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As of Friday, residents of Durham, N.C., near the Duke University Chapel bell tower will now hear the tones of a male Muslim Students Association member chanting the Muslim �adhan� or "call to prayer" at 1 p.m. each week.

�On campus among students and faculty the response has been overwhelmingly positive,� says Duke spokesman Keith Lawrence in a phone interview.

The chant, which announces the start of the group�s jummah prayer service, which takes place in the chapel basement each Friday at 1 p.m., lasts about three minutes and will be moderately amplified, according to a Duke University press release.

Imam Adeel Zeb, Muslim chaplain at Duke says in a phone interview that the addition of the chant was in the works months prior to the militant Islamist attacks on the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo and are in no way in response or politically motivated.

Muslim students at Duke are supported by the university through the Office of Student Affairs� Muslim Life department, which hosts religious services, community service projects, and interfaith events. The Center for Muslim Life provides on-campus social and spiritual meeting spaces for students as well as opportunities for counseling and advising.

�This is not about politics,� Mr. Zeb says. �This is part of Duke�s mission to promote religious diversity on campus.�

Zeb adds that he �did not hesitate for a moment� or waver at all in the plan following the Paris attacks or after learning about negative feedback on Twitter.

�As always, I advise my students to respond to negativity by being very positive and loving in their character,� Zeb says. �It is a tradition and an honor to carry on the chant and call to prayer.�

"Duke is in the minority for having he call to prayer," Zeb says. "I don't know of many others doing it."

He adds that the service is open to the public,

The words will be chanted in Arabic, then spoken in English by either male or female students over the public address system, according to Zeb who offers the following English translation of the Adhan:

God is Most Great. God is Most Great.

God is Most Great. God is Most Great.

I bear witness that there is none worthy of being worshipped except God.

I bear witness that there is none worthy of being worshipped except God.

I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of God.

I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of God.

Come to prayer. Come to prayer.

Come to Success. Come to Success.

God is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.

There is none worthy of being worshipped except God.

Zeb says that he has spent the past week training seven male students in the proper intonation, rhythm, and pronunciation of the chant. The adhan is traditionally performed by males unless it is a call to an all-female gathering, in which case, Zeb says, a woman would call the adhan.

"The adhan is the call to prayer that brings Muslims back to their purpose in life, which is to worship God and serves as a reminder to serve our brothers and sisters in humanity," Zeb explains. �The collective Muslim community is truly grateful and excited about Duke�s intentionality toward religious and cultural diversity.�

�This opportunity represents a larger commitment to religious pluralism that is at the heart of Duke�s mission,� Christy Lohr Sapp, the chapel�s associate dean for religious life and a Christian, is quoted in a press release. �It connects the university to national trends in religious accommodation.�

same bunch of azzwipes that tried to crucify the Lacrosse team.

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�This opportunity represents a larger commitment to religious pluralism that is at the heart of Duke�s mission,� Christy Lohr Sapp, the chapel�s associate dean for religious life and a Christian, is quoted in a press release. �It connects the university to national trends in religious accommodation.�


I would be willing to bet that there are multiple restrictions on Christian worship on the Duke campus. Perfidy, at it's most blatant.
This is the kind of crap which does not need to be in college.
But they would likely not broadcast a Christmas carol.

Really, there should be an app for that.

Maybe a well healed Arab offered to build a new stadium.
Originally Posted by 1minute
But they would likely not broadcast a Christmas carol.


Can you imagine the outcry created by someone praying the Lord's Prayer through the speaker system at 3:00pm...
Well, that one is off my daughter's college list. Permanently.
Originally Posted by 4ager
Well, that one is off my daughter's college list. Permanently.


ditto.

The Lord's Prayer would probably be ok at Duke its run by the Methodest Church.

http://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/uarchives/history/articles/narrative-history
Duke is a Methodist University -- what they hell are they thinking?
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
Duke is a Methodist University -- what they hell are they thinking?


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The college I went to, Embry-Riddle Aero Univ, had a lot of students from the middle east. They all got together and petitioned the school to set up a place for them to put their little rugs on the floor and face east. The school told them there was a interfaith chapel on the campus that they could use and there would be no further discussion.

That was a long time ago and I hope that they stuck to their guns after all these years.
The Muslim population of students at Duke is crazy stupid large.

They bring oil money.
I'm guessing many of their wealthiest benefactors will not like this. Franklin Graham has already called for donors to withhold gifts to the University until they reverse this policy.
You have this all wrong. It's kind of like playing a squealin' rabbit call to the coyotes. That's how ya bring em' in ... now all they need are some sheep decoys.
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
I'm guessing many of their wealthiest benefactors will not like this. Franklin Graham has already called for donors to withhold gifts to the University until they reverse this policy.


I doubt it. The United Methodist Church organization was long ago infiltrated by and taken over by Marxist Socialist inspired radical preachers. Any money deficit will be easily replaced by mid-Eastern oil money.

The United Methodist Church also was the original co-founder of Handgun Control and helped found the National Coalition to Ban Handguns. They also push their policy of being against self defense so no one should be allowed to own firearms and their preachers preach that nonsense constantly.

