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Lets get it started...

Anybody else feel like the election is hanging in the balance tomorrow night.

They're already trying to rig it for Hillary. Giving her a bigger podium so she doesn't look so helpless next to Trump, no kidding, somebody agreed to this...


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I read on Drudge that the debate commission agreed to the step stool. I don't think the Trump team would care - furthermore, its a further distance to the ground if she passes out.
I see where Trump is discussing Border security with Bibi. He'll probably have some coherent surprises should Hillary bring up his border wall..
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
I read on Drudge that the debate commission agreed to the step stool. I don't think the Trump team would care - furthermore, its a further distance to the ground if she passes out.


Hopefully enough difference to make it fatal.
Yeah that Yorkshire doesn't need a state funeral.
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
Lets get it started...

Anybody else feel like the election is hanging in the balance tomorrow night.

They're already trying to rig it for Hillary. Giving her a bigger podium so she doesn't look so helpless next to Trump, no kidding, somebody agreed to this...


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My understanding is that the smaller podium is for Hildog so she won't look so short because her request for a step stool was rejected...

Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
Lets get it started...

Anybody else feel like the election is hanging in the balance tomorrow night.

They're already trying to rig it for Hillary. Giving her a bigger podium so she doesn't look so helpless next to Trump, no kidding, somebody agreed to this...


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Has something changed?

I read in the last few days that she wanted the step but got the shorter podium. She's something like 5'4" and Trump is 6'2".

He should mention that hiLIARy is at the children's table!

Trump people will say Trump wins the debate.

Hillary people AND THE MEDIA will say she wins.

Polls won't change.

The swing states will screw us........ again.
Still hoping for a Seizure!
Da Trumpster absolutely needs to make mention of any format accommodations given to his opponent in his opening remarks.
My fantasy

Trump gracious, charming, intelligent--just like when he is courting a business deal.

Hillary boring, cold, stiff.

BMT
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
Still hoping for a Seizure!


Too soon, could still get Bernie in and screw up swing states.

Need her to look bad for a while, call people deplorable, and generally screw it up.
Hillary will start the debate high as a kite - she'll be pumped full of a little bit of everything in the hope of saving her from passing out. Watch for her to be real giddy at the start, as if she just drank a pot of coffee.
Originally Posted by BMT
My fantasy

Trump gracious, charming, intelligent--just like when he is courting a business deal.

Hillary boring, cold, stiff.

BMT

and harsh and shrill....if only obviously.
I had my say about it back in February.

Originally Posted by Bristoe
In other news, Hillary hasn't been able to get her fat ass off the pot since the South Carolina results came in.

Political pundits suggest that she'll have to bring a slop jar with her to the debates against Trump.

She'll turn loose with a prolonged fart when he mentions Benghazi, they say...and when he asks about the e-mails,..she'll drop a dense turd 3 feet long right there behind the podium.

From that point on, she'll respond to every comment with a bug eyed grunt as she squats upon the portable, glazed throne.

The headlines next day will read, "HILLARY HAS CHIT!,...details at 11.
This is pure powder for Trump.


"Everything about Hillary is built on deception, even her new custom podium."
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by BMT
My fantasy

Trump gracious, charming, intelligent--just like when he is courting a business deal.

Hillary boring, cold, stiff.

BMT

and harsh and shrill....if only obviously.




You remember those clips of the Seahawk fans the minute the Patriots intercepted the ball on the goal-line a few years back? That will be liberal democrats if Hillary hits the floor. smile

I guess we don't need to worry about Killary lying.

Before debate, Clinton works refs, asks for special treatment

By BYRON YORK (@BYRONYORK) • 9/25/16 11:48 PM

For several days, Democrats and their supporters in the press have demanded that presidential debate moderator Lester Holt factcheck Donald Trump in Monday night's showdown at Hofstra University. Those demands turned to pleading Sunday when Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, Robby Mook, appearing on ABC's "This Week," asked for special treatment for Clinton in the event that Trump tells lies from the debate stage.

"All that we're asking is that, if Donald Trump lies, that it's pointed out," Mook said. "It's unfair to ask for Hillary both to play traffic cop while with Trump, make sure that his lies are corrected, and also to present her vision for what she wants to do for the American people."

"But isn't that what a debater is supposed to do?" asked host George Stephanopoulos.

"Well, I think Donald Trump's special," Mook said. "We haven't seen anything like this…So we're saying this is a special circumstance, a special debate, and Hillary should be given some time to actually talk about what she wants to do to make a difference in people's lives. She shouldn't have to spend the whole debate correcting the record."

Other Clinton officials made a similar case in the days leading up to the debate. On Friday, Team Clinton held a conference call for reporters, urging Holt to factcheck Trump on the fly. "This is the role of the moderator…to call out those lies, and do it in real time," top campaign official Jennifer Palmieri said. "To not do that is to give Donald Trump a very unfair advantage."

And what kind of lies should Holt factcheck? In its email announcing the conference call, the Clinton campaign provided a handy list of "Trump's Seven Deadly Lies." Number one on the list was the Trump claim that seems to anger Democrats most — that he opposed the war in Iraq.

It would not be a surprise to hear Trump repeat that claim at Hofstra. But a factcheck might not lead to the cathartic, true-false, black-white "You lie!" moment Democrats would like. Sometimes facts yield a murky picture, and that's the story with Trump and Iraq.

In its email, the Clinton campaign included a passage from a Washington Post factcheck of Trump and Iraq, under the heading "Trump: 'I was totally against the war in Iraq.' // Four Pinocchios":

As our timeline shows, Trump was not "totally" against the Iraq War. Trump expressed lukewarm support the first time he was asked about it on Sept. 11, 2002, and was not clearly against it until he was quoted in the August 2004 Esquire cover story. (We even made a video documenting how this is a bogus claim.) Yet he repeatedly claims he opposed the war from the beginning — and thus, earns Four Pinocchios.

That, apparently, is the case the Clinton campaign would like Lester Holt to make against Trump should Trump say at the debate that he opposed the war.

But look at the Post's conclusion. The sum total of evidence that Trump supported the war before the March 20, 2003 invasion is a few seconds of an episode of the Howard Stern show more than six months earlier, on September 11, 2002. "Are you for invading Iraq?" Stern asked. "Yeah, I guess so," Trump answered haltingly. "I wish the first time it was done correctly."

That's it.

The only other public statement Trump made before the war was an appearance with Fox News' Neil Cavuto on January 28, 2003. "If you look at the polls, a lot of people are getting a little tired," Trump said. "I think the Iraqi situation is a problem. And I think the economy is a much bigger problem as far as the president is concerned."

What did that mean? It certainly didn't explicitly support or oppose the war. Put it down as an inconclusive statement. (That and other quotations in this piece are taken from a FactCheck.org article from February of this year.)
From the day of the invasion on, Trump made a series of statements about Iraq, none definitive, and most expressing some sort of misgiving about the conflict.

On the first day of the war, Trump said of Wall Street: 'Even before the fact, they're obviously taking it a little bit for granted that it looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint." Trump did not characterize that in one way or the other.

The next day, Trump called the war "depressing." Two days after that, he called it "a mess."

A few months later, on July 1, 2003, Trump said, "I would love to see New York City and some of the cities and some of the states get some of the money that's going toward Iraq and other places, because you know, they really need and they need it badly."

On September 11, 2003, one year after his "Yeah, I guess so," remark on Howard Stern, Trump said, "It wasn't a mistake to fight terrorism and fight it hard, and I guess maybe if I had to do it, I would have fought terrorism but not necessarily Iraq."

And on and on. By 2004, with the war an increasingly troubled enterprise, Trump became more openly negative.

Whatever all that adds up to, it is not a record of supporting the Iraq war before, during, and after the invasion.

So back to the Washington Post factcheck. The statement that prompted the factcheck was Trump saying he was "totally" against the war, and the Post proved that Trump was not "totally" against the war. He was somewhat against the war, or partially against the war, or mostly against the war, or mildly against the war, or kinda against the war.

So is that the point the Clinton campaign would like Lester Holt to make? If Trump repeats his claim that he was totally against the war, should Holt remind him that he was only somewhat against the war? It's hard to imagine voters would take such a distinction very seriously.

