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I really, truly, don't know who is more pathetic. The spineless parents, or the parasite kid.

This is one reason we have some of the messes we have today.

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A 30-year-old man court-ordered to vacate his parents' home on Tuesday said he should be given more time to leave because of how much his parents "harassed" him about moving out.

Michael Rotondo, of Camillus, New York, had been living rent-free in his parents' Syracuse-area home for eight years when a State Supreme Court judge ruled on Tuesday in his parents’ favor, ordering him to move out.

Rotondo, who plans to appeal the decision, said he stopped speaking to his parents when they "alluded" to wanting him to leave the house in October, just one month after he lost custody and visitation rights of his son.

"I'm not bothering them by living here, It's little to no cost to them, and considering how much they've harassed me, I think it's the least that they should be required to do, which is just let me hang here a bit longer and use their hot water and electricity."

By the end of October, Michael Rotondo said his parents were demanding he get a full-time job, health insurance and sessions with a therapist, but he said he "didn't need any of those things."

"My parents alluded to the fact that they no longer wanted me living in the house, and I was devastated from the loss, and not seeing my son anymore," Rotondo said. "After that, I was like, 'I’m done with you guys.'"

Mark and Christina Rotondo said they gave their son multiple notices to vacate and even offered him money to help him find a place of his own.

Michael Rotondo admitted that he accepted the money, but used it for "other things."

"I took it but with consideration for my plans, and how my finances interacted with those plans, I did use the money for other things, but I don’t regret that," he said. "I would have preferred to have kept the money and given it back to them ... but I had to use it, and that's just how it is."

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/30-old-or...ssed-093004235--abc-news-topstories.html

What do you mean by spineless? Seems like they took pity on him for a short time and then threw him out.

He is the fruit of the tree.

Originally Posted by deflave

What do you mean by spineless? Seems like they took pity on him for a short time and then threw him out.

Eight years.

I had a cousin stay with us about twenty years ago and he almost made it to two weeks before I physically threw the lazy useless prick out of the house...he has not amounted to anything since and is no more than an oxygen thief, just because you are related to scum it doesn't mean they get a pass.

Yeah that's excessive but if your kid is as big of kghunt as the one in the OP I'd think dad would just end up in jail and still have a deadbeat in his house.

Live and learn I guess.

Originally Posted by deflave

Yeah that's excessive but if your kid is as big of kghunt as the one in the OP I'd think dad would just end up in jail and still have a deadbeat in his house.

Live and learn I guess.

But see...you and I don't have offspring that are anything like that, and as much as you like to bullshit and horse about I take you for a responsible family orientated fellow that has the heart to not spare the rod, nor the shallowness to let your child sink in to such a torpid wasteful existence.

I used a belt, but yeah.

FAILURE TO LAUNCH....

The father needs his NAKED room - LOL

Intergenerational wet nursing......

Originally Posted by ringworm

He is the fruit of the tree.

Sometimes, then again sometimes not.

Take my best friend. He has 3 boys. Youngest just graduated from UGA, and starts Med school this Fall. Middle son was drafted by the Boston Red Sox right out of high school. Great athlete. Played minor league baseball for 4 seasons, then was released on a Friday and signed to play football with UGA the next Monday. Going into his last season, he will graduate in December and then go to Grad school for Finance. Oldest son was also a great baseballer. Signed a scholarship to play for Georgia State University. Halfway through his first semester, stopped going to class. He quit baseball. Started staying out late - really late- hanging with the wrong crowd. Dropped out of school. Knocked up his "girlfriend" who is so psycho he won't marry her, but lives with her and is raising their kid who is now 2 1/2. No degree, went and got training for HVAC tech. Repeated failed his pee test, so no job Turns out he and the chick snort heroine. Got busted for possession. Judge put him on probation due to first offender and family. Kid won't follow terms of his probation properly, and now has his ass in a wringer. Basically, he went off to school, and Bipolar disorder kicked in and he was an addiction problem waiting to happen. He cannot pull it his life together, and there were no indications that this would be an issue when he was younger. Top student, top athlete, good looking, sociable, respectful, all the things you want to see in your kid.

Same parents, same gene pool. Smart, talented, well mannered, well raised kids. They have a mind of their own and sometimes one will come with issues.

Originally Posted by deflave

What do you mean by spineless? Seems like they took pity on him for a short time and then threw him out.

They sued him and had the court throw him out...

I'd have kicked his worthless ass out a bit differently. He wouldn't have been inclined to come back anytime soon...

Some people just don’t want to work, they don’t want to do anything but sit on their butts.

Originally Posted by hanco

Some people just don’t want to work, they don’t want to do anything but sit on their butts.

And from what I have seen there is generally pussy and drugs involved.

