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Posted By: ltppowell .22's - 10/13/10
Can you shoot a .22 LR in a .22 magnum?
Posted By: Maser Re: .22's - 10/13/10
I have shot .22LRs through my NAA Mini chambered in .22WMR and had no problems.
Posted By: Middlefork_Miner Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Yes but they don't choot worth a chit...
Posted By: ltppowell Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Thanks! This is going to be a very enlightening thread.
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Not advisable
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: .22's - 10/13/10
why would ya want to is more the question?
Posted By: byc Re: .22's - 10/13/10
This is a trick question. You're right.
Posted By: Maser Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
why would ya want to is more the question?


.22LR is cheaper to shoot.
Posted By: WheelchairBandit Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Can you shoot a .22 LR in a .22 magnum?


It's hard on the throat.

Then again, that's what they make interchangeable cylinder revolvers for.

Brian.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: .22's - 10/13/10
When I forgot which cylinder I had in a Colt .22 single action and fired LRs in the magnum cylinder, I got split cases.
Posted By: bcp Re: .22's - 10/13/10
The 22LR isn't just shorter, it is a smaller diameter case.

I used to use 22 WRF as a light load. It is the same diameter as a magnum, but shorter. Hard to find and expensive now. Also, I think the 22 AUTO by Rem and Win is the same diameter as the magnum, but even harder to find than WRF.

Bruce
Posted By: WheelchairBandit Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Originally Posted by bcp

I used to use 22 WRF as a light load. It is the same diameter as a magnum, but shorter. Hard to find and expensive now.

Bruce


CCI makes it now, and it's pretty reasonably priced.

Brian.
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Originally Posted by Maser
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
why would ya want to is more the question?


.22LR is cheaper to shoot.
Dog crap is cheaper than steak but I aint eating the dog crap...
Posted By: ltppowell Re: .22's - 10/13/10
So, I would be amiss to shoot "22s" in my 22mag?
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: .22's - 10/13/10
I wouldn't but I'm just a damn Yankee so what do I know?
Posted By: T LEE Re: .22's - 10/13/10
You can but you won't hit anything and you are tempting the escaping gas gods mightily if you are shooting .22 S, L, LR in something chambered in .22 WMR or .22 WRF.
Posted By: BrotherBart Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Originally Posted by ltppowell
So, I would be amiss to shoot "22s" in my 22mag?
You gonna take Maser's advice?
Posted By: Nail Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
I wouldn't but I'm just a damn Yankee so what do I know?


Can't argue with sound logic like that grin


Nail
Posted By: byc Re: .22's - 10/13/10
Just saw where someone streaked at an Obama rally in Philly. I actually looked at the TV to see if it might have been Maser. Seriously...

Figured with his sig line he's running for some kind of office.

Sorry to ramble OT Pat--

David
Posted By: plainsman456 Re: .22's - 10/13/10
The 22 mag bullet is sized 224,the 22long rifle is a little bit smaller od.
You can try to shoot it,but the cases might split.
Posted By: RufusG Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by ltppowell
So, I would be amiss to shoot "22s" in my 22mag?


Depends what .22 mag you are talking about.

If you're talking about say a Single Six, it will probably work most of the time, but the total lack of accuracy will likely drive you nuts. The cases will split a good bit of the time but will still extract.

Other guns may not be so forgiving.
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Idiotic,...they are 2 separate and distinct rounds.

The fact that one CAN launch 7.62 X 51 / .308 Win outta' some .30-'06 s doesn't make it "Cheaper",.....Just as stupid as the comment re: same, by Diaper Boy.

.45-70 will function all day long in a .45-90, one "improv" that would make a little sense, in an extreme survival type situation,.....

GTC

Posted By: BDM Re: .22's - 10/14/10
I just found out that a .357 will go into the .44 magnum chambers of my Super Blackhawk! Split cases. What could go wrong? Just kiddin, just kiddin! Really though, i don't think it's a good idea. Safety first.
Posted By: mjbgalt Re: .22's - 10/14/10
the 22 mag is .223" in diameter if i recall correctly, and .22 long rifle is like .220" or so. so yes the mag would squeeze down to that size but may lead the bore or be inaccurate. i would be more worried that one of the "not that well supported" .22 LR cartridges would split and send gas into my eye. or that i would bugger up my chamber for the next time i wanna shoot mags.
Posted By: vbshootinrange Re: .22's - 10/14/10
You can use mag. cases with the rims cut off for "inserts" and put a LR round in it, and chamber and fire, but...WHY??????

Virgil B.
Posted By: RickF Re: .22's - 10/14/10
22mag is indeed 224, LR is 222. You may get split cases as indicated, and you will definitely get some powder fouling in the cylinder/chamber ahead of the 22LR case mouth.