The most far reaching indictment of Trump's stance on the war came from none other than Hillary Clinton, at NBC's "Commander in Chief Forum" on September 7. "My opponent was for the war in Iraq," Clinton said. "He says he wasn't. You can go back and look at the record. He supported it. He told Howard Stern he supported it. So he supported it before it happened, he supported it as it was happening, and he is on record as supporting it after it happened."

That's not really an accurate reflection of events. It's the kind of thing political candidates can say about their opponents. But it's just not the job of a debate moderator.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2602810
Originally Posted by BMT
My fantasy

Trump gracious, charming, intelligent--just like when he is courting a business deal.

Hillary boring, cold, stiff.

BMT


Yeah me too.
Trump tells one truth and Hillary lies. Trump automatically wins.
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
I read on Drudge that the debate commission agreed to the step stool. I don't think the Trump team would care - furthermore, its a further distance to the ground if she passes out.



Would not be the first step stool ever used...
Originally Posted by Max_Velocity
For several days, Democrats and their supporters in the press have demanded that presidential debate moderator Lester Holt factcheck Donald Trump in Monday night's showdown at Hofstra University. Those demands turned to pleading Sunday when Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, Robby Mook, appearing on ABC's "This Week," asked for special treatment for Clinton in the event that Trump tells lies from the debate stage.


The Donald has the Libtards schittin' their pants!

The desperation is very entertaining.
Trump should say;"I've known Hillary Clinton personally for a long time. She has some good qualities, just like all humans. But she has one flaw that should prevent her from ever serving as C I C..... the more power she is given, the more she abuses it".
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
Lets get it started...

Anybody else feel like the election is hanging in the balance tomorrow night.
No, it's the country that's hanging in the balance..

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They're already trying to rig it for Hillary. Giving her a bigger podium so she doesn't look so helpless next to Trump, no kidding, somebody agreed to this...
Well, naturally.


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Don't wanna have her look small, weak and FEMALE......doncha know.
Originally Posted by BMT
My fantasy

Trump gracious, charming, intelligent--just like when he is courting a business deal.

Hillary boring, cold, stiff.

BMT
You forgot - 'dead'...
I wanna know why ANYONE would even waste the time?

Anyone undecided at this point? Have lots of time just to waste instead of getting important things done?

Originally Posted by rost495
I wanna know why ANYONE would even waste the time?

Anyone undecided at this point? Have lots of time just to waste instead of getting important things done?



Like watching a football game or any other contest?
This race is for all the marbles and millions are undecided.
Millions do not think very much of either candidate.
Originally Posted by rost495
I wanna know why ANYONE would even waste the time?

Anyone undecided at this point? Have lots of time just to waste instead of getting important things done?


Everybody's mind is made up.

We tune in for the same reason anyone tunes in to watch a race at Talladega..
I have better things to do than watch two turds in a lying competition. At this point everyone needs to just write in Mickey Mouse. We won't though. Our corrupt government is a reflection of our corrupt electorate.

Y'all take up a collection to send me to Siberia. I'm thinking about a cattle ranch in one of the nicer parts.
Are you giving up hope for a Johnson weld victory?
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
Y'all take up a collection to send me to Siberia. I'm thinking about a cattle ranch in one of the nicer parts.


Typical liberal, asking us for a handout, ship your sorry @ss over there yourself and enjoy the long winters......
That beitch could chop up a baby with a machete at the debates and people would still defend her.

The world has gone completely mad.
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
I have better things to do than watch two turds in a lying competition. At this point everyone needs to just write in Mickey Mouse. We won't though. Our corrupt government is a reflection of our corrupt electorate.

Y'all take up a collection to send me to Siberia. I'm thinking about a cattle ranch in one of the nicer parts.


No we wont if we are smart, because we know that Johnson/Mouse has only a chance at throwing the election, if that...

We'll all vote Trump, since we have no other option. And since we still care to TRY to save this country.

Enjoy Siberia, we are trying to head north too in a few years, but we'll fund our own way without handouts.
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
Originally Posted by rost495
I wanna know why ANYONE would even waste the time?

Anyone undecided at this point? Have lots of time just to waste instead of getting important things done?


Everybody's mind is made up.

We tune in for the same reason anyone tunes in to watch a race at Talladega..


Ah, over my head, won't watch sports or racing either, better things to do.

But point taken, some may be undecided, I figured very few here, I may have been underestimating, if decided I've not a single idea why waste the time when I can be accomplishing much more.
Originally Posted by dassa
Are you giving up hope for a Johnson weld victory?


Nope. We ordered a few hundred Johnson/Weld door hangers to put out. I intend to place them in an urban neighborhood populated by minorities.

Also, some of y'all should invest in a sense of humor.
Originally Posted by rost495

But point taken, some may be undecided, I figured very few here, I may have been underestimating, if decided I've not a single idea why waste the time when I can be accomplishing much more.

Kinda like the moon landing.

There's a small chance Hillary could have an epic meltdown live on National TV. Some of us have been waiting 25+ years for the Clintons to fail. Would be a historic moment, would hate to miss it...
2 hrs, lets get this show on the road...


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Just cracked a cold beer.....
(pre-game)
I just hope Donald can actually string a sentence together instead of his lunactic hysterical sound bites the media loves.

I hope he goes full retard and starts his typical name calling...... wont be a good look
Don't care about the debate-- will not change my mind.
Go Trump!
The format is set up to fck with Trump.

ILLary can blather two minutes about anything, especially since she's been fed the questions in advance.

DT will provide the usual short, to-the-point answer in well under 2 minutes, which will allow the POS moderator to try and screw with DT for the remaining time.

Won't make any difference in the long run.
Three New York surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries
they had performed.

One of them said, 'I'm the best surgeon in the state. In my favorite case,
a concert pianist lost seven fingers in an accident . I re-attached them,
and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England'.

The second surgeon said. 'That's nothing. A young man lost an arm and both
legs in an accident; I re-attached them, and 2 years later he won a gold
medal in track and field events in the Olympics.

The third surgeon said, 'You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a woman was
high on cocaine and marijuana and she rode a horse head-on into a train,
traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the woman's
blonde hair and the horse's ass. I was able to put them together and now
she's running for president of the USA.
40 Minutes..

They're getting Ol' Hillary strapped up with a Pee-Bag about now.

How'd you like that job to put on your resume...


They've put [b][color:#3333FF]trigger warnings[/color][/b] in the lobby, for all the Brittle Snowflakes..
Will there be cankle-cam?
Originally Posted by add
Will there be cankle-cam?


I hope not. I don't want to see up her mao-mao.
Originally Posted by add
Will there be cankle-cam?

Probably not, don't wanna get Bill any hornier than his normal self...
Y'all do know of course that OUR assessment of the debate will have zero effect on the election.

But...... you can't not watch.
I seriously doubt anything will happen, but if Ol Hillary did kick off LIVE, I'd sure hate to miss it...
Need a live feed please.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Need a live feed please.


Not live yet, but it will be...

Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
I seriously doubt anything will happen, but if Ol Hillary did kick off LIVE, I'd sure hate to miss it...


^^^This^^^

Or get to see The Donald really piss her off, and then watch her head spin completely around just like that bitch from the Exorcist Movie
Here we go, link is live now.

Here's another one..

Be vewwy vewwy quiet...
And.... they're off!
It's ON Now!
She's got some good drugs in her veins
And Socialism!!!
Wow dude gives her the answer with made up "facts"
My eyes deceived me. I thought Trump patted her on the azz.
Memaw's pupils look like pinpoints. She is high as a kite.
First lie of the night, Lester Holt on how good the economy has been the last 6 1\2 years.
Donald, It's good to be with you......First lie!
She is writing down falling taxes she'll nail him on that cuz wealthy like him need to pay their fair share
Is it my imagination or does Hillary look like she's bobbleheading and blinking like she's gonna faceplant??
Originally Posted by broomd
Is it my imagination or does HIlary look like she's bobbleheading and blinking like she's gonna faceplant??


She is high high higher than a kite.
Does Trump have a cold? He is sniffling.
Why is Hitlerys face more magnified than Trumps when they are seen together? Is she closer to the camera? Whats the slirping sound being made when Trump inhales after a sentence?
"I want you to be very happy" he said to her!!
He's going to hamer "secretary Clinton" on her record as sec of state in a bit!!
Originally Posted by poboy
First lie of the night, Lester Holt on how good the economy has been the last 6 1\2 years.


