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GOP makes a deal with Trump thinking he wouldn't last - now they're trying to consolidate the laggers to band together against him in an effort to get their establishment candidate in.

The GOP should be disbanded.


http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/23/trump-fires-warning-shot-at-rnc-that-wasnt-the-deal/

If it goes down that way it means the fix was in all along for Hillary. The Republican Party and Democrat Party are both employees of Multi National Corporations and the rich are not to be trusted.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If it goes down that way it means the fix was in all along for Hillary.


This is THE ONLY way to get Hillary elected. And it will - guaranteed. She is the worst (most unelectable) candidate the Dems have put up since Jimmy Carter's run for a 2nd term.
I think Trump has the potential to be a huge disaster for the country, but if the establishment Republicans force him into a 3rd party run the base's reaction the GOP will be YUGE. Lots of establishment types will go the way of Cantor/Boehner, though it will be too late for the country being stuck with Hillary for 8 years.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
I think Trump has the potential to be a huge disaster for the country, but if the establishment Republicans force him into a 3rd party run the base's reaction the GOP will be YUGE. Lots of establishment types will go the way of Cantor/Boehner, though it will be too late for the country being stuck with Hillary for 8 years until she gets taken down.
The daily caller is having a poll asking whether Trump is an electable general election candidate

its 92% yes
Go Trump.




Travis
Go Jay/Trump
Originally Posted by 338Rem
Go Jay/Trump


That's a ticket I could stand behind.




Clark
Trump is a populist democrat
Trump looking better every day.
Originally Posted by poboy
Trump looking better every day.

+1
Trump/West ticket with Cruz on the SCOTUS.

dave
Duh
I don't see where "the fix is in". This ain't nothin' new. They've been trying to destroy Trump all along. So they're gonna spend even more money to try it some more. Big deal!

It's still too early to conclude anything. I heard Rush today say that the lasted Iowa poll has Cruz in second place now. And if Cruz pushes into the lead, I don't see Trump running 3rd party and screwing him over. I see Trump eventually endorsing him. And vice versa.

They're both enemies of the establishment.
Either Rubio or Bush will be nominated and Hillary R Clinton will be your next president.
Originally Posted by Slavek
Either Rubio or Bush will be nominated and Hillary R Clinton will be your next president.


I am not a fan of Trump. But, if the big money republicans put the screws to The Donald and he runs as a 3rd party, I'm voting Trump. I have about had it with the big money republicans myself.

kwg
Not so long ago, Trump publicly swore allegiance to the Republican Party.

I would have thought the loyalty would run both ways. But I'm not surprised.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Not so long ago, Trump publicly swore allegiance to the Republican Party.

I would have thought the loyalty would run both ways. But I'm not surprised.


MM - you been sniffing your helmet liner again? smile
Disagree.

Cruz has been groomed as the "anti-establishment alternative" to Trump by the establishment.

They'll be used by the milktoaster "nominate someone who can win" dried to divide & conquer Conservatives, then for the sake of his career Cruz will endorse whatever pachyderm felating dousche who makes the ticket.

And then we'll have Hilary.

The fix has ALWAYS been in; no genuine small government ANYONE is going to win the Presidency.

Both parties will see to that.
You guys are getting all worked up over nothing. Take a deep breath and relax. What's changed? Nothing. Everyone of the establishment types have been doing this all along. All it does is steel the voters resolve and Trumps numbers climb even higher.
Originally Posted by efw
Disagree.

Cruz has been groomed as the "anti-establishment alternative" to Trump by the establishment.

They'll be used by the milktoaster "nominate someone who can win" dried to divide & conquer Conservatives, then for the sake of his career Cruz will endorse whatever pachyderm felating dousche who makes the ticket.

And then we'll have Hilary.

The fix has ALWAYS been in; no genuine small government ANYONE is going to win the Presidency.

Both parties will see to that.


Oh, I see! so you think Cruz is the establishment choice? You haven't been paying very close attention then. Do you honestly think that the GOP wants Cruz to be their pick after he publicly call the leadership liars on the floor of the senate? Wake up, man! They hate Cruz's guts.
Fluoride...
Originally Posted by KFWA
GOP makes a deal with Trump thinking he wouldn't last - now they're trying to consolidate the laggers to band together against him in an effort to get their establishment candidate in.

The GOP should be disbanded.


http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/23/trump-fires-warning-shot-at-rnc-that-wasnt-the-deal/



So Trump is supposed to have some special deal? A free ride?

