For me its between Cruz and Trump

Tuesday is voting day in Oklahoma. I am still undecided. I am considering only two candidates . . . Cruz and Trump. The number one quality for Cruz is he claims he will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that same oath decades ago, so it is really important to me. On the other hand, Trump is a proven business man who has the demonstrated knowledge and leadership to turn around our failing economy and put us on the road to solving our debt problem. Both claim they will build a wall and get all the illegals out of our country. Not sure who I am going to vote for. A Trump/Cruz ticket would be a dream team for me. Let Trump fix the economy and build the wall, while Cruz seasons and prepares to take over in eight years.

Trump is too old to do eight years

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

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Both claim they will build a wall and get all the illegals out of our country.

Unless he has no choice but to hire them

Your choice is between a Liberal and a Conservative.

In fact, it's between a principled Conservative and an egomaniac with no real convictions beyond self-satisfaction.

If Oklahoma can't hold the Conservative line.... we're all lost.

It doesn't count for much as far as delegates in a primary, or Electoral votes in the General, but it, not Texas, is the symbol of Conservatism.

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

It's evident that Trump is the non establishment GOP candidate. All Republicans will vote for a non establishment GOP candidate but non establishment Republicans won't vote for an establishment candidate in the general election.

Republicans have to have a non establishment candidate to win the general election.

That's really all that needs to be said.

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

http://spectator.org/
Trump, who inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father, failed with Trump Steaks, failed with Trump Vodka, failed with the United States Football League, failed with Trump Air, failed with Trump Mortgage company, failed with his major companies’ four infamous bankruptcies, and failed spectacularly with a real-estate seminar series grandiosely called Trump University, even though it awarded no accredited degrees.

For the latter, he appeared in ads saying the seminars would feature his own personal investment strategies and instructors he hand-picked — but in a court deposition, he admitted he couldn’t identify any of the teachers and was almost entirely unfamiliar with course contents. The enterprise folded some five years ago, but remains subject to three major lawsuits alleging deceptive trade practices. The complaints allege that those taking the seminars paid up to $35,000 for near-useless information and for promised “mentoring” that rarely was provided.

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

As so many of these mom-and-pop businesses were left unpaid, Trump himself, in one business “restructuring” of major Trump debts, was “limited” to a strict, personal monthly living allowance of $450,000 — as much in a single month as some of his bankruptcy creditors might make in 10 years.

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

Having worked in key leadership positions in major O&G this is spot on. Bringing on and empowering the right folks is key and a good leader/businessman knows how to do this. He knows this stuff.

Originally Posted by watch4bear

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

And lost as much as he's won.

When you consider that 1 side wins and 1 loses, the Cruzer has been as effective as a monkey with a crayon.

Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing in his entire career, except promote himself.

Typical establishment loser.

Now, the Cruzer acts as if he was just watchin this stuff happen in congress, steada bein the person that coulda made a change.

Except he did nothing of any effect.

DT has had successes and failures. But he was *and is* the man in the arena.

And he has actually made a difference, all by himself.

No "congress" to blame, no O'Buckwheat, who the Cruzer *never* stopped, on any issue.

Vote for somebody who's actually accomplished something in life, or vote for the Cruzer.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by watch4bear

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

And lost as much as he's won.

When you consider that 1 side wins and 1 loses, the Cruzer has been as effective as a monkey with a crayon.

Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing in his entire career, except promote himself.

Typical establishment loser.

Now, the Cruzer acts as if he was just watchin this stuff happen in congress, steada bein the person that coulda made a change.

Except he did nothing of any effect.

DT has had successes and failures. But he was *and is* the man in the arena.

And he has actually made a difference, all by himself.

No "congress" to blame, no O'Buckwheat, who the Cruzer *never* stopped, on any issue.

Vote for somebody who's actually accomplished something in life, or vote for the Cruzer.

Trump will have Plenty of opportunities to blame Congress if elected.

DC will not let him run things like he runs his business. They'll fight him tooth 'n nail; he an outsider, not one of Them.

I believe the SCOTUS will teach him some manners along the way, also.

He'll be hated by both parties and get nothing he is promising.

Originally Posted by EdM

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

Having worked in key leadership positions in major O&G this is spot on. Bringing on and empowering the right folks is key and a good leader/businessman knows how to do this. He knows this stuff.

100% spot on.

