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Posted By: Penguin Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/18/11
Time to get off the home range for a spell.

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No I can't guarantee you'll look as charming as Miss Andrews when she tried on the Mountie hat... but you may have a bit of fun stepping out of the normal hunting grounds of Penguin's Pick'em.

My man John (5sdad) has reached deep into his bag of tricks and came out with some whoppers this week. As most of you are well aware, John is a true college football aficionado. He likes to step out and watch the players and teams that deserve to be watched because they play an interesting and good game. Numbers, as in rankings, don't mean much to a man like that.

Trouble is so many of us get in the rut of watching our own teams or maybe them plus a high powered matchup that we can get stumped when we are faced with your occasional MAC or Conference USA matchup. We'll see whether this ace he pulled out of his sleeve pays off.

Either way we'll have fun keeping up with some teams that we may not have noticed otherwise.

Week #8- Games List:

1) Penn St. @ Northwestern
2) Utah @ California
3) Oregon St. @ Washington State
4) Central Mich @ Ball State
5) UL Monroe @ North Texas
6) SMU @ Southern Miss
7) Louisiana Tech @ Utah State
8) Auburn @ LSU
9) Washington @ Stanford + total points tie breaker
10) Wisconsin @ Michigan State


Good luck,
Will
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/18/11
4) Central Mich @ Ball State
5) UL Monroe @ North Texas
6) SMU @ Southern Miss
7) Louisiana Tech @ Utah State

Did you two get into grandpa's cough medicine?
Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/18/11
Yeah, John's got me scratching my head too. He ain't getting me without a fight though! lol

I wanted to get these posted on monday so that no one would accuse me of sitting on them until later so I would have a day or two more to get my homework done. I'm having to do some digging myownself.

We usually have a week or so every season where the mid majors get some action. Ashamed to admit I don't keep up with them as much as I should... especially since it looks like WVU may be joining their ranks if this conference shakeup thing doesn't turn around. :p

Will
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/18/11
I like it. I need 5 points and this might just be the only way to get. Also, guessing we'll all have about 6 ESPN Game-cast windows open at the same time as not likely that all are televised. wink

Great intro Will!

David
Posted By: 257_Roy Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
I live in MAC Country and still don't have a clue where most of these teams are in location and aptitude. I too love the game, but since I am unwilling to spend 8K a year to get the satellite needed to watch EVERY single CFB game,(I have to settle for 30ish games a week, dangit!) I'm going to have to do more research than normal. Most weeks I have a good feel for most of the games and only really research one or maybe two.

The only thing going for me is that Pitt (damn you to eternal fire you bunch of former porn-staches and current bunch of Graham Crackers!) isn't on the board to give me an automatic loss, so I have a shot.
You Bastard tuff games...but men and boys will be seperated...At Saturdays end will I be drinking a beer or chocolate milk with a straw???
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
I don't know if they're tough games yet. At least I get to do some research instead of flipping a coin....well,maybe,that is!

Good grief,5sdad! Will 6 of these games even be on TV or mentioned on ESPN's scoreboard?
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
I've held my usual number of weekly Penguin conference calls and met with all the consultants. My staff is now telling me that many of these schools will makeup the new super conference. Others will round out the Big East. Still looking into it but I think a couple are high schools making the leap.

I'll keep you posted as I learn more. I might need to enlist the special services of Bambi to complete my review.
wowza, this may give Sassy the edge she was looking for.


shouldn't there be bonus points for all involved if you can guess correctly what state some of these schools are in?
Posted By: Sassy Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
With this lineup I'm planning on another 10-0 week. Sorry guys laugh
Posted By: 257_Roy Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
Ok, here goes nuthin!

1. Penn State 27 Northwestern 17-Seeing Penn State as only 3.5 point favorites kinda gives me the creeps. Penn State is 6-1 and Northwestern is 2-4. If Northwestern couldn't get by Iowon't, they damn sure won't get by Joe Pa's boys (Great, Great, Great Grandchildren?!?). Northwestern is not a gimme with their starting QB back, but they dang sure aren't contenders either.

2. Cal 35 Utah 21-So what Utah, you beat Pitt. You would have lost that game if I would have picked you to win. Amazing how a man in Ohio can influence a game in Pennsylvania like that, such is the power of my Pitt Hex.

3. Oregon State 28 Washington State 24-Sheesh, what a bunch of bottom feeders to pick from this week. Oregon State always seems to start slow and finish strong(ish). This year they are setting a personal best for slow starts. Washington State is somewhat of a surprise at 3-3, but look at their wins. Whoop-tee-doo.

4. Ball State 12 Central Michigan 8-When you lose to Eastern Michigan at home, you tend to lose my faith in your ability to even show up on time for a football game. Neither of these teams are likely to be playing in the MNC game this year (or ever), but what the hell happened to Central Michigan? Since they lost their coach(es) to Cincy and their version of Tebow, they went downhill fast. Ahh, such is the life and times of a MAC school. See a little success, lose your coach. Then hire an untested dude since that's all you can get and take your chances on that. That's why there is rarely a perennial power in these type of conferences. If they are good they move on.

5. UL Monroe 17 North Texas 14-I freely admit that I'm picking this game based solely on the line. After thorough research I was left scratching my head. These two teams do not have a common opponent, nor a comparable schedule yet. They were both annihilated when they played a decent team, but even this is misleading since you don't know when the other team took their foot off the gas. Who knows? We'll have to side with Vegas on this one.