The Establishment is going to fight for their candidates. The Conservatives and Tea Party people will fight for their warriors. That is the way the game is played. Called politics. It does get down and dirty on both sides. Big money outspends little money.

We have to beat them at their own game and the THREAT of a strong third party is one of our best weapons. IF they believe the threat could turn real. That is why the GOP never worried about Ron Paul.

Trump will use this as a negotiating tool to have his way with the GOP. Good for him.
But he needs a thicker tougher skin. And he needs to stop giving them ammo like this to shot him with.
"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering," Trump said.
Originally Posted by las
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Not so long ago, Trump publicly swore allegiance to the Republican Party.

I would have thought the loyalty would run both ways. But I'm not surprised.


MM - you been sniffing your helmet liner again? smile


lol
GOP went along expecting Trump to tank after a short period. Trump didn't tank, so the GOP is going to try playing dirty.

That won't sit well with Trump.
It's hilarious. He's teflon. The harder the media and the Republicans try to kill him, the higher he goes in the polls and the more popular he gets.

The dummies in the Republican Party don't get it. They don't want to give the people the candidate they want. It's another "FU" to the people,you take what we give you so we can stay in power.

They suck. I'm as sick of them as I am of the democrats.
The “deal” Trump is likely referring to is his agreement in September to sign a pledge not to run as an independent. He said at the time he was given the “assurance that I would be treated fairly” by RNC chairman Reince Priebus in return for signing the pledge.

The Wall Street Journal article referenced by Trump is titled “GOP Operative Plans ‘Guerrilla Campaign’ Against Donald Trump.”

“In the absence of our efforts, Trump is exceedingly unlikely to implode or be forced out of the race
,” a memo from the Trump Card LLC states. “The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/23/trump-fires-warning-shot-at-rnc-that-wasnt-the-deal/
This thread reminds me of what they say about terrorists... "Most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims.".

Most Trump fans are not loons, but most loons are Trump fans.
The Trumpnado rolls on!
Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?
The GOP will spend more money and energy getting rid of Trump than they will trying to get the nominee elected. The RNC cabal needs to get rid of Trump before states start electing their national delegates next spring. If they orchestrate a "coup" type maneuver, look for the GOP to be relegated to the Whig Party.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If it goes down that way it means the fix was in all along for Hillary. The Republican Party and Democrat Party are both employees of Multi National Corporations and the rich are not to be trusted.



There you have it in black and white: the neo-Marxist underpinnings of Trumpkin political support revealing itself. Since when was conservatism and liberty ever suspicious of free markets, of corporations, of the rich? Edwards, your rhetoric is Marxist to the core. The hysterical irony of it all of course is that Trump is the quintessential rich insider famous for gaming the very market which he plans as president
to rig even further. It is the height of ignorance to claim that someone hip-deep in chrony capitalism and who has made billions will suddenly turn on all his political alliances and "end" chrony capitalism. Trump is the ultimate corporate chrony capitalist.

https://pjmedia.com/blog/donald-trump-crony-capitalist/1
GMAFB Rob. I mean really? You think that predetermined candidates chosen by a select few versus the people choosing their candidate is closer to your "free market capitalism" non Marxist utopia?

The founding fathers would flog you. So anyone that supports a non politician like Trump is a nazi Marxist?
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
GMAFB Rob. I mean really? You think that predetermined candidates chosen by a select few versus the people choosing their candidate is closer to your "free market capitalism" non Marxist utopia?

The founding fathers would flog you. So anyone that supports a non politician like Trump is a nazi Marxist?


Have you not figured out that Jordan is a f a g?




Clark
Originally Posted by ltppowell
This thread reminds me of what they say about terrorists... "Most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims.".

Most Trump fans are not loons, but most loons are Trump fans.


Quit crying about Cruz and buy a fugking t-shirt already.




Travis
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
GMAFB Rob. I mean really? You think that predetermined candidates chosen by a select few versus the people choosing their candidate is closer to your "free market capitalism" non Marxist utopia?

The founding fathers would flog you. So anyone that supports a non politician like Trump is a nazi Marxist?


Have you not figured out that Jordan is a f a g?




Clark


That's rich coming from a defender of sodomite marriage who has a history on this forum of begging other members to "suck [his] cock". laugh laugh laugh Talk about pot calling the kettle black!

