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Posted By: Windfall $167,500. - $218,750. a day! - 08/31/18
For throwing a #%&*ing football!!! That is what Green Bay is paying Aaron Rodgers with his new four year contract extension. Our football season is 200 days long and that 33.5 million ($167,500./day) is guaranteed and incentives can take it up way higher. What an absolutely obscene amount of money! Okay the guy is good, but pay for play has become extreme. Back in the 60's Jerry Kramer got a $5,000. raise and the guys in the locker room wouldn't even talk to him.
Posted By: memtb Re: $167,500. - $218,750. a day! - 08/31/18
It is insane! Many years ago when talking wages.....I I remember my great grandfather telling my father, “ Ain’t no man worth $25 dollars a day”! Times have truly changed! memtb
Much of it is just a game between players to see who can get the most. They already make more than they can reasonably spend. It's an ego thing. Even if we had a big league team near here, there's no way I'd spend the money to watch them play. I have better uses for my money than supporting swelled heads.
They're not doing it on my money. I don't do NFL.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Much of it is just a game between players to see who can get the most. They already make more than they can reasonably spend. It's an ego thing. Even if we had a big league team near here, there's no way I'd spend the money to watch them play. I have better uses for my money than supporting swelled heads.


People in the stands of an NFL game on any given Sunday, Monday, Thursday, or Saturday probably don't cover the full salaries of both teams, players, medical, coaching, support staff, etc. Big $$ for big names is more about selling licensed merchandise and even more about selling advertising time on TV during the game.
Originally Posted by Windfall
For throwing a #%&*ing football!!! That is what Green Bay is paying Aaron Rodgers with his new four year contract extension. Our football season is 200 days long and that 33.5 million ($167,500./day) is guaranteed and incentives can take it up way higher. What an absolutely obscene amount of money! Okay the guy is good, but pay for play has become extreme. Back in the 60's Jerry Kramer got a $5,000. raise and the guys in the locker room wouldn't even talk to him.


No as many people watched back in the 60's, so without the potential eyeballs, the players were not as valuable. If the owners didn't think they were getting a good potential return on their investment, the players wouldn't make as much.

If you are really concerned about the players making too much money, stop watching.

If you can't stop watching, you only succeed in demonstrating the value of the brand.
He's arguably the best QB in the sport, so his salary is commensurate. If you were the world's best at whatever you do, you could demand a hefty salary, too.

Obviously, you're not. Despite your wryly ironic screen name.
....and what are you worth? Should we cap your pay? Maybe do a market survey to decide if your skills are marketable? I don't follow sports much, and football bores me to tears, but anyone who says "he makes too much money" is simply jealous. The free market determines what he is worth, it's not arbitrary in the whole. It's what his presence on the team is expected to generate in revenue at the ticket box, the franchise stores, the endorsements he will bring, and the food and drink he will help sell by playing. The owners will make more off him playing than he will, that is for certain.
It's a lot like patents, and people claiming that someone else should not be able to keep thier own idea and product to themselves, because they have made "enough money" now, and they should be forced to share now.
What someone else makes. Is no business of mine, as it is "what the market will bear", and self regulating. If you feel you need to make a statement, spend your dollars elsewhere.
Posted By: EdM Re: $167,500. - $218,750. a day! - 08/31/18
Just an investment that returns as needed.
He's only worth what someone is willing to pay. Sounds like a free market/ capitalism.
When you are one of the 5 best in the universe at something useful, you get paid accordingly.
Posted By: RJY66 Re: $167,500. - $218,750. a day! - 08/31/18
Whoever is paying him that much is doing it because they expect him to make them more money than he costs one way or the other.
Originally Posted by hatari
When you are one of the 5 best in the universe at something useful, you get paid accordingly.



Assuming there’s a significant market for your skills. How much does the world champion at tiddlywinks make?





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Originally Posted by horse1
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Much of it is just a game between players to see who can get the most. They already make more than they can reasonably spend. It's an ego thing. Even if we had a big league team near here, there's no way I'd spend the money to watch them play. I have better uses for my money than supporting swelled heads.


People in the stands of an NFL game on any given Sunday, Monday, Thursday, or Saturday probably don't cover the full salaries of both teams, players, medical, coaching, support staff, etc. Big $$ for big names is more about selling licensed merchandise and even more about selling advertising time on TV during the game.


The people in the stands (fools IMHO) don't pay the salaries for NFL players or anyone else on the team for that matter. The TV contract is so lucrative for the NFL that every player, coach, assistant coach all the way down the line, every person that draws a salary from that team is covered before they even play a down. The people in the stands that pay $6 for a hot dog, $7 for a beer and $25 to park are lining the owners pockets! I have't watched a NFL game in years. I guess there are enough people watching to justify these salaries or they wouldn't be offered!

Elk Country
I'll laugh my ass off if he gets hurt on opening day and he's out for the season. Probably won't know because I'm not watching the NFL until they fix their anthem rules.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by hatari
When you are one of the 5 best in the universe at something useful, you get paid accordingly.



Assuming there’s a significant market for your skills. How much does the world champion at tiddlywinks make?


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Is there a world championship of tiddlywinks? If so, the best can capitalize at some level on it.
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Probably won't know because I'm not watching the NFL until they fix their anthem rules.


I’m done with the NFL for good. The players have shown their true colors. No rule change can undo that.





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Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by hatari
When you are one of the 5 best in the universe at something useful, you get paid accordingly.



Assuming there’s a significant market for your skills. How much does the world champion at tiddlywinks make?


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Is there a world championship of tiddlywinks? If so, the best can capitalize at some level on it.



It’s a big deal in England and Scotland.