6. SMU 38 Southern Miss 27-I always check out the Vegas line AFTER analysis. I really don't see how Southern Miss is a 3.5 point favorite?!? Other than home field advantage, which how much does 8-10K fans influence a game anyways, I can't really see Southern Miss keeping up with SMU. I've played in High School games with more fans than some of these MAC and Sun Belt games attract. Am I missing something?

7. Utah State 24 Whatever other team they are playing that I'm too lazy to pull up my other browser to look up again 17-Again, after much head scratching and consternation Vegas is going to be my deciding factor. Plus, any team that can hang with the defending MNC winner in the season opener is alright in my book. They had a Buckeyes in Lincoln like meltdown or they woulda spanked da War Iggles. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but didn't.

8. LSU 42 War Iggles 13-Finally, back to the real world after taking a trip like Alice in Wonderland for the past 5ish games. LSU is The Real Deal this season. Their game with Bama should determine half of the MNC picture. Even with last seasons magic I wouldn't give Auburn more than a 1 in 25 chance of winning this game. In fact, I'll go as far as stating that this years LSU (or Bama) would spank last years Auburn 8 out of ten times. I'd give LSU even odds against the Miami Dolphins right now. LSU looks like a pro team. They have the biggest, fastest, most physical defense that I can remember seeing in CFB in a long time. That, AND they have the Honey Badger. He's just Nasty smile

9. Stanford 42 Washington 21-Total Points 63 Stanford will drop two games in the regular season. This is not one of them. They WILL lose to Oregon and Notre Dame (I just puked a little, but it's true). They aren't as good as they were last year, Andrew Luck is for real, but he is basically it. With "The Handshake" gone as their coach, they are not the same. As an aside, I absolutely loved Jimmy H's post game interview after "The Handshake". That was the most subtly smart-assed interview that I've ever seen. "It was totally my fault. I smacked his hand, hard. That's on me. Totally". He forgot to add, "By the way, we kicked their ass and their coach is a douche-bag," but his tone implied it. I think when it's all said and done, he will be one of the best coaches to ever coach the game. He turned Stanford from a team that was 30+ point underdogs any time they played a good team to a very respected program. I know it's early in his NFL career, but I just don't see him falling off. I wish to hell the Browns woulda had a shot at him. We might actually have mattered again.

10. Wisconsin 35 Michigan State 17-Wisconsin should be chafing at being 6th in the BCS. After watching all the top teams thus far, I think that LSU, Bama, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin are by far the top 4 teams in CFB this season. I'd love to see all 4 of these teams play each other as right now I don't see any difference in them, with the possible exception that Oklahoma might be just a hair weaker than the others. Boise State is tough, but I think that they would get mauled if they were to play any of these teams this season, with the exception of them being able to prepare for 6 weeks for the game. If they were to play them all in successive weeks, I doubt they would go 1-3. Of course, Wisconsin has no one to blame but themselves after failing to beat TCU in the Rose Bowl last year, so doubts about them just may keep them out of the MNC game. With the obvious out there that I see the world through Scarlet and Gray colored lenses, I see next week as more of a trap game for Wisconsin then this week. Wisconsin will be out for revenge after last year with their only loss coming to a Michigan State team that they should have beat. Ohio State will be out for revenge next week as well as I feel they had a better team then Wisconsin last year and likely would have played for and won a MNC (yes that's right) if they coulda thrown out the 1st quarter of the Wisconsin game. They would have played Auburn in the MNC if it wasn't for that quarter and they had a much better team overall than Auburn did last year. Ohio State was just as dangerous on offense and much better on defense. The would have got in over Oregon too since they soundly beat essentially the same Oregon team in the Rose Bowl the previous year. At any rate, Wisconsin better show up ready to play their second tough game on the road in a row next week. Ohio State is pretty predatory on defense, they just haven't found an offense to speak of yet. I still think that Wisconsin will probably win that game, just don't think that it is as sure of a thing as it looks like on paper. Plus OSU has two weeks to prepare, rest up a little, and hopefully find something that at least resembles an offense.
Posted By: 257_Roy Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
After close study (well 20 seconds or so anyways), this week should go to the winner of the tie-breaker. I can see a lot of similar picks. Plus I post mine for all to see, and let's face it, who wouldn't want to copy them?

As I'm sure Penguin would attest to, there is no subterfuge or deception going on with my picks. What I post on this board is exactly what I post on the pick website. So basically, I leave it open for you guys (and gal(s?)) to copy my greatness if you so choose.
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
What I post on this board is exactly what I post on the pick website. So basically, I leave it open for you guys (and gal(s?)) to copy my greatness if you so choose.
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Thanks but I prefer the top of the pool rankings.
Impossible to log onto the site, so this'll have to work.

1) Penn State
2) Utah
3) Oregon State
4) Ball State
5) UL-Monroe
6) SMU
7) Utah State
8) LSU
9) Stanford, 67 points
10) Wisconsin
Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
You need me to add your score to the automated pick'em site?

We have the technology. :p

Will
Sean says Bob and I can make his picks for the next two weeks, he is out in the wilderness in Colorado, can ya help us out here will. wink I just saw him off this morning, on his way to Leadville for some Elk fun in the mountains.
Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
Yeah, sure.