Aces: Just who are the pre-determined candidates? Does the fact that Bill and Hillary encouraged Trump to run not suggest that perhaps he is a "pre-determined" candidate, their "stalking horse"? I swear, for an ostensible conservative forum, there are an awful lot of folks here who hate the Republican party far, far more than the Demonrat party. If Trump continues on his present path, he will hand this election to Hillary because morons of the ilk who inhabit this board (not all---but many) will fail to see that he cannot beat Hillary in the general election.

BTW, "Nazi-Marxist" is an oxymoron. Try "neo-Marxist" next time wink grin and are you really that ignorant of the affinity between populism and Marxism?


Jordan
https://drhurd.com/donald-trump-a-different-kind-of-socialist/

DONALD TRUMP: A DIFFERENT KIND OF SOCIALIST

There’s danger ahead. And its name is Donald Trump.

In recent interviews, Trump has been claiming that there are two things wrong with government policy. The first, he says, is that the stimulus bill should have been used for roads, rather than “pork.” Apparently trillions of dollars in unsustainable debt and devaluation of the currency are acceptable when spent on roads, but not when it’s spent on anything else. The second is that businesses should be restricted or outright forbidden from doing business with China, Mexico, or other foreign nations. This, he says, will “keep jobs in America.” Ridiculous!

Businesses hire Chinese or other foreign workers because it’s cheaper. If they are no longer allowed to do business with foreign companies, then the jobs previously done by them will simply go away. Businesses owe it to their stockholders to make a profit. If that profit is restricted or eliminated by protectionist Big Government policies, then there will be fewer jobs. Slapping foreign trade restrictions on business is no different than taxing them or forcing them to pay for expensive health insurance plans. The expenses and losses created by government restrictions undermine profit, and in the process drive up unemployment — further deepening the recession.

Normally these facts are evaded by people who know nothing about business, like Democrats, liberals and socialists. Now we have someone who is successful at business (and supposedly a Republican) making the same kind of mistake. Trump may run for president as a Republican. If he got the nomination, he would be no more a friend of capitalism than Barack Obama. It would be a matter of ‘choose your poison.’ If Trump runs as an Independent, he’ll kill any chance of a Republican winning the presidency, even a good candidate, and Obama’s clearly socialist agenda will be around for another six years. Trump’s ideology of protectionism refers to government restrictions on business with foreign nations, on the premise that trade should exclusively take place within a country. Protectionism violates the moral and Constitutional right of individuals to freedom of trade, and it makes the world poorer than it otherwise would be.

The worst of the danger is not Trump himself. Hopefully, he’ll go away or simply shut up. But the false “appeal” of protectionism may grow as economic conditions continue to worsen under Obama’s disastrous policies and the Republicans’ inability to quickly reverse any or all of them. This variation of Big Government socialism is something even Bill Clinton was smart enough to oppose—but today’s Obama Democrats will blindly support it. “Sure, we’ll use government to block and restrict trade with China and other countries outside the U.S. But first give us socialized medicine, control over banking, control over the Internet — and then we’ll talk.” This is the kind of governing coalition you could expect if Trump became president, and Congress continued expanding the welfare state as it has done for the last hundred years.

Free market Republicans and Tea Party types are our last hope. If they mean it when they say that government should get out of the way of business, then they will fight protectionism as much as they fight ObamaCare and other socialist disasters. But Obama has already done his damage to our country, and the full effects are yet to be felt. People are going to become more fearful and angry as the economy worsens. If you think we have trouble now, think of what happens when Big Government gets even bigger and essentially shuts down international trade.

I recognize that China is a deeply corrupt government with no respect for individual rights. But shutting down trade will do nothing for individual rights. It will impoverish the United States and lead to even higher unemployment. Historically, protectionism usually leads to war. Government has to get out of the economy altogether and not continue to intensify its already massive role.

Mr. Trump: Mind your own business and please shut up.


Share:
Do you people even read these links? This is the biggest fluff piece of nothing I've seen this week. It has absolutely ZERO substance and is driven by a headline that is not supported by the text. Of course Trump has opponents in the GOP - they are running AGAINST each other! Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Carly, Jeb, etc. ALL have backers that are going to attack the frontrunner. This is called politics.

(This is called nonsense)

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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is firing a warning shot at the Republican National Committee after it was reported that some establishment Republicans are forming an outside organization to try to harm his candidacy.

In a tweet on Monday, Trump referenced a recent Wall Street Journal article about these anti-Trump efforts, tagging the RNC’s official Twitter account, @GOP, in his complaint.

“@WSJ reports that @GOP getting ready to treat me unfairly—big spending planned against me,” Trump tweeted. “That wasn’t the deal!”

