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in 2010 I plan on taking the wife & little kids to San Antonio,(sea world,etc..) and had contemplated going across the border for a 1 day trip and I needed some help

is it safe?
do we need passports?
do we need to drive/walk over?
what to do when we get there?

thanks for all the help,I am absolutely an idiot on the subject.
The answer to the first question is NO, making the others mute.
thank you,thank you,thank you
blackeyedueler,

I'd stop at question #1 ... it is not safe there, and that's especially true of the border towns. Ciudad Juarez is the worst right now (across from El Paso) the body count is staggering. Nuevo Laredo (your most likely crossing) is the #1 port for U.S./Mexico/Canada commerce. The drug business has found its way there, too. I wouldn't risk my family's safety for an opportunity for cheap crap. Take 'em down to Corpus Cristi instead and enjoy the beach.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The answer to the first question is NO, making the others mute.
I think ya mean Moot, ya blasted redneck! wink
Originally Posted by Kamerad_Les
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The answer to the first question is NO, making the others mute.
I think ya mean Moot, ya blasted redneck! wink


Ain't that what the cows did yesterday? smile
If you look hard, you might see some Mexicans in San Antonio! grin When are you going?
Yeah, I don't remember seeing may Messycans in San Antonio, maybe they are thinning the herd. wink
Why on Earth would you want to go there anyway?
Mexico can be a great adventure, but it is just not safe. It may be getting hotter still...

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/12/17/general-lt-drug-war-mexico_7221193.html

Mexican navy kills top cartel kingpin in shootout
By OSWALD ALONSO and ALEXANDRA OLSON , 12.17.09, 11:16 AM EST

CUERNAVACA, Mexico -- Two hundred Mexican Navy marines stormed an upscale apartment complex and killed a reputed drug cartel chief in a two-hour gunbattle, one of the biggest victories yet in President Felipe Calderon's drug war.

Arturo Beltran Leyva, the "boss of bosses," and six members of his cartel died in the shootout Wednesday in Cuernavaca, just south of Mexico City, according to a navy statement Thursday.


The body of one cartel member was found on the ground outside the third-floor apartment, after he apparently committed suicide during the shootout.

Cartel gunmen hurled grenades that killed one marine and wounded two others, one of whom is in serious condition, the navy said. Two women and one man were detained during the raid, and five assault weapons were seized.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene heard at least 10 explosions during the firefight, which residents said lasted at least 90 minutes. Witnesses said the raid began when marines rappelled down ropes onto the roofs of some of the apartment buildings at dusk.

Reporters were briefly allowed inside the apartment where Beltran Leyva's body still lay early Thursday; his skull and one arm were mangled by bullet wounds, and in one hand he clutched a large gold-colored medallion.

"First they were asked to surrender, but they didn't yield and they opened fire," said one of the ski-masked marines who participated in the raid, and who was not authorized to give his name.

President Felipe Calderon, speaking from the Copenhagen climate summit, said "this action represents an important achievement for the government and people of Mexico, and a resounding blow against one of the most dangerous criminal organizations in Mexico, and on the continent."

Calderon described Beltran Leyva as "one of the three most-wanted" drug suspects in Mexico. By most estimates, the other two - both still at large - are Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman and Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada.

Residents of the apartment complex said the raid appeared carefully planned. Sailors went door-to-door before the gun battle to quietly evacuate residents to the gym.

Beltran Leyva is the highest-ranking figure taken down under Calderon, who has deployed more than 45,000 troops across Mexico to crush the cartels since taking office in December 2006. Mexico's navy often has been used in the battle as well. The offensive has earned Calderon praise from Washington even as 14,000 people have been killed in a wave of drug-related violence.

Beltran Leyva had narrowly escaped attempts to arrest him in recent months, including a Friday raid on an alleged drug cartel holiday party at mansion in the town of Tepotzlan, near Cuernavaca, where they killed three alleged Beltran Leyva cartel members and detained 11.

