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Posted By: aalf For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14

Blow me....

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For all the tax money used to build that thing, you can now go sit in your own your TAX-i cab.
Or one could stock up on Uncle Bens and drive a foreign named car with a bed and send the profits to the emperor. wink
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Or one could stock up on Uncle Bens and drive a foreign named car with a bed and send the profits to the emperor. wink

I buy the 5 quart house brand, as I put enough Hershey's on to muffle it...
sick LOL
Posted By: ingwe Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
You have some Freudian issues�. grin
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
For all the tax money used to build that thing, you can now go sit in your own your TAX-i cab.

I'll let you fret the politics, I drive what I want....
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by aalf

Blow me....

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Thank You!
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by ingwe
You have some Freudian issues�. grin

I'll get my people on that too.....




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Posted By: ingwe Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Are they tall skinny people, or short fat ones? shocked
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by ingwe
Are they tall skinny people, or short fat ones? shocked

Yes....
Posted By: ingwe Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
laugh


Then that would explain why you can drive the big boy truck, but still feel confident shooting a .22-204 wink
Posted By: BarryC Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by aalf

Blow me....


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What was it that made you decide to buy that? The Chevy commercial with the 2 guys getting "married"? laugh
Originally Posted by aalf

Blow me....

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So ...

Are you going to put an Obama/Biden bumper sticker on it?


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Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by BarryC
What was it that made you decide to buy that? The Chevy commercial with the 2 guys getting "married"?

Again, I buy what I want, not swayed by your commercial....
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by fish head
Are you going to put an Obama/Biden bumper sticker on it?

My usual Harley-Davidson emblem in the rear window.....
regular cab pickup.. I didn't know they still made those.
Posted By: roundoak Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
When you are out on HWY 18 and you meet a guy with a black Ford 250 pulling a stock trailer and gives you a howdy wave, that would be me. The guys giving you a finger could very well be other fire members. grin

Oh, and, nice truck.
Note that I made no inference about YOU, aalf. Only about GM.

By all means buy what you want. Do be aware of the Subaru Stigma, however. Others do make assumptions about you based on what you drive. Just sayin'
That must have increased Government Motors truck sales 10%.
Posted By: Huntz Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by aalf

Blow me....

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Nuttin wrong wit a Cheby!!!!! grin



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Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
regular cab pickup.. I didn't know they still made those.

This is my first one since my 1990.

Odd seeing the rear window so close....
I like the camouflage, it works well in those surroundings.
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
It'll be green around here eventually....so they say....
That's ok, you still match for 9 months of the year....
I still love regular cab trucks.

They're like hammers. Simple and effective.

Plus they look better.
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
So, just to be clear, this is not a new truck, it's a 2011 model. I've been on the lookout for the last several months keeping an eye out for a decent used truck. I wanted a Chevy Work truck, as it was the bare bones model, as in vinyl floor mats, crank windows, manual locks, AM/FM, etc. Any option over and above the base was gravy. Short box models were really few and far between, I just didn't know if that's what I really wanted....

I had spied this truck on the innerweb, and after 3-4 weeks of it still being there, I called the dealer up ( just north of Chitcago, never again) and made a tentative trade on the horn.

So to highlight it, 2011 Work Truck, 31K, V-6, two wheel drive, locking differential, suspension package, which makes it sit up like a FWD (and ride like one), touch pad AM/FM/CD with GPS, power windows/locks, remote starter, trailer hitch, bed mat, and had a Husky tool box that I took out.

It was at a Dodge dealer that couldn't sell it, and I had a Caravan that I traded....win/win. Plus it still has 5K of factory bumper to bumper, and the 5/1K power train warranty.



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Posted By: SuperCub Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
I wouldn't drive a GM to a dog fight, or a Dodge for that matter.

Years of driving 1/2 ton work trucks brought me to that.
Needs bigger wheel wells.
Now that's an ugly truck!
Posted By: Ackman Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
For all the tax money used to build that thing, you can now go sit in your own your TAX-i cab.


Screw you Raab. I also drive a Chev truck. No tax money was used for it. Just sayin..........
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
A Z71 work truck?
Believe that's the first one I've ever seen, didn't know they were made.
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by Backroads
Needs bigger wheel wells.

That's the suspension package with 245's in the holes.

I'd love to stick 285's on it but I don't wanna suffer the mileage loss....
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by TBREW401
A Z71 work truck?
Believe that's the first one I've ever seen, didn't know they were made.

That's why I originally called them, as it was advertised as a 2 wheel drive, but had the Z71 stickers.

I'm guessing the previous owner put them on, as the Z71 package is Bilsteen gas shocks, skid plates, and 265 tires.
Posted By: efw Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by Ackman
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
For all the tax money used to build that thing, you can now go sit in your own your TAX-i cab.