The way the site works I can go in and retroactively give someone a final score, which I did once for Cajunblake. Not sure if I can add them ahead of time, but I don't think so.

So long as his picks are posted in the thread ahead of time and you guys post them there shouldn't be a problem from anyone. Like this week he is on record with it ahead of time so no one has a gripe coming. Might want to also shoot me a PM in case I miss them.

Will
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
I need for someone else to make my picks as well. **sigh**
Originally Posted by Penguin
Yeah, sure.

The way the site works I can go in and retroactively give someone a final score, which I did once for Cajunblake. Not sure if I can add them ahead of time, but I don't think so.

So long as his picks are posted in the thread ahead of time and you guys post them there shouldn't be a problem from anyone. Like this week he is on record with it ahead of time so no one has a gripe coming. Might want to also shoot me a PM in case I miss them.

Will


He will be out of contact next week, unless they score over the weekend. wink
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
Originally Posted by isaac
I don't know if they're tough games yet. At least I get to do some research instead of flipping a coin....well,maybe,that is!

Good grief,5sdad! Will 6 of these games even be on TV or mentioned on ESPN's scoreboard?


I doubt that they will be on ESPN's scoreboard. I get so pissed off at them when they run the TOP 25 scores over and frickin' over, even though everyone has either watched those games or seen the outcome fifty million times already but only run the non-top 25 scores one time and one time only for the whole damn day. (They even run the I-AA scores more often than that!)
Uh Oh....wonder what for..? Anybody..?

[b][color:#3333FF]LSU suspends Mathieu, Simon, Ware[/color][/b]

BATON ROUGE, La. -- Top-ranked LSU has suspended star cornerback Tyrann Mathieu and running back Spencer Ware for Saturday's home game against Auburn, a school official told ESPN.com's Mark Schlabach.

A source told the Associated Press that defensive back Tharold Simon is also suspended.

Mathieu has forced four fumbles, recovering three and returning two for scores. He also has two interceptions and 42 tackles including 1� sacks.

Ware is the leading rusher for unbeaten LSU with 512 yards and six touchdowns. He also has caught seven passes, including one for a touchdown. He had two touchdown in last week's win over Tennessee -- one rushing and one as a receiver.

Simon has one interception and 29 tackles.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
Probably were spending too much time on academics.
Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
~snort~

Bwahahahaha! A common problem with our athletes in this country isn't it John?

Will
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
LSU suspends Mathieu, Simon, Ware
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That hurts!
Here is a hint. The honey badger tokes what he wants.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
Originally Posted by isaac
LSU suspends Mathieu, Simon, Ware
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That hurts!


Yup! Told ya'll last week that injuries and suspensions would play an even bigger part than who beats whom.

"The Reveille reports the suspension could be extended for other games."
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
Being two down,this begins the time when I try to pick some upsets to chip away at the leader. There are 3 potential upsets and I'm going back and forth trying to figure out which ones are the most possible.

I think 3 of 5sdad's picks are JV games!
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
HA! I went into that mode 3 weeks ago. Big question here is whether you're now playing for the cash or the Penguin bragging rights.

That mulligan really screws me up (rather down), so I'm now ignoring it.
Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by isaac
LSU suspends Mathieu, Simon, Ware
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That hurts!


Yup! Told ya'll last week that injuries and suspensions would play an even bigger part than who beats whom.

"The Reveille reports the suspension could be extended for other games."



whoa....just read that online....what a bunch of terminal dumbasses. I can't believe they're that freaking stupid with a national championship potentially on the line. Won't matter against Auburn, but if they're not back for Alabama, it sure changes the caluculus.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
Yeah I figured no big deal for the AUB game as well but longer term maybe not so good.

I'm waiting for the Bama shoe to drop now. Betting every coach is dropping the hammer on their players right about now. I know Dabo is.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
As long as we are willing to let athletic skill trump character in determining who represents schools on the field, this is what we'll have.
Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by isaac
LSU suspends Mathieu, Simon, Ware
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That hurts!


Yup! Told ya'll last week that injuries and suspensions would play an even bigger part than who beats whom.

"The Reveille reports the suspension could be extended for other games."

Talking about suspensions and what hurts: Miami senior defensive tackle Micanor Regis has been suspended

This reminds me of the Aggie Tony Jerod Eddie when he pinched a Nebraska player in the dogpile. Micanor Regis apologizes in the article. I'm sure it's only because he got caught. Aside from the stupidity of trying stuff like this with all the cameras and youtube today, you just have to wonder why anyone would stoop to such dirty pull to begin with.


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Posted By: 5sdad Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
See above.
Posted By: FC363 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
And another week with Cal on the schedule...... eek
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/19/11
California has not made my list yet. BUT:

a school in Utah and Texas that I didn't even know existed. Therefore, no matter how I pick there's 2 losses based on state location. UGH!!
Posted By: 257_Roy Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/20/11
Just when I get ready to jump on the Honey Badgers bandwagon....

I would love to see Les Miles actual IQ score. I wonder if he plays the bumbling fool as a tool to throw off his competition? One thing that I'm sure of, he's a damn fine football coach. He's either really intelligent, or really dumb. If it's all an act with him, he's a genius for pulling that act off. If it's not an act, he must be a supreme motivator.

