It's gonna happen some time next summer, so start planning NOW to be part of it!
As time goes on, let us know what dates you won't be able to make it, and we'll build a menu of good dates, and you can then let us know which ones will work best for you. That way, we can set whatever date will be best for the biggest bunch of us.
Now that just about everybody here knows about Quemado Lake and its environs, we'll probably have an even bigger crowd (more good fellowship with more new friends), with a larger variety of guns to drool over, and a number of very special Campfire people who for one reason and another couldn't be part of our glorious 2011 bash.
So don't wait until next year to start thinking about it and planning to be in on it.
The sooner we can nail a date, the firmer I can lock it in.
Of course! That's true for everybody.
But that's not the only consideration that matters.
The sooner that you plan in general to be in on next summer's Quemado Lake shindig if possible, the more likely it is that you'll evaluate other possibilities in the interim with this affair in mind.
Otherwise, you're more likely to commit yourself to other possibilities that arise in the interim, without considering the later possibility of coming to Quemado Lake.
IOW, you might well commit yourself firmly to something that you'll later wish that you hadn't.
I have an open calender as long as family responsibilities don't come up, I am retired ya know. I never expected the boys to need a ride to a tutor at 5.5 years of age!
I just hope that next year at this time, I won't be hearing the same old stuff like "If I'd known about this earlier, I wouldn't've bought tickets to the Goons game."
Yep, a road trip sounds fun, especially visiting with the folks in question.
No way I could do it this summer, too new in the job, and we're short handed to boot. It's a hard day & 1/2 each way for me, even with generous speed limits, but I sure would like to do it next year.
I wanted to go THIS year, but responsibilities (feeding cattle) intervened. I'll try to make it next year, as I have other friends in the vicinity, the country is beautiful, and I believe the camaraderie would be "once in a lifetime" wonderful. Mark
Hell, Mark, everybody who still had cattle were feeding them this year. It looks like central and northern New Mexico are going to grow some feed this year. You'll be welcome in 2012!
Hey fellas - the indicated date would be fine for me, and I don't want to insert a damper, but how about experience?
This summer, due to NF restrictions, we were forced to camp at a NF campground so we could cook and we had no campfire, no privacy and no immediate place to shoot. This due to early summer dryness after a dry winter/spring. The summer rains ordinarily do not begin until after mid-July.
It is now the end of July, we have had decent rain on and off for more than a week or so, and more to come. This place is looking GREEN and the forest is open to camping/fires, etc. or very soon will be. Elk all over the place. Much more pleasant and plenty of places for a deluxe forest conclave that would be near no one.
So - might wish to think about mid-August for the above reasons. Just an observation.
Hey fellas - the indicated date would be fine for me, and I don't want to insert a damper, but how about experience?
This summer, due to NF restrictions, we were forced to camp at a NF campground so we could cook and we had no campfire, no privacy and no immediate place to shoot. This due to early summer dryness after a dry winter/spring. The summer rains ordinarily do not begin until after mid-July.
It is now the end of July, we have had decent rain on and off for more than a week or so, and more to come. This place is looking GREEN and the forest is open to camping/fires, etc. or very soon will be. Elk all over the place. Much more pleasant and plenty of places for a deluxe forest conclave that would be near no one.
So - might wish to think about mid-August for the above reasons. Just an observation.
Mid-August would probably work better for me, as well. One of my contracts has an all-staff and consultants retreat in July, and we just missed it this year. My kids (and grand-kids) often schedule a visit in July or the first week in August. In fact, number two daughter and her children arrived today.
You're the Master of Ceremonies, invite away! If they are genuine, no one could ignore an invite from you.
I can't. I'm entirely irrelevant (and appropriately so) and can't invite all those whom I'd like to.
The Campfire guy whom I'd welcome most warmly � even more enthusiastically than Rick Bin or "dogzapper" � is our "Skalkaho," a truly genuine, super-fine fellow whom I'd especially like for y'all to know. But I doubt that he'd be persuaded to join us, even if he knew what we're planning.
� As a fireman-paramedic, he works a strange schedule that seldom or never gives him a week-end off. � Nothing short of chloroform and kidnapping could shanghai his beautiful Laura into joining us. � She wouldn't allow Rebecca, Brad, Jeff, Jesse, and little "Carrie" to join us. � "Skalkaho" would most likely not come over here without 'em, even if he could.
We could have our own li'l Show-Swap-Sell Session (a "Campfire SSSS").
Bring along whatever you want to brag about, to swap, to sell, to give away, etc � guns, binoculars, scopes, dies, brass, bullets, primers, powders, range-finders, wives, spotting scopes, cameras, actions, bullet moulds � whatever.
You might shed a lot of saliva, and you might find a treasure that you've wanted for years but couldn't find.
At every gun show that I've been to, friends always asked me whether I'd seen anything that I couldn't live without. Standard answer � "Yeah, but they're all too young or married."
'Tween now 'n' then, y'all could chat with one another � "Anybody gonna bring a Mondragon?" "I'll have my Winsavmarton 65 � anybody interested?" "Need dies for my 2x10mm." "[bleep], be sure to bring that Tibetan Schmeisser!"
Sounds good to me... I think I have some bellybutton lint around here somewhere... Oh, and 5000 pcs of 22short brass I've saved, if anyone wants to trade a Kimber 7mm08 for it...
I'll see what I got around, my wife would be happy if I cleaned the closet some.
I need some dies for the .222 Kilbourne - and have some 8mm Lebel brass (primed) and also 7.7 Jap machine gun brass (with clips) to sell/trade. Will keep looking.
My opinion is to shoot for July 28th, that's as long as we can go waiting for the monsoon and not have any hunts going on that will eliminate some attendees. Bear season starts the first of Aug here.
Not saying that is it, if that's a bad date and aug is the only way to go, so be it.
I have some vanilla dies sitting around I no longer have the cartridge... 270, 7mmMag, 338 mag, 7X57 even an extra 3006 I think. Some of the same vanilla brass.
Doc, I ain't swapping mine either. If you bring yours, we'll find a way for her to spend some quality time with mine so that neither will get an overdose of the usual campfire baloney.
We could have our own li'l Show-Swap-Sell Session (a "Campfire SSSS").
Bring along whatever you want to brag about, to swap, to sell, to give away, etc � guns, binoculars, scopes, dies, brass, bullets, primers, powders, range-finders, wives, spotting scopes, cameras, actions, bullet moulds � whatever.
You might shed a lot of saliva, and you might find a treasure that you've wanted for years but couldn't find.
�
A friend was here for a while today � dug out my Mauser actions � my two best ones, long saved-back for ultra-special custom rifles that just never got built, for one reason or another � so now they're out where you can take a look at 'em if you come to the Campfire bash at the lake.
Friend who dug 'em out for me talks like he wants one or the other but hasn't yet given me any hint as to which one he likes better (I think that he's having a hard time figuring that out, himself!)
Both have '06-head bolt faces and extractors.
� Mark X � (earlier model) standard commercial in every respect � with classic custom floor-plate release � blued
� Danzig � small-ring military, standard barrel thread, partially customized (ring and bridge hand-polished [not buffed!] � drilled and tapped for scope � custom trigger [not fitted or tuned] � commercial magazine, floor plate, trigger guard, bolt sleeve, FN safety � original military bolt handle, unaltered, but with custom bolt handle included separately � custom bottom metal blued)
I have a few .22 Long Rifle rifles, too � including an original low-number (single digit) Oregon Kimber.
As long as I can get away or as long as the family wants to make a trip, I am there. With a baby due in Jan, she'll be 7 months during that time. So will be tough but doable to go. Any good fishing up there during that time? How about cabins close by?
I don't know about cabins but the Largo Hotel is right in Quemado, and its good from what I hear. Good little restaurant. Quemado lake has tiger muskies some bigguns too. Gary fished a fair bit when were there last summer.
been rain here off and on all day - temps hangin around 52 - been real windy with a steady rain the last hr or so - wish'n i still had a fireplace on days like this -
Hello Ed. Even winter can be very nice here. Pleased that you are having such nice weather there - and it is so good to know that you are home and safe.
In another thread, I saw that great photo of your lovely wife and her favorite horse - beautifully done. It would be so nice to meet her. Paul
Hi Gary - finally got to the PO yesterday - the scopes arrived. They are very nice, especially at that price. Again, thanks so much for the tip - and Tom, for letting me use your cell phone to order them during our Campfire gathering.
Late July in New Mexico? Plenty of cold beer, I hope. BSB has their annual gopher shoot in Montana in April. What is it with hunters? Ain't happy unless they're sufferin'.:-)
Thanks, Thomas. Beautiful children - you are blessed.
Hope that your whole family has a wonderful Christmas- and the same to all who gathered 'round our fires at Q Lake and in SV this year. Seems as though all of us are very fortunate in our own ways.
Leroy He is growing up fast. Tall and strong too. Merry Christmas to you as well buddy. Was wondering about you just the other day. Glad to see you checking in. Hope the true patron norh is treating you well.
I don't post a lot. But, I spend more time reading on here than I should. I would like to make it. Would two young boys be welcome also? 3 and 4 years old?
You bet Dave. Last summer we had a member there with his wife, daughter and young grandson. I am thinking that my two kids will be making the trip this summer too. My son is 7 and my daughter is 4. Its a great group of guys, and we are very family oriented and friendly.
I can't say my wife and daughter had a blast, they both said it was OK, pretty lake and pretty country. But my grandson had a great time and so did I. I'll definatley bring an ATV next time. The wife would have had a lot more fun with an ATV to ride around on. Looking forward to July! Kelly
You are optimistic, Jon. Many of us "old codgers" have kids in their forties and grand-kids in their teens, although my wife doesn't seem to have aged as fast as me.
Maybe you could bring a few of your girlfriends so that Dr. Ken and I can get tired watching them for you.
There seems to be some shooters here, so I'll post this. Here's a chance to bust out your Deer Rifle and knock the dust off from it and have some fun at the same time. The Saving Private Ryan Scope Shot. A scope will be placed on the Turkey post at 385 meters (427 yards).
Where: Rio Salado Sportsmans Club, 3960 N. Usery Pass Rd. Mesa, Az 85207. This will be held at the High Power Range by the Clubhouse.
When: Sunday Feb 19th, 2012. After the High Power Silhouette match. Approx. noon.
Th Nitty Gritty: The cost is one dollar a shot. At the start you will give the director a dollar and then you will be given a ticket with a number on it, the other half of the ticket will be placed in a can and a drawing will be held to see who is shooting first, second, ect. then you will be called to the line and you will be given 1 minute to shoot. No shooting will be done from the bench position. Either standing, sitting, kneeling or prone. Which ever position you shoot from, no artificial rest will be allowed. If you are a shooter of known ability you will have to shoot offhand. Nobody will be allowed to shoot more than one shot at a time. Half of the pot will go to the shooter who wins and half will go to the Silhouette Division. The scope is a Bushnell Sportview with a 45mm objective. To win you must bust the glass with a bullet. In other words your bullet can hit the post knock the scope off from the post and bust the glass, that doesn't count, the bullet has to break the glass. Keep your Elephant rifles at home with your .50 cal rifles.
Contact: Jim Rose, Sr at 480-641-1500 or Jim Beckley at 480-678-0783.
Les you better make it down! I am planning on smoking up a couple of pork shoulders again like I did for our shindig in Sierra Vista in Dec. I make some decent smoked pulled pork or so I've been told...
Quemade Lake is great. The company around our little group ain't too bad either. Just don't let anyone talk you into shooting an 11" barreled Contender .45-70... I've heard bad stories.
jmgraham1986 said: any of you old codgers have any good looking single daughters aged 22-27 that you're thinking about bringing?
Well Jon, we have some stunning looking grand-daughters in that age bracket, but so far they have shown no interest in "guys" that wear toe shoes and pink shirts. Should we circulate your "toesy" picture from last year?
Quemade Lake is great. The company around our little group ain't too bad either. Just don't let anyone talk you into shooting an 11" barreled Contender .45-70... I've heard bad stories.
Ah heck, can't be much worse than a contender in 30-06, or was it an encore, all I know is that nice was enough.
Its not a matter of if really. Its happening for sure. This one will be the second year in a row. Last year was great, but hopefully this one will be even bigger and better.
OK fellows - believe it or not, the Summer calendar already is becoming cluttered. So, going by the weekend noted earlier several times, can we get settled on this?: Gather 'round the Campfire near Quemado, NM July 13 through 15, 2012.
OK fellows - believe it or not, the Summer calendar already is becoming cluttered. So, going by the weekend noted earlier several times, can we get settled on this?: Gather 'round the Campfire near Quemado, NM July 13 through 15, 2012.
OK fellows - believe it or not, the Summer calendar already is becoming cluttered. So, going by the weekend noted earlier several times, can we get settled on this?: Gather 'round the Campfire near Quemado, NM July 13 through 15, 2012.
Location and planning details to come later.
Please chime in so we can get set.
I am going to try to make it to this.
Promises, promises...how do you feel about riding in the bed of a pickup, bound and gagged? we can make SURE you show up!
OK fellows - believe it or not, the Summer calendar already is becoming cluttered. So, going by the weekend noted earlier several times, can we get settled on this?: Gather 'round the Campfire near Quemado, NM July 13 through 15, 2012.
Location and planning details to come later.
Please chime in so we can get set.
I am going to try to make it to this.
Promises, promises...how do you feel about riding in the bed of a pickup, bound and gagged? we can make SURE you show up!
Ed
According to my workload this summer and who I have to deal with...that might be a welcome relief.
Looking at the map I can make the drive down in one long day.
As promised in the "Cane Syrup" thread, I'll bring along some real cane syrup � a sampler for those who know only honey, maple syrup, and sorghum molasses.
But somebody'll hafta remind me to bring it!
(BTW, it's SIRup, not SEERup � real Southern yum, the basis for good rum, yes, sir!)
OK Ken,I did what you asked and read the sticky.I'll plan on being there as I told you earlier.A word of warning,though:
I notice that transplanted East Texan with all the letters and numbers in his screen handle is planning on being there too.We don't git along worth a damn.
He shoots one of them black rifles with a handle instead of a stock like most God-fearing fellers do.Did you know THAT and invite him anyhow?
Worser than THAT,he is corrupting our youngun's by letting them shoot 'em.And [I know that given my 'fire reputation,it's not needed].... I got PROOF :
It could be that our trails to Quemado will merge and only one of us will show up.
Worser than THAT,he is corrupting our youngun's by letting them shoot 'em.And [I know that given my 'fire reputation,it's not needed].... I got PROOF :
It could be that our trails to Quemado will merge and only one of us will show up.
That's just how it goes here in the West.
Hey!!! I resemble those remarks! I seem to recall some bad habits of yours that are as bad, of not worse than mine!
Ken, this fellow impunging my spotless reputation is selfish beyond belief! He had to be FORCED to allow someone else to help with the cooking! Not only that, he made us all listen to him pick his git-fiddle! AND he forced my nephew to shoot his custom rifle and handloaded ammo without making my nephew pay for anything!
� I notice that transplanted East Texan with all the letters and numbers in his screen handle is planning on being there too. We don't git along worth a damn.
He shoots one of them black rifles with a handle instead of a stock like most God-fearing fellers do. Did you know THAT and invite him anyhow?
Maybe you 'n' I can take turns ploppin' 'im down 'n' sittin' on 'im for the sake of peace and � got anything to stuff in his mouth?
OK Ken,I did what you asked and read the sticky.I'll plan on being there as I told you earlier.A word of warning,though:
I notice that transplanted East Texan with all the letters and numbers in his screen handle is planning on being there too.We don't git along worth a damn.
He shoots one of them black rifles with a handle instead of a stock like most God-fearing fellers do.Did you know THAT and invite him anyhow?
Ya might as well let him attend, I'm planning to bring a black rifle, too.
I'm getting PM and e-mail inquiries about accommodations in Quemado, and have two wee bits of information that should be on this thread for the benefit of those who're wondering �
� Google "largo motel quemado new mexico," and you'll find several on-line sources of information about the Largo.
� I have two good single beds already available and hope to have the clutter (or enough of it!) cleared out of one of the back bed rooms to set-up my double bed.
Those who were here earlier know that there's no boozery in Quemado, so they know to bring their own beer 'n' booze.
edited to add �
Nobody's name is on either of these beds yet � so it's first-come-first-served � except of course for the first one who hollers ahead of arrival.
