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Posted By: MontanaMan Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
If half of this is true, we are not in very good shape.........................& the timing is bad.

Hope Trump can get the ship turned around, & soon.

MM

Navy 7th Pacific Fleet
Obama was a Zero, in many ways.
Posted By: 340boy Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
He did his best to destroy this country and darn near succeeded. I think of him as a traitor.
yup, Zero's presidency will be felt for a long time. and some of the ground lost, will never be regained.
Posted By: hanco Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
He was a piece of crap!!!
MontanaMan: barrack hussein obama is not just the worst President of the United States EVER!
He is the worst human being on earth to ever hold such a high office!
The damage this racist, socialist son of a bitch (and I mean that literally as well!) has done to this country in so MANY ways will take a long time to correct.
Don't get me started.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
MontanaMan: barrack hussein obama is not just the worst President of the United States EVER!
He is the worst human being on earth to ever hold such a high office!
The damage this racist, socialist son of a bitch (and I mean that literally as well!) has done to this country in so MANY ways will take a long time to correct.
Don't get me started.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


How about the people who voted for him twice? Pure communist trash as well!
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
Talked to a guy last night and he is a CPO on the USS Carl Vinson. He told me that under Obama a lot of times the pilots would have to get their flight time in on simulators instead of air time.......piss poor way to train if you ask me.

He also told me they are more than thrilled with Trump, Said he can't remember when morale was this high.

I told him to tell his buddies to never doubt the support of his fellow Americans, he smiled and said "you all proved that last November". It was an privileged to talk with the man and an honor to shake his hand.
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
Given that today is Thanksgiving Day, give thanks that Hillary Clinton was not elected President of the United States of America!!

Hillary Clinton would have continued to destroy the U.S. just as that rotten communist traitor Obama tried to do. If she had followed Obama, the U.S. would have NEVER been able to recover from 16 years of their traitorous actions, profound, putrescent corruption, and their intent and determination to destroy our Constitution, Rights, Liberty, and Freedom.

Be thankful, boys and girls. I damned sure am.

L.W.
Posted By: 340boy Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie


How about the people who voted for him twice? Pure communist trash as well!
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And that is frightening. Those are the people that are going to destroy this great nation. They are traitors also.
Have thought for quite some time that Zero was merely a symptom of much deeper problems. He was opportunistic in taking advantage of our divisions, nothing more.

Keep your powder dry; Hell is coming to town on a pale horse.
Posted By: Gibby Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Have thought for quite some time that Zero was merely a symptom of much deeper problems. He was opportunistic in taking advantage of our divisions, nothing more.

Keep your powder dry; Hell is coming to town on a pale horse.


That is all he knows from the Chicago Soapbox.

The DNC knew that.
Posted By: JWD8310 Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
Morale should be improving. At least the pilots still have enough sense of humor remaining to skywrite dicks!
Posted By: 340boy Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
Originally Posted by JWD8310
Morale should be improving. At least the pilots still have enough sense of humor remaining to skywrite dicks!

Haha! True, that. I think there is still some hope for this country – imagine if Hillary had been elected instead? 😡😬
Posted By: viking Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
When he is worm dirt, he will be worth something.
Posted By: JWD8310 Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
Originally Posted by 340boy
Originally Posted by JWD8310
Morale should be improving. At least the pilots still have enough sense of humor remaining to skywrite dicks!

Haha! True, that. I think there is still some hope for this country – imagine if Hillary had been elected instead? 😡😬


Yeah, they would have been hung from a yardarm by now if hitlery got elected.
Originally Posted by 340boy
He did his best to destroy this country and darn near succeeded. I think of him as a traitor.


You have to be a Citizen to be a Traitor.

Greatest Terrorist in the History of this Country is a better fit for him.
Originally Posted by 340boy
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie


How about the people who voted for him twice? Pure communist trash as well!


And that is frightening. Those are the people that are going to destroy this great nation. They are traitors also.
The scary part is that these Obama voters are running our schools and teaching our kids to vote like they do. The long term prognosis isn't good.
Only two solutions as I see it. One is spending major funds to upgrade and catch up. Second it one of two choices: Increase pay and benefits to enlisted in order to attract more men, or initiate the draft. Or both. I think that if you start drafting more men will enlist, and those with qualifications and abilities you want, so they have more say in their service choices.


