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Posted By: 1minute Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Over the last dozen years or so I've noticed another phenomena assoicated with climate change. Finished unloading and stacking a load of firewood this morning, and the rounds are getting significantly heavier. Must be an increase in wood density.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Originally Posted by 1minute
Must be an increase in wood density.


Sounds good to me, I'd run with it.
Posted By: benchman Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
I always,thought denser wood was a result of colder climate. Slower growing. The big mouths say it's getting warmer. Change is safe, I guess. I still think they're idiots.
Posted By: Gus Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
yeah, either that, or just accept that change happens?

in my neighborhood, the trees continue to grow, then when a storm comes, some of them tend to fall across the highway, and sometimes cause no harm, and other times kill some of the locals. cars cannot defend against falling trees from a wind storm, i have come to discover.

if humans can change (can they?), then why not allow for climate change? if change happens who's fault is it, the local muslim fundamentalist asks in good faith.
The only impact of real of "climate change" is where your tax money is being wasted.
Posted By: Gus Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The only impact of real of "climate change" is where your tax money is being wasted.


wasting money is what we do best. it's been going as a long traditional process.

thankfully they're printing enough money that some of it can be wasted, and the process can continue right on.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Of course the wood density issue has nothing to do with the fact that my 70th birthday is fast approaching.

Lots hills are getting steeper and taller, and I've noticed some 35 year old chicks are starting to look pretty sharp as well.

Everywhere I walk, it's UPHILL. And my left knee, the one with two torn meniscusi and the 3/4-range osteoarthritis, hurts like crazy.

Gotta be climate change.

All hail Algore (what an azzwipe)

Blessings,

Steve


Posted By: Brazos Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Al Gore's fault!

Ya beat me to it, Steve.


Originally Posted by 1minute
Of course the wood density issue has nothing to do with the fact that my 70th birthday is fast approaching.



Nor mine, the fact that I'll be 73 years young on June 18th.

grin

Posted By: Gus Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Originally Posted by dogzapper


Originally Posted by 1minute
Of course the wood density issue has nothing to do with the fact that my 70th birthday is fast approaching.



Nor mine, the fact that I'll be 73 years young on June 18th.

grin



it never was about us, it never was, as much as we wanted it to be.

it's all about the Grands, and are we planting enough trees to allow them a shade to sit under, while discussing the issues that confront them.
Wood getting heavier?

That happens when you keep re-celebrating your 39th birthday.
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Climate is always changing. That is called weather. Sometimes it is fires, sometimes it is volcanoes, sometimes it is pollution, and sometimes it the sun which causes changes. This is one division of government we need to shut down and refund all the money they spent.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Originally Posted by 1minute
Over the last dozen years or so I've noticed another phenomena assoicated with climate change. Finished unloading and stacking a load of firewood this morning, and the rounds are getting significantly heavier. Must be an increase in wood density.


Yes...it has absolutely nothing to do with getting older.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/25/16
Originally Posted by benchman
I always,thought denser wood was a result of colder climate. Slower growing. The big mouths say it's getting warmer. Change is safe, I guess. I still think they're idiots.


Huh...guess someone hasn't told our hardwoods about that theory.
Simpler solution on the wood density issue is obvious... Either you are being sold wetter wood or you are cutting wetter wood than you used to...
Posted By: Longbob Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/27/16
Originally Posted by 1minute
Over the last dozen years or so I've noticed another phenomena assoicated with climate change. Finished unloading and stacking a load of firewood this morning, and the rounds are getting significantly heavier. Must be an increase in wood density.


As I get older I am happy to have any wood in my hand.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/27/16
Sitka:

In the firewood line nothing but standing dead western larch touches my saw.

Did cut some green western juniper for posts last fall and that stuff was heavy. Nearly feel over backward though when I picked up the first one this spring. I can not imagine what green firewood might weigh.

