Should know for sure in an hour or so! So much for Trump praising how such a good guy he is...

Trump should be flipping his story about Manafort soon.


Phil

GreyGagger is every bit as funny as JeffO.

What crimes, pray tell would he be flipping on?

Could it be that he needs no help at all being a criminal?

Trot out your evidence, or STFU.

That's what I thought.... Going on 2 years. Not even one single page of evidence whatsoever.

However, on the LEFT, there was collusion running out their asses. Still is.

You are truly a phuucking CORKSUCKING idiot.

What crimes? lol.

Both are the result of watching too much Rachel Madcow.

And sucking dick.

Rachel sucks dick ?

What crimes, pray tell would he be flipping on?

Could it be that he needs no help at all being a criminal?

Trot out your evidence, or STFU.

That's what I thought.... Going on 2 years. Not even one single page of evidence whatsoever.

However, on the LEFT, there was collusion running out their asses. Still is.

Maybe her own if she does yoga

Rachel sucks dick ?

"Not even one single page of evidence whatsoever."

There have been 5 Trump related guilty pleas or convictions; ergo, there is evidence. Mueller's investigation has been particularly tight-lipped, so we don't know much.

But with Flynn, Papadopolous, Cohen, Gates and, van der Zwaan entering guilty pleas (indicates cooperation with Mueller) and Manafor't guilty conviction (and now a guilty plea), there is obviously evidence of crime. From the LA Times, see: http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-mueller-investigation-one-year/#

And, a 2 year Special Prosecutor investigation is not much time; the investigation of Clinton took 8 years, starting with a travel office issue, going into the Paula Jones issue, the Monica Lewinsky issue and eventually into a lying under oath issue.

Most of the really important players have already flipped on Trump. They will all plead guilty and flip against him. This includes Pence.

Trump will be lucky if he isn't hanged after all is said and done.

Lol what are you talking about?? One guy got two weeks in the Pokie, the other guy went down for tax evasion none of it had anything to do with trump lol.. gd how big is your tin foil hat?

Someone please tell me when the spaceship landed and let these retards loose on us. Hilarious how they keep coming back to the trough for more.

Who among us believes you will change any of their collective sock-puppet minds?

Please don't feed or tease the deranged demented gnomes.

(Unless, of course, you enjoy being bathed in their slobber.)

Happy days are here again. MAGA!!!

Demand a Uranium 1 & FISA abuse Special Prosecutor!

RINO's, the tar and feather buckets are waiting!



.

Rachel sucks dick ?

You're not going to like how this ends.

Not as much as you do but yea.

8 years of Trump and you logging off?

Heart wrenching.

You too are not going to like how this ends.

Most of the really important players have already flipped on Trump. They will all plead guilty and flip against him. This includes Pence.

Trump will be lucky if he isn't hanged after all is said and done.

Indictments are coming. A few of Trump's crew will get pinched this week. Probably Friday.

Mueller's investigation has been particularly tight-lipped, so we don't know much.

If Trump hadn’t popped off to Lester Holt about Comey’s firing being somewhat connected to the Russia investigation, there would be no basis for investigating Obstruction, which is about the only thing touching Trump himself.

It’s never too late to shut up.

What??? !!!!! Comey was the lead FBI official that approved the application for the FISA warrant, even though he KNEW the Steele dossier was not only bought and paid for by the DNC, but it was a TOTAL fabrication...HE'S the one who should be under investigation....Trump should have fired every swinging dick in the FBI & DOJ that he was legally entitled to fire...

Comey was fired upon written recommendation for firing him from Rod Rosenstein.

I know....RR should have been fired along with him....I don't know how it can be done, but the upper echelon of the FBI & DOJ need to be gutted....

Well, the only commie missing here is Piddler...

Well... Trumpster too.

But Trumpster stepped on his pecker with Rick.

Lol what are you talking about?? One guy got two weeks in the Pokie, the other guy went down for tax evasion none of it had anything to do with trump lol.. gd how big is your tin foil hat?

I guess I missed that, what gives?

WTF is that rock you been living under Toad?

You obviously haven't been following the investigation. As I implied, there have been no or very few leaks from the Special Prosecutor's Office, although the media and its' contributors has been spouting off various theories and opinions.

BS.

How many media stories begin: An anonymous source close to the Mueller investigation.... yada, yada yada.

Congratulations HllamHawk, you are NOW on the road to recovery!!