They also detained Ramon Ayala, a Texas-based norteno singer whose band was playing at the party, on suspicion of ties to organized crime. His lawyer, Adolfo Vega, denied Ayala had ties to the Beltran Leyva gang, saying the singer didn't know his clients were drug traffickers.

The last time Mexican authorities killed a major drug lord was in 2002, when Ramon Arellano Felix of the Tijuana Cartel was shot by a police officer in the Sinaloa resort of Mazatlan.

Beltran Leyva was one of five brothers from the Pacific coast state of Sinaloa who once worked side by side with Guzman, the leader of the Sinaloa Cartel. The brothers split with Guzman several years ago and aligned themselves with Los Zetas, a group of former soldiers hired by the rival Gulf Cartel as hit men. The split is believed to have fueled much of Mexico's bloodshed of recent years.

One of the brothers, Alfredo Beltran Leyva, was arrested in January 2008.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration says the Beltran Leyva cartel has smuggled tons of cocaine into the United States, as well as large quantities of heroin.

The Mexican government had offered a $2.1 million reward for Beltran Leyva's capture.

U.S. officials say the Beltran Leyva Cartel has carried out heinous killings, including numerous beheadings of rival traffickers or kidnappers invading what the gang considered its turf.

The gang also has had great success in buying off public officials, including employees of the federal police and prosecutors, to protect their business and get tips on planned military raids.
Border Mexico is much worse than interior Mexico. Unless you want to expose your kids to the really seedy part of life I'd skip it.

I'd stick to SA and do Sea World which I really enjoyed even tho it wasn't my typical thing and the river walk, eating, shopping, make a drive out to the hill country for a day and look, stop in some of the microbreweries and grab a beer/food, sightsee on the wildlife etc....Or drive south down toward Uvalde for the day and see the South Texas brush and Uvalde and the sights.
i love Mexico, and really like just average Mexican folks in general

it's a shame the country is being run by thugs, and then there's the bad actors that ain't politicians too!

for my money gov't is a waste in Mexico or here, they do very little that actually needs doing, their main function seeming to be to terroize the law abiding and suck the juice outa the fruits of their labor.
Yep, Enjoy SA and take a ride out around Hunt/Ingram/Junction then south around Leakey/Concan/Uvalde then back up to Bandera.
Mexico is FUN, but I skied on a pizza box down I-10 one time too.
our generation's contribution to society has been greatly diminished that we had no cell phone video capability to document our attempts to go where no man has gone before!


Pity, that.


I'm sure the pig hunt brethern would surely have enjoyed observing your feat of skill and balance Pat.
...more like beer, balls and brainlessness!
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Cartel gunmen hurled grenades that killed one marine and wounded two others, one of whom is in serious condition, the navy said. Two women and one man were detained during the raid, and five assault weapons were seized.


I suppose now we will have calls for investigations on how they are buying grenades at gun shows in the US.

Jerry

Originally Posted by ltppowell
...more like beer, balls and brainlessness!

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Greatly diminished??
'Fraid so.
More on the Mexico deal... 16,000 dead in three years.

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Mexican drug lord shot dead


Beltran Leyva's death will likely prompt a spree of violence by gangs seeking to reclaim territory [AFP]


One of Mexico's most wanted drug lords has been killed in a shootout with government forces in the country's navy south of Mexico City.

Arturo Beltran Leyva, dubbed "The Boss of Bosses," was killed on Wednesday during the fight with about 200 naval sailors in a luxury residential complex in the southern city of Cuernavaca.

"We confirm the death of Arturo Beltran Leyva. He was killed in a navy operation in Cuernavaca," said a Mexican navy captain.

Six of Beltran Leyva's bodyguards died in the fighting.

Drug violence

The death of Beltran Leyva is a boost for Felipe Calderon, the Mexican president, who launched a war against drug cartels after coming into office in 2006.

"This is a victory for Calderon in the short term, but his [Beltran Leyva's] position will be filled very quickly," said Alberto Islas, a security analyst.