The ball punching episode with the Miami player is not surprising. That kind of stuff is common place, dude just got caught. I'm not condoning it, just saying that those that haven't played football don't understand the nasty stuff that goes on in a dogpile.

My first football play in a real game ever, a similar event occurred. I was the kicker and also a wedge buster, hell of a combo but I went to a small school. I wasn't the best kicker, just the least worst. I was a damn fine wedge buster though, strong and fast. I kicked the ball down to somewhere around the 10 yard line, flew down the field, flattened a couple of people, then made the tackle inside the 20 yard line. I was fully switched on, our coach ala Les Miles was a good motivator. All of the weight training, hard work, etc was coming to fruition. As I went down and made the tackle at full speed, I really smacked the kick returner. The tackle was good and clean. What came next was not. As a couple more of my teammates piled on, the guy that I tackled screamed some vulgarities about my mom. I then with my left land pushed his face mask up and with my right hand punched him first in the throat and then on the chin, knocking him out cold. Luckily for me the refs missed what occurred and it was assumed that my hit was what knocked him out. Unluckily for me, the game was televised by the local TV Station, which caught my flagrant violation. I was called into the coach's office the next morning at practice (We always practiced at 7:00am the day after a game. Just some light weights and a little jogging, the coach said that it was to work out the soreness from the game. I know realize it was a ploy to keep us from "celebrating" after the game and keep us focused on what really mattered). The coach had a TV set up and said that he had something that he wanted me to watch. When he started the play, I assumed that he was going to congratulate me on the hustle and determination it took on that play. We watched the play and the TV announcer had seen the whole thing and made a comment stating "that kid should not be out there". My coach then informed me that I was suspended from the team until further notice. I was devastated, absolutely crushed. I ended up serving a one game suspension, but I learned a bunch from that mistake. Comments about your lineage are pretty common in football and you need to learn to move past them.

I played in a time when a slobber knocker hit was a good play. Football has since become watered down somewhat IMO. The NFL, while they may be right in protecting their investments, now protects it's players (specifically the QB) to what I consider an excessive level. Some of the hits that I made in my playing days that were perfectly legal and great plays at the time, would now be flagged as personal fouls. It was perfectly legal and often encouraged to hit helmet to helmet, so that's what we did. As long as we didn't lead with the top of our helmet (then a personal foul called "spearing" and really stupid since it risked breaking your neck) we were good to go. Concussions weren't really understood to the level that they are today. There were several games that I played with a mild to moderate concussion. One play on defense that I remember (albeit a little foggily) to this day. I was playing DT and our DE had got to the opposing QB and was kinda holding him up, trying to tackle him but without good leverage. I got by my blocker and saw a golden opportunity to try and smack their QB. I went in for a head shot with my helmet, forehead and facemask, a perfectly legal hit at the time. I aimed for the opposing QB's earhole in his helmet. The DE was by then in the process of taking him down and I missed the QB and hit my DE instead. We both were knocked just about senseless, my DE much worse then me since I was prepared for it. I remember staggering to the sideline with him. When the trainer asked him if he knew where he was, he stated "cheeseburger". Now if that doesn't spell concussion, I don't know what does. I missed a couple of plays and was back in, I think he missed a series or two, but was back in pretty quickly. In todays world, I would've missed the rest of the game and he probably would have been out for a couple of weeks.
Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/21/11
Ah, I can smell it.

A freeby. They are warming up the Carrier Dome and WVU is getting ready to knock some heads. And I don't have to worry about my picks for one night anyway. 'Cuse is a worrisome team. They sneak up and beat WVU when least expected... like last season.

Time to get even. Go 'eers!

Will
Posted By: ring3 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
De-javu so far in the Carrier Dome. eek
Originally Posted by Penguin
Ah, I can smell it.

A freeby. They are warming up the Carrier Dome and WVU is getting ready to knock some heads. And I don't have to worry about my picks for one night anyway. 'Cuse is a worrisome team. They sneak up and beat WVU when least expected... like last season.

Time to get even. Go 'eers!

Will


Glad this wasn't one of the weekly picks. There's no way I would have suspected Syracuse could beat up on WV like they are.
Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Tough to predict an ass kicking like this! Like I said, Syracuse has our number, this new coach they have is putting together a real good bunch.

I'm glad this wasn't on the list too. :p

Will
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Oh my! Clucko scratched out the Sparties to win!
Hope your wrong on the Penn ST vs Northwestern game! Other than that game we have the same picks.

GK
NC goes up on Clemson 7-3.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Originally Posted by Shortmag
Hope your wrong on the Penn ST vs Northwestern game! Other than that game we have the same picks.

GK


NW burned me last week so WTH. Also need a couple of wins so figured the field would all go PSU. 70% of this weeks games I had no clue on.

10-7 Clemson!

BTW you seeing anything in your travels through Whitmire? I've been out to the range and into the forest several times. I'm not even seeing any tracks. SC Sportsman Magazine said Spartanburg/Union County and up your way should provide decent sized deer this season.

I may have to hunt Virginia this year.
Ole Miss up on Ark. 3-0 after the first period. Yikes!

Carolina v. Clemson tied at ten.
Check that ...Rebs now up 10-0 on Hogs and killing them in the stats.

Clemson just scored again..17-10.
wow....boilermakers making Illini their little bishes...21-0
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Yup! This very well could be the weekend for several upsets.