Originally Posted by OrangeOkie

Tuesday is voting day in Oklahoma. I am still undecided. I am considering only two candidates . . . Cruz and Trump. The number one quality for Cruz is he claims he will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that same oath decades ago, so it is really important to me. On the other hand, Trump is a proven business man who has the demonstrated knowledge and leadership to turn around our failing economy and put us on the road to solving our debt problem. Both claim they will build a wall and get all the illegals out of our country. Not sure who I am going to vote for. A Trump/Cruz ticket would be a dream team for me. Let Trump fix the economy and build the wall, while Cruz seasons and prepares to take over in eight years.

I'd go with Cruz over that shyster from NewYork..
A gentleman over a brash brat.
Cruz on the same ticket with trump is NOT going to happen.

If it was me that sTrump was calling a "liar" up on that stage, I'd have said out loud to that mofo.."one more time axxhole and I'll knock that dead cat off the top of your head"!
Mr.Cruz is too much of a gentleman. Cause you would not get far arguing a case in front of the Supreme Court with trumperTantrums!
I hate Bullies, especially NYork bullies who think their sheit dont stink.

Originally Posted by Penobscot_99

Originally Posted by OrangeOkie

Tuesday is voting day in Oklahoma. I am still undecided. I am considering only two candidates . . . Cruz and Trump. The number one quality for Cruz is he claims he will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that same oath decades ago, so it is really important to me. On the other hand, Trump is a proven business man who has the demonstrated knowledge and leadership to turn around our failing economy and put us on the road to solving our debt problem. Both claim they will build a wall and get all the illegals out of our country. Not sure who I am going to vote for. A Trump/Cruz ticket would be a dream team for me. Let Trump fix the economy and build the wall, while Cruz seasons and prepares to take over in eight years.

I'd go with Cruz over that shyster from NewYork..
A gentleman over a brash brat.
Cruz on the same ticket with trump is NOT going to happen.

If it was me that sTrump was calling a "liar" up on that stage, I'd have said out loud to that mofo.."one more time axxhole and I'll knock that dead cat off the top of your head"!
Mr.Cruz is too much of a gentleman. Cause you would not get far arguing a case in front of the Supreme Court with trumperTantrums!
I hate Bullies, especially NYork bullies who think their sheit dont stink.

I'd hate to spend my life still pissed about all those 6th grade wedgies in the locker room.

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

http://spectator.org/
Trump, who inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father, failed with Trump Steaks, failed with Trump Vodka, failed with the United States Football League, failed with Trump Air, failed with Trump Mortgage company, failed with his major companies’ four infamous bankruptcies, and failed spectacularly with a real-estate seminar series grandiosely called Trump University, even though it awarded no accredited degrees.

For the latter, he appeared in ads saying the seminars would feature his own personal investment strategies and instructors he hand-picked — but in a court deposition, he admitted he couldn’t identify any of the teachers and was almost entirely unfamiliar with course contents. The enterprise folded some five years ago, but remains subject to three major lawsuits alleging deceptive trade practices. The complaints allege that those taking the seminars paid up to $35,000 for near-useless information and for promised “mentoring” that rarely was provided.

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

As so many of these mom-and-pop businesses were left unpaid, Trump himself, in one business “restructuring” of major Trump debts, was “limited” to a strict, personal monthly living allowance of $450,000 — as much in a single month as some of his bankruptcy creditors might make in 10 years.

Let me sum that up for you:
sTrump is a CROOK!

Originally Posted by luv2safari

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by watch4bear

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

And lost as much as he's won.

When you consider that 1 side wins and 1 loses, the Cruzer has been as effective as a monkey with a crayon.

Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing in his entire career, except promote himself.

Typical establishment loser.

Now, the Cruzer acts as if he was just watchin this stuff happen in congress, steada bein the person that coulda made a change.

Except he did nothing of any effect.

DT has had successes and failures. But he was *and is* the man in the arena.

And he has actually made a difference, all by himself.

No "congress" to blame, no O'Buckwheat, who the Cruzer *never* stopped, on any issue.

Vote for somebody who's actually accomplished something in life, or vote for the Cruzer.

Trump will have Plenty of opportunities to blame Congress if elected.

DC will not let him run things like he runs his business. They'll fight him tooth 'n nail; he an outsider, not one of Them.

I believe the SCOTUS will teach him some manners along the way, also.

He'll be hated by both parties and get nothing he is promising.

Polyanna BS, mostly.

