sharia law is setting the dress code on United .

I understand the tickets were bought by employee vouchers but the kids are too young.

for hunting trips , always wear leggings under your pants in cold weather , it keeps moisture away from your skin.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/26/us/united-airlines-leggings.html?_r=0

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The article clearly states that tickets bought under employee status have a dress code. That is entirely reasonable. The girls either didn't read the fine print, or ignored it. They agreed to change clothes and took a later flight.

Much ado about nothing here, folks.

They conveniently left out a VERY important part of the story. This is from a Foxnews report of the incident:


Our daughter works for a large airline and we have flight benefits as her parents. Employees have a limited number of guest passes that they can give to friends and other relatives. When flying as an employee or AN EMPLOYEE'S GUEST, they're representing the airline and they have a strict dress code that must be followed. If they don't like it, they can buy a regular ticket.

These girls violated the dress code so they can't fly under the terms of the guest pass. Cut and dried. They're welcome to go buy tickets if they don't want to play by the rules.

no , don't give in. I ask all women and some men to consider buying leggings.

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Yeah....but that story isn't as juicy as what was initially stated in the article.



Clyde

what if dress code was head scarf , would you have agreed to it?

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I hope one of the adults in the group was the employee whose tickets they were flying under. If not the employee that gave them their vouchers is liable to lose their travel privileges. When we fly standby or ID90 on employee vouchers we follow the rules for employee travel. If you don't like it you can buy a full fare ticket and wear what you want, within reason.

this is deja vu all over again, no dress code for women with extreme prejudice , unless you are a woman or gay.

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there ought to be a dress code that bans spandex for any woman over 145 pounds.

If a private company wants to have a dress code for people using its internal benefits, why are we complaining?

This isn't a government thing.

It's a private airline that gives employees a fringe benefit in the way of travel passes, and they have a dress code for employees using those passes.

regular folks can still wear their leggings or yoga pants or whatever....

Agreed. Don't like it? Don't fly that airline.

Travel benefits are a great deal for airline employees. They can fly free, on standby, anywhere their own airline goes and can get on most other airlines for a small fraction of what regular tickets cost, again on standby. The airlines give them the benefits and the rules are very simple but they do need to be followed. The dress code is one of them. It's no big deal. The code doesn't require a suit and tie. Women don't have to wear dresses. Just wear normal, clean, decent clothes with minimal skin showing. It's what the majority of Americans wear to work every day.

All this thing is is a fake Facebook thing with 99% of the people not knowing what the truth is.

I won't.

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Dress code is not leggings. Dress code is agreed on before accepted tickey. No wear accepted clothing, no get tickey. No camel toe, and no short shorts for men either.
Put headscarf carry-on.
Dress code listed here:
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/03/26/united-leggings-dress-code/#

That's coming soon to an airport near you. Sooner, if you live in a demoncrap califate.

Most Americans don't like double standards. It might be different if the passengers somehow knew who was flying full fare and who had an employee discount. I don't believe they do or care. But hey, we all need a little totalitarianism in our lives, right?

They weren't bought at all, they were free. Most airlines have free travel benefits for employees and their families. As a condition of those free travel benefits there's a dress code. That dress code is in place because they don't want people traveling on free passes dressing like slobs and bringing down the image of their product. If you pay for the ticket then there's obviously a much less strict dress code because you're then a client, not someone getting something for free.

Any time an employee gets a free benefit from their employer there are usually conditions attached. If someone has a company car the company will many times let them use it for things other than work, but they're not going to let them park in front of a strip club for example. My company provides an Ipad for work and I can use it for personal reasons too, but if I'm using it to surf porn they're probably not going to like it. The kicker is that they're providing something the employee gets to use for free so they get to set the terms, just like United with their free passes.

Again, these tickets were FREE, they were not paying customers. It's clearly stated to all the employees the proper dress code for employees and their families traveling on these FREE passes. If you're a paying customer you can wear whatever you want as long as it's not obscene. If you're traveling for FREE then the airline can dictate your dress in a manner they deem appropriate. I don't see how anyone can have a problem with that.

Having a dress code for employees utilizing the company's planes at a discount, is hardly totalitatianism. Though they are not advertising they are employees, I believe the airline has a right to decide how they are represented by the employee. Don't like it, I guess you could pay full fare.

It's their airline, and their rules.

I thought most of y'all were all about businesses setting their own rules.

I guess that only applies when you happen to agree?

What Crow Hunter said. It is also NOT a double standard. The dress code applies to everybody who chooses to fly free as a company benefit.

If you argue that it's a double standard when applied to paying fliers, fine. But having some fly free is also a double standard under that argument.

Do you get a discount anywhere? Double standard.

Have YOU read ANY of the replies in this thread?
SMDH

"What if's" are a game a junior high kid would play.

If I didn't like it I could buy a ticket full price somewhere else....

Most airline employees aren't in a get rich job. Alaska, I know, doesn't pay all that well. The flight benefits cost the airline almost nothing because the seats would be empty otherwise and it's a way of compensating employees for the low pay.

Our daughter has her fiance on her benefits as her significant other. In the past 2 years they've been all over South America, Europe, and Asia. They'll hop a plane and fly to Spain or somewhere whenever they can put together a few days off.

One is also not to call attention to the fact that one is flying non-rev...

One is to follow the empoyer's dress-code guidlines while flying non-rev, as well as on duty, which are not stringent (at least not for Alaska Airlines).

There is also a whole ladder of non-rev priority. Senoirity is parmount (it's not first come-first serve signup), under employees traveling on/for company business, even if not on duty at the time.