The Wall Street Journal report does not say that the RNC is involved. But the story says Liz Mair, the architect of the Trump Card LLC organization described in the article, once worked for the RNC.

The “deal” Trump is likely referring to is his agreement in September to sign a pledge not to run as an independent. He said at the time he was given the “assurance that I would be treated fairly” by RNC chairman Reince Priebus in return for signing the pledge.

The Wall Street Journal article referenced by Trump is titled “GOP Operative Plans ‘Guerrilla Campaign’ Against Donald Trump.”

“In the absence of our efforts, Trump is exceedingly unlikely to implode or be forced out of the race,” a memo from the Trump Card LLC states. “The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If it goes down that way it means the fix was in all along for Hillary. The Republican Party and Democrat Party are both employees of Multi National Corporations and the rich are not to be trusted.



There you have it in black and white: the neo-Marxist underpinnings of Trumpkin political support revealing itself. Since when was conservatism and liberty ever suspicious of free markets, of corporations, of the rich? Edwards, your rhetoric is Marxist to the core. The hysterical irony of it all of course is that Trump is the quintessential rich insider famous for gaming the very market which he plans as president
to rig even further. It is the height of ignorance to claim that someone hip-deep in chrony capitalism and who has made billions will suddenly turn on all his political alliances and "end" chrony capitalism. Trump is the ultimate corporate chrony capitalist.

https://pjmedia.com/blog/donald-trump-crony-capitalist/1
Does this mean we are no longer friends Robjordon? I just don't think I could bear it if we were no longer friends.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
GMAFB Rob. I mean really? You think that predetermined candidates chosen by a select few versus the people choosing their candidate is closer to your "free market capitalism" non Marxist utopia?

The founding fathers would flog you. So anyone that supports a non politician like Trump is a nazi Marxist?


Have you not figured out that Jordan is a f a g?




Clark


That explains a lot. I didn't know Rob was but I knew his boyfriend was.
kwg020,

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I am not a fan of Trump. But, if the big money republicans put the screws to The Donald and he runs as a 3rd party, I'm voting Trump. I have about had it with the big money republicans myself.

kwg


I despise the idea of Trump being president. But if the Big Money Republicans force him to go third party I will vote for the nearly Democrat, Trump.
Some of you people of paranoia just refuse to acknowledge that there is a reason we call this portion of our political system a campaign - as in warlike. The front runner will be the target for all of the others running against them AND the opposition. Most importantly, the backers of the various candidates are out to defeat the opponents and to strengthen the campaign for their people.

I love this chit - "GOP out to get Trump!". Well, yeah, he's the poll leader. Rubio, Carson, Cruz, Jeb, Carly ARE all out to get him and so are their people. BTW, all mentioned ARE GOP.

If Trump flames out, then the next cowboy up is the target. It will go that way until a candidate is named. Then they turn and focus on the other Party.

Some of you are surprised that some money people don't like Trump? Welcome to the real world. They don't all hold hands and sing Kumbaya. Hillary got a rude awakening in '08 when Ted Kennedy and some big money Dems jumped at Obama. Want to tell me the fix was in for Obama? No, Hillary is a bitch and some people don't like her even in her own party.

Trump is a brash bully with a hair triggered mouth. Gee, why would that make enemies? I can't imagine (insert sarcasm emoji here). Some of you need to put down the bong of conspiracy and paranoia, and sit back and let the process unfold. You will know by the Florida Primary who the top 2 dogs will be. Trump's mouth will either make fans be the millions or successfully sabotage his run long before then. The idea that the "the fix is in" or there is some secret deal to get Hillary elected is beyond reason for anyone who understands the American political process.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If it goes down that way it means the fix was in all along for Hillary. The Republican Party and Democrat Party are both employees of Multi National Corporations and the rich are not to be trusted.


Even Karl Marx wouldn't believe that drivel. Marx would write it, but not even he'd believe it.
Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If it goes down that way it means the fix was in all along for Hillary. The Republican Party and Democrat Party are both employees of Multi National Corporations and the rich are not to be trusted.


Even Karl Marx wouldn't believe that drivel. Marx would write it, but not even he'd believe it.


^^^^+1000
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
GMAFB Rob. I mean really? You think that predetermined candidates chosen by a select few versus the people choosing their candidate is closer to your "free market capitalism" non Marxist utopia?

The founding fathers would flog you. So anyone that supports a non politician like Trump is a nazi Marxist?