Originally Posted by hatari

Originally Posted by ringworm

He is the fruit of the tree.

Sometimes, then again sometimes not.

Take my best friend. He has 3 boys. Youngest just graduated from UGA, and starts Med school this Fall. Middle son was drafted by the Boston Red Sox right out of high school. Great athlete. Played minor league baseball for 4 seasons, then was released on a Friday and signed to play football with UGA the next Monday. Going into his last season, he will graduate in December and then go to Grad school for Finance. Oldest son was also a great baseballer. Signed a scholarship to play for Georgia State University. Halfway through his first semester, stopped going to class. He quit baseball. Started staying out late - really late- hanging with the wrong crowd. Dropped out of school. Knocked up his "girlfriend" who is so psycho he won't marry her, but lives with her and is raising their kid who is now 2 1/2. No degree, went and got training for HVAC tech. Repeated failed his pee test, so no job Turns out he and the chick snort heroine. Got busted for possession. Judge put him on probation due to first offender and family. Kid won't follow terms of his probation properly, and now has his ass in a wringer. Basically, he went off to school, and Bipolar disorder kicked in and he was an addiction problem waiting to happen. He cannot pull it his life together, and there were no indications that this would be an issue when he was younger. Top student, top athlete, good looking, sociable, respectful, all the things you want to see in your kid.

Same parents, same gene pool. Smart, talented, well mannered, well raised kids. They have a mind of their own and sometimes one will come with issues.

Happens a lot, I have a friend like that, one boy graduated from Cornell, the other from Ithaca College. One is married and has a decent job the other lives at home with his parents in his 30's. Yeah they live in NY.

The old man made it very clear that we were free to live in the house til we were 18 or free to leave earlier if we didn't want to play by the rules.

Lots of adults still living at home these days.

I can't wait to be rid of my kids.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by hanco

Some people just don’t want to work, they don’t want to do anything but sit on their butts.

And from what I have seen there is generally pussy and drugs involved.

Well hell. If they have pussy and drugs in there, sign me up.

Hatari, As you know I live with this scenerio much as you describe every day, 20 months left. Sometimes there is just nothing that can be done to correct the behaviours. It's just what it is.

Originally Posted by deflave

Lots of adults still living at home these days.

I can't wait to be rid of my kids.

I'm with ya.The 26 year old BS ain't going to fly. 21...maybe if they're in college or tech school.

If they can't figure something out by then, I've failed.

Lots of people do.

I think this is more of a reflection of our society and culture than the parents themselves. It's hard to convince them they should be on their own when every outside force is telling them your parents are ass holes. TV, music, schools, da police. I started telling my kids they were out on their ass at age 18 when they were very little. It seems instilled in them because they ask questions a lot about apartments and jobs and similar.

Originally Posted by deflave

Lots of people do.

I think this is more of a reflection of our society and culture than the parents themselves. It's hard to convince them they should be on their own when every outside force is telling them your parents are ass holes. TV, music, schools, da police. I started telling my kids they were out on their ass at age 18 when they were very little. It seems instilled in them because they ask questions a lot about apartments and jobs and similar.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS

Originally Posted by hatari

Originally Posted by ringworm

He is the fruit of the tree.

Sometimes, then again sometimes not.

Take my best friend. He has 3 boys. Youngest just graduated from UGA, and starts Med school this Fall. Middle son was drafted by the Boston Red Sox right out of high school. Great athlete. Played minor league baseball for 4 seasons, then was released on a Friday and signed to play football with UGA the next Monday. Going into his last season, he will graduate in December and then go to Grad school for Finance. Oldest son was also a great baseballer. Signed a scholarship to play for Georgia State University. Halfway through his first semester, stopped going to class. He quit baseball. Started staying out late - really late- hanging with the wrong crowd. Dropped out of school. Knocked up his "girlfriend" who is so psycho he won't marry her, but lives with her and is raising their kid who is now 2 1/2. No degree, went and got training for HVAC tech. Repeated failed his pee test, so no job Turns out he and the chick snort heroine. Got busted for possession. Judge put him on probation due to first offender and family. Kid won't follow terms of his probation properly, and now has his ass in a wringer. Basically, he went off to school, and Bipolar disorder kicked in and he was an addiction problem waiting to happen. He cannot pull it his life together, and there were no indications that this would be an issue when he was younger. Top student, top athlete, good looking, sociable, respectful, all the things you want to see in your kid.

Same parents, same gene pool. Smart, talented, well mannered, well raised kids. They have a mind of their own and sometimes one will come with issues.

I agree with your post and have seen people with bi-polar disorder who are, or can be, all the positive things and all of the negative things that you've written about your friend's oldest son. When they are taking their prescribed meds and seeing their Psychiatrist and Psychologist regularly they are often fully functional contributing members of society, but if their egos get in the way and they start to self-medicate with recreational drugs and/or alcohol they often getting into a downward spiral that is very hard to recover from.