I have stayed at the Largo Motel and can vouch for the comfort & cleanliness of the rooms. Nothing fancy, just a good place to put your head down for the night.
They sell booze at that cafe up the road from the lake. My hunting partner and I went there (still covered in blood) after skinning out a critter in October!
I'll put it on the work calender!
Folks, if you're thinking about going; DO IT. Its a fun time and a chance to meet some great folks!
IIRC, the peak participation last year was something like twenty-two Campfarts.
(a) The consensus of their enthusiastic comments ("I shall return! � with my family!"), (b) the photos of that gathering and the beautiful setting (Quemado Lake) posted afterward, and (c) the show of interest and intent by other 'fire members since then, all encourage my hope that we'll see the gathering of at least twice as many great guys 'n' gals this year. That'd be at least forty-four! I can't think of one whom I'd wish'd stay home.
What better opportunity can there be to meet and to enjoy in-person fellowship with the cream of the 'fire's finest gentlemen (and some of their outstanding angels) in the total absence of trolls?
We'll just have to live with two great inevitable griefs �
� those who can come but don't � those who'd love to come but can't
I'll be a-givin' some thought to a special prize for whomever comes the farthest. There's already a few probablies.
Well, Ken, I have the event on my calendar and I am trying to make it!
It looks like 5027 miles for me to get from northern Sweden to Albuquerque. If I can re-arrange my schedule so that I can attend, I will do the calculations to Quemado...
It is VERY kid friendly. I will likely have my kids with me this year. My son is 7, and my daughter will be 5 by then. The folks I have met are really great.. even that one fella that wore the pink flannel and the toe shoes.
I am really looking forward to this again this year. Some bait pictures from last summer for folks:
jpb - it certainly is a very long trip, but I sure hope that you can join us. We would do our very best to make it worthwhile for you. Please keep us posted, especially if you need sleeping accomodations, etc.
If you come to the campfire, add about 145 or 180 driving miles from Albuquerque to Q, depending on choice of driving route.
Thomas is correct. If the nature of the gathering were not kid friendly, I doubt that most of us would attend in the first place. Most likely we will do some grand shooting of various sorts, and the shooters are very safety-minded about all around them. Nevertheless the parents/kids need to be savvy about firearms and safe behavior around the shooting - and parents need to extert the proper safety controls. Kids just add to the fun.
jpb - it certainly is a very long trip, but I sure hope that you can join us. We would do our very best to make it worthwhile for you. Please keep us posted, especially if you need sleeping accomodations, etc.
If you come to the campfire, add about 145 or 180 driving miles from Albuquerque to Q, depending on choice of driving route.
Many thanks! I have always been treated well when I was in the US (one New Jersey immigration officer and a would-be robber in Detroit being my only exceptions!).
I have never been to NM, so in addition to meeting many Campfire members, it would quite a new area for me.
Given all the borders I would have to cross, I think I would leave my guns at home in Sweden and hope you fellers could let me use one of your noisemakers! Sure would like to see Greg's cannon in action too -- they never let me play with canons in Canada nor Sweden.
� Given all the borders I would have to cross, I think I would leave my guns at home in Sweden and hope you fellers could let me use one of your noisemakers! � Sure would like to see Greg's cannon in action too -- they never let me play with cannons in Canada nor Sweden.
I'll have my 12-inch-barreled Tauruses � .22, .357, .44 � and my engraved .44 Redhawk there for shootin 'n' droolin' as well as a few rifles available on request (mainly a few .22s, including a Kimber of Oregon with a low one-digit serial number).
Let a Campfriend have my Contender carbine with seven custom 20-inch barrels last year. He may be willing to have it there if he still has it.
Problem is that I won't have any ammo for any of 'em. Several other guys will certainly have a few shootin' arns to share, as well as enough ammo to lend voice to mine.
I hope that you and our Albuquerque buddy can drive down from ALB together.
JPB, there will certainly be plenty of noisemakers to let you use!
As to ammo, I'm sure there will be plenty of that, too. I will bring .22 & .357 for Ken's revolvers, someone else will have to cough up some .44 as I graduated to .45LC a long time ago.
Add in a few long guns, other short guns, and we'll have a great time!
I'm looking forward to the gathering, including the pulled pork!
Ed I just got my butcher here to start bringing in some nice seasnoed pecan wood chunks... I might need to run a shoulder or two in the pecan smoke before Quemado... you know just to make sure it ain't poisonous...
Well, I certainly understand your caution. No telling where those pecan chunks came from!
Please post pics of your efforts!
I have to be at a training conference all week before the gathering, so I won't have room to haul a load of pecan, but will bring a stick or two as an "offering" as I did at Greg's place.
� I'm looking forward to the gathering, including the pulled pork!
That stuff's gotta be good gnawin' 'n' chawin', but since the guys know that I don't have any teeth and can't swallow, they don't let me have any to suck-on and spit out � so I'll hafta depend on somebody like you, jpb, to be there to enjoy it for me!
JPB, there will certainly be plenty of noisemakers to let you use!
As to ammo, I'm sure there will be plenty of that, too. I will bring .22 & .357 for Ken's revolvers, someone else will have to cough up some .44 as I graduated to .45LC a long time ago.
Add in a few long guns, other short guns, and we'll have a great time!
I'm looking forward to the gathering, including the pulled pork!
Ed
I can probably load up some .44 mags, although I'd defer to Ken as to what he wants loaded in them.
My 350 gr load in the .480 Ruger will certainly get your attention, should a .44 not be sufficently vigorous.
I'm getting PM and e-mail inquiries about accommodations in Quemado, and have two wee bits of information that should be on this thread for the benefit of those who're wondering �
� Google "largo motel quemado new mexico," and you'll find several on-line sources of information about the Largo.
� I have two good single beds already available and hope to have the clutter (or enough of it!) cleared out of one of the back bed rooms to set-up my double bed.
Those who were here earlier know that there's no boozery in Quemado, so they know to bring their own beer 'n' booze.
edited to add �
Nobody's name is on either of these beds yet � so it's first-come-first-served � except of course for the first one who hollers ahead of arrival.
I hope to have a forty-foot shipping container (www.codsllc.com) in my yard by then. If you have a cot, mattress, or pad, bring it along and plop it down!
Even if by then I have all the clutter moved out of the garage, guest bed room, and school bus into the shipping container, there'll still be a lot of floor space left over (with my junque on shelves along one wall). And I have several OFF bug-repellent candles for when it ain't raining. Heck, I might even sleep out there myself, especially on rainy summer nights, with the doors open! I do so love the soft murmur of AUDIBLE rain on the roof and the smell of rain in the yard!
And fresh air any time, of course! Maybe I'll dream that it's a hunting camp!
My life has been a health crisis whirlwind of late, but If healthy enough can I still come? Have a hankering to ride my ugly KLR650 down, but I have CCW's for all states en route, and a scabbard for the bike as well. Might stick the 'ol 416 Rigby aboard for the trip for any who think they would like to try her out.
Still open for late coming hopefuls?
I will be travelling on the cheap if I come so probably will HAVE to put a bedroll down in the metal building. Same one I will sleep on en route, probablly cannot do that ride in one fell swoop.
safariman - Still wide open for you and all, so if there is any way you can get on down here in July, do it. Aside from it being a fine occasion on which to meet and get to know you in person, your travel here (especially on the bike) certainly would signal that those illnesses are way in the past. Welcome that !!
Don't worry about a place to lay your bedroll - that will get well covered locally. And, if we know your route (would assume through the Blue to Boise, SLC, Moab, Cortez, Gallup and Q) and where you will need to stop enroute, we maybe can find a friend with a bed for you and a shed for your bike.
If you choose to bring your wife, I know a couple of lovely gals that would enjoy sharing time and putting her up.
My life has been a health crisis whirlwind of late, but If healthy enough can I still come? Have a hankering to ride my ugly KLR650 down, but I have CCW's for all states en route, and a scabbard for the bike as well. Might stick the 'ol 416 Rigby aboard for the trip for any who think they would like to try her out.
Still open for late coming hopefuls?
I will be travelling on the cheap if I come so probably will HAVE to put a bedroll down in the metal building. Same one I will sleep on en route, probablly cannot do that ride in one fell swoop.
That would be pretty cool if yoou can make it. If not longest drive to attend, perhaps you'll get longest drive on a motorcycle
The way I feel right now, sleeping all of the time and pain issues, such a trip is probably a bit of a pipe dream, BUT a guy HAS to have some goals and dreams to keep him going. This will be one of mine. Love the idea of finding other members en route to stop in and see. Kidneys, heart, BP, and spinal chord pain with attendant headaches plus energy levels will all have to be much better, but it could happen, right?
Hope to see ya'll there, such will mean that God has touched me, or that I am in some other way 'touched' (old euphammism for crazy as a loon)
I talked to the wife last night and she Okayed be coming out, not that I had to have it. I will be thinking on what I need to bring so suggestions welcome. ThomasMagnum was talking about pecan wood. I could bring some if it would help. I have plenty of trees to cut but I would need to know how it is wanted. Dry, green, what size chunks? Let me know what is needed as time gets closer. miles
Miles I am good on pecan wood. I am going to be smoking a couple of pork shoulders over some pecan. I am planning bring my smoker and smoking them up there at the camp, but if fire restrictions prevent it I will smoke them here and bring a big tray of pulled pork. I did the same thing for the get together down at Cross's place this winter, but smoked them over reclaimed Whiskey Barrel oak. Two smoked pulled shoulders feeds a whole lot of folks. 17 people barely put a dent in the stuff I took to Sierra Vista. Not to toot my own horn, but it was pretty dang good too.
having watched and tryed to keep up with this thread, i will be driving to moab ut. durango,colo. about that time of july, would like to stop by and meet everyone, im not in a hurry to be anywhere, so would like to stay a couple of days. would that work for you all, will be pulling a small trailer with my 4 wheeler and my shooting junk. will be happy to bring what ever you all think is needed from s. tex. rio7
GREAT NEWS UPDATE!!!! I just ran the idea by my totally hot and beautiful inside and out wifey (you guys and your wives are going to just LOVE her immediately) and she said that if we can work out a trip before or after to the grand canyon she is intersted in making New Mexico part of our summer vacation. We would have my Chevy Avalanche and our 25 foot self contained camping trailer with, motorcycles including my Rokon on the MC rack I added to it last year. Plenty of room to bring lots of toys for ya'll to play with. NOW it seems more likey, and exciting as well. So..... how far away is Quemedo from the Grand Canyon? IS there a lake with trailer type camping and hook ups nearby?
How many want to sign on to try out my hot loaded 416 Rigby with handloads that approximate 416 Weatherby ballistics. Its FUN, I tell ya! (to watch OTHERS shooting it..... )
I don't belive there are RV hook ups at the lake campgrounds itself, but I belive there is a dump station nearby.
The Grand Canyon is probably about six hours from Quemado, and its a easy drive. I don't think there are really any big climbs between the two even. From the Canyon its basically AZ-89 down to the I-40 then across to the AZ-77 down to the U.S.60.... a little simplified but thats the gist of it.
GREAT NEWS UPDATE!!!! I just ran the idea by my totally hot and beautiful inside and out wifey (you guys and your wives are going to just LOVE her immediately) and she said that if we can work out a trip before or after to the grand canyon she is intersted in making New Mexico part of our summer vacation. We would have my Chevy Avalanche and our 25 foot self contained camping trailer with, motorcycles including my Rokon on the MC rack I added to it last year. Plenty of room to bring lots of toys for ya'll to play with. NOW it seems more likey, and exciting as well. So..... how far away is Quemedo from the Grand Canyon? IS there a lake with trailer type camping and hook ups nearby?
How many want to sign on to try out my hot loaded 416 Rigby with handloads that approximate 416 Weatherby ballistics. Its FUN, I tell ya! (to watch OTHERS shooting it..... )
Mark,
I know you have had your share of challenges lately, but you sure a lucky guy! I do mean that sincerely -- and I know from your posts that you realize it too.
Furthermore, I have no doubt that your lovely wife will likely have all the 'Campfire curmudgeons wrapped around her little finger in short order.
I am going to try to make the trip from Sweden -- it seems like every time I check this thread another person I would like to meet in person (like you and your wife) may be there too.
I'd also like to taste both great barbecue and "real chili" and with this crowd attending, Quemado should be a good place to try both. However, I hope this topic does not lead to any fisticuffs should both DARBY and Isaac attend and Isaac makes his famous "white chicken chili".
safariman - 318 miles and about 5.5 hours to the Grand Canyon from Quemado - add about 20 minutes from Quemado Lake.
There are no "full hook up" RV places within 35 miles of the lake. But, we probably can ID some comfortable options for you and your wife. Not to worry.
It is good that so many more may be with us this year. If folks keep signing up, especially with RVs, last year's space right AT the lake may get cozy - remains to be seen. But, the nearby options are excellent - this is in the Apache National Forest.
Darby comes out of left field with the zinger! They are green sir! and i'm going to wear them again this year out of spite! I think i'll go run a 10K the day before in them so i have some ammo for you guys!
How many want to sign on to try out my hot loaded 416 Rigby with handloads that approximate 416 Weatherby ballistics. Its FUN, I tell ya! (to watch OTHERS shooting it..... )
SIGN ME UP! Id love to try it. Plus, i think a rifle would be ok. I once seen a accident with a contender in 45-70 and some hot loads that would make you cringe.
Next, to find an 'unclimbable' hill according to the 4 wheeler guys so that all of us can enjoy a relaxing ride up to the top while seated comfortably and smiling all the while atop my Rokon. Anyone here up for that as well? MAybe after the shooting is done, we can take turns climbing straight up the burm or some such. I am getting excited about the possibilities, I sure hope I get to come, toys with
If wifey and thusly the camping trailer come, ya'll will also get to meet Goober the bird brain dog and our coyote mix or 'coydog' as some call them, Gracie. They both love pulled pork, too!
� How many want to sign on to try out my hot loaded 416 Rigby with handloads that approximate 416 Weatherby ballistics. Its FUN, I tell ya! (to watch OTHERS shooting it..... )
Howell's First Law of Physics � The load is always lighter when the other fellow totes it.
There is no formal range. We will be shooting on public land. Last year we had a pretty nice set up with three different areas to shoot. 1. short range with targets stapled to a pallet about 20-25yards
2. 100+/- yards to a gong hung in a tree. (couldn't find a pic)
3. There was a target placed at roughly 300yards on the side of a rock bluff where the rock face meets the scree.
Mudhen & Dennisinaz I hope you don't mind I borrowed your photos from the pic thread from last years fun.
RIO7 - Tom is playing it down - tis a very formal range deal. We all drive up a two track between some juniper/pinyon/ponderosa covered ridges, with nice big rock faces looming here and there - gather the pickups in a clearing and unload all sorts of interesting shooting goodies to share - custom loads and all. Some guys set up those three shooting lanes (we leave that 300 yard item up on the rock face for the young ones), others deal with shooting benches and tripods, and others tinker with the firearms and scopes.
With the possibility of more guys coming this year, we may need a shooting traffic manager if not a range-master. Well ---- Naaah ! Last year everone was way savvy and safe, and we had no miscues.
Then the fun starts. Darby and Border Doc will show off their shooting with some beautiful revolvers (Kent will show his excellence with those as well) and Tom will get our attention with his TC 10" in 45/70 - Ben likes that one and will, no doubt, shoot it again. And, that does not even begin to cover the handguns.
The gong at 100 yards seemed a little big, so maybe a bit farther out - or maybe a smaller disc this year - or both. Must say it is unique and big fun with handguns, carbines and all sorts of rifles going in what seems like all directions. Some very good shooting done.
Thanks for offering to bring stuff. Hard to tell what will be needed but target frames, another shooting bench or maybe a bit smaller gong on two chains could be good. Just watch this thread - it will shape up as we go and you will know how to contribute to the "formality".
PW, I'll bring that Contender but certainly with milder loads than those awful leverevolution loads I had.... They were just too vicious in that gun. I will bring the 7-30 Waters set-up as well like I did in S.V., that is just so fun with those Nosler Ballistic Tips.
I hope you will bring your Contender as well. Have you been doing much with it?