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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by hatari
When you are one of the 5 best in the universe at something useful, you get paid accordingly.



Assuming there’s a significant market for your skills. How much does the world champion at tiddlywinks make?





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As much as the market will bear.
Maybe it's an attempt to solve income inequality in one fell swoop by raisins an average.

After all, what can people with low IQs do besides play football? Or watch football.
His money, none of my business. Fug the NFL, don't watch anymore.
The world's best heart surgeon ought to be making far, far, far, more than the world's best QB. And more than a whole passel of the world's best other things, too, but it's not how the world works anymore.

I never got the whole "what people will pay" justification. A whole lot of people would willingly play very entertaining football for a whole lot less money than players make today. Viewers would still be quite entertained, and profit margins would be that much higher, so normal economic principles simply don't always apply to major sports.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Probably won't know because I'm not watching the NFL until they fix their anthem rules.

I’m done with the NFL for good. The players have shown their true colors. No rule change can undo that.

Honestly, I doubt the players have changed at all. Management castrated themselves at the alter of the political correctness Gods.
Originally Posted by AKtrapper26
The world's best heart surgeon ought to be making far, far, far, more than the world's best QB. And more than a whole passel of the world's best other things, too, but it's not how the world works anymore.

I never got the whole "what people will pay" justification. A whole lot of people would willingly play very entertaining football for a whole lot less money than players make today. Viewers would still be quite entertained, and profit margins would be that much higher, so normal economic principles simply don't always apply to major sports.

There's your first mistake "ought". You don't get to set the value of other people's worth. The free market does. If you EVER buy into the "what ought to be " crowd, you have given away your own right to determine your own worth.
Hmmm...not so much subscribing to a group, as stating that I don't think someone throwing a leather-enclosed pocket of air holds as much significance in life as someone who can save many many lives due to a skill they possess. Then there is the irony of saying that we don't get to set others' worth, due to making statements about others' worth for trying to set others' worth. Interesting. Kind of like saying to someone that they should make their own decisions, when that prompt itself is attempting to make a decision for them...

Also, having and or stating priorities robs me of my own worth?

As well...the Free Market is, above all else...people setting other people's (and their skills) worth.
The team is obviously racist for paying a white guy so much money. I think the rest of the team should kneel during the anthem because it's America's fault.
Posted By: SKane Re: $167,500. - $218,750. a day! - 08/31/18
Originally Posted by colorado bob
He's only worth what someone is willing to pay. Sounds like a free market/ capitalism.



Bingo.
Posted By: rong Re: $167,500. - $218,750. a day! - 08/31/18
guarenteed 100 mil.
not to shaby
I don't give a flying rat [bleep] about the NFL or any other stupid sport league where people pay to see a grown man chase a little ball around a field. It's the most asinine thing on earth IMHO. It shows just how fugged up human beings are where they value someone who does that kind of idiotic crap more than a person who performs a service that actually benefits mankind in general...
Originally Posted by RickyD
They're not doing it on my money. I don't do NFL.



Nor mine, phuque the nfl, piddler and guntruck50 too!
Tell you what: next time you go to the doctor, you "ought" to pay him $167,000 a day. Out of your own pocket.

After you do, you can run your mouth all you like.
“Fugk liberals, they are idiots and support socialism!”

“Some people make too much money.”

“Celebrities and athletes make too much money, especially compared to more useful contributors to society.”

“They don’t deserve that money.”



Good lord. The greasy liberals don’t understand economics either but at least they know they are against capitalism.

Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Tell you what: next time you go to the doctor, you "ought" to pay him $167,000 a day. Out of your own pocket.

After you do, you can run your mouth all you like.


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Originally Posted by Windfall
For throwing a #%&*ing football!!! That is what Green Bay is paying Aaron Rodgers with his new four year contract extension. Our football season is 200 days long and that 33.5 million ($167,500./day) is guaranteed and incentives can take it up way higher. What an absolutely obscene amount of money! Okay the guy is good, but pay for play has become extreme. Back in the 60's Jerry Kramer got a $5,000. raise and the guys in the locker room wouldn't even talk to him.


Same amount throwing, running, blocking or kneeling, right?
Originally Posted by hatari
When you are one of the 5 best in the universe at something useful, you get paid accordingly.


That's the irony of it, nothing any NFL or NBA player does is useful. What they do is as useful as a couple of six year olds playing catch in the back yard. A mindless distraction and entertaining, but in the end nothing was invented, no disease was cured, and nothing useful in any realistic sense of the word was accomplished.
As long as people are dumb enough to watch it, the salaries will grow.....To me it's just a bunch of rich kids playing a game. I don't watch it and never have.
Originally Posted by bobinpa
As long as people are dumb enough to watch it, the salaries will grow.....To me it's just a bunch of rich kids playing a game. I don't watch it and never have.
They weren't rich before playing the game. That whole kneeling thing isn't about the anthem or anything else other than the root cause of what the next civil war will be. Racism is alive and growing and it isn't the white folks who are pushing it.
It's just Capitalism at work, if he was a Socialist he'd be happy with a Participation award. Well, he might not be happy but that's what he'd get.

The Entertainment Industry generates a bunch of cash but...

I'm happy to be me and doing what I do.
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
Originally Posted by bobinpa
As long as people are dumb enough to watch it, the salaries will grow.....To me it's just a bunch of rich kids playing a game. I don't watch it and never have.
They weren't rich before playing the game. That whole kneeling thing isn't about the anthem or anything else other than the root cause of what the next civil war will be. Racism is alive and growing and it isn't the white folks who are pushing it.

Some of them were rich before they got there, that's part of how they got there..... now they are just a bunch of spoiled, rich brats playing a game.
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