Screw you Raab. I also drive a Chev truck. No tax money was used for it. Just sayin..........


I don't believe he was talking about aalf getting entitlement dollars but of the gov't saving GM.

In that sense, there were plenty of tax dollars used for any of their post-bailout products.
your money spend it how you see fit aalf


no heartburn here over the deal


but this last GMC truck '02, is just that for me, the last


bout decided I'm going over to the dark side of Ford
Originally Posted by ingwe
laugh


Then that would explain why you can drive the big boy truck, but still feel confident shooting a .22-204 wink


It's a half ton that's not a big boys truck
Posted By: RRA223 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Ive been seeing a lot of 2wd chevy's with Z-71 stickers lately, I think they are coming from the factory that way now. I also believe that Chevy's are still the best gas pickups out there.
Posted By: gene270 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
spend your money how you see fit.......I am sure a lot of these folks talking smack have items from china, japan, vietnam, and elsewhere..... at least your money helped some Americans out
Posted By: kududude Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14

aalf,

I've driven Chevys since 1959 and have never had a moments problem with any of them.

Currently, I'm driving a 2010 CC/SB LTZ 4X4 Z-71 with every possible option and it may just be the finest truck I've ever owned.

Good luck with yours, not that you need it ... you now own a fine rig.

kd
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by RRA223
Ive been seeing a lot of 2wd chevy's with Z-71 stickers lately, I think they are coming from the factory that way now.

You're right. I just got done with a little research, and found that it's the suspension and locking differential option available on 2 wheel drives. So the stickers are legit.
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by kududude
I've driven Chevys since 1959 and have never had a moments problem with any of them.
Currently, I'm driving a 2010 CC/SB LTZ 4X4 Z-71 with every possible option and it may just be the finest truck I've ever owned.
Good luck with yours, not that you need it ... you now own a fine rig.

This is my run around every day bomber.

I have a loaded 4X4 extended cab Z71 Colorado for my get outta Dodge vehicle.

The two truck will have watch duty over my "73" Z-28.

My Chevy blood has always run deep.....

Posted By: Foxbat Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Z71 on a 2wd?

That's like putting Z28 on a 4 cylinder Camaro.

GM has gone full retard. Obviously the marketing department now runs the manufacturer.
Chevy owners have little penises.
Posted By: Huntz Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by kududude
I've driven Chevys since 1959 and have never had a moments problem with any of them.
Currently, I'm driving a 2010 CC/SB LTZ 4X4 Z-71 with every possible option and it may just be the finest truck I've ever owned.
Good luck with yours, not that you need it ... you now own a fine rig.

This is my run around every day bomber.

I have a loaded 4X4 extended cab Z71 Colorado for my get outta Dodge vehicle.

The two truck will have watch duty over my "73" Z-28.

My Chevy blood has always run deep.....



Throw a couple hundred pounds of sand over that rear axel and that locking differential will go just about anywhere 4 wheel drive will.
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Chevy owners have little penises.

All I see is penis envy.....
Originally Posted by aalf

Blow me....

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Plastic bumpers for when the going gets tough grin
Yup--I've seen a lot of snow plowed with a 2-wheel drive truck with weight in the back. A LOT!
Posted By: euge Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
I have a 2001 Chevy 2500 HD. This is the 14th year I've been plowing with it. It's getting a workout this year, but just keeps going.

When it finally dies, my company will buy me a new one, but this is turning into the best investment my co. ever made.
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Plastic bumpers for when the going gets tough

Fluckkin' right, that's why I wanted the Work truck.

Unlike some that spend all their time on the innerweb, I actually get out and do schitt.

This is where I do most of my shooting at LR. By mid-summer it's a field of thistles, so I like the cheap ass plastic up front to plow through with:

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I hope you automatic hubs, so you don't stain your pants.
Posted By: RRA223 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Chevy owners have little penises.


Well, I wish I could argue with that!
Posted By: okok Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Nice looking truck for a Chevy. wink
Posted By: Foxbat Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Plastic bumpers for when the going gets tough

Fluckkin' right, that's why I wanted the Work truck.

Unlike some that spend all their time on the innerweb, I actually get out and do schitt.


With a 2wd and street tires?

Whatever schitt it is you do..... must not be far off the paved road. laugh

Just messing with you, enjoy your truck.
Originally Posted by MadMooner
I still love regular cab trucks.

They're like hammers. Simple and effective.

Plus they look better.


I second that. I have a 4 door and all it does is accumulate more crap. I have to have a four door or I couldn't haul my whole clan.

