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Posted By: logcutter Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/16/12
I'm going to be brave here and ask how anyone that had "Chronic Hives" for over six months did to correct it?I first thought it was Plavix but it isn't after dropping it.

I have been to the doc three times in one week with the only answer that worked,Prednisone..Screw that, but I did try it and it worked for a few days.

Any idea's or experiences similar?

Jayco
Posted By: Scott F Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/16/12
Cannot help nut I do feel sorry for you. That has to suck big time!
Posted By: Gus Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/16/12
my son had severe hives when in about the 8th grade. it followed a severe car wreck a few years earlier.

stress? learning how to relax? the doctors gave some sort of steroids if memory serves. it helped.

he grew past it. the hives were around his midsection and waist. he would just about claw himself to death when they set in. avoiding chocolate, food coloring, plenty of fresh air, water and exercise. he grew out of it. hasn't been bothered since then, but it was a mystery, mostly.

his son, two years old, is healthy as an ox.
Prednisone will work, I'd give it a try! I have a friend that suffered through this, I'll ask him what worked for him and let you know
Posted By: eyeball Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/16/12
I would definable see a Good allergy specialist ASAP.
Originally Posted by eyeball
I would definable see a Good allergy specialist ASAP.


That is about my only option now but the dragger is,I live 80 miles from reputable doctors(allergist) in Lewiston Id...The process of elimination could get spendy,gas wise.

But if,I have know choice...One of the drawbacks of living away from cities.

Thanks though!

Jayco
Have you tried Benadryl (Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride)? I'm not a doctor or expert. Just a shot in the dark for an allergic reaction, but it couldn't hurt to try if you haven't and the only side effect is drowsiness, which isn't bad when you stay busy, and kind of nice when you need allergy relief at night.
Posted By: 243WSSM Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/16/12
Originally Posted by logcutter
I'm going to be brave here and ask how anyone that had "Chronic Hives" for over six months did to correct it?I first thought it was Plavix but it isn't after dropping it.

I have been to the doc three times in one week with the only answer that worked,Prednisone..Screw that, but I did try it and it worked for a few days.

Any idea's or experiences similar?

Jayco


You gotta figure out what you are allergic to, itchy legs or body can be laundry detergent or fabric softener, general hives something you are eating like peanut butter, shellfish, bread, wheat, all kinds of things.

They can be tough to figure out then when you do it makes sense.

Start with a very simple diet that has just a few things on it, don't eat anything else for a week or so and see if it makes a difference. Try to eliminate the big offenders like wheat and corn syrup things, eat rice cereals with almond milk on them. Do some online research on elimination diets.
To be honest Jayco, been battling them myself lately. Never had hives before in my life, till a few months ago. Tried to figure out what it was, have had no luck so far. They just show up, no change in diet or exposure to allergens I'm aware of. I do have allergies, grass, trees, dust, etc, but they've only presented before as runny nose, eyes, sneezing.

Benadryl has taken care of them short term, but it really knocks me through a loop. I just had my wisdom teeth pulled a couple days ago, and am hoping they were a result of some bad teeth, but who knows? Time will tell.
It's funny how one med works for some and not others.Benadryl does nothing for me but Zyrtec does..Go figure.I have gone through every over the counter med plus prescribed high does and nothing but the shot(needle) worked and it only worked for four hours prior to Zantc for the lower histamine and some wash(sedative-anti Hist) that knocked me out for the upper..

For itching,pickle juice and/or vinegar do about as well as the Corti steroid creams..

Man,I am at a loss..Thanks for the info....

Jayco
Posted By: 243WSSM Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/16/12
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
To be honest Jayco, been battling them myself lately. Never had hives before in my life, till a few months ago. Tried to figure out what it was, have had no luck so far. They just show up, no change in diet or exposure to allergens I'm aware of. I do have allergies, grass, trees, dust, etc, but they've only presented before as runny nose, eyes, sneezing.

Benadryl has taken care of them short term, but it really knocks me through a loop. I just had my wisdom teeth pulled a couple days ago, and am hoping they were a result of some bad teeth, but who knows? Time will tell.


