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Ladies and gentlemen..... I'm worried. I've been noticing for the last year gun prices have really jumped and I knew that each year they do usually increase. But the ammo prices are really what speaks the loudest. Today my dad said he saw a bulk 555 pack of winchester 22lr on gunbroker bid up to $75 and another lot for over $100!!!!! I said" you're not doing something right" let me check. Sure enough he was right. Yeah I try to pick up a brick a month from Walmart and their about $30. Bought some 2 weeks ago. Now look. It never ceases to amaze me the ignorance of the general public. Can they not see? Curb gun violence by taxing ammo beyond insanity or take guns away????? Our government are our employees! And we allow them to raise taxes, and spend frivolously, tell us what to do, where to go and when. Etc,etc,etc. WE'RE IN TROUBLE.
Where have you been? Head in the sand for awhile?
It's not as bad as you think. Yes there are some dumb [bleep] bidding up gunbroker 22lr. http://www.gunbroker.com/Rifle-Ammunition/BI.aspx?Keywords=22lr Do not get desperate, It is available. All you need to do is talk to your local gun/hardware store and ask when it comes in. Be there when they open the doors. Do not feed the crooks. These guys are not our "fellow sportsmen" in any way. If I find out anyone I know is doing this they will be done hunting on my land. I bought a 525 box of federals about 2 weeks ago at scheels/fargo $16.99. There are also some crooked gun shops out there from what I hear on here,but I can't seem to find one.
It's actually getting better. It's what we call an ammo crisis... They happen everytime a gun hungry moron gets invited into the whitehouse... They last until morons run out of money or closet space.

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Originally Posted by mog75
There are also some crooked gun shops out there from what I hear on here,but I can't seem to find one.


Check out lucky gunner, or cheaper than dirt.... As crooked as they get.
It censored me! How else could I describe someone paying $60 for remington rimfires?
Originally Posted by Coach_W
It's actually getting better.



yeah it islast couple months ive been able to find what ever i want as far as chambering, maybe not the load i want though yet..whether i want to pay an inflated price becomes the question though i aint talking $100 for a brick of 22's....but deciding whether i want to pay $50 for 100 rounds of 45 ACP or $30 for 100 rounds of 38 special....actually the most normal priced shells i find are for my 17HMR, they are only a buck or two over what i was paying per 50 for some reason....
Originally Posted by redrooster
Ladies and gentlemen..... I'm worried. I've been noticing for the last year gun prices have really jumped and I knew that each year they do usually increase. But the ammo prices are really what speaks the loudest. Today my dad said he saw a bulk 555 pack of winchester 22lr on gunbroker bid up to $75 and another lot for over $100!!!!! I said" you're not doing something right" let me check. Sure enough he was right. Yeah I try to pick up a brick a month from Walmart and their about $30. Bought some 2 weeks ago. Now look. It never ceases to amaze me the ignorance of the general public. Can they not see? Curb gun violence by taxing ammo beyond insanity or take guns away????? Our government are our employees! And we allow them to raise taxes, and spend frivolously, tell us what to do, where to go and when. Etc,etc,etc. WE'RE IN TROUBLE.
Well we've seen ammo shortages before. The current one hasn't been going on a terribly long time but has cut deeper than any I've experienced. It seems of late that things may be looking up on most of the calibers except 22's.

Nobody really knows what's going on. Maybe it's simply panicked, unprepared folks reacting to the government's constant threatening of their freedoms. Maybe it's big government contracts exacerbating shortages from two wars being fought. Maybe the government is messing around with our supply lines. Maybe it's a combination of the above or something else entirely.
Like I said. I've been aware for a long time about current gun scramble and ammo being expensive. But the ridiculous auction prices were quiet a shock. I remember when I was younger the same gun buying frenzy going on when the clintons were in the White House. But then ammo did not go so crazy either. "Head in the sand" or no- we should be worried.
Originally Posted by redrooster
Like I said. I've been aware for a long time about current gun scramble and ammo being expensive. But the ridiculous auction prices were quiet a shock. I remember when I was younger the same gun buying frenzy going on when the clintons were in the White House. But then ammo did not go so crazy either. "Head in the sand" or no- we should be worried.
This same behavior was exhibited right after Obama's first election. IMO it wasn't quite as bad, but it went on longer than the current shortages have, thus far. They seemingly are easing, but who knows?
The Second Amendment that we hold so near and dear does not mention ammos...

Ammo control equals gun control.
Saw a guy purchase 100 rounds of 9MM in Wally's today for twenty-five bucks, more was available at the same price
Originally Posted by redrooster
Ladies and gentlemen..... I'm worried. I've been noticing for the last year gun prices have really jumped and I knew that each year they do usually increase. But the ammo prices are really what speaks the loudest. Today my dad said he saw a bulk 555 pack of winchester 22lr on gunbroker bid up to $75 and another lot for over $100!!!!! I said" you're not doing something right" let me check. Sure enough he was right. Yeah I try to pick up a brick a month from Walmart and their about $30. Bought some 2 weeks ago. Now look. It never ceases to amaze me the ignorance of the general public. Can they not see? Curb gun violence by taxing ammo beyond insanity or take guns away????? Our government are our employees! And we allow them to raise taxes, and spend frivolously, tell us what to do, where to go and when. Etc,etc,etc. WE'RE IN TROUBLE.