O yeah, nice truck hope you enjoy it.
Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by Foxbat
With a 2wd and street tires?
Whatever schitt it is you do..... must not be far off the paved road. laugh
Just messing with you, enjoy your truck.

All in good fun...

Actually I have a set of BFG T/K KO's coming for the rear.

As long as it's dry, I can get to my spot in TWD, even though I have to cross a creek, cross a frame twister ditch, and crawl the hill to the top. It's a cattle pasture too, so the truck tends to smell like cowshitt most of the time....
Posted By: dave7mm Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by efw
... but of the gov't saving GM.....

And the 1000s and 1000s of non union parts supplier jobs that GM,Ford and Mopar need to build cars with.

dave
Posted By: 6MMWASP Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Nice truck Alan! Congrats
Posted By: slg888 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Nice ride Al, my Silverado has been good to me.
Posted By: efw Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/22/14
Free markets only work if there is a downside to a bad investment. The gov't didn't do anyone any favors in the long run when they saved GM. As you point out, there were 2 other major car companies that'd have bought parts from those suppliers and it's highly doubtful that GM would have simply disappeared if the normal chain of events had continued.

Gov't involvement in markets is BAD. Allowing dirtbags like those in Washington to chose winners and losers is BAD.

Disincenting careful inspection of potential investments through gov't saving people from losses is BAD.

It is highly likely that this truck and the parts suppliers all would still be here had Obama not stepped in. The fact that "conservatives" defend his intervention speaks clearly to the sad state of so-called "conservatism" in this country.
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Chevy owners have little penises.

All I see is penis envy.....


Well quit looking in your mirror.
Posted By: SKane Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
My Silverado is a work truck too. grin grin

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Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14

Looks like the work is over.... wink
Posted By: roundoak Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
My Silverado(former)work truck.

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Posted By: aalf Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
You know you have braggin' material when horns are showing above the box...
Posted By: roundoak Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
Originally Posted by aalf
You know you have braggin' material when horns are showing above the box...


Nah! Optical illusion...Big Stick/Boxer taught me the photography technique. grin
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Chevy owners have little penises.


Hey now dangit, my pecker might be short but by gosh its skinny. lol
Posted By: jdm953 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
How much of that truck is made in America.
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Posted By: walt501 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
Originally Posted by jdm953
How much of that truck is made in America.
Originally Posted by aalf

Blow me....

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How much of the PROFIT from the original sale went to America?
Posted By: 16bore Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
I'll pass on Faux Wheel Drive...


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Posted By: dave7mm Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
Be sure when you get your ford pickup truck that it has the
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So that you dont freeze your hands when you have to push it.


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Posted By: rost495 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
For all the tax money used to build that thing, you can now go sit in your own your TAX-i cab.

I'll let you fret the politics, I drive what I want....


Thats a great attitude to have. We do the same!
Aalf,

Enjoy. I come from a GM town and have driven GM vehicles most of my life. I had a couple of cars that were less than stellar but the trucks have been great. A lot of my friends trailer extensively and all of it has been with GM trucks.

I am also of the opinion it is my money and I'll do what I want with it.

Jim
Posted By: eyeball Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
Originally Posted by SKane
My Silverado is a work truck too. grin grin

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Nice uh, trucks, SK and RO.
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Chevy owners have little penises.


hah, not true, ask your ol' lady. :-D
The second week of January this year the Fed completely rid themselves of GM. I also read that GM then had an IPO on stock.
When you spell Ford backward it says Driver returns on foot!
Originally Posted by acooper1983
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Chevy owners have little penises.


hah, not true, ask your ol' lady. :-D



I would, but she's at the garage getting her Chevy fixed!
Posted By: eyeball Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
Originally Posted by acooper1983
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Chevy owners have little penises.


hah, not true, ask your ol' lady. :-D


She told him that to make him feel better. wink
Posted By: eyeball Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/23/14
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Originally Posted by acooper1983
Originally Posted by RogueHunter
Chevy owners have little penises.


hah, not true, ask your ol' lady. :-D



I would, but she's at the garage getting her Chevy fixed!
she said. wink

Was she have problems getting cranked?


Never, she gets to ride in this:

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Posted By: remfak Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
People have a right to buy whatever brands they want, but I must say I saw a brand new Chevy truck displayed at the Midland, Texas airport the other day and that damn thing was uuuuugggglllyyyy!
Posted By: rost495 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by efw
... but of the gov't saving GM.....

And the 1000s and 1000s of non union parts supplier jobs that GM,Ford and Mopar need to build cars with.

dave


Anything non union is a good thing.
Posted By: Oldman03 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
I dont hate chevy, I hate that the government spent taxpayer money to bail them out and lost approx. 10 billion dollars when they finished selling the gm stock.