Yep. You are EXACTLY right, Mike! I caught that right away, too, buddy!

If you don't think that the Questions are designed to give Hillary an edge, you got to be a fricken vegatable. What a Fuggin sham as an excuse for a fair "moderator".
We're fuqued.
He's hammering her on the rustbelt. And her record.
Trump just zinged her with that 30 year jab! Good counterpunch!
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Trump just zinged her with that 30 year jab! Good counterpunch!


Made the audience chuckle. laugh
I think he is [bleep] her up on trade.
"The Gold Standard." Hahaha! I think he is starting to hammer her pretty good. The gloves are coming off.
Trump is going after the bitch now! She's doing her best to blame all her record on anything on anybody but her self.
Trump's winning....by hammering the old bitch.
Bigly! Hahahaha!
This country is divided into two groups of people. Thinkers and others. They're winning.
He is [bleep] her up. He has her stammering.
Just watched the 1st 18 minutes and my Disgust Meter pegged out...
Trump is controlling the debate and moderator.
Trump is coming out very strong, uber performance so far....


Fingers crossed.



Listening from another room, she's starting to get shrill...

Just as the Moderator steps in...
Trump is clubbing her like a seal. So far so good! laugh
Yep

Originally Posted by ingwe
Just watched the 1st 18 minutes and my Disgust Meter pegged out...


And yep

Originally Posted by Longbob
Trump is controlling the debate and moderator.
Why couldnt he ask her why she hasnt told O how to defeat isis?
I am surprised at how strong Trump's personality is overwhelming everything. The MSM will be apoplectic tomorrow!
Hitlery gettin roasted lovin' it
Originally Posted by SamOlson
Trump is coming out very strong, uber performance so far....


Fingers crossed.





Agreed Sam! Just hope he goes after that Bitch on her Bengazi disaster, and the lives she cost Americans that she hung out to dry mad
Originally Posted by RJY66
Trump is clubbing her like a seal. So far so good! laugh

Hahahaha. That's a great one.
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
Listening from another room, she's starting to get shrill...

Just as the Moderator steps in...


Again and again and again in favor of the illdog
She is getting flustered. She actually has far less substance than Trump.
Gov needs to spend more broadly on more people in greater amounts
Originally Posted by JoeBob
She is getting flustered. She actually has far less substance than Trump.


#totes
Unless he suffers a massive fuuck-up later on Trump owns this thing.
Trump - dynamic, forceful, in charge, presidential.

Hillary's just standing there.
The moderator is clearly on her side.
Why the heck didn't he just bring up her overpriced speeches
Hilary's eyes are twitching like a retard! Trumps really starting to get under her skin now!
Sweet the emails yes!!!
i watched 2 mins of it, then had to turn it off before i put a 45 cal hydroshock through my Samsung
BIG KO punch on the Email scandal. Crowd was going crazy!
Paying no federal income taxes "That makes me smart." laugh
deflect from emails!!!!!
That makes him smart indeed!!
He's being needlessly defensive.
Look at her expression she's pissed
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
He's being needlessly defensive.


I don't see that at all. He is counterpunching pretty effectively.
You guys need to understand that her cool demeanor appeals to a certain group. A cool head gets 30% of the vote just because she is...
Yeah he's bringing it home why we need a multi millionaire businessman as Pres!!!!!
He needs to stop talking about about money and go after her e-mail. Hammer on it.
Steam coming out of the witches ears! Heads about to explode!
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
He's being needlessly defensive.


Yep I see that too
Originally Posted by Steve
He needs to stop talking about about money and go after her e-mail. Hammer on it.


YES YES YES!!!!
We're gonna like what he's saying.

I guarantee over on DU, they're saying [bleep] is owning Trump.

It all boils down to what Independents and Undecideds think of this circus..
Hilliary is just making up Shiitt about Trump now! He's got her on the ropes!
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Steve
He needs to stop talking about about money and go after her e-mail. Hammer on it.


YES YES YES!!!!


Yup way too much me and I. If this continues it's advantage H!
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
He's being needlessly defensive.


Yep I see that too
He's allowing her to lead him by the nose. Very bad.
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
We're gonna like what he's saying.

I guarantee over on DU, they're saying [bleep] is owning Trump.

It all boils down to what Independents and Undecideds think of this circus..


Oh I'm sure! The Demotards would still vote for her if she admitted on stage tonight that she worshipped Satan!
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
We're gonna like what he's saying.

I guarantee over on DU, they're saying [bleep] is owning Trump.

It all boils down to what Independents and Undecideds think of this circus..


Oh I'm sure! The Demotards would still vote for her if she admitted on stage tonight that she worshipped Satan!

She is Satan
I believe the damage is already done. He lost it early and she never had it.

Hopefully, this will now be a wash!
Uh oh, race time.
There ya go Donald talk Econ and common sense waste and ineptitude
She's hacking up a baby with a machete and the crowd is eating it up! Wooooohoooooooo!
She's on guns now
This is a bloodbath, but not like you guys see it. Her demeanor is everything.
There are so many good pro gun arguments. I hope he can at least come up with one of them. Just discuss the difference in violent crime between heavy gun control places versus pro-gun places.
DT is thinking, "WTF am I doing here with this beitch? I should be somewhere else making money.".
Originally Posted by Fireball2
This is a bloodbath, but not like you guys see it. Her demeanor is everything.



I'm at work and can't watch. Who's doin' the bleedin'?
Originally Posted by Fireball2
This is a bloodbath, but not like you guys see it. Her demeanor is everything.


Rare that we agree, but yes. She's winning.

Aw [bleep], moderator is 'fact-checking'
Good Lord...now he's arguing with Lester!!!!!! And Les is letting him dig his own hole.

Dude!!
"Crime stats are racist" is what the mod basically said about stop and frisk
Law and order isn't the response to a gun control argument.
Is she blinking out something in mor4is Code?

He stumped his toe bigly on the stop and frisk unconstitutional thing. Still time to recover.
Originally Posted by ratsmacker
Originally Posted by Fireball2
This is a bloodbath, but not like you guys see it. Her demeanor is everything.



I'm at work and can't watch. Who's doin' the bleedin'?


The COUNTRY..... frown
This is carnage.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Law and order isn't the response to a gun control argument.


+1

This is obviously not in his wheelhouse
Originally Posted by Fireball2
This is carnage.
I'm about to turn it off.
Yeah. Carnage. He needs to work on debating, and short one-liners sticking to the point. repeating a catchphrase 8x in 2 mins isn't helping
I'm going out of my mind listening to her.
This might or might not be a scientific poll...


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Oh my God. No fly, no buy. He said he agrees. That's it.
Oh no.
Where's Isaac at?
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Oh my God. No fly, no buy. He said he agrees. That's it.



I'm about to shoot my [bleep] TV
Bad move on engaging the stop and frisk issue; opened a BIG can of worms
Put your name on a list, no guns for you. Due process, 4th amendment. What ever...

On that they both agree.
He needs a shock collar!!!!

The bad part is she knows she's got him right where she wants him!
Originally Posted by Steve
Put your name on a list, no guns for you. Due process, 4th amendment. What ever...

On that they both agree.
Yep. Very bad.
OMG we're soooo screwed.

If you understand what she's saying in between the lines you hear "communism, loss of rights, govt intrusion, govt. mandates, higher taxes, lower incentives, etc"
She's a hammer and he's a nail.
Birtherism. gonna get ugly now
This is a nightmare.
But he also said that he would put in a process for getting off of it which is not there now.
Donald needs to walk over and bitch slap Lester! I'd pay to see that!
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Steve
Put your name on a list, no guns for you. Due process, 4th amendment. What ever...

On that they both agree.
Yep. Very bad.


BIG TIME!!!!!!
Screw you guys.! Me and RobJordan tried to tell about this.... laugh


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Better buy all the high cap mags and ammo you think you might need the rest of your life.
stutter stutter stutter we're [bleep]
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This is a nightmare.


I agree. I am going to drink now.
Lester does her job for her
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This is a nightmare.


It's not like you Trump guys weren't warned.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Better buy all the high cap mags and ammo you think you might need the rest of your life.