He was trashing a serious thread with his neocon BS.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...son-hairston-tragic-passing#Post13110702

But, in order to plea and get reduced sentences, they had to have information that was of interest to the Special Prosecutor's Office or else, he would not have agreed to a plea bargain.

He was trashing a serious thread with his neocon BS.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...son-hairston-tragic-passing#Post13110702

OK, "One guy got two weeks in the Pokie, the other guy went down for tax evasion none of it had anything to do with trump lol.."

But, in order to plea and get reduced sentences, they had to have information that was of interest to the Special Prosecutor's Office or else, he would not have agreed to a plea bargain. Keep in mind, that Mueller's charge was to "investigate any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation", etc.
see: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...bert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html

Before Mueller would agree to a plea bargain, he needs to be assured that the "flipper" has information that is useful to the investigation and that it is verified. Mueller is following all trails and bread crumbs to the end of the trail.

And, we don't know what Mueller has on Trump, his sons or the campaign - yet.

There will always be leaks in any investigation of some sort. But, I don't give great credence to "anonymous" sources, including the anonymous source that wrote a letter to the NYT re the Trump White House. An anonymous source could just be some guy in the DOJ who knows somebody who knows somebody.

A lot of times prosecutors use the plea deal because they really didn't have enough evidence to pull off a prosecution, Or they use the plea deal to save court time and taxpayer monies.

You want it soooooooo bad you can damn near taste it!

You remind me of this guy.

Let me help, and end up like this

...if you were faced with spending the rest of your life in prison, would you agree to get creative with accusations the prosecutor might be interested in???

OH CRUD! That had to hurt!!!!

Whatever he produces, it will have to stand up to microscopic scrutiny to pass muster and save him from a bigger hook. I'd be pretty sure he has useable, very usable dirt to sell.

We live in interesting times.

These male vaginas are really gonna have a comeapart when Trump is re-elected in 2020 along with 2 or 3 more SCOTUS appointments

These male vaginas are really gonna have a comeapart when Trump is re-elected in 2020 along with 2 or 3 more SCOTUS appointments Mag, their fate will be sealed, hell, it may be so much MAGA we can go back to whipping the fu-k outta these stupid sombitches again, they'll then have to STFU and get back in the closet where they belong!

Saw Ol' Ruth Deader Ginsberg on tv today.

She ain't gonna make it ta 2023.

President Trump's already picked her successor.

Saw Ol' Ruth Deader Ginsberg on tv today.

She ain't gonna make it ta 2023.

President Trump's already picked her successor.

LOL, damn right he has, her retirement/death will cause another tsunami of ditch piss from melted snowflakes.

I like the way you think Bro, "Clearly".

I gotta be honest...........I'm still not tired of winning!!

Lol, Imagine to confirmation hearings going on at one time!

Jeff Obama will foam at the mouth so bad his wife will shoot him thinking he's been cheatin on him with a woman.

Manifold has nothing to flip with - relating to Trump.

Really? lol. My sides hurt!

Really? lol. My sides hurt!

Indictments are coming. A few of Trump's crew will get pinched this week. Probably Friday.

Still grasping at straws huh??? Could it be that Manafort may only have information of other crimes not related to Trump?

Let me ask you an honest question DJ...if you were faced with spending the rest of your life in prison, would you agree to get creative with accusations the prosecutor might be interested in???

If I were faced with spending the rest of my life in prison, sure, I'd try everything I could to get a deal. But, in order to get a deal, I'd have to have something (backed with proof or evidence) of interest to the prosecutor.

As noted in another post by 12344MAG, “A lot of times prosecutors use the plea deal because they really didn't have enough evidence to pull off a prosecution, Or they use the plea deal to save court time and taxpayer monies.” This is true in many (especially local) prosecutions in which the prosecutor's office is overwhelmed with cases and has only limited resources. However, in the Mueller Special Prosecutor's office, they have no such restraints. they have a team of very experienced litigators and no time pressure (unless an AG fires him and no one else picks up the case).

Mueller's sole job is to find out what happened (with regards to Russian collusion) and follow all trails regardless of where they may lead. Who knows where they will eventually lead. We know that Trump's sons and Manafort met with Russians trying to get "dirt" on Clinton; we know that there have been 5 guilty pleas and 1 conviction; and, we know that Mueller has information that has not yet been revealed. So, where will the investigation go?