A few years ago I bought a new washer and dryer, they had a special on great big buckets of biodegradable detergent that you only use a tiny scoop of so it was a two or three year supply. It was almost a year before I started having itchy legs, the hives were so bad I was scratching them to where they'd bleed. I couldn't sleep it was so bad. Gold Bond powwder helped a lot, but I finally figured out it was the laundry detergent. If I cut back the amount used and increase the extra rinse cycles it helped, but now I'm very careful about what type I use and switching to another. I watch to go light on detergent on the sheets too, that helps.

Motel sheets make me bleed it's so bad with industrial strength detergents.
Posted By: eyeball Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/16/12
Or an allergy to some 'fragrance' in the detergent or in bounce?
Posted By: 243WSSM Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/16/12
Originally Posted by eyeball (G2)
Or an allergy to some 'fragrance' in the detergent or in bounce?


It seems that the fragrances are it, non allergenic ones seem to be fragrance free
I'd be interested to know if you ever get it figured out. Doc was worthless for me, if they don't go away I'm off to an allergist, but was trying to spare the expense.
I had them about 25 years ago and THANK GOD,I've never had them since.If I remember right all they had at that time was some pink cream to put on them to help with the itch and it didn't work.You just have to wait until they come to the surface and go way.Sorry.
I started getting them last August. A foot/hand/toe/etc would swell up and I would break out all over. I went to the ER and they said it was allergies. They prescribed (I believe) Prednisone and something else. Mine seem to also be related to heat or excitement. If I get too wound up over something I can count on breaking out all over...

It really sucks! I hope it is not as bad this summer as it was last summer!
Posted By: pal Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
Rather than paying a doctor, several times a week, you should try, yourself, to determine just what causes this reaction. Analyze your diet, including everything you ingest: drugs, food, drink/coffee/alcohol, smoke,... By process of elimination, see if you can find the source of the problem. Substitute baby products for other shampoos, etc. Research it online.

Edit: Also be aware of any sources of stress.
Posted By: eyeball Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
Not exactly. Hoping it does not progress to angioedema or pulmonary edema or loss of blood pressure in the event you reexpose yourself to an allergen.
Posted By: soli Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
Check out the web site The Peoples Pharmacy,
LC, I bet it is stress related. It weakens your immune system and chit happens. I got the shingles a few months after starting a new very stressful job in my early 40's. You might also have developed an allergy to something right out of the blue. I would drive the 80 to see a good Doc.
I had a raging case of hives years ago and pretty much nailed it down to Tide laundry soap, Haven't touched it since and no more itchy's.
Tea tree oil, and others worth a try.

http://www.tbyil.com/Hives.htm

charlee
Posted By: 243WSSM Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
Originally Posted by Sainte_Terrer
I started getting them last August. A foot/hand/toe/etc would swell up and I would break out all over. I went to the ER and they said it was allergies. They prescribed (I believe) Prednisone and something else. Mine seem to also be related to heat or excitement. If I get too wound up over something I can count on breaking out all over...

It really sucks! I hope it is not as bad this summer as it was last summer!


LMAO you need to chill out and leave politics to those that can understand what's up ...
Posted By: Hubert Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
One of my friends got them from stress, finally shot himself.
Probably not the solution he was looking for.
Posted By: eyeball Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
So, you laugh at someone who has a medical problem and indicate that should keep them out of politics? Hypocrite bullschitt.
Stay away from the predisone.For me it caused more problems than it fixed.You might try Tide Free for laundry.
Posted By: eyeball Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
Well, there are side effects to steroids, but steroids may well prevent more suffering and save more lives than most miracle drugs.
Posted By: BarryC Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
Forget all the harmful drugs and archaic allergy shots, SRT works and is non-invasive. Find a doctor who uses it.

Description of SRT
Originally Posted by BarryC
Forget all the harmful drugs and archaic allergy shots, SRT works and is non-invasive. Find a doctor who uses it.

Description of SRT


I encourage my patients to seek alternative therapies whenever they feel they should, and have done so for many years. I have come to hold acupuncture and traditional Chinese herbal therapy in very high regard in this manner. Likewise acupressure and Asian massage techniques.