Cabelas is sold out of 22 ammo.
Originally Posted by FlaRick
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This is a nightmare.


It's not like you Trump guys weren't warned.
I never said he was a debater. I said he'd be a less bad choice than all the rest. You think Bush would be doing any better?
Originally Posted by MissouriEd
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Better buy all the high cap mags and ammo you think you might need the rest of your life.


Cabelas is sold out of 22 ammo.


F [bleep] K
Watching the debate on NBC and for some reason Hillary's split screen side looks like it has sharper contrast and is better lit than Trump's side. It's slight but still enough to draw attention to her side of the screen.

The blue color in the background appears to be a little 'bluer' on Hillary's side than it is on Trump's side too.
The Bible warns that evil prevails in the end times. This is proof.
Originally Posted by FlaRick
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This is a nightmare.


It's not like you Trump guys weren't warned.


I'm sure Cruz would be doing a lot better
350 Million people in this country and it comes down to these two?

We are truly f u c k e d.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by FlaRick
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This is a nightmare.


It's not like you Trump guys weren't warned.
I never said he was a debater. I said he'd be a less bad choice than all the rest. You think Bush would be doing any better?


No, but the guy I voted for in the Florida primary would have.
Trump will be fine.
Originally Posted by FlaRick
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by FlaRick
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This is a nightmare.


It's not like you Trump guys weren't warned.
I never said he was a debater. I said he'd be a less bad choice than all the rest. You think Bush would be doing any better?


No, but the guy I voted for in the Florida primary would have.
Rubio?
Originally Posted by Calvin
Trump will be fine.


Among voters like us yes. The independents decide in the debates.
I think trump doing fine but I'm voting for him regardless..
Originally Posted by Fireball2
The Bible warns that evil prevails in the end times. This is proof.


She's even more evil than Obama. We are FUGGED if she wins this election!
Perfect opportunity for him to bury her on Server-Gate here!
Answer the question, Trunmp! short, sweet, then hammer the c*nt on her record like email hacking
ok there we go!
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by FlaRick
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This is a nightmare.


It's not like you Trump guys weren't warned.


I'm sure Cruz would be doing a lot better


You can't be dumb enough to think he wouldn't be.
Originally Posted by 79S
I think trump doing fine but I'm voting for him regardless..
The vast majority of us here at the Fire will be too. We're the hard core Never Clinton folks, though. Can't win with just the never Clinton vote.
Goin like it would most always go, when ILLary was fed the questions in advance, and the moderator interrupts her to point out that she missed a statement she was supposed to make.

DT was swimmin uphill from the getgo.

Trump's bein Trump, nothin wrong with that.
Ok. Maybe he is turning it back his way with the rigged system narrative.
He should just say " you can't trust her" with anything, your security, your future, or to tell the truth about anything.

She really is a turd.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Perfect opportunity for him to bury her on Server-Gate here!


If he can't win this segment, ....
If looks could kill, The Donald woulb be dead!
How in the world did he just leave her alone on ignoring gov protocol and leaving is open to the foreign intel gathering like she did
Govt intrusion, loss of freedom, higher taxes, loss of freedom, socialism, free education, etc etc etc
Did she just say Bagdaddy? Must have been thinking about slick willie.
Originally Posted by joken2
Watching the debate on NBC and for some reason Hillary's split screen side looks like it has sharper contrast and is better lit than Trump's side. It's slight but still enough to draw attention to her side of the screen.


Well, maybe it has something to with the fact she's wearing a flaming RED dress and he's wearing a black suit. Also his orange make-up is showing up about the same color as Lester.

John
Originally Posted by ltppowell
350 Million people in this country and it comes down to these two?

We are truly f u c k e d.


EXACTLEY!!!!
Either way we're done.But I do believe Donald is tanking
Hammer her for being complicit in the rise of ISIS
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Govt intrusion, loss of freedom, higher taxes, loss of freedom, socialism, free education, etc etc etc
Venezuela, here we come.
Shes talking about electronic spying? That's twice he had a layup and passed.

He needs to prepare!
Have you noticed how she gets to answer all the questions first? Then Donald has to play defense.
Originally Posted by bigfish9684
Hammer her for being complicit in the rise of ISIS


How about Bengahzi???
Betting he pulls out of all the remaining debates and blames it on the media unfairness.

Oh boy she's lying big time the whole Iraq story she gave was a lie
uh oh. we're on islam now
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Have you noticed how she gets to answer all the questions first? Then Donald has to play defense.
The questions for Trump are specific attacks on him. The questions for Clinton are general policy questions.
I think she is having a seizure. Wonder how they will hide her when she does down?

Hit that BITCH with Bengazi !!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by byc
Betting he pulls out of all the remaining debates and blames it on the media unfairness.



He better if he expects to win. She's making him look like a retard.
Carnage. Thanks Donald. He's right, but presentation, presentation, presentation.
He had a softball on gun violence. He could have pointed out the root cause - drug dealing enabled by open borders policies.

After she questioned his business dealings, he could have brought up her business model - Influence Peddling.
trump, just call her a liar who more than 1/2 the country doesn't trust and cal it done
Keep paying credence to the false allegations Donald.
This is pathetic. Who said "Trump would be okay?"
Anybody have Hannity's number. I'll call him.
Look At that POS.

She's so loaded up on drugs she can't keep a straight face while the liberal POS "moderator" hits on Trump.
I wish I was loaded on drugs right now. I am watching the country go under.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Carnage. Thanks Donald. He's right, but presentation, presentation, presentation.


Yep!!!!

Why focus upon whether he was for the war!?!?!?!?

Wow he is amazing.
I bet Paul Ryan is loaded on drugs right now. And Priebus!!
Originally Posted by byc
This is pathetic. Who said "Trump would be okay?"


Why doesn't that goofy bastard STFU? The bitch doesn't have to do anything but let him talk.
Rand Paul would be annihilating Clinton in this debate.
Quit whining, turn off the tv and go vote for the bitch.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Look At that POS.

She's so loaded up on drugs she can't keep a straight face while the liberal POS "moderator" hits on Trump.


Nope she is brilliant enough to let her opponent tie the noose, set the chair, slip it over his neck, and kick it out from under himself.
Nobody would be winnin against an opponent that was fed the questions in advance.
OMG, how many times is he going to agree with her and state it? that;s three times now. facepalm
5 more minutes!!!!!

Thank God!

Oh wait 35. Dang!
4 times, 2x on same subject he's stated it
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Look At that POS.

She's so loaded up on drugs she can't keep a straight face while the liberal POS "moderator" hits on Trump.


Nope she is brilliant enough to let her opponent tie the noose, set the chair, slip it over his neck, and kick it out from under himself.


She's a slippery politician. Just what we need, another slippery politician.

PHOUCK HER! She is anti-American clear to her core!!!!!
Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.
DT is a poor debater. Hiliary is wide open and he does not go for the throat.

He's blowing it.
Hillary keeps taking quick glances down as if she is looking at something or other.
uh oh trump gets first crack at a question, bad news
Trump looks like a retard. That whore is kicking his ass.
I said it way back in the spring she'd clean his clock...
he'd be better off calling her a crooked kcunt...

I've come the the conclusion...if either of those dolts can be President so could I ...neither can argue or reason their way out of a paper bag

Can't figure who's taking a worse azz whooping Trump or the New Orleans Saints,it's painful watching both crash and burn
This has gone MUCH worse than I expected.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Rand Paul would be annihilating Clinton in this debate.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by byc
Betting he pulls out of all the remaining debates and blames it on the media unfairness.



He better if he expects to win. She's making him look like a retard.


True...and he has that hack of a moderator to thank for it....

God help us
On the bright side, he can only do better than this performance in the next debate.
Originally Posted by colorado bob
God help us


There is so much wrong with democrats, and DT knows it, that he looks like a kook pointing it out.
Originally Posted by RDW
Quit whining, turn off the tv and go vote for the bitch.


I guess I'm not the only one that thought this.
Originally Posted by Cruiser1
This has gone MUCH worse than I expected.


Ditto............
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Originally Posted by Steve
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Rand Paul would be annihilating Clinton in this debate.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


He would.
Please make them stop............
Im pretty sure Donald trump can't say Benghazi
IRA distribution tomorrow, 30 AR lowers, a load of parts from Brownells, come November make a [bleep] load.
Every question for Trump is an attack on him. Not so with Clinton's questions. How is this fair?
Is it too late to get Romney...