Although I was raised in the Methodist Church back before they were infiltrated, I would not set foot in a Methodist Church today. I can get all the communist brainwashing I want just listening to the main stream media news reports.

L.W.
So, they will now let the Christian students issue their own slightly amplified call to prayer???
Damn NE Yankees. So long as it doesnt spread...
The Duke student body is rather notorious and infamous in regards their pranking and taunting. I expect there will be a response.

In the meanwhile, we'll see how the school donors respond.

Our nation's nativity scenes and school prayers are yanked but this HS is permitted. What a deplorable crock!!
Originally Posted by 4ager
Well, that one is off my daughter's college list. Permanently.


This is one of the main reasons our daughter goes to a private Christian school. We know and believe that she can get into just as much trouble there as in a state school, but we don't worry about the school teaching things we are uncomfortable with. Many of the kids she is friends with have no strong affiliation with the particular denomination. Their parents just want them in a good school. The schools enrollment goes up each year and they still have to turn away many kids.
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The Duke student body is rather notorious and infamous in regards their pranking and taunting. I expect there will be a response.


And I suspect the swift response to any pranking and taunting will soon make the true nature of Islam apparent.

I do think that Duke has stepped on its schlong on this one.

Birdwatcher
Duke University's (originally Trinity College - a Christian school) biggest donor is dead - they are primarily funded by the assets of the original American Tobacco Co - kind of ironic in itself. Many folks around here (not the Duke fans) consider them the University of New Jersey, South Campus.
You raise a good point with your lead sentence. We'll see.

I expect the final outcome of this Friday Duke special attention to Muslim prayer headline will ultimately result in no special recognition of the Friday Muslim prayer.
It's Durham folks.

If someone can somehow convince the locals the Muslims don't like BBQ Chicken, the problem takes care of itself.
Disgraceful.
This will spread...

case in point, the local state university here in the Rogue Valley, Southern Oregon University....

of their annual budget to recruit new prospective students...
60-% of that money is spent in Saudi Arabia...they want that big buck out of state tuition money...

real bad evidently...

it was several years ago, that someone posted St Cloud State University in Minnesota, was putting in foot baths to satisfy the Muslim students on campus...

yet, they frown on Christmas Music or anything to do with Christianity...

screw Academia...
Duke lost me as a supporter when the gang of 88 professors and other faculty decided to take a full page add in the local rag to crucify the lacrosse team.

With their current endowment fund topping 7 billion they are financially stable and probably can weather any short comings from local supporters.

And as previously posted the Methodist church which founded Duke U has been subverted by gays and ultra libs to the point that they no longer recognize Mother's Day or veterans Day in their sermons. Pissed my sandal wearing pastor off when I stood and thanked all vets past and present on Veteran's Day.

I can see that liberal cesspool becoming a recruiting ground for terrorism. Durham is already a sanctuary city with a corrupt police force. I doubt this is the last we will hear of this.
Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
Duke is a Methodist University -- what they hell are they thinking?


Evidently you don't know much about the Methodist Church. They are the most liberal of all the Protestant sects, and are fine with issues such as abortion, ecumenical councils, watered down Christianity and liberation theology.
That a Methodist owned university is in bed with their muslim brothers is to be expected.
I am not surprised at all. Duke is a far left Liberal conclave of the first order. Most of the faculty members are crazy as schitthouse rats.
Been a lifelong Duke fan. I am done with them.
Durka, Durka, Durka ,..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdIi7Kd9Ico
[bleep] Duke! I'd like to see them try that at Notre Dame or St. John's!
As an alum I am embarrassed, but not surprised. Remember the Lacrosse case?

Didn't used to be this way at Duke or the majority of the nation's other universities. The Methodist Church wasn't always liberal either.

I still hope they kick Carolina's butt, though. :-)
As an alum I am embarrassed, but not surprised. Remember the Lacrosse case?

Didn't used to be this way at Duke or the majority of the nation's other universities. The Methodist Church wasn't always liberal either.

I still hope they kick Carolina's butt, though. :-)
Duke apparently does not have a basic course on preventing forum double posting. laugh


RWE <- NC State Dad.
I was trying to get my post count up to speed up getting out of the New Member class!

I also went NC State (undergrad); none of my sons went to State or Duke. I was agnostic when they played Sunday.
Originally Posted by crossfireoops


Heh...Dude looks a lot like Craig Boddington.
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This is one of the main reasons our daughter goes to a private Christian school.

Duke is a "private Christian school"

I thought y'all were all about "freedom of religion"

I guess it just means YOUR favorite religion

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Duke University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_University
Duke University is a private research university located in Durham, North Carolina, United States. Founded by Methodists and Quakers
Snyper,

Why don't you move somewhere where Islam is the predominant "religion"?
Originally Posted by BarryC
Snyper,

Why don't you move somewhere where Islam is the predominant "religion"?

Why would I do that?
Or are you just tryng to attack me because I stated the truth?
The sooner islam is classified as a cult the better off we will be. This is a religion which tells people what they can do and what they cannot do. It fit the definition of a cult better than a definition of religion. Time to band it.
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by BarryC
Snyper,

Why don't you move somewhere where Islam is the predominant "religion"?