Have you not figured out that Jordan is a f a g?




Clark


He still hasn't wiped Monica's ex-boyfriend's wife's [bleep] off his chin as I suggested he do.

Wet Naps That there bulk pack should get the job done.

Here's to hoping!

GFY,
Fish
Sea men
'Nother forum member acknowledges he flunked 3rd grade. laugh laugh laugh I accept your inability to respond on the merits for the concession that it is. grin Love it when an argument reduces the opposition to a bunch of whining nancy-girl name-callers. Pathetic.
What I've gathered from this thread is that whichever Republican candidate is nominated, it's just proof the fix has been in for Hillary since the beginning.
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
If it goes down that way it means the fix was in all along for Hillary. The Republican Party and Democrat Party are both employees of Multi National Corporations and the rich are not to be trusted.


Even Karl Marx wouldn't believe that drivel. Marx would write it, but not even he'd believe it.


^^^^+1000
You two pussies should get a room.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by ltppowell
This thread reminds me of what they say about terrorists... "Most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims.".

Most Trump fans are not loons, but most loons are Trump fans.


Quit crying about Cruz and buy a fugking t-shirt already.




Travis


I have one already, but won't wear it 'til Cruz tells me to.
Originally Posted by KMS
Originally Posted by efw
Disagree.

Cruz has been groomed as the "anti-establishment alternative" to Trump by the establishment.

They'll be used by the milktoaster "nominate someone who can win" dried to divide & conquer Conservatives, then for the sake of his career Cruz will endorse whatever pachyderm felating dousche who makes the ticket.

And then we'll have Hilary.

The fix has ALWAYS been in; no genuine small government ANYONE is going to win the Presidency.

Both parties will see to that.


Oh, I see! so you think Cruz is the establishment choice? You haven't been paying very close attention then. Do you honestly think that the GOP wants Cruz to be their pick after he publicly call the leadership liars on the floor of the senate? Wake up, man! They hate Cruz's guts.


Please re-read my post; I said he is the establishments choice for spiriting the Conservative vote and take from Trump, because he is a Party guy who'll support whomever the Republican candidate is.

You disagree?
Originally Posted by SockPuppet
What I've gathered from this thread is that whichever Republican candidate is nominated, it's just proof the fix has been in for Hillary since the beginning.


Hillary doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at being the next POTUS....
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner

Hillary doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at being the next POTUS....


Right.


We're 4 layers deep that Cruz is a GOP mole, and 5 layers deep that Trump is working for Hillary.

How many here refuse to vow to stand against Hillary at all cost?
Originally Posted by kwg020
Originally Posted by Slavek
Either Rubio or Bush will be nominated and Hillary R Clinton will be your next president.


I am not a fan of Trump. But, if the big money republicans put the screws to The Donald and he runs as a 3rd party, I'm voting Trump. I have about had it with the big money republicans myself.

kwg
With his popularity and fairly solid lead in the GOP race I don't see how they can 'force' him to do anything.. If he was smart (and I think he is) he'd stay right where he is and shove their lame-azzed policies/Bush/et al right down their collective throats..
What is it about "three initial names" from blue states [DJS comes to mind] that compels y'all to make stupid posts?
Originally Posted by RWE
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner

Hillary doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at being the next POTUS....


Right.


We're 4 layers deep that Cruz is a GOP mole, and 5 layers deep that Trump is working for Hillary.

How many here refuse to vow to stand against Hillary at all cost?


.....if Bush is somehow the nominee, Hillary DOES have a chance & we're totally [bleep] as a Nation...
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?


finally , someone that gets it.
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?


Because they don't have any BALLS....
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?


Because they don't have any BALLS....


No, it's because the establishment is the ESTABLISHMENT. It consists of Republicans and Democrats alike. They are bought and paid for by special interest groups and do not want their bird nest on the ground disturbed.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?


Because they don't have any BALLS....


No, it's because the establishment is the ESTABLISHMENT. It consists of Republicans and Democrats alike. They are bought and paid for by special interest groups and do not want their bird nest on the ground disturbed.


another winner , two in one thread , on the same morning !

its going to be a great day.
Originally Posted by RobJordan

That's rich coming from a defender of sodomite marriage who has a history on this forum of begging other members to "suck [his] cock". laugh laugh laugh Talk about pot calling the kettle black!





It's a shame your ability to read isn't commensurate with your ability to suck COCK.



Dave



Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?


finally , someone that gets it.


Because they prefer Hillary and Obama to Trump.