DT WILL get the opportunities, but if his policies, the will of the people that elected him, are blocked, then it's the congress, not DT, that is to blame.

Yes, establishment hacks like the Cruzer will try to stop DT from making changes that hurt their donors.

So, DT will need the continued support of the people to vote out the losers that continue to thwart what the people want.

IOW, Trump will have pushed this country back to where it should be.

And, he's proven that you don't have to be an insider hack, or necessarily wealthy, to get elected.

DT will be the most inspirational president in recent history, based on what he's already accomplished in getting there.

Supreme kangaroos? Well, John "Cruzer" Roberts and the skirts sure showed O'Buckwheat, didn't they?

I like Cruz, and I think he is the most conservative of the R candidates. He's not going to get the nomination and it's his own fault. Someone in his campaign should have coached that TV preacher delivery out of him long ago. I can't stand to listen to him talk.

Trump is going to win it all in a landslide.

Bowsinger, or should I call you the Cut and Paste Queen..

Failures mean nothing. You can have hundreds of failures.. but, in the business world it just takes one or two successes.

That's something you guys don't get. You can fail at 10 businesses, and go bankrupt 10 times. But, if on that 11th time it "works", you'll make an absolute pile of money.

Trump is a businessman. He was not afraid to fail. And, he got more than enough "right".

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

http://spectator.org/
Trump, who inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father, failed with Trump Steaks, failed with Trump Vodka, failed with the United States Football League, failed with Trump Air, failed with Trump Mortgage company, failed with his major companies’ four infamous bankruptcies, and failed spectacularly with a real-estate seminar series grandiosely called Trump University, even though it awarded no accredited degrees.

For the latter, he appeared in ads saying the seminars would feature his own personal investment strategies and instructors he hand-picked — but in a court deposition, he admitted he couldn’t identify any of the teachers and was almost entirely unfamiliar with course contents. The enterprise folded some five years ago, but remains subject to three major lawsuits alleging deceptive trade practices. The complaints allege that those taking the seminars paid up to $35,000 for near-useless information and for promised “mentoring” that rarely was provided.

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

As so many of these mom-and-pop businesses were left unpaid, Trump himself, in one business “restructuring” of major Trump debts, was “limited” to a strict, personal monthly living allowance of $450,000 — as much in a single month as some of his bankruptcy creditors might make in 10 years.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by watch4bear

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

And lost as much as he's won.

When you consider that 1 side wins and 1 loses, the Cruzer has been as effective as a monkey with a crayon.

Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing in his entire career, except promote himself.

Typical establishment loser.

Now, the Cruzer acts as if he was just watchin this stuff happen in congress, steada bein the person that coulda made a change.

Except he did nothing of any effect.

DT has had successes and failures. But he was *and is* the man in the arena.

And he has actually made a difference, all by himself.

No "congress" to blame, no O'Buckwheat, who the Cruzer *never* stopped, on any issue.

Vote for somebody who's actually accomplished something in life, or vote for the Cruzer.

Served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008, making him the first Hispanic Solicitor General in Texas, the youngest Solicitor General in the entire country and the longest tenure in Texas history
Partner at the law firm Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, where he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national appellate litigation practice
Authored over 80 SCOTUS briefs and presented over 40 oral arguments before The Court
In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of 31 states in defense of the principle that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. And won.
Presented oral arguments before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
Defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds. And won.
Defended the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. And won.
Defended the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States

As a junior Senator and spending his first two years as a member of the minority party, Cruz helped stop a ton of of the Obama agenda.

LMAO at that reasoning. There won't be any honeymoon, and the established and entrenched in Congress will have a field day working over a "reality" show star.

Reality will set in immediately, and DT will go batschidt nuts that he can't bully his way around DC.

Originally Posted by Penobscot_99

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

http://spectator.org/
Trump, who inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father, failed with Trump Steaks, failed with Trump Vodka, failed with the United States Football League, failed with Trump Air, failed with Trump Mortgage company, failed with his major companies’ four infamous bankruptcies, and failed spectacularly with a real-estate seminar series grandiosely called Trump University, even though it awarded no accredited degrees.

For the latter, he appeared in ads saying the seminars would feature his own personal investment strategies and instructors he hand-picked — but in a court deposition, he admitted he couldn’t identify any of the teachers and was almost entirely unfamiliar with course contents. The enterprise folded some five years ago, but remains subject to three major lawsuits alleging deceptive trade practices. The complaints allege that those taking the seminars paid up to $35,000 for near-useless information and for promised “mentoring” that rarely was provided.

