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Posted By: RWE bad sign - 08/26/13
Was asked to do an emergency hydrographic survey over the weekend, which is cool. It's something out of the ordinary, and the commensurate price schedule for weekend work and all.

But when you show up at the site to get ready and see this:

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it kind of sets the tone for the days events.
Posted By: TheOldTree Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Does that slow you down a little?
Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Made things go quicker, in fact.
Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
On a side note, being this close from shutting off the raw water intake to half a county certainly brings out one's inner "Dennis the Menace"

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Posted By: eyeball Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Water- unreal.
Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
we have lakes of the stuff.

Running out of places to put it.
Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
I did note that while I was there, I didn't see a single rattler that the superintendent indicated as the reason for the repellant.

Water moccasins. That was a different story.
Posted By: eyeball Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Originally Posted by RWE
we have lakes of the stuff.

Running out of places to put it.


Damn. Fish too?
Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Fish? Hell yeah!

Getting fed up with 'em.

I just start throwing them out of the boat after they jump in.

Had to kick a few of em off the bank, because all the eagle's flying around made it hard to get a shot with my survey instrument.
Posted By: ingwe Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Sooooooo...I never heard of Snake Repelling granules...what are they?
Posted By: northern_dave Re: bad sign - 08/26/13

Originally Posted by ingwe
Sooooooo...I never heard of Snake Repelling granules...what are they?


Little job applications?

Wait... That's ape repelling....

Never mind.

Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Originally Posted by ingwe
Sooooooo...I never heard of Snake Repelling granules...what are they?


First I saw of them, bro.

Can't say they did or didn't work; because I did see snakes, just not around me directly.

Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Originally Posted by northern_dave
Little job applications?

Wait... That's ape repelling....

Never mind.



I had a pocket full of thug repelling granules.

each one was a composite, with roughly 148 gr of lead and copper.....
Posted By: northern_dave Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
nice
Posted By: APDDSN0864 Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Like these?

I was bush hogging around the lower pond Saturday and these two appeared at my feet when I moved the jon boat to mow around it.
For scale, that my Marlin Mountie that rides on my tractor. grin

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Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
where's Mackay.

He'll know for sure... laugh
Posted By: Redneck Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Originally Posted by RWE
we have lakes of the stuff.

Running out of places to put it.
CAn ya send a few million gallons here? We're dry as Melba toast and burnin' up what little is left... mad
Posted By: toltecgriz Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Originally Posted by ingwe
Sooooooo...I never heard of Snake Repelling granules...what are they?


Add water, they turn into a mongoose.
Posted By: bruinruin Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Originally Posted by ingwe
Sooooooo...I never heard of Snake Repelling granules...what are they?


The snake repelling pellets I use are made of lead. One use will repel that particular snake permanently. grin
Posted By: ingwe Re: bad sign - 08/26/13
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Like these?

I was bush hogging around the lower pond Saturday and these two appeared at my feet when I moved the jon boat to mow around it.
For scale, that my Marlin Mountie that rides on my tractor. grin

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Hard to identify the one on the left, but he looks like one of a dozen species of harmless water snake. The one on the right ain't harmless, I guarantee.....
Posted By: eyeball Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
Originally Posted by RWE
Fish? Hell yeah!

Getting fed up with 'em.

I just start throwing them out of the boat after they jump in.

Had to kick a few of em off the bank, because all the eagle's flying around made it hard to get a shot with my survey instrument.


Heaven
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
Originally Posted by RWE
Was asked to do an emergency hydrographic survey over the weekend, which is cool. It's something out of the ordinary, and the commensurate price schedule for weekend work and all.

But when you show up at the site to get ready and see this:

[Linked Image]

it kind of sets the tone for the days events.
A political rally I presume?
Posted By: APDDSN0864 Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
Originally Posted by ingwe

Hard to identify the one on the left, but he looks like one of a dozen species of harmless water snake. The one on the right ain't harmless, I guarantee.....


The one on the left has just as an impressive set of fangs as the one on the right and they were curled up together. I didn't wait to check ID's after I saw the big one lift its head. grin

This is a little better picture of the head of the lighter one. You can see the triangular head a little better.

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Normally, I don't shoot snakes because I like rats even less, but any venomous snake around the house is dead. I have young nieces and a nephew due to visit the ranch in a couple of weeks and I don't want them finding one of these.

Ed
Posted By: eh76 Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
Originally Posted by ingwe
Sooooooo...I never heard of Snake Repelling granules...what are they?