The gov. didnt bail my business out when I needed it, so when the gov. pays me back my tax money, they spent on gm, and compensates me for my business, then and only then will I consider a gm product.

By-the-way, I paid everyone I owed, every cent that was owed, when my business failed.
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
For all the tax money used to build that thing, you can now go sit in your own your TAX-i cab.

I'll let you fret the politics, I drive what I want....


There's plenty of people with no standards, no problem.
Posted By: 16penny Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Q: How do you double the value of a Chevy?
A: Put gas in it.

Q: How is a golf ball different from a Chevy?
A: You can drive a golf ball 200 yards.

Q. What do you call a Chevy at the top of a hill?
A. A miracle?

Q. What do you call two Chevy's at the top of a hill?
A. A mirage.

"Chevy, built like a rock and runs like one too."


these are just some Ive owned all of the big three and would agin right now i have an 01 f250 4x4 crew caab lariat diesel i bought new and have put 250,000 miles and am hopeing nothing goes wrong with it I do trust it completly though did the transmition at about 175,000 the tranny used to run 100 degrees above ambient temp till i got a tripple disc tork converter and bigger clutches now it doesn"t even get warm pulling a bobcat up 12 miles and 4500" 0f steep grade the door locks dont always open with the clicker any more though
Posted By: AB2506 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by Huntz
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by kududude
I've driven Chevys since 1959 and have never had a moments problem with any of them.
Currently, I'm driving a 2010 CC/SB LTZ 4X4 Z-71 with every possible option and it may just be the finest truck I've ever owned.
Good luck with yours, not that you need it ... you now own a fine rig.

This is my run around every day bomber.

I have a loaded 4X4 extended cab Z71 Colorado for my get outta Dodge vehicle.

The two truck will have watch duty over my "73" Z-28.

My Chevy blood has always run deep.....



Throw a couple hundred pounds of sand over that rear axel and that locking differential will go just about anywhere 4 wheel drive will.


Close, but no it won't. Just fiction propagated by people who don't own a 4x4 and wish they did. smile

Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by efw
... but of the gov't saving GM.....

And the 1000s and 1000s of non union parts supplier jobs that GM,Ford and Mopar need to build cars with.

dave


Anything non union is a good thing.


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Posted By: walt501 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Oh I see the Toyota boys have finally shown up in force.

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Posted By: tzone Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Well... Somebody has to tow the Chebbies home. It might as well be a Toyota.
congrats on a nice truck.i bet half of these cry babies are driving junk toyota's .
Posted By: Redneck Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
For all the tax money used to build that thing, you can now go sit in your own your TAX-i cab.
A proper reposte, sir - and spot on..
The only way to make a Ford look good is to park it between two Dodges.
Why do Fords usually sustain very little damage in a head on collision? Because the Tow Truck takes all the damage.



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I didn't care for Chevy's before they became Government Motors, but it was never any of my business what other people drove before that.

If I did buy one, I would kinda have a problem with the fact that I was paying for it twice.
Originally Posted by RRA223
Ive been seeing a lot of 2wd chevy's with Z-71 stickers lately, I think they are coming from the factory that way now. I also believe that Chevy's are still the best gas pickups out there.


That's like putting a magnum sticker on an air rifle... lol
Posted By: W7ACT Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by Foxbat
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Plastic bumpers for when the going gets tough

Fluckkin' right, that's why I wanted the Work truck.

Unlike some that spend all their time on the innerweb, I actually get out and do schitt.


With a 2wd and CAR tires?

Whatever schitt it is you do..... must not be far off the paved road. laugh

Just messing with you, enjoy your truck.


There I fixed that for you.
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Meanwhile, back at the fire, AARF and EyeBall cannot bear the weight of being ostracized for their forbidden love affair with Chevys.


Last seen, they were in AARF's new 2WD, and were holding hands.
Off they went.......

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Posted By: W7ACT Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by srwshooter
congrats on a nice truck.i bet half of these cry babies are driving junk toyota's .


Nope, not here!

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Originally Posted by srwshooter
congrats on a nice truck.i bet half of these cry babies are driving junk toyota's .


I'll take that bet.
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Okay as a Chevy owner I'll admit it. Ford & Toyoder owners are big dicks... with teeny wankers!


