IS THERE ANYTHING THE GOV. DOES NOT CONTROL

GOT TO THINKING THE OTHER DAY ABOUT STUFF THAT IS CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT. I CAME TO REALIZE THAT I COULD NOT THINK OF ANYTHING THAT IT DOES NOT CONTROL. THE WATER, AIR, FOOD, THE HOUSE WE LIVE IN, THE CAR WE DRIVE, THE ROAD WE DRIVE, WHEN WE DRIVE, WHERE THE ROAD GOES, THE CLOTHES WE WEAR, THE TIME WE GO THE WORK, HOW LONG WE WORK, WHAT JOBS WE CAN DO, HOW MUCH WE GET PAID. SOME MAY SAY THAT THESE CONTROLS MAKE THING SAFER, AND I AGREE THEY DO, BUT CONTROL IS STILL CONTROL AND THE OPPOSITE OF CONTROL IS FREEDOM. I STILL CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING THE GOVERMENT DOES NOT CONTROL.

Well, they obviously control your cap locks button.

Ironic that you lament this from western New York.

Originally Posted by JERSEYJOHN

GOT TO THINKING THE OTHER DAY ABOUT STUFF THAT IS CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT. I CAME TO REALIZE THAT I COULD NOT THINK OF ANYTHING THAT IT DOES NOT CONTROL. THE WATER, AIR, FOOD, THE HOUSE WE LIVE IN, THE CAR WE DRIVE, THE ROAD WE DRIVE, WHEN WE DRIVE, WHERE THE ROAD GOES, THE CLOTHES WE WEAR, THE TIME WE GO THE WORK, HOW LONG WE WORK, WHAT JOBS WE CAN DO, HOW MUCH WE GET PAID. SOME MAY SAY THAT THESE CONTROLS MAKE THING SAFER, AND I AGREE THEY DO, BUT CONTROL IS STILL CONTROL AND THE OPPOSITE OF CONTROL IS FREEDOM. I STILL CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING THE GOVERMENT DOES NOT CONTROL.

They obviously don't control the CAPS LOCK key.

Originally Posted by 4ager

Well, they obviously control your cap locks button.

OR NOT.

Originally Posted by Steelhead

They obviously don't control the CAPS LOCK key.

They don't control who crosses our borders.

To answer the OP... Ebola

All this screaming makes my head hurt.
I guess it's 5o'clock somewheres
or close enough.

Originally Posted by RWE

Originally Posted by 4ager

Well, they obviously control your cap locks button.

OR NOT.

Originally Posted by Steelhead

They obviously don't control the CAPS LOCK key.

Please help, I'm confused......

Hmmmm......

jersey john is in NY.

Should have worn ear protection before reading the op's post.

Well, I've got this lil' spring that I contained and piped......
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..that .gov didn't know about until I posted this.

I don't think think they control a damn thing. They interfere with just about everything though.

Originally Posted by JERSEYJOHN

I STILL CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING THE GOVERMENT DOES NOT CONTROL.

Have a look at their spending habits.

Originally Posted by JERSEYJOHN

GOT TO THINKING THE OTHER DAY ABOUT STUFF THAT IS CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT. I CAME TO REALIZE THAT I COULD NOT THINK OF ANYTHING THAT IT DOES NOT CONTROL. THE WATER, AIR, FOOD, THE HOUSE WE LIVE IN, THE CAR WE DRIVE, THE ROAD WE DRIVE, WHEN WE DRIVE, WHERE THE ROAD GOES, THE CLOTHES WE WEAR, THE TIME WE GO THE WORK, HOW LONG WE WORK, WHAT JOBS WE CAN DO, HOW MUCH WE GET PAID. SOME MAY SAY THAT THESE CONTROLS MAKE THING SAFER, AND I AGREE THEY DO, BUT CONTROL IS STILL CONTROL AND THE OPPOSITE OF CONTROL IS FREEDOM. I STILL CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING THE GOVERMENT DOES NOT CONTROL.