The shootout came after suspected drug gangs dumped the severed heads of five police officers and a prosecutor outside a church in the northern state of Durango on Wednesday.

The heads were left in plastic bags discovered by rubbish collectors as blood ran out of the bags onto the street.

Islas said more violence was likely in the wake of Beltran Leyva's death, as rival drug gangs attempt to take back territory lost to the drug lord in recent years in southern Mexico and Mexico City.

Territorial war

The Beltran Leyva brothers, who were considered responsible for the importation and distribution of tonnes of cocaine into the US, had been involved in a bloody fight over smuggling routes into the US with former ally Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman.

A $2.4 million bounty had been placed on Beltran Leyva's head by Mexican authorities seeking his arrest for organised crime activities and kidnapping.

In August, Eric Holder, the US Attorney General, announced an indictment against the drug lord and other Mexican smugglers for moving billions of dollars of cocaine across the US border.

Navy forces have increasingly joined army troops and federal police in the fight against drug barons

The US Treasury Department said last week the US had frozen the US assets of 22 individuals and 10 companies linked to the Beltran Leyva.

More than 16,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence between rival gangs and security forces in the last three years.


News today reads another big shot Mexican drug lord got wasted down there today, right?

Going by memory of a quick news blurb this am so not certain.
There's all sortsa' really unique, and different things to see, out in those dusty, smoky hills of Old Juarez,

I'm not sure that you want your Wife, and Little kids seein' em', though

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
The answer to the first question is NO, making the others mute.
Ditto plus 1000.. And yes, 'moot' is the proper word.. laugh
It doesn't have to be a major kingpin and his goons,....the little "random" incidents are just as likely to get one hurt.

Example:

Two vehicles hit by gunfire at Nogales port of entry
Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 12.15.2009

Several shots were fired near the Mariposa Port of Entry in Nogales on Monday, striking two vehicles waiting in line to enter the United States.
Between six to eight shots rang out at about 7:45 p.m., striking a bus and car as they awaited entry into the U.S., said Brian Levin, Customs and Border Patrol spokesman.
No injuries were reported and the port was closed until 8:25 p.m.
The shots came from Mexico and were not fired by someone in line, Levin said.
The incident is the first of its kind at the port, which is now on heightened alert.
�We are being very vigilant of what is around us,
Originally Posted by isaac
News today reads another big shot Mexican drug lord got wasted down there today, right?

Going by memory of a quick news blurb this am so not certain.


good catch!


don't think Pat knew a thing about it. whistle
I was talking about the donkey in Boudreau's Auto Service Shop at the campfire in Tennessee Saturday night and "the Judge" started laughing and told us it reminded him of he and Bob's trip to "Boy's Town".
that Bob, he do get around.....speaking of such, did he get cremated lately?
Ooops! Sorry about that.

Pat...I can't believe his honor felt comfortable admitting he was with me on that trip! What a day for the memory books.Or, one to forget maybe.
Don't forget about the other Mexican hobby, kidnapping and ransoming Americans for fun and profit. You could not pay me enough to take a family into that hell hole.
I just can't understand why tourists aren't FLOCKING South in veritable droves,.......

GTC

El Diario, Norte (Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua) 12/16/09

Juarez violence continues

�Yesterday the city lived another violent day that left a result of 15 murdered persons and one wounded.� [That is the beginning of an article in �El Diario,� that then goes on to a matter-of-fact description of the different bloody events. This item was included among a secondary listing in the local section�s �Other News.� The main, bold print, local news featured instead such items as the continuation of a commercial plaza project and the call by the Mex. Soc. Sec. agency for persons to initiate paperwork and applications in case they wish to travel to the interior of the country.] �Norte� added that, with yesterday�s toll, Juarez has now reached a total 2,528 victims of homicide this year.

