Breaking news is that the Las Vegas shooter had reserved two rooms at the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago overlooking the Lolapalooza music festival but didn't show.

Note that one of the Obama [bleep] attended that show. Did his dark-op handlers take that into consideration?

Can't say c h i m p l e t s

No you can't. That would be insulting and insensitive.. to primates.

that doesn't seem very anti-fa ?

[bleep]

lol


whats the story with that word being on the black list? is that a common term I've never heard?

I'm surprised this isn't garnering more comment around here. The hints at a possible dark op are building.

Sheriff's office and other law enforcement can't agree on who broke down the door or whether or not they saw the perp kill himself. What kind of 'someone is reading from a script' and someone isn't is that?

Brother interviewed wearing a t-shirt of a charity on which Sarah Brady of Handgun Control, Inc. is a director. How close are we to a contact between the perp and other actors in the gun control movement?

Perp possibly photographed at an anti-Trump rally recently. Possible ANTIFA-related handlers in the background?

Perp had already made plans and reserved rooms overlooking the location of the Lollapalooza concerts which average over 100,000 attendees per day for three days. But doesn't show after making the reservations at the Blackstone. And it turns out one of Obama's daughters attended Lollapalooza - a good reason for a dark ops team to turn away from that target. .

It just feels like there is a team effort somewhere in the background of this.

He likely changed his mind when he realized in Chicago nobody would have noticed.....

We have a winner of the day!!

My wife is the least conspiracy oriented person I know but she came home from work the other night and said that she’s hearing all kinds of weird stuff about this shooting and that it doesn’t seem right to her. She out of the blue referenced the movie shooter and said that’s what this reminded her of. 😬. She was reading reports that eyewitnesses claimed the shooters high angle contradicted their observations. Eyewitnesses claimed that the rounds were coming much more horizontally than at an angle. Of course there’ll be 10 versions of reality if you ask 10 people but until every avenue is explored I’ll keep an open mind. What isn’t lost on me is the bravery of everyday people and the tragic loss so many families are experiencing. I’ll keep them in my prayers and I’ll pray for an accurate and just investigation, wherever it leads.

Something seems very strange about this entire thing. I seriously doubt that we’ll ever know the truth about what happened.

That seems to be a possibility at this point. I mean seriously....NOBODY has stepped forward at this point to say ANYTHING about this guy's possible motivation (short of random theories). Not one person saying "yeah, we talked once at the poker table. He really hated Trump". Or Obama. Or whoever / whatever. Or "I was next to him at a craps table, and man, he really did not believe in the 2A".

What, this guy had ZERO interest or opinion on politics? Rednecks? Antifa? BLM? NRA? AWB? Nothing? No Comment? Ever?

Scouted out a location and time to take out hundreds at a hip hop / rap / pop festival? That didn't work out so he switched to a country music concert? Beginning to look like he had no ideological reason for his target selection at all, and it was all about killing as many as possible in a short amount of time, the victim's own political or ideological leanings be damned. Seems now he was not trying to make a statement regarding his victims.

And latest I've heard is that they have found nothing on his electronic devices (cell, computers) to indicate a motive.

Seriously. WTF. The guy may have been smart, but THAT smart? To be able to hide and eliminate any trace of web searches, hard drive evidence, etc, and to not ever mention it to anyone? And no manifesto?

Amassed most or all this stuff starting in October 2016? Seems to coincide (though a bit prematurely) with the election if true. Was he a "gun nut" ready to go off the rails if Hillary was elected? Or a fanatical libtard preparing to do the same if Trump was elected?

No railing against America's youth and how they would be the downfall of this country?

Every time something like this has happened before, there is always someone out there saying "uhm, well, yeah....he was an awful pizzed off person about....", or "yep, saw him popping Prozac like they were Pez. Dude was nuttier than squirrel chit".

Only explanation that is beginning to make any sense is they pop this dude's skull cap off, and there's a tumor in there the size of a golf ball.

I think we can all understand rabid idealism and fanaticism to some point (not agree with it, but understand how it happens), but to just go out and kill dozens and hurt hundreds just for the fug of it? No reason other than to just do it? That's a special kind of twisted chit. Like that boy who killed that girl years back with the explanation he "just to see what it was like to kill someone", but on a much grander scale.

I've read that mentioned in passing a few times now in various threads on this board. I'm not a 'medical guy,' so could someone elaborate. Is that actually possible? For someone to develop a tumor and snap like that? ..or is it only being mentioned sort of tongue in cheek?

Charles Whitman is supposed to have had a brain tumor. I'm going off of comments I've read and not any of my own research on that.

I wonder if they are running his DNA against any unsolved murders where he was known to have traveled.

WTF is a lolapalooza?

Why is the FBI investigating this? I didn't think there was a federal law against murder. Shouldn't it be investigated by the city PD or the sheriff's office?