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

As so many of these mom-and-pop businesses were left unpaid, Trump himself, in one business “restructuring” of major Trump debts, was “limited” to a strict, personal monthly living allowance of $450,000 — as much in a single month as some of his bankruptcy creditors might make in 10 years.

Let me sum that up for you:
sTrump is a CROOK!

Hey look, it's that idiot penupthebut99.

Hey tough guy, post a picture of yourself so we can all laugh at your fat ass.

Trump is turning the old guard against the establishment GOP, also. Or maybe it would be more correct to say that the establishment is turning the old guard against the establishment GOP.

Somebody mentioned earlier that Newt Gingrich has been talking to Trump over the past few days.

Now, I'm not a huge fan of Gingrich, but I'd never claim that he's not a very shrewd, very intelligent political figure.

My opinion is, Gingrich saw that the establishment GOP had gotten so weak that it had to depend on an unqualified lightweight like Rubio, and decided that they're done for.

When somebody like Gingrich abandons ship, it's significant.

Originally Posted by Calvin

Bowsinger, or should I call you the Cut and Paste Queen..

Failures mean nothing. You can have hundreds of failures.. but, in the business world it just takes one or two successes.

That's something you guys don't get. You can fail at 10 businesses, and go bankrupt 10 times. But, if on that 11th time it "works", you'll make an absolute pile of money.

Trump is a businessman. He was not afraid to fail. And, he got more than enough "right".

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

And F**ked the little guy...

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Calvin

Bowsinger, or should I call you the Cut and Paste Queen..

Failures mean nothing. You can have hundreds of failures.. but, in the business world it just takes one or two successes.

That's something you guys don't get. You can fail at 10 businesses, and go bankrupt 10 times. But, if on that 11th time it "works", you'll make an absolute pile of money.

Trump is a businessman. He was not afraid to fail. And, he got more than enough "right".

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

And F**ked the little guy...

Then vote for Bernie so you can stick it to the capitalist pig!

Just in,...

good read:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/02/patrick-j-buchanan/hillary-vs-donald/

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Calvin

Bowsinger, or should I call you the Cut and Paste Queen..

Failures mean nothing. You can have hundreds of failures.. but, in the business world it just takes one or two successes.

That's something you guys don't get. You can fail at 10 businesses, and go bankrupt 10 times. But, if on that 11th time it "works", you'll make an absolute pile of money.

Trump is a businessman. He was not afraid to fail. And, he got more than enough "right".

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

And F**ked the little guy...

'singer,

You think lending is a risk free business? Really?

If you make a loan to a business, you are making a calculated risk whether or not that business will remain viable and be able to pay back it's loans. You make that risk for the opportunity to collect interest on that money you are lending. I'm sure Trump has paid a mountain of interest to those very same lenders over the years.

Nobody is a victim. Everybody knew the risks, and nobody held a gun to the lenders heads to force them to make those loans. You really have no clue as to how business works, do you?

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by watch4bear

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

And lost as much as he's won.

When you consider that 1 side wins and 1 loses, the Cruzer has been as effective as a monkey with a crayon.

Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing in his entire career, except promote himself.

Typical establishment loser.

Now, the Cruzer acts as if he was just watchin this stuff happen in congress, steada bein the person that coulda made a change.

Except he did nothing of any effect.

DT has had successes and failures. But he was *and is* the man in the arena.

And he has actually made a difference, all by himself.

No "congress" to blame, no O'Buckwheat, who the Cruzer *never* stopped, on any issue.

Vote for somebody who's actually accomplished something in life, or vote for the Cruzer.

Served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008, making him the first Hispanic Solicitor General in Texas, the youngest Solicitor General in the entire country and the longest tenure in Texas history
Partner at the law firm Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, where he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national appellate litigation practice
Authored over 80 SCOTUS briefs and presented over 40 oral arguments before The Court
In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of 31 states in defense of the principle that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. And won.
Presented oral arguments before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
Defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds. And won.
Defended the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. And won.
Defended the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States

As a junior Senator and spending his first two years as a member of the minority party, Cruz helped stop a ton of of the Obama agenda.

Hmmm! I did not see sTrumpee mentioned in any of those fights for our rights!
Thank You Ted Cruz. Phugg you Donald...friggen Crook!