I'll climb that 300 yard bluff with my Rokon, then base jump it with a pillowcase for a parachute..... Did I mention that I am close kin to Jeff Corliss?
I recall one guy I saw ~20 years ago, who had a .45-70 Contender and some funky handmade grips at the range. He insisted the recoil wasn't that bad, but oddly he was trying to sell it at the next gun show...
I keep threatening to buy a #1 in .450 Nitro. They reportedly weigh 8 lbs or so.
Hi Tom - that initial 7mm TCU load used in SV was unrefined and a bit wild - no time to test and compare before we got there, and I am still a novice in shooting those things offhand. But, I love them and have been working to refine it. Have since bought a nice carbine barrel or so - looking forward to trying that style.
safariman - just get yourself, wife and thr Rokon down here safe and sound- we'll try to hold you back from the really dangerous stuff - like Darby's chile.
tex n cal - Oops sure knows folks want him at the gathering, and some of us will be trying to be sure he is.
Be fun if you Arizona guys could get Oops to attend
Piece of cake if somebody TRUSTWORTHY will go "security sit" his place for three or four days, so that he can leave it for a while. (Can't leave it unattended for that long if he expects to find it all there when he gets back!)
PW, I'll bring that Contender but certainly with milder loads than those awful leverevolution loads I had.... They were just too vicious in that gun. �
Sho' wish that Lee Jurras'd come and bring some of his "Howdah" pistols and ammo. They make the .45-70 seem down-right mild. You can't hold onto one of 'em with just one hand. Takes two, preferably with gloves. But fun to shoot!
PW, I'll bring that Contender but certainly with milder loads than those awful leverevolution loads I had.... They were just too vicious in that gun. �
Sho' wish that Lee Jurras'd come and bring some of his "Howdah" pistols and ammo. They make the .45-70 seem down-right mild. You can't hold onto one of 'em with just one hand. Takes two, preferably with gloves. But fun to shoot!
You and me both my friend. I've long admired Mr. Jurras and have wanted to see one of his Howdah behemoths first hand.
Paul how do like that scope from you got from camerland?
Wish I had a comparable video showing my former friend Gerry (a) sneering at us for using two hands to shoot the Howdah pistols, (b) then shooting one with his right hand (with his left hand in his pants pocket), (c) then the pistol rolling out of his hand, right over his head, and going end-over-end into a snow bank behind him.
The look on Lee's face would've camerable, too.
Fortunately, the howdah pistol didn't pick-up any scratches or gouges from its tumble among the rocks under the snow.
just wanted to know what to bring for guns, old guns, modern guns, hand guns, now i think i have an idea, what to bring, but space is limited, as im going from quemado, to a p.dog shoot up north of there. as for targets can bring paper targets, card board bad guy targets, as for food dont count on me, im the worst cook in the world, if it dont come out of a can im up the creek,but am more than willing to chip in for anything needed to drink or eat.rio7
This year I'm just gonna get a leopard print thong and go bare foot the entire trip! ya pricks!
Jon
Hey I at least used the picture of you giving the finger.... and I didn't even mention your pink flannel. Seriously though Jon looking forward to hanging out and shooting with you again.
The shriveled, decrepit carcass in the wheel chair is sure to be horribly traumatic enough, for life-weary adults alone � for the kids, even worse. No one in the rest of the crowd should make a conscious effort to present an even more horrible spectacle.
Wheelchair, eh? Hmmm.... I think we should make some measured marks on the ground, or maybe set a tape measure alongside one of your WC tires, and then take bets on how far back the Rigby pushes you when you fire it with no brakes set! You game fer that? How about if we have to split the pot with you 50/50?
Or, we could measure my blood pressure and guess how high it goes when somebody DROPS my Karnis Custom Carved 416 Rigby on the ground!!
I look forward to hugs from Mrs CCCC and Mrs Border Doc � and hope that there'll be a few other sweet squeezables, too. Got unlimited capacity for that flavor of pleasure.
If you were thinking of gracing this gathering with your presence, I'm sure we would find someone who could pick you up at the appropriate airport and bring you to this quiet, beautiful part of the world!
If you were thinking of gracing this gathering with your presence, I'm sure we would find someone who could pick you up at the appropriate airport and bring you to this quiet, beautiful part of the world!
Ed
I was thinking of driving from Alabama, stop overnight here and there. Well, myself and my daughter actually....
Lynn, if ya'll are coming from southern Alabama along I-10, you're welcome to meet me in Houston & ride along - or just stay in touch in case you need assistance.
For northern AL, Interstate 40 through Albuquerque will make more sense for you.
We would be coming from the southern part, Fort Rucker, Alabama actually. So, 1-10 is definitely the way we would be going. I wouldn't mind having someone out there on the road I could stay in touch with along the way. I have done the Alabama - Houston - San Antonio drive several times, but I haven't really driven any further west after that.
I appreciate the offer, and will take you up on it if we can work it out. I will PM you my number so you will have it, and we can talk about more if you are okay with that.
Thank you for the offer, as always, your a Sweetie.
no problem. I've driven I-10 west of San Antonio more than a few times and there is a lot of empty space out there. Good deer hunting, but empty otherwise
Miss Lynn, Sherri and I sure hope you can make it. Sherri is hoping there are more than 2 or 3 ladies to speak and connect with during the event. I am quite sure that the two of you will hit it off.
Childofthesky has had some rough times of late, losing her mother. A road trip like this one would be great medicne for her, methinks. Lets all PM her with this link and put a push on. I am kinda broke but would help a little if I can to get some of the ladies here of meager means. childofthesky is strapped, and would likely need our help to get to get to the campfire. Maybe I can at least co-ordinate the efforts to help her or maybe others.
The only things that I can add are to suggest (a) that the ladies who intend to be with us PM their pleas to childofthesky and (b) that members along the way offer her over-night accommodations � coming and going if she plans to drive.
Of course she's welcome to bunk here, so motel expenses won't be a factor at all.
I'm glad that none of the trolls will invade us, but I grieve for the good buddies who can't come.
Miss Lynn, Sherri and I sure hope you can make it. Sherri is hoping there are more than 2 or 3 ladies to speak and connect with during the event. I am quite sure that the two of you will hit it off.
From what I gather from your posts about your Wife, I get the feeling we will get along real well. My 24 year old daughter Quinn will be accompanying me on the trip. She's a younger version of me, only WAY prettier, and in some ways, way smarter than I am.
Looking forward to meeting you and your Wife, and getting to know you both.
By that time, my Special Angel Chant�e (Honorary Daughter) will be freshly 27 (birthday the Fourth). Maybe we can get her to bring along her Vile N and drag the horse hair over the cat gut for us. The guys will enjoy the sight of her, too.
Miss Lynn, Sherri and I sure hope you can make it. Sherri is hoping there are more than 2 or 3 ladies to speak and connect with during the event. I am quite sure that the two of you will hit it off.
From what I gather from your posts about your Wife, I get the feeling we will get along real well. My 24 year old daughter Quinn will be accompanying me on the trip. She's a younger version of me, only WAY prettier, and in some ways, way smarter than I am.
Looking forward to meeting you and your Wife, and getting to know you both.
Miss Lynn, Sherri and I sure hope you can make it. Sherri is hoping there are more than 2 or 3 ladies to speak and connect with during the event. I am quite sure that the two of you will hit it off.
From what I gather from your posts about your Wife, I get the feeling we will get along real well. My 24 year old daughter Quinn will be accompanying me on the trip. She's a younger version of me, only WAY prettier, and in some ways, way smarter than I am.
Looking forward to meeting you and your Wife, and getting to know you both.
NOW we're talking!
I'm thinking, your thinking, this is a good idea ?
The best idea is for more good folks to attend the Quemado Gathering II.
The 'Fire Shindigs that I have attended are fun for all family members, although it is likely more enjoyable if said participants know (at least a little bit about) and appreciate the outdoors, photography, conservation, shooting and/or fishing, camping and starry nights. You will be invited to shoot some awesome firearms, so bring what you have, including eye and ear protection and a good attitude.
Hospitality and friendship are routinely noted.
Hard to find better entertainment for the money.
Help (transportation, car-pool, "scholarships", etc.) is available for those who need it, but they may need to speak up. . . . . nobody does a Dunn & Bradstreet on the campers.
However, everybody is expected to contribute in some way, such as respectful conversations, polite behavior, helping out with chores, cooking specialties, hospitality for the less-mobile campers, camp set-up or break-down, and whatever. Sort of like at home. There is a big difference in a good camp and the other kinds, so help where you can and ask for it if you need somethin'.
Lovely ladies are always welcome in camp, and some of the better company in past gatherings included wives and family.
Jon "Toe-shoes" Graham is just trying to make sure that ELIGIBLE young ladies learn how he really is a good and handsome guy who can shoot better than the rest of us old geezers, not just a fellow who has, . .well,. . . uh. . .chosen his "costume" from an "interesting" catalog.
Agree 100% with everything Border Doc has said above. Its a great group, and when we get together it is always a good time. You can't go wrong with a recipe like good people, good food, good settings, nice guns, good shooting, etc.
...and yes Jonny "toe shoes" is a top notch guy all ribbing aside.
Miss Lynn - the weekend is July 13 -15, and sure hope you and your daughter can make it.
No worry about pleasant accomodations for any Campfire ladies that are not brining an RV, etc. - with good advance notice we will have you covered comfortably.
So is there anybody here that can help me choose a new fishing rod and reel to buy ???? Seriously, I need a new fishing rod.
My daughter Quinn wants to shoot, she has never been shooting and wants to try her hand at it. I'm thinking there might be someone there that might like to offer a helping hand in this area.
I am an NRA certified beginners marksmanship instructor. I might not be the best SHOT at the gathering, but I am really, really good at taking beginners and getting them to proficienscy quickly and safely, with lots of fun as a part of the whole equation.
As to a fishing set up, go to Bass Pro Shops web site and get a Shakespere Ugly Stick combo set up in a take down, medium action, 6'6" length then wrap the spool full of CLEAR, non colored 6lb test flourocarbon line and we will take care of bait, lures and terminal tackle when you get there. Sherri and I have lots of that sort of gear. She is an avid fisherperson and handgun shootist.
I assure you that there will be an abundance of eager tutors to introduce your daughter to the pleasures of shooting just about anything that she would like to try. AZCoues and KRP can give you expert advice with respect for angling for the trout in Quemado Lake. Helpful expertise will not be in short supply. Mark and Sherri will certainly be the icing on the cake. I will be present (hopefully with my lovely wife) to cheer you on.
Miss Lynn, Sherri and I sure hope you can make it. Sherri is hoping there are more than 2 or 3 ladies to speak and connect with during the event. I am quite sure that the two of you will hit it off.
From what I gather from your posts about your Wife, I get the feeling we will get along real well. My 24 year old daughter Quinn will be accompanying me on the trip. She's a younger version of me, only WAY prettier, and in some ways, way smarter than I am.
Looking forward to meeting you and your Wife, and getting to know you both.
NOW we're talking!
I'm thinking, your thinking, this is a good idea ?
Well, if you want to make a good first impression, I would suggest seeing a fashion consultant at LL Bean!
This 'gathering' is sounding like more fun all the time! I will keep the fires going for the wifey and suggest she put in her time off request right away.
Miss Lynn, if perhaps you don't get to purchase a new rod/reel setup before you get here, don't fret. We will get you properly equipped so safariman can get you into the trout - or the Muskies.
I PM'ed achildofthesky/Patty a couple of days ago and just got a reply back. She is seriously considering coming out to this event. I encouraged her and offered to allow her to use the shower in our 25ft camper, which I will offer up to the other ladies in attendance who might be camping out with us. The camper is equipped with both indoor AND an outdoor shower heads, so the NICE ladies might even get to use the INSIDE shower!
Looking more and more like a pretty nice event, with good participation.
After receiving several unexpected and very pleasant PM's from Safariman /Mark and Ken, I am sold and plan on coming barring hell, high water or just falling apart to this years Quemado Campfire shindig. It will be a pleasure to put faces with handles/names and meet new folks. Meeting new people and friends is always a pleasure and I am certain this will be a great opportunity for both.
I will bring as big a passel of low and midrange loads for my 30-30's, 45-70 and 44 Mag leverguns as I can afford (ashamed to say that events of the past several years sees me living without a 44 mag revolver, embarrassing I know, but a body needs to eat and keep shelter) and a 22 bolt action and a goodly supply of 22 for those needing some for the festivities.
It would be helpful to know what was in short supply last year (from spices to TP to trashbags, whatever)and I will try mightily to bring extras so folks don't run out. Also, I will bring some Pennsylvania venison for munchies for any and all as it lasts. Do you reckon I should bring a chili kit or 2 (1 kit feeds about 8 or so decent portions and if I say so it is a very decent recipe, not champion stuff for the conneseur but Quite nice and easy to assemble). If it is over kill let me know as I hate food to waste and I am a light eater. I don't have the means to cook a large pot afield or store after after lunch/dinner.
If there is libation universally enjoyed for apres hours that ran short last year, please let me know I'd be happy to bring a case or 2 for the coolers. Not much of a beer drinker myself outside of Oktoberfest style and Guiness I am at a loss for what is the going tastes of yinz'all, and am generally a single malt or Evan williams and OJ (please don't hate me for that concoction, give it a try, I'd suggest a no less than 4-1 ratio oj to whitsey) but I am into it. Looking forward to good conversation and tales of derring do and life's travels from all.
As I will be power driving to the event from NW AArghkansas, are their provision palaces or gas stations in the general area or better I drag in couple jerry cans of gas and all provisions prior to turning off I-40 for those that may need it for toys and gennies? Tool kit, first aid and cleaning supplies will be brought there as well.
I'd really like to sincerely thank all that took the time to invite me and appreciate the chance to meet yinz'all.
Be safe, enjoy the weekend and may the creator see fit to keep all safe an comfortable.
Patty, I am looking forward to meeting you in July, as are others, and sure hope it all works out. For now, I suggest focus on the best way to get yourself here in good shape. There are enough folks much closer to the scene to deal with most necessities, but a small nicety here and there is good.
As time for the gathering draws nigh, we will be getting rather organized and any "needs" will pop up here - for all to consider and help where possible. Just stay well, and stay tuned.
It might be good to count heads and plan the accommodations. Whatever beds are currently available please don't hold one for me, save for ladies or families. I've no problem reserving a motel room...or throwing an air mattress in the bed of the truck, either, but I will eventually want a shower to maintain a veneer of civility
It might be good to count heads and plan the accommodations. Whatever beds are currently available please don't hold one for me, save for ladies or families. I've no problem reserving a motel room...or throwing an air mattress in the bed of the truck, either, but I will eventually want a shower to maintain a veneer of civility
I'm looking forward to this!
Patty, I'm also glad to hear you're going to make it!
tex_n_cal, I was thinking of renting a room at the Largo Motel for folks to use for showers, or if they can't stand the snoring...
Ya'll have me digging through through my overloaded powder, primer and piles of brass and other stuff to peddle locally to get there. Sounding better each day.
Thank you kindly for something to look forward to and to the warm invite. I look forward to putting faces with names/handles and having some fun for a long over due change. I may not have attained the exalted turd like status as of many but am house trained and pretty civilized and will bring as much ammo and vittles and misc. stuff as I can dig out of the larder and afford to even the card and share with any that run short of this and that.
Should be freebies to whoever on some oddball brass (first come, first to be served) and I will bring at least 1 chili kit for your judgement along should it be deemed necessary more chili is needed with a few packages of Pennsylvania Venison for appetizers for any interested to snarble on. Of course my shootin irons are available for any interested in Leverguns.
I ain't rich, but ain't cheap either. Again to all, thanks for the warm invite, sphit has been pretty crappy in the past few long whiles and I reckon this may help sort the mind, spirit and best of all make a friend or better yet many more than just a few. Mebbe the creative spirit saw a need for me to get my self up and out or what ever, but I am looking forward to it.
Will try to remember a few memorable pix from the past for story tellin.... Being Irish I do blather on sometimes (ok, more than a little) about this and that, especially apres shooting times with a dram or more onboard.
Be safe all and heres hoping the balance of the weekend to all and those held dear and close for the weekend if a fine one indeed.