Heels seem to have the Tigers number. It should be 17 all but...
Well, it ain't going to be Clemson. already trailing 31-17, Tarheels commit their fourth TO on the ensuing kickoff, two plays later Clemson punches it in. 38-17...this one's over, time for a channel switch.


Ole Miss still up on Hogs 17-10.
Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Yeah, Clemson laying the leather to UNC. Looks like its over in the 3rd.

Lot of big ones to come yet. Hopefully better than last night's disaster!

Wisconsin/State is the big one. Might end up being part 1 of the B1G title game.

Will
Posted By: NathanL Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
LSU has new funky uniforms on during the warm up today frown

I knew LSU was going to wear the new style for Nike one game this year and apparently this is it.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
59-24 Clemson....they are scoring at will.

Clemson has a lot of offensive weapons for sure.

Looks like the Ball State game is going to be a rout as well. 17-0 in the 2nd.
Anyone watching the Purdue/Illini game, crap, did the Purdue coach have his boys drink cans of whoop ass all night or what? shocked
Looks like Mississippi came out swinging against Arkansas, but the hogs are on top and threatening another score. Seems like Arkansas takes some time to get their machine rolling in games this season.
Really surprised the Cincy vs. S. Florida game wasn't on this weeks picks.

27-24 S. Florida at the start of the 4th qtr.

Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Should this Clemson (yes they play football there) team run the tables (8-0) and win the ACC it will be hard for the BCS not to consider and compute them into BCS-NCG.
Originally Posted by NathanL
LSU has new funky uniforms on during the warm up today frown

I knew LSU was going to wear the new style for Nike one game this year and apparently this is it.



money talks, I guess....but I like LSU's regular, classic uniforms. this gimmicky stuff is, well....gimmicky.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Bob has me sending text scores to his blind. You know I could really get inside the mans head right about now if I had a mind to. Maybe something like AUB-20-LSU 7 and 0-5 in the pool thus far. Hmmmmm--Is that mean!
Arkansas ekes out the win over Mississippi 29-24. It's not the result one would have expected.
Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Yeah, a whole lot of conferences looking for mid-pack strength where there is none. I honestly think you got 2 or 3 great teams, 2 or 3 very good teams and about 90 teams that run the gamut from decent to poor.

I could be wrong though.

Will
Originally Posted by byc
Bob has me sending text scores to his blind. You know I could really get inside the mans head right about now if I had a mind to. Maybe something like AUB-20-LSU 7 and 0-5 in the pool thus far. Hmmmmm--Is that mean!


yes it is....I was mulling the same thing.
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by byc
Bob has me sending text scores to his blind. You know I could really get inside the mans head right about now if I had a mind to. Maybe something like AUB-20-LSU 7 and 0-5 in the pool thus far. Hmmmmm--Is that mean!


yes it is....I was mulling the same thing.


Ya'll ain't got a hair on yer azz! I damn sure would. wink
LSU up on Auburn by 18 points....Bob's spread points are about gone, and there's still a half to play. Yikes...I think that was LPE's big bet for the week.
Posted By: shreck Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Originally Posted by Kamerad_Les
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by byc
Bob has me sending text scores to his blind. You know I could really get inside the mans head right about now if I had a mind to. Maybe something like AUB-20-LSU 7 and 0-5 in the pool thus far. Hmmmmm--Is that mean!


yes it is....I was mulling the same thing.


Ya'll ain't got a hair on yer azz! I damn sure would. wink


No way, tell him he's winning them all! And he got the points exact.
Auburn getting a prison raping...35-3 LSU.
make that 42-3
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Ugh...so much for the spread. At least it was a good day for the SC Tigers!

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just got a text from Bob denying that he bet Auburn....that's good, wouldn't trust him around firearms if he did.

looks like LSU would have covered 50
Posted By: FC363 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Utah St. just boned all but 2 people in the pool. sick
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
The entire state of UTAH will NOW remain and never to be removed on my most hated list of football schools.
Posted By: FC363 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Originally Posted by byc
The entire state of UTAH will NOW remain and never to be removed on my most hated list of football schools.


The woes will continue for one of us, as you picked Cal, and I picked Utah, LOL
Well, at least Nut St. won. Some of these teams we have to suffer through...
Posted By: FC363 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/22/11
Go Mean Green!!!!!! grin
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Go VOLS!!!!!!!
Mich St. came to play. 23-14 @ halftime.
Texas Tech giving Oklahoma whatfor right now too. 14-7 Texas Tech with 10 minutes left in the 2nd Q and Tech in the red zone. Still early in the game yet.
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
That's a TD.

We shall see if the Refs can get this right on replay.
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Called that.
Yep! Whatta game.
Mich St pulls the upset. I'm betting there are some stunned Badger fans tonight.
Posted By: NathanL Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Wisconsin down. Looking like upset day.
Originally Posted by byc
Ugh...so much for the spread. At least it was a good day for the SC Tigers!

[Linked Image]


Tiger Band, the best in the Nation!, what a show our team put on Sat. always good in person.

Now if the team will improve the tackles and special team play, we should be be BCS bound.
Posted By: 257_Roy Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Ahhh, the week of the upset....

The picture just got clearer as to who the best two teams in the nation are, by far. LSU and Bama are head and shoulders above the rest of the field. Their meeting in 2 weeks will almost certainly determine the National Champion. As much as I hate to see it, provided these two teams finish 13-0 and 11-1 and provided the game between them is pretty closely fought, I would have no problem with a rematch of it for the MNC game.