Otherwise no worries.
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: .22's - 10/14/10
I'll completely ignore the basic safety violation inherent in "Splitting Cases" and only ask that we all consider the gas BYPASSING the soft .22LR slug, when launched from a .22 WMR chamber,......As the poor non obturated thing rattles it's way into an over sized throat and bore, there's a LOT of it being vaporized off it's sides. In the form of molten droplets these blow by, and once in the bore almost Immediately start to solidify. So, as whatever is left out of our poor .22 LR slug finally does get some traction, cockeyed at best,....it now IRONS the reconsolidated / Solidifying Lead , no longer in vapor form,.....onto the interior surface of your barrel.

Anybody want to talk about the HORRIFIC "Lead Ringing" that takes place as an additional bonus, for those who pursue this fooolishness ?

GTC
Posted By: KSMITH Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by Maser
I have shot .22LRs through my NAA Mini chambered in .22WMR and had no problems.


There you have it... He has much experience.
Posted By: okie Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
I wouldn't but I'm just a damn Yankee so what do I know?


I wouldn't either but "Damnyankee" is one word... grin
Posted By: ColsPaul Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Originally Posted by Maser
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
why would ya want to is more the question?


.22LR is cheaper to shoot.
Dog crap is cheaper than steak but I aint eating the dog crap...


There it is!
Next issue! LOL
Posted By: byc Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Can you shoot a .22 LR in a .22 magnum?


I know you've tried this. What was your experience?
Posted By: selmer Re: .22's - 10/14/10
The .22 LR shoots a heeled bullet, the base is of a smaller diameter than main bearing surface. The .22 WMR shoots a jacketed bullet of .224" diameter just like a light .223 or .22-250 bullet. This is a STUPID idea!!!
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: .22's - 10/14/10
I can tell ya'll that you haven't really lived until you've had to CLEAN a victim of this utterly miscreant and totally vile practice,.....

BDDT
Posted By: goalie Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Whether or not you CAN do something and whether or not you SHOULD do something are very often two similar questions with different answers.....
Posted By: VAnimrod Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by Maser
I have shot .22LRs through my NAA Mini chambered in .22WMR and had no problems.


Good Lord, you continue to redefine yourself as THE stupid sonofabitch...
Posted By: rost495 Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Who won the bet?
Posted By: ltppowell Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Can you shoot a .22 LR in a .22 magnum?


I know you've tried this. What was your experience?


Actually I haven't. The magnum case is larger in diameter than that of a LR. The LR bullet is expanded to be the same size as the case, while the magnum bullet is seated like all others.
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Can you shoot a .22 LR in a .22 magnum?
This is the greatest thread of all time. smirk
Posted By: Big_Papa Re: .22's - 10/14/10
If you want to shoot cheaper get a 22lr and use the right ammo.
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by rost495
Who won the bet?
Not Bob.
Posted By: Boggy Creek Ranger Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Can you shoot a .22 LR in a .22 magnum?


I think we got this earth shaker question pretty well decided.

Answer is can you -- yes
Should you --- no.

BCR

ps just for the edification of the masses did you know that you can shoot lead bullet 38 specials in a 30/30.
Seen it done. Split cases but the bullet came out of the barrel.

Posted By: ltppowell Re: .22's - 10/14/10
You can almost shoot a .308 Win in a 25-06 also. The bullet will almost make it out of the barrel before the action blows up.
Posted By: Boggy Creek Ranger Re: .22's - 10/14/10
grin True Pat. I don't know how that lead 357 dia. bullet got squeezed down to 308 but it did.
I have no desire to do it but the guy I saw do it ran out of 30/30s and wanted to shoot a treed coon. Found a 38 cartridge in his pocke.

It has been so long ago I forget if he killed the coon or not.

BCR
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: .22's - 10/14/10
lmao
Posted By: grouseman Re: .22's - 10/14/10
No. Read what is stamped on the barrel.
Posted By: jnyork Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by grouseman
No. Read what is stamped on the barrel.


If all else fails, read the instructions. wink
Posted By: doubletap Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by jnyork
Originally Posted by grouseman
No. Read what is stamped on the barrel.