Keith sounds good to me buddy. Careful though to all the folks that haven't been before... the folks you'll meet can be habit forming. Its truly a great group of people, and its a pleasure to meet up everytime we do. Looking forward to meeting a lot of new faces this time around too.
eh76 - the motel Tom mentions in Quemado is approximately 17 or 18 miles from the lake where we gathered last year - about 14 miles south on NM32 and 3 or 4 miles roughly east on the road in to the lake. All paved - about 20 minute drive.
OK, wifey is asking for her vacation days, is it still set for July 14-15?
Also, in looking on the 'net, there are several campgounds at Quemedo Lake, we need to know which one's you guys will be using as the outdoor activities base so that we can reserve and or set up there and be in the middle of everything as wel as make our camp trailer avaialble for them that need it for indoor toilet, shower etc.
Please reply to this or via PM as soon as possible so that Sherri gets the right days off and we reserve the right spot.
Outside of health problems, we are COMING! WooHOO!! Motorcycles, Rokon, handguns and the mule kickin Rigby
Would love to have an ORV legal REALLY steep hill close by for folks to try the Rokon with. It is a slow, but amazingly capable climber and a HOOT to ride and goof off with.
PS if it is the weekend prior to that, 8[9 folks could use thier paid vacation day of July 4th for part of thier travelling days, but if everyone has 14/15 dialed in, we will make that work.
I too have lots of questions that I will be asking as time goes on. Like-will we have campfires and if so, will wood be available or do we all need to bring a little? I will ask others later. miles
Yes, the weekend dates are July 13 - 15, and no reason some can't be there longer if they choose.
If there are no forest restrictions on burning, due to dry conditions as last year, we certainly will have a campfire going most of the time, and wood is plentiful nearby. If we have "no burn" restrictions again due to lateness of rain, we have the option of choosing another nearby location for the camp - if that is most favorable to the most folks. TBD later when we know the conditions.
The location we used for the "camp" last summer was chosen because it was very close to the lake and ramp, and to two FS privies, and because we expected few other campers there that might be bothered by our aged antics. It is not an actual campground (tables, etc.) so no reservation is required. It's just that some of us have to get there early enough to stake out our area - easily done last year. We have to drive about three miles or so from there to the shooting ground used last year.
There are actual campgrounds nearby as well and, as normal, they are inhabited by whomever shows up - and some of those may not be much like our style. There is at least one very nice "no reservation" campground with privy a few miles from the lake, and a good thing about that one is that shooting can be done very close by - just out of camp - and rarely is it a busy place.
Then finally, if there are no fire restrictions and if we choose, there is the whole darn national forest right there with unending good places to camp and shoot - and the forest is your privy.
It will all turn out OK, just need to get closer and see the situation.
Got it. I will not worry about reserving anything, and when time is close decide where to put the camp trailer let you guys help me figure it out then. Thanks for confirming the dates. If it looks like a set apart "reserved" site might be needed or beneficial I suppose one or more of you locals could set up a tent or something at the site where our camp trailer should go. No need for a privvy nearbuy if our trailer is there, and I GUARANTEE that our trailer toilet will smell better than a USFS outhouse! Much cleaner and much more female freidly, as well. Wifey will make SURE of that one!
Should it be considered a sickness that I have started loading ammo up for this trip I have put together a mess of .223AI, 7-30 Waters, .45 Colt, .22 Hornet, .356 GNR,... with more to come!!
Should it be considered a sickness that I have started loading ammo up for this trip I have put together a mess of .223AI, 7-30 Waters, .45 Colt, .22 Hornet, .356 GNR,... with more to come!!
Have you assembled any loads for that .444 bolt gun yet?
I went out with intent of fireforming to make some brass a couple of weeks ago. I went with a 13gr of blue dot, TP wad, and then I tried using some tumbling media filled to the base of the neck as the inert filler. All it did was stretch the shoulder out... it came no where near going clyindrical like it needs to. I think the charge of blue dot was a tad light, and I think the tumbling media blew out too easily and didn't allow it to bump out like it should... I should have just gone and used the cream of wheat like Ken advised, but I didn't chance to grab any and I know media has worked in a pinch.
I can assure you though the .444 Howell will bark in Quemado and some animal will fall to it this year... even if its just a yote.
Cool! I am working up loads for a .458WM that run all the way from full-house factory 510gr loads down to heavy bullet 45LC levels, i.e., 350gr LRNFP @ 850fps.
If the hogs ever show back up in this part of the world again I'll whack one (or two ) with it.
Anybody want to buy a limited edition Marlin .45-70?
Failure to blow the taper out shows that 13 grains of Blue Dot isn't enough to do the job all the way. Try 14 grains with only one case, then a tad more with only one case if that's not enough.
When you've found the charge that forms the case right but doesn't imprint it with tool marks from the chamber, go ahead with the rest of your bunch of cases.
I don't assume that Cream of Wheat or Instant Ralston would for any reason be superior to tumbler medium. (The medium would be more abrasive � a way to flush fouling out, maybe?)
Anybody want to buy a limited edition Marlin .45-70?
Hmmm? Could make a good companion to that Contender in .45-70 I have.
Ken, my thinking was that since the corn cob media was more coarse it wasn't filling in dense enough to let the pressure build really. I will do it exactly as you say next time.
Got it. I will not worry about reserving anything, and when time is close decide where to put the camp trailer let you guys help me figure it out then. Thanks for confirming the dates. If it looks like a set apart "reserved" site might be needed or beneficial I suppose one or more of you locals could set up a tent or something at the site where our camp trailer should go. No need for a privvy nearbuy if our trailer is there, and I GUARANTEE that our trailer toilet will smell better than a USFS outhouse! Much cleaner and much more female freidly, as well. Wifey will make SURE of that one!
If you want to come earlier or stay later than the week-end, there's still plenty of trailer space between the house and the forty-foot container.
And there's an AC hook-up out there. Sorry, no water or waste hook-up.
The gals usually like tubs better than showers (me too!), so mine is always available regardless of where you park the trailer.
I have no testosterone left, and I've never hankered to have a gal dust my pubis with her eye lashes, so I'm as harmless as a cigar-store Indian. Just like to be nice to 'em when I can (but don't hafta hear 'em nag and whine). They can be nice to have around, now 'n' then, especially if they're somebody else's responsibility.
I am getting more and more excited about this trip. We might show up early and camp/fish at the lake for a day or three. I have never even SEEN a Muskie, always wanted to fish for them. Time to buy some Muskie leaders and various Muskie Spoons, eh? Will have to figure out how to rig a top side carrier for a small boat so that we can also carry one of the Motorcycles in the bed of the rig. Our trailer rack only holds two, and I want to bring all three. DR200, KLR650 and the ROKON.
Mark they have rental boats with electric motors at the lake. I don't remember how much they were, but it wasn't very much I don't think. They have tiger muskies in the lake and I think they have a slot size for keepers. Gary/azcoues fished for them, and I had planned to but never ended up doing it
At first the lake was troubled with carp as Ken said, then they introduced and cross bred Walleyed Pike to try to control the carp. They soon nicknamed the cross bred fish CoWalls. It worked fairly well, but the CoWalls were not agressive enough so the CoWalls were cross bred with Muskies which led to the fish called the CoWallSkis. The only problem with the CoWallSkis were agressive enough it was they just had to be tought how to swim......Apologies Ken, couldn't help myself.
That yarn comes from a burlesque letter (presented in Mad Comics fashion as "official") purportedly from Michigan F&G.
The story was that F&G fisheries wanted to improve the sporting qualities of the Coho salmon by crossing it with the wall-eyed pike.
But the Co-Wal cross didn't exhibit enough fighting spirit, so they crossed the Co-Wal with the muskellunge � and had to teach the Co-Wal-Ski how to swim.
Interestingly enough, the "kill" program did not work completely and there are still some bright colored koi in the lake even with all the hungry introduced Tiger Muskies. Those are a hybrid, and the idea seemed to be that they would eat all of the koi and eventually would die off and leave the lake for the trout that always have been there.
Right now, the rainbows are hungry and some big ones have been brought in while fishing from shore - the other day a big female just kept spilling eggs all the way up the bank. If memory is correct, this lake does not very well support birth and growth of the rainbows - I think a lack of gravel on the bottom is the issue. So, we have considerable stocking. I think the Muskies have to be 40" to be kept - one each day, maybe.
I surely hope the fishing is good here for you guys in July.
last yr guys were catchin 24 inches on a orange/yellow spinner baits tossed from shore. bring waders as the n/e end of lake was shallow enough to wade - i was out up past my knees wearing shorts wading in my socks in the mud bottom.
bring a heavy enough rod/real to make long casts -
We are up here in N Idaho visiting relatives, and my step dad gave me two heavy trolling poles and one trolling level wind reel. Just need another levelwind trolling reel and some heavy line, lures, leaders etc and I will be set for some trolling as well as casting.
Thanks for the intel so far, keep it coming as I have never even SEEN a pike, muskie, tiger muskie etc and will be a babe in the woods so to speak.
Been feelin pretty rough this last 1-2 weeks with high pain and lots of nausea, plus exhaustion. I sure hope I am up to the trip by then.
Been feelin pretty rough this last 1-2 weeks with high pain and lots of nausea, plus exhaustion. I sure hope I am up to the trip by then.
MARK
Where there is a will there is a way, my way is prayer, and I am going to start right now.
Most loving God, bring Mark health in body and spirit that he may serve You with all his strength. Touch gently his life which you have created, now and forever.
Safariman- I dont want to sound like the debbie downer of the group here, but don't over-outfit yourself for fishing on this trip. Quemado lake is not very big. You could probably troll the entire rim of the lake in 20 minutes.
That is good to know, I just fon't have a clue as to how one goes about fishing for muskies, tiger or otherwise. If you or anyone else has more intel I would love to recieve such. So far all I have heard is that Daredevil spoons work, which I figured, but there ought to be more lures than that and more to the game than that.
Appreciate the heads up. Hoping and planning gives me extra motivation to work on my health to whatever extent my efforts have impact on the matter.
Mark - the only three Muskies I ever caught were in Canada when I was fishing for Northern Pike and Walleye - supposedly there were no Muskies in that lake. But, two of those hit readily and hard on flashing and colored spoons/spinners I was tossing from the boat toward some weedy areas nearer the shore looking for Pike. The third one came in hooked with another fish - Muskie grabbed a smaller Walleye as I was hauling it in and gave me a heckuva surprise.
I have never tried these Tiger Muskies here - hope to do so in late April. I think that Kamerad Les had a few lure suggestions earlier on this thred.
BTW, I am not sure you could troll around the shoreline of Q lake in 20 minutes as per Jon. but he is correct, it is not a big lake. I am not good at such estimates, but I would guess maybe 300 acres or so. Maybe more.
Hi Mark - am wishing you all the best, too. We do hope you get feeling a lot better and can join us.
Looks like I missed fairly bad on my guess about the size of Q Lake, but I honestly do think it looks bigger than the 110 acres they state in that blurb.
I'd like to run a polar planimeter around a high-altitude vertical of Quemado Lake as it is today. Wouldn't be at all surprised to find that it's a lot bigger'n it was a few years back.
IIUC, catch-and-release is the rule for any muskie less than about forty inches. If you like, for the benefit of you guys who "forget" and leave your rubber rulers and De-Liars at home, I can have one of my carpentry tapes there to help keep you legal!
If we get to come (still hoping) and run into a musky with our lure, I think we will be quite pleased to take a photo and let it go & grow. No money for taxidermy these days and trying to keep the meat cool for the long journey home does not seem feasable. they don't look to be a terribly meaty or good eating fish anyway. I could be wrong on that idea, though.
On the health front, the docs FINNALY have me on enough BP meds that my BP is almost normal. Getting the BP down to reasonable levels has reduced my headache pain a great deal. Thanks to all who have offered encouaragement and prayers.
Wifey and I are going to TRY to start saving a little each month now toward the fuel costs to get there and back, and hope that the pain leverl reamin under control until then. I will be doing some gun flipping between now and then, as I can, to try to set aside the required funds as well.
Wish my very tiny income and large bills'd let me offer to help with the gas money. But I'm still 'way shy of what I owe.
Thnaks a lot for the thought, thnkks tons and I know you were sincere in the post. I was not fishing for cash, sorry if it sounded or looked that way. If we cannot get there on our own we shall not go. Many gun shows and private party deals to be had between now and then, and gun flippin is FUN! I seem to have a knack for such so here's hopin!
Mark I hope it works out for you to get down here, but I think we all undertand if not. The most important thing for you is to get healthy.
Thank you, sir! But on that note, only a great Miracle from God in the form of either new Kidneys or my cysts dissapearing (which to date has never happened in known modern times) will make me healthier or better. What I have is chronic and untreatable and deteriorates over time EXCEPTING that God is more than able to reverse or change my scenario with reducing cysts or a miraculous Kidney transplant from heaven. I like that Idea a lot, with no anti rejection meds for life needed when God does it!
Praise God for that, and thank you for sharing your testimony of such. I still have hope of similar for myself, but will love and serve and worhip my creator either way. MARK
Ken and others: Without looking through all the other posts (I forget stuff all too often), what is the official date schedule of the 2012 Quemado gathering? Sorry this is a repeat of other posts but, slack is appreciated given my propensity for more than occasional bouts of forgetfulness.
Though we are going to Fl and VA on a vacation in search of a retirement location(s, god I'd love a small cabin or home in Va.) search at some point in June, if there is enough $$ are left over, I will try my dangdest to still try and to attend and meet so many I have read about and posts by.
There are a LOT of folks here that speak the truth and think right-mindedly and I like to think I recognize quality folks from their reputations and their words.
It would be doubly great if my son in law were able to attend as he is a firearms enthusiast, though not as experienced as many, I am SOOOO looking forward to getting him on his first deer (or should god smile, an Elk or perhaps Buffler' as amount of meat is important to a man with 4 lovely children, 4 of our grandkids! (BWT, I am a "pentagram" patented phrase for a 5x Granny, one being from my daughter the othergroup from my better half's side).
Best wishes to all, and regardless how this year plays out, I sincerely wish yinz'all a safe, happy and healthy summer. Do take the time to enjoy the majesty that is life and share it with those you love.
Patty - the campfire gathering up here is scheduled for the weekend of July 13-15. Some folks my drift in a bit earlier and may stay a bit later due to the long drive to get here - but things will be starting to happen on Friday night and should be in full swing by Saturday mid-morn. Hope you can join us.
I will be sure to double down, better yet triple down, on my prayers for you and yours as well as all the planning on going.. Here's hoping, no that is not right, demanding the powers that be to see you to the gathering in fine fettle and able to enjoy meeting with the contingent of folks that are looking in high hopes for you and yours to be there.
The sheer volume of experience of those in attendance will be a wondrous experience to just listen to stories, world views and simply share a nice 'fireside chat with. Hope it works out on my end to be able to go as my friend is taking me on a vacation (been over 7+ years since I have had a proper vacation) to FL and then VA (looking for possible retirement locations) and other places not too long before the Quemado affair...
If my luck plays out in a positive way I will arrive bearing as large an amount as I can pool together small gifts for any interested in acquiring things collected over a lifetime and also any brass I have left over after trying to gather some gas money on the classifieds here selling some surplus brass, scopes and a couple other things to keep the wheels in motion to and from New Mexico.
I REALY like passing on to others things of use or simply momento's of a journey and remembrances of a memorable trip. I am going to try like heck to make it and also the son in law may be able to go too. He is veteran (ex Airforce) and a firearm enthusiast though only recently has he gotten into the shooting sports from prodding from I. His wife is in the late stages of finishing her Nursing degree and eventually going on to be anesthesiologist. The drive of both of them and the time they spend with their lovely children really warms my heart and astounds me given their work load.
A well, warm and proper campfire welcome would be a gift he would remember for the ages and perhaps some of his 4 children (4 of my 5 grand kids) would be perhaps attendees in the future. Should he be able to attend, I would consider it a personal favor, though I certainly have no grounds to ask (not being turd like or any of the other mantles of honor bestowed here, just an azz head at times of frustration, despair or anger), to all of a warm welcome to him by all.
I am absolutely certain that he is 'campfire material and one that all would be enrichment to the lives of those that have the pleasure of meeting a person of such high moral order as him. I have not told him of any of this beyond "it is a campout with a group of folks I hold in high regard, shooting of many firearms, several, once in a life time type guns to be held, fondled and perhaps fired, many stories (embellished or true to the core) and camaraderie with a dollop of yarn spinning and a likely a toddy or several, shared around a nice fire, kind of an "ATF" weekend" is the event, even though for the most part, I haven;t met F2F most but one is able to get a feeling of folks by their expressive writings and reputations through many others.
