Sold my collection of arrowheads this morning to an older gentleman who is no longer able to hunt for em.
Sent him a bunch of pics.
Basically told him the one pine tree point in my shadow box of 48 points was worth at least 250 dollars to the right
End of the rainbow buyer.
He totally agreed
Had other ones also sent him pictures of.
Met him at a local resturant.
Elderly couple with their daughter and SIL
Showed him the shadow box of 48 points covering every time frame from mississippian to paleo
His eyes lit up basically.
I told him flat 250 firm for the shadow box per ad in the peddler paper and we could discuss the other stuff.

Told him I priced the box value to end of rainbow buyers per major websites at around 1800 -2000
He totally agreed
Looked at other stuff , lots of mid to early archaic and paleo stuff
Said it was the start of about half of another shadow box and the end of rainbow value on those were around 800 900ish

We discussed things

400 for it all.

Then I was hold on sir
I got more and you will enjoy it.
Brought in 5 1 gallon freezer bags of broke stuff.
Told him it is all yours and I know you will enjoy going thru it all
And probably 1/ 3rd of it ain't washed and I know you will enjoy cleaning stuff up.

He was literally the most happy guy on the planet right then and their.


So anyways I hauled my butt up to a pawn where I seen this pistol and went thru it hard in early December
229 OTD
Been carried but not shot very much
Feed ramp smooth, got very little copper out of the barrel
Lands still have bluing on em
Internals and moving surfaces very little wear
Barely perceptable cartridge and primer ring Mark's on face of bolt
Cleaned right off actually with a little solvent
Came with extra 15 rd mag and left hand belt holster that is useless to me

I just got done breaking it completely down to pins and springs and components
Cleaned ,reassembled, functions check and live round cycle check 15 + 1 rounds down back behind the house.

Ran like a top....

Perfect back pocket pistol

Couple ex nazi engineers left walther in the late 40,s or early 50,s
Started up bersa in nazi friendly Argentina and probably told Walther to suck an egg about PPK patent schit.

Khan (wife) seen me cleaning it
You bought another gun!!!!
Told her yep I sold rocks and bought this and have plenty left to buy slugs , a nice case, 20 gauge bore snake for my new slug gun also.

She wasnt a happy camper cause she couldn't get upset.
Hahahahah!!





15+1 .380 3.5 inch barrel
Back pocket pistol


Perfect to carry around arrowhead hunting this spring.
Fugging snakes, fugg with me now bytches.

Tell she can buy herself some happiness too if she wants to go pick up rocks

😄😄

If i sell any of mine, I'm gonna buy some really good pot

WTF?

Where you live why dont you just grow some,

I bought steel with rocks
Made an old arrowhead hunter happy as hell


I'm heading up to new providence Blvd
See if I can find a couple of doobies to celebrate it all.


Hahahaha!!!

Ya right....
I got 3 inch Remington 20 gauge accutips to buy.
The only smoke I buy are pall mall lights.

July 12th 1983 last time with happy smoke

Hahahaaa!!!!

Im talkin indo

Fugg that ditchweed

Also while I was in the pawn shop while the younger girl was doing bc and 4473 stuff
I asked if some body could show me a windham and Bush master m4 clones.
Woman in mid to late 60,s got the 1st one outta the rack.
Banging clanging bumping falling sideways onto adjacent wpns.
Gives it to me. Got trembling hands ,arm tremors
Look at it , give it back repeat with next . Same stuff
Both brand new hang tag guns getting all marred up cosmetically.

I actually said to manager
This is why wpns get all scared up due to employee haphazard handling of them
Manager says she has early alzheimers.
I say to her so if I bought one of them new m4,s that are all scuffed up and got blems on the plastic and parkerizing you gonna knock off 40 or 50 bucks cause you dont wanna hurt her feelings and tell her she is damaging the appearance of em and you are not going to show guns anymore

I got a dirty look , that was about it.

Now while I was looking at the 2 and she was clanking and clunking against the rack and other wpns in the rack
About 3 or 4 employees were watching this like it was a regular occurance with her.
They was seeing me grimacing on each clang and clunk and gave me the look of" nothing we can do about it"
Then I heard the manager call her over by the jewelry cabinets after the gorilla from american tourister got down with her gun rack bull in a China shop routine.