If all else fails, read the instructions. wink

Heck, instructions are for women and children. laugh
Posted By: ltppowell Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Some Cartridges that can Possibly be Chambered by Mistake
Possible Consequences

22 WMR
22 BB Cap, 22 CB Cap, 22 Short, 22 Long, 22 Long Rifle
Sidewall rupture

222 Rem Mag
221 Fireball
Headspace rupture

223 Rem
221 Fireball, 222
Headspace rupture

222 Rem Mag
223
Headspace rupture

222
Headspace rupture

221 Fireball
Headspace rupture

22 BR
22 PPC
Sidewall rupture

22-250 Rem
22 PPC
Sidewall rupture

220 Swift
225
Sidewall rupture

6 BR
22 PPC, 6 PPC
Sidewall rupture

243 Win
22 PPC, 6 PPC
Sidewall rupture

22-250, 6 BR
Headspace rupture

6mm Rem
22-250, 6 BR
Headspace rupture

22 PPC, 220 Swift, 6 PPC
Headspace or sidewall rupture

243
Headspace rupture

257 Roberts
6 BR, 22-250, 250 Sav
Headspace rupture

22 PPC, 220 Swift, 6 PPC, 243
Headspace or sidewall rupture

6.5-08
Headspace rupture, insufficient neck clearance

25-06 Rem
22-250, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Roberts
Headspace rupture

6.5-08, 7-08, 300 Sav, 308, 358
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

22 PPC, 220 Swift, 6 PPC, 35 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture, bore obstruction

257 Wby
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06
Headspace or sidewall rupture

6.5-08, 7-30 Waters, 7-08, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 358
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

6.5 Mag
Sidewall rupture, bore obstruction

6.5-08
22-250, 6 BR, 250 Sav
Headspace rupture

6.5x55 Swed
22 PPC, 220 Swift, 6 PPC
Headspace or sidewall rupture

22-250, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 6.5-08
Headspace rupture

300 Sav
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

264 Win Mag
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08
Sidewall or headspace rupture

7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 8x57, 358
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

6.5 Mag
Body wall failure

270 Win
22-250, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08
Headspace rupture

7-08, 7x57, 300 Sav, 308, 358
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

22 PPC, 220 Swift, 6 PPC, 35 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture, bore obstruction

270 Wby
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08
Sidewall or headspace rupture

7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 8x57, 358
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

7mm Wby
Insufficient case neck clearance

6.5 Mag
Body wall failure

7x57mm
22-250, 6 BR, 243, 250 Sav, 6.5-08, 7-08
Headspace rupture

300 Sav
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

22 PPC, 220 Swift, 6 PPC
Headspace or sidewall rupture

7-08 Rem
22-250, 6 BR, 250 Sav
Headspace rupture

284 Win
22 PPC, 6 PPC, 22-250, 220, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250, 257, 6.5-08, 7-08, 7x57
Headspace or sidewall rupture

300 Sav
Headspace or sidewall rupture, bore obstruction

280 Rem
22 PPC, 220 Swift, 6 PPC, 35 Rem
Sidewall rupture, bore obstruction

22-250, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08, 270, 7-08, 7x57
Headspace rupture

300 Sav, 308, 358
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

7mm Rem Mag

7mm Wby
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob,
25-06, 6.5-08, 270, 7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 280
Sidewall or headspace rupture

30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 8x57, 358
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

6.5 Mag
Sidewall rupture

30 Carbine
22 Hornet
Headspace or sidewall rupture

300 Savage
22-250, 250 Sav
Headspace rupture

22 PPC, 6 PPC, 30 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture

30-40 Krag
225, 7-30 Waters, 30-30
Sidewall rupture

30 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture


307 Win
22-250, 225, 7-30 Waters, 30-30
Sidewall rupture

30 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture

308 Win
22 PPC, 6 PPC, 30 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture

22-250, 250 Sav
Headspace rupture

30-06 Sprg
22-250, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Roberts, 6.5-08, 7-08, 7x57, 300 Sav, 308
Headspace rupture

358
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

22 PPC, 6 PPC, 220 Swift, 35 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture, bore obstruction

300 H&H Mag

300 Win Mag

300 Wby
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08,
270, 7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 280, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 30-06
Sidewall or headspace rupture

8x57, 358
Headspace or sidewall rupture, bore obstruction

300 Win Mag

300 Wby
257 Wby, 6.5 Rem Mag, 264 Win Mag, 270 Wby, 7mm Rem Mag,
7mm Wby, 308 Norma Mag (300 Win Mag in 300 Wby)
Body wall failure

300 Wby
338 Mag
Body wall failure, bore obstruction

30-378 Wby
Almost any conventional belted magnum up to 30-Caliber
Headspace or sidewall rupture

338 Mag
Sidewall or headspace rupture, bore obstruction

303 Savage
22 PPC, 6 PPC, 25-35
Headspace or sidewall rupture

303 British
225, 7-30 Waters, 30-30
Sidewall rupture

30 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture

30-40 Krag
Insufficient case neck clearance

8mm Mauser
22-250, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Roberts, 6.5-08, 7-08, 7x57, 300 Sav, 308
Headspace rupture