Looking at the other teams, I really didn't expect Wisconsin to lose this season. They probably shouldn't have and on a neutral site they almost certainly wouldn't have. But they did it to themselves, much as Ohio State did last year.

Oklahoma dropped the game that I figured them for. When they click, they are really, really good. They just aren't really, really good every week for whatever reason. Probably coaching. Another Big 12 team with a great offense and a so-so defense. You can't give up 41 and expect your offense to keep up with that every game.

Oklahoma State will drop a game or two as well. If they are undefeated going into the OK game, they will almost certainly lose that. I called that one before the season started and I'm sticking with it. Again, flashy offense/barely adequate defense.

Boise State is a good team, but at this point have no business being in the conversation. I'd put a one loss Bama or LSU in the game WAY before even considering them. Would Bama or LSU have made a game out of Air Force, ever? No, they would have whipped them 48-3ish EVERY time.

Stanford will drop the Oregon game, and probably (puke) the Notre Dame game too. A one loss Oregon team will not get in since they lost to one of the two teams they would be playing convincingly. Sure, Stanford looks great right now, but they have played a similar schedule to Boise State to this point. Stanford has the best shot of anyone remaining to get in other than Bama/LSU IMO, but I still think that they drop one or two.

Clemson (They apparently do play pretty damn good football there) will lose this season too. Everybody loves a Cinderella Story, but there is no way that this team makes it through unscathed. This is a team that could be around .500 on the year. Kudos to them for winning all the tight games, but they really are not a dominate team.

That pretty mush covers it. I'm calling it as I see it. I think for the very first time we will see a rematch game for the MNC game. Bama/LSU will be the two most deserving teams at the end of the season. I personally will have no problem with it either, provided they are 13-0 and 11-1. I think if Stanford goes unbeaten they will get in, and possibly if Clemson does. I don't think that Boise will over an 11-1 LSU or Bama. IMO, they certainly would not deserve to. Say LSU goes 11-1 with their only loss being a close loss to Bama. Translate Boise into LSU's schedule and think of what their record would be. We have no way of telling, but in no way would it be 11-1 or better. Air Force would never have given LSU or Bama a close game, never. As down as Ohio State is this year, I think they would go through Boise State's schedule undefeated with the possible exception being Georgia. It's weak, man, weak.
Posted By: 257_Roy Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
As an aside, big time sympathy for our Dear Leader.

To see both of your teams lose games they shouldn't in one weekend is tough.

To see your favorite with a MNC berth looming drop out of the picture sucks. Been there and done that. Even though it's a crisp clear fall morning here in the Mideast, it's gotta be a rough mo(u)rning for him. I'll let it out for ya, man. AAIIIYYYAARRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11


Good post Roy, spot on!!!!!!!!
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by 257_Roy


Clemson (They apparently do play pretty damn good football there) will lose this season too. Everybody loves a Cinderella Story, but there is no way that this team makes it through unscathed. This is a team that could be around .500 on the year. Kudos to them for winning all the tight games, but they really are not a dominate team.



I believe you're very wrong on this one but we shall see. The energy and intensity that this team and their coaches are playing with can only be seen at a live game. I'll give you a pass because you can't see that. Also, there's a lot of Nationwide support for the Tigers and the program they've built. Hell even Gamecocks are flying Tiger paws!

You Ohio boys still don't like Clemson (yes they do play football there like a BSC NC) do you? .500 team no way. Not to be unscathed? Tell that to this team because they believe.

Yup, I bet ole Woody's turning in his grave right about now.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11


Do you think that Clemson would stand a chance aganist Alabama or LSU?
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by jwp475

Do you think that Clemson would stand a chance aganist Alabama or LSU?

At this point, I believe that any team can beat any team.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11


If a Biblical miracle occurs, Clemson could beat LSU or Bama
Clemson has a QB that can get off a pass faster than any I've ever seen, which may negate the effect of a good pass rush.

However, I don't think they have faced one like Bama or LSU would put on them, nor the caliber of D-Backs that each have, especially LSU.

Hope we can get back on track and see some teams that we have actually heard of on next weeks picks. Picking these unknown teams is akin to throwing a dart at the balloon wall during a carnival. LOL

I call them NSI picks. No Skill Involved. grin
Posted By: shreck Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Looky there grin
Hell done froze slap over.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
No kidding! Congrats on your win this week bubba. Heck of a pull for both you and Nail.

Think I'll take a football break today and watch Talladega.
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Remains to be seen if Clemson has the defense to hang with LSU or Bama, but it's dumb to assume that they can't play with those two teams. The ACC isn't the weakass Pac 12 and the most "dominant" team hasn't always won the NC game. These are still 20 year old kids and anything can happen.

I'm only disappointed that OKL lost and saved Steve_NO's ass from having to buy my Noslers. Mich State has put Clemson one step closer to a BCSCG slot if they win out.
For those who think Clemson can win the National Championship.

Posted By: Penguin Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Wow, looks like I missed all of the big ones this week huh?

Michigan State always plays us tough. Solid team. That was what you call quicksand ala Replacements. Wisconsin will be much better going forward. I look for a different outcome in Indy.

Haven't checked but shreck won this week? Cool, you know the drill bud. try to get 5 to trip us up and we'll tee up on Tuesday.

