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A portrait set among shelves of books and a typewriter, lends an air of credibility that an iPad mini can’t quite replace.



I take all into consideration and believe no one 'til I have worked it over myself, torn it apart, rebuilt it, and nailed it to the wall prior to painting and sealing the edges.


And then most times I go over it again because I have been known to tell a fib or two in my time, so it pays to check.


Otherwise known as "paper will take [bleep]".
I dunno. I guess I really don't GAF who liked Kennedy. Frankly I think there are thousand more politicians who need it too
I watched the interview of that retired spec ops gent in the 1st pic some yrs back and it was chilling and he was fearless to do that interview considering those who "went away" after making certain comments that flew in the face of the Warren Report.

The best book I've read on the subject after reading 4 books on it is "The Life and Times of A Mafia Kingfish" (that's close to the title of it). Also, big Jim Garrison was on to some very pertinent schiittt in his case against Clay Shaw.

One wonders if Trump will release what he recently has been advised on or just use it as a "trump" card for later bargaining.
You are asking if I believe attention whores?
Is the possibility of NEITHER story being totally right or wrong on the table for consideration?

What I do believe is that we will never . . . NEVER know the whole truth.

What makes anyone think the truth, if it differs from the reports would have EVER been committed to paper.

It has always offended me that the did not whack the kennedy most deserving aof being whacked

Putting tin foil hat back on the shelf.
https://www.memresearch.org/documents/Ghosts1.php
Originally Posted by gitem_12
I dunno. I guess I really don't GAF who liked Kennedy. Frankly I think there are thousand more politicians who need it too


My problem with it is that J Kennedy and R Kennedy wanted to drain the swamp. The illuminate werent going to let that happen. I doubt they will now, as you can see with the charade of thid this kangaroo court headed by Sessions, Rosey, and Mueller.

Their assassination resulted in the deaths of 50,000 innocent American boys in Vietnam. That ought to piss anyone off.

It seems to me, the John and Robert werent the ones who needed whacking.
Evidently that CIA guy and FBI guy are retards according to the Ghost in the machine, Sport. wink
@ 3.05.....the 'Bullet hole in the windshield' image is taken from within the car, and it shows a clear and obvious indentation.

how could such indentation form when he is claiming the bullet came come from the front?

https://www.gettyimages.ae/detail/n...dshield-of-president-picture-id576877642


Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
You are asking if I believe attention whores?


Plenty believe Obama and book selling X-SEAL T6 members that O.B Laden got dumped at sea... grin


Oswald killed Kennedy, Ruby killed Oswald......for crying out loud, let it go. 55 years later, what difference does it make who did it, or who didn't do it. Even if there was a conspiracy, I'm pretty certain that most, if not all, of the conspirators are dead.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
You are asking if I believe attention whores?


It's more likely a person with 16k posts,in less than seven years,is an attention whore rather than a Special Forces operator.LOL
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Oswald killed Kennedy, Ruby killed Oswald......for crying out loud, let it go. 55 years later, what difference does it make who did it, or who didn't do it. Even if there was a conspiracy, I'm pretty certain that most, if not all, of the conspirators are dead.


"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it", said Edmond Burke the philosophical founder of modern political conservatism.
Regardless, the Kennedys were (and still are) a POX upon this country. and too bad nobody got to the fat one before the 1965 Immigration Act...
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Regardless, the Kennedys were (and still are) a POX upon this country. and too bad nobody got to the fat one before the 1965 Immigration Act...


That's not the point Jorge.Were living through the modern version of a political assassination.The deep state that colluded to literally murder a president almost fifty years ago,are the same organizations with different members,who are conducting this political assassination of the president today.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Oswald killed Kennedy, Ruby killed Oswald......for crying out loud, let it go. 55 years later, what difference does it make who did it, or who didn't do it. Even if there was a conspiracy, I'm pretty certain that most, if not all, of the conspirators are dead.



I had a an upper level History professor who was distinguished with many honors in his field. One thing he used to teach us (rightfully) was that "Americans love a conspiracy theory ". I have found that to be true.
Pres. Nixon was pretty sure that he knew who, even named him.
Are we talking, who setup the hit or who did the shooting?
Life Magazine in several issues shows who the shooter was.
Nov. 29, 1963 page 24 frame 2 , then Oct. 2 1964 frame 3, and again in Nov. 25 1966 page 40 issue, frames marked 193 and 206.
As for who arranged the event, George W. would certainly zoom to the top of the list.