There will come a time where it'll be root hog or die... again.

There's gonna be lots of people in a world of hurt when that happens.

They think it CAN'T happen. Shows just how little they know..

The entire world can change as we know it, in a matter of minutes.

Originally Posted by rockinbbar

The entire world can change as we know it, in a matter of minutes.

No truer words were over spoke.

Nobody's fault except the parents!!

I bet they would do things a little differently.

This new craze of letting kids be kids is dumb.

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

I bet they would do things a little differently.

This new craze of letting kids be kids is dumb.

Kids being kids isn't the problem, adults being kids is.

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad

I bet they would do things a little differently.

This new craze of letting kids be kids is dumb.

Kids being kids isn't the problem, adults being kids is.

Yeah, 30 years old isn't a "kid"...

Geez, I barely made it to my 18th birthday to move out on my own.

Best thing I ever did.

I would not have put up with that as long as they did.
Having said that, my son Lived in my home rent free until he was almost 30. Just proof positive that all situations are not the same.

oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?

Originally Posted by JJHACK

oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?

I'm appalled why anyone would involve the police either..

I'd be kickin' his ass but not to the point of murder...

Some get dropped on the head.....some need to be.

Was hearing of this on the radio today and the only one I feel sorry for is that guys young son that he lost custody of..... What the hell kind of father figure is that clown?

I won't be surprised to read one day that he killed his parents while they slept.

Originally Posted by rockinbbar

Originally Posted by JJHACK

oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?

I'm appalled why anyone would involve the police either..

I'd be kickin' his ass but not to the point of murder...

Tenant Laws.

The parents probably tried to boot his ass out and he called the cops.

My son is going through a divorce right now and stayed with us for awhile, if he decided he didn't want to move out he could have forced us to start eviction proceedings and gotten himself more time.

Often times the jackass living in your place rent free has more rights than you do.

Originally Posted by 12344mag

Originally Posted by rockinbbar

Originally Posted by JJHACK

oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?

I'm appalled why anyone would involve the police either..

I'd be kickin' his ass but not to the point of murder...

Tenant Laws.

The parents probably tried to boot his ass out and he called the cops.

My son is going through a divorce right now and stayed with us for awhile, if he decided he didn't want to move out he could have forced us to start eviction proceedings and gotten himself more time.

Yeah, I understand alla that.

If he were my kid though, he wouldn't have been cheated out of me stomping a mudhole in his ass after I drug him and his schidt out into the front yard.

Originally Posted by rockinbbar

Yeah, I understand alla that.

If he were my kid though, he wouldn't have been cheated out of me stomping a mudhole in his ass after I drug him and his schidt out into the front yard.

And that is why your kid wouldn't even think of pulling that schit, Mine either.

Originally Posted by hatari

Originally Posted by ringworm

He is the fruit of the tree.

Sometimes, then again sometimes not.

Take my best friend. He has 3 boys. Youngest just graduated from UGA, and starts Med school this Fall. Middle son was drafted by the Boston Red Sox right out of high school. Great athlete. Played minor league baseball for 4 seasons, then was released on a Friday and signed to play football with UGA the next Monday. Going into his last season, he will graduate in December and then go to Grad school for Finance. Oldest son was also a great baseballer. Signed a scholarship to play for Georgia State University. Halfway through his first semester, stopped going to class. He quit baseball. Started staying out late - really late- hanging with the wrong crowd. Dropped out of school. Knocked up his "girlfriend" who is so psycho he won't marry her, but lives with her and is raising their kid who is now 2 1/2. No degree, went and got training for HVAC tech. Repeated failed his pee test, so no job Turns out he and the chick snort heroine. Got busted for possession. Judge put him on probation due to first offender and family. Kid won't follow terms of his probation properly, and now has his ass in a wringer. Basically, he went off to school, and Bipolar disorder kicked in and he was an addiction problem waiting to happen. He cannot pull it his life together, and there were no indications that this would be an issue when he was younger. Top student, top athlete, good looking, sociable, respectful, all the things you want to see in your kid.

Same parents, same gene pool. Smart, talented, well mannered, well raised kids. They have a mind of their own and sometimes one will come with issues.

Remember Cain and Abel. Same parents same gene pool.

Originally Posted by JJHACK

oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?

Civil vs. Criminal based on state law would be my guess.

Dave

Originally Posted by JSTUART

Originally Posted by hanco

Some people just don’t want to work, they don’t want to do anything but sit on their butts.

And from what I have seen there is generally pussy and drugs involved.

two sets of pussy and lots of drugs