Will
Originally Posted by Foxbat

I'm only disappointed that OKL lost and saved Steve_NO's ass from having to buy my Noslers.



I'd be delighted to make a new bet on the outcome of any game between Clemson and either LSU or Alabama, is that should come about. Which is looking more possible.
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by JohnMoses
For those who think Clemson can win the National Championship.


One would think an LSU fan would be cognizant of the fact that in LSU's last MNC, they lost not one, but two games to lesser teams. Les Miles has never lost less than 2 games in a season.

I'm not about to claim Clemson would win, I'm merely pointing out that history says, LSU could lose.
Posted By: 257_Roy Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by jwp475


Good post Roy, spot on!!!!!!!!


I've seen the light.... Not every year is like this, but by FAR the two best teams that I've seen this year are LSU and Bama. I would have included OK and Wisconsin in that discussion until this week, but as a slight step behind those two.

Clemson is a nice story, but they've pulled a couple out of their rear end to win on teams that either LSU or Bama would have put out of commission by halftime. You can't always make a living winning tight games. Kudos to them on their spotless record to date, but as previously stated, they could easily be a .500 team right now if a few breaks didn't go their way.

I probably dislike SEC teams in general a bunch more than I dislike ACC teams. But to my eye, LSU and Bama are the two premier teams in CFB this season. There is still a bunch of football to be played for sure, but if Clemson, OK State, and Stanford drop a game as I surely think they will, then don't be surprised if we see a rematch of LSU/Bama in the MNC. I think an 11-1 LSU or Bama would edge out anyone else, an undefeated Boise included. Especially if their first game is a real tight contest going to the home team.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
If the one loss is to the other team, what is the point in playing again? It hardly seems fair for the victor to have to win twice and if the loser of the first game wins the rematch, it looks to me like things are merely tied, which would necessitate another game being played. (God help us if there would be such a thing as a tie in college football!)
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by Foxbat

I'm only disappointed that OKL lost and saved Steve_NO's ass from having to buy my Noslers.



I'd be delighted to make a new bet on the outcome of any game between Clemson and either LSU or Alabama, is that should come about. Which is looking more possible.


LSU and Bama are better all around teams than Clemson. The point is, that shyt happens and one should never underestimate their opponent.

I'm a strong believer in defense wins championships and would never bet against the stronger defense in a one game takes all matchup.

However, there is a long list of #1's that didn't make it through New Years week.
Posted By: shreck Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Will, ill shoot you a pm when my internet comes back on line. Count on at least one acc game.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Lemme' guess:

NC State-FSU! wink
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Please...... no more 20 point spread games this year. We've had like 20 games this year where no one (or only 1 person) took the other team, what's the point?

Not bitchin, but let's make this years champ earn it like past years.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by Foxbat
Originally Posted by JohnMoses
For those who think Clemson can win the National Championship.


One would think an LSU fan would be cognizant of the fact that in LSU's last MNC, they lost not one, but two games to lesser teams. Les Miles has never lost less than 2 games in a season.

I'm not about to claim Clemson would win, I'm merely pointing out that history says, LSU could lose.



Yes and both of those losses were a week after a big game with severla LSU starters not being able to play are not at full strength. LSU did not have the depth on that team that they have on this team
Please....give us Clemson vs. Bama or LSU in an NC game. Better game than Boise State. And the loser of LSU/Bama may get the other one in the Sugar.

of the remaining unbeatens, I would think Okla. State might be the best challenge to the two SEC teams.
Posted By: shreck Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Here's what I sent to the Penguin...

Buffalo@Miami (OH)
Fordham@Army
Louisiana-Lafatette@Middle Tenn.
Southern Miss@UTEP
Wake Forest@Cariolina
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Please....give us Clemson vs. Bama or LSU in an NC game. Better game than Boise State. And the loser of LSU/Bama may get the other one in the Sugar.

of the remaining unbeatens, I would think Okla. State might be the best challenge to the two SEC teams.

Kinda disappointed, Steve. You should have more faith in LSU. That Miss. St. game wasn't that bad. I truly believe that on a neutral field and with enough prep time, LSU could compete with Boise. grin
Posted By: Shag Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
I Ralphed up this week.. Got made some picks I'd never had made.. ugh
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by shreck
Here's what I sent to the Penguin...

Buffalo@Miami (OH)
Fordham@Army
Louisiana-Lafatette@Middle Tenn.
Southern Miss@UTEP
Wake Forest@Cariolina


JM thanks you.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
I went from 10th to 20th in one week. You're gonna' see some maverick picks out of me moving forward! Nothing to lose...
Originally Posted by shreck
Here's what I sent to the Penguin...

Buffalo@Miami (OH)
Fordham@Army
Louisiana-Lafatette@Middle Tenn.
Southern Miss@UTEP
Wake Forest@Cariolina


Don't blame you. Best chance for those with no understanding of the game is to get every unheard of match up you can find so it dumbs everything down to a coin toss. grin

Don't thank me Fox. Thank Shreck the Wreck. LOL

I don't control others stupidity, only point it out in the hope a correction is made. grin wink

Hell, it will be fun either way. wink
Posted By: NathanL Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Please....give us Clemson vs. Bama or LSU in an NC game. Better game than Boise State. And the loser of LSU/Bama may get the other one in the Sugar.

of the remaining unbeatens, I would think Okla. State might be the best challenge to the two SEC teams.