Homeopathy has been shown time and again, both in my experience and in the literature, to be hogwash at best, and criminal negligence at worst. Same with Naturopathy and a host of others.

Most of the modern hodge-podge therapies which seek to blend several older alternative modalities and then package them in some fancy high-gloss package with a modern-sounding name ("SRT", for example) have proven themselves to be 1) very lucrative for the practitioner, and 2) objectively ineffective. I'd never heard of "SRT" before I opened the link you posted, but it has all the usual earmarks: its proponents attack allopathic (Western) medicine in general, laud alternative medicine of all types, and roll together a bunch of therapies that individually haven't got a very good track record. Sorry, I'm very skeptical about "SRT"; but that doesn't mean I am rejecting it... I will look into it in more depth and detail.

Urticaria, or "hives", is a nonspecific dermal reaction to inflammatory mediators in the skin. It can be triggered by allergies (most common) and specific drugs, but also by emotional/psychiatric factors. The cause is often multifactorial. This is why it's sometimes hard to treat. You need to find the allergens causing the reaction and eliminate them, which is challenge. I've ceased to be amazed at how many people with serious allergies to cats, for example, refuse to get rid of their cats; you have to clean up your house and yard and your truck. Etc, etc, etc. And because there is almost always some level of emotional/psychiatric component to these sorts of skin reactions, anything that relieves stress will improve symptoms... so a quack remedy that YOU BELIEVE IN will often give you temporary relief.

So, to cut to the chase: 95% of people I have seen with urticaria respond to a basic regimen involving lifestyle modification, reduced exposure to allergens, and basic drug therapy like OTC antihistamines and low-dose steroids. If that is ineffective, consultation with an allergist is the FASTEST way to get to the bottom of the problem and fix it. Targeted desensitization injection therapy is an amazingly effective and inexpensive way of reducing or even eliminating allergies, and it is only available through a board certified allergist.

Of course, if you want to spend more money and time and suffer for a longer period, by all means explore every cockamamie "alternative" therapy you wish. It's your body, your money, your time, and your suffering, NOT mine.

But if you truly want to get better, get thee to an allergist.
logcutter... BTW, my rant (above) against quack therapies for your problem was in no way directed at you or any other 24HCF member in particular, and I am concerned about your problem to some degree.

Urticaria that doesn't respond to basic therapy may be simply a bad allergy, in which case an allergist can help you a LOT; but it may also be a symptom of a more serious illness. I don't say this to alarm you, but many of the serious rheumatic diseases like Lupus, Sjogren's syndrome, and others can manifest with urticaria. Likewise, there are many hormonal disorders that may manifest with skin problems, including urticaria. And some cancers may manifest with bizarre skin disorders, as well. In other words, this isn't something you can afford to blow off with home remedies.

Bottom line, this could be a sign of something more serious and you should get it looked into pronto.

Three visits to your GP in a week isn't a good sign, to me. You might do well to get to a good general Internal Medicine man for a more thorough evaluation. You'll probably get in to see an internist right away, whereas an allergist might take a few weeks.

Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.

Doc
Posted By: BarryC Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/12
Well, Doc, I don't know what to say to that except that SRT has worked very well for me and my entire family. I used to be sick with allergies of one sort or another 9 months out of the year. That was in spite of getting allergy shots every 2 weeks for over a dozen years. 10 years after I gave up on that, I took Enzyme Potentiated Desensitization treatments, which gave me about 75% relief. About 5 years later I started on sporadic SRT treatments. Now I hardly ever have any problems with allergies and when I do, it only lasts a couple days as opposed to months.

Elimination/avoidance is fine if you are only allergic to a couple things, but if you have hives like the OP is talking about, you are allergic to life!

Traditional allergy shots are a hoax and only "treat" what you've been tested for.

Have you ever tried SRT?
Originally Posted by BarryC


Traditional allergy shots are a hoax and only "treat" what you've been tested for.


That's a very narrow view of it, BarryC. I've had a lot of experience with allergy desensitization thereapy, both personal and professional. The research evidence is very, very solid on this. I have had hundreds of patients whose allergies were eliminated by this therapy. Your unfortunate experience is the exception rather than the rule.