22 PPC, 220 Swift, 6 PPC, 35 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture, bore obstruction

8mm Rem Mag
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08, 270,
7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 280, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 30-06, 8x57
Headspace or sidewall rupture

358, 35 Whelen
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

Almost any conventional belted magnum up to 30-caliber
Body wall failure

338 Mag
Body wall failure, bore obstruction

338 Win Mag

340 Wby
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08, 270,
7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 280, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 30-06, 8x57
Headspace or sidewall rupture

358 (35 Whelen in 340 Wby)
Headspace rupture, bore obstruction

338 Win Mag
257 Wby, 6.5 Mag, 264 Mag, 270 Wby, 7mm Mag, 7mm Wby
Body wall failure

340 Wby Mag
Almost any conventional belted magnum up to 33-caliber
Body wall failure

356 Win
25-35, 7-30 Waters, 30-30, 35 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture

22-250, 6 BR, 250 Sav
Headspace rupture

358 Win
22-250, 6 BR, 250 Sav
Headspace rupture

22 PPC, 6 PPC, 35 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture

35 Whelen
22-250, 220 Swift, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Roberts, 6.5-08,
7-08, 7x57, 300 Sav, 308, 8x57, 358
Headspace rupture

22 PPC, 6 PPC, 220 Swift, 35 Rem
Headspace or sidewall rupture

350 Rem Mag
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 6.5-08,
7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 358
Headspace or sidewall rupture

375 Win
38-55 WCF
Insufficient case neck clearance

375 H&H Mag
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08, 270, 7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 280, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 30-06, 8x57, 358, 35 Whelen
Headspace or sidewall rupture

378 Wby
Almost any conventional belted magnum up to 375-Caliber
Headspace or sidewall rupture

38-55 WCF
375 Win
Insufficient case neck clearance

416 Rem Mag
22-250, 220 Swift, 6 BR, 243, 6mm, 250 Sav, 257 Rob, 25-06, 6.5-08, 270,
7-30 Waters, 7-08, 7x57, 280, 30-30, 300 Sav, 308, 30-06, 8x57, 35 Whelen
Headspace or sidewall rupture

All conventional belted magnums up to 375-Caliber
Sidewall rupture

416 Rigby
All conventional belted magnums up to 416-Caliber
Sidewall rupture

416 Wby
Almost any conventional belted magnum up to 416-Caliber
Headspace or sidewall rupture

444 Marlin
25-35, 7-30 Waters, 30-30, 32 WS, 375, 38-55 WCF
Headspace or sidewall rupture

Practically every Mauser or 30-06 family cartridge
Headspace rupture

45 Colt
38-40, 44-40
Sidewall rupture

44 Magnum
Sidewall rupture, excessive pressure

458 Win Mag
Practically every Mauser or 30-06 family cartridge
Headspace or sidewall rupture

Almost any conventional belted magnum
Case wall failure

460 Wby
Almost any conventional belted magnum
Headspace or sidewall rupture

470 Nitro Exp
Almost any conventional belted magnum
Headspace or sidewall rupture



Posted By: FVA Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by VAnimrod
Originally Posted by Maser
I have shot .22LRs through my NAA Mini chambered in .22WMR and had no problems.


Good Lord, you continue to redefine yourself as THE stupid sonofabitch...


Maybe he keeps them in his pocket and they swell a bit from.....
Posted By: Bulletbutt Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Can you shoot a .22 LR in a .22 magnum?


This thread is getting badly sidetracked, and I'd like to bring it back on course.
The answer is yes, it'll work; but be sure to shoot for the heart/lung area only, and limit your shots to 300 yards.
Posted By: W7ACT Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Originally Posted by FVA
Originally Posted by VAnimrod
Originally Posted by Maser
I have shot .22LRs through my NAA Mini chambered in .22WMR and had no problems.


Good Lord, you continue to redefine yourself as THE stupid sonofabitch...


Maybe he keeps them in his DIAPER and they swell a bit from.....


There I fixed it for you.
Posted By: FVA Re: .22's - 10/14/10
Some things are hard to recover from. Double so when you record it. How he can show his face here is beyond me.
Posted By: bcp Re: .22's - 10/14/10
SAAMI has a pdf list of dangerous combinations,
http://www.saami.org/specifications...afe_Arms_and_Ammunition_Combinations.pdf

which includes this one:

In Firearms Chambered For......Do Not Use These Cartridges

300 Savage........................338 Winchester Magnum


I wonder how often that happens.

Bruce
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