"Mom can you come over here and show this ring to these people"





Got my pistol and left.

Partial example of why new guns are blemmed up bad at times.

My vanguard was chinked up by Wally Methfingers at the walmart gun counter. Shaky the scarecrow from wizard of oz.

I remember watching all that.

Employees are just so fugging aloof of what they do to firearms with the way the handle em at times

Not all
But I would dare to say at least half fugg up the finish on guns all the time.

Wait il you see what the cops do to um when they take em outa your house.

Yeah I have an idea. They were too stupid and/or too lazy to put up the power windows on a mercedes I was looking at recently at a judicial task force seizure sale. See chit like that often.

Dad was a cop...He died 20 years ago but at the end there, He carried a .40 S&W for his duty weapon and had the Bersa .380 in an ankle holster for backup. I fired it...Liked it. It is a damn good gun that will do its job with aplomb.

All my time in the woods over the years and I've never found an arrowhead. Once I was leading a group bird watching and this elderly lady looks down and there's this perfect triangular chipped arrowhead. Me, never found a one. Prob'ly I've been looking the wrong direction.

Did you at least ask her if she was looking for a place to rent?

That Bersa 380 is a fine pistol with a great trigger and will serve you well congrats. Widow

I've never sold an arrowhead. I've given a few away and have been gifted a few.

Bad karma to sell things that the spirits in the sky have entrusted to your keep. Esp those you find. Who me! superstitious ? No way. GW

Knock on wood...

Never sold any of mine, I guess because most of them were found here on my farm, and there is a sentimental value to them. Due to all the no-till farming going on these days, I probably won't find many more. So, it's not like I can go out an replace them.

Well the way I look at it .
Stone versus steel.
You can find stone but it's like a box of chocolate,s you never know what your gonna get.
And when you know what particular steel you are looking for and find it. You better jump on it then and their.
Spirit from stone to steel is transferred in my mind....
If I had a time machine and showed up the day prior to a buffalo hunt about 7 or 8000 yrs ago in the middle archaic era with say ... my model 70 ot6 and about 100 rounds then schooled up the head honcho of a group for about 3 hrs in basic rifle marksmanship. Dude would cast his spear or atalyl aside and whack buffs from 300 yards away.
Native Americans ( their descendants) were very quick to adapt to firearms and many times vastly outgunned whites.
One day I found a perfectly intact Clovis. My bud slumlord was staring down the barrel of a kidney transplant in 2 days.
I sent him a pic of it cause I really wasnt positive about it.
He was chyting bricks looking at the pic, broke away from work to come over and look at it.
Confirmed clovis.
After a few minutes of him checking it out, he went to hand it back.
Said it's yours brother you got me into this hobby 3yrs ago(at the time 4yrs ago) and you been at it for 30 plus yrs and ain't never found one yet.
Dude was speechless for about 20 seconds.
That is what friends do for one another.
Far as the sale to the older gentleman who cant get out and hunt em anymore.
Well I look at it this way.
He got almost 3000 dollars worth of intact arrowheads for 400 dollars
48 prime ones in a shadow box and about 25 others that was gonna be the start of another for me
Covering every era from mississippian to early paleo
And 5 1 gallon freezer bags full of brokes to go thru and examine and 1/3 of em need to be cleaned.
I'm sure he is enjoying em and the spirit of em has been transferred to another who knows the thrill and intrinsic value of the hobby.

I bet when he hears the clinking and tinking noise of worked stone hitting each other in a bag or on the table
The music of that sound for those that know it. Is something good for him to hear again.


I can only hope when I'm in my late 70,s or 80,s and can no longer get out to hunt em.
That I can run across someone trying to sell stone for steel also.
Might be a karma set up for me pass it along type of thing.

I have gotten probably 6 or 7calls since Thursday about the arrowheads from the peddler ad
I bet Jamesjr seen it if he picked up Thursday edition.
Sold a 30- 30 in it also that I bought basically for its black walnut stock for my project 30- 30 I completed last summer.
Did a stock flip flop basically and made a 25 dollar profit and obtained the stock set I needed.
Still getting calls about the 30- 30 also.