I'm glad SRT has worked for you, my friend. I did not mean to impugn SRT as a therapeutic modality, as I obviously haven't evaluated it... it fits a "type" of therapy, though, that as I said, tends to be quackery 90% of the time. I have edited my earlier post to clarify on this: I am skeptical about alternatives, but before I reject them, I look at them carefully. I intend to look into SRT to see if it might benefit my patients. Again, if I gave offense, I apologize.

NONETHELESS, I must say this: I have a nephew who is, as you put it, "alllergic to life". He's 19. I am going to email the link you posted to his mother, and see if they can find some relief for him through this. Lord knows they've tried everything else. So thanks for posting the link.

As I said before, I had no knowledge of SRT before you posted the link, and I have encouraged my patients to seek alternative therapies when all the mainstream medical therapies failed. Some have worked, as I said. IF an alternative therapy works for ONE patient, I am happy for that patient, but it doesn't mean I'll recommend it to others.

In any event, I am resonding to logcutter, whose symptoms are reportedly of recent duration and fairly high severity. Serious acute illness as a cause for these symptoms must be ruled out before alternative therapies for symptom relief should be explored.
Originally Posted by 243WSSM
Originally Posted by Sainte_Terrer
I started getting them last August. A foot/hand/toe/etc would swell up and I would break out all over. I went to the ER and they said it was allergies. They prescribed (I believe) Prednisone and something else. Mine seem to also be related to heat or excitement. If I get too wound up over something I can count on breaking out all over...

It really sucks! I hope it is not as bad this summer as it was last summer!



LMAO you need to chill out and leave politics to those that can understand what's up ...


Hard to do when you are a graduate student in Political Science...lol
Posted By: 243WSSM Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/18/12
Originally Posted by Sainte_Terrer
Originally Posted by 243WSSM
Originally Posted by Sainte_Terrer
I started getting them last August. A foot/hand/toe/etc would swell up and I would break out all over. I went to the ER and they said it was allergies. They prescribed (I believe) Prednisone and something else. Mine seem to also be related to heat or excitement. If I get too wound up over something I can count on breaking out all over...

It really sucks! I hope it is not as bad this summer as it was last summer!



LMAO you need to chill out and leave politics to those that can understand what's up ...


Hard to do when you are a graduate student in Political Science...lol


That's pretty funny. grin
Posted By: 243WSSM Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/18/12
Originally Posted by eyeball (G21)
So, you laugh at someone who has a medical problem and indicate that should keep them out of politics? Hypocrite bullschitt.


You need to pay attention to when people are saying something with a sense of humor, you're wrapped a bit too tight. smile

The person I said that to seemed to take it like I meant it.

Otherwise I have offered helpful and serious advice.
Posted By: yoop Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/18/12
You have my sympathy. I had them for more years than I care to think about. The worse ones were the ones under the palms and soles of the feet. I would get them so bad I could not control my body temperature.

Steroids were a dangerous mix for me. They knocked the hives down, but were less effective with each does. I came so close to uncontrolled rage. I wanted to through my 6 year old son out the window and then go outside to stomp him some more...because he went to the bathroom , started playing and forgot to bring a washclothe for his little brother... I still shudder over that one. Bad business.

I do not have hives now and have not had them for many years. I made trips to Drs and Dermatologists and was universally told "We do not know what causes them."

I quit mainstream meat. I lived rurally and raised hogs, rabbits and chickens, with no antibiotic feed. Supplemented the freezer with bear and venison. I do not know if that is what caused them to go away or was it coincidence, I do know they are gone. I wish them never to return.

It is far easier to live with pain than with itching. You will learn to live with the itch, and the palm pain, and the fevers.

I am so sorry for your predicament.
I am allergic to a wide range of inhalants, foods, medicines and molds. In fact, I was so consistent in my reactions that my allergist, the late Vincent A. Marinkovich M.D., Certified Allergist & Immunologist Clinical Professor, Stanford University, used me as a test subject for various studies. Specimens of my blood was used, among others, to develop the Mast blood test. In my case hives are caused by drug reactions and exposure to ammonia such as cleaning solutions and decoppering solvents. My suggestion is not to guess about what is going on, but to consult with an allergist as soon as possible. These things can become serious, such as when I'd hemorrhage after consuming a bowl of milk and cereal.
yoop, WranglerJohn, thanks for posting your experiences.