Headed out in the AM for hopefully the last load this year.
I used to cut a lot of fire wood for friends and family. The most desireable wood available in our local forests is douglas fir.

One day we found a good sized patch of 14" to 20" trees which had been subjected to a microburst several weeks earlier and snapped the tops out of the trees.

As I intended to let the load season over the next year, I cut and loaded three cord of that water saturated doug fir onto the pickup and trailer. It weighed in at over 4000 lb/cord.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/27/16
Inland Doug Fir is good wood. Locally we seem to transition from Ponderosa pine straight into White/Grand Fir with only a scattering of Doug Fir. Don't find a dead one very often. Local rumor is Grand Fir will actually suck heat out of ones house. Some use it as air conditioning in the summer. Pretty prone to heart rot too, so I never cut the stuff.

I'm about 6 years ahead on wood, but keep at it to build up a reserve in case the back decides to go south.

Have a good one,
Posted By: olblue Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/27/16
Maybe you're just getting older. At 73 everything seems heavier to me these days. --- Mel wink grin
Originally Posted by olblue
Maybe you're just getting older. At 73 everything seems heavier to me these days. --- Mel wink grin


Except when you pee!?!?!

wink
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Simpler solution on the wood density issue is obvious... Either you are being sold wetter wood or you are cutting wetter wood than you used to..


It is neither of those things. Global warming/climate change has made gravity stronger. I notice it most when I am trying to get up off of a low couch, but at other times too. miles
Posted By: Steve Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/28/16
Originally Posted by 1minute


Lots hills are getting steeper and taller, and I've noticed some 35 year old chicks are starting to look pretty sharp as well.


AGW works in mysterious ways...
Posted By: Seafire Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/28/16
Originally Posted by milespatton
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Simpler solution on the wood density issue is obvious... Either you are being sold wetter wood or you are cutting wetter wood than you used to..


It is neither of those things. Global warming/climate change has made gravity stronger. I notice it most when I am trying to get up off of a low couch, but at other times too. miles


Couple of Gulps of that Louisiana Clear Hootch, that shows up at Campfire Gatherings, Anonymously of course, in Arizona and New Mexico....

Couple gulps of that, you'll be right back to ten foot tall and bullet proof...

must be another part of climate change.. so all of it ain't that bad...

and Al Gore isn't that bad if ya ever met him... but when I have, he wasn't talkin about that climate change stuff...
Posted By: olblue Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/28/16
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by olblue
Maybe you're just getting older. At 73 everything seems heavier to me these days. --- Mel wink grin


Except when you pee!?!?!

wink

And then there's that toooo ! 😢
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/28/16
How about using Congress to prosecute deniers of climate change? It seems Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island wants to prosecute all of us who don't believe.


Democrats, ‘Scientists’ Want Deniers of Global Warming Arrested, Punished

Posted on September 19, 2015 by Tad Cronn

In a scenario chillingly reminiscent of the story about Galileo’s punishment for going against the scientific orthodoxy of his day, a Democratic senator and a posse of enraged climate scientists are looking to string up anyone who denies their vision of climate change.

Not literally string them up, just criminalize them, investigate them, fine them, possibly jail them and certainly ruin their careers and lives.

Twenty scientists, mostly from universities, signed a letter to President Obama supporting Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse’s call to use the RICO racketeering laws to shut up anyone who disagrees with the warmistas.

In the letter, the scientists compared global warming “deniers,” that is anyone with common sense, to the evil tobacco industry that allegedly hid information about cancer from the public to sell their product.

The shadowy villains in this scenario are the omni-evil oil companies, environmentalists’ favorite bogeyman.

“If corporations in the fossil fuel industry and their supporters are guilty of the misdeeds that have been documented in books and journal articles, it is imperative that these misdeeds be stopped as soon as possible so that America and the world can get on with the critically important business of finding effective ways to restabilize the Earth’s climate, before even more lasting damage is done,” the self-appointed inquisitors wrote in the letter, which was addressed to President Obama, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, and Office of Science and Technology Policy Director John Holdren.