Originally Posted by OrangeOkie

Tuesday is voting day in Oklahoma. I am still undecided. I am considering only two candidates . . . Cruz and Trump. The number one quality for Cruz is he claims he will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that same oath decades ago, so it is really important to me. On the other hand, Trump is a proven business man who has the demonstrated knowledge and leadership to turn around our failing economy and put us on the road to solving our debt problem. Both claim they will build a wall and get all the illegals out of our country. Not sure who I am going to vote for. A Trump/Cruz ticket would be a dream team for me. Let Trump fix the economy and build the wall, while Cruz seasons and prepares to take over in eight years.

To me, Cruz is my first choice by a long way. He has a proven conservative record. He has fought the establishment when it wasn't popular. He has a proven record for gun rights. He was a key litigator that won the Heller case.

Trump says he is going to do a lot, but has never said how this can happen.
1. Do you really believe Mexico is going to pay for the wall?
2. Do you really believe Trump is going to get Apple to bring the manufacturing of the I-phone to the US???
3. Do you really believe he is going to get China to devalue their dollars, or is he just going to get us in trouble with our debt?
4. I haven't heard he say anything about how he's going to deal with the debt.
5. Frankly we have no reason to trust anything he's said. Except, "I can be anything I want, any time I want, to anyone. That's encouraging.
I vote a week from Tuesday. No doubt in my mind. If trump does get the nomination I will vote for him, but I'm concerned about it. I'm not even positive he'll be better than Klin ton, but I'm hopeful.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by watch4bear

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

And lost as much as he's won.

When you consider that 1 side wins and 1 loses, the Cruzer has been as effective as a monkey with a crayon.

Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing in his entire career, except promote himself.

Typical establishment loser.

Now, the Cruzer acts as if he was just watchin this stuff happen in congress, steada bein the person that coulda made a change.

Except he did nothing of any effect.

DT has had successes and failures. But he was *and is* the man in the arena.

And he has actually made a difference, all by himself.

No "congress" to blame, no O'Buckwheat, who the Cruzer *never* stopped, on any issue.

Vote for somebody who's actually accomplished something in life, or vote for the Cruzer.

Sounds to me like you prefer a roll of the dice to a known conservative quantity. There just is NOT any evidence that Trump is conservative. He says he can be anyone he wants to be any time. I think he is telling people what they want to hear. I see no reason to believe he can accomplish a single thing he's said.

The Democrats will steamroll Cruz. Not as bad as they'll steamroll Rubio, but you'll need a micrometer to tell the difference.

Trump isn't just an candidate. He's a political phenomenon.

Nobody else running for the GOP nomination will get out the vote.

Trump will.

Trump, so far no substance and no details of how he will do it.

A one liner guy.

I don't trust him.

Cruz, says how he will do it with detail and has a proven track record.

Originally Posted by OrangeOkie

Tuesday is voting day in Oklahoma. I am still undecided. I am considering only two candidates . . . Cruz and Trump. The number one quality for Cruz is he claims he will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that same oath decades ago, so it is really important to me. On the other hand, Trump is a proven business man who has the demonstrated knowledge and leadership to turn around our failing economy and put us on the road to solving our debt problem. Both claim they will build a wall and get all the illegals out of our country. Not sure who I am going to vote for. A Trump/Cruz ticket would be a dream team for me. Let Trump fix the economy and build the wall, while Cruz seasons and prepares to take over in eight years.

OO, it looks like Kansas may have an actual primary this year. The only two left I'm interested in are Cruz and Trump. I won't run Cruz down, but I think Trump is the better choice and that's who I'll vote for. I think Ted would make a great SCOTUS Justice. IMO, Trump is a lot like Reagan in that he knows how to delegate. Trump.

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Trump is too old to do eight years

Bullsch!!T

Trump is the same age as Reagan when he was elected.

Originally Posted by OrangeOkie

Tuesday is voting day in Oklahoma. I am still undecided. I am considering only two candidates . . . Cruz and Trump. The number one quality for Cruz is he claims he will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that same oath decades ago, so it is really important to me. On the other hand, Trump is a proven business man who has the demonstrated knowledge and leadership to turn around our failing economy and put us on the road to solving our debt problem. Both claim they will build a wall and get all the illegals out of our country. Not sure who I am going to vote for. A Trump/Cruz ticket would be a dream team for me. Let Trump fix the economy and build the wall, while Cruz seasons and prepares to take over in eight years.