Hives ain't no joke, as you've pointed out. They can be a terribly life-disrupting problem. The underlying immune system dysfunction is often a sign that something more serious is going on, or that drastic lifestyle changes are necessary. Switching to organic foods isn't easy, but is probably the most commonly effective solution to severe allergy problems I've encountered in 25 years of medical practice. IMHO our current "factory farm" food production system is responsible for a host of medical maladies.

I have been pm-ing with logcutter and he's headed to the ER this morning for worsening symptoms. Let's all keep a good thought for him today.
I'm bumping this thread to keep the ideas coming. I've been battling phoning hives something fierce this last week and trying to find answers.

I think Logcutter ended up being full of schit, but I could be wrong. Regardless, these things suck balls.
Posted By: rattler Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
might try Pepcid AC......sometimes helps for skin reactions to allergies....definitely works for contact stuff for people allergic to weeds and such(exwife and daughters are horribly so which is how i found out about it) not sure how it will work for hives but sure shouldnt hurt you....
Posted By: eyeball Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
Originally Posted by logcutter
It's funny how one med works for some and not others.Benadryl does nothing for me but Zyrtec does..Go figure.I have gone through every over the counter med plus prescribed high does and nothing but the shot(needle) worked and it only worked for four hours prior to Zantc for the lower histamine and some wash(sedative-anti Hist) that knocked me out for the upper..

For itching,pickle juice and/or vinegar do about as well as the Corti steroid creams..

Man,I am at a loss..Thanks for the info....

Jayco
you tried loratadine?
BGG,

Funny you should mention this.

I don't have chronic hives......but have had 2 minor attacks in the last several months.

Yesterday had a bad attack with them alllllll over me. They didn't hurt or itch, fortunately. Did a bunch of research on the web yesterday. Took a shower and changed into clean clothes. Today they are mostly gone.

Also have had upper lip swelling, yesterday included. One day a couple months ago I could hardly talk and looked like a [bleep]. Takes a day for it to go away.

Evidently.........I've developed an allergy to something. I know the spiders here in this place have been eating the schitt outta me at night. That may be the cause. Food, pollen and insect bites. Eaten anything new lately??

Unfortunately don't have any direct help for you, BGG. But I certainly do sympathize with you.

The members of this forum are pretty good with offering medical advice. Keep this thread alive and you may very well find help.
4th grade spelling bee caused the worst case I ever had! Many folks talked about rolling me naked in the snow as a cure! Lucky for me we didn't have any snow at the time!

Hope you whoop them, they do suck!

Mike
Posted By: eyeball Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
Originally Posted by 243WSSM
Originally Posted by eyeball (G21)
So, you laugh at someone who has a medical problem and indicate that should keep them out of politics? Hypocrite bullschitt.


You need to pay attention to when people are saying something with a sense of humor, you're wrapped a bit too tight. smile

The person I said that to seemed to take it like I meant it.

Otherwise I have offered helpful and serious advice.


I agree whole heartedly. Strange i took it that way that day. Please pardon me. I cant believe i meant it that way. frown
Posted By: eyeball Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
Originally Posted by rattler
might try Pepcid AC......sometimes helps for skin reactions to allergies....definitely works for contact stuff for people allergic to weeds and such(exwife and daughters are horribly so which is how i found out about it) not sure how it will work for hives but sure shouldnt hurt you....
!
This^^^ for sure. I have stated several times before about the benefits of H2 inhibitors like famotidine or cimetadine (sp) I treating severe allergies.
Posted By: add Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I'm bumping this thread to keep the ideas coming. I've been battling phoning hives something fierce this last week and trying to find answers.


Mid-March, same time frame as your last complaint in 2012.
drink plenty of beer and loose women... guarantee cure all or at least you'll forget about for awhile.
Posted By: PVT Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I'm bumping this thread to keep the ideas coming. I've been battling phoning hives something fierce this last week and trying to find answers.


Mid-March, same time frame as your last complaint in 2012.