Its getting so bad I'm nearly down to 10,000 rounds per gun.
It will turn out to be a real good thing we had this shortage!!!!! Honest, Sinse "O" got in office gun ownership is way up. Even my sisters neighbor flipped. She hated guns,, wated to ban them,,, were evil,,,.. Then one day she blurted out I'M BUYING A HAND GUN!!! Sis asked why??? She said I'm 55 yrs old living in the boonies.. If someone comes to my door noone will find me for 2 days. I need to defend myself. This is happeneing all over the USA by the millions. I bett we have 10 million new gun owners in this country in the last 4 1/2 years. These guys need ammo, they are not even a good shot yet, they need practice and are putting a stain on supplies. My wife for the first time got serious about defending herself now that she is home all day. My wife, 2 sisters and a neice are getting guns and concealed carry. They are comng to my gun club as guests and use up ammo, but now we have 3 new women that went ho hum on guns to avid gun owners. May be cause C.C. passed in Wisconsin, I don't know. Remington announced a 32 million dollars expansion the other day so they must think the demand is here to stay for a long time.
Preaching to the choir. The second amendment states both keeping and bearing arms and a well REGULATED militia. Now comes the argument part; the regulation then did not refer to strong control, but to having equipment (including ammunition) that was of the norm. Think regular army opposed to geurillas, or sports. So at home this means having a more or less standard caliber that can be used by neighbors, and similar MILITARY wepaons.

The .22's still bug me the most, this is the starter caliber for new shooters, and from what I read, they do not come from the same lines as centerfire.
I'm encouraged to hear some people are finding ammo. That's not the case around here. I haven't been able to find a single round of .22 at Bass Pro, Scheels, Sportsman Outfitters, or Walmart. Powder and bullets for 45acp, 10/40, 223 have dried up too. Went out and made the rounds yesterday and could only find one box of TSX 53 grains. I'm not hurting yet, had a decent stock laid in for a time like this, but would like to see some stock on the shelves again.
Originally Posted by kennyd
Preaching to the choir. The second amendment states both keeping and bearing arms and a well REGULATED militia. Now comes the argument part; the regulation then did not refer to strong control, but to having equipment (including ammunition) that was of the norm. Think regular army opposed to geurillas, or sports. So at home this means having a more or less standard caliber that can be used by neighbors, and similar MILITARY wepaons.

The .22's still bug me the most, this is the starter caliber for new shooters, and from what I read, they do not come from the same lines as centerfire.


Thank you.

I wish more folks truly understood "Regulated" and what it REALLY meant in the language of the times when 2 A was drafted.

Greg
It is picking up for the better in western SD. Local Cabelas had shotshell,pistol and rifle primers as well as a selection of powder that COULD get you by. Everytime I stop there the bullet selection is better. Centerfire rifle and pistol ammo in all calibers. They get some rimfire ammo once or twice a week, limit you to one box and it doesn't last the day in the store. This go around has been educational and informative it depends on how you look at it. A lot of folks on this forum call 270 Win ownership "gay" but every gunshop or sptg store around has had 270 ammo and components All thru this shortage. Could have bought all the factory ammo and bullets for any 270 and alot of 25's around here. 17's and 20's no problem,lightweight .243's no problem,heavy 6's forget it. 6.5 bullets some and 7's and 30's almost extinct in useable weights.Something to be learned about everything that happens, but some never learn . We saw all this crap in the Clinton years and the fall of 08 when o got elected.Yeah I know alot of people who buy a box of shells the night before they need them some know better now and some don't. guess I am not worried about the turkeys either. Imagine if you will the shortages were for food, medicine, fuel,drinkable water, clothes, jobs or just some politicians with common sense? Coming soon near you. Magnum Man
Lesson is: have a gun in every chambering. Then, no matter what's available, you will have something to shoot. grin
Originally Posted by mog75
It censored me! How else could I describe someone paying $60 for remington rimfires?


Use AZZ. wink
Originally Posted by kennyd
Preaching to the choir. The second amendment states both keeping and bearing arms and a well REGULATED militia. Now comes the argument part; the regulation then did not refer to strong control, but to having equipment (including ammunition) that was of the norm. Think regular army opposed to geurillas, or sports. So at home this means having a more or less standard caliber that can be used by neighbors, and similar MILITARY wepaons.



Oh Crap!