Who do you trust to nominate to the Supreme Court - a guy that revered Rehnquist (he clerked for him) and Scalia, argued 9 cases at the Supreme Court and even won a case at SCOTUS to keep the 10 Commandments on the Texas Capitol grounds, or the guy that thinks his liberal sister would make a good supreme court justice?

I'm sure, we'll all be happy when this is over, and there is a good man in the WH.

Don't complicate the simple.

Trump is the only GOP candidate who can win the general election.

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

http://spectator.org/
Trump, who inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father, failed with Trump Steaks, failed with Trump Vodka, failed with the United States Football League, failed with Trump Air, failed with Trump Mortgage company, failed with his major companies’ four infamous bankruptcies, and failed spectacularly with a real-estate seminar series grandiosely called Trump University, even though it awarded no accredited degrees.

For the latter, he appeared in ads saying the seminars would feature his own personal investment strategies and instructors he hand-picked — but in a court deposition, he admitted he couldn’t identify any of the teachers and was almost entirely unfamiliar with course contents. The enterprise folded some five years ago, but remains subject to three major lawsuits alleging deceptive trade practices. The complaints allege that those taking the seminars paid up to $35,000 for near-useless information and for promised “mentoring” that rarely was provided.

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

As so many of these mom-and-pop businesses were left unpaid, Trump himself, in one business “restructuring” of major Trump debts, was “limited” to a strict, personal monthly living allowance of $450,000 — as much in a single month as some of his bankruptcy creditors might make in 10 years.

I've been on this site for a little over three years and I've never seen a campfire much less one burning for 24 hours. What's your point? -tnscouter

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

http://spectator.org/
Trump, who inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father, failed with Trump Steaks, failed with Trump Vodka, failed with the United States Football League, failed with Trump Air, failed with Trump Mortgage company, failed with his major companies’ four infamous bankruptcies, and failed spectacularly with a real-estate seminar series grandiosely called Trump University, even though it awarded no accredited degrees.

For the latter, he appeared in ads saying the seminars would feature his own personal investment strategies and instructors he hand-picked — but in a court deposition, he admitted he couldn’t identify any of the teachers and was almost entirely unfamiliar with course contents. The enterprise folded some five years ago, but remains subject to three major lawsuits alleging deceptive trade practices. The complaints allege that those taking the seminars paid up to $35,000 for near-useless information and for promised “mentoring” that rarely was provided.

As for the bankruptcies, Trump dismissed them during a debate last summer as having hurt only big-money lenders who were “total killers” who merited no sympathy. In truth, though, thousands of small-business vendors, contractors, and workers were left wanting, sometimes with just pennies on the dollar. One bankruptcy alone produced a list of creditors 1,904 pages long, including at least 30 with addresses in South Carolina.

As so many of these mom-and-pop businesses were left unpaid, Trump himself, in one business “restructuring” of major Trump debts, was “limited” to a strict, personal monthly living allowance of $450,000 — as much in a single month as some of his bankruptcy creditors might make in 10 years.

Bow twanger if you are going to state facts at least be truthful , stop being like your messiah .

Trump took over his Dads business worth 50 million , how much was cash or real estate? I bet most was Real estate.

The USFL failed because all the teams within the conference failed at making money, it is a investment gamble except when it comes to the NFL.

All The Casinos by many different operators failed in Atlantic City. It is the economy stupid.

Trump personally guaranteed his bankruptcies and he restructured them. He didn't hop on a plane and leave everyone in the dust.

He is a businessman, most businesses area a gamble. If you had any common sense you would know that.

I'm a Cruz guy for now, but Trump is hated by the enemy which includes rino and establishment repugnicans, the leftists, the Muzz horde and Messcans. I wouldn't be to awfully upset if he won the big game.

Originally Posted by OrangeOkie

Tuesday is voting day in Oklahoma. I am still undecided. I am considering only two candidates . . . Cruz and Trump. The number one quality for Cruz is he claims he will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I took that same oath decades ago, so it is really important to me. On the other hand, Trump is a proven business man who has the demonstrated knowledge and leadership to turn around our failing economy and put us on the road to solving our debt problem. Both claim they will build a wall and get all the illegals out of our country. Not sure who I am going to vote for. A Trump/Cruz ticket would be a dream team for me. Let Trump fix the economy and build the wall, while Cruz seasons and prepares to take over in eight years.

So...You're saying you voted for the liberal.

Remember that.