Tax season? Seriously though, I broke out in hives one semester in college when I took 21 hours, had a job, officer in a club, and had a girlfriend. Stress was the cause. After that semester, never had em again. Broke out in shingles ( lousy with chickenpox as a child ) during the election of 2008. Stress again.
Went to the doc when they first showed up in '12. Medical care in this town is worse than a joke, since I've been here I've always heard if you can survive the trip go to Great Falls. And my experiences personal and through friends and family bear this out. Anyways, the PA I saw just blew me off and said take anti-histamines it's just seasonal allergies. In the last 3 years they've been sporadic. Nothing I can tie them to. Mid-winter, spring, summer, fall, inside, outside, makes no difference. Been through all the things I can think of, soaps, detergents, food. Nothing I have done has made a difference. Up till now they've just been an annoyance, take some benadryl and they go away, sometimes needing 2 doses but I just kinda gave up.

This time however it's different. I've had them non-stop for 4-5 days. From the soles of my feet and palms of my hands (those are the worst) to the top of my head. Literally every inch is a phoucing hive. Been in a benadryl haze since. Took almost 2 full doses for the itching to subside enough to get to sleep friday. Had a little trouble breathing, and my hands and feet have been swelling. Now my arms are getting fluid in them, like in the tricep area and above my elbow. WTF I'm an asthmatic so I'm pretty in tune with my breathing and I'm familiar with anaphylaxis which was my big fear when they first showed up.

Went in to a different PA today and go the same blasé treatment. I explained to him what was going on, and YES I've tried changing detergents, etc. He got a Dr to come in, and at least I got a referral to an allergist. Waiting to see how long that wait will be. I can't keep on this benadryl train, eventually my tolerance will build to the point it just won't work. So I got a script for 3 days worth of prednisone and an epic-pen.

I hate sharing personal schit on the 'net but this place is full of good folks who might have had the same thing, or might be a medical dude who can give me some pointers. So I figured what the hey eh?
Posted By: rattler Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
try the Pepcid AC, should know pretty quick if its gonna work....the system in place in the skin to cause allergic reactions like this is remarkably similar to the acid pumps in your stomache.....IIRC the girls were feeling alot better inside 2 hours of taking....if it will work in your case
I'm already on omeprazol, don't need another pill messing with my stomach.
Posted By: rattler Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I'm already on omeprazol, don't need another pill messing with my stomach.


then feel free to keep suffering cause i have yet to see anything work aswell.....creams and such are a joke compared to it, the Pepcid actually works on the mechanism in the skin causeing the reaction, most anything else im aware of just tries to deal with the swelling and itching and not the source....
Posted By: rattler Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
thogh both Pepcid and omeprzol are for stomach acid, they work on different things Pepcid works on histamine H2 receptors which is also what causes the reaction in skin allergies....omeparzol only effective on active H+/K+ ATPase pumps
Posted By: PVT Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
I think Doc had the best advice. A trip to an Internest may well be in order. Just to rule out some underlying issue. Maybe in Missoula?
Barring something crazy happening I'm going to give the allergist if GF a whirl, but if I'm not happy then I'll definitely be seeing a real doc in either Billings, or Missoula, or Kalispell. Wherever the phouc I can get decent treatment. This schit has got me going batty. And I'm riding the sobriety wagon, so life really sucks right now. grin
Originally Posted by PVT
Maybe in Missoula?


Are you suggesting that pot may be the cure to this? wink
Posted By: PVT Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
Originally Posted by SBH
Originally Posted by PVT
Maybe in Missoula?


Are you suggesting that pot may be the cure to this? wink


From most members on the site, I would think that was meant as a joke. Having read most of your posts, I take that as a shot. So... GFY.
Originally Posted by PVT
Originally Posted by SBH
Originally Posted by PVT
Maybe in Missoula?


Are you suggesting that pot may be the cure to this? wink


From most members on the site, I would think that was meant as a joke. Having read most of your posts, I take that as a shot. So... GFY.


Relax PVT,

It was a joke. Notice the winky.......which I've learned the hard way to use more frequently on this forum.