That's likely right.................with the FBI involved, we'll absolutely, positively never get the real story or facts of what happened.

MM

Not tongue in cheek. It could be possible, and could help explain what seems to be completely senseless - and so far - without apparent motivation.

It is coming out now that his girlfriend is saying he would lay in bed moaning and screaming "Oh my god!". Also reported he has been losing significant weight. Either the guy was in a lot of pain possibly, or had something eating on his brain.

Charles Whitman is supposed to have had a brain tumor. I'm going off of comments I've read and not any of my own research on that.
..................That was one of the first things I thought of......... A nutcase up in an elevated firing position randomly killing as many as possible and it reminded me of Charles Whitman. Didn't they find a brain tumor on Whitman when they did an autopsy? I'm sure this guy will get the autopsy treatment very thoroughly; be interesting to see if anything is found.

It's absolutely possible. Brain trauma is very common in people who experience a "psychotic break".

Locals can request assistance from the FBI. Many of the victims were from out of state, the shooter had residence in 4 states, and there's the potential terror angle, with a girlfriend who was out of the country, and multiple international wires....,

I opened this thread yesterday when it was posted. Right out of the gate you're throwing gratuitous racial slurs, about an event yet which ain't particularly "Black". So I thought "Crap, another Stormfront moron polluting the 'Fire." Prob'ly other guys did too.

Like everyone else, I'm wondering if there were some sort of brain condition or tumor, that or maybe ISIS is speaking the truth I dunno.

The Lollapalooza angle kinda throws a political motive out the window.

Just as well it weren't at a Hip Hop venue or whatever, because then it'd be all about race, evil White guy, case closed, and another victory for the Left. We'd never hear the end of it, they'd prob'ly make the day of remembrance an annual holiday.

I've stayed at the Hilton Chicago which overlooks the park where Lalapalooza is held. I was able to watch one stage with a crowd probably half the size of what was at Las Vegas. I can't imagine thinking you should shoot up a room and into a crowd and have an exit strategy.

To set the narrative in motion.

I do not claim to be an expert but it appears to me much of this is fake news. Law enforcement is under a lot of pressure to produce results quickly. I suspect they are grabbing at threads and ascribing motives. Perhaps they have more evidence, but perhaps they do not. Until then all that is known is that he stayed in various places and made reservations to stay in others. He also left some stuff is his car. Big deal. Maybe he forgot he had it, maybe he decided he did not need it, or maybe he though he might get away. No one has any idea about what he was thinking.

The one thing that I have heard very little about is how he got his money. He owned two airplanes, residential houses, and spent a lot of time at casinos and liked to gamble. He portrayed himself as a successful gambler and supposedly played slots and video poker. That does not make sense. While people may have good days and big scores, no one wins consistently at either slots or video poker. So where did he get his money? Did he really make some great investments? Perhaps he was involved money laundering or some other illegal activity. That more than anything else may give insight into his mind.

Or he did that on purpose to make it look like it wasn't political.

I saw it reported that he won $5 million gambling in 2015. He may have been a little smarter than you think.

Okay, you're entitled to react to that. My negro fatigue is showing a lot lately. As much as I don't want to go into Chicago, I can at least remember when most of it was safe. Now most of it is not safe due to out of control black urban criminal culture.



But... If there is a conspiracy. Finding out Obama's kid was going to be in the crowd would be a good reason not to do the shooting at that event.

Is it absurd to think this could have been a conspiracy? I don't think so. Is it absurd to think that Fast and Furious was a conspiracy with no motive or purpose other than to propel more gun control, without regard for loss of life?

As inconsistencies keep mounting, it get's easier and easier to think this could have been a conspiracy.

Gambling wins are based on sheer luck not skill, unless he was able to able 'know for sure' what card the dealer
will draw next.....lol..........how do you think casinos make so much money?

Show your ignorance...

how do you know what the craps die will roll next, or where the roulette ball will stop?

even the casino doesn't know that ....When they accept a patrons bet they are also effectively gambling
..in their business model favor is the house edge, table limits and the houses massive capital back-up of chips.
The maths model is specifically designed to win for casinos not patrons.

ANYone who thinks gambling patrons guessing efforts in a game of chance that result in a win, is a skill,
then they should get to a casino now to make their life fortune.

You give a professional gambler 5000 and you or me 5000 and over a course of time, you and I will be broke whereas the pro will play a lot longer with a much higher chance of coming out on top. The casinos make money on guys like you and I. They hate the good pro's. Counting cards is not illegal in Nevada, but a casino thinks you are doing it, they kick you out. There are ways to make the odds near even, and that's what the pro's do.

I don't have the skill or patience to be a pro, but I know a few who are and they live quite comfortably. One at sports, the other is a cards guy. Like I said, it's not in most peoples skill set to be able to calculate percentages on the spot, and stay cool while doing it and thus turning it to your advantage, but to say it is impossible is just an uneducated statement.