If there is not enough evidence to proceed with prosecution, why did the 5 enter guilty pleas? Why not fight the case and show that Mueller is a fraud? It is interesting that all 5 of the defendants have or had close ties with the Trump campaign.

see: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/14/whos-been-charged-by-mueller-in-russia-probe-so-far.html

Mueller's sole job is to find out what happened (with regards to Russian collusion) and follow all trails regardless of where they may lead.

So how exactly is chasing down old Tax fraud included?

Who feeds you, 1234fag? You're too dumb to feed yourself. Who feeds you? You can't be this dumb. Not possible and still live. Do you live in your mom's basement, assuming she has one in her trailer?

Nobody can be as dumb as 1234fag and still live.

Those nut caught pics are offensive!

Living in conservative land, with only their "true news" sure keeps catching guys here off guard...

Almost every single person Trump hired to help him win the election are now cooperating with Mueller.
Almost every single high ranking person in the Trump Org, that knows his financials and legal dealings are now cooperating with Mueller.


But, you guys keep your eyes and ears shuts, and keep screaming that the life long Democrat, Trump, is now the perfect Republican President that will right the US ship.
Sure helps he was the original Birther...

Rollin Turd and Dumb Jack Schiett and Gayghost, dont you think if Manny had anything on Trump he would have already flipped?

Wouldnt Trump have already pardoned him if Manny had anything on him?

Please, grow da fug up. Re-try jr high on correspondence courses.

PS. The word is out. Your scumbuddy Comey is laying low because a little birdy told him hes at the top of the list to be indicted.

Hahahaha. TFF, for you dumbbunnies.

Then you ain't gonna like this.

"Federal prosecutors in New York are weighing criminal charges against former Obama White House counsel Greg Craig as part of an investigation into whether he failed to register as a foreign agent in a probe that is linked to former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to sources familiar with the matter.

In addition, these sources said, prosecutors in the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York are considering taking action against powerhouse law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, where Craig was a partner during the activity under examination. Prosecutors are considering a civil settlement with the firm or a deferred prosecution agreement with Skadden, these sources said."

From CNN, no less.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/poli...nt-registration-investigation/index.html

This is not accurate. If you read the document by Rod Rosenstein that sets the parameters for the Mueller investigation it says that Mueller is to investigate any possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign and any related matters. It says nothing about investigating collusion by anyone outside the Trump campaign. Thus, Mueller is not empowered to investigate the Clinton campaign, DNC or others that worked with Russian sources to get dirt on Trump. Ol' Rod was pretty slick in the way he set this up.

You will note that the Rosenstein letter also directs the special Prosecutor's office to investigate "any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)".

Living in conservative land, with only their "true news" sure keeps catching guys here off guard...

Almost every single person Trump hired to help him win the election are now cooperating with Mueller.
Almost every single high ranking person in the Trump Org, that knows his financials and legal dealings are now cooperating with Mueller.


But, you guys keep your eyes and ears shuts, and keep screaming that the life long Democrat, Trump, is now the perfect Republican President that will right the US ship.
Sure helps he was the original Birther...

Manafort didn't lightly go into plea deal knowing that he was admitting guilt to not only the two charges he pleaded guilty today but also to the other 5, and the other 10 that had a hung jury of 1 in his last trial. Not to mention turning over his ill gotten gains from those charges consisting of 6 properties and funds remaining in numerous bank accounts all toll amounting to more than 49 million in seized assets with the guilty plea. Basically lifetime probation and unlimited corporation anytime requested and he even gave up the right to have his attorneys present.

Phil

OK, "One guy got two weeks in the Pokie, the other guy went down for tax evasion none of it had anything to do with trump lol.."

But, in order to plea and get reduced sentences, they had to have information that was of interest to the Special Prosecutor's Office or else, he would not have agreed to a plea bargain. Keep in mind, that Mueller's charge was to "investigate any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation", etc.
see: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...bert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html

Before Mueller would agree to a plea bargain, he needs to be assured that the "flipper" has information that is useful to the investigation and that it is verified. Mueller is following all trails and bread crumbs to the end of the trail.

And, we don't know what Mueller has on Trump, his sons or the campaign - yet.

SCOTUS pick #3 gonna happen right after Ginsburg falls face first into a vegan sandwich.

And there's NOTHING you can do about it.

The food chain is growing shorter. Usually, bigger fish eat smaller fish, but in this case it seems the smaller fish are gobbling upward in the food chain.