I've spent some time in Missoula and Polson. What was the bar that sold the t-shirt "Liquor up Front....Poker in the Rear"? Is the Doolin Dalton Saloon still there?
Originally Posted by logcutter
I'm going to be brave here and ask how anyone that had "Chronic Hives" for over six months did to correct it?I first thought it was Plavix but it isn't after dropping it.

I have been to the doc three times in one week with the only answer that worked,Prednisone..Screw that, but I did try it and it worked for a few days.

Any idea's or experiences similar?

Jayco


Been there. last year was bad.

Benedryl at night. Loretadine days. ICE baths. Warm feels great for a bit but it stimulates the histamine response. Dont do heat. ICE cold submersion worked wonders.

Try to identify and avoid triggers.

Prednisone plain works, but it comes with many issues.
Posted By: NathanL Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
When I had really bad itching/hives associated with something else entirely they gave me prescription Pepcid. Said right on the bottle a replacement for Pepcid - the stomach stuff.

Just an idea.
Originally Posted by bethalhntr
I had a raging case of hives years ago and pretty much nailed it down to Tide laundry soap, Haven't touched it since and no more itchy's.


+1 only powdered form. Was the cause as a kid.

These days it starts with urushiols.
Posted By: Alruner Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
My wife has had several lengthy bouts with hives.. It is very serious .. Chronic Idiopathic Urticaria .. is a fancy name for .."you have a severe case of hives, we don't know how you got them and not certain how to get you relief".. Her reaction is very severe.. huge bumps over her entire body. I would hold my hand over them and I could feel the heat !

She has to see an allergist and typically has to resort to prednisone, Zyrtec and Benadryl.. It typically takes several
combinations of meds to get them under control. Be persistent trying to get the Dr's to help you. Our experience has taught us that the "don't eat this, or stay away from certain soaps, or ??? " is simply a waste of time while you are suffering...

I hope yours are not as bad, and you find an allergist committed to getting you relief ASAP..

Best to all those suffering from such a dreadful problem..
I never suffered from hives until this year, I got them on my legs at the clothing contact points (calves, thigh muscles) when we switched to a laundry detergent that came prepackaged in clear cellophane-looking bubbles.

Much reduced now but still present, gonna try the fragance free stuff.

Thanks for the thread, I had no idea this was such a common problem.

Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by SBH
What was the bar that sold the t-shirt "Liquor up Front....Poker in the Rear"?

Stockman's.
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by SBH
What was the bar that sold the t-shirt "Liquor up Front....Poker in the Rear"?

Stockman's.


Ah yes. smile
Hang in there BGG.
Hope you can crack a silo soon.
Sounds like you've got a fever, and the only prescription is more deflave (or cowbell, take your pick).
Posted By: deflave Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
When I was a kid I got hives really bad. They started out on my legs so I told my mom. My mom said it was a spider bite and sent me on my way.

I remember thinking "Spider bite my fugging dick." So when I saw my Grammie, I asked my Grammie about it. She looked annoyed so I went about my business.

They got worse and eventually my brother asked "WTF is wrong with you?" So I explained they were spider bites. He told me I was a fugging idiot. Then he told my mommy she needed to take a look. My mommy decided they were not spider bites.

They took me to some clinic and they gave me something like 15 shots in each arm. I have no fugging idea what it was but I wanted to kick that nurse in the crotch.

They called my mommy a few days later and told me I was allergic to "corn smut." We did not know, and never found out WTF "corn smut" was but my brother and I got a lot of mileage out of that word. i.e. "I bet that corn smut wants my dong."

The doctors told me to avoid being next to fields during harvest. I did and I never had them again.

So in short, I advice you go see somebody that knows WTF they're doing. And I highly doubt you'll find that person on the Hi-Line.

Hope this helps.




Clark
Posted By: RWE Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 03/17/15
Originally Posted by deflave
So in short, I advice you go see somebody that knows WTF they're doing. And I highly doubt you'll find that person on the Hi-Line.


What he said.

But if you need more help on this hive issue, I'll let you talk to my wife.

I'm allergic, but she's not, so she normally just walks up to them with a stick and a can of spray.

She'll hose it down and kill every one of them nasty stinging bastards, then knock it off the eaves with the stick.