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Frontera (Tijuana, Baja Calif.) 12/16/09

Violence also goes on in Tijuana

From this paper�s front page: �The wave of violence continues; 8 dead in TJ during the day, and counting.� [That was recorded in at 13:52 hrs.; however, an appended side note reported the subsequent finding of three more victims of assassination in the El Florido section of town.]

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El Informador (Guadalajara, Jalisco) 12/16/09 � The following item also made news in at least a dozen other Mexican papers.

A bloody church

In Cuencame, Durango, a cleaning crew in a church started its work this morning (Wed.); there, they saw what they thought was trash left behind in black plastic bags. But there was also blood among the bags. The six bags each contained a human head, so they called the local police. State officials later confirmed that �the bodily parts found belonged to five members of the police force and to one state justice department agent.� The six had been carried off by force Monday night. [The location is in northern Durango, near Parral, Chihuahua.]

Originally Posted by blackeyeddueler
in 2010 I plan on taking the wife & little kids to San Antonio,(sea world,etc..) and had contemplated going across the border for a 1 day trip and I needed some help

is it safe?
do we need passports?
do we need to drive/walk over?
what to do when we get there?

thanks for all the help,I am absolutely an idiot on the subject.


"I am absolutely an idiot on the subject."

Maybe another type of troll?

You sure run a lot of threads that come across as "Fishing Expeditions", Mister.

Safe ?

Yup, that's idiotic,.....

GTC


San Antonio ain't very close to the border... Takes a couple of hours to get there...
More than a few years back,border towns were a blast...Wouldn't do it now though...
Best if ya come here before July or after September, friggin' hot here in the summer.

FWIW you DO need a passport or one of them passport ID cards to go into Mexico. Everything you would probably buy in Mexico you can get at Market Square in San Antonio.

If you have a wild hair to see the Border anyhow, Eagle Pass is a genuine Border town on the American side maybe 150 miles from San Antonio, worth a visit if ya like offbeat rather than touristy places. Piedras Negras across the bridge has been fairly quiet (but I live here, I have a passport, and I ain't been across that bridge in years). You don't really need to cross, you can be just 100 yards from Mexico across the river and still be standing in Texas.

Birdwatcher
"contemplated going across the border for a 1 day trip"

Better to spend the time in SA,

....what?

GTC
Amazing ain't it? This is goin' on a couple hundred miles (if we're lucky) from our house, yet it's taboo to our MSM. They're too busy being shocked and amazed that a mulatta with money cheated on his wife and soccor moms are drowning all the polar bears.
Originally Posted by BrotherBart
San Antonio ain't very close to the border... Takes a couple of hours to get there...
More than a few years back,border towns were a blast...Wouldn't do it now though...


Listen to the man. He knows where of he speaks. I say this as one who loved the old border town years back.

If you just got to go listen to Birdy. I hear Pietras Negras is still ok as is Ruidoso across from Mc Allen. But I ain't going to personally find out. Wouldn't go on a bet.

BCR
Just a couple of nights ago, I had friends visit that live in Del Rio and have for the most part of their adult lives. They said there is no way they would go to Acuna now. I tend to trust their judgment.
Yeah, I sure miss the old days, too.

Was skinny dipping in my girlfriend's pool over in Rio Rico, Az. not all that long ago,....and you could hear full auto fire, and grenade reports rolling in on the wind, from Nogales.

I just turned up the music, and got us another brew.

GTC
Tijuana, mid 60's at 16, was a blast. Been about 35 years since I was there. No plans of returning in the next 35.
Wouldn't take my family without a full army escort, then I would have concerns.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Amazing ain't it? This is goin' on a couple hundred miles (if we're lucky) from our house, yet it's taboo to our MSM. They're too busy being shocked and amazed that a mulatta with money cheated on his wife and soccor moms are drowning all the polar bears.


Beyond amazing,yesterday on the I-News, they had to put up more pictures of the Bleached Child Molester "Pop Star", and some drizzle about a movie star's hair.

........While THIS kinda'nonsense is headlining in our local Sunday paper,and clearly inching it's way Northward.