I do wonder/when others in the June 2016 meeting with the Russians might be charged. We know the Trump Jr. originally stated the meeting was about adoption and later changed to "getting dirt on Hillary Clinton. If any of this (or other statements/actions) were given under oath, perjury charges might be in order.

see: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/06/us/politics/trump-tower-russia-meeting.html

I think if it gets bad enough Democrats can also take back the Senate. This steady stream of bad news and the tightening noose around the Dumbster is eroding support among people who have a brain. Read: Not you guys.

I think Kavanaugh will be confirmed. Even if both Collins and Murkowski vote no, that will only create a tie that Pence will break. The Republican party will pay a huge price if Roe is overturned, though. The arc of history will not be denied. Progress, not regression, will win out. Of course, if Trump, et al, is found to have conspired with foreign adversaries to win the electoral college, then his entire presidency and all his actions should be ruled invalid. That would be fitting, his entire life has been invalid.

I think if it gets bad enough Democrats can also take back the Senate. This steady stream of bad news and the tightening noose around the Dumbster is eroding support among people who have a brain. Read: Not you guys.

I think Kavanaugh will be confirmed. Even if both Collins and Murkowski vote no, that will only create a tie that Pence will break. The Republican party will pay a huge price if Roe is overturned, though. The arc of history will not be denied. Progress, not regression, will win out. Of course, if Trump, et al, is found to have conspired with foreign adversaries to win the electoral college, then his entire presidency and all his actions should be ruled invalid. That would be fitting, his entire life has been invalid.

The food chain is growing shorter. Usually, bigger fish eat smaller fish, but in this case it seems the smaller fish are gobbling upward in the food chain.

I do wonder/when others in the June 2016 meeting with the Russians might be charged. We know the Trump Jr. originally stated the meeting was about adoption and later changed to "getting dirt on Hillary Clinton. If any of this (or other statements/actions) were given under oath, perjury charges might be in order.

see: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/06/us/politics/trump-tower-russia-meeting.html

Living in conservative land, with only their "true news" sure keeps catching guys here off guard...

Almost every single person Trump hired to help him win the election are now cooperating with Mueller.
Almost every single high ranking person in the Trump Org, that knows his financials and legal dealings are now cooperating with Mueller.


But, you guys keep your eyes and ears shuts, and keep screaming that the life long Democrat, Trump, is now the perfect Republican President that will right the US ship.
Sure helps he was the original Birther...

Why you braindeads think the Times is a credible news source is beyond me. The 2016 meeting ended up being a plea for the Trump administration to ease the Magnitsky Act which keeps the Rusky Oligarchs from doing business in the United States. The Russians retaliated by not allowing Russian kids to be adopted in the United States. So in effect it was about adoption. If you would actually do some research instead of idiotically parroting the Borg propaganda you might learn something. Oh but is it possible for a moron to learn something?

All the Manafort deal means is that Mueller has no intention of stopping the witch hunt until he and the swamp take Trump down.

Looks like Mueller's witch hunt bagged another witch. How many more to come?

Why is there even an investigation??? Because of bogus misinformation submitted to the FBI VIA the DNC and the media, which was fed the information by the FBI in order to obtain a FISA warrant....kinda crazy huh???....if the left is gonna condone this type of schitt, is it going to be ok for Trump to set up his own deep state??? Are you guys sure you wanna play this game with a guy like Trump??? Payback is a bitch and don't start crying when he starts shoving it up your backside without so much as a kiss...

Not quite as to why a Special Counsel was appointed.

The Special Counsel (Mueller) appointment in May 2017, followed a series of events that included Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and Comey's allegation that Trump asked him to drop an FBI investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. No fake news here, these are specific and verified events. Sure, the Special Counsel looked into other events, but the reason there was a Special Prosecutor appointed stemmed form Comey.

....Of course, if Trump, et al, is found to have conspired with foreign adversaries to win the electoral college...

"Why is there even an investigation??? Because of bogus misinformation submitted to the FBI VIA the DNC and the media, which was fed the information by the FBI in order to obtain a FISA warrant....kinda crazy huh???.."

Not quite as to why a Special Counsel was appointed.

The Special Counsel (Mueller) appointment in May 2017, followed a series of events that included Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and Comey's allegation that Trump asked him to drop an FBI investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. No fake news here, these are specific and verified events. Sure, the Special Counsel looked into other events, but the reason there was a Special Prosecutor appointed stemmed form Comey.