22 lr
Posted By: g5m Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
That is a bad sign.

The 'Fire is a popular place and another bad sign is:

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Posted By: prairie dog shooter Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
Those are both cotton mouth moccasins, look at the tails. The triangle shape of the head just got shot or stomped out of shape on one I'd bet.

A nonvenomous water snake doesn't have a definite, sudden transition from body to tail. It's all gradual taper. You are right about the shape of a pit viper head, but that one appears misshapen.
Posted By: APDDSN0864 Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
Shot in the head is the correct diagnosis. The smaller one has some impressive cavities in its body due to the CCI subsonic HP's running lengthwise through its body as it was moving. grin

The smaller ones fangs were just as long as the bigger one. With them all curled up together I was curious if one was a female (the larger) and one a male. This is the first light colored venomous snake I've killed here that wasn't a Copperhead.

Ed
Posted By: gunner500 Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
Originally Posted by eh76
Originally Posted by ingwe
Sooooooo...I never heard of Snake Repelling granules...what are they?


22 lr


12 ga. 1-1/8th ounce #7.5's grin.

Gunner
Posted By: websterparish47 Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
Looking at the picture, the first snake I identified as a cotton mouth was the brownish(lighter colored) one as most I've killed were that color. Have seen a few darker ones too.
Posted By: RWE Re: bad sign - 08/27/13
most the cotton mouths I've seen around here have their banding a little more defined.

Don't know if that's because they're younger, or getting a better tan, or what.

Of course, asking their age is a low priority.
Posted By: websterparish47 Re: bad sign - 08/30/13
I saw one with black and green banding just before I stepped on him. Almost three inches in diameter and just over two feet long, minus his head and little of his body.
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: bad sign - 08/30/13
Originally Posted by websterparish47
Looking at the picture, the first snake I identified as a cotton mouth was the brownish(lighter colored) one as most I've killed were that color. Have seen a few darker ones too.


We get them from that color to coal black around here. I agree with the 12 ga. #7 1/2 approach to snake repellant, I can't see how you can throw those little granule thingies hard enough to properly repel a water moccasin. Anything that doesn't immediately identify itself as non-poisonous gets the 12 ga. treatment from me, I apologize to them afterwards if I mistakenly kill a harmless one. I've got cats to deal with the rats.
Posted By: curdog4570 Re: bad sign - 08/30/13
It's hard to see the ends of the tails because of shadows in the pics, but they appear to taper to a fine point.. Cottonmouths and copperheads have blunt tails.

But... if they have fangs, they ain't just plain old slim tailed moccasins which some DO have a little bit of a triangular head, but they ain't as flat headed as a venomous snake.
Posted By: slumlord Re: bad sign - 08/30/13
naphthalene (moth balls) is what the active ingredient is in some commercially offered "snake away" here down south

or you can just go to the dollar store and get moth balls instead of paying the extra coin for the hyped up label.


and then, it's questionable as to if the chit even works. As a former PCO, that's why I just told folks to buy it themselves while other pest control dudes charged an extra $50 for a "snake repellent"


whuteva

I tossed a few out at my place just for the hell of it, barn cats take care of most of the snakes and if they die from a venomous snakebite, fuggem. Cats are free, there's [bleep] up usually on the sidewalk outside Toys R Us being given away by girl scouts. Sure, I'll take a fresh one. lol


btw, best snake trap is submersed minnow trap. I've caught several copperheads (not cottonmoufs) in the spring branch beside the house here, also inadvertantly catch a few harmless brightly colored banded water snakes. Oh well, the minnow trap is no respector of brands. Leave the snakes to rot a couple weeks, viola- the trap is full of crawdads. Time to go fishing for bullhead catfish. Get some beer.
Posted By: APDDSN0864 Re: bad sign - 08/30/13
Originally Posted by curdog4570
It's hard to see the ends of the tails because of shadows in the pics, but they appear to taper to a fine point.. Cottonmouths and copperheads have blunt tails.

But... if they have fangs, they ain't just plain old slim tailed moccasins which some DO have a little bit of a triangular head, but they ain't as flat headed as a venomous snake.


The ones around your area must be well fed, 'cause every moccasin and Copperhead I've killed here has had a slim, pointed tail. The moccasins all have that chunky body that abruptly goes to the skinny tip. The Copperheads here have all been slender, but with a defined break from body to slim tail.

I have yet to ask any of them their ancestry if they're anywhere close to the house. I only speak gunpowder and lead and they don't have much to say... grin

Ed
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