In the midst of a never-ending war with Western Hackberry here, around the foundation and along the fencelines. Seems like the bird poop seed dispersal system works as advertised.

These things grow a root that goes on forever which is why they survive droughts so well, and why they keep coming back no matter how many times you cut 'em to the ground.

Time to get all chemical on their collective masses. When I cut 'em off at ground level, what can I apply to the stump to take 'em out permanent? Harsh chemicals OK long as I can get 'em over the counter, wife justs wants them dead.

Thanks,

Mike

I'd suggest using 2-4-D following label suggestions. Too much chemical will top kill and the active ingredient will not move to the roots. Spray on the foliage and do not cut down until top kill has occurred. Associated grasses will be unaffected.

Some species can be resistant and one may have to hit them a couple years in a row.

Roundup will kill everything, and one leaves a void that's quickly invaded by some other weed.

Mike,
I buy generic Roundup and a herbicide called 'Rely' Remedy, that's it!, or something like that at my co-op and mix equal parts with a lot of water. It's a 'hot' (in the words of the sales guy) mixture that kills anything green. I had some suckers at one of my peach trees and sprayed the suckers---killed them and has just about killed the tree. No loss since brown rot has invaded. I'll get the name for sure and let you know.

Tordon on fresh cut stumps
Thanks

Yep, Tordon on fresh cut stumps. Remedy (1 quart to 3 quarts diesel) sprayed in a 1 foot band up the trunk, will kill them when they're still standing, and may be a better option if you want the tree to "circulate" some stuff around before cutting it down. Both can be found at the local Tractor Supply.

Permintol

Have you tried going below ground level a bit and filling the hole with salt?

Another idea would be to ring the tree although it would not be an instant out of the way kind of thing.

Spike!

http://www.dowagro.com/range/products/spike20P.htm

Crossbow works on any brush around here, plus it won't kill the grass. Available at the farm stores.

We use a chemical called Remedy to kill all woody plants including small oak trees. It costs about $100 a gallon, but goes a long way.
Might be what Mickey is talking about. Not sure if you can buy it without a license where you live tho.

Tordon is what you want, but some states like Colorado won't sell it to private individuals. A licensed commercial spray Co can only buy it. Pretty pricey. I just had some brought back from MO though.

Remedy -1 part
Diesel --3 parts
Kills standing brush and trees in fence rows --
Hudson sprayer on trunk
Gotta do it tomorrow --
Good luck to you

Tordon is about $20 a quart and Remedy is $89 a gallon at Tractor Supply. Neither needs a license in Texas. Tordon comes in a squirt bottle you apply directly to the stump. Mix the Remedy as I advised.

Tordon is absolutely restricted use in Texas! This is what I do for a living, so my recommendation would be a 25% solution of triclopyr (Remedy or Garlon) in diesel sprayed on the tree base up to about 18 inches or on the stump if you plan on cutting it first. I am currently developing a new herbicide specifically for this purpose, but we won't have a Section 3 label until sometime this Fall, hopefully.

Dang Birdy, drought has just about did in all our hackberries!

Not Tordon RTU. You can buy it for $20 per bottle at Tractor Supply.

Garlon is what they are using on cut tamarisk stumps around here. I don't know anything else about it.

Sycamore

Remedy and Cidekick. Foliar and on scarred trunks.

Alan

How is it on mesquite? All we ever had was 2-4-D.

Tasahillo (turkey pear)???

I use this

http://www.genericherbicides.com/triclopyr4ec.aspx

2 gallons shipped to me is $142.27

mix 3 parts diesel to 1 part herbicide and spray the cut stump and the bark to the ground, leave a 3-4 inch stump, wet it well but no runoff


works just like Garlon and Remedy

^^^This will work...

Remedy kills mesquite really well. Works great on salt cedar, too.

Triclopyr and diesel work well on mesquite, but not so much on pear species. Surmount or Tordon 22k are probably better. The new herbicide I am working on is dynamite on mesquite and even better on huisache, but it has prickly pear and tasajillo activity at low use rates as well.

Thanks to you both!

And Huisache.

Alan

Cut the tree down, drill holes in the stump and fill the holes with brush killer a few times.

Another vote for Remedy. Legal over the counter in Texas and it works.

Just mix as most have recommended with diesel and apply.

It will take a year or two on bigger stumps but, they will actually rot away.

cut the tree down drill hole put a tablespoon of diesel in it nothing else needed

Whatever you decide to use, apply it to the fresh cut stump soon. Within five minutes is a good idea before the plant attempts to plug off the xylem and phloem.

BRISTECD, developing your own new chemistry? Damn boy, I am impressed. A mountain of paperwork, trials, and residue crap. I used to be in that a long while back when Sulfonyl Ureas first came out.

try some Arsenal, what power co use for right aways I believe.

Hello Mike, you may find Velpar useful...it can also be purchased as "grid-balls" which are tossed out of helicopters for killing boxthorn and such.
Do not use around trees unless you want them dead.

I use about a quart. I also mix a half cup of molasses mixed in a couple gallons of water to clean up the diesel from my soil.

BP...

Yep! That was the name. Thanks.

Chopper.....its a nasty herbicide, but can be expensive. They use it a lot down here for site prep on tree plantings. Best stuff you can buy.

We used to use a glyphoste mixed 50/50 with water on stumps.
10 percent mix for foliar.

we used to mix Tordon and Garlon. There was some stuff called Arsenal we liked too.

There was a Pathway for stumps that was very effective.

I would contact a local chemical dealer and ask their opinion.
all the advice given here to use "parts" diesel fuel are WAY BAD.
IF you choose to use diesel as a surfactant never go more than 20%.

read here on what they recommend in TX and what to avoid doing, some of it you are getting here for advice. not once has someone said "read the label" it's all homebrews that are likely illegal to do, and for good reason.

http://www.texasfarmbureau.org/TexasAgriculture/2002/041902/041902herbicides.htm

IF you do decide to wing it and just buy something here and spray, I would start small and work your way up. like using roundup (glyphosate) and a little surfactant. you can always hit it again later. however if you contaminate your soil, there is no remedy for it then. I would be happy to discuss further via pm if you like, I too am a certified commercial pesticide applicator.

Would this mixture work on bambo and english ivy?

Jim

check the label, it may.

have you tried 2,4-D? we don't have those here so I don't know what would work on it right off hand

LOL, oh yes, I had an extra $200 million lying around and needed something to spend it on. Actually, I am in R&D for a large chemical manufacturer. I just have some responsibilities for South TX brush species. If you worked on the SUs, then there is a good chance we may know one another.