You mean the same James Comey that signed off on the warrant application for Carter Page? The same James Comey who knew the "dossier" was a paid for manufactured document that was leaked to the media in an effort to give it a little extra veracity....THAT JAMES COMEY??? The same James Comey that exonerated Hillary (which he legally had no right to do) even after he laid out a very damning case against her??? THAT JAMES COMEY???

Need more???

If Comey or Clinton did anything illegal, then the Trump DOJ should initiate legal proceedings.

So Rosenstien is overseeing the Mueller investigation into firing Comey after he (Rosey) gave Trump a letter recommending firing Comey?

Gotcha.

Your facts are correct , Barry, but you are overlooking the fact that Trump told a National TV audience that “ he had the Russia investigation in mind when he fired Comey”. If he had just gave the reasons Rosenstein used in his letter, Obstruction would not be in play. Unlike “ collusion “, obstruction IS a well defined crime and the fact that arrow is in Muellers quiver can be laid to Trump shooting his mouth off.

Neither Paddler and his buddies, nor the most ardent Trumpkins are going to be dancing in the streets when Mueller finishes his investigation. The most Trump is likely to suffer is some embarrassment, assuming he is capable of feeling that.

2020 belongs to Trump and there’s NOTHING you can do about it.

You're not going to like how this turns out.

You're not going to like how this turns out.

If Comey or Clinton did anything illegal, then the Trump DOJ should initiate legal proceedings.

You're not going to like how this turns out.

Your desperation makes me all tingly.

Why do you quote bullsh*t sources?

Scares the hell out of you. The swamp is draining.There is nothing you or they can do about it.FBI and DOJ will be staffed with patriots.

Your facts are correct , Barry, but you are overlooking the fact that Trump told a National TV audience that “ he had the Russia investigation in mind when he fired Comey”. If he had just gave the reasons Rosenstein used in his letter, Obstruction would not be in play. Unlike “ collusion “, obstruction IS a well defined crime and the fact that arrow is in Muellers quiver can be laid to Trump shooting his mouth off.

Neither Paddler and his buddies, nor the most ardent Trumpkins are going to be dancing in the streets when Mueller finishes his investigation. The most Trump is likely to suffer is some embarrassment, assuming he is capable of feeling that.

Trump is letting those snakes go down the rabbit hole as deep as they can before he buries them in it. He isnt the least bit worried about those traitors as long as military intel continues to protect him. He has the goods on the deep state crooks.

Ralph, Why don’t you address the point I made about Trump opening himself up to Obstruction charges by linking Comey’s firing to the Russian investigation?

The lack of legitimacy of the FISA application has nothing to do with Obstruction. The claim he made to Lester Holt and his constant whining about Sessions on Twitter is what’s fueling the Obstruction investigation. Forget Conspiracy..... that ain’t going nowhere.

Gene, i think you are letting your distaste for Trump color your perspective. Trump can shut Mueller down whenever hd wishes by releasing the FISA docs unredacted.

Trump is letting those snakes go down the rabbit hole as deep as they can before he buries them in it. He isnt the least bit worried about those traitors as long as military intel continues to protect him. He has the goods on the deep state crooks.

He wasnt blowing smoke in the election when he picked a scab about Putin finding Hillarys "lost" emails. He was giving us a clue, just as he did after the election when he remarked about us having reached a moment of reckoning and later when he remarked about the calm before the storm.

I sent money to and supported Cruse until Trump won the nomination.

I am a lot happier about supporting Trump than i would be if i werent.

God bless the US and God bless Trump.

jag, you truly are delusional. Trump asking Russia to "find" Hillary's emails was a clue all right, a clue that the Trump campaign was conspiring with Russia to defraud the United States. More to follow...

It's amazing to me that you guys think he's playing three dimensional chess. He's have to cheat to win at checkers. Of course, if one has a low enough IQ, everybody seems smart....

Drain the swamp? Yes, we can.

Since your reading comprehension is on par with your people skills, I’ll make this as simple as possible...

1. The Constitution does NOT protect the POTUS from being investigated.

2. IF wrongdoing on the part of the POTUS is found as a result of an investigation, the proof is given to Congress and they determine if impeachment proceedings should be initiated. If the D team gets control of the House, you can bet Trump will be impeached, no matter what Mueller finds. The R Senate will not convict.

3. It was the threat of impeachment, and conviction, FOR OBSTRUCTION, that caused Nixon to resign.

What we are watching now is a dog and pony show which is not likely to result in impeachment, but the script for the show was written by Nixon and Bill Clinton.