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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Can't figure who's taking a worse azz whooping Trump or the New Orleans Saints,it's painful watching both crash and burn


Washington Nationals are taking the worse azz whooping against the Diamondbacks--13-4. Not a good night for the home team!

At least the REDSKINS won!
We are all so screwed.
Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Can't figure who's taking a worse azz whooping Trump or the New Orleans Saints,it's painful watching both crash and burn


Washington Nationals are taking the worse azz whooping against the Diamondbacks--13-4. Not a good night for the home team!

At least the REDSKINS won!
They already cliched the division so it matters not
We clinched defeat when Trump was nominated
He got her on her Bad Experience ! Crowd loved it!
he's gonna lose it right now
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Steve
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Rand Paul would be annihilating Clinton in this debate.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


He would.


I would be doing better and that ain't saying much. I was laughing at those jumping off the SS Trump.
Epic disaster!

Awesome...just AWESOME!!!!
Originally Posted by byc
Epic disaster!


Trump did fine not his best but he did fine...
You cant tell me she didnt have that question ahead of time.
Originally Posted by muffin
Originally Posted by Cruiser1
This has gone MUCH worse than I expected.


Ditto............


Can't wait to see how the "no spin network" spins this disaster.
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by byc
Epic disaster!


Trump did fine not his best but he did fine...


Bubba we're pards but comon!!! Seriously!?
He missed so many great opportunities
Originally Posted by Steve
I would be doing better and that ain't saying much. I was laughing at those jumping off the SS Trump.

Can't get off. We've got to ride this train all the way to the bottom of the $%^&*# mine. Nowhere to go at this point, but don't have to like it..
he did fine
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
He missed so many great opportunities


Yes he did all he had too say Benghazi
So why the [bleep] are you whining pussies hyperventilating because a career politician is more polished than a non politician at an exclusively political activity? This entire election is about the rejection of politics as usual.

And besides, the questions were ridiculous. "Mr. Trump...you once ate a puppy on live TV. How do you think Mrs. Clinton feels about that despicable act?

Hillary won but not a knock out he needed to stay on point he was reactionary, unclear, and could have better prepared.
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
He missed so many great opportunities


Yes he did all he had too say Benghazi


That and cyber security with her personal server and leaked classified information - the two biggest he failed to capitalize on

Plus him not paying taxes - not contributing to schools, military, etc... why not respond with all the jobs he's created contributing? That's putting money in pockets, that's creating taxes being paid. That's contributing more than just one person's income tax could possibly create.
If I don't vote she just needs 1, if I do vote she needs to find 2.

I will be voting........
Trump needs to go full out nasty on her in the next debate! I fully beleive Donald's "handlers" told him to play nice!

I beleive he will go after her personally next time! Might as well because after this debate, he has nothing to lose.
Gentlemen, it's hard to win when the opponent has all the cards before you play the game. Being put of the defensive doesn't help getting your point across either. The powers that be want Clinton to win.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
So why the [bleep] are you whining pussies hyperventilating because a career politician is more polished than a non politician at an exclusively political activity? This entire election is about the rejection of politics as usual.

And besides, the questions were ridiculous. "Mr. Trump...you once ate a puppy on live TV. How do you think Mrs. Clinton feels about that despicable act?

Finished all my hyperventilating months ago. This is your show now.

Be interesting to see what happens with the polls.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
So why the [bleep] are you whining pussies hyperventilating because a career politician is more polished than a non politician at an exclusively political activity? This entire election is about the rejection of politics as usual.

And besides, the questions were ridiculous. "Mr. Trump...you once ate a puppy on live TV. How do you think Mrs. Clinton feels about that despicable act?



Shoot, I though he did pretty good for his first time debating somebody that wasn't on his team or that he couldn't fire.
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
He missed so many great opportunities


Yes he did all he had too say Benghazi


That and cyber security with her personal server and leaked classified information - the two biggest he failed to capitalize on


That, and the bullshiite about guns killing more than the next ten things on the list.!?!?!?!?!

Cars and swimming pools take more lives.
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
He missed so many great opportunities
This. Amazing.
Well,.....Trump's suit looked nice.!
Originally Posted by JoeBob
So why the [bleep] are you whining pussies hyperventilating because a career politician is more polished than a non politician at an exclusively political activity? This entire election is about the rejection of politics as usual.

And besides, the questions were ridiculous. "Mr. Trump...you once ate a puppy on live TV. How do you think Mrs. Clinton feels about that despicable act?

You make a good point. Brings me off the brink. Keep talking.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
He missed so many great opportunities
This. Amazing.


It's simple. He's never had real competition.
From what I see she has proven herself as a career establishment politician. Trump is just a common man. He shouldn't be beating her in a debate, she's been doing this all her life. He's being himself and that's what's gotten him this far. I predict he will gain in the polls.
Originally Posted by ratsnakeboogy
Gentlemen, it's hard to win when the opponent has all the cards before you play the game. Being put of the defensive doesn't help getting your point across either. The powers that be want Clinton to win.
No doubt.
Well, you [bleep] can throw in the towel if you want. Romney annihilated Obama in their first debate too..
Did they ever really even hit on immigration?

Now he goes right for Hannity. No doubt to fact check on the Iraq war.
Originally Posted by mog75
From what I see she has proven herself as a career establishment politician. Trump is just a common man. He shouldn't be beating her in a debate, she's been doing this all her life. He's being himself and that's what's gotten him this far. I predict he will gain in the polls.


Hope you are correct. I think Clinton will see an upward bounce, but not out of reach by any means.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Taco280AI
He missed so many great opportunities
This. Amazing.


Of course, he did. He isn't a lawyer. Quit the damned hand wringing. Debates mean nothing. Everyone knows that every word out of a politician's mouth is a lie.

Romney, by general acclamation kicked the schit out of Obama in their first debate. How did that work out?
For the next debate, Trump needs to get Monica Lewinski a seat next to Slick Willie on the front row.
Trump needs to come into the next debate wearing jeans and a "deplorables" t-shirt. Prove he's one of the people. Throw in a pair of converse all-stars and win over the hipsters, no holds barred attacks on her past and how much worse off we are after her as sec of state and obama.

He loses when he's on defense, due to the MSM. I think Bannon and Conway have their work cut out for them. Attack attack attack on her record!

However, I don't think the MSM will view this as biased against Clinton like the Commander-in-Chief Forum.

It went down about like I thought it would go down. Clinton wins. I was hoping she'd pass out or for a coughing fit. The media will be 'fact-checking' everything to kingdom come tomorrow. I don't think it's too late to sway most of the independents yet. Trump hasn't started ad campaigns in earnest.

Even the MSM says the polls are close. Be interesting to see the polls in a week, for whatever they're worth (wiping arse)
Originally Posted by mog75
Trump is just a common man.


The dude inherited $220 million dollars. He's not a "common man". I'm sorry, but he needs to stop saying "My Dad gave me a tiny loan." ($14 Million dollars). I'll have to vote for him but that can't go over well with the majority of people.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by mog75
Trump is just a common man.


The dude inherited $220 million dollars. He's not a "common man". I'm sorry, but he needs to stop saying "My Dad gave me a tiny loan." ($14 Million dollars). I'll have to vote for him but that can't go over well with the majority of people.


You are 100% correct!

Again, too much me and I!
Wow! He had so many chances to keep his cool and nail her to the wall and let his emotions get away from him. Let some golden opportunities slip by!
I guess I watched the wrong debate. Trump didn't blow her out if the water but it wasn't a train wreck for him either. I thought he had a few really good moments. I guess I'm biased as I don't think she deserves to be anywhere near that stage. She is a complete piece of garbage.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by mog75
Trump is just a common man.


The dude inherited $220 million dollars. He's not a "common man". I'm sorry, but he needs to stop saying "My Dad gave me a tiny loan." ($14 Million dollars). I'll have to vote for him but that can't go over well with the majority of people.