Beyond amazing, and well into the surreal

GTC

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No letup seen in violence by Sonora cartels
Tourists, fearful of gun battles, are avoiding Nogales

Link: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/metro/322086.php

Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 12.20.2009
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NOGALES, Sonora � A wave of narco-fueled violence this month has served as a harsh reminder that the bloodshed that erupted last year in this border city hasn't slowed down.
On Dec. 8, there were six shootouts that left five dead and three wounded. A threat from gunmen to finish off one of the wounded still inside a city hospital forced the evacuation of 62 employees and seven patients. And police found four large banners with messages from drug cartels hanging from city bridges.
The violence continued the following week with the discovery of a murdered body wrapped in a sheet and duct tape and the discovery of six bodies half-buried in a construction zone.
On Friday, police found a man's body in a plastic container bearing drug-related messages. Farther to the west in Sonora the same day, police found six bullet-ridden, decomposing bodies partially buried on a dirt road near the highway to Puerto Pe�asco. The resort town, also known as Rocky Point, is popular with Arizona vacationers.
The spate of violence prompted Sonoran Gov. Guillermo Padr�s El�as on Dec. 14 to call for 1,000 additional federal agents to restore calm to the state of Sonora. It's unknown when they will arrive, but more state police have already arrived along with a helicopter that flies above the city now.
There were 116 killings through Dec. 15, compared with 125 for all of 2008, according to a tally maintained by the El Imparcial newspaper. The latest official figures available from the Sonoran government show that there were 101 killings registered in Nogales through November � two more than at the same time last year. There were 50 killings in 2007.
The spike in violence has been attributed to the deadly battles between the powerful Beltran Leyva and Chapo Guzman cartels, who are vying for control of the prized Sonora-Arizona corridor.
The killing Thursday of cartel kingpin Arturo Beltran Leyva, the leader of the Beltran Leyva cartel, will certainly have some impact on the ongoing battle, but officials say it's too early to predict what exactly will occur.
Beltran was killed by Mexican navy special forces who raided an upscale apartment complex in Cuernavaca, triggering a two-hour gunbattle in the city just south of Mexico City, according to a navy statement. Three other members of the cartel were killed and another committed suicide, the navy said.
The Mexican government had listed Arturo Beltran Leyva as one its 24 most-wanted drug lords and had offered a $2.1 million reward for his capture.
"The reign of Arturo Beltran Leyva is over," said the acting administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration, Michele Leonhart. "His death has dealt a crippling blow to one of the most violent cartels in the world."
Nogales residents hope the killing will mean an end to the violence, but all the cartel battles of the past year seem to have made them more accustomed to the brutality of drug violence.
"We are a little less afraid than before," said Juan Martinez Rodriguez in Spanish. The 47-year-old is a taxi driver and father of two. "We have realized that the war is between them and not with the citizens. But the killings continue."
Residents should be cautious but not worried, said the assistant police chief in Nogales, Sonora, Adalberto Padilla Molina. The battles are nearly exclusively criminals against criminals or criminals against law enforcement. And municipal, state and federal police are working together to contain the cartels, he said.
"These events alarm the public, but the public should have confidence in their authorities," Padilla said. "We are attacking this head-on. We are not sitting here with our arms crossed."
He concedes, though, that innocent bystanders have been injured in the crossfire. Three people were hurt during the Dec. 8 events, he said. They were released from the hospital shortly after the incident, he said.
The worry about being in the wrong place at the wrong time is a principal reason violence hovers over the city like a black cloud.
Martinez said he worries about getting caught up in the crossfire and getting hit by a stray bullet. Fellow taxi driver Julio Lora Valdez said he and his family avoid being out late even though he knows the shootouts occur at all hours of the day.
Padilla hopes residents never get used to the violence.
"Nobody, in any part of the world, can get ever become accustomed to these type of situations," Padilla said. "We are fighting so the peace and calm returns to the residents of Nogales."