You would like to be viewed as knowledgeable by members of this forum but your arrogance branded you as a Lightweight as soon as you joined.

Ralph, Why don’t you address the point I made about Trump opening himself up to Obstruction charges by linking Comey’s firing to the Russian investigation?

The lack of legitimacy of the FISA application has nothing to do with Obstruction. The claim he made to Lester Holt and his constant whining about Sessions on Twitter is what’s fueling the Obstruction investigation. Forget Conspiracy..... that ain’t going nowhere.

Since your reading comprehension is on par with your people skills, I’ll make this as simple as possible...

1. The Constitution does NOT protect the POTUS from being investigated.

2. IF wrongdoing on the part of the POTUS is found as a result of an investigation, the proof is given to Congress and they determine if impeachment proceedings should be initiated. If the D team gets control of the House, you can bet Trump will be impeached, no matter what Mueller finds. The R Senate will not convict.

3. It was the threat of impeachment, and conviction, FOR OBSTRUCTION, that caused Nixon to resign.

What we are watching now is a dog and pony show which is not likely to result in impeachment, but the script for the show was written by Nixon and Bill Clinton.

You would like to be viewed as knowledgeable by members of this forum but your arrogance branded you as a Lightweight as soon as you joined.

When this is said and done, Trump may stand alone...but most of his friends and family will be heading to jail.

In case you missed it. https://www.theepochtimes.com/strzo...y-fired-demoted-or-resigned_2624607.html Go to the bottom of the article for a list of names.

You keep jamming that link down everyone's throat, like it's a revelation of value.

Why, what is your point ?....criminals are criminals, I don't care who they are. Old news, new news...same political BS and manipulation of the system.

You keep jamming that link down everyone's throat, like it's a revelation of value.

Nixon resigned because he lost the people.

His approval numbers were really, really bad.

Trump's, so far aren't. In fact nothing the lyin' media has been able to say about him has budged his approval numbers.

Therein lies the difference.

It is phenomenal that so many otherwise clear thinking individuals go blind when a Trumps name is mentioned, but I keep trying.

It is phenomenal that so many otherwise clear thinking individuals go blind when a Trumps name is mentioned, but I keep trying.

You don't think a special investigator should crawl as far up their (and all of their associates) asses as they have with Trump???? Maybe LOOKING for a crime??? Is that how it's supposed to work???

Drain the swamp? Yes, we can.

Apparently not. The BS that the meeting was about adoptions was shown to be false long ago, moron.

You mean the same James Comey that signed off on the warrant application for Carter Page? The same James Comey who knew the "dossier" was a paid for manufactured document that was leaked to the media in an effort to give it a little extra veracity....THAT JAMES COMEY??? The same James Comey that exonerated Hillary (which he legally had no right to do) even after he laid out a very damning case against her??? THAT JAMES COMEY???

Need more???

If there is evidence of a crime at high levels, then a Special Prosecutor investigation is warranted. No one is above the law (not Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Don McGahn, Donald Trump Jr., etc.)

Why is it that only those who agree with a particular belief is considered a "patriot"? I guess beauty is only in the eye of the beholder.

Hillary appears to be above the law actually.

How about a few examples of anybody tuning a blind eye to ANYTHING Trump has done....he's under the most intense scrutiny of ANY previous POTUS...hell, he's even survived the "soft coup" attempts by the FBI, CIA, DOJ etc.

EXACTLY WHAT has he done that you find so appalling???

I think you might want to refresh yourself on the definition of obstruction of justice. And while you're at it, Article II. And maybe just the whole constitution while you're googling.

Because Trump will be removed from office, on January 20th 2025. You know, the whole 22nd amendment thing.

I'm sorry your life is going to suck for the next 6.5 years but that's of your own making. The president cannot obstruct justice by firing the head of the FBI, even if he says he's firing the FBI director for investigating the president. Still has not risen to the level of obstruction of justice, and is a protected action under Article II. Especially when the #2 at the DOJ recommends firing the FBI director.

Since you're so smart, I bet you can truthfully tell me that when Comey was fired the muh Russia investigation got squashed because Trump said to end it, right? Wrong. It didn't so you can't. Not even scratching the bottom of the level of obstruction of justice. Constitutionally. Protected. Action.

You don't even have any straws to grasp at. but, if you send me your address, I'll send you some. And a therapy animal. For your safe space.

Only because we don't have a competent Atty General.

Do you ever wonder why they weren't fired under the Obama administration?