The only saving grace is that I don't think the majority of people can stand the evil b-I-t-c-h either.
Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
I guess I watched the wrong debate. Trump didn't blow her out if the water but it wasn't a train wreck for him either. I thought he had a few really good moments. I guess I'm biased as I don't think she deserves to be anywhere near that stage. She is a complete piece of garbage.
She is that.
You guys' comments don't make me feel real good about it. I was afraid of this. Hoping for better days.
He was far from perfect but I believe he will do better next time. You can't expect him to be perfect in his first debate up against the house...

Keep truckin Donald!
Originally Posted by ratsnakeboogy
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by mog75
Trump is just a common man.


The dude inherited $220 million dollars. He's not a "common man". I'm sorry, but he needs to stop saying "My Dad gave me a tiny loan." ($14 Million dollars). I'll have to vote for him but that can't go over well with the majority of people.


The only saving grace is that I don't the the majority of people can stand that evil b-I-t-c-h either.
That's our only hope.
Where's Wikileaks?
I need a drink............
In all fairness Lester Holt did a terrible job. Save for Hillary.

Can't believe the Clinton Foundation never came up!

I predict the next debate will be no holds barred for Trump. He will learn from his mistakes, and roast her ass next go round. The gloves are off, now!

Besides, she came off as an evil bitch as usual, with the looks she kept giving Trump, and her condescending manner.
He didn't hurt himself, which is a win. He didn't capitalize on some softballs and I still hope she dies of clitoral/anal cancer
The biggest disappointment is that any grown man could be surprised.
Originally Posted by Longbob
Where's Wikileaks?


That would be a good name for a tequila I need.

Come on Assange, bring the stuff.
Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
I guess I watched the wrong debate. Trump didn't blow her out if the water but it wasn't a train wreck for him either.


Agree completely. He made the point that if you want more of the same vote for her.....many times. I can't see how he hurt himself. Some people indeed watched a different debate as far as I am concerned.
Times like this, a man's gotta dig deep, and ask: What would Clark Griswold do?

Trump got questioned on his tax returns, Rosie Odonnell, and Birthergate to name a few. Not one question about Benghazi, email scandal, DNC scandal, health and on and on.

Trump was Trump. Hillary was a slimey condescending politician. It was more or less a draw.
Originally Posted by muffin
I need a drink............


And am fresh out of Pepto Bismol. Guess will cry on some Monkey Shoulder.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The biggest disappointment is that any grown man could be surprised.


Yep...
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The biggest disappointment is that any grown man could be surprised.


Adult alpha males for Cruz 2020 ! !
Maybe I was expecting too much for this first debate from Trump, an outright win. But he didn't win in my opinion. There was a lot he messed up on and many missed opportunities.

I can say that I feel a lot like I did about his performance in the primary debates where he looked outclassed. And to my surprise he kept rising in the polls. It wouldn't shock me if that continued to be the case.

There are also two more debates and I think Hillary will be very confident going into them. I also think Trump will come in much better prepared and focused.

We will see, but it ain't over by a long shot.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by mog75
Trump is just a common man.


The dude inherited $220 million dollars. He's not a "common man". I'm sorry, but he needs to stop saying "My Dad gave me a tiny loan." ($14 Million dollars). I'll have to vote for him but that can't go over well with the majority of people.


Lt.: I think I've made it pretty clear here on the 'fire (and so have you) that Trump was far from our first choice. But things are getting close, and the battleground states are tightening up. He has a chance at this. I have no idea what he'll do in the white house, but I know damn well what that lying corporate whore will do. If he turns flaming liberal, we can say told you so. If he's the second coming of Reagan I'll admit I [bleep] up. If he was trailing by 30 or 40% I'd still be whining, but he isn't. I think the conservatives would have been doing better at this point, but they're not in it. Just ignore his flaws for now. He's the best it's going to get from here on.
Hey, it's all okay.

Drudge poll has 90% saying Trump won it.

Breitbart poll has 76% saying Trump won.
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The biggest disappointment is that any grown man could be surprised.


Adult alpha males for Cruz 2020 ! !


There may be a better candidate than Cruz by 2020. There wasn't in 2016. Get over it. Being obsessed with him won't make what you did any easier.
Originally Posted by Longbob
Maybe I was expecting too much for this first debate from Trump, an outright win. But he didn't win in my opinion. There was a lot he messed up on and many missed opportunities.

I can say that I feel a lot like I did about his performance in the primary debates where he looked outclassed. And to my surprise he kept rising in the polls. It wouldn't shock me if that continued to be the case.

There are also two more debates and I think Hillary will be very confident going into them. I also think Trump will come in much better prepared and focused.

We will see, but it ain't over by a long shot.


You may be right. This is the first time he's ever disagreed with the other side, so we don't know what's gonna happen.
Well, that settles it. smirk


I won't be voting this time. I need a lot of time to get affairs in order and pack to move to New Zealand. frown


With a choice between bumbling ego and voracious ambition we're screwed. It looks like an extreme left turn is coming. eek

Maybe I'll cast an absentee vote for Trump. laugh

Pretty simple....POS lifetime politician vs slimy businessman. Hillary is a lying POS. I'll take the slimy businessman (aka non-politician).
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The biggest disappointment is that any grown man could be surprised.


Adult alpha males for Cruz 2020 ! !


There may be a better candidate than Cruz by 2020. There wasn't in 2016. Get over it. Being obsessed with him won't make what you did any easier.


Boss, you keep bringin' him (without naming) up...
Originally Posted by RJY66
Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
I guess I watched the wrong debate. Trump didn't blow her out if the water but it wasn't a train wreck for him either.


Agree completely. He made the point that if you want more of the same vote for her.....many times. I can't see how he hurt himself. Some people indeed watched a different debate as far as I am concerned.


You know I agree with this, my negative comments about the debate have not so much to do with content as the image, and unfortunately many vote on appearance rather than content!!!!
Image?
The most disappointing part of the debate was when Trump didn't totally hammer her as she was talking about cyber security.

"America would have much less problems with its cyber security if the Secretary of State wouldn't have kept an illegal, insecure server which contained top secret material at her home."

That's all it would have taken. He should have hit that out of the park.
Gotta love twitter sometimes..

Quote
Larry O'Connor ‏@LarryOConnor 5m5 minutes ago

Last take away from tonight: Was Trump suggesting that Chris Christie hacked the DNC servers? #debatenight #400lbhackers
He tried to dance when talking about the inner cities being in a mess.

All he needed to say is that DET, CHI, LA, etc., have been run by Democrats for over 35 years, why haven't you fixed it yet?????
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Image?


If you didn't listen close hillary 'Looked' better!
Trump is beating Hillary in a Bing poll and tied with her in a Time poll as to who won the debate. Those aren't exactly Breitbart.

There were no bombs dropped tonight. No huge gotcha moments. Every dart Hillary has on Trump, she threw at him with the help of Lester Holt and she didn't knock him out.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The most disappointing part of the debate was when Trump didn't totally hammer her as she was talking about cyber security.

"America would have much less problems with its cyber security if the Secretary of State wouldn't have kept an illegal, insecure server which contained top secret material at her home."

That's all it would have taken. He should have hit that out of the park.


He was too far gone by then, which is his biggest fault.

He can't let go with any of last 3 or 4 things that pizzed him off and move onto the current topic.

THAT's what he needs to work on!
Yikes.
I got home in time to see the last 5 minutes. I expected the post media coverage to skewer Trump, but when the best the Campfire can say is, "he didn't hurt himself"' and "he did fine", it had to be bad.

I blame Bob. The fugger could ruin a wet dream if he bet on it. Lol.
Trump didn't do as bad as I feared or as well as I hoped.

He needs gains among college educated white males and women across the board. Can't see that this debate was likely to persuade either group, but just showing up as the "Change Candidate" will keep him from tanking in the polls I think.

Maybe the college educated are at least as smart as me and understand that NYC businessmen don't talk like regular people so you can't expect complete sentences.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Trump is beating Hillary in a Bing poll and tied with her in a Time poll as to who won the debate. Those aren't exactly Breitbart.

There were no bombs dropped tonight. No huge gotcha moments. Every dart Hillary has on Trump, she threw at him with the help of Lester Holt and she didn't knock him out.

Any online poll means squat, or Ron Paul would have won the last 15 elections by 95% each time.

Gotta wait to see what happens to the polls over the next couple of weeks, and even then the polls this time around may not mean squat.

