Doesn't look like a fun place to be.

Interesting to see how they were left...

http://forum.goregrish.com/threads/wwii-relics-remains.21678/

How is that first Luger in that good of shape?!

Also, why does that first ammo belt look like it contains blanks?

interesting archeology

Wow, some incredible finds. That is strange looking ammo - long, straight walled, rimmed with a tracer type projectile. Wonder if they will do any DNA tracing attempts.

Thinking that may be 7.62x38 Nagant. Rims look big though??

Their "anti-tank gun" looks a lot like the receiver/magwell from a Mosin Nagant as well.

That is one weird, strange-ass web site. Pretty [bleep] creepy rockinbbar.

Very cool website.

I found it when that thread was linked elsewhere as well.

Looked around some, but didn't get too far. Don't think I want to either. Seen enough beheadings for awhile. It's good that folks can see reality though. It seldom fits into their perception of what the world really is.

Archaeologist son was telling me all about these types in Europe. Dunno how much of the posters "Facts" are true, but this stuff is big business in Russia. It receives their mark of legitimacy by stating they are trying to repatriate remains and give closure to families by recovering dog tags, ID's etc. However the dark side to this is all the recovered relics go straight to places like eBay.

They are not real archaeologist, but just guys out relic hunting. The German govt does employ real archaeologist but these aren't the guys!!! This is not the way you go thru such an area. If you want to see real archaeologist excavating, look up the WWI German remains they found in the collapsed dugout in eastern France several years ago. Awesome find. I think someone posted a link here. Believe the site was in either the Vosges area or Alsace.

Yeah, it looks like these guys are out for profit, but when they found the remains, it changed the game for them a bit.

Did some archaeology work in my younger years to learn more about excavating Indian sites.

The original link to the WW ll pictures was interesting. I should have just quit there.....

Looked around at the website for a VERY short while. What a gruesome and sick bunch!

From a short lookover, it seems to be a group of folks who like to look at death, dead people, terminal accidents and crap like that.

Extra Icky

The rest of the stuff on that site is pretty weird.

It takes a certain POS, like Gayem.

has to do with the amount of oxygen where it was sitting.....if it was in a chunk of ground with low O2, even in water it wont rust as you also need oxygen for rust to form which is why there are some wonderfully preserved wrecks in deep freshwater lakes in low oxygen zones



prolly this beast:



unfortunately i cant find a pic without a stock to compare and most my reference books are still boxed up at my brothers

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Polish_anti-tank_rifle_mod._35_Ur_(Maroszek).jpg

What's your problem little dicky autistic? I thought the finds of those artifacts very interesting.

As far as dead bodies, I see em almost every day I did scroll through sone of the other threads and found some of the information interesting. Specifically the autopsy findings of the Miami cannibal were a good read

Just as you probably find kiddy porn "entertaining"

i am one of those artifact people, but in the southwest it is stuff from former military outposts, calvary etc. But being a military history collector, i have been on many of these websites.
finding intact stuka's in the forest in russia, tanks driven into the elbe river, some of this stuff is either still workable or is restorable.
As to the bodies, generally the people really interested in this stuff treat them respectfully. And they are repatriated to military cemetaries. They found an american a few years ago propped up against a tree in the ardennes. Identifying him for the family moved him from mia to kia.
There was a warehouse in poland i believe with stacked bones from the germans after the war, nobody knew what to do with them. Possibly they were later repatriated.
it gets bad at times, i remember a few years ago stacks of eyeglasses from japanese on okinawa found in the caves being sold.

Finding bodies while out looking for artifacts is one thing. Seeing death as a part of one's job is also an unfortunate by product of certain very honorable proffessions. My brother in law is a Sergeant with the local PD and he shares some stories about such with me. Two of my best freinds are fire Dept first responders and my wife has worked in a couple of Nursing homes, the same kind of deal. HOWEVER, a site that seemingly celebrates photos and stories of death including suicides and gore and which has lengthy chats about death and gore and seemingly celebrating such is waaaaaaay wierd.

Must have been a fight!
11 of 12 rounds were discharged.

ROCKINBBAR,

Thank you for the original post and link. Way fascinating. My looking into the rest of the wierd site was my own fault and no reflection on your well intentioned initial post of just sharing the pictures from an amazing dig and find.

normally i have never done anything with military gear other than preserve what is there. I varied once. When the russian capture k98's were coming into country, i got one originally made in the 30's. It had been "dipped" with that horrible russian park on the metal, some russian numbers cut into a sanded area on thea buttstock, and whatever crud they used to seal the wood. By rights it should have been left as it was, as it reflected it's history. The part that got me was the "blood rust" on top of the reciever, very distinctive when you see it, where some poor guy had leaked all over it. I refinished the wood taking the russian stuff out and putting what the germans had originally used back on, and got rid of the russian "dip" park, and got rid of the pits/corrosion from the blood. When restored, it looked pretty much "as issued." Shot it one time, and put it away. I like to think the guy who had that rifle a long time ago approved of what i had done.

few years ago, i was very tempted to bid on a garand found in the forest around bastogne. Wasn't much left of the wood, and or course heavily rusted. It seemed offensive in a way to see it for sale on an auction site, and i kept thinking it needed to come home.

there are a number of sites like this one. Few years ago i was really tempted to buy a pack of WWII german condoms. Thought it would make an interesting gift for a son in law whose father was on the eastern front during WWII.
http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/Merc...GY&Store_Code=BM&Category_Code=2

Don't think it is the Mauser 1918 because those are basically a scaled up 98(which the actions doesn't look right for) and most wouldn't have had the mag well. The WZ35 action appears closer to that in the pic, but the trigger group doesn't quite match and there are too many barrel bands for either anti-tank gun along with no bipod.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin%E2%80%93Nagant

That's pretty cool.

That is a cool and amazing site! Who knew so much Nazi era stuff was still around to be collected and all.

Each item makes me try to imagine the life and times of the person who owned it and possibly died with this stuff in hand or in use.

Each of them was once young, strong and virile. Makes a person ponder thier own mortality and the brevity of life on this planet. Also, how precious this life given to us IS.

They look like primers for artillery using bagged powder charges.

great pictures

some bad [bleep] happened there - that's for sure

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