She'll use a shovel if its in the ground.
Did the cutter die from hives?

Ron?
You ok?

Love,
wageslave
Well, Google searches reveal that "corn smut" [Linked Image] "corn porn". Oh my...
Wow, didn't realize so many of us were suffering with this. I've also been suffering with it for the last couple years. Had eczema so bad on my hand at one point last year, I had to wear a glove all day while out in the world for several months. Really put a hitch in my gun handling for a while. Hand is way better now. ProTopic (Tacrolimus) did wonders for that, but it's not a complete silver bullet. Have to use it every day.

I just got back from getting my shots at the allergist today, so a little edgy right now until that smoothes out.

3 years ago, you could have shoved ragweed up my nose and it wouldn't have done any more than make me sneeze. Nowadays, I've got a laundry list of stuff I'm allergic to that is a page and a quarter long.

Have tried everything under the sun, OTC and prescription. Some things work a little, but nothing flat stops it. Rattler, thanks for the heads up on the Pepcid, buddy. Haven't tried it yet, but I'll give it a shot and definitely try anything once.

Hydrocortisone cream helps on some areas, like my arms and back. Clobetasol ointment helps on the tops of my feet under where the laces go. Antihistamines also help. I take 2 in the a.m. and 2 immediately after getting home in the evening, or I'm itching like heck if I don't.

I've found that switching laundry detergent to what the new labeling calls "Free" helps. I buy the Kirkland brand in the big plastic jugs at Costco. Their brand. That has helped. Also, stopped buying anything that says "whole wheat" on it. Have been battling with cutting out milk, 'cause I loves me a nice glass of milk with dinner. That's been a constant for decades.

All of the things I've done work "a little bit". My BIL, who recommended the ProTopic for the eczema, claims he finally beat it for good with a 30 day Prednisone treatment. I don't know that I'm ready to try that yet. Don't hear a lot of good stories about it. Have done 5 day treatments a couple times, but the period of calm got shorter the second time. Have another 5 day batch in the medicine cabinet now, but reluctant to pull the trigger.

Allergist doc tells me I need to quit "sleeping with the enemy", meaning get rid of my dog of 13+ years. Not gonna get rid of my dog. Sorry, ain't happening. He's a good buddy and been with me a long time.

HTH.
Dirt, I'm so glad you brought this subject up. I too have been going in circles with this allergy [bleep], just as you discribe. I've used both the cortisone ointments you mentioned as well as betamethazone with little help. Taken every antihistamine, no help. Rattlers mention of Pepcid AC sent me to the drug store this morning. Have only taken one dose so far so we'll see.
Originally Posted by wageslave
Hang in there BGG.
Hope you can crack a silo soon.


That is a self induced mania I'm trying out.
FWIW and anybody who might go through the same schit, or have a family member or buddy who does I'll update as I figure it out. Went to allergist, did blood test that ruled out thyroid issues, and said I'm allergic to shellfish, sesame, peanuts, treenuts, wheat, soy, corn. Holy phouc, every try to find something to eat that contains none of the above?

Meat, taters, and dairy is good. But damn, I like my bread. I made some muffins yesterday with coconut flour, and coconut milk, honey, eggs, and some berries. Friggin good eh? Gonna try my hand at some bread with coconut flour this eve.
Posted By: pal Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 05/10/15
How do you get the coconut taste out of the flour? smile

No idea. The muffins definitely had the taste, which is good, but I'd get sick of it pretty quick.
Posted By: rattler Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 05/10/15
BGG....might get your system back on an even keel and retake the allergy test......could be your body was just over reacting to everything cause it was just pissed off.....do the strict diet, let your system reset itself than take the allergy tests again, may turn out you arent allergic to everything on the list.....also i have a laundry list of stuff i react to according to tests that have never caused me issues....granted one thing i dont have is food allergies...
Posted By: ingwe Re: Chronic Hives..What to do? - 05/10/15
Originally Posted by wageslave
Did the cutter die from hives?

Ron?
You ok?

Love,
wageslave



I know you and turdcutter are really tight, so I can appreciate your concern for him.

reaching out like this is a beautiful gesture on your part I feel....
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