You'd have to be a blind retard to not see it at this point.




Travis
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?


finally , someone that gets it.


Because they prefer Hillary and Obama to Trump.

You'd have to be a blind retard to not see it at this point.




Travis


Correct. It has been "Bush or Bust", since day one. The establishment is in crisis management mode now trying to shift resources to Rubio.
Someone please tell me that they didn't see this coming the moment the GOP implored Trump to sign that oath of allegiance and say he'd not go third party. This was in the plans the whole time. They do NOT want him in there and they waited until it became overly apparent that he has a strong likelihood of becoming the nominee.
In defense of the GOP, any of the legitimate candidates going third party guaranties Hillary the White House again.
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by SockPuppet
What I've gathered from this thread is that whichever Republican candidate is nominated, it's just proof the fix has been in for Hillary since the beginning.


Hillary doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at being the next POTUS....
I believe this thread proves otherwise.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
In defense of the GOP, any of the legitimate candidates going third party guaranties Hillary the White House again.


So, it would behoove them to not be stupid and pull some behind the scenes coup to boot the peoples choice. The only reason they let him stay this long is they thought he'd implode by now.
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by SockPuppet
What I've gathered from this thread is that whichever Republican candidate is nominated, it's just proof the fix has been in for Hillary since the beginning.


Hillary doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at being the next POTUS....
I believe this thread proves otherwise.


Only the election will prove otherwise...
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
GMAFB Rob. I mean really? You think that predetermined candidates chosen by a select few versus the people choosing their candidate is closer to your "free market capitalism" non Marxist utopia?

The founding fathers would flog you. So anyone that supports a non politician like Trump is a nazi Marxist?


Have you not figured out that Jordan is a f a g?




Clark


That's rich coming from a defender of sodomite marriage who has a history on this forum of begging other members to "suck [his] cock". laugh laugh laugh Talk about pot calling the kettle black!

Aces: Just who are the pre-determined candidates? Does the fact that Bill and Hillary encouraged Trump to run not suggest that perhaps he is a "pre-determined" candidate, their "stalking horse"? I swear, for an ostensible conservative forum, there are an awful lot of folks here who hate the Republican party far, far more than the Demonrat party. If Trump continues on his present path, he will hand this election to Hillary because morons of the ilk who inhabit this board (not all---but many) will fail to see that he cannot beat Hillary in the general election.

BTW, "Nazi-Marxist" is an oxymoron. Try "neo-Marxist" next time wink grin and are you really that ignorant of the affinity between populism and Marxism?


Jordan


Damn, Flave. I think you struck a root canal or sumpin.
They are scared of Trump.
They cannot buy him, they cannot control him and they just don't get it that people are tired of the SOS.
Originally Posted by Rye77
Originally Posted by ltppowell
In defense of the GOP, any of the legitimate candidates going third party guaranties Hillary the White House again.


So, it would behoove them to not be stupid and pull some behind the scenes coup to boot the peoples choice. The only reason they let him stay this long is they thought he'd implode by now.


If he's the people's choice, why would he need to threaten to run third party?
Because the peoples choice isn't necessarily that of those in power. If they can't control him, they don't want him.
Originally Posted by local_dirt

Damn, Flave. I think you struck a root canal or sumpin.


F a g s hate being called f a g s.




Dave
If the GOP pushes this too far and try to ostracize Trump and undermine what the polls have been telling them for months then they truly are more stupid than I could have imagined.

Win the battle, lose the war.

Fuggin idiots.
Originally Posted by twofish
If the GOP pushes this too far and try to ostracize Trump and undermine what the polls have been telling them for months then they truly are more stupid than I could have imagined.

Win the battle, lose the war.

Fuggin idiots.


Would you say the same thing if Carson threatened to run third party because the other candidates are being mean to him?
Originally Posted by twofish
If the GOP pushes this too far and try to ostracize Trump and undermine what the polls have been telling them for months then they truly are more stupid than I could have imagined.

Win the battle, lose the war.

Fuggin idiots.


The leadership of the GOP would rather have Hillary than Trump.

Just as they preferred Obama to Ron Paul. The neocons knew that they could control Obama and they did. In fact, William Kristol referred to Obama as a "born again neocon".

Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by twofish
If the GOP pushes this too far and try to ostracize Trump and undermine what the polls have been telling them for months then they truly are more stupid than I could have imagined.

Win the battle, lose the war.

Fuggin idiots.


Would you say the same thing if Carson threatened to run third party because the other candidates are being mean to him?