I'd think if you sent a notice that they are to report on a date 90 in the future, unless they enlist prior to that, I think a great many would enlist so they go where they want to go.

I can't see any other way.
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Have thought for quite some time that Zero was merely a symptom of much deeper problems. He was opportunistic in taking advantage of our divisions, nothing more.

Keep your powder dry; Hell is coming to town on a pale horse.


Exactly right, as I See it. While he was the anti-American president, he represented an equally ignorant, misguided, and devious ant-American electorate. Additionally, he and his woefully brazen wife acted in embarrassing arrogance and unmitigated hubris like the entitled couple in trailer 2C in the corner who then won the Power Ball lottery.

I see him as an angry man in spite of his path to college, the Ivy's, and the presidency being aided in every way by the very culture he feels is racist and unfair. I believe he is a racist and can barely contain it.

Yet, he is a symptom, as mentioned above, and more importantly, voted in by a large, ignorant, intellectually weak, and devious segment of the electorate. These folks don't see the dubious point on the trajectory they have taken from from past times and true conservative principles and they are also the product of of a devolving culture.

This is not reversible unless a hundred years and a true miracle are in the offing.
No time for finger pointing, that changes nothing. Gotta look forward, not back.

Looking forward means absolutely nothing unless you know where you’ve been...and why.
There certainly some on this board who voted for the Zero, once or twice, and still crow loudly and proudly about it.
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
There certainly some on this board who voted for the Zero, once or twice, and still crow loudly and proudly about it.


I would guess that the people on this board that voted for zero are wards of the state. Lazy, ignorant, and selfish.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/23/17
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Looking forward means absolutely nothing unless you know where you’ve been...and why.


That is exactly right, History is very important to the direction of the future, to ignore it is a dangerous practice.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Talked to a guy last night and he is a CPO on the USS Carl Vinson. He told me that under Obama a lot of times the pilots would have to get their flight time in on simulators instead of air time.......piss poor way to train if you ask me.

He also told me they are more than thrilled with Trump, Said he can't remember when morale was this high.

I told him to tell his buddies to never doubt the support of his fellow Americans, he smiled and said "you all proved that last November". It was an privileged to talk with the man and an honor to shake his hand.



Yes, I also talked to an active Navy pilot last week & he also confirmed the training via flight simulators; he was recently re-assigned from Hawaii to an AF base in Oklahoma. Says he won't actually be flying a plane again for a year & says he likely will not re-up but will probably go to a commercial airline job instead.

My son is an E5 & until his current assignment, was on a Aegis cruiser in the 7th fleet; he says morale is better since Trump was elected but not exactly sky high. He's coming up on a re-up the middle of next year & has not yet made up his mind on what he's going to do yet.

MM
Originally Posted by 340boy
He did his best to destroy this country and darn near succeeded. I think of him as a traitor.


In that regard he was very successful, he accomplished much of what he set out to do.

When someone rants to me about how incompetent Obama was I tell them that’s not true, he was extremely competent at dividing the country and instituting socialism. Those were his goals and he succeed at much of it. He never intended to do anything good for America.
You are 100% correct..............sadly.

MM
I truly detested obongo but after seeing the corruption and witnessing the alternate agenda of the deep state I don’t know how much responsibility he actually owns. I’m not seeing too much difference between Bush, Klinton and Obongo. Trump is an altogether different beast, completely different from a lifelong political swamp dweller. Obongo didn’t care about the country and allowed the deep state to carry on without interference from the lowly POTUS.
Posted By: 340boy Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/24/17
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by 340boy
He did his best to destroy this country and darn near succeeded. I think of him as a traitor.


In that regard he was very successful, he accomplished much of what he set out to do.

When someone rants to me about how incompetent Obama was I tell them that’s not true, he was extremely competent at dividing the country and instituting socialism. Those were his goals and he succeed at much of it. He never intended to do anything good for America.


Exactly right. Spot on.
Posted By: ismith Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/24/17
Perpetual war is a bitch.
Posted By: mrfudd Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/24/17
Obama was/is a POS, but congress writes the checks. The Senate is probably the most responsible for our current decline. The House has voted to properly fund the military & repeal O care, but Mitch, McCain & company do all they can to obstruct America
Posted By: LouisB Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/24/17
Has everyone forgotten one of his early speeches where he said the US was one of the greatest nations in the world and he was going to change that.
he was the puppet created and sent to do the job he was groomed to do.
Posted By: HawkI Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/24/17
Hil, Hussein and the lot are Maoists, Communists, whatever you want to call them.