One reason to reveal who arranged this would then show just how deep this goes and who these players are. If all the dots get connected the American people would be voting much differently in the future. So would people in other countries. There will be no world peace, no 1000 yr. millennial until these players are revealed, both from the past, connecting the dots to the current ones.
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Regardless, the Kennedys were (and still are) a POX upon this country. and too bad nobody got to the fat one before the 1965 Immigration Act...


That's not the point Jorge.Were living through the modern version of a political assassination.The deep state that colluded to literally murder a president almost fifty years ago,are the same organizations with different members,who are conducting this political assassination of the president today.


That is your belief and I could not disagree more regarding the Kennedys. I shed not tears over the death of those two..
Originally Posted by jorgeI
That is your belief and I could not disagree more regarding the Kennedys. I shed not tears over the death of those two..



If I remember correctly your family is from Cuba and I can understand your animus towards JFK.His failure to provide support for the Bay of Pigs invasion was pathetic.It only displayed weakness and provided impetus for Khrushchev to build the Berlin wall and attempt to install ICBM's in Cuba.But this isn't my point.

If the assassination of a sitting president was crafted or covered-up by the very organizations tasked with protecting our nation,then we have a constitutional crisis.

It appears that these very organizations with different actors are attempting a soft coup of our sitting president today.I believe there is too much power in the hands of unelected officials and their misuse of this power will further damage our Republic.

These very actors stood idly by while a pathological lying,crack smoking,dick sucking,closet homosexual,Communist,Muslim criminal ran rough shod over our nation.Where was the concern of these so-called patriots when Obama was conducting his criminal activities?

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
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"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."


"If you expect a people to be ignorant and free, you expect what never was and never can be" Thomas Jefferson
Who the hell uses a typewriter?
Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Oswald killed Kennedy, Ruby killed Oswald......for crying out loud, let it go. 55 years later, what difference does it make who did it, or who didn't do it. Even if there was a conspiracy, I'm pretty certain that most, if not all, of the conspirators are dead.



I had a an upper level History professor who was distinguished with many honors in his field. One thing he used to teach us (rightfully) was that "Americans love a conspiracy theory ". I have found that to be true.



Of course they do, and the JFK assassination may be the biggest conspiracy of them all. I was 13 when it happened, and over the years, I've been back and forth about what really happened. But......does it really matter? It's not going to change a thing after all these years, and sometimes it's best to let a sleeping dog alone.
Originally Posted by K22
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"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."


"If you expect a people to be ignorant and free, you expect what never was and never can be" Thomas Jefferson



The Demonrat Party is counting on such ignorance fueled by irrational hatred of anyone who doesn't promote abortion,homosexuality,unchecked immigration and every vile dangerous activity in which they believe.
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by jorgeI
That is your belief and I could not disagree more regarding the Kennedys. I shed not tears over the death of those two..



If I remember correctly your family is from Cuba and I can understand your animus towards JFK.His failure to provide support for the Bay of Pigs invasion was pathetic.It only displayed weakness and provided impetus for Khrushchev to build the Berlin wall and attempt to install ICBM's in Cuba.But this isn't my point.

If the assassination of a sitting president was crafted or covered-up by the very organizations tasked with protecting our nation,then we have a constitutional crisis.

It appears that these very organizations with different actors are attempting a soft coup of our sitting president today.I believe there is too much power in the hands of unelected officials and their misuse of this power will further damage our Republic.

These very actors stood idly by while a pathological lying,crack smoking,dick sucking,closet homosexual,Communist,Muslim criminal ran rough shod over our nation.Where was the concern of these so-called patriots when Obama was conducting his criminal activities?

"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

i respect your opinion, however, I just don't believe there was a "deep state" conspiracy too kill the Kennedys.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Of course they do, and the JFK assassination may be the biggest conspiracy of them all. I was 13 when it happened, and over the years, I've been back and forth about what really happened. But......does it really matter? It's not going to change a thing after all these years, and sometimes it's best to let a sleeping dog alone.


"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it", said Edmond Burke the philosophical founder of modern political conservatism.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Regardless, the Kennedys were (and still are) a POX upon this country. and too bad nobody got to the fat one before the 1965 Immigration Act...


That's not the point Jorge.Were living through the modern version of a political assassination.The deep state that colluded to literally murder a president almost fifty years ago,are the same organizations with different members,who are conducting this political assassination of the president today.


That is your belief and I could not disagree more regarding the Kennedys. I shed not tears over the death of those two..



LOL, I'm in TOTAL agreement with Jorge!

No loss over the Kennedys at all.
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Regardless, the Kennedys were (and still are) a POX upon this country. and too bad nobody got to the fat one before the 1965 Immigration Act...


That's not the point Jorge.Were living through the modern version of a political assassination.The deep state that colluded to literally murder a president almost fifty years ago,are the same organizations with different members,who are conducting this political assassination of the president today.