All three of them are probably drooling at the prospect of persecuting us benighted souls who think the planet can take care of itself and global warming is a fraud.

Even supposing for one moment that there was something to the whole global warming thing, that the Earth’s climate never varied according to natural forces like solar cycles, volcanic activity, cyclical ocean current shifts, etc., didn’t I read something in the Constitution about the government not being able to restrict free speech?

I’m sure the proponents of using RICO to enforce leftist dogma would counter that this tactic would only ever be used against big, bad companies that are trying to wring out profits from the gullible.

But we all know that’s a bunch of bull hockey. This is an intimidation tactic. If it were to actually be deployed, it would be to say to the world, “Look what we can do to the big companies that don’t get in line, now what are you little people going to do?”

It would really have nothing to do with saving the planet because the planet doesn’t need saving. It’s all about pushing a Marxist Progressive agenda of increasing control over the populace of the United States.

Progressivism, which goes back to President Woodrow Wilson, has only ever successfully moved forward when there has been a sense of dire emergency fixed in voters’ minds. In Wilson’s case, the excuse was World War I, and his Administration planted the seeds of fascism in American soil, providing a model of a regimented and planned society that fanatical leftists looked to around the world. You may recognize some of the guys who cited Wilson as a role model — guys with names like Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, etc.

Yes, it can happen here because it did already. It’s just been whitewashed out of history books that Wilson was a raging dictator, who was very into things like speech codes and punishing dissidents.

Ever since then, whenever an Administration, on the Left or the Right, wants to advance a Progressive agenda and doesn’t have a war, it’s time to manufacture a crisis, like health care or a gas attack in Syria or a flood of illegal immigrants or …

Now we have an Administration that aspires to the Wilson model but hasn’t got half the brain power, and it’s embarked on a project to create an existential terror, a threat to the very planet itself.

Granted, the global warming scam didn’t start with the Obama Administration, it’s been a project for decades. But Obama wants to be the one who can finally eliminate the opposition and bring the long-awaited scheme to fruition by shackling the common folk and swelling the bank accounts of the rich who are lurking in the wings for their chance to gamble in “carbon credits” and “alternative” power.

There are a lot of problems with the anthropogenic theory of global warming, obvious problems, but we live in an age where the average person seems to be crippled in his capacity for logical reasoning. And just to add insult to injury, people who are most lacking in that faculty have been trained to ape their masters and label political opponents as being “anti-science,” a cry which then gets picked up and repeated in the equally irrational media.

The warmistas have nothing to support their pseudo-scientific cause, and they know it. So now it comes to the phase of persecuting dissidents through the authority of government, rights be damned.

And real science takes the hit.

Using RICO to force the global warming agenda is the last refuge for scoundrels hoping to find their place at the public trough.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/democrats-scientists-want-deniers-of-global-warming-arrested-punished/
Posted By: rost495 Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/28/16
Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
Wood getting heavier?

That happens when you keep re-celebrating your 39th birthday.


I was just bitchin a month or so ago. I just could not roll the cut pieces of oak around to the splitter like I used to a year or two ago. Energy just not quite there.

So Carolyn started splitting the rounds with sledge and wedges and I could move halves and quarters much easier.

Aggravating to realize as young as we are, its all starting to head south already....
The wife bought me a new 27 ton splitter last fall.
I parked my axe, wedges, and hammer for good.

Now I sit and warm my hands by the exhaust manifold while the wife and kids split the wood.
My back hasn't felt this good in years.

Al Galore is my hero!

smile

Posted By: Bigfoot Re: Impacts of climate change - 05/28/16
Not me I'm still a stud. This week I cut and split a tree that blew over last winter and I muscled that stuff around like it was nothing. That cedar will make great firestarter, it still counts as a tree though.



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