42 days until we find out what happens.
Originally Posted by MadMooner
I blame Bob. The fugger could ruin a wet dream if he bet on it. Lol.


Fresh sheets remain a house play.
DT was just righteously pissed off and let his emotions get the best of him. Who wouldn't in the presence of that witch? She's evil.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Trump is beating Hillary in a Bing poll and tied with her in a Time poll as to who won the debate. Those aren't exactly Breitbart.

There were no bombs dropped tonight. No huge gotcha moments. Every dart Hillary has on Trump, she threw at him with the help of Lester Holt and she didn't knock him out.

Any online poll means squat, or Ron Paul would have won the last 15 elections by 95% each time.

Gotta wait to see what happens to the polls over the next couple of weeks, and even then the polls this time around may not mean squat.

42 days until we find out what happens.


And exactly how much have you been right about this election cycle?
Relax! Trump knows that wikileaks is going to bury Hillary. None of this matters. Its coming.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The biggest disappointment is that any grown man could be surprised.


Yup. Agree. Saw it coming.

Two more debates. Time for Trump to learn from mistakes or lose big time.

Would Cruz have whupped her in a debate? Yes.

Would Cruz have won enough swing states to get the WH? Fugg no.

Would I like to see Cruz in the WH over Trump? Um... duh. I know a fantasy when I see one. Maybe that's what makes some of us 'different.'
Originally Posted by ctsmith
Relax! Trump knows that wikileaks is going to bury Hillary. None of this matters. Its coming.



So, he can fumble and bumble and it won't matter? crazy

He needs a ground game and smart plays, not spaced-out moments of opportunity lost.


Lose the ego Trump and prepare...work for this for krisesake!
In all fairness to Trump, he had to debate the Witch AND Lester!
Plus almost every question was directed at Trump's past. So much for a Fair & Balanced Debate. He could have done a lot worse, IMO.

I predict that the next two debates will have much different outcomes. Time will tell, but I still think he has a good shot at beating the bitch.

Her facial expressions, plus her eyes blinking 90 miles per hour speak volumes. Any idiot can see that she is on the ropes. Bet Trump gets a surge in the polls tomorrow just from her asinine facial expressions, and condescending manner, alone!
Originally Posted by walt501
Trump's winning....by hammering the old bitch.


Winning? Not even close. Hillary beat him. I watched about the last 20 minutes. He was far from crushing her.
I like fried Bologna and egg sandwiches
Hillary was very condescending and that is not good.
Making Trump look bad and looking very healthy while going it.
Originally Posted by 79S
I like fried Bologna and egg sandwiches


mustard or mayo?
Mayo hold the mustard
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by walt501
Trump's winning....by hammering the old bitch.


Winning? Not even close. Hillary beat him. I watched about the last 20 minutes. He was far from crushing her.


Lolol...okay sport.
Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by 79S
I like fried Bologna and egg sandwiches


mustard or mayo?


Well....

No egg I'd go mustard. With a fried egg likely mayo.

Definitely soft white bread. In the South it would be Bunny Bread.

Either way Dukes mayo for sure!!

BTW there's a deli here in town that serves up a to die for 20 layer non-fried bologna sandwich. Bores Head Bologna sliced wafer thin on white bread. LTM. Dang good sandwich.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The biggest disappointment is that any grown man could be surprised.


Adult alpha males for Cruz 2020 ! !


There may be a better candidate than Cruz by 2020. There wasn't in 2016. Get over it. Being obsessed with him won't make what you did any easier.


You get over it. Cruz sucked home tit. He showed who he really is and couldn't get out of little league.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by walt501
Trump's winning....by hammering the old bitch.


Winning? Not even close. Hillary beat him. I watched about the last 20 minutes. He was far from crushing her.


Lolol...okay sport.


Still toking I see.
Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The most disappointing part of the debate was when Trump didn't totally hammer her as she was talking about cyber security.

"America would have much less problems with its cyber security if the Secretary of State wouldn't have kept an illegal, insecure server which contained top secret material at her home."

That's all it would have taken. He should have hit that out of the park.


He was too far gone by then, which is his biggest fault.

He can't let go with any of last 3 or 4 things that pizzed him off and move onto the current topic.

THAT's what he needs to work on!


Cooorr...

eeeeectt!!!
Originally Posted by Cruiser1
This has gone MUCH worse than I expected.



Fair to say that Trump has under preformed tonight? Maybe a little prep might have helped him look more informed and somewhat interested in international issues.


Don't worry guys he can't do any worse .....can he?😂
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
In all fairness to Trump, he had to debate the Witch AND Lester!
Plus almost every question was directed at Trump's past. So much for a Fair & Balanced Debate. He could have done a lot worse, IMO.

I predict that the next two debates will have much different outcomes. Time will tell, but I still think he has a good shot at beating the bitch.

Her facial expressions, plus her eyes blinking 90 miles per hour speak volumes. Any idiot can see that she is on the ropes. Bet Trump gets a surge in the polls tomorrow just from her asinine facial expressions, and condescending manner, alone!


True,he debated both of them !
Apparently Fester either got Threatened or paid off or both.
The Clintons have deep pockets and are feared as well.
Reminded me of a couple monkeys throwing chit balls at each other. I wasn't impressed with either of them.

I think we are voting for the cow or the bull here. I think we need the bull right now. Fricking cow has been milked dry.
Hillary put Donald in a sleeper hold and he never recovered. .....
hiliary won the debate, and Trump won voters. Actually that's wrong because I can't find one online debate poll that doesn't put trump ahead or tied.

The only people thinking Trump did poorly (besides the dnc media) are on democratic underground and 24hourcampfire.
Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by byc
Originally Posted by 79S
I like fried Bologna and egg sandwiches


mustard or mayo?


Well....

No egg I'd go mustard. With a fried egg likely mayo.

Definitely soft white bread. In the South it would be Bunny Bread.

Either way Dukes mayo for sure!!

BTW there's a deli here in town that serves up a to die for 20 layer non-fried bologna sandwich. Bores Head Bologna sliced wafer thin on white bread. LTM. Dang good sandwich.


Now I'm hungry smile
Originally Posted by mog75
hiliary won the debate, and Trump won voters. Actually that's wrong because I can't find one online debate poll that doesn't put trump ahead or tied.

The only people thinking Trump did poorly (besides the dnc media) are on democratic underground and 24hourcampfire.



Pretend all you want...Trump did as well as Cam Newton in last years Super Bowl....
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Originally Posted by Cruiser1
This has gone MUCH worse than I expected.



Fair to say that Trump has under preformed tonight? Maybe a little prep might have helped him look more informed and somewhat interested in international issues.


Don't worry guys he can't do any worse .....can he?😂


You read the Alaska hunting Regs for unit 26?? As usual we're putting out some bogus information again like a good democrat
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Originally Posted by mog75
hiliary won the debate, and Trump won voters. Actually that's wrong because I can't find one online debate poll that doesn't put trump ahead or tied.

The only people thinking Trump did poorly (besides the dnc media) are on democratic underground and 24hourcampfire.



Pretend all you want...Trump did as well as Cam Newton in last years Super Bowl....


What's the bag limit for moose in unit 26 for non residents Walter?
Originally Posted by mog75
hiliary won the debate, and Trump won voters. Actually that's wrong because I can't find one online debate poll that doesn't put trump ahead or tied.

The only people thinking Trump did poorly (besides the dnc media) are on democratic underground and 24hourcampfire.





You know what? You're right! Everything I see and read on the net echoes this same thing....very interesting.

Time, among others has Trump as the winner.
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You read the Alaska hunting Regs for unit 26?? As usual we're putting out some bogus information again like a good democrat






Unit 26? I could look it up for you but off the top of my head I don't know....I work out of unit 23 and 25A. GMU 23 is by draw only with 5 sub-units and 25 is over the counter for 4 brown tines-50 + inches.Does that help any?


Do you need help with a flight service or just gear?
www.northwestalaska.net

Thanks for the Plug!


PS....do you think trump would like go on a hunt in 2017?
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The most disappointing part of the debate was when Trump didn't totally hammer her as she was talking about cyber security.

"America would have much less problems with its cyber security if the Secretary of State wouldn't have kept an illegal, insecure server which contained top secret material at her home."