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by watch4bear

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

And lost as much as he's won.

When you consider that 1 side wins and 1 loses, the Cruzer has been as effective as a monkey with a crayon.

Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing in his entire career, except promote himself.

Typical establishment loser.

Now, the Cruzer acts as if he was just watchin this stuff happen in congress, steada bein the person that coulda made a change.

Except he did nothing of any effect.

DT has had successes and failures. But he was *and is* the man in the arena.

And he has actually made a difference, all by himself.

No "congress" to blame, no O'Buckwheat, who the Cruzer *never* stopped, on any issue.

Vote for somebody who's actually accomplished something in life, or vote for the Cruzer.

Served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008, making him the first Hispanic Solicitor General in Texas, the youngest Solicitor General in the entire country and the longest tenure in Texas history
Partner at the law firm Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, where he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national appellate litigation practice
Authored over 80 SCOTUS briefs and presented over 40 oral arguments before The Court
In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of 31 states in defense of the principle that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. And won.
Presented oral arguments before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
Defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds. And won.
Defended the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. And won.
Defended the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States

As a junior Senator and spending his first two years as a member of the minority party, Cruz helped stop a ton of of the Obama agenda.

There is no denying Cruz's accomplishments. He's a brilliant lawyer. But being a great lawyer does not make you a great businessman; nor does it make you a great CEO,administrator,nor an effective leader.

The two tasks are different disciplines,which is why great CEO's and businessmen hire great lawyers to advise them,and frequently make "business decisions" contrary to that same advise.

By this I'm not suggesting that Cruz would not be a great president;and a great leader. But he is not a businessman in the sense that Trump is. Arguing a case before the Supreme Court does not equal building a real estate empire.They are mutually exclusive endeavors.

Calvin is right. Doing what Trump has done in a volatile real estate market is no small accomplishment, (I don't care how much his father left him)and subject to peaks and valleys, economic ups and downs,failures and successes. No one gets it right 100% of the time.

Only people who have no experience and appreciation for the risks in the private sector would suggest that Trump is a failure.Go to a bank sometime and try to borrow $50-$100 mill for a development.You won't get past the branch manager.Which is why reading some of the stuff on here about Trump's failed enterprises, is so amusing.

All those who have done it raise their hands and weigh in.

Originally Posted by EdM

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

Having worked in key leadership positions in major O&G this is spot on. Bringing on and empowering the right folks is key and a good leader/businessman knows how to do this. He knows this stuff.

I agree with this 100%. Here is a slightly different take, with the same conclusion. Years ago our business school interviewed Paul Bryant just before he retired. He revealed many things that led to his success as a leader. The final question and answer has stuck with me.

"Why were you so successful?"

"I surrounded myself with people who were much smarter than me and had the confidence to let them do their jobs". - Paul Bryant

Originally Posted by BobinNH

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by watch4bear

Cruz has argued on the side of conservatives 9 times before the supreme court. More times than any acting member of congress.

And lost as much as he's won.

When you consider that 1 side wins and 1 loses, the Cruzer has been as effective as a monkey with a crayon.

Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing in his entire career, except promote himself.

Typical establishment loser.

Now, the Cruzer acts as if he was just watchin this stuff happen in congress, steada bein the person that coulda made a change.

Except he did nothing of any effect.

DT has had successes and failures. But he was *and is* the man in the arena.

And he has actually made a difference, all by himself.

No "congress" to blame, no O'Buckwheat, who the Cruzer *never* stopped, on any issue.

Vote for somebody who's actually accomplished something in life, or vote for the Cruzer.

Served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008, making him the first Hispanic Solicitor General in Texas, the youngest Solicitor General in the entire country and the longest tenure in Texas history
Partner at the law firm Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, where he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national appellate litigation practice
Authored over 80 SCOTUS briefs and presented over 40 oral arguments before The Court
In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of 31 states in defense of the principle that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. And won.
Presented oral arguments before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
Defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds. And won.
Defended the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. And won.
Defended the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States

As a junior Senator and spending his first two years as a member of the minority party, Cruz helped stop a ton of of the Obama agenda.

There is no denying Cruz's accomplishments. He's a brilliant lawyer. But being a great lawyer does not make you a great businessman; nor does it make you a great CEO,administrator,nor an effective leader.

The two tasks are different disciplines,which is why great CEO's and businessmen hire great lawyers to advise them,and frequently make "business decisions" contrary to that same advise.