Do you think they would have been fired under the Hillary administration?


It does seem to upset liberals though...

Wrong again....who'd have guessed??? A patriotic individual isn't going to support a corrupt administration regardless of political affiliation...there are plenty of patriotic democrats....they're just too stupid to realize WTF is really happening....

Your last question is without merit and does not deserve an answer.

Trump should not be above criticism, but a sizable portion of this forum’s membership rush to his defense at the slightest bit of criticism. They don’t defend him on the merits of what is claimed but throw insults at the one claiming it. That just happens to mimic Trumps behavior in the same situations.

I don’t have any use for a managerial style that consists mainly of whining about your subordinates, and doing it publicly. At its best, it is unbecoming and at its worst it is character assasination.

Can ANY of you address that bit of criticism in an adult fashion?

Trump has systematically fired, demoted, and attacked long serving DOJ officials in an attempt to protect himself. So, the fact that somebody has been fired does not in any way prove they are guilty of wrongdoing. It is instead more proof of obstruction of justice by Trump.

This is not going to turn out well for Trump. Truth will come out, hopefully justice will be done. Trump's worst nightmare. The more we know about Trump, the worse it is for him. This is a good reminder that nobody should be allowed to run for President who doesn't release 10 years of tax returns. If that were the case, our country would have been spared this nightmare.

EXACTLY WHAT has he done that you find so appalling???

Since your reading comprehension is on par with your people skills, I’ll make this as simple as possible...

1. The Constitution does NOT protect the POTUS from being investigated.

2. IF wrongdoing on the part of the POTUS is found as a result of an investigation, the proof is given to Congress and they determine if impeachment proceedings should be initiated. If the D team gets control of the House, you can bet Trump will be impeached, no matter what Mueller finds. The R Senate will not convict.

3. It was the threat of impeachment, and conviction, FOR OBSTRUCTION, that caused Nixon to resign.

What we are watching now is a dog and pony show which is not likely to result in impeachment, but the script for the show was written by Nixon and Bill Clinton.

You would like to be viewed as knowledgeable by members of this forum but your arrogance branded you as a Lightweight as soon as you joined.

'Because Trump will be removed from office, on January 20th 2025'

You are so adorable when you're retarded. The way you do retard is special.

You should stick to muh Russians. That has a much better chance for you to get Trump than Monafort committing crimes during his time as a democrat operative years before he was ever involved with Trump. Maybe this Friday you'll be right about something and Hell will freeze over giving Satan a chance to do snow sleigh tours of the flying pig zoo.

Obstruction of JUSTICE??? For WHAT CRIME????

ETA: Because he fired Comey??? Laughin here...Comey was neck deep in the corruption and if YOU think he was wrong by firing Comey, you need to question your own mental health.....

Saul Alinsky’s 13 Rules for Radicals

Excerpted from Saul Alinsky’s book: Rules For Radicals, published in 1971.



1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.“ Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.“ It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.“ Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.“ If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.“ There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.“ They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.“ Don’t become old news.

8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.“ Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.“ Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

10.“The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.“ Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.“ Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.“ Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

Saul Alinsky’s 11 Rules on the Ethics of Means and Ends

Excerpted from Saul Alinsky’s book: Rules For Radicals, published in 1971.



1. One’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s personal interest in the issue.

2. The judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment.

3. In war the ends justify almost any means.

4. Judgment must be made in the context of the times in which the action occurred and not from any other chronological vantage point.

5. Concern with ethics increases with the number of means available and vice versa.

6. The less important the end to be desired, the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluations of means.

7. Generally success or failure is a might determinant of ethics.

8. Morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.

9. Any effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical.

10. You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.

11. Goals must be phrased in general terms like “Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,” “Of the Common Welfare,” “Pursuit of Happiness,” or “Bread and Peace.”

Obstruction for firing Comey is just damn dumb. Does the FBI not have a [bleep] chain of command?

Obstruction for firing subordinates is a joke and as weak as it gets.The President under Article II has the power and authority to fire all these clowns. However what is most interesting is that Rod Rosenstein who agreed in the firing and processed the action is the same guy who signed on to FISA warrant submissions knowing that the whole thing is a phony made up investigation. Can't be obstruction if the DOJ agrees with the assessment of firing Comey. Its not like Rosenstein is a fan of the President either. In addition Obama new about Russian interference back in 2015, him and the pathetic Brennan did nothing, not a thing. Two of the most inept cowards on the planet. How is Russian interference a Trump problem? Its not and never was. We are being bamboozeled by our inner government and the media to destroy a man at all cost. It is despicable and now very transparent.

