In the various threads I keep seeing reference to rifles as "Sucks". Being an old geezer and not hip to the jargon I am not familiar with this terminoligy.

A "SUCKS" is the loving title given to a Remington model 700 action. I don't know why it's called that - always been since I got here. IIRC the Ruger is called "BITES" and the Whinny was "BLOWS" but I am not sure.

Campfire slang for a Remington, and no it is not derogatory. Just a fun thing started way back when here.

"Sucks" as a term for the Remington Model 700 may have originated with someone who was familiar with (and bothered by) that action's known tendencies (a) to shed bolt handles in Murphy moments afield and (b) to pull the extractor through the rims of tight cases, leaving fired brass in the chamber, unextractable. Then once he'd coined the term, it struck a resounding chord with others who didn't like those tendencies, so it stuck.

Or it may have originated with any of a number of 'smiths who've found the chambers of those rifles reamed at an angle to the axis of the bore, not on-axis.

Around this campfire it started several years ago when AFP was exponding the beauties of the Rem 700 and controled feed. Some of the posts were as long as a Rem 700 also. -- no <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

IIRC it was started when Big Sky posted a thread titled Remingtons SUCK. It caught on and has been around ever since.

LSU pegged it. I believe Big Sky also shipped his "sucks" rifle to Charlie Sisk for some tweaking....................then discovered Utopia!

MtnHtr

UncleRupe:

What they said . . . . . and welcome to the campfire.

BMT

I'm the guilty party that started the whole SUCKS rifle issue. I was having a number of problems with several Remington 700's. Between Charlie Sisk, Celt1, Rick Bin, and one other gunsmith in Utah all my rifles are now behaving just fine. Albeit I'm much lighter in the wallet. Had nothing to do with extraction, mostly it was trigger and or safety problems.

what kinda trigger problems

do you have a one pill trigger, never heard of remingtons trigger problems, most includeing myself like remingtons for there adjustable triggers, but then somehow my rugers seem to get adjsuted to, hmmmmmmm, out of all my rifles the remington trigger has turned out the best. none have had a gunsmith work on them.

just curious about yours

Evan

The only problem is; "keep your finger off the darn thing while releasing the safety."

I too, like Remington triggers. They clean up just fine...

PDS, that's not necessarily true. Some of the older model 700's do indeed go off when the safety is released weather your finger is on the trigger or not. I could get mine to do it about 50% of the time before I replaced the whole mechanism with a Timney.