By this I'm not suggesting that Cruz would not be a great president;and a great leader. But he is not a businessman in the sense that Trump is. Arguing a case before the Supreme Court does not equal building a real estate empire.They are mutually exclusive endeavors.

Calvin is right. Doing what Trump has done in a volatile real estate market is no small accomplishment, (I don't care how much his father left him)and subject to peaks and valleys, economic ups and downs,failures and successes. No one gets it right 100% of the time.

Only people who have no experience and appreciation for the risks in the private sector would suggest that Trump is a failure.Go to a bank sometime and try to borrow $50-$100 mill for a development.You won't get past the branch manager.Which is why reading some of the stuff on here about Trump's failed enterprises, is so amusing.

All those who have done it raise their hands and weigh in.

He's not a failure, but he is the most liberal candidate. If these guys want that...fine, but they have to own that realty.

Pat he seems kind of helter skelter at times doesn't he?

Talked to a buddy of mine in LI,NY yesterday. He's a UPS driver. I asked him what's the word on the street in liberal NYC on the presidential race? He laughed and said no one wants Hillary....they love Trump because he's crazy. But in a smart way.

I guess you have to be from NY to understand.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Just in,...

good read:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/02/patrick-j-buchanan/hillary-vs-donald/

Spot on. As usual, Buchanan nails it.

Originally Posted by Calvin

Trump is very accomplished and actually has hired the right people for various leadership positions. Look for him to use that experience to have a great team working with him.

Vote Trump to make America great again.

I hope he could shut out all estlablishment hacks from his inner circle but that might be impossible to do.

This giant pile o'bullCruz deserves a rebuttal, cause we see it repeated so often, in desperation.

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008,

making him the first Hispanic Solicitor General in Texas,

Nice liberal talking point, there.

the youngest Solicitor General in the entire country

What an accomplishment! course, no matter the job, there *has* to be somebldy that was the youngest, doesn't there?

and the longest tenure in Texas history

WOOT! He's the man! Notice there's no mention of anything
he actually *did* while sucking the public teat all those
years.

Partner at the law firm Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, where he led the firm’s U.S. Supreme Court and national appellate litigation practice
Authored over 80 SCOTUS briefs and presented over 40 oral arguments before The Court

Given a put-up job, like O'Buckwheat, while waitin for the
next .gov gig. BullCruz on the briefs. BullCruz on the arguments. The Cruzer himself says it was 9, losin 4. IOW, a coin flip would have had as much impact.

In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of 31 states in defense of the principle that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. And won.

This one is really stupid. He volunteered to write a brief for those states for free (the Cruzer was gettin paid by the TX taxpayer, of course), so they took a free brief. And that's exactly what it was worth. The Supremes never even looked at it, so far as anyone can tell.

He wasn't the lead counsel for Heller. He wasn't the associate counsel. He wasn't the assistant to the associate counsel. He wasn't even third assistant cock sucker to the assistant to the associate counsel.

He just filed a friend of the court brief to advance his *own* creds. Apparently, the Cruzer wasn't much of a friend, cause the supremes didn't even know he was there.

Presented oral arguments before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit

Wow!

Defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds. And won.

Hard case to lose. The law was clear at that point.

Defended the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. And won.

Established law was followed by the court.

Defended the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States

There's a tough one to win!

As a junior Senator and spending his first two years as a member of the minority party, Cruz helped stop a ton of of the Obama agenda.

Didn't stop jack nor [bleep], and joined O'Buckwheat on TPP and other issues.

luv2safari,

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LMAO at that reasoning. There won't be any honeymoon, and the established and entrenched in Congress will have a field day working over a "reality" show star.

Reality will set in immediately, and DT will go batschidt nuts that he can't bully his way around DC.

He will be a white Obama: "I have a phone and a pen." He will go wild with executive orders.

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He is a businessman, most businesses area a gamble. If you had any common sense you would know that.

My brother has a friend who is quite wealthy. Over the years he started seven businesses. Four were very successful and three went bust. My brother asked him what he did differently in the three that didn't make it. The businessman said, "Absolutely nothing."

Trump's facemaking and arogant posturing during the most recent debate were a disgrace, not presidential behavior in the least. But wait he'll change one he's secured the nomination, yea right don't hold your breath. Along with the facemaking and posturing, he can lose the hand gesturing too. Anyone as used to getting his own way as Trump is not presidential material in the least.