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Good post sir.
Posted By: SoDakota Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
About 1/2 my trucks have been Fords and about 1/2 been Chevy's. Had one Jeep pickup and one Dodge pickup.
The worst truck was a 79 Ford with a 302. However, I had a Chevy S-10 Blazer that fought hard for the worst ever vehicle I've owned position. One of the best was a 78 Ford 3/4 ton with 400. One of the other really good trucks was a 4wd Chevy super-cab 1/2 ton 350 engine.
Had 1 tons and have had 1/2 tons and a couple 3/4 tons.
I don't like cars. I have only had one or two in the past couple of decades. Couldn't wait to sell them.
My current Chevy has about 160,000 on it gets about 27 mpg when driven at speed limit (rarely happens). I'm thinking Dodge 4 door 4wd. I imagine it could be my last truck.
By the time I'm ready for another truck, Guv'mint Motors will likely have gone the way of Pontiac. Not interested in Italian Jeeps or socially-engineered trucks.

215,000 miles and going strong.

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Posted By: walt501 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Tell me, how many Ford F-150's and Chevy Silverado's are sold in Japan? Don't be a Toyota terrorist, support your own country, with profits flowing to American companies to build the American economy.

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About the same number of Tundras that are sold in Japan... They don't have a market for them.

Besides, Tundras are built in San Antonio with 75% of the parts manufactured in the US.

Silverados - 62% of the parts are manufactured in the US. (let me know how long that Mexican transmission lasts...)


Posted By: walt501 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
About the same number of Tundras that are sold in Japan... They don't have a market for them.

Besides, Tundras are built in San Antonio with 75% of the parts manufactured in the US.

Silverados - 62% of the parts are manufactured in the US. (let me know how long that Mexican transmission lasts...)




75% U.S. parts? Really? Or are those parts made on U.S. soil by Toyota subsidiaries? And tell me, where do the profits go? Let's have a discussion on that, shall we? Since Toyota stock isn't listed on an American exchange, where do you think those profits are going?
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
About the same number of Tundras that are sold in Japan... They don't have a market for them.

Besides, Tundras are built in San Antonio with 75% of the parts manufactured in the US.

Silverados - 62% of the parts are manufactured in the US. (let me know how long that Mexican transmission lasts...)




And I thought the transmitions are built in Toledo Ohio...
Posted By: novalty Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy


Silverados - 62% of the parts are manufactured in the US. (let me know how long that Mexican transmission lasts...)


Hmm, I thought Allison made pretty good transmissions.
Posted By: levrluvr Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by RRA223
Ive been seeing a lot of 2wd chevy's with Z-71 stickers lately, I think they are coming from the factory that way now. I also believe that Chevy's are still the best gas pickups out there.


Chevrobama figured out a long time ago that you can even sell a Celebrity or Baretta if you put the letter 'Z' on it somewhere... grin
Posted By: 7 STW Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
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I love my 75% USA made Tundra....I could not bring myself to buy a 52% made in USA 2014 Chevy pickup. To each his own..I am going to drive what I Like and could care less what anyone else drives.
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
About the same number of Tundras that are sold in Japan... They don't have a market for them.

Besides, Tundras are built in San Antonio with 75% of the parts manufactured in the US.

Silverados - 62% of the parts are manufactured in the US. (let me know how long that Mexican transmission lasts...)




75% U.S. parts? Really? Or are those parts made on U.S. soil by Toyota subsidiaries? And tell me, where do the profits go? Let's have a discussion on that, shall we? Since Toyota stock isn't listed on an American exchange, where do you think those profits are going?


What stock exchange you lookin' at?

New York Stock Exchange http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=TM.

I'm guessing the profits go in your and my 401K. Now what?
Unfortunately it's not even that high of a percentage. According to the NHTSA, the 2014's are only 41% US and Canada origin combined. If that works for you, great. Buy it.


It could be 100% made in China and people would still buy solely on the nameplate. "Hey, at least it's an American brand!"
At the rate they are going in a few years it will be 100% Foreign made.



Originally Posted by thin_man
Unfortunately it's not even that high of a percentage. According to the NHTSA, the 2014's are only 41% US and Canada origin combined. If that works for you, great. Buy it.
It could be 100% made in China and people would still buy solely on the nameplate. "Hey, at least it's an American brand!"
Posted By: walt501 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/24/14
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
About the same number of Tundras that are sold in Japan... They don't have a market for them.

Besides, Tundras are built in San Antonio with 75% of the parts manufactured in the US.

Silverados - 62% of the parts are manufactured in the US. (let me know how long that Mexican transmission lasts...)




75% U.S. parts? Really? Or are those parts made on U.S. soil by Toyota subsidiaries? And tell me, where do the profits go? Let's have a discussion on that, shall we? Since Toyota stock isn't listed on an American exchange, where do you think those profits are going?


What stock exchange you lookin' at?

New York Stock Exchange http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=TM.

I'm guessing the profits go in your and my 401K. Now what?


Look closer - that's not Toyota common stock.