Yes I would. If they are so in love with their establishment candidate(s) that they will sacrifice the election and ignore the overwhelming will of the masses (see polls) just to eliminate someone other than their "chosen one".

Again,

Fuggin idiots...
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by twofish
If the GOP pushes this too far and try to ostracize Trump and undermine what the polls have been telling them for months then they truly are more stupid than I could have imagined.

Win the battle, lose the war.

Fuggin idiots.


The leadership of the GOP would rather have Hillary than Trump.

Just as they preferred Obama to Ron Paul. The neocons knew that they could control Obama and they did. In fact, William Kristol referred to Obama as a "born again neocon".



You may be right but I sure hope you are wrong.

twofish
Hillary has too much baggage even for the democrats.
Okay, I'm with you. Maybe all of the top tier should go third party.
Originally Posted by twofish
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by twofish
If the GOP pushes this too far and try to ostracize Trump and undermine what the polls have been telling them for months then they truly are more stupid than I could have imagined.

Win the battle, lose the war.

Fuggin idiots.


The leadership of the GOP would rather have Hillary than Trump.

Just as they preferred Obama to Ron Paul. The neocons knew that they could control Obama and they did. In fact, William Kristol referred to Obama as a "born again neocon".



You may be right but I sure hope you are wrong.

twofish


I'm not always right, but I'm right about this.
Originally Posted by twofish
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by twofish
If the GOP pushes this too far and try to ostracize Trump and undermine what the polls have been telling them for months then they truly are more stupid than I could have imagined.

Win the battle, lose the war.

Fuggin idiots.


The leadership of the GOP would rather have Hillary than Trump.



You may be right but I sure hope you are wrong.

twofish


He's not wrong. They would rather have Hillary than any of the top three.
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by SockPuppet
What I've gathered from this thread is that whichever Republican candidate is nominated, it's just proof the fix has been in for Hillary since the beginning.


Hillary doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell at being the next POTUS....
I believe this thread proves otherwise.


Only the election will prove otherwise...
Not at all. Your statement that she doesn't have a chance is disproven by all the infighting found on this thread. She does have a chance and it's thanks to those who claim to not be lieberals, yet appear to be committed to help lieberals win. And the only reason for that is summed up in two words: Donald Trump. Neither by coincidence but by design.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Okay, I'm with you. Maybe all of the top tier should go third party.


This is not an H. Ross Perot deal. IMHO none of the "top tier candidates" has any desire to do anything but what is best for the country, not sabotage the election which is what the GOP would be doing if any of this comes to pass.

If so then I suppose Bristoe is dead on.

twofish

Here is the latest ad from the super PAC supporting Kasich.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/john-kasich-superpac-ad-donald-trump-216158#ixzz3sLD5Q5Xv



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The super PAC supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich's presidential bid released its first direct attack ad against Donald Trump on Monday.

The 47-second Web ad is the first spot from the New Day for America super PAC in its planned $2.5 million campaign to knock Trump from his perch atop Republican primary polls. The super PAC previously released an ad featuring an image of Trump side by side with President Barack Obama but the ad Monday marked the first to mention the mogul by name.



Originally Posted by ltppowell
Okay, I'm with you. Maybe all of the top tier should go third party.


The establishment would love to see this happen; any scenerio which gives them a plausible reason why their milk toast pansy candidate loses in the election will suffice.

Do I love Trump? Heck no. Do I dislike him less than others? In some ways. I'd love to see Carson win the nomination but am not sure he is "mean enough" to get the job done once in office.

One thing I KNOW is that what we've been doing by nominating the guy the MSM & establishment Party people tell us are "electable" hasn't worked. We can't do a Bush Rubio Kasich et al candidate. We need BAWLS like the Dems have.
Originally Posted by twofish
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Okay, I'm with you. Maybe all of the top tier should go third party.


This is not an H. Ross Perot deal. IMHO none of the "top tier candidates" has any desire to do anything but what is best for the country, not sabotage the election which is what the GOP would be doing if any of this comes to pass.

If so then I suppose Bristoe is dead on.

twofish



My point is that maybe it's time that that the GOP be replaced by a "different" second party, since the establishment Dems and Reps are one and the same. It would make life a lot better if people like McCain, Boenher and McConnell weren't switch hitting.
Amen; LONG past due & NEVER gonna happen.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Hillary has too much baggage even for the democrats.
We wish...
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Hillary has too much baggage even for the democrats.
We wish...


