We have a Rockwood travel trailer and it has a hose with a quick connect on the side of the trailer (for a grill that came with the TT, but we only use wood/charcoal for grilling). I would like to be able to connect a small 2 burner stove to it to use for outdoor cooking (especially for cooking breakfast in the mornings rather than being stuck inside the camper). I know I could use the 1lb cylinders, but heck we have two 30lb tanks on the TT so it'd be nice to use those. The small stoves I've seen that use the 1lb cylinders have a small regulator - it appears that I just forego that regulator and hook the stove directly to the trailer.

Anyone done this? Any idea on what fittings would be needed and where to find 'em?

Check Coleman's website. They used to sell all the parts.

Ed

You can get the proper regulators at an RV store.

IIRC, most RVs are something like either 10, 18, or 20 PSI regulated at the bottle for the internal system (i.e. any heaters or inside stoves - the main regulator steps down from bottle pressure to one of those PSI numbers depending on size of camper, manufacturer, number of appliances, etc.)

You will need to find out what your stove takes as far as inlet pressure and step down to the appropriate amount.

Most gas grill regulators come from bottle pressure (@ 250psi) to about 7-11" water column (roughly 1.7-2.5 psi).

What burner said! I had a 1 lb bottle fitting fail on a Brunton stove last year. Hose connection was proprietary. I had our local propane place install an adjustable regulator on mine.

As an additional point, bottle pressure in the small regulators is basically the same as bottle pressure in a larger cylinder.

The reason for the small regulators seems to be convenience and the fact that they often have the special fitting that the 1-lb bottles thread into.

I have added that threaded fitting to a regular grill regulator and used it with great success.

If your 2 burner stove has a regulator for a 1# bottle, just get the bulk tank adaptor. If you need a regulator for it as well, get a hose with adaptor attached

Thanks for the info! I'll do a little more digging as I thought the regulator at the tanks was dropping it down to final pressure (under 1psi as you mentioned), that's why I thought I could go direct from the quick connect hose to the stove with no additional regulator. Note, 27.7" water column = 1psi. So does each appliance then have it's own regulator to drop down to final pressure?

I found a little info on some RV'ing sites that have mentioned doing what I'm thinking, but they talked about getting the fittings made at a propane "store" and they did not use an additional regulator.



I don't really want to come directly off the tanks as I already have a hose with a quick connect fitting on the side of the trailer that is run from the tanks, but I may have to.

You're beating this thing to death, Man.

Listen to what Burner just told ya'.

He knows his chit.

GTC

Can't tell you where to get one, because I've had mine for too many years, but mine is an adapter made expressly for my Coleman 2-burner; has the same long tube as the white-gas tank, w/ several feet of hose attached to the regulator. Have a 3-lb aluminum propane bottle, for camping out of my PU, but the adapter works on all tanks.

When I was working with RVs, one of the issues was that the fixed stoves, etc., were made to operate on higher pressures, because unlike a grill, where you might have maybe a foot of rubber hose between the regulator and the burner, you might have 15-20 feet of tubing between the gas bottles, etc.

So the stove inside of an RV will generally need a higher pressure supply than just "grill regulator pressure."

What I would do in your case is get a dual regulator set-up with a "T" where one regulator continues to feed the inside appliances as normal, but there is a switch or second fitting so that you can use a grill regulator as well, outside of the camper, to use your Coleman stove.

Keep in mind that Coleman back in their heyday in the RV world did lots of dicky things to make their product harder to use universally, so you may need to find an adapter or different thread style for your Coleman outdoor grill to hook it up properly. IIRC the ones we had left over at the RV store took a different threaded fitting.

Thanks man!

7-11 inches W.C,

7"x.036 =.252, about a 1/4 lb. psi.
11" x.036=.396

Are we on the same page here?

TXRam, take a look at this site and see if they might have what you need. I searched for over a year for a specific hose that would connect to my 2 burner Brunton camp stove that I use in my enclosed trailer.

I needed a hose with a male quick disconnect on one end and a propane bottle connector on the other and found it on this site. Good luck.

https://caloreequipment.com/products/cl/

I agree. burner has helped me out on RV stuff in the not too distant past.

Thanks again for that Derek!

oldie �

Flier in mid-air, falling fast beneath a flopping parachute, meets a man going up.

"Do you know how to make a parachute open?"

"No. Do you know how to light a gas stove?"

They have everyhting you need at Academy to do what you want to do.

My fault for using an online WC-PSI conversion table.

Sorry about that. I needed the answer in a hurry, didn't have it off the top of my head.

My point was to demonstrate to him the drastic difference between a "whole RV regulator" like the high-pressure output ones we sold at the RV dealer, from the average grill regulator.

No problem!

Now if I could just remember how to convert PSI to " WC without googling.

OK, coleman stoves (don't know about grills) operate at 15psi per coleman. So, if my camper's propane supply is about that (sounds like it should be per burner's post above), I should be able to run it straight off the trailer's supply without adding another line, regulator, etc.



Thanks again! This (the fitting(s)) was what I was trying to ask in my initial post - sorry if it wasn't clear.

For the others, I know I can get a coleman adaptor to come straight off of the large tank at high pressure, but this is not what I'm trying to accomplish. My camper already has a propane hose with a quick connect fitting on the side of the trailer - just need the fitting(s) for the coleman stove to connect to a hose from that quick connect - cleaner/easier connection. The fitting to connect directly to the stove is not available at Camping World, Academy or my local RV place - off to check with a propane supply house next, surely we can make something work.

Just remember - 27.7"WC = 1psi.

Also, just another tidbit of info that alot of other folks probably are not aware of - the pressure in a propane tank varies GREATLY due to ambient temps - at 0F, it's only ~25psig and at 100F it's up to ~180psig!

Good to know, thanks. I had heard in general around 250 psi but again, sometimes I get inaccurate info.

I am PMing you the number of a place to call. As of when I was last there, they had Coleman hoses with the proper fittings available.

I would still double-check on the operating PSI of the grill. I think it may likely be much lower than 15 psi. That's just my gut feeling. You will have an unlightable appliance at the very least if you try to ignite 15 psig with a piezo or match. At worst, possible hazard.

1 foot of Head equals .434 psi.

So if we break it down, .434'/12" =.036 per inch.

Yes, also 27.7 inches of W.C. equals 1 psi. 27.77x.036 = 1 psi.

Just a FYI, but the regulator on an RV is typically a automatic changeover integral two stage that reduces tank pressure to 10 to 15 psi with the 1st stage, and the second stage of the regulator further reduces the pressure to 11 inches of WC just like the system's in a house. Can't speak to the two burner you have, but the hookup for your grill is more than likely also 11 inches of WC, so you will need to know what your two burner require's. It may work and it may not.

I might add that if your two burner require's more pressure than 11 inches WC, you should be able to use the regulator that comes with most two burner's (where the 1 lb throwaway's screw on) and run an approved hose to it from an extend-a-stay placed between the tank and the pigtail.

Extend-a-stay! That's the name of the kit I was thinking of that I wanted to mention. Thanks! Just had a flashback to the Stag-Parkway catalog. Many times I had to look that up for people.

I know enough that you don't turn the gas on and then go to the house for a match!


Decent eye brows take forever to grow back!

I'm too embarrassed to say how many times I have tediously wrapped tin foil over the grates on my grille only to have it blown off and ripped because the igniter didn't work on the 1st or second try, but decided to light after about 10 seconds on the 10th try or so...

Now I light the grille with the grate off and put it on after I see flames.