Don't eat Gas Station Nacho Cheese

lots of people are getting sick after eating Gas Station Nacho Cheese in northern California.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-spends-3-weeks-intensive-220115637.html

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Well, Duh !

Oh man that is a weakness.

But you gotta hit 240-250*F to kill botulinum. And I doubt any of those cheese dispensers are that hot since that crap "cheese" food-product comes in a plastic bag.

No chiit ?, well there goes dinner next week.

One less item to try on my eating safari. Are Allsups green chili burritos still ok?

Originally Posted by keith_dunlap

Well, Duh !

Haha! Yep.

Heard the other day that you are not supposed to lick the toilet seats at gas stations either.

Ain't skeered.

I'd never eat gas station nacho cheese. I much prefer gas station sushi.

Is that the cheese where you push the button? Or chili.

I had gas station cheese on my nachos at the Ketchikan airport 2 days ago but the Alaskan Amber killed all toxins. I had several just to be sure.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

I had gas station cheese on my nachos at the Ketchikan airport 2 days ago but the Alaskan Amber killed all toxins. I had several just to be sure.

Good thinking.

Originally Posted by persiandog

lots of people are getting sick after eating Gas Station Nacho Cheese in northern California.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-spends-3-weeks-intensive-220115637.html

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MMMm, Mmmmm... Even better is them sweet 'rolo-dogs'.....

Can't say that we've eaten that nacho cheese for more than probably 40 some years off and on..... or however long nachos have been around stations.....

Non-dairy cheese food product........from a never cleaned gas station dispenser.

Sign me up. Lol.

this is a thread title that I would think never needs to be made.

No way I'd eat that crap

To be fair to gas stations, that's the same "cheese" and dispensing machines you'd find at ball parks, theaters, and convenience stores. Dubious quality and food safety at best, no matter where you buy it.

Oh boy.

That rates right up there with licking the receiver of a public pay phone.

Or rubbing your privates all over the bus station toilet.

Or playing Russian Roulette with only one empty chamber.

Originally Posted by rockinbbar

Oh boy.

That rates right up there with licking the receiver of a public pay phone.

Haven't seen a pay phone in YEARS

Mike

not even if I am putting it on an arby's gyro???

I thought that stuff was for plugging leaks in old radiators.......

Originally Posted by bigfish9684

Oh man that is a weakness.

But you gotta hit 240-250*F to kill botulinum. And I doubt any of those cheese dispensers are that hot since that crap "cheese" food-product comes in a plastic bag.

Try 140... nothing much living can handle 125...

It's not a matter of killing the bacteria, if they'd already made the Botulism toxin, you're still up a creek. It's an extremely powerful poison. Not sure what temp can actually destroy the chemical.

Originally Posted by tex_n_cal

It's not a matter of killing the bacteria, if they'd already made the Botulism toxin, you're still up a creek. It's an extremely powerful poison. Not sure what temp can actually destroy the chemical.

140 does it handily...

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There is no vaccine for C. botulinum, and anti-toxin is not useful for prevention. Heating to high temperatures will kill the spores. Temperature greater than boiling (212°F) is needed to kill spores so pressure cookers are recommended for home canning (reaching at least 250-250°F). The toxin is heat-labile though and can be destroyed at > 185°F after five minutes or longer, or at > 176°F for 10 minutes or longer. Boiling homecanned foods for 10 minutes or longer is recommended.

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It actually takes about 160f to kill most foodborn pathogens. Those little botulizers must be some tough cookies.

Originally Posted by tex_n_cal

It's not a matter of killing the bacteria, if they'd already made the Botulism toxin, you're still up a creek. It's an extremely powerful poison. Not sure what temp can actually destroy the chemical.

The toxin is destroyed by boiling. The problem is that its a bacteria that produces spores and it takes 250F to kill them. At home, you need a pressure cooker to do it. Either acid or salt will kill them, too, which is why only low acid foods, like meat or beans, need a pressure cooker for canning.

Originally Posted by Whiptail

Are Allsups green chili burritos still ok?

Only the three day old ones...Proper aging is essential!

Originally Posted by johnw

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Learning Point
There is no vaccine for C. botulinum, and anti-toxin is not useful for prevention. Heating to high temperatures will kill the spores. Temperature greater than boiling (212°F) is needed to kill spores so pressure cookers are recommended for home canning (reaching at least 250-250°F). The toxin is heat-labile though and can be destroyed at > 185°F after five minutes or longer, or at > 176°F for 10 minutes or longer. Boiling homecanned foods for 10 minutes or longer is recommended.

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Those numbers include HUGE "fudge factors" for safety and have nothing to do with what kills the toxins or the spores.

You won't find botulinum in creek or lake water. Just bring it to a boil and you'll kill everything in it. They used to say to boil it for 10 min or something like that. Nonsense. The bugs start dying at about 160 and by the time it boils, they're all dead. You don't even have to get it to a boil but most hikers don't have a thermometer with them so bringing it to a boil is an easy way to do it.

Probably the only 'natural' or 'organic' thing in the nachos and it's what put her in the hospital.

I think that is fake news,it says "lots" of people getting sick, thats got to be a lie, there can't be "lots" of people stupid enough to attempt to eat that slop!!!!

Originally Posted by mohick

, there can't be "lots" of people stupid enough to attempt to eat that slop!!!!

Obama got elected, didn't he?

Apparently, it would be perfectly safe to slather it on a Bible and eat the whole thing, however. (Provided you were on Death Row.)

Hey man, dat's nacho Bible!

Well hopefully they are GMO free at the very least

How about g.s. Nacho cheese ON g.s. sushi?

Was it down with some g.s. hot chocolate.

That place is an absolute shart hole. Been by it a few times on the way to go fishing.

Wife runs a c-store/gas station. They used to have a cheese/chilli machine for hot dogs. Small place, rural, they got rid of the machine, it ran so hot that without frequent use it burnt the cheese and chilli. And no, the chilli did not have beans, it was for hot dogs!

I also like to live dangerously......... I had gas station egg rolls today. The cheese heater thing does not scare me much unless it has a hard ring around the edge...

Some foods aren't. Years ago I had an old beater camp trailer. My son and I used it on a hunting trip, then we used it for storage for the next 10 years. I know how long it was by the license plate. I decided it needed cleaning out and in the icebox I found an unopened pound of margarine. It was just like it came from the store. It hadn't molded or anything. Anything that could last that long isn't food. It's plastic. I haven't knowingly eaten margarine ever since.

finally this is being reported as outbreak :

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/health/one-dead-california-gas-station-botulism-outbreak-nacho-cheese/

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