Reasons the same
On the morning of Dec. 8, police found three banners hanging from a city bridge. The "narcomantas," which include messages from cartels to rival cartels, individuals or the government, have become common in Nogales.
"We don't want Beltranes in Nogales, sincerely La Plaza," one of the banners said in Spanish. La Plaza is the Chapo Guzman cartel. The Beltranes refers to the Beltran Leyva cartel.
The combustible situation that caused killings to spike in Nogales, Sonora, in 2008 remains the same: The two powerful cartels are "jockeying for influence" within the Sonora-Arizona corridor, says Anthony Coulson, Drug Enforcement Administration assistant special agent in charge of the Tucson District Office.
"The more influence you have, the more dope you can pass through," Coulson said.
The corridor remains prime real estate for drug-smuggling organizations because the combination of cities and roads on both sides of the border and vast expanses in a harsh desert climate make it difficult for law enforcement to stop the smugglers. Law enforcement in Arizona seized a record 1.6 million pounds of marijuana in 2009, show figures from the Arizona High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area, or HIDTA. Nogales is the epicenter, accounting for 60 percent of all drugs that come into Arizona, he says.
The battling cartels have stopped short of all-out warfare because they know it would bring too much attention to the area and clog up their drug-smuggling routes, Coulson said. But killings are normal, as they settle debts or struggle for territory. Neither group has total control of the corridor, meaning movement within the region creates friction � and sometimes bloodshed.
The other element that creates tension is that Mexican President Felipe Calder�n's campaign to weaken the cartels continues. The government has been putting the army along known drug-smuggling routes and trying to snuff out corruption. These activities disrupt drug smugglers' ability to get their loads across the border, causing panic and uncertainty among drug smugglers, Coulson said.
The DEA called the killing of Beltran this week a major victory for Calder�n's campaign.
Tourism
Store owners sit outside their small shops on the sidewalks of Avenida Obreg�n in downtown Nogales, Sonora. When one of the few shoppers walks by, the merchants break out their best sales pitch.
It's mid-December � what used to be the heart of peak season for shops that sell anything from curios to leather goods � and there's no movement on the streets.
The uptick in violence, on the heels of the economic recession in the U.S., has kept tourists away. Many businesses have closed and others, like the curio where Antonio Quiroz works, are on the brink.
"Four or five years ago, you couldn't walk along here," said Quiroz, pointing to the empty sidewalks. "They don't want to come here because of the violence."
Nogales, Sonora, officials have created a special tourism police and cleaned up and renovated the streets. And shop owners and police say the shootouts occur elsewhere.
But news reports of the cartel battles don't sit well with potential tourists, Quiroz said.
"The American thinks they are going to get hit by a stray bullet," he said.
It doesn't help that the U.S. State Department's travel alert for Mexico still includes a specific mention of Nogales: "Ciudad Juarez, Tijuana and Nogales are among the cities which have experienced public shootouts during daylight hours in shopping centers and other public venues."
Padilla, the assistant police chief, calls that wording unfair. Mexican law enforcement meets regularly with U.S. officials to inform them about their operations to keep people safe, he said.
"It's not fair because they know what we are doing here," Padilla said. "The tourism police works with other law enforcement to protect tourists so they can come to do their shopping, have fun and walk around."
Contact reporter Brady McCombs at 573-4213 or [email protected]. The Associated Press contributed to this article.
That would be the worst form of child abuse there is if you take them to drugland. mad
I was rolling up to the customs agents booth at the Mariposa crossing last Monday night when the shooting commenced that crossfireoops mentioned on page three of this thread. the customs agent at our booth promptly pulled his pistol and ran to the Customs/Immigration building leaving us in the line of fire. his coworkers remained hunkerd down in there respective booths. We had front row seats to the goings on and watched the agents pick up shell casings near the bus that got shot up so I doubt the shots came from Mex. I really enjoy Mexico but it is what it is. I think it is a glimpse into the future of this once great country. Enjoy your trip.