Why would I do that?
Or are you just tryng to attack me because I stated the truth?

No, because you are a deluded idiot.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by BarryC
Snyper,

Why don't you move somewhere where Islam is the predominant "religion"?

Why would I do that?
Or are you just tryng to attack me because I stated the truth?

No, because you are a deluded idiot.


Says the guy who has nothing to offer but juvenile name calling

You're simply proving my point

You "talk" about "freedom" but you don't mean it unless it meets your approval

You're just a typical hypocrite, and I bet you'll prove it again soon with more silly ranting

Let this lady read to you some of the tenets of Islam, directly from the Koran.

What do you think would happen if your religion held these same tenets? What if you and your fellow believers were situated amongst muslims? How would that go? After all, if these teachings of Islam are good enough for sandies, they are good enough for everyone, right?

Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by BarryC
Snyper,

Why don't you move somewhere where Islam is the predominant "religion"?

Why would I do that?
Or are you just tryng to attack me because I stated the truth?

No, because you are a deluded idiot.


Says the guy who has nothing to offer but juvenile name calling

You're simply proving my point

You "talk" about "freedom" but you don't mean it unless it meets your approval

You're just a typical hypocrite, and I bet you'll prove it again soon with more silly ranting



Snyper,

You can talk all the bullshit about "equality" you want, but in the end, the truth is that if we allow Islam, sooner or later they will be killing us and/or extorting "taxes". Now if you believe that is OK, all I can do is give you a hearty "Hi Ho F@k U".

Maybe you can get behind "Child Rapist Appreciation Day" at Duke too.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
The sooner islam is classified as a cult the better off we will be. This is a religion which tells people what they can do and what they cannot do. It fit the definition of a cult better than a definition of religion. Time to band it.


Just like the other Abrahamic based religions.
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by BarryC
Snyper,

Why don't you move somewhere where Islam is the predominant "religion"?

Why would I do that?
Or are you just tryng to attack me because I stated the truth?


Snyper, when your head goes North and your ass goes South, only then will you understand the true meaning and danger of Islam...
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
The sooner islam is classified as a cult the better off we will be. This is a religion which tells people what they can do and what they cannot do. It fit the definition of a cult better than a definition of religion. Time to band it.


Just like the other Abrahamic based religions.


except only the muslims KILL people that don't toe the line. Big difference.
Duke backs down, cancels the plan for the muslim call to prayer

http://www.wncn.com/story/27857809/duke-university-to-hold-weekly-muslim-prayer-service
Duke will give in. They'll quietly appease the Heathen Horde by giving away prayer rugs or installing porcelain foot-washes...
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Snyper,

You can talk all the bullshit about "equality" you want, but in the end, the truth is that if we allow Islam, sooner or later they will be killing us and/or extorting "taxes". Now if you believe that is OK, all I can do is give you a hearty "Hi Ho Fk U".

Maybe you can get behind "Child Rapist Appreciation Day" at Duke too.


Like I said, (and you continue to prove) you only favor freedom of religion when it's YOUR religion

I don't see much difference between you and them
Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by BarryC
Snyper,

Why don't you move somewhere where Islam is the predominant "religion"?

Why would I do that?
Or are you just tryng to attack me because I stated the truth?


Snyper, when your head goes North and your ass goes South, only then will you understand the true meaning and danger of Islam...


More lame rhetorical rambling that changes nothing I stated
Duke backpedalled, and FAST!

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/15/us/duke-call-to-prayer/

Duke's e-mail and phone servers were overwhelmed, and their development/fundraising and admissions offices were in a tailspin trying to implement damage control.

Someone will lose their very cushy job at Duke over this one.
Originally Posted by Snyper
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Snyper,

You can talk all the bullshit about "equality" you want, but in the end, the truth is that if we allow Islam, sooner or later they will be killing us and/or extorting "taxes". Now if you believe that is OK, all I can do is give you a hearty "Hi Ho Fk U".

Maybe you can get behind "Child Rapist Appreciation Day" at Duke too.


Like I said, (and you continue to prove) you only favor freedom of religion when it's YOUR religion

I don't see much difference between you and them


There are a lot here like that.
Puck Islam and the Goat Puckers who tolerate it and promote it
Originally Posted by 4ager


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Plans changed because the Durham, North Carolina, school's effort to "unify was not having the intended effect," Michael Schoenfeld, vice president for public affairs and government relations, said in a statement.


No kidding.
There is still hope. Capitalism lives.

Money is still a bigger motivator than 'plurality'.
friggen yankees

oh wait.....
It's a fact that nearly 50% of the population is below average in intelligence and unable to comprehend differences on an intellectual level.
Originally Posted by BarryC
It's a fact that nearly 50% of the population is below average in intelligence and unable to comprehend differences on an intellectual level.

There's no need to make excuses if you don't understand why you're a hypocrite.

That's why you feel a need to lash out rather than have a rational, factual conversation.

I'll leave you to your rambling




That's quite a hoot coming from you.

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