You mean I am obligated to go buy an AR and ten thousand rounds of 5.56. Oh the pain!
Originally Posted by BarryC
Lesson is: have a gun in every chambering. Then, no matter what's available, you will have something to shoot. grin


Yup, that is how I figure it to and keep stocked up , can't make you less money than your pass book acct. Magnum Man
http://highcountryammunition.com/22-lr-36gr-federal-copper-plated-hp-1-260-fps-525-rounds/ This is the exact same ammo I bought a couple weeks ago at scheels for $16.99. Looks like someone is making the most of a bad situation.
I put those on my "never trade with list". miles
mog75, that is exactly what I am talking about. I've allways been into learning life's lessons as inexpensively as possible. Alot of people have to pay out of the butt big time to get the same lessons learned "turkeys". I figure this last go around after the previous 2 and you haven't learned to keep an adequate inventory for your own use ,it's nobodies fault but yours. Magnum Man
Central banks infusing planet loads of debt into the credit systems will also land into the US in the form of much higher prices and shortages eventually, despite the benign inflation "reporting."

Perhaps some day, the major media may actually undertake something as technically difficult as a 10 year price comparison of real assets for the sake of the suffering taxpayer...or they may just stick to celebrity coverage.

Am not holding my breath anticipating cheaper pricing...hopefully that assumption will be incorrect.
Originally Posted by kennyd
The .22's still bug me the most, this is the starter caliber for new shooters, and from what I read, they do not come from the same lines as centerfire.
I feel the same. Unless amazing numbers of people are using stacked cases of it as furniture in their homes, stockpiling demand should long ago have been satisfied, and the suppliers caught up to user demand.

As for myself, I've maintained in the neighborhood of ten thousand rounds of .22 rimfire for about twenty years now, replacing what I use along the way, oldest first. But I've pretty much stopped shooting (and thus stopped buying) it since prices went crazy post-Sandy-Hook.
Wish we had something like Scheels in these parts. Not saying that there are not some negative gov/political forces affecting the situation, but some of the problem has to lie with the consumers.

At a smaller gun show near here yesterday, watched a guy pay $60 for a carton of 525 rounds of common .22LR. - and he was a VENDOR with his own big table overloaded with other ammo types.

I looked over at an acquaintance at the next table with rifles for sale (who was shaking his head) and asked him when he last bought any such ammo - he smiled and said "about 2 years ago".

Sometimes we do it to ourselves.
Originally Posted by GeoW
The Second Amendment that we hold so near and dear does not mention ammos...

Ammo control equals gun control.



Guns and ammo ... one is worthless without the other.
Originally Posted by redrooster
Like I said. I've been aware for a long time about current gun scramble and ammo being expensive. But the ridiculous auction prices were quiet a shock. I remember when I was younger the same gun buying frenzy going on when the clintons were in the White House. But then ammo did not go so crazy either. "Head in the sand" or no- we should be worried.


Methinks we have a troll...
Originally Posted by Kimber7man

Methinks we have a troll...


Likely conclusion.

If 'we' stop buying ammo we don't need because it is 'scarce', then maybe it won't be scarce anymore.

Neighbor yelled to let me know he had scored three 525 packs of 22 at local big box. I asked him how many he shot last year. He said maybe 200. Go figure.
I just ordered 500 .40s for $140 shipped, like I do about every month. .223 is back in stock now too.
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
I just ordered 500 .40s for $140 shipped, like I do about every month. .223 is back in stock now too.


That seem like a good deal...

Snake
Well were I usually go to in my neck of CT, shotgun shells no problem, turkey loads not a problem, 7mm Remington Magnum, I shoot one, its on the shelf some 270's too, 30-06 is short, no 308 , 223, 9mm 40cal 45 cal, or 22 LR. I have not been up to East Hartford so I don't know what is on the shelf at Cabelas, a friend of mine was up there a few weeks back and said they had lots of 17HMR and some 22LR but he as the attention span of a mosquito! I plan on laying in some more 7mm RM, just so that I have it and not have to comply with the new laws here, I should be moving as soon as I find employment in some other state, I am looking to go West or back to Alaska. And I will never return to CT. I was stupid in 2006 coming down from Alaska to go to a funeral and I got roped into something I didn't want to do. Oh well
Went to a gunshow this weekend. Decent amount of ammo if you wanted to drop $35 for a box of standard 243 core-lokts.
Just read a post on Facebook from one of my old high school buddies that works at the Remington plant complaining about the lack of .22lr. He said Remington is up to almost 7 million rounds of .22lr a day, but he can't get his hands on any of it. I have only seen .22lr in one place here since Nov, so I bought a few boxes, just not enough.
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
I just ordered 500 .40s for $140 shipped, like I do about every month. .223 is back in stock now too.


You got a link? Can't just post 40 ammo at .28 cents per round.. Without helping a brother out. smile
Originally Posted by Coach_W
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
I just ordered 500 .40s for $140 shipped, like I do about every month. .223 is back in stock now too.


You got a link? Can't just post 40 ammo at .28 cents per round.. Without helping a brother out. smile


http://atlantaarmsandammo.com/

Call em and see if they're taking new customers, they weren't back around February.
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