I know that I strive to deal as I wish to be dealt with and value my reputation extremely highly, but being human my frailties have seeped through in several of my past posts. With the familial and personal medical difficulties of the past couple years and especially the last 6 months or so, I have found my "center" or as I call it my "Wa" and it is a very comfortable feeling, likening it to a smooth slick body of water to look upon and reflect of lifes wonders and looking forward to the positives one can help when and where we can. Nope, I am not ANYWHERE near to perfect, but to hijack a song title from a group I admire, I am closer to fine...
Thank you for Mark and especially Ken and others that extended the offers of being a part of this meeting and allaying my trepidations and taking the time emailing me with warm hopes of my attending this years festivities. I really would enjoy meeting you and the very many others going as I am one that finds making acquaintances quite often leads to life long friends. I reckon this is the case with this gathering, given most folks have several common interests and judging by previous posts I have read over the years and those that I have had the pleasure of posting here, there seems to be a large contingent of truly quality folks out there.
Do be safe and perhaps take a look at the evening sky this weekend with your lovvie and/or loved ones held close. It is a mind boggling thing to behold, the sheer magnificence of the universe makes me feel like an amoeba looking at a whale shark in the cosmic order of things. In other words I feel insignificantly minute compared to that is beyond our understanding and us mere mortals.
Thank you, and many others, for yourprayers on my behalf. I can assure you both personally and from the others that your son, should he be able to attend, will be treated more than warmly. More like with great admiration and appreciation.
Hoping and praying that we both can be there and show off our families and a few toys.
BE safe and blessed yerself, young lady!
On my way to a gunshow today, if I sell a few the wife is in total agreement to set aside some of the money for gas money toards this trip. I mean, I can only shoot one gun at a time, anyway, right? Learning to be happier with less, truly. Trading off a toy or two to catch up on some bills and See ya'll in July!
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so with this gathering a couple months away - some questions/comments:
1. How many folks are coming?
2. I have 2 wild boar hams, attained at the Campfire Hog Hunt from a youngish boar. If someone likes the idea of cooking them, I'll be happy to donate them. They are pretty good sized, maybe 15 lbs each.
3. So on guns to shoot, I have a fairly eclectic collection, in general terms 1911's, AR's, and Ruger #1's. Some that would be easy for beginners to shoot, some not. No plans to sell anything, but if someone wants to try something along those lines, let me know & I'll try to bring it. Sorry, no .450 Nitro #1...at least not this year
Health and other issues allowing, Sherri and I hope to be there.
If we come we will bring some normal fun guns like her Bearcat 22 and my 1911 in 10mm, but I am toying with the idea of bringing the 416 Rigby so that those who wish to can shoot a gen you whine Elephant rifle that actually has elephant Blood in its life experience.
Prayers sent, Mark, hope you can make it - and not just because I want to shoot your .416
Part of the fun of the Campfire Hog Hunt was getting to shoot some awfully cool weapons. For this trip I'll probably bring an AR10 in .308, a .45-70 #1, the .480 Ruger, and the Les Baer. Knowing there might be some youngsters & recoil sensitive folks attending, I could sub a .223 or other lighter caliber guns, for other's enjoyment.
so with this gathering a couple months away - some questions/comments:
1. How many folks are coming?
2. I have 2 wild boar hams, attained at the Campfire Hog Hunt from a youngish boar. If someone likes the idea of cooking them, I'll be happy to donate them. They are pretty good sized, maybe 15 lbs each.
3. So on guns to shoot, I have a fairly eclectic collection, in general terms 1911's, AR's, and Ruger #1's. Some that would be easy for beginners to shoot, some not. No plans to sell anything, but if someone wants to try something along those lines, let me know & I'll try to bring it. Sorry, no .450 Nitro #1...at least not this year
1. I am not sure of the actual number as of right now, but rough estimate would be about 15 to 20. Perhaps we need to start working on getting an accurate count?
2. I appreciate the offer on the hams, but I think I am set for what I have cooking, maybe someone else can put them to use. I will be smoking two pork shoulders for pulled pork like I did at the Sierra Vista get together. I think I am also going to cook up a pot of green chili pork to bring.
3. Bring whatever you feel like bringing for guns. I think we all have a pretty varied taste in guns from what I have seen at all the get togethers so far. There hasn't been a shortage of neat stuff on hand or folks willing to share at one of our shindigs yet.
Its getting closer, but feels like we have been talking about, and planning this one for a loooong time. I am really looking forward to it. Seeing familiar friends, and making new ones. Its certainly is a great group of folks, and I am to be associated with all them... even KRP and tha DARBY fellow!
It looks like I will be there. Not sure other than myself what I will be bringing. I have not flown with a gun in many years and not sure if Old Chocolate would be a star guest anyway.
Flying with guns is a snap, Call me and I will give you some tips on such. Really glad that you get to come down! This is going to be one terrific shindig. MARK
If we get to come, we will have the 26ft camping trailer on hand. Hoping to get there a little early and do some fishing in the Lake. First for trout (Bait) then for Muskies.
You keep talking abot this DARBY fellow. I've met KRP and some of the others, but I haven't seen this DARBY character. Does he really exist or is he a resident of the same neighborhood as Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy?
Do pictures exist?
BTW, if you're putting together a list of attendees, I will be there! Going to slow down in Lamesa, TX and kidnap curdog4570 on the way.
DARBY does indeed exist - or, at least did - and was a fun addition to the previous gathering at Q Lake due to his nice firearms, curious appearance and even more curious disposition - and a sanitary truck. Pictures do exist, but many are not suitable for posting on a family web site. He had conflicts due to an elk hunt and bad weather, so did not show up at the SV event last December.
We missed him a lot. Actually, a very nice and considerate fellow who who has stepped up and been very helpful in some circumstances of need. I hope he is able to come this July.
I am figuring that early in June we maybe should start a fresh post giving particular event info and aimed at getting a head count and setting tactical plans. As in the past, we can go to a group PM setting when we get into personal info particulars. How does this sound?
I am figuring that early in June we maybe should start a fresh post giving particular event info and aimed at getting a head count and setting tactical plans. As in the past, we can go to a group PM setting when we get into personal info particulars. How does this sound?
Excellent idea! In the mean time we can b.s. it up here plenty... On the subject of Sir Darby, he is everything CCCC has said. I think pretty highly of him in spite of any ribbing that I heap upon him. He is really good guy.
I suppose I should reply here before things get too deep. Thanks for the kind words, folks.
First a disclaimer - Ken, that cannot be a picture of me. I am surely not that old.
As for the Quemado get-together, I will bring over the shooting bench, a few revolvers and a big batch of real chili. And of course my much-envied truck...
I have sure tried to make it, but I am afraid that it looks like any trip I can squeeze in will be to visit my aging folks back in Canada with some things this summer. They are in their middle eighties and even though I currently can do a lot of things for them via the internet, it looks like they will need help with some things that demand my physical presence.
I have not yet given up on Quemado though - and I am still reading the thread regularly!
I sure hope that this happens next year too -- I have a better chance of making that one!
� Do you Skype? Perhaps (given good cell phone coverage) we can place a Skype video call from the Gathering so you can at least join in via cyberspace!
What's Skype?
Could we perhaps have something like a Skype station set-up, so that curious far-flung absentees can schmooze with the specific renegades whom they're curious about?
� Do you Skype? Perhaps (given good cell phone coverage) we can place a Skype video call from the Gathering so you can at least join in via cyberspace!
What's Skype?
Could we perhaps have something like a Skype station set-up, so that curious far-flung absentees can schmooze with the specific renegades whom they're curious about?
Skype is a VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) program for your computer or smartphone (I know, your phone is so dumb it only makes and receives calls... ) and allows video calls that Dick Tracy could only dream about. Both parties have to have Skype loaded onto their computers. Skype basic is free and allows audio and video calls to one person at a time, while Skype Premium allows video conference calls.
Both plans allow you to buy call time so you can make audio-only calls to cell phones and landlines. The call quality greatly exceeds that of a cellphone when you have a good computer connection. Plus, it currently costs $0.023 (2.3 cents) per minute to make long distance calls to Europe, Canada, and anywhere in the US.
I use it to train folks and troubleshoot gear, as well as seeing how much my grandsons, nieces, and nephews have grown.
I have had as many as four video calls going at once in conference call mode, but it really sucks bandwidth! A cellular IP connection might not be able to handle that kind of load, so one at a time would be best.
The major danger to using Skype is to remember how you are dressed (or not dressed, as the case may be ) before choosing to answer a call in either audio-only or a video call.
As I recall, we didn't have cell phone service or access to a wireless router out at the lake, but a lot can change in a year. Maybe one of the travel trailers will have a satellite hookup by now, but I wouldn't count on it. The guys at the gathering last year were the kind that don't want those gizmos around--makes it too easy to google factual information to counter the usual BS!
Well folks, for me, the latest update for the Quemado gathering is this:
I am scrambling to get my doodo in a group and will try and sell some brass and a few other things to try and finance this mission. While I can make no promise I am sure to keep, I will dang sure TRY to make it happen.
I had the fortune of obtaining tickets to one of my (kinda don't care for the term) "bucket list" concerts, front row, center orchestra/pit section that I have had pleasant dreams of for more than a decade. Likely don't have too many more concert going experiences left in me so I have to go where the opportunity presents itself. Anyway, that is a factor in attending the Quemado gathering.
Last night, I resized about 600 30-30 (on a single stage press no less) and hope to bring Marvin the Wonder rifle (An old Marlin 336 30-30) and perhaps a 1895 Marlin 45-70 (also a handi rifle 45-70 barrel to sell/trade for a 30-06 for the same), likely my 44 mag Marlin 1894 and if ammo permits a pistol or 2 to share with for all who wish to play.
I REALLY would like to meet so many of the folks (Ken, Safariman and a host of several others) that have taken the time to so warmly invite me to this shindig.
The last few years has been not too pleasant but I am not whining, quite the opposite, as I seldom explain, the difference between explanation and excuse is but merely one's point of view.
If able to attend this year, I am planning on bringing a tent and camping kit but am not sure of the temps and conditions in mid July. Being a little differently able, but reasonably mobile, I'd appreciate advise on needed kit, climatic conditions and necessary accoutrements appropriate for comfort in the area. BTW I LIKE cold but reckon NM in the summer, even at altitude, is more than that.
Also would like to bring my road bicycle to burn some cal's to offset the inevitable preponderance of vittles.
Should Fortuna smile and I am blessed to be able to come to the gathering, I will bring a chili kit or 2 + some Pa venison from the last deer I had the privilege of harvesting (a humbling experience, spiritually).
Thoughts of sundries needed to keep in reserve would be appreciated as I prefer to arrive with an abundance of things to share for those that run low on whatever.
Being as I have pretty much stopped selling brass now due to circumstances beyond my control, I will bring the last of my stuff for trade/freebies and do have some oddball brass and stuff that are welcome to be given a new home as I like to see stuff reused by those that need/or can use it.
I'd like a chance to thank those who have taken the time to invite me to this event and sincerely hope it works out that I can attend. I have vacillated in the past about attending but my desire and curiosity to meet the quality of folk I have communicated with is something that is greatly looked forward to. Wish the distances were smaller to visit folks of generally like mind.
Be safe all, and do take the time daily to enjoy the life we are blessed with.
Hope you can make it. Nights at that elevation are cool and dry--a light sleeping bag will be just right. Daytime, shorts and a tee-shirt are just right if you have a light jacket for early mornings and late evenings. You can burn a lot of calories on a road bike--traffic is light, even by rural New Mexico standards.
Everyone brings food, and Kent and a few strays have to stay over an extra day or two, just to chow down on the leftovers. My lovely bride will be in Costa Rica, but she has promised to prepare a large batch of her green chile burritos for me to bring.
Don't know what I will be bringing to shoot, but I shot up way more of other people's ammo last year, as opposed to my own. I will try to hold up my own a little better this year. Never been in a more congenial and knowledgeable group of outdoors men and women--and that's saying a lot at my age and stage. And, then, there is Ken Howell--how often do you get to hobnob with a true legend!
Thanx for the info. I am kitted for +60 to -10 and am really looking forward to meeting friends that I simply haven't hat the pleasure of seeing F2F as of yet. I am scrambling to get my stuff together and post a few ads in the coming weeks. Have hopes of a new carry piece and of course all are welcome for durability testing (need 200-300+ rounds with no ftf's, jMS ETC... no cleaning or babying, minimum for a carry piece)...
Given a shower every day or so for civility, I am pretty low maintenance and love to sling lead, tell stories but better yet, listen to others feats of daring do and accomplishments. Please do introduce your self If we happen to meet...
I usually do 30 to 40 miles daily on a road bike (kills my back,neck) but life is tough and it is the only form of exercise I have found that doesn't absolutely KILL my knees. I reckon the altitude will lessen that significantly as I am at but 1350MSL presently.
Thank you again for the tips and please be safe. About to ask the creator for my worthiness to go for a much needed "in the blind" vacation.
Ken ad Safariman have been a wealth of knowledge and kindness of invite and I am SO looking forward to making their acquaintance as with others such as yourself on this years foray. Scrounging for an appropriate pass me down for someone that has done so much, I am impressed by the sheer FEELING of quality I get from folks posting about the GTG. I feel like a rube, noob and am praying that circumstances permit my attending.
I have a humongous Timberjack Quallofil sleeping bag � free for the using or taking � that's rated, IIRC, down to -40�. It's good for sleeping on. Might still have a couple of sleeping pads. Nights here will be chilly all right, but nobody needs to be afraid of getting cold, and nobody has to dread sleeping outside.
Nobody has reserved the available bed space here yet, either. I have two good ones � a double in one room and a single in another. And plenty of floor space for pallets and sleeping bags.
Not a square foot designated for anybody yet.
I don't use my shower (can't), but it's open to all at any hour, day or night (one at a time!) of course.
I was fortunate enough to visit Ken last month and we took a ride down to Quemado Lake and surrounding area, scoping out campgrounds and shooting sites for the upcoming Gathering.
After conferring with Ken & CCCC (picking their brains) about possibilities and probabilities, there are two primary options;
1. Try to get as many of us into one campground at Quemado Lake, either Pinon ($10/day fee) or El Caso (free), and travel to another location to do any shooting. Both of these campgrounds have vault-type toilets and a mix of tent & RV sites (no hookups), with 22 total sites at each of the campgrounds, with fire rings at every site. We would be ~ one mile from the Lake boat launch. Pinon and El Caso Campground LINK The downside to this option is that we may not have the campground to ourselves (every campground had several people camped there mid-week when we visited) and we will have to travel to prove our prowess with firearms. Or embarrass ourselves, whichever is appropriate.
2. Go to the Armijo Campground a couple of miles south of the lake, back in the National Forest, and pretty much have the place to ourselves. This campground has vault-type toilets, five fire rings, five picnic tables, and no dedicated RV sites Armijo Campground LINK We can shoot right there (but they don't want ATV's being used in the campground???) and Ken can do table dances to his heart's content without fear of being in next month's People magazine or on the cover of the Enquirer. The downside to this campground is that we are ~eight miles (by road) from Quemado Lake for those who want to fish or play in the water.
There is a restaurant ("Snuffy's") just before you get to the lake on the Lake road that doubles as a small country store and has showers available ($3.00) for those who desire a semblance of civilization.
These options come with the same caveat; Fire danger status. If the folks there don't get rain, we may not be able to have open fires, drastically reducing the amount of mischief curdog4570 and I can get into, as well as curtailing the late night caterwauling and bug stomping (singing and dancing to some).
This is everyone's Gathering, I just did some research with help, and now would like feedback from the prospective attendees as to preferences, ideas, suggestions, alternatives, and anything I may have missed. Since I wasn't there for last year's Gathering, I KNOW that I have left out something important/valuable.
I see no reason for the notion that we all have to settle-down in one spot to do only one thing. The distances between the several spots aren't great, but the variety is.
