way you think...

We have bigguns, but I would buy the seasoned frozen whole ones to use for this.

Its starting to sound like we may each get a turn at O' Holy (chuck) Wagon Master

Ingwe will always be the OHWM, BTW He can lecture us on the ills of going on safari and guzzling booze.

Of course he did it all for charity Oreo's for Africa

The tone and spectrum of the lectures increases in direct proportion to how far Ingwe gets from the Wagon!
We gotta get Sammers down there, I'm sure you guys can find a squeeze chute in Wyoming......I'll be the photographer...

Should be good for a coupla threads back here at the 'fire..

Ingwe

Here's a couple of photos from the '08 rendezvous at Whittington.





KC

Now that is what I am talking about!

How about some turkey and andouille sausage gumbo? And/or maybe some crawfish etouffee? My wife will be joining me, and our 17 year old son has expressed interest as well.

I like your idea Cheyenne far better than mine! What would we need? I would definitely be willing to help out with that!

My wife will make it too if work/school does not interfere.

I'm 19hrs or 1300 miles from Cody, thats a long way for lunch!!

Apparently you have not read the whole thread! This has eveolved a bit into a weekend get together. You are welcome to come along! And it is not in Cody. It is near Saratoga.

I'm layin' back in the weeds....

Squeeze chute?
Sounds like a good idea!

Ingwe

Wearing pink.....Gotta be Adair!

And look at that grip!

Sam! He was layin' out in the weeds in ambush!

Bullchit it is, that's Dan!

Dam...you're good....but I made that too easy....

But it proves Danny started on sheep before there were knee high irrigating boots and velcro gloves......


I love it when hes working or slumming crazy chicks and can't defend himself....

Ingwe

He couldn't defend himself if he was here.....(grin)

True dat....

'specially the "crazy chicks" part...

Ingwe

You're not gonna let him bring firearms along are you?

Yeah, shure.....


But no boolits!

Ingwe

Or blanks!

Sounds like Danny's gonna be cooking..he won't have time for guns.....hes gotta make dat Dutch Over Pizza

Ingwe

You haven't been reading again!!! Cheyenne suggested turkey and andouille sausage gumbo? And/or maybe some crawfish etouffee...

dutch oven pizza for lunch?

I am all for lots of good food!

I did too read that!!


Liked it too....I likes me some gumbo...

and believe it or not I have never eaten crawfish!!


And you are NOT gonna get me drunk enough to suck the juice out of the heads!!

Danny, yes, me...noooooooo

Ingwe

Ummmm... We do have a few nights. One night, shrimp boil, one night Dan?

yup whatever works there is lunch too!

Dan is not leaving Wyoming without a demo of his pizza in a dutch!

I will show him a great fishing spot and not show him the way home until he promises to cook.

agreed!

Seriously?????

The head juice is the bomb...

We will get him inebriated enuf to do it.

Okay, you Wyoming guys.

Am I going to get into trouble crossing over into Wyoming with my Ruger/Kidd match 10/22 and a couple of thousand rounds of .22lr?

Any license required to pop off gophers with said rifle?

Any place where we are that has gophers?

I'll probably need some one to transport me around that has a 4X4 as all I have is front wheel drive Buick Century.

No license required. I am sure we can accomodate your transportation and target needs!

Thanks. No problem being in state with a rifle from some one from Montana? I sure don't want you guys to have to bail me out of jail.

[bleep], I take the day to do some Christmas shopping and The President of Oreo's for Africa is posting pics from my childhood??

Here was Sammers as a kid




Dutch Oven Pizza huh? I guess I'm going to have to put on a demonstration while I'm there... May even have to get with my dad and have him whip up a batch of Italian Sausage and some pizza dough? Might even bring along a couple cannonballs of Montana sourdough (Got a starter that came from up the North Fork of the Flathead, like it better than the for real deal San Freako starter we got.)

If we can round up 2 Camp Chef 2 burner stoves (I have one) and 4 12" deep Dutchies (I have one and maybe can borrow two) that should be enough pizza to feed 12-15 really hungry dudes...

I like the idea of a BYOM (turkey, chicken, sausage, shrimp, crawfish) giant ass pot of Jambalaya. Do that in a turkey fryer pot and that should feed the friggin entire group pretty easy. I got a turkey fryer too

What about a Pitchfork Fondue.?..? Thats a regional delicacy.

gotlost and I both have 2 burner campchef stoves. we also have turkey cookers.

DO pizza sounds good.

We will need to get as firm a committment and headcount as possible for planning the meals/buying food supplies.

This is all sounding too good...can we move the date up???

Ingwe

No but we can have a practice run at a different location!

it ruins a perfectly good steak........

Who do you think would bail you out? And why would someone do so?