A good chunk here already knew that. It's getting POS family members, tit suckers and filth to understand everyone's way of life and peace is at jeopardy and most think they're going to be exempted from nature's course....
Originally Posted by 340boy
He did his best to destroy this country and darn near succeeded. I think of him as a traitor.

there is no other conclusion a person can draw. Barack hussein and his handlers, his sponsors, hated America. Their goal from the git go was to do as much damage as possible. Aided and abetted by progressive republicans, they sowed chaos and damage across the entire fabric of the Country. Socially, economically, militarily, scientifically. It will take years to undo the damage, if indeed, it can be undone at all.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/24/17
Material issues can be reversed in short order with appropriate funding and procurement (Regan did it). However, the systematic destruction of the Warrior Culture via social engineering I doubt can ever be repaired.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Aided and abetted by progressive republicans, they sowed chaos and damage across the entire fabric of the Country. Socially, economically, militarily, scientifically. It will take years to undo the damage, if indeed, it can be undone at all.


Originally Posted by jorgeI
Material issues can be reversed in short order with appropriate funding and procurement (Regan did it). However, the systematic destruction of the Warrior Culture via social engineering I doubt can ever be repaired.



Unfortunately, we need both the material fabric rebuilt & as well as re-establishing the Warrior Culture rebuilt ASAP as the cheese in Asia is beginning to get binding; if we can't do it, then we are really fu^cked & in the not too distant future, the country as we have known it will no longer exist.

And that is a pretty scary scenario, at least to my thinking.

MM
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Obama Really Left a Mess - 11/26/17
Originally Posted by ismith
Perpetual war is a bitch.


I agree but what about Israel ? They live it every minute of every day.


Iran: Israel Will Be 'Eradicated' In Next War

One of Iran's top military commanders has said the Islamic Republic will intervene in any future conflict between Israel and its paramilitary ally in Lebanon, Hezbollah.

Mohammed Ali Jafri, the commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), said it was clear Lebanon was Israel’s primary focus and as such Iran and its network of proxy forces would unite to intervene against an attack.

Related: Saudi Prince Mohammed Bin Salman Says Iran Leader Is Like Hitler But Trump Is Right Man For the Job

"It is a proven claim that today we say any new war will lead to the eradication of the Zionist regime," Jafri said, according to the semi-official Iranian news agency Fars.

Jafri’s comments were made against a backdrop of increasing tension between Iran and Saudi Arabia over the rival nation’s proxy wars across the Middle East but particularly over internal strains in Lebanon.

A meeting of the Arab League in Cairo called by Saudi Arabia on Sunday condemned the powerful Lebanese militia Hezbollah and Iran, accusing both of supporting terrorism and extremist groups with advanced weapons and ballistic missiles.

In response the Lebanese president Michel Auon defended Hezbollah, saying his country was subject to Israeli aggression and, as such, had the right to protect itself.

On November 4 Lebanon was thrust to the forefront of Sunni Riyadh and Shiite Tehran’s power struggle when the country’s leader, Saad Hariri, resigned during a visit to Saudi Arabia. Since returning to Beirut Hariri has agreed to stay on in his role at the request of Hezbollah-backed Aoun, despite having said specifically that he would allow himself to become a pawn in Iran’s meddling in Lebanese affairs.

In a Thursday interview with the New York Times Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince, Mohammed Bin Salman, said Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khameni, the Supreme Leader of Iran, was the “new Hitler of the Middle East.” He went on to further compare the sectarian power struggle in the region between Riyadh and Tehran to Europe in World War II.

Om Tuesday, the commander of the Lebanese Armed Forces, a lesser force to the battle-hardened Hezbollah militia, called for his troops to prepare to confront Israel amid the escalation.

According to the Times of Israel, General Joseph Aoun warned that Israel had hostile intentions against Lebanon, its people, and army. “I call upon you… to be fully prepared on the southern border to confront the Israeli enemy’s threats and violations,” he said in a s speech.

Israel has repeatedly intervened in the war in neighboring Syria to stop Hezbollah from establishing a foothold on the border. On Monday Israel’s Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman requested a $1 billion over a three year period to boost the country’s defense in light of developments in Syria.


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