In the United States, Toyota stock is offered in the form of American Depositary Receipts (ADRs) on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). The ADRs are traded under the symbol TM on the NYSE and are based on shares traded in Japan. Each ADR represents two shares of Toyota common stock.

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What are American Depositary Receipts?

A negotiable certificate issued by a U.S. bank representing a specified number of shares (or one share) in a foreign stock that is traded on a U.S. exchange. ADRs are denominated in U.S. dollars, with the underlying security held by a U.S. financial institution overseas. ADRs help to reduce administration and duty costs that would otherwise be levied on each transaction.


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Why is the difference important? Because Toyota shares don't technically trade on any U.S. exchange, they are exempt from U.S. exchange reporting requirements. Just another way Toyota can hide their dealings in this country.

As for 401K investments, that's also worthy of a closer look.

Let's take a look at Ford Motor's major shareholders -

% of Shares Held by All Insider and 5% Owners: 0%
% of Shares Held by Institutional & Mutual Fund Owners: 54%
% of Float Held by Institutional & Mutual Fund Owners: 54%
Number of Institutions Holding Shares: 949

Top Institutional Holders
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
Evercore Trust Company, N.A. 226,292,166 5.84 3,491,688,121 Dec 31, 2013
Vanguard Group, Inc. (The) 189,185,464 4.88 2,919,131,709 Dec 31, 2013
State Street Corporation 165,044,263 4.26 2,546,632,978 Dec 31, 2013
Wellington Management Company, LLP 113,632,779 2.93 1,753,353,779 Dec 31, 2013
BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, N.A. 101,389,949 2.62 1,564,446,913 Dec 31, 2013
Northern Trust Corporation 49,066,858 1.27 757,101,618 Dec 31, 2013
Allianz Asset Management AG 44,496,886 1.15 686,586,950 Dec 31, 2013
Bank of New York Mellon Corporation 42,442,457 1.10 654,887,111 Dec 31, 2013
BlackRock Fund Advisors 34,736,449 0.90 535,983,408 Dec 31, 2013
Institutional Capital Corporation 34,234,155 0.88 528,233,011 Dec 31, 2013

Top Mutual Fund Holders
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund 56,301,689 1.45 949,809,493 Sep 30, 2013
Vanguard/Wellington Fund Inc. 38,588,880 1.00 659,098,070 Nov 30, 2013
Vanguard Institutional Index Fund-Institutional Index Fund 38,542,787 1.00 650,216,816 Sep 30, 2013
Vanguard 500 Index Fund 37,711,417 0.97 636,191,604 Sep 30, 2013
SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust 37,240,064 0.96 557,111,357 Jan 31, 2014
Hartford Capital Appreciation Fund 21,442,024 0.55 330,850,430 Dec 31, 2013
Allianz Fds-AllianzGI NFJ Dividend Value Fd 20,230,400 0.52 302,646,784 Jan 31, 2014
Spartan 500 Index Fund 16,459,861 0.42 253,975,655 Dec 31, 2013
iShares Core S&P 500 ETF 12,529,304 0.32 187,438,387 Jan 31, 2014
Select Sector SPDR Fund-Consumer Discretionary 12,043,581 0.31 180,171,971 Jan 31, 2014

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So, we see that a lot of AMERICAN hopes and dreams are riding on the performance, i.e. profit, of Ford Motor Company.

How about Toyota ADR's? Keep in mind these are percentage ownership of Toyota ADR's, not Toyota common stock -

Breakdown
% of Shares Held by All Insider and 5% Owners: NaN
% of Shares Held by Institutional & Mutual Fund Owners: NaN
% of Float Held by Institutional & Mutual Fund Owners: NaN
Number of Institutions Holding Shares:

Top Institutional Holders
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
Fisher Asset Management, LLC 4,565,198 0.29 556,588,940 Dec 31, 2013
Brandywine Global Investment Management, LLC 1,272,032 0.08 155,086,141 Dec 31, 2013
Thornburg Investment Management Inc. 1,244,170 0.08 151,689,206 Dec 31, 2013
Adage Capital Partners GP L.L.C. 875,000 0.06 106,680,000 Dec 31, 2013
Franklin Resources, Inc 745,460 0.05 90,886,483 Dec 31, 2013
Morgan Stanley 856,888 0.05 104,471,784 Dec 31, 2013
Brandes Investment Partners L.P. 671,010 0.04 81,809,539 Dec 31, 2013
Dimensional Fund Advisors LP 641,253 0.04 78,181,565 Dec 31, 2013
Northern Trust Corporation 585,586 0.04 71,394,645 Dec 31, 2013
Arrowstreet Capital, Limited Partnership 579,023 0.04 70,594,484 Dec 31, 2013