There's good control and bad control.
The water - I'll take controlled water over non-controlled water; ESPECIALLY in a city
The Air - Remember when LA had acid rain and smog alerts...I'm cool with not going back to that.
Food - I'll take food that's safe to eat over the roll your dice method
The house we live in - Building codes save a chit load of lives.
The car we drive - Less emissions, better mileage, safer by a HUGE margin; I'm good with that.
The road we drive - You know how abusive dirt roads are to your vehicles; I'll take government roads. That's one of the few things they do pretty well.
When we drive??? I don't get that one, I drive whenever the hell I want
Where the road goes - Well I much prefer roads that go to places that I want to go over the "roads to nowhere". Government legitimately provides both, so you get at best a half point there.
The clothes we wear - They do ensure that textiles are free of pathogens, I'm good with that. And they also require that your clothes not be fire magnets...I kinda like not bursting into flames (but I still get flamed a lot here)
The time we go to work - Not unless you work for the government slick. I work for a private company, and my boss controls when I come and go from work.
How long we work - Wrong again, I used to work 96 hours a week, and the government didn't stop that. I worked 4 24 hour shifts per week on the Ambulance, and then a 12 shift at the hospital on Saturday.
What jobs we can do - Well, OSHA is a real pain in the arse, but their regs have saved a lot of lives. I don't think anyone is looking to go back to the days of no PPE for employees.
How much we get paid - It wasn't some big "government ogre" that determined minimum wage, the 40 hour work weeks, or when overtime pay starts. It was demanded by the people. Think I'm wrong? Just try taking that away. And to be honest, that's standard in all first world nations. One freedom we do have, you can move to a 3rd world nation if you want to work longer hours with less pay.

Most here are rather anti-government, and I really share that sentiment. But many here are what I'd call extremists. They think if a little of something is good, then a lot must always be better. Like their "conservatism". If a little conservatism is good, then complete must be nirvana. Sorry, just doesn't work that way. They'd completely abolish government. I say government exists because anarchy is a failure.

There are things that I like government to do, and things I don't like. I don't like our tax system, love to chit can the whole thing and go to a consumption tax. I don't like our loss of our right to privacy, I'd live to have that back and every POS involved with taking it away prosecuted. I don't like how we treat corporations, but I also don't like how corporations have very un-balanced control of the political process. I don't like the crap our law makers get away with. I could go on. My point is, all government isn't bad, but it is evil; so never take your eye off of it.

Originally Posted by GunGeek

Originally Posted by JERSEYJOHN

GOT TO THINKING THE OTHER DAY ABOUT STUFF THAT IS CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT. I CAME TO REALIZE THAT I COULD NOT THINK OF ANYTHING THAT IT DOES NOT CONTROL. THE WATER, AIR, FOOD, THE HOUSE WE LIVE IN, THE CAR WE DRIVE, THE ROAD WE DRIVE, WHEN WE DRIVE, WHERE THE ROAD GOES, THE CLOTHES WE WEAR, THE TIME WE GO THE WORK, HOW LONG WE WORK, WHAT JOBS WE CAN DO, HOW MUCH WE GET PAID. SOME MAY SAY THAT THESE CONTROLS MAKE THING SAFER, AND I AGREE THEY DO, BUT CONTROL IS STILL CONTROL AND THE OPPOSITE OF CONTROL IS FREEDOM. I STILL CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING THE GOVERMENT DOES NOT CONTROL.