It’s only transparent to the folks willing to look at it with their eyes open. Kruger-Dunning syndrome prevents most #NeverTrumpers from seeing what’s actually happening.

Aww, don't be butthurt, princess. Nobody can take away your sweet memories of Trump before Mueller destroyed him.

Shh, just lie back and relax. It will all be over soon. And don't tell anyone. Nobody will believe you anyway.

So Mueller already destroyed Trump? Did Trump get that message?

What are you going to do when Pence runs in 2024?

Only people worried about Trump getting removed from office are #NeverTrumpers.

Oh, and Pence is VP. Remember that. He takes over if Trump is removed from office. You can't win. Not until 2020. And there's no commie that can beat Trump. You can call me a retard all week and twice on Sunday, but we both know I'm right and you're fugged until 2025- January 20th. Maybe, by then, the commies will pull their heads out of socialism's ass and run a moderate candidate that can win. Maybe.

I have no problem with Pence. I have a problem with a POTUS who goes on stage in Helsinki with Putin's [bleep] on his chin and reveals to the world that he's owned by Russia. Trump couldn't even pretend he wasn't Putin's puppet. At least fake it for Christ's sake.

Bring on Pence.

It is phenomenal that so many otherwise clear thinking individuals go blind when a Trumps name is mentioned, but I keep posting.

I have no problem with Pence. I have a problem with a POTUS who goes on stage in Helsinki with Putin's [bleep] on his chin and reveals to the world that he's owned by Russia. Trump couldn't even pretend he wasn't Putin's puppet. At least fake it for Christ's sake.

Bring on Pence.

If any of you still think Putin doesn't own Trump's lying ass after that display of cowardly self-pissing that Trump put on.......

PS- you're starting to see it because your handlers are starting to tell you to.... it's the beginning of the end.

What's good about Trump baring his ass like that was that it forces even the conspiracy-addled partisan dumbphucks -- and by that I mean YOU-- to begin to realize that yes, there's something weird going on.

You'll deny that, but we both know you're lying.

Trump engaged with Russia to hack the election. He's clearly owned. Even you numbnuts are realizing it. He's in the process of getting caught. And the egotistical son of a bitch will burn it all down- or try to- rather than go down in history as one of the great traitors of all time. The only real question left here is how many retards he takes down with him. Based on this forum, it'll be more than a few.

And I'll be laffin'. Hell, given I've already been soooo right while you've been soooo wrong I'm already chuckling every time I toss a few brain cells towards thinking of you [bleep]. Thanks for that fellas.

So Mueller already destroyed Trump? Did Trump get that message?

What are you going to do when Pence runs in 2024?

Only people worried about Trump getting removed from office are #NeverTrumpers.

Oh, and Pence is VP. Remember that. He takes over if Trump is removed from office. You can't win. Not until 2020. And there's no commie that can beat Trump. You can call me a retard all week and twice on Sunday, but we both know I'm right and you're fugged until 2025- January 20th. Maybe, by then, the commies will pull their heads out of socialism's ass and run a moderate candidate that can win. Maybe.

Your last question is without merit and does not deserve an answer.

Jeff_Ovary agrees......Who woulda thunk it?

Should know for sure in an hour or so! So much for Trump praising how such a good guy he is...

Trump should be flipping his story about Manafort soon.


Phil

Publically ridiculing your subordinates is not “ leading “ in my opinion.

A Major chewing out a Lt. in front of his platoon is unheard of, and for a number of good reasons.

Well, the circumstances the deep state has put him in leaves him little choice....if he fired those people you're talking about, they'd charge him with obstruction or some other bogus BS....I don't really care for the tweets, but I want him to continue doing what he's doing for America and Americans....don't you??? Or would you rather suffer under a socialist????

AFAIC, the tweets and comments are a small price to pay, considering the alternatives.

I’m in favor of most of the moves he has made. But it bothers me that he can’t just accept those things that he can’t change instead of constantly bitching about them. It indicates some flaw in his character and that’s dangerous in a man with so much power.

Trying to build yourself up by tearing other people down is not something I tolerate in “ friends “, and I don’t admire it in anyone.

I’m in favor of most of the moves he has made. But it bothers me that he can’t just accept those things that he can’t change instead of constantly bitching about them. It indicates some flaw in his character and that’s dangerous in a man with so much power.