That's all it would have taken. He should have hit that out of the park.
Indeed. Very obvious missed opportunity.
Originally Posted by joken2
Watching the debate on NBC and for some reason Hillary's split screen side looks like it has sharper contrast and is better lit than Trump's side. It's slight but still enough to draw attention to her side of the screen.

The blue color in the background appears to be a little 'bluer' on Hillary's side than it is on Trump's side too.


Looking back at some YouTube videos of last night's debate it still looks to me like Hillary's side of the split screen in NBC's broadcast was 'tweeked' in her favor.





Originally Posted by joken2

Looking back at some YouTube videos of last night's debate it still looks to me like Hillary's side of the split screen in NBC's broadcast was 'tweeked' in her favor.


good eyes! I agree.
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hiliary won the debate,


That was the headline even before the debate began. miles
Trump would do better to hold his own in the debates and start encouraging people who support him to get out and actually vote.
With excitement lower on her side and the fact that most have made up their mind it goingbto be about turn out. Since most of the independents who would support Trump probably actually work they arent lookng forward to standing in line for two hours to vote.
Like most of you I would like to see him wipe the floor with her azz but Im not sure that would win him any new vote. This one is about who shows up.
I will be filling out my ballot today and voting early.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Trump got questioned on his tax returns, Rosie Odonnell, and Birthergate to name a few. Not one question about Benghazi, email scandal, DNC scandal, health and on and on.

Trump was Trump. Hillary was a slimey condescending politician. It was more or less a draw.
Trump should have brushed those questions aside with a couple of dismissive words, then used his time to make a point of his choice against Hillary or in favor of himself.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The most disappointing part of the debate was when Trump didn't totally hammer her as she was talking about cyber security.

"America would have much less problems with its cyber security if the Secretary of State wouldn't have kept an illegal, insecure server which contained top secret material at her home."

That's all it would have taken. He should have hit that out of the park.
Yep.
Originally Posted by muffin
He tried to dance when talking about the inner cities being in a mess.

All he needed to say is that DET, CHI, LA, etc., have been run by Democrats for over 35 years, why haven't you fixed it yet?????
The opportunities missed are almost without number.
It is a knee-jerk reaction to blame Trump for not slamming Clinton on e mails, Benghazi, sniper fire in Bosnia, etc.... .

For the few but important voters who might be swayed by debates, and to use an NFL analogy, this is the preseason. You don't play your starters and show your best plays when it doesn't count.

And.... Trump is rising in the polls by running against Obama, so why change a winning strategy?
Many sites are calling it a draw. Trump is in new territory again. He will do well in the next debate. On the other side of the coin, Clinton should have been able to put him away and she couldn't. For everybody who posts about all Trump's missed opportunities; suit up, you try it. It ain't easy going against the machine
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And.... Trump is rising in the polls by running against Obama, so why change a winning strategy?



Obama described Hillary as a continuation of his legacy. That means Trumps tactic of running against Obama gains legitimacy, since Hillary never distanced herself from that comment.
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
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You read the Alaska hunting Regs for unit 26?? As usual we're putting out some bogus information again like a good democrat






Unit 26? I could look it up for you but off the top of my head I don't know....I work out of unit 23 and 25A. GMU 23 is by draw only with 5 sub-units and 25 is over the counter for 4 brown tines-50 + inches.Does that help any?


Do you need help with a flight service or just gear?
www.northwestalaska.net

Thanks for the Plug!




... oh now it's gmu 25 got it what's it going to change to next week..
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
PS....do you think trump would like go on a hunt in 2017?


Probably not with you...
Look Hillary doesn't have the blue print to beat Trump. Hillary was more prepared and more polished. But true to form she was robotic, condescending, and smug. Exactly all the reasons people hate her. Her camp has to be amazingly frustrated in that they can't land a knockout punch on the guy.

The only way Hillary can beat Trump is to become a different person. If that had been the exact same debate with the exact same responses but with Obama or Bill against Romney, they would be shoveling dirt on the Republican's grave this morning. But it wasn't.

Hillary is a caricature of everything everyone hates about politicians. She is what you would get if an evil space alien watched forty years of American politics with no real understanding of people and then came out and tried to imitate what it had seen. Against that Trump is the perfect foil because whatever you think about him, he comes across as genuine.
Along with flight service and gear we also offer heart attack insurance for fat old hunters like Trump, are you interested in son information?

You realize every time you try to beat me up and challange my outfitting service my web site pops with activity. Thanks !!

www.northwestalaska.net
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Along with flight service and gear we also offer heart attack insurance for fat old hunters like Trump, are you interested in son information?

You realize every time you try to beat me up and challange my outfitting service my web site pops with activity. Thanks !!

www.northwestalaska.net


Could you at the very least try to control your nambla fantasies here?

No one here in interested in any SON information!
Thanks for the refresh! Every time you guys respond my hits go way up...I have seen 89 hits just this morning. You guys are driving business my way...

www.northwestalaske.net
Float Hunts and Drop Camps
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Thanks for the refresh! Every time you guys respond my hits go way up...I have seen 89 hits just this morning. You guys are driving business my way...

www.northwestalaske.net
Float Hunts and Drop Camps


You don't remember posting this?

"I have 8 groups going out this week and next into the Eastern Brooks Range with Bushwacker Air. This is out first year working out there after 17 years working in unit 23. Fingers are crossed for these guys. I am always nervous for my groups when we expand into a new area. Whats nice is Unit 26 allows 2 bulls and an over the counter moose-50+ or 4 brow tines.

Did you see any moose?

Walt"
YYYYYUGE reception for Trump in FLA right now on FOX. He pulled his jet right into crowd.

Right off the bat he goes right back into his Crooked Hillary pitch. He ain't the least bit fazed by last night.

GO Trump!! Kick some asssss dude!!
Even Rudy is with him.

This is great!
Gonna start getting hotter in killerys commie kitchen BYC. cool
I heard today on one of the news stations, the talking heads were giving credence to the Clinton team's rumor that Trump might not show up to the next 2 debates.

We know all know that's false and he'll show up, but I admire the Hutzpah ol' Bill has for being a weasel, he's a master at stirring things up...

Can you imagine Trump flipping on the news this morning and being informed he might not attend the next debates because he got whooped.. He might have dropped a cuss word or two..
I can admire nothing about a cowardice weasel coyote.
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Thanks for the refresh! Every time you guys respond my hits go way up...I have seen 89 hits just this morning. You guys are driving business my way...

www.northwestalaske.net
Float Hunts and Drop Camps


You don't remember posting this?

"I have 8 groups going out this week and next into the Eastern Brooks Range with Bushwacker Air. This is out first year working out there after 17 years working in unit 23. Fingers are crossed for these guys. I am always nervous for my groups when we expand into a new area. Whats nice is Unit 26 allows 2 bulls and an over the counter moose-50+ or 4 brow tines.

Did you see any moose?

Walt"


Of course he doesn't he's now singing a different tune saying he's in unit 25A now.
So now Howard dumbass Dean is saying Trump was on cocaine last night.

This BS is way out of control!!!
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
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You read the Alaska hunting Regs for unit 26?? As usual we're putting out some bogus information again like a good democrat






Unit 26? I could look it up for you but off the top of my head I don't know....I work out of unit 23 and 25A. GMU 23 is by draw only with 5 sub-units and 25 is over the counter for 4 brown tines-50 + inches.Does that help any?


Do you need help with a flight service or just gear?
www.northwestalaska.net

Thanks for the Plug!



Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Thanks for the refresh! Every time you guys respond my hits go way up...I have seen 89 hits just this morning. You guys are driving business my way...

www.northwestalaske.net
Float Hunts and Drop Camps


You don't remember posting this?

"I have 8 groups going out this week and next into the Eastern Brooks Range with Bushwacker Air. This is out first year working out there after 17 years working in unit 23. Fingers are crossed for these guys. I am always nervous for my groups when we expand into a new area. Whats nice is Unit 26 allows 2 bulls and an over the counter moose-50+ or 4 brow tines.

Did you see any moose?

Walt"
Originally Posted by byc
So now Howard dumbass Dean is saying Trump was on Coke last night.

This BS is way out of control!!!


I'm not the smartest but I think trump is saving the Clinton foundation, Benghazi, hacked emails, for the last debate so it's fresh in people's heads.
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