"Padilla, the assistant police chief, calls that wording unfair."

"It's not fair because they know what we are doing here," Padilla said. "The tourism police works with other law enforcement to protect tourists so they can come to do their shopping, have fun and walk around."

This guy needs to get on with the chamber of commerce, What?

GTC


Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Best if ya come here before July or after September, friggin' hot here in the summer.

FWIW you DO need a passport or one of them passport ID cards to go into Mexico. Everything you would probably buy in Mexico you can get at Market Square in San Antonio.

If you have a wild hair to see the Border anyhow, Eagle Pass is a genuine Border town on the American side maybe 150 miles from San Antonio, worth a visit if ya like offbeat rather than touristy places. Piedras Negras across the bridge has been fairly quiet (but I live here, I have a passport, and I ain't been across that bridge in years). You don't really need to cross, you can be just 100 yards from Mexico across the river and still be standing in Texas.

Birdwatcher



Well, it WAS quiet,......

Gunmen fire at Mexican eatery with US mayor inside

Link: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHWLUm1UtoG95H7QyRg_-GiMC4HQD9COMGHO0

By OSCAR VILLALBA (AP) � 16 hours ago

PIEDRAS NEGRAS, Mexico � Gunmen sprayed bullets at a restaurant Tuesday where the mayor of a Texas border town was eating with a Mexican state attorney general and other officials, police said. A woman leaving the building was killed.

Coahuila state Attorney General Jesus Torres and Chad Foster, mayor of Eagle Pass across the border from Piedras Negras, were unharmed, according to police officers at the scene.

Foster was dining with Mexican officials after a ceremony for Jose Manuel Maldonado, the newly elected Piedras Negras mayor who takes office in January.

Torres was rushed out of Piedras Negras and authorities stepped up security at his family's home in the city of Saltillo. Foster left on his own, said police officers, who agreed to discuss the shooting only if granted anonymity out of concern for their safety.

Police scoured the city for the attackers but did not release the names of any suspects or speculate on the motive.

Piedras Negras has seen increasing drug gang violence. In April, gunmen killed the town's police chief, an army colonel who had taken over the local force just three weeks earlier with the aim of purging corruption. Three months later, four other city police officers, including the deputy chief, were kidnapped and remain missing.

Foster, who has close relations with authorities in Piedras Negras and Coahuila state, is a critic of the fence being built by the U.S. government along the border. Coahuila Gov. Humberto Moreira often affectionately refers to Foster as Coahuila's 39th mayor, a reference to the 38 municipalities in the state.

Mexico's drug cartels have staged increasingly bold attacks on Mexican officials and security forces since President Felipe Calderon deployed soldiers across the country to step up the fight against drug trafficking.

In the early hours of Tuesday, assailants gunned down the mother, aunt and siblings of a marine who died during a raid that that killed Arturo Beltran Leyva, the leader of one of Mexico's most powerful cartels.

Also Tuesday, gunmen killed the tourism secretary of Sinaloa, the northern Pacific coast state where Beltran Leyva was buried Sunday.

Sinaloa assistant state prosecutor Rolando Bon Lopez said police were trying to determine if drug gangs were behind the killing of Antonio Ibarra, a father of seven.

Sinaloa is home to some of Mexico's most powerful cartels, including the gang run by Beltran Leyva, who died Dec. 16 during the shootout with marines in the central city of Cuernavaca.

(This version CORRECTS that tourism official was killed Tuesday instead of Monday.)



Link: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gHWLUm1UtoG95H7QyRg_-GiMC4HQD9COMGHO0
Well.... damn frown

How about Ojinaga, a tiny, two-mule town across from equally tiny Presidio way the heck in West Texas?

So safe, I hear they've been shipping Arizona illegals there in droves to send 'em back...

http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=15934
May do Cancun or Cozemel in Feb.....is that a problem also?
Haven't been, but since tourism is the big money-maker in those places, they keep the main tourist areas pretty safe or so I hear.
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