The crowd, I'm sure, will be most diverse, from (a) those who'll be uncomfortable without good beds under 'em and solid roofs over 'em at night, to (b) those who'll be right at home sleeping on the ground under the stars or in the bed of a pick-up.
� In the wee burg of Quemado itself, the Largo Motel, the Largo caf�, and my house offer "civilized" accommodations for several people, and there's room in my yard for one, two, maybe three trailers.
� The campgrounds right at the lake, like public campgrounds everywhere, come with both assets and liabilities that come with crowds of strangers around you. Not so much, of course, the more remote Armijo campground a few short miles from the lake.
� Some will prefer to fish, more or less solo. Some will prefer to shoot in a group. Some will prefer to just sit around and hob-nob with old friends whom we've just met face-to-face for the first time.
� Some will come with their families, probably including both kids and dogs. Mom and Sis may not enjoy doing the same things that Dad and Junior do.
Variety we got. Weeks and months to do it all we ain't. There's no need for us all to settle on just one location or just one way to spend our brief time together.
Where we sleep, bathe, and eat is one thing to base our plans on.
Nice post, Ed. Should help get focus on optimum siting.
Only one comment - I do not know of any restrictions on use of ATVs at the campgrounds - at least not in the Armijo Springs site. Hunters, etc., use ATVs there all of the time. Did you uncover some announced restriction?
The BIG issue last year came with forest prohibition on open fires/outdoor cooking due to dry conditions. That is why we were were smack on gravel next to the lake and needed to travel to shoot. We did not feel comfortable displaying firearms and having them out and about in an area where "others" (with kids, etc) were rather close by. The event in SV was great in that respect - lots of show and tell.
We'll make that happen one way or another. If we don't get the normal July 1 rains and experience similar restrictions this year, we will be better prepared and do just fine by making some optional adjustments - more than one option there.
I like Ken's flexible thinking for those that choose to disperse, but my bias is that it has seemed more enjoyable when the celebrants are mainly on-site and involved with ongoing events and arising fun.
I am sure looking forward to seeing you all - putting faces and voices to the posts here.
Once again, you are absolutely right. My concern was to find a spot where we could all congregate for the "gathering" part of the gathering, with the recognition that some folks are going to be lazy and not get up until 06:00AM, others will be early risers.
My other concern echoes Paul's on exhibiting firearms around others not in our group and the unwanted attention that may bring.
Paul, regarding ATV use in the campground, yes, there is a notation on the website for Armijo Campground about that.
For purely selfish reasons, I'm just trying to maximize the time we can all be together, realizing that some folks will be staying in Quemado, some in RV's, some in tents, and some off in the wilderness.
Just trying to get folks thinking about locations. The rest of it will fall together, whether we are all spending the night in the same place or not.
I like the one campground idea, and we much prefer the lakeside idea as camping without a lake or river in sight is just not as much fun for us. My vote is the campround nearby the lake and folks that stay in hotels or other places can gather there. Those of us with RV's will share our 'facilities' I am sure. We even have an outdoor shower for the wimminz! Ken insisted on that one <G>
Armijo campground sure does look like an el primo spot for a coagulation of our brand of renegades and reprobates! Heck, Joe might even like it well enough to tolerate a little dust on his pick-up!
Let's just hope that nobody else is clogging it up when we get there!
Neither of the "family" campgrounds (the two I mentioned at the lake) have a view of the water. In fact, there is only one that I saw that did have a view of the water, and it is right at the boat launch and is quite small. It looks more like an extension of the boat launch parking lot than a regular camping spot.
That said, I'm open to whatever folks want to do. I'm pretty flexible, even in my old age.
The free campground where we gathered last year is right by the lake. I don't remember the name of it. IIRC, it's the next one along the lake road, beyond the first boat-ramp area.
The Armijo campground (above) is of course a few miles from the lake.
In a lot of ways the Cove Campground spot worked out really well last year. Though setting camp on gravel ain't the ideal. It was right by the water, plenty of room for trucks/trailers, close to Snuffy's, had a toilet, etc. It wasn't much of a drive to get to the spot we shot at etiher... maybe five minutes or so.
I am game for whatever really. Its looking more and more like it will just be my son Stephen and I so I am figuring on sleeping in the the truck bed.
AFTER the P'Dog hunt with curdog4570, RickyD, and others, I discovered that my one-man, three season, backpacking tent will set up IN the bed of my truck if the tonneau cover is raised all the way up.
So, no more 'skeeter bites at night.
BTW, that'll teach you to buy a short-bed truck...
AFTER the P'Dog hunt with curdog4570, RickyD, and others, I discovered that my one-man, three season, backpacking tent will set up IN the bed of my truck if the tonneau cover is raised all the way up.
So, no more 'skeeter bites at night.
BTW, that'll teach you to buy a short-bed truck...
AFTER the P'Dog hunt with curdog4570, RickyD, and others, I discovered that my one-man, three season, backpacking tent will set up IN the bed of my truck if the tonneau cover is raised all the way up.
So, no more 'skeeter bites at night.
BTW, that'll teach you to buy a short-bed truck...
I'm allergic to their anticoagulant � get itchy white knots everywhere that they've just refueled. My part-Cherokee grandfather, he of the saddle-leather hide, always advised "Just ignore 'em, Son."
Yeah, right!
OFF! candles help me ignore 'em now. And OFF!'s TV ads now say that there's a belt clip-on that keeps 'em away.
I'll bet! I have my doubts about even a saddle-leather hide.
AFTER the P'Dog hunt with curdog4570, RickyD, and others, I discovered that my one-man, three season, backpacking tent will set up IN the bed of my truck if the tonneau cover is raised all the way up.
So, no more 'skeeter bites at night.
BTW, that'll teach you to buy a short-bed truck...
Ed
I like to park it in my garage
And Scott called ME a wimp?
Ed
I got 2 of them
Only room for 1 in the garage and 1 in the driveway
Hate to disappoint any guys who like to give mosquito reports, but seems like we rarely experience the critters - at least out here in the forest. Can't remember more than one bite in 12 summers up here. Now, maybe, over by the lake - but can't even recall any biting there at the Cove camp area at our 2011 gather. Anyone get bit?
Hate to disappoint any guys who like to give mosquito reports, but seems like we rarely experience the critters - at least out here in the forest. Can't remember more than one bite in 12 summers up here. Now, maybe, over by the lake - but can't even recall any biting there at the Cove camp area at our 2011 gather. Anyone get bit?
Nobody notices skeeters that ain't, and those ever-so-faint nonexistent impressions fade fast.
FWIW, we vote for the Cove campground. We love to be next to and see water when we camp.
"Not sure I want to drag the trailer over for a weekend....." Hailfar, man. Health and cash flow allowing, we are towing ours 1200 miles ONE WAY to come! Hoping to come early and fish for a day or two as a part of the whole adventure and vacation.
I am soooo pleased that my sweetie asked for the time off to go to this with me. Her boss at the Christain Aid center OK'ed it, as well! She will probably have to drive a lot, too, due to my health concerns/problems. Amazing woman, this one. Hope ya'll get to meet her, you will be blessed just in that. Looking better and better all the time. I sold a pre-64 model 88 in 243 last night and the proceeds are going into the gas tanks for Quemado fund. Seeing a doc today for an update.
Rick has just put the new batteries in my power chair.
Now, whether we congregate at Cove or Armijo, we'll find-out how long they'll hold a charge!
Never let a chance for a test go to waste!
We will have our Generator with both 110 and 220 outlets so bring your battery charger. If the chair cannot be re charged in that environment we will simply tie you onto one of our motorcycles. THEN you will be dangerously mobile!
Ken, the bikerdude chick magnet! We will try to bring down some extra black leather riding gear for you as well.... <G>
Think I'll go up to Q today and change the gear ratio on Ken's electric bike - so he can lay some rubber on US 60 in front of the PO. Be sure to wear your Speedo and sun glasses, Ken.
Maybe we'll put some knobby tires on that 12 volt menace to be ready the Campfire gathering.
Think I'll go up to Q today and change the gear ratio on Ken's electric bike - so he can lay some rubber on US 60 in front of the PO. Be sure to wear your Speedo and sun glasses, Ken.
Maybe we'll put some knobby tires on that 12 volt menace to be ready for the Campfire gathering.
"Menace" is right!
At the first SHOT Show after my stroke, a friend rented one for me. Dern thing had just two speeds � "Whoa!" and "Sic 'em!" � and a rather reluctant brake. If one of the babes in the press lounge hadn't been able to jump like a flea, we'd've both been doin' a heap o' hurtin'.
Very true. I seldom use the term because, to me, it signifies the corruption which that life brings. They took a word which is in direct opposition to their existence and twisted it. I have seen nothing "lighthearted, happy, and uplifting" about the homosexual life.
Probably subject matter for another thread as to not ruin this one.
Just throwing this out there, and to also give a bump to the thread. I am planning on bringing my 10" gong, and a rebar stand to hang it from. My is wide enough we can probably hang another on it too.
Just throwing this out there, and to also give a bump to the thread. I am planning on bringing my 10" gong, and a rebar stand to hang it from. My is wide enough we can probably hang another on it too.
Awsome fun! I LUV blowing gongs to smithereens with my 416 Rigby!
just kiddin, if anyone wants to shoot that rifle we will leave the Gong alone until you are sure you are OK with holes in it, if that would ever be the case. Might be a no elephant rifles allowed on the gong station deal <G>
Just throwing this out there, and to also give a bump to the thread. I am planning on bringing my 10" gong, and a rebar stand to hang it from. My is wide enough we can probably hang another on it too.
Good throw, Tom. I think we will have a good time with that gong out at 300 yards - well, maybe 200 or 400, who knows? - and maybe we could think of another interesting item to also put on your stand - like maybe a photo? This shooting time is going to be such enjoyment.
I'm thinking I might also bring a long banquet type table as well. I usually take one out when I shoot at my spot in the desert. It makes for great bench to shoot from and its wide enough to fit two shooters side by side. We could always use a table around camp too.
I will probably bring mine unless someone else has one they can bring.
'Some pigs don't like guys like me, but most pigs do'...
That's what separates me from the Wanna'beee Pig F'ers...
Sorry to say I am probably not being around to make this get together, It's why I haven't chimed in and offered my trailer and cooking stuff as usual. Being one of the founders it'll be tough to take with all the new folks coming.
KRP, good to hear from you here buddy. Its a drag that you're probably not able to make it. Its a shame actually, but I guess that means we'll have to talk about you in your absence.
Iffn' the creator smiles on me and I can attend, my CRV has a portable table about 4x4' if that helps, also will bring a folding chair and bags for a rest.
Currently decapping and polishing 30-06, already did about 250 30-30 and if I can afford the slugs Ole Marvin the wonder rifle (and perhaps it's cuz a Marlin 336 shorty 30-30 stainless) will have some fodder for the hills. 44 mag and 45-70 are next on the list...
There would'nt happen to be a good gunsmith among the attendees would there? Marvin needs about 4" lopped off the barrel and mag (flush to the end of the barrel) just because I like short rifles and Marvin is somewhat, shall we say, cosmetically challenged, also an odd, oversized spot in the bore near the end of the barrel....
Be safe and hoping enough pennies stay in the trip bottle... Patty
KRP, good to hear from you here buddy. Its a drag that you're probably not able to make it. Its a shame actually, but I guess that means we'll have to talk about you in your absence.
We dasn't let 'im know it, o' course, but we're really gonna miss ol' Kent. With his big trailer, his big canopy, his big grill, and a ton of food, he was our camp, our cafeteria, and our caterer. We'll get along all right, with our own pot-luck doin's, but it won't be the same. If I dared to tell 'im, that's what I'd say.
Now, besides DARBY and Jon, who're we gonna pick-on, if Kent ain't gonna be there?
Somebody who's coming mentioned that he might bring a pair of young-boar hams. Bring 'em! and I'll show this conglomeration of iggerunt outlanders what real Alabama country barbecue is like.
There would'nt happen to be a good gunsmith among the attendees would there? Marvin needs about 4" lopped off the barrel and mag (flush to the end of the barrel) just because I like short rifles and Marvin is somewhat, shall we say, cosmetically challenged, also an odd, oversized spot in the bore near the end of the barrel.... Patty
Don't know for sure if we will have a "good gunsmith" on the scene, but sure not likely to have access to a nice lathe like Greg's - when we were in SV. However, we can find a hacksaw - even a powered steel saw on stand that cuts straight strokes - and probably can also scare up things needed to finish off the new end somewhat decent. But, a really precision edged and tightly finished/undercut crown could be a stretch during the gathering.
Marvin probably is deserving of better - would not want to insult his dignity.
Kent, already told you - in spades - that your absence from this thing is bad news for me. Lot's of good folks need to meet krp. If there is a way to help make it happen, LMK.
Don't know how we will get it done without you. Like Paul says, if there is anything we can do to spring you loose, don't hesitate to let us know. We are at your service.
Somebody who's coming mentioned that he might bring a pair of young-boar hams. Bring 'em! and I'll show this conglomeration of iggerunt outlanders what real Alabama country barbecue is like.
If they only carried that Romo jersey in fuchsia...
Anyway, with the lack of steady concrete work in Az, at least good paying work... I have a couple of offers out of state for this summer. I have a project here till July first then I'll go to Elko, NV till winter. My wife will stay here to watch the new Granddaughter when my daughter starts teaching in Aug... So truthfully, any trips back will be to see my family.
If the project here takes till the weekend of the get together I may divert over and head to Elko from there... so a slim chance. I'm already under pressure to get to Elko now, though I have to honor my commitment here first... so will probably be hooking on the trailer and heading to NV as soon as I work my last day, take a shower, change cloths and kiss my wife goodbye.
If any pigs show up with lipstick and high heels... let'em down easy, will ya...
Thanks, Kent - not our biz, but nice of you to tell. Hope the work goes great - and know you will hate being away from your wife/family. And, Elko is not all that cool.
Of course, this all has come up because our needing your good spirit here is the real issue. If you get here, big bonus for us.
For the record, here's how all this foolishment began �
During my incarceration in the ICU at Mountain Vista hospital in Mesa, old friend Tom (AKA "Slim") brought along his buddy Kent and introduced us. Later, when I was doing hard time at the Apache Junction nursing home, Kent scammed my jailers into thinking that the name "Kent Powell" was close enough to "Ken Howell" to make us kin. He couldn't scam 'em into letting me go free, so he got 'em to let me wander outside in his "custody" for an hour or so now 'n' then.
One of our outings was an evening gab'n'grub fest at a local eatery, with a few others who were already good friends of Tom and Kent and became then good friends of Ken Howell. I couldn't make-out what they were talking about, but it was good to watch 'em get along so well � and of course great to be on parole if even for only a couple of hours.
That wee shindig was apparently so enjoyable for them that they decided to try it again a few months later at Quemado Lake � and that bash � with several more good 'fire guys � proved to be so much fun for everybody that some of 'em arranged another one at Greg's in Sierra Vista. That'n' led to another'n', just as last year's lake bash is leading to another'n' just a few long weeks from now.
So far, even though they're increasingly larger Campfire events, there've been no nastiness, maimings, or killings.
And so it goes � fortunately. I count myself especially blest to know these guys and to watch 'em enjoy good clean in-person fellowship.
For the record, here's how all this foolishment began �
During my incarceration in the ICU at Mountain Vista hospital in Mesa, old friend Tom (AKA "Slim") brought along his buddy Kent and introduced us. Later, when I was doing hard time at the Apache Junction nursing home, Kent scammed my jailers into thinking that the name "Kent Powell" was close enough to "Ken Howell" to make us kin. He couldn't scam 'em into letting me go free, so he got 'em to let me wander outside in his "custody" for an hour or so now 'n' then.
One of our outings was an evening gab'n'grub fest at a local eatery, with a few others who were already good friends of Tom and Kent and became then good friends of Ken Howell. I couldn't make-out what they were talking about, but it was good to watch 'em get along so well � and of course great to be on parole if even for only a couple of hours.
That wee shindig was apparently so enjoyable for them that they decided to try it again a few months later at Quemado Lake � and that bash � with several more good 'fire guys � proved to be so much fun for everybody that some of 'em arranged another one at Greg's in Sierra Vista. That'n' led to another'n', just as last year's lake bash is leading to another'n just a few long weeks from now.
So far, even though they're increasingly larger Campfire events, there've no nastiness, maimings, or killings.