Top Mutual Fund Holders
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
American Beacon Large Cap Value Fd 806,800 0.05 98,365,056 Dec 31, 2013
DFA International Core Equity Portfolio 360,892 0.02 46,706,642 Oct 31, 2013
Fidelity Select Portfolios - Automotive 337,844 0.02 41,189,940 Dec 31, 2013
Franklin Templeton VIP-Foreign Securities Fund 291,181 0.02 35,500,787 Dec 31, 2013
Fidelity Leveraged Company Stock Fund 89,500 0.01 11,583,090 Oct 31, 2013
DFA Large Cap International Portfolio 94,713 0.01 12,257,756 Oct 31, 2013
Natixis Fds Tr I-CGM Advisor Targeted Equity Fd 145,000 0.01 17,678,400 Dec 31, 2013
Federated Equity Income Fund 180,300 0.01 22,546,515 Nov 30, 2013
SEI Institutional Managed Tr-Large Cap Value Fund 74,500 0.00 9,641,790 Oct 31, 2013
MML Series Investment Fund-MML Foreign Fund 57,405 0.00 7,349,562 Sep 30, 201

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Well look at that, not even 1% of Toyota ADR's are held by institutions and mutual funds, while 54% of Ford's outstanding common stock is funding the financial future of AMERICA and AMERICANS.

Now, who is funding my retirement?




It has been my observation that drivers of Chevrolets are more aggressive than drivers of other makes.
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
So, a post about Chevy lovers driving a T
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
So, a post about Chevy lovers driving a T Bird off a cliff??
Really---
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It has been my observation that drivers of Chevrolets are more aggressive than drivers of other makes.


Ifin ya don't like my drivin stay offa da sidewalk!
Originally Posted by KentuckyMountainMan
At the rate they are going in a few years it will be 100% Foreign made.



Originally Posted by thin_man
Unfortunately it's not even that high of a percentage. According to the NHTSA, the 2014's are only 41% US and Canada origin combined. If that works for you, great. Buy it.
It could be 100% made in China and people would still buy solely on the nameplate. "Hey, at least it's an American brand!"





You have to admit though, it is somewhat comforting to know that if one, such as myself, were to buy out a company like...say...Leupold. Come in, fire everyone in the US production line, and totally outsource the parts and assembly to Mexico, China, (take your pick of on-the-cheap country) etc., you'd still have the support of those such as Walt. Because after all, it's about that profit.

Originally Posted by walt501

I don't care where parts are made, only where profits go
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
Originally Posted by thin_man
Originally Posted by KentuckyMountainMan
At the rate they are going in a few years it will be 100% Foreign made.



Originally Posted by thin_man
Unfortunately it's not even that high of a percentage. According to the NHTSA, the 2014's are only 41% US and Canada origin combined. If that works for you, great. Buy it.
It could be 100% made in China and people would still buy solely on the nameplate. "Hey, at least it's an American brand!"







You have to admit though, it is somewhat comforting to know that if one, such as myself, were to buy out a company like...say...Leupold. Come in, fire everyone in the US production line, and totally outsource the parts and assembly to Mexico, China, (take your pick of on-the-cheap country) etc., you'd still have the support of those such as Walt. Because after all, it's about that profit.

Originally Posted by walt501

I don't care where parts are made, only where profits go



When did GM fire everyone and move all of it's production overseas?
No one suggested they did. It's the concept that it doesn't matter where the product is derived, only where profits go. I thought the point was quite clear in the post above. Guess not.
Posted By: tzone Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It has been my observation that drivers of Chevrolets are more aggressive than drivers of other makes.


They need to be. They have to get home before the truck craps out.
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It has been my observation that drivers of Chevrolets are more aggressive than drivers of other makes.


They need to be. They have to get home before the truck craps out.


Na... Were tryin to get home before the gay bars close and the fords/toyoders hit the road.
Originally Posted by aalf

Blow me....

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grin






That would make a nice privy.
Posted By: 7 STW Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It has been my observation that drivers of Chevrolets are more aggressive than drivers of other makes.


They need to be. They have to get home before the truck craps out.


Hardly. I've only walked outta the bush twice in my life. Both times it was the blue oval chitting the bed. I don't hate Ford just had better luck in a Chev. Plus women at least the hot ones like chevys more.
When you are as good looking as I am, it does not matter what you drive!!!!!!!! grin



Originally Posted by 7 STW
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It has been my observation that drivers of Chevrolets are more aggressive than drivers of other makes.


They need to be. They have to get home before the truck craps out.


