Millions of $$$$$ raised by woman creator of North Face and given to Hillary.

No North Face for me.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-susie-buell-hillary-clinton-20160603-snap-story.html

L.W.

Had never heard of North Face. Went to their site. Lots of medium high expensive "adventure gear". Definitely nothing there for the hunter.

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I've got one of their mid weight sleeping bags. Bought it for $5.00 at a yard sale. I like it a lot. They've been putting out gear for a long time. Way back in the mid eighties when I was in boy scouts at least. I've never bought their stuff retail and I guess I never will.

I bet there are plenty here that turn their heads to politics over comfort, if they paid attention, no one would be wearing Patagonia stuff either...

Guess I'll stick to UnderArmor.

I never had a desire to buy overpriced TNF garbage.

If you've never heard of North Face, you must not do anything outdoors related, or you are extremely young. North Face at one time had a large portion of the market share for outdoor gear in the US as well as world wide. They have far more competition now, but they were hard to beat for mountaineering/back country gear in the 80s and 90s.

I slept in more than one North Face tent on plenty of hunting trips, and have seen many more in the field, so I wouldn't be quite so dismissive of their hunting appeal. At least now we have a lot of alternatives.

I am 81 years of age and have spent probably (maybe) more nights in tents than you are years old. That make sense? Anyway, I have never had the desire to purchase any of their way overpriced gear. Name on equipment means nothing at all to me.

You've spent a lot of years in tents then. Makes no difference to me if you want TNF gear or not. I currently have none and have no plans of buying any. I have however spent many a night in a VE24/VE25 in gale force winds on top of some pretty steep [bleep] and also endured many feet of snow in the same tents. You'd have been hard pressed to find a better tent in the 80s. I can guarantee some of the stuff I've put one through it was not over priced. I've seen more expensive tents ripped to shreds in the same conditions.

Which brand of mountaineering tents were you using all those years of tenting that were better? Not saying there weren't any, but I doubt they were any less expensive in the 70s and 80s for a true mountaineering tent.

If anyone reading this thread feels bad about owning a VE25, you can always send it my way. I won't buy one, but I sure as heck wouldn't turn one down.

I haven't bought any TNF stuff in years.

Doesn't surprise me though. All of those yuppie companies are run by liberals.

I haven't been a fan of TNF since they went urban in the early 2000s.

But for the record, with a minimal amount of research in addition to the OP article, in chronological order:

- 1966 Doug and Susie Thompkins start TNF
- 1968 They sell TNF for $50k
- They make a fortune off Espirit (popular 70s/80s/90s women's clothing)
- They divorce
- Susie meets Hillary and subsequently gives her millions of dollars

There may be many other reasons to dislike TNF, but this one seems somewhat tenuous. And the LA Times article is pretty much crap - just a puff piece.

north face gear is as well known as it gets.

I buy mine on clearance.

I've fished all season in my North Face puffy. No complaints.

Most hunting season nights were spent in canvas will tents that would leak wherever you touched on the inside while the outside was wet. Most backpacking nights were spent in just whatever low priced tent I had. Brand name didn't mean much just as long as I could stay dry. The old heavy army surplus "pup tents" could be had back then for less then ten dollars. Probably closer to five. They were very popular with the crew I hung out with.

Then several companies started making ripstop light weight nylon tents! Wow! They weighed nothing compared to the old pup tents so that quickly became everybody's first choice. And they were not expensive. So, just whatever somebody had was what we used. And most of my camping/backpacking was in the high country of Colorado so the main thing was to be able to stay a little warmer than outside and hope to stay dry in case some moisture was falling.

My intention was not to belittle you or your equipment. Sometimes expressing my self on this thing just doesn't come out right.

And what we had back then surely wasn't "any better" but we went with what we had.

Good to know. Always try to put my money behind companys that support my interests.

Never buy anything at REI that you could also buy at Cabelas.

WHAT!! an article quoted on the 24 HR Campfire was wrong, dumb or completely mis-directed? I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you!


Put me down for one who has a couple of the cold weather Northface Polar Guard bags and swears by them. (Bigfoot and something else, can't remember) .

Haven't bought anything from them in a while, but will echo previous comments about VE-24/25 as state of the art tent for high winds/heavy snow, back in the day.

People used to buy that gear to survive, not to look good.

Carry on!

Sycamore

He gone ..

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/b...nder-dies-in-kayaking-accident.html?_r=0

North Face is still a pack of Green slime. Patagonia too. Any company belonging to the Outdoor Industry Association is on my blacklist.

Don't forget that Keen boots is helping the wilderniks with their Owyhee lockup campaign.

Politics aside, Northface makes excellent stuff. If one is in their mountaineering grade stuff and having issues, he is in some truly awesome weather. I have two of their mountaineering tents and they've held up when the wind was pelting us with rocks.

If I refused to interact with everyone I've disagreed with, there'd be few folks around for me to talk with. Agree to disagree and get on with life.

Her former husband formed Northface, they divorced in 1989 and she has had no connection with the company for nearly 30 years.

Northface makes quality hiking and backpacking clothing and gear that can be quite useful for hunting as well. Going to take a lot more than that to prevent me from buying their products.

VE25=the capability to shelter up in extreme conditions. Canvas wall tent= capability to camp in comfort in mild conditions

[quote=1minute]Politics aside, Northface makes excellent stuff. If one is in their mountaineering grade stuff and having issues, he is in some truly awesome weather. I have two of their mountaineering tents and they've held up when the wind was pelting us with rocks.

If I refused to interact with everyone I've disagreed with, there'd be few folks around for me to talk with. Agree to disagree and get on with life. [/quote
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Dave just told what your moneyspent with the anti's is going towards --anti-hunting -- were does your money come from ?

Oh yeah I remember -you didn't answer that a while back.

I haven't bought any North Faced gear in twenty-five years. Forty years ago they were a real good company. About thirty years ago the company changed hands and it hasn't been the same since. In the late eighty's they severely downgraded their warranty response. I had a couple of bad experiences and a friend also had a bad experience. So, like I said, I haven't bought any of their products since then. They are a crappy company regardless of their politics.

KC

These type threads are always so confusing.


Is TNF (the company) pro-hiLIARy or not?

As long as you're paying federal income taxes, then you're funding stuff that you don't agree with...and to a much greater degree than simply buying a product from a company who's politics you don't agree with.