And so it goes � fortunately. I count myself especially blest to know these guys and to watch 'em enjoy good clean in-person fellowship.
On this point, I will have to disagree, friend, Ken!
We DID maim the pulled pork supplied by THOMASMAGNUM and we DID kill a number of bottles of adult beverages in the process.
This upcoming Gathering, we hope to leave some nasty holes in targets with the plethora of forearms that will be present.
Interesting that you mention forearms.... I just got mine all decked out with new ink last week. Collossians 2:14 tatoo'ed on the whole inside of one and "SOLE FIDE!" on the other. Ken, I bet taht you can interpret the SOLE FIDE! for everyone. Large enough print in both cases that the underside of both forearms is now pretty well full coverage ink work. Ya'll have seen the photos of my shoulders and upper arms already scriptured up I think. When these heal up fully I may take some photos and post here, or might just wait and show them off at Quemedo.
...and "SOLE FIDE!" on the other. Ken, I bet taht you can interpret the SOLE FIDE!
I am not Ken, but (I think!) I have had enough Latin (in many science courses) to think that Sole fide means "by faith alone" or maybe "by only faith".
GOOD! FAITH ALONE! Which was the cry of the anabaptists in the very early days of the church when they were combating the Judaization and legalistic tendencies of some parts of the new, budding church and was then the battle cry of Martin Luther when they were being persucuted and even killed by the State Church folks who wanted all to follow thier brand of Traditions and other man made 'stuff' that is not taught in the bible.
Is one of my ways of saying to those whom will sit and listen for a moment that being a follower of Christ is relationship rather than religion. Also that a lot of the nasty stuff and legalism that some try to pass of as being "Christian" has nothing whatever to do with the faith or being saved.
Speaking of which, ya'll will have to excuse me now as I need to go load up my Coors Light's and a bottle of PATRON for our upcoming camping trip
Interesting that you mention forearms.... I just got mine all decked out with new ink last week. Collossians 2:14 tatoo'ed on the whole inside of one and "SOLE FIDE!" on the other. Ken, I bet taht you can interpret the SOLE FIDE! for everyone. Large enough print in both cases that the underside of both forearms is now pretty well full coverage ink work. Ya'll have seen the photos of my shoulders and upper arms already scriptured up I think. When these heal up fully I may take some photos and post here, or might just wait and show them off at Quemedo.
28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor imprint any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Hmmm according to many biblical scholars that passage is in regards to the ancient practice of ritualistic tattoos in mourning of the dead. The actual text as posted above in translation from the Hebrew Torah seems to be fairly clear.
So it would seem pretty evident that that wouldn't particularly apply to a tattoo as a proclaimation of faith or a reminder of a scripture verse of special personal importance...
Unless of course you were just trying to stir schitt, but you wouldn't do that now would you Sycamore?...
My Jewish friends tell me that having a tattoo will prohibit one from being buried in a Jewish cemetery. I assume that this prohibition doesn't apply to those who were tattooed by the Nazis in prison camps.
I never paid any attention to this until a few years ago when one of my friends' daughters was wanting a tattoo and her older sister assured her that her mother would disown her. Not sure if it's religious prohibition, cultural or (as is often the case) both.
Less than 50 days until. I was thinking that a new thread letting us first timers know what we need to bring for the group, and maybe some ideas for our personal comfort. Will we be eating as a group some or will everybody be on their own? If it is a group feed, I can bring things, if I know what will be needed. New thread or Hijack this one? miles
We have usually done community meals for our get togethers. I think everyone has usually brought drinks for themselves, and some to share. I always try bring bring a case of bottled water too, and its a good idea for everyone to do the same. I will be putting on pulled pork for Saturday nights dinner. I'll bring two shoulders worth of meat that should be plenty and then some. I'll have bbq sauce as well. If someone wants to do buns and chips that would be awesome. I was also considering making a pot of green chili pork, but was going to hold off on committing to that until we had a handle on what all was being brought by folks.
Another thing that came to mind for me was that without KRP's company we will be missing a couple of vital things(other than our good friend). We will likely need a grill of some sort. I have a a good grill that I can ccertainly bring, but its a charcoal deal. If fire restrictions are in effect we would need a gas one. So if somebody has a small to medium sized gas grill that they could tote along that would be excellent. Like I said I think that will mostly depend on the when the rains come. Also we will likely need a campstove. I know a number of folks are bring camp trailers so that might not even be an issue at all then, but I wanted to put it out there.
{I had go back to edit this a tad it wouldn't all show up on Kidle Fire's touch screen}
I have a a good grill but its charcoal deal. If fire restrictions are in effect we would need a gas one
I do have a gas grill, if it still works. It has not been used in a long time. I can do buns and chips, no problem, and could bring some fresh frozen corn on the cob and a gas fish cooker to cook it in, if it will be wanted. I will check out the grill. miles
Good thoughts, guys. Once we establish a list of "for sure" attendees and arrive at a total number, we will start rounding up the necessities and planning overall food/equipment issues. It seems to work out well because folks are so generous and helpful in attitude.
Only because I am near the scene and should have a grip on any forest (fire) restrictions, I volunteer to start the final info thread and get the finalities underway. Will start that about 30 days out and we will wrap up final about a week or so ahead once we (I hope) start getting the needed rainfall.
Once we call for the final "for sure", we will then try to do all communication through a group PM so as to keep personal and travel details from being overly broadcast.
Tom, thanks for the pulled pork for the Sat evening meal - guys, his pork is sooooo good - and we will get the fixins gathered around that. Some others tend to do the main part of a breakfast or evening meal, and we will fill those in the same way. For sure, I will do the main part of one of those.
Yes, all should try to bring their own beverages and some extra for the group - cooled, if posssible - this seems to help the overall good. As for needed cooking equipment - we will make certain we have that nailed once we know the specific site and any fire restrictions. It will work out fine. Those who drive/tow in an RV type can really be helpful in the cooking dept.
Please help me with this. It's hard to believe, but I can't find any videos of how to properly clean and lube my new Dillon XL 650 reloading machine! Can you send this question out and hopefully someone can help with at least some pics, but hopefully a video. What brand of grease do you recommend, etc. Thank you very much!
Hello Angus. I do not own a Dillon and cannot help here..
You would be most likely to get the most helpful answer to your inquiry if you were to post your same message in a forum devoted to such issues. I suggest a "reloading" forum or maybe the "gun writers" forum. Best wishes.
I have a superfluity of tableware, so nobody needs to bring any or will have to diddle along with plastic forks and spoons. Got lots of paper plates, too. Also kitchen knives up the kazoo (figuratively! ).
My fancy new gas stove hasn't been used since I got it six years ago, so anything that can be cooked here and hauled twenty miles won't be a problem. Also a nice slow cooker and one or two pressure cookers.
Interesting that you mention forearms.... I just got mine all decked out with new ink last week. Collossians 2:14 tatoo'ed on the whole inside of one and "SOLE FIDE!" on the other. Ken, I bet taht you can interpret the SOLE FIDE! for everyone. Large enough print in both cases that the underside of both forearms is now pretty well full coverage ink work. Ya'll have seen the photos of my shoulders and upper arms already scriptured up I think. When these heal up fully I may take some photos and post here, or might just wait and show them off at Quemedo.
Forearms rock!
Still have room for Leviticus 19:28?
Sycamore
Used up all the room I could have had for that one on my right forearm with Collosians 2:14 (REALLY!)
"Having CANCELLED the written code with its regulations, that was against us and stood opposed to us he took it away, nailing it to the cross"
Photos soon to follow, but those really are all over my forearms, permanently.
Did not mean to hijack this awsome thread about the great times to come so getting back on topic I can bring a table or two if needs be and plan to camp at the campgound. Is that where the grubbin will be goin down or will that be closer to Kens house?
Loading up some .38 special rounds to bring. 150 gr. wheel weights with 3.1 gr. of Red Dot powder. Used a Lee mold and cast straight wheel weights. miles
safariman - good news. When you bought the princess style gown, the vendor shipped it ahead so you would not have to carry it down here. Arrived a week or so ago - sittin in a box up at Ken's place waiting for you to model it for the gang here in July. Maybe we'll build a runway for you at camp. 'Tis a nice lavender color - should go well with your tats.
safariman - good news. When you bought the princess style gown, the vendor shipped it ahead so you would not have to carry it down here. Arrived a week or so ago - sittin in a box up at Ken's place waiting for you to model it for the gang here in July. Maybe we'll build a runway for you at camp. 'Tis a nice lavender color - should go well with your tats.
Lavender and Tat's, now THAT is a fashion statmemnt if ever there was one! Laffin here, but if there is a gown at the event, well......
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ANY physique shape????? Hmmmmmm..... Lets try 6'4", 245lbs. Ya'll think I should try the basic v neck cocktail dress instead of the princess gown style the other company sent down there for me and that Ken threw out thinking it was mosquito netting? Which will look better with my steel toe'd Engineer/Biker boots as footwear?
Ya'll are gonna need an antidote for the brain worm I just planted, methinks.... You're welcome <G>
Why would you joke about my classically good looks and witty charm.
If i can make it, I'm going to wear the shoes again!
Ben, Did you ever buy a set and start running in them?
Jon
No. I had a problem with my left knee and my primary physician referred me to an orthopedic specialist who recommended that I not take up running again without therapy or surgery to repair a torn meniscus. I am trying to rehab it without surgery. The knee is better, but I've gained another five pounds!
I just caught up on this thread. Kent ain't coming? What the heck? More important, what about the fish? Can he just send the fish? That would make it better. I might have to bring up a rifle that fits the vintage of some that will be there. a 1855 maynard springfield. And no, thomas, i ain't bringin the other one.
I just caught up on this thread. Kent ain't coming? What the heck? More important, what about the fish? Can he just send the fish? That would make it better. I might have to bring up a rifle that fits the vintage of some that will be there. a 1855 maynard springfield. And no, thomas, i ain't bringin the other one.
That will be fun to see. Do we get to shoot it as well? I have not fired a big bore (i.e. bigger than my 54 Cal Lyman, 62-72 cal) blackpowder rifle in ages.
Light? What's light. I live on the Olympic Peninsula where it rains every day. You are the one who lives in Central Oregon where the sun shines 350 days a year.
That works! Just leave the stilettos to Patty, Miss Lynn, and the other ladies, PLEASE!
Ed
Crikey, If I am blessed enough to make it to the gathering, I will have my Tony Lama's and a pair each of my hiking, Nike's and Chippewa flying boots. Sorry, I will leave the stilettos behind. That is all I need to do , bust an ankle or torque my poor knees worse than they are now... I can picture being unceremoniously dumped on my behind upon firing any number of large bore rifles in such foot squabs.
I am up for a catwalk side seat for a Quemado fashion show though... Also, I am first to offer my services as a judge, of decorum and general chicanery for any impromptu such event.
While I do not tote or wield a whip (handcuffs safely stashed away in a secret place), I have been accused of a possessing occasional rapier like wit and I am a self proclaimed good judge of bad whiskey and somewhat of a legend in my own mind on matters of geometry, symmetry and taste and matters of the non-sensical...
To catch up any that care to read on:
Just today returned from a overly packed sojourn (and thusly fort he moment deleted trip to central Va which may likely happen on a trip to a concert I am going to in Cincy, Oh in late summer) to SW Fl today and am most giddy at the prospect of a "power sleep" tonight after "power driving" from SW fl to NW Ar in one swoop. Wonderful what a gutload of turbo coffee can do for stamina. Now the fatigue and healthy serving of Evan Walker and OJ is beckoning me to the land of snore.
Amazing how a couple good audio books and an Ipod stuffed with my faves eats the miles by clumps of hundreds, 2-400 miles in 1 sitting. Heck after NOLA last night around IIRC 7pm EST, I listened to the better part of a 10 album compilation I had programmed for my bike rides of my favorite singer/songwriter.
The '09 CRV averaged over 28 mpg (right at to a tiny smidgeon above 30 MPG on the highway at 68-70 on cruise with the first 3 tanks supplimented with about 4 oz per tank of acetone for fuel nozzle cleaning) over 3500+ miles (measured) including the real estate tours and at a magnificent a B-day party at my dearest friend in Wings South Airpark in Naples, Punta Gorda, Ft Myers and Venice, Fl. from NW AArghkansas for any interested in such stuff.
Great WX on the trip till the return leg through Memphis (there was 1 day of on and off rain in the Punta Gorda/Charlotte County, Fl area and my profound apologies to TLee for for not stopping in, I may well return in a few months for an attempt on a deal we are considering for a slab of dirt with seawall there in the coming months and will bring extra ammo if that happens as penance for our overly burdened recent schedule) to about 60 Mi west on 40 as the rain was being horizontally as well as on the vertical plane driven hard enough that my spidey sense was searching for funnel clouds in the amazingly frequent vivid and brilliant lightening strikes over the course of more than an hour.
Racing the moon from early last evening to nearly dawn was SPECTACULAR, tearfully so, as it shown its beauty all through Louisiana, Mississippi (has anyone else noticed the absolutely intoxicating, faintly cedar tinged scent crossing into Mississippi from Louisiana on I-55 Nin late May-early June?) and then it was a fixture in my windshield between storm cells in Arkansas and after the storm finally broke before Little Rock.
One must savor such perfect drives with ones love softly slumbering alongside and wondrous sounds of joy issuing forth from such the tiny B&O ear-bob speakers so as not to disturb another's well deserved slumber, all the while being in mesmerized and completely in awe of the supreme power of Mom nature as the storms and cloud to cloud lightening build many miles in the distance...
Such a fine road trip does wonders at re-centering a slightly adrift core of being.
Sounds like she's willing to make up for it later, though!
Glad to hear you made it back home safe and sound, Patty!
We will have a number of folks there capable of chicanery, mopery with intent to gawk, and general tomfoolery, so your abilities as an impartial judge will be greatly appreciated!
Glad to hear the Gathering is still on your schedule.
Scott, yes, wear your kilt, sans underpinnings, and do some somersaults - Jon will wear his pink plaid shirt and aqua toe shoes - Mark will wear his lavender gauzy prom dress - and all of the above will set the avant garde Campfire style. The remainder of us will wear cameras.
Wear under it? Why wearing something under it is out of the question
With that.... Lets all take a moment to bow our heads and pray for calm winds during the shin dig....
The word 'Fervently' seems appropriate...
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Isn't The Poobah going to grace our Gathering with his presence?
Ed
Well, if he is I may have to make the shin'dig no matter what... wonder if I hang a bottle of Makers to a really long stick and wave it, it'll bait him in from Montana...
BTW, Patty called me and apologized too boot. But I do understand her getting busy, BTDT. We will catch up with one another next time around, heck they might become neighbors one day even.
Kath and I were just out bumming around spending the day out and about.
Kind of a stupid question (the only truly stupid question being the one you do not ask for what ever reason) but as I am a bit of a 'tard I reckon it is ok. How much ammo are YOU bringing to Quemado this year?
Please feel free to enlighten me by firearm and totals. I don't want to be overly embarrassed with a paltry ammo supply for the rifle(s) and pistol(s) I might bring... If I can pull this off I hope to bring a couple of each to share if I can scrounge components in 30 cal (perhaps 45-70 if I have enough) and for 45 acp. Also will bring a pile of 22lr if appropriate.
Thanx for the input and be safe to all. Enjoy the week... Patty
If I get to come, and right now it is kinda doubtful (details to follow about some new big hurdles) I would not really bring that much in the way of guns and ammo. One or two guns for show and tell including the 416 Rigby, but I would rather visit and get to know people than shoot for a long time and everyone have to wear ear muffs. I can shoot here, I cannot meet 24hrcf members form all parts and visit with them here in Walla Walla. My take on the whole thing, anyway.
Visiting and eating and yakking will be my focus, others may have other priorities which is of course just fine.
Hi Patty. I will give your question a try, although the answer is a mixed bag. Others should, and will, feel free to correct anything I get wrong.
Some folks will bring enough to enjoy their firearms for a while and also for interested others to have a go with their guns. Maybe 40 - 50 rounds per, maybe more. Shooting a few rounds through other folks interesting guns is a big part of the fun.
For example, if I get my prep done, will try to bring one or two TC handguns and maybe 40/50 rounds to shoot and share, one or two rifles that someone may find a little offbeat and interesting with similar amount of rounds and maybe one revolver or semi-auto handgun and some rounds. If I happen to find any cheap, will bring some spare ammo for others - stuff I am not likely to shoot.