That is your belief and I could not disagree more regarding the Kennedys. I shed not tears over the death of those two..



LOL, I'm in TOTAL agreement with Jorge!

No loss over the Kennedys at all.



The unmasking of who did it has nothing to do with anyone's opinion of the Kennedy's, but has everything to do with the Deep State. JFK said he was going to get rid of the CIA....."I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds", and was going to throw out the Federal Reserve. He actually had the Treasury start printing money again. His mistake was not acting upon the splintering fast enough and leaving the Federal Reserve board in the United States. This is what got him assassinated along with his brother and his son who never stopped investigating.
Failing to connect the dots from the past to the present will have us repeating this [bleep] all over again. Lets not be ignorant.
All the conspiracy theories are the by-product of being lied to by our govt.
A side note to this: When JFK attended Harvard University his roommate was my Uncle. Kennedy was a year ahead of Uncle Herb. When JFK graduated he promised my Uncle that when he graduated if he would look him up he would give him a job. Uncle Herb retired as a GS 17 in the CIA. Many on this side of the family were scattered all through the Government, Henry K. is related to me also...............by marriage.......his first one.
Small world.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
All the conspiracy theories are the by-product of being lied to by our govt.



Yes. Well said.
Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Regardless, the Kennedys were (and still are) a POX upon this country. and too bad nobody got to the fat one before the 1965 Immigration Act...


That's not the point Jorge.Were living through the modern version of a political assassination.The deep state that colluded to literally murder a president almost fifty years ago,are the same organizations with different members,who are conducting this political assassination of the president today.


That is your belief and I could not disagree more regarding the Kennedys. I shed not tears over the death of those two..



LOL, I'm in TOTAL agreement with Jorge!

No loss over the Kennedys at all.



The unmasking of who did it has nothing to do with anyone's opinion of the Kennedy's, but has everything to do with the Deep State. JFK said he was going to get rid of the CIA....."I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds", and was going to throw out the Federal Reserve. He actually had the Treasury start printing money again. His mistake was not acting upon the splintering fast enough and leaving the Federal Reserve board in the United States. This is what got him assassinated along with his brother and his son who never stopped investigating.
Failing to connect the dots from the past to the present will have us repeating this [bleep] all over again. Lets not be ignorant.


This^^^. As you can see, its happening now to Trump. The wheels in this country, Sessions, Comey, Clinton, Rosey, Mueller, Bushes, Rubios, Grahams, etc dont care one whit about what we think of it either. Our Govt is giving us the big fat F you finger.

They arent worried a bit about if they railroad Trump for spitting on a sidewalk or wtf we think about it. This is not unrelated to the Kennedy deal.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Regardless, the Kennedys were (and still are) a POX upon this country. and too bad nobody got to the fat one before the 1965 Immigration Act...



Tell me about it. I'm sure Obama has a framed copy of that taken out of the "How to Destroy America" manifesto.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Regardless, the Kennedys were (and still are) a POX upon this country. and too bad nobody got to the fat one before the 1965 Immigration Act...


That's not the point Jorge.Were living through the modern version of a political assassination.The deep state that colluded to literally murder a president almost fifty years ago,are the same organizations with different members,who are conducting this political assassination of the president today.


That is your belief and I could not disagree more regarding the Kennedys. I shed not tears over the death of those two..


How about the 50,000 guys the deep state got killed in Vietnam then. The same deep state military industrial complex is still running things from behind tge scenes, evidently.
Some of you need to research the Immigration Act of 1965 a little more thoroughly.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Some of you need to research the Immigration Act of 1965 a little more thoroughly.



Good point.
for what it's worth on the kennedy's. When bobby was running for president, just a few weeks before he was killed, he made a campaign appearance in phoenix at the then christown mall if i remember right, either there or the park central mall. I was there with my girl friend.
after his speech he wandered out in the crowds, my girlfriend and i approached him, face to face, and i shook his hand. It was very hot outside but his hand was cold as ice. I never forgot that, nor did i forget how easy it was to get next to him, i kept wondering what the secret service was doing. It was only a few weeks later in california he met his doom. I have always wondered about how easy it was to get next to him.
I told my girlfriend at the time I felt very uncomfortable for some reason, it just didn't seem right somehow.
Originally Posted by gitem_12
I dunno. I guess I really don't GAF who liked Kennedy. Frankly I think there are thousand more politicians who need it too

it was, of course, a big deal at the time. There are so many layers of obfuscation that the 'truth', what ever that is, will never be known. I agree with the part of more need to go the same way, John.
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