There's good control and bad control. AGREED BUT CONTROL IT IS, I RATHER DECIDE FOR MYSELF WHAT IS SAFE AND WHAT IS NOT.
The water - I'll take controlled water over non-controlled water; ESPECIALLY in a city
The Air - Remember when LA had acid rain and smog alerts...I'm cool with not going back to that.
Food - I'll take food that's safe to eat over the roll your dice method
The house we live in - Building codes save a chit load of lives.
The car we drive - Less emissions, better mileage, safer by a HUGE margin; I'm good with that.
The road we drive - You know how abusive dirt roads are to your vehicles; I'll take government roads. That's one of the few things they do pretty well.
When we drive??? I don't get that one, I drive whenever the hell I want IF YOU WORK THEN THE GOVT CONTROLS WHEN YOU DRIVE BY CONTROLLING THE WORK DAY LENGTH, START AND STOP TIMES.
Where the road goes - Well I much prefer roads that go to places that I want to go over the "roads to nowhere". Government legitimately provides both, so you get at best a half point there.
The clothes we wear - They do ensure that textiles are free of pathogens, I'm good with that. And they also require that your clothes not be fire magnets...I kinda like not bursting into flames (but I still get flamed a lot here)
The time we go to work - Not unless you work for the government slick. I work for a private company, and my boss controls when I come and go from work.IN LARGER AREAS THE GOVT. HAS COMPANIES STAGGER THIER START TIMES TO REDUCE TRAFFIC CONJESTION
How long we work - Wrong again, I used to work 96 hours a week, and the government didn't stop that. I worked 4 24 hour shifts per week on the Ambulance, and then a 12 shift at the hospital on Saturday. CAN YOU WORK 24 HRS A DAY EVERY DAY, INCLUDING WEEK ENDS?
What jobs we can do - Well, OSHA is a real pain in the arse, but their regs have saved a lot of lives. I don't think anyone is looking to go back to the days of no PPE for employees.
How much we get paid - It wasn't some big "government ogre" that determined minimum wage, the 40 hour work weeks, or when overtime pay starts. It was demanded by the people. Think I'm wrong? Just try taking that away. And to be honest, that's standard in all first world nations. One freedom we do have, you can move to a 3rd world nation if you want to work longer hours with less pay. TRUE BUT THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE CONTROLLED BY THE US GOVT.

Most here are rather anti-government, and I really share that sentiment. But many here are what I'd call extremists. They think if a little of something is good, then a lot must always be better. Like their "conservatism". If a little conservatism is good, then complete must be nirvana. Sorry, just doesn't work that way. They'd completely abolish government. I say government exists because anarchy is a failure.

There are things that I like government to do, and things I don't like. I don't like our tax system, love to chit can the whole thing and go to a consumption tax. I don't like our loss of our right to privacy, I'd live to have that back and every POS involved with taking it away prosecuted. I don't like how we treat corporations, but I also don't like how corporations have very un-balanced control of the political process. I don't like the crap our law makers get away with. I could go on. My point is, all government isn't bad, but it is evil; so never take your eye off of it.

I AGREE, MOST OF THE GOVT. CONTROL IS FOR THE BETTER/SAFER, JUST SAYING THAT IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER THEY CONTROL US, NOT US CONTROL THEM.

Originally Posted by GunGeek

[ I say government exists because anarchy is a failure.

And too much govt, too overbearing a gov't, too interfering a govt leads to anarchy... It's a vicious circle - and IMHO that circle is beginning to come around again..

From T. Jefferson, "the tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of tyrants and patriots; it's its natural manure.."

Originally Posted by Redneck

Originally Posted by GunGeek

[ I say government exists because anarchy is a failure.

And too much govt, too overbearing a gov't, too interfering a govt leads to anarchy... It's a vicious circle - and IMHO that circle is beginning to come around again..

From T. Jefferson, "the tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of tyrants and patriots; it's its natural manure.."

You're absolutely right. Absolute anything, whether it be capitalism, socialism, whatever; just doesn't work. A nation is just too complex to just design one little set of rules and expect it to fit everything.

That's why you have the two sides, but the idea was they were supposed to come to reasonable compromises; they just don't do that anymore. So they wait until they have majorities or super-majorities and then just ram it down our throat...Obamacare being the poster child for that.

The problem lies with the people and their ignorance of government, and economics. They listen to some right or left wing talking heads and think they know the subject, when they know just enough to be dangerous. Then they go out and vote.

They control exactly what its citizens want them to control.

That's why we're fugged.

Travis

If the Government did not control the people -
The people who do not want the Government to control the people
would then control the people.

And things would be worse.

So its all about control?

Some people do this due to eyesight issues.

At this time,they do not control a women's menstrual cycle

they know better...

Mr cap locks must be a liberal. Now that he got what he wanted he is not happy and is screaming about no freedom. You can not have control and freedom too. The country is finding this out a little too late.

Reminds me of this classic.