Alaska employees with at least 15 years of service have life-time non-rev privileges, for themselves, after retirement or ending employment. I always wonder how many on the plane are flying non-rev.....

The only question I have is - was the legging issue spelled out in the dress code, or was it the agent's judgement call? Either way, suck it up buttercup - it's the agent's call, within reason. Which the people in question did. (I don't even know what "leggings" are, or if I would judge them non-acceptable under the circumstances)

You will also note that it wasn't an employee non-rev that caused the chit-storm- it was a clueless paying passenger, who couldn't wait to stick her nose in what was none of her business to get her 15 minutes of social media fame.

OK- I read up on it. What leggings are and that "No leggings" is specifically spelled out for non-rev repeat- non-rev - travel on United. Paid tickets can wear them if they wish, and an agent isn't going to call them on it.

So the family should have been aware of it. Probably just something on this trip that slipped thru the cracks . No pun intended.

And yes, it is up to the Agent's discretion.

Rules is rules, don't like it fly another airline.

Wasn't that long ago that flying was a suit and tie affair. Women wore skirts. Now it's like they're going to work out at Gold's Gym.

I used to fly...a lot. Always business class unless the flight was over 6 hours, then the company would let us fly First. Often, because I always wore a suit and tie, the gate attendant would bump me up to First...and they said as much. Sometimes pays to put in a little extra effort.

Does this help you any?..

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1Gj7o...men-Leggings-girl-legging-Pants-Free.jpg

http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1LrFfLpXXXXc8XXXXq6xXFXXXa/201013550/HTB1LrFfLpXXXXc8XXXXq6xXFXXXa.jpg

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1LuAs...tic-fitness-sport-leggings-plus-size.jpg

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Depends on your definition of "help" !

I know of a very expensive catholic girls school that wont let them wear slacks.
bizarre if not idiotic rule.
Even in the late 60s, my sister was allowed to wear slacks at a private catholic school.

If you ever have enjoyed non-rev flight benefits on an airline - a bennie provided by the airline for employees and some designated relatives - you will understand the rules/standards issue quite well - and why those folks did not fly. This has zero to do with the airline's policy on purchased tickets.

If you never have enjoyed the non-rev status and appreciated the reasons for the rules, you might be confused, or even agitated by this story - which is a non-issue blown up by certain media types.

Put those same pants on the pre-teen girls who are the subject of this thread and they won't look nearly as good...except to a pedophile.

Sharia!!!! Lol.

My Dad was an airline employee and we flew non-revenue: we had to wear our church clothes.

Oh FFS seriously , pedos will even look at babies in prams, or anything else that interests them no matter how the child
is dressed , next thing youll say is kids/young teens shouldn't wear bathers at the river, lake or beach or neigbors pool.

I wouldn't exactly accuse this girl as being dressed as a pedo magnet.

http://www.cheapleggings.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Kids-Leggings-Online-1-800x1066.jpg

and ones like this should be complimented for representing her country with her leggings,
not asked to change because of pinhead Co. 'policy'

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...al-1369788678_1024x1024.png?v=1421880028


Catholic and Anglican pedo priests get turned on by alter boys in full length vestments!

http://www.desta.it/module/BlueShop/BlueShop/getImgFromBlob/prod/20554?w=288&h=425&zc=1

Either would be under dressed to represent the company.

Well I also consider the paying customers than an airline carries as representative of Co.
values & standards , Numerous clubs and establishments require a dress code for their
financial members. Despite the fact they are paying for the services they are receiving,
theres no relaxation on dress code.

You either have A std or you don't, rather than a double std.

If I see regular customers boarding with permitted leggings , then to me thats the dress std.
representative of the carrier. Same if I go for a drink and notice they allow face-neck tattoos
and biker club patch colors...The staff may have to wear Armani suites, but that would be
irrelevant to me. The std that they have set, is the lowest permissible one.

Back when people dressed up for flying:

Most non-revs pay something for standby.

Not all majors have a dress-code and will often bump you up to first-class if open.

Shorts, flip-flops, dinner and an open bar.... aah, thank you Dxlta!

He was minding his own business.

Which apparently does not include the other replies.

I can remember a time when our family would not go to town in dirty work clothes. If you needed parts or something you washed up and changed clothes. You then changed again before going back to work. Not Sunday clothes, but clean. Up until the 1980's I don't think there was a club in Hot Springs, Arkansas they you could wear jeans in. You had to have on slacks, and no hats or caps. Now stores are full of people in pajamas and house shoes. Shower shoes are worn regular and they even make dress up ones. miles

Can't tell if troll or stupid?

There are private catholic schools, and then there are private catholic schools. Private institutions are free to set their standards and students are free choose whether or not they wish to abide by those standards. If one does not wish to adhere to the standards of a private school, one can choose to go elsewhere. Maybe there are folks who do not understand a "standard".

Aren't they one in the same...

seriously : leggings for men is described here :

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/underwear.html


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If you try wearing just underwear without any pants on a flight, be sure to youtube the experience. Lawyers on both sides would appropriate it.

Leggings for dudes?

Is that the schit Brett Favre is hawking, with a bullets worth of copper woven into every one....

that's a scam , but polypropylene underwear keeps the moisture away from you skin , try it next time on a cold day.

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It's a private company. If they want to ban white sox, I'm fine with it.

Four Friends of mine are captains for United Airlines, I just recently went to Hong Kong with my buddy who is a captain on a 777, I am on his companion list. I flew Polaris first class there and back, Free,I believe it was $7600 round-trip. He's specifically as he always does tells me no jeans khaki pants button-down shirt, I say , Roger that. So yes there is a company dress code.