Honorable men can not think like a Democrat. It's not their fault.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
In defense of the GOP, any of the legitimate candidates going third party guaranties Hillary the White House again.


and since they'd rather have Hillary than Trump......

its not Trump that is tricking America into another Hillary presidency.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by twofish
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Okay, I'm with you. Maybe all of the top tier should go third party.


This is not an H. Ross Perot deal. IMHO none of the "top tier candidates" has any desire to do anything but what is best for the country, not sabotage the election which is what the GOP would be doing if any of this comes to pass.

If so then I suppose Bristoe is dead on.

twofish



My point is that maybe it's time that that the GOP be replaced by a "different" second party, since the establishment Dems and Reps are one and the same. It would make life a lot better if people like McCain, Boenher and McConnell weren't switch hitting.


I don't disagree with that. It has been time.
They couldn't stab him in the back if they tried. And when they do it will be at their own peril. Stupid fuggers.
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Laura Ingram said this morning--
Why doesn't the GOP fight against Obama and Hillary as hard as they do against Trump?


The GOP is on its last leg. All we're seeing is the death kicks.
If Trump is back stabbed and goes 3rd party, he should be able to convince Sanders to go 3rd party also.....then things will be interesting.
Trump/Cruz would be cool. I like Dr. Carson but don't think he has the stones to deal with the wolves in D.C.

Dr. Carson would be my choice for surgeon general or the Supreme Court. He'd need less studying of constitutional law than most of the current court.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by KFWA
GOP makes a deal with Trump thinking he wouldn't last - now they're trying to consolidate the laggers to band together against him in an effort to get their establishment candidate in.

The GOP should be disbanded.


http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/23/trump-fires-warning-shot-at-rnc-that-wasnt-the-deal/



So Trump is supposed to have some special deal? A free ride?

The Establishment is going to fight for their candidates. The Conservatives and Tea Party people will fight for their warriors. That is the way the game is played. Called politics. It does get down and dirty on both sides. Big money outspends little money.

We have to beat them at their own game and the THREAT of a strong third party is one of our best weapons. IF they believe the threat could turn real. That is why the GOP never worried about Ron Paul.

Trump will use this as a negotiating tool to have his way with the GOP. Good for him.
But he needs a thicker tougher skin. And he needs to stop giving them ammo like this to shot him with.
"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering," Trump said.


The GOP does not want Trump and they sure as hell do not want a third party.
Originally Posted by NeBassman
Here is the latest ad from the super PAC supporting Kasich.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/john-kasich-superpac-ad-donald-trump-216158#ixzz3sLD5Q5Xv



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The super PAC supporting Ohio Gov. John Kasich's presidential bid released its first direct attack ad against Donald Trump on Monday.

The 47-second Web ad is the first spot from the New Day for America super PAC in its planned $2.5 million campaign to knock Trump from his perch atop Republican primary polls. The super PAC previously released an ad featuring an image of Trump side by side with President Barack Obama but the ad Monday marked the first to mention the mogul by name.




Nothing new there.

Nothing that has hurt Trump yet.

Since there's nothing new, nothing damaging, I bet that at minimum does nothing; and at max helps Trump.
Here is another one from Kasich, hard to say if this will hurt Trump or not. My guess is not but you never know. Is Kasich just a tool of the GOP?

At this point I would be surprised if Trump did not end up as the nominee.

John Kasich Video Links Donald Trump To Nazi Germany - Huff Post

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Ohio Gov. John Kasich's (R) presidential campaign on Tuesday released a web ad that links Donald Trump to Nazi Germany.

The 60-second spot, titled "Trump's Dangerous Rhetoric," features retired Air Force Col. Tom Moe, a prisoner of war in Vietnam, speaking at an event before Trump's campaign stop Monday evening in Columbus. Moe paraphrases Protestant pastor Martin Niemöller, who spoke out publicly against the Nazi regime and spent years in Nazi concentration camps, as images of Trump's controversial rhetoric flash on screen.




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The Kasich campaign last week shifted its attention squarely to Trump, arguing the real estate mogul is unfit for the White House. But the video is the darkest hit yet against the longtime front-runner by a fellow Republican candidate for president.
That sounded like a threat from Col. Tom Moe. "You better hope there's someone left to help you."

And by the way, Col. Tom/Kasich, Trump never called for all hispanics to be deported.

The more they attack him, the higher his poll numbers will go.
The current GOP/RNC must suffer a crushing defeat before a re-birth of conservative American thought can begin.
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