What belongs to Caesar? In a nutshell, nothing.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/03/...-amostmisunderstood-newtestamentpassage/

Is there ....the govt does not control?

Blacks?

Virtually every Government agency's purpose is too make sure some private sector business is acting responsibly, ethically, morally and legally. If the private sector were always doing the right thing, we could do away with most of the Government employees.

Everyone wants less government as long as it doesn't affect them. But when the grocery store is selling dangerous food and charging you for 1 lb and selling you 12 oz, people want the govt. to step in and control things.

Just one of thousands of possible examples.

Originally Posted by eyeball

Is there ....the govt does not control?

Blacks?

Spending.

Itself and the CIA

Originally Posted by JMR40

But when the grocery store is selling dangerous food and charging you for 1 lb and selling you 12 oz, people want the govt. to step in and control things.

Just one of thousands of possible examples.

In that 'example', and the store was tryin' to charge me for a pound but giving me 12 oz., I'd be handing it back to the store and either getting a price correction or shopping at a different store..

It's called 'being personally responsible'. If a shopper is too stupid to figure out that the price or amount offered was wrong - then maybe they should find someone to do their shopping for 'em..

Just a thought..

Originally Posted by mtnsnake

Mr cap locks must be a liberal. Now that he got what he wanted he is not happy and is screaming about no freedom. You can not have control and freedom too. The country is finding this out a little too late.

NO NOT LIBERAL, JUST TIRED OF THE GOV MAKING LAWS THAT CONTROL US, AND SOME OF THEM ARE JUST FOR CONTROL AND NOTHING ELSE. WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN CONTROL.

Tyrant Obama the Liar's EPA is forcing us to drive cars that get 56 mph despite the fact that we have more oil than the rest of the world combined. That will mean that the only cars available will be plastic an the size of clown cars. No trucks or 4 wheel drives will be allowed. This is all because the environmentally ill want to enforce their religion on the rest of us.

Next will be to move those living in the suburbs and country into the cities. They will live in shipping containers stacked 10 high. These will be located near transit centers because there will be no parking available and we will ride the bus.

I don't want gov to manage and control my life like a rancher manages his sheep.

Originally Posted by JMR40

Virtually every Government agency's purpose is too make sure some private sector business is acting responsibly, ethically, morally and legally. If the private sector were always doing the right thing, we could do away with most of the Government employees.

Everyone wants less government as long as it doesn't affect them. But when the grocery store is selling dangerous food and charging you for 1 lb and selling you 12 oz, people want the govt. to step in and control things.

Just one of thousands of possible examples.

YGBKM. Name one case where money can't buy .gov off.

The Army won't reveal the results of Berghdal until the election is over. The US atty gen will not prosecute anything - Black on white hate crimes, gun running, illegal aliens, IRS tyranny, EPA tyranny, FBI tyranny, election fraud, voter intimidation, etc.

Originally Posted by eyeball

YGBKM. Name one case where money can't buy .gov off.

The Army won't reveal the results of Berghdal until the election is over. The US atty gen will not prosecute anything - Black on white hate crimes, gun running, illegal aliens, IRS tyranny, EPA tyranny, FBI tyranny, election fraud, voter intimidation, etc.

Yeah in a lot of cases money can buy someone off. But that's an extremely small % of business that can do that. Not every business has the political connections, ballz, and money to buy off government regulators. So for the vast majority of businesses regulation works.

We as a society need to hold government to a better standard than we have. The Mineral's Management Agency who rubber stamped Gulf Drilling, the FDIC who rubber stamped anything and everything Wall Street wanted to do; the list goes on. When an agency fails due to either outright corrupton, conflict of interest, or just being too cozy with their industries, we need to put people in jail.

Jail is a magical thing, it's the one thing that gets people's attention. The financial collapse will happen again because instead of putting someone's arse in jail, Obama went for fines. Well hell, if I'm the CEO of Goldman Sach's, I still get my paycheck if a fine is paid, so how is that a deterrent?

Obama got away with that and NO ONE called him on it. I would have given up every last fine to put one really big, high profile CEO in jail. Blankfien, Lewis, Pandit, Dimon and their lot. Just one of them would have done more toward reeling them in than all the fines combined.