Well if Boise makes it to the NC game the only saving grace is going to be that either LSU or Alabama fans are going to pack the superdome. Imagine if BSU wound up playing in New Orleans this year against a team like Oregon or Stanford.
That would suck on many levels.
Posted By: NathanL Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Just got notice the LSU/Alabama game has been moved to a 7pm Central Time kickoff. So you can go hunt and still make the gameon TV.
Posted By: Nail Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by byc
No kidding! Congrats on your win this week bubba. Heck of a pull for both you and Nail.

Think I'll take a football break today and watch Talladega.



Congrats Shrek. Guess I went the wrong way on my tie-breaker points.
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by Kamerad_Les
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by byc
Bob has me sending text scores to his blind. You know I could really get inside the mans head right about now if I had a mind to. Maybe something like AUB-20-LSU 7 and 0-5 in the pool thus far. Hmmmmm--Is that mean!


yes it is....I was mulling the same thing.


Ya'll ain't got a hair on yer azz! I damn sure would. wink

========================

I had to watch ESPN twice this morning to make sure I heard what I thought I just heard. Will,I am sorry,buddy. F Flutie for inventing it. It shouldn't have happened...I watched that one 4 times. LSU...Damn,you guys are good. Bama...Damn,you guys are good. I dropped to 4 games out of the lead. Gotta go for some 10-0s which,of course,means some funky,off the wall possibilities.

Steve and Dave...thanks for helping me kill time in the tree-stand.
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
what are the chances of Bama beating LSU and then Bama losing the SEC to the East?

Man that would sure shake things up huh?
Originally Posted by NathanL
Just got notice the LSU/Alabama game has been moved to a 7pm Central Time kickoff. So you can go hunt and still make the gameon TV.

That is good news.
Originally Posted by byc
what are the chances of Bama beating LSU and then Bama losing the SEC to the East?

Man that would sure shake things up huh?

Enough injuries could make that a possibility. Both teams play a physical game, especially on defense. I think it's unlikely though. I'm not even going to try to predict a winner in this one.
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by JohnMoses
Don't thank me Fox. Thank Shreck the Wreck. LOL

I don't control others stupidity, only point it out in the hope a correction is made. grin wink

Hell, it will be fun either way. wink


I was telling him that you, would thank him. Sarcasm intended.

Actually, I figured he was joking with those picks. eek
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by byc
what are the chances of Bama beating LSU and then Bama losing the SEC to the East?

Man that would sure shake things up huh?


Unfortunately, there isn't anyone in the SEC East that could be a tomato can right now. Especially with SC losing their QB and RB in successive weeks. Not that the QB was that big of a loss. The RB was though.
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Shreck has obviously been Bogarting Gus' stash!
Posted By: byc Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Have you seen his new GF? Punch drunk love for sure. He has to be on top of the world. wink

Why not mess with us? I would.
Originally Posted by isaac

Steve and Dave...thanks for helping me kill time in the tree-stand.



heaven knows what kind of mossy horned old bucks walked by while you were managing Lock Pick Entrprises in your tree stand.
Posted By: NathanL Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by byc
what are the chances of Bama beating LSU and then Bama losing the SEC to the East?

Man that would sure shake things up huh?


Not much chance. Bigger chance of LSU beating Alabama and turning around and losing to Arkansas before the SEC championship game.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/23/11
Originally Posted by NathanL
Originally Posted by byc
what are the chances of Bama beating LSU and then Bama losing the SEC to the East?

Man that would sure shake things up huh?


Not much chance. Bigger chance of LSU beating Alabama and turning around and losing to Arkansas before the SEC championship game.



That is a possibility
bite your tongue, man....don't be puttin' the gris gris on the Tigahs.

after watching Arkansas struggle early with the pitiful Rebs, I have a hard time believing LSU could drop that one, but it is always a scary head case game for them.

this team is so strong and deep, they'd have to beat themselves with a flock of turnovers to lose that one, and even if they chuck it up the D will minimize the harm.
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/24/11
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
Originally Posted by isaac

Steve and Dave...thanks for helping me kill time in the tree-stand.



heaven knows what kind of mossy horned old bucks walked by while you were managing Lock Pick Entrprises in your tree stand.

---------------

No such thing as a old buck in the West Va. hills.
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/24/11
Originally Posted by byc
Have you seen his new GF? Punch drunk love for sure. He has to be on top of the world. wink

Why not mess with us? I would.

===============

How would I have seen Gus' new girlfriend?
Posted By: shreck Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/24/11
Originally Posted by byc
Have you seen his new GF? Punch drunk love for sure. He has to be on top of the world. wink

Why not mess with us? I would.


Ya I'm messing with yall. They were all ACC picks
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/24/11
It's honestly a crappy week for choosing games. There's almost none with a tight point spread.

Next week has some real good games.
Originally Posted by Foxbat

Next week has some real good games.



Ya think? that little game in Tuscaloosa is a five point spread now.
Posted By: isaac Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/24/11
Bama is favored by 5? Also,game is now moved to 8pm.
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Beat the Penguin - Week #8 - 10/24/11
LSU-Bama
Texas Tech-Texas
Michigan-Iowa
South Carolina-Ark
Kansas St-OK ST.
Texas A&M-OKL

Nice slate next week.

This week will put you to sleep.
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