Hardly. I've only walked outta the bush twice in my life. Both times it was the blue oval chitting the bed. I don't hate Ford just had better luck in a Chev. Plus women at least the hot ones like chevys more.
Originally Posted by walt501
Tell me, how many Ford F-150's and Chevy Silverado's are sold in Japan? Don't be a Toyota terrorist, support your own country, with profits flowing to American companies to build the American economy.

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now your talkin,a real american. they are rare breed these days.
Originally Posted by walt501
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
About the same number of Tundras that are sold in Japan... They don't have a market for them.

Besides, Tundras are built in San Antonio with 75% of the parts manufactured in the US.

Silverados - 62% of the parts are manufactured in the US. (let me know how long that Mexican transmission lasts...)




75% U.S. parts? Really? Or are those parts made on U.S. soil by Toyota subsidiaries? And tell me, where do the profits go? Let's have a discussion on that, shall we? Since Toyota stock isn't listed on an American exchange, where do you think those profits are going?


they like feedin those slant eyes. brain washed americans. how do you think we got obama.
take a look at this. 7 out of 12 are gm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/23/long-lasting-200000-miles/5704783/
There is not a car or truck made today that will not last 200,000 miles. Show me a report on how much it cost to keep that Chevy running for 200,000 compared to Toyota Honda Ford Dodge that would tell the whole story. My son just got rid of a 2005 Chevy pickup with 160,000 mile on it. three transmissions, 2 rear ends, could not keep the air conditioning working or the power windows, the motor was good no problems with it other than a few starters.
Posted By: eyeball Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
Originally Posted by KentuckyMountainMan
At the rate they are going in a few years it will be 100% Foreign made.



Originally Posted by thin_man
Unfortunately it's not even that high of a percentage. According to the NHTSA, the 2014's are only 41% US and Canada origin combined. If that works for you, great. Buy it.
It could be 100% made in China and people would still buy solely on the nameplate. "Hey, at least it's an American brand!"


We'll be lucky if we are allowed to drive anything if zer o and the libs get their way.
Thats the Truth.
Chevy (GM) has sold out to the Chinese. I don't care how good or bad their trucks are but if you want to support this communist crap, keep buying Chevys but you have no right to whine and bitch about Chinese junk running American businesses out. I will continue to buy vehicles from companies that are solvent without flooding them with my tax dollars. I just bought a new Ford the week before Christmas. I still own a Chevy and it is a good truck. I won't replace it with another though.
The back two pages of the Ford Owners Manual contains the Bus schedule.
Posted By: tzone Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
Originally Posted by 7 STW
Plus women at least the hot ones like chevys more.


Yeah, but they wear Polaris jackets. grin
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/25/14
Quote
Chevy (GM) has sold out to the Chinese�


Yup. Ho Lee Pfuk signs my paycheck.
Originally Posted by srwshooter


There are mitigating factors not discussed in that report. You notice that it is derived from used car advertisements? Tacomas would be #1 if they were ever for sale. Those that were'nt totalled by F250s (#1), that is.
i drive a chevy and a polaris.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by srwshooter


There are mitigating factors not discussed in that report. You notice that it is derived from used car advertisements? Tacomas would be #1 if they were ever for sale. Those that were'nt totalled by F250s (#1), that is.


very strange reply.makes absolutely no sense.
Posted By: tzone Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/26/14
Originally Posted by srwshooter
i drive a chevy and a polaris.


You must really like to fix your stuff.
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by srwshooter
i drive a chevy and a polaris.


You must really like to fix your stuff.


i don't need to fix them,they don't brake.i've only owned 4 chevy trucks sense 1979 and i'm still driving 2 of those.i can understand the polaris haters on older models,but the new polaris is a great atv.honda is the only one i wouldn't own. we had 7 guys riding trails that had hondas .they ALL were sold due to breakdowns.6 of those bought polaris atvs and they love them.
Posted By: RyanTX Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/26/14
Originally Posted by srwshooter

i don't need to fix them,they don't brake.


You're right there, they don't brake for [bleep]. Just keep on driving your Isuzu designed Chevy while whining about people buying "foreign".
Originally Posted by srwshooter

i don't need to fix them,they don't brake.i've only owned 4 chevy trucks sense 1979 and i'm still driving 2 of those.i can understand the polaris haters on older models,but the new polaris is a great atv.honda is the only one i wouldn't own. we had 7 guys riding trails that had hondas .they ALL were sold due to breakdowns.6 of those bought polaris atvs and they love them.


You do realize that some kid might read that and think you're serious, don't you?
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Posted By: 458 Lott Re: For the Chevy Haters Club - 02/26/14
I've never understood the hatred for inanimate objects.
No hatred for inanimate objects...contempt for people that try to sell crap and bash all others.
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