I did not see anyone bring a big sack full of any loads to the two most recent SW gatherings. Although the fun shooting - and the related comments - compliments on guns, bragging, cameraderie and nice competition - is one centerpiece, we do not shoot for all that long. In other words, it has not been "shoot, shoot, shoot" to the exclusion of other activities. If we happen to be able to set up camp at a place where we can just stroll out into the forest and shoot at any time, there will more informal shooting going on at times.
The bigger part of the time is given to meeting and enjoying new folks, putting faces to the Campfire screen names, getting to appreciate what makes people tick and write the way they do, learning new stuff about lots of things, good natured arguing/story-telling/poking fun, etc. And, EATING. Somehow, the food is always varied and good, and we spend some time dealing with it.
There very well be some who will not bring - or shoot - one firearm - and probably no one will notice - or care. Simply, there is no pressure. People just like to share their interesting things - and enjoy the stuff of others. So, no worries - don't get worked up trying to load a boatlad of rounds. Just bring what feels good for you - and you will fit right in with this gang.
Hoping I got this right. Looking forward to meeting you soon.
Dont get overly excited about ammo and guns. Bring a couple to shoot. I'll bring 1 or 2 rifles and a pistol.
As said before, its more of a jaw jacking session.
Paul/Doc How's the fire affecting you guys down there? I heard it was pretty close to Apache Creek, but its moving to the southwest?? Hope we start getting some rains by the beginning of July to curb this mess.
I am planning on bringing too many guns which seems to be the usual for me. I'll have my Contender with two barrels 7-30 Waters & .45-70 I am bringing my Taurus Raging Hornet, my Single Six for my son to shoot, and also likely my Reeder Blackhawk. I might tote my .223AI along as well. Anyone who wants to is certainly more than welcome to shoot whatever I have of course.
The loads I am bringing for that are much more sedate this go-round. Regular old trapdoor level 405gr cast flat nose.
Those leverevolutions were just downright violent. Its was like it was trying to twist the gun from your grip. I will never shoot those again. They were worse than my 420gr hard cast handloads even.... I wish I would have chrono'ed them though. Hornady says those 325gr FTX run 2150fps from a 20" barrel. Its would be interesting to see what they did from my 11".
Hey Jon - good news - sure looking forward to seeing you again. And, let's face it - this group needs an infusion of YOUTH.
The fire - %&^%#$^&* - a bad mess. Over 1200 fighters, still not half contained and reaching for 300,000 acres - much of it that beautiful wildrness. It is about 35 miles south of me - about 55 south of Ken - and our only effects (other than emotional) have been some smoky days/nights. Fortunately for us and for those little communities just to the west of the conflagration, the prevailing winds have been mostly eastward and some toward the NE. So, our smoke effects have been minimized.
� Paul/Doc How's the fire affecting you guys down there? I heard it was pretty close to Apache Creek, but its moving to the southwest? �
Never was close to Apache Creek, which is NE of Reserve. Fire is some distance SE of Reserve, NNW of Silver City. Problem here, at times, has been an occasional smidgen of smoke. Blue skies here most days.
But we still need rain. Some of us are old enough to remember rain, but we'd like for the kids to see what it's like.
It would be fun to have something big to shoot at to check out pentration of various firearms and projectiles. Maybe a really big stump that we could later cut up to look for bullet trails, or maybe a foriegn car of some kind
It would be fun to have something big to shoot at to check out pentration of various firearms and projectiles. Maybe a really big stump that we could later cut up to look for bullet trails, or maybe a foriegn car of some kind
It would be fun to have something big to shoot at to check out pentration of various firearms and projectiles. Maybe a really big stump that we could later cut up to look for bullet trails, or maybe a foriegn car of some kind
It would be fun to have something big to shoot at to check out pentration of various firearms and projectiles. Maybe a really big stump that we could later cut up to look for bullet trails, or maybe a foriegn car of some kind
well Mark it would be a pleasure to meet you - if you can make it, and bring the Rigby, I'll chip in a box of factory ammo for it
It would be fun to have something big to shoot at to check out pentration of various firearms and projectiles. Maybe a really big stump that we could later cut up to look for bullet trails, or maybe a foriegn car of some kind
well Mark it would be a pleasure to meet you - if you can make it, and bring the Rigby, I'll chip in a box of factory ammo for it
If I do, and you did, it would be the first factory ammo ever fired through that rifle. I am not sure it will know what to DO with one of those!
You do know, that doing so is likely going to run you about $200.00 +/-....
No real need, though the offer is appreciated. I have about 200 rounds of Norma cases and still have a pretty good supply of bullets to load. Probably have 50 or so loaded with 350gr TSX's at 2750 that I want (others!)to shoot up so I can re load them with the new TIPPED 350gr Triple Shocks.
I am supposing that 2,000+lb Eland and Moose and Cape buffalo are in kinds short supply down there of late so we will have to improvise.
It would be fun to have something big to shoot at to check out pentration of various firearms and projectiles. Maybe a really big stump that we could later cut up to look for bullet trails, or maybe a foriegn car of some kind
It would be fun to have something big to shoot at to check out pentration of various firearms and projectiles. Maybe a really big stump that we could later cut up to look for bullet trails, or maybe a foriegn car of some kind
well Mark it would be a pleasure to meet you - if you can make it, and bring the Rigby, I'll chip in a box of factory ammo for it
To help with planing and prep for the gathering, we need to ID the participants. So, if you expect to be with us for any of the weekend of July 13-15, please send me a PM to note that. As possible, please try to ID your arrival date/time in case we need some front-end help.
If you are trying to make it and are still a "maybe" just let us know that for the "tentative" list - and we will keep you in the info loop as well.
From here forward, we will communicate specifics and personal details through PMs. Be looking for some big group PMs along the way.
I DO happen to have some original, full-house, steel jacket solids...
When I owned that rifle, I often said that I'd love to see what its full-bore factory solids'd do to an ATV that was tearing-up ground in the wild high country.
"Why, Ken!" my friends said, "you know what they'd do!"
"I didn't say," I reminded 'em, "that I'd like to FIND OUT what they'd do. I said that I'd like to SEE what they'd do."
I just posted, in the general Campfire (WITH permission of course) the reason why it may be hard for us to come down. My wife, Sherri just got diagnosed with Breast Cancer. Prayers appreciated.
thanks to both of you. We are looking at Cancer specializing treatment centers today and trying to decide on one. The timetable and costs for all of this will have a lot of bearing on whether we can make this trip.
Nor ours. Looking a little better for being able to come, the Cnacer Treatment Centers of America facility where we are headed uses a newer one dose radiation treatment much of the time. If Sherri can get that (meaning it is suitable for her once they get the cancer removed) then I just have to worry about the gas cash after spending money getting us to Illinois and back for her treatment plus deductables, co pays etc. but we will worry about that, when the time comes. Thanks all for your prayers.
then I just have to worry about the gas cash after spending money getting us to Illinois and back for her treatment plus deductables, co pays etc.
I hope that everything works out for you and her on the cancer part of this, but as far as the gas to come to the shindig, I will chip in some gas money. Prayers for her, and you. miles
then I just have to worry about the gas cash after spending money getting us to Illinois and back for her treatment plus deductables, co pays etc.
I hope that everything works out for you and her on the cancer part of this, but as far as the gas to come to the shindig, I will chip in some gas money. Prayers for her, and you. miles
I will, too � and I bet that Miles and I won't be the only ones.
In fact, I hope that we can gin-up a right good-sized special travel fund for folks who have a greater need for gas money than the rest of us do. After all, it's in our interest as much as yours to have you with us. I get just $750 a month, but I don't have to go anywhere to be here, and I don't have to go very far to go to the lake. I don't have any specific figure in mind, but there'll be something.
I really was not fishing for donations. I would rather sell off some more guns, and probably will so as to be able to come so long as Sherri will be OK in the Dr's minds with the single dose radiation after Surgery. We won't know until we get there and the docs see all of what is inside.
The money will be there if we are to come, even if I have to peddle a couple more guns due to the unforseen expense now arriving upon us. It'll be OK.
Much thanks to all, anyway, and we mean that form the bottom of our hearts.
I never even considered that. In fact, if I had thought that, I would not have offered, but the offer still stands. Friends help friends out. There are several on here that I consider friends that I have never met. miles
Mark, "The Warden" and I are in Zion, as we speak! My opinion - you chose well! We are back for a check-up, her bout with breast cancer was 2 years ago. She is doing well, and I hope your results are as good. If I can help you, in any way, let me know! I'll PM you my phone #, and my wife's #. Prayers for, and best wishes to you both from a couple who's BTDT! Mark
Thanks everyone. Before I got sick I was earning very high commisions for decades, paying my ex an alimony payment that exceeded what many people earn here in this valley as a full time wage, and traveling all over the world to see sights and hunt the dangerous game this planet offers. And, buying guns and other toys at will. Very hard sometimes to accept my new reality, or to accept help from others even though I was often first in line to help others myself when I could.
We shall see if Sherri's treatment is sussessful enough and over with in time for us to come down, then go from there. There is still a gun or two that I can turn loose of if I must even if I prefer not to have to do so. More info to follow after we travel to Illinois to the Cnacer Treatment Centers of America later this month. Air travel is being arrainged today. I will report from there as I have news.
Her care, treatment and healing are about my only focus right now, and I am sure you all understand.
Mark, "The Warden" and I are in Zion, as we speak! My opinion - you chose well! We are back for a check-up, her bout with breast cancer was 2 years ago. She is doing well, and I hope your results are as good. If I can help you, in any way, let me know! I'll PM you my phone #, and my wife's #. Prayers for, and best wishes to you both from a couple who's BTDT! Mark
WOW, that is fantastic! We will look forward to gettingthose numbers and getting in touch with you ASAP!
Again as I am fixin' to lay my head down, my prayers and best wishes go out to you both.
Been between a rock and a hard place for a spell and have been moved to just be tougher than either. Heres added prayers for the same to you both in your time of need.
I just read both of these responses and several others previous in this thread to my beautiful wifey. She is encouraged by them and all of the support shown to both of us during our times of trials lately. She is more motiated than ever to help me make this trip (she will have to help me drive as my chronic pain levels do not allow me to drive straight through long stretches anymore) and said to me last night that so long as she does not need ongoing treatment that lasts into and through the middle of July we are coming. I told her that I will sacrifice whatever firearms I need to in order to make the trip as well, above and beyond my guns bought on speculation intended to be for profit gunflips. NOW she is worried about living up to everyone's expectations about how cute and wonderful I have told you all she is! I told her not to worry, that she only needs to show up and be herself and she will be fine, and that I have not said anything that was not the absolute truth.
And I have NOT and did NOT post any photos of her..... RIGHT???? Yeah, that is what I thought. NONE of you has EVER seen a picture of her...... really.
We Don't want to ruin someone's vacation, especially not MINE, correct? or see me get shot on the spot and make a mess in Kens yard. Safariman guts all over the place from Sherri's Colt Cobra...... <G>
Has everyone who is planning to be in Quemado PM'ed CCCC already? We should be close to starting a PM thread for all who coming so we can iron out details.
Also a reminder here. Let's all pray for some rain between now and then.
Thanks, Thomas. A number of great responses so far.
Before week's end will repeat post of the message about letting us know with PM. Then, next week will PM all who are 'yes" or "maybe" to get irons on the details.
Yes - pray - it has been dry as an old dinosaur bone up here, no rain in sight, and the forest restrictions have already begun. Of course, that 300,000 acre Whitewater/Baldy fire 30 miles south of here has affected some thinking.
For sure we can make it all happen well even withiot rain, but it will will be so much nicer and more easily fun after some moisture.
It would be fun to have something big to shoot at to check out pentration of various firearms and projectiles. Maybe a really big stump that we could later cut up to look for bullet trails, or maybe a foriegn car of some kind
you have given me a thought if i have time to do it. I had to restock a cz550 in .375H&H due to the wood cracking on the original, cz would not take care of it, and put on a fiberglass stock. I also have a supply of 300grain FMJ bullets. Those ought to penetrate something. I will have to see if i can get some loaded. it needs to be sighted in
I would not be surprsed if it won out over the 416 and the 458 in a pure penetration test.
I sent more than a few guys over to Zim for Elephant or Buff with nothing more than a 375, and they killed some monsters. It is even still well represented among PH's over there, and the CZ is one of the most popurar formats if not THE most popular.
The big bore double gun is much sought after there, but they are expensive and a bolt action 375 is still very common, and very well thought of.
OK - for those who may have missed it about a week ago - or those who have not yet replied - this is our repeat call to get on the initial list of participants and receive follow-up PMs.
Follow-up PMs will start next week.
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: OK, TIME TO GET THIS TIGHTENED UP A BIT.
To help with planing and prep for the gathering, we need to ID the participants. So, if you expect to be with us for any of the weekend of July 13-15, please send me a PM to note that. As possible, please try to ID your arrival date/time in case we need some front-end help.
If you are trying to make it and are still a "maybe" just let us know that for the "tentative" list - and we will keep you in the info loop as well.
From here forward, we will communicate specifics and personal details through PMs. Be looking for some big group PMs along the way.
Hope you have a fine evening knowing you are an evil person (for posting the Blem bullet hyperlink (:->) )
Seriously, thanx for the post, I need some slugs for the SIL's B-day (and mine/today) in 30/30, also for my 44 mag and 30-06 and Marvin the wonder rifle (30-30). Sure do appreciate the post.
Paul, I am going to try and make it. The wife has been working out of town, so I can't guarantee I will be there. It depends on her schedule. Thanks KDJ
Enough yesterday to leave the eave gutter pouring and puddles in the street.
Paul (CCCC) is a lot closer to the lake and at a higher elevation than I am. The situation there might be significantly different, but at least we're getting a bit of rain in the area now 'n' then.
Sorry I couldn't make it. A little setback with knee replacement due to overtraining vetoed the scooter ride out there. Was looking forward to meeting some of you guys.
Well, the forest is once again quiet although more than a bit heavier with lead, the coatimundis are scurrying around looking for action, the campsite is clean and all of the guys who made this weekend great are on their way or maybe even home. Travel safely, especially to those who will drive for a couple of days.
This was one fine group even though a few excellent folks and proven veterans were not able to get to the event as intended. Even in the big enjoyment, we missed them noticeably.
Will offer no opinions, analysis or overview - leaving that to those who traveled from near and far. Was way too busy to use a camera, but others did well and some memorable photos should appear soon.
Maybe time to start a NEW thread which reports on the gathering.
Paul, we should start a new thread for the photos. No point in wading through all these pages.
I made it home with only a a shower in Showlow only to find that we were nearly flooded out at the house. My rain gauge showed 2"+ which was sorely needed!
Drive home was without fanfare, hope everyone else made/makes it home safely. Some of you folks drove a long ways!
Stephen and I made it home just fine. We got on heck of hose down in the grasslands before Springerville. We got some pretty decent storm pics that navigator/photographer took. :grin;:
We had a great trip as expected, and I want thank all you guys for being SO good to Stephen. It was really great, and he loved meeting you all. He hasn't stopped telling Brandy about HIS new friends.
Thanks again guys! I will get some picsnup tomorrow, but I don't have any from around camp.
I see that Dennis has started the "wrap up" post - good. Let's get on there and put up some great photos. I was so durn busy - did not take a single photo. Thanks guys. I'm leaving this sticky - has been a good one.
Stephen and I made it home just fine. We got on heck of hose down in the grasslands before Springerville. We got some pretty decent storm pics that navigator/photographer took. :grin;:
We had a great trip as expected, and I want thank all you guys for being SO good to Stephen. It was really great, and he loved meeting you all. He hasn't stopped telling Brandy about HIS new friends.
Thanks again guys! I will get some picsnup tomorrow, but I don't have any from around camp.
Tom,
It was great to see you again, and a real treat to meet your son.
You are doing a great job raising him and it shows! He (and you ) are welcome at any camp I'm at.
Thanks Ed! I am really proud of my kids, and its always to hear good things about them. On the pulled pork.. like I said I like to cook and its always a pleasure to do it for friends and family
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I've already suffered through two nights of nightmares from the visual that Mark gave me by posting that! 
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