All the calls from older arrowhead hunters who cant get out and look for em anymore
So they have become collector/ buyers.
2 of em said please keep my number if you find more and wish to sell and put the word out among others that I buy arrowheads

I totally comprehend the desire from older guys to stay in the hunt for em
By the only way they can which is too examine ones for sale and purchase them.

You'll come out much better when selling artifacts to do so at shows...

Gunshows are OK.

But really, I've had much more luck at getting what they are worth at antique and Old West memorabilia type shows.

Best to know what they are worth yourself...

Artifact dealers are scum. They will take you to the cleaners... either by selling you modern, or reworked points, or taking advantage of people that don't know what they have.

We once had a Baptist preacher who was a big arrowhead hunter. That ole bastid would go to people and tell them a sad sob story about how he just liked to get out and look for them, when in fact he was selling every one he found because he was a money hungry ole booger. I had bought a farm that he was finding them on, and he came to me after I bought it and said he was on his way to go looking there, and thought he'd better ask my permission. I told him that I wanted to hunt them myself, and had rather he didn't. He went ahead anyway, and my wife saw him and ran him off. He got all pissy about it, and started in on the how he was a preacher bit. She reminded him that we owned it now, and if we didn't want him there, it was our right. She got the last word in when she told him that a preacher, of all people, should respect other peoples property.

There was man in Hopkinsville KY who had one of the most extensive collections of Indian artifacts in the state. Supposedly, most of them came from his farm upon which a major Indian village had once been located. After he died, the truth begin to come out......he'd been hunting arrowheads for years, and digging for relics, on places where he didn't have permission.

I wasnt out to get full blown retail.
That collection as a whole was sold well below minimum overstreet book stated value.
I sent the gentleman and several others pics of it all

My justification of the price of 250 was a 3 inch archaic pine tree point that was a grade 9 plus bordering on low grade 10
That was worth at least the 250 dollar asking alone

I sold him a 5 inch long haw river blade grade 9 and 6 inch angostura point grade 10
For 40 dollars each.
Both paleo
Angostura,s are rare finds east of the Mississippi
Intact thin haw river
Bout as rare as a clovis in places

I have seen the full blown retail scum at gun shows selling crap for top dollar

One of the reasons the older gentleman was so happy to buy my collection at the price I was asking.

I told him I'm selling stones for steel
I wanta move em and you know what your looking at and know the price is not something to pass on.

Win win for both of us.

Well, a pistol would be a lot better these days than an Injun rock, when it comes to defending yourself. Bullets are always better than arrows. Don't blame you one bit.

Sure not saying you did it wrong, Amigo.

Just saying that sometimes we can leave money on the table.

More $$ = More Guns.

This is the 250 dollar shadow box
Upper right corner is the pine tree point
Obsidian Bradley spike lower left
Unheard of in this area
I'm sure some of ya that know points
Are schitting your pants looking at this

How about that big ole transitional paleo early archaic
Spear in dead center???

I can ID everyone of these points
And the older gentleman was blown away by it also, ID,ing points with me at the table.

No no no no
I undetstand.
I wanted to move em
Sell em to someone who would value em

I wasnt out to get the most I could
I was looking for what I needed.

These were negotiated for 150
The angostura is on the right
The haw river blade left

80 of the 150
All the other paleo stuff in between was talked out to 70

Then after final price was settled for all
I dropped the 5 - 1 gallon freezer bags have fun going thru this on him.


Need ta start hunting again

I got nothing left.
Except for a vg condition 15 plus 1 .380

It was a win win for both of us buyer and seller wise.

He was just paying it forward after hauling in all those Vanguards and Nikons from Wally Land.....

Hahahahaha!!!
I only got one left in .308
I bought 2
Holding onto it for gawd knows why.....
Sold the ot6 and monarch 3 to a friend in Maine
He paid all the shipping and ffl fees both sides
I made a whopping 25 bucks on the rifle and scope total.


Slumlord is the one with the weatherby and monarch scope fort Knox horde

Hahahaaa!!!

Im going broke trying buy to bases and rings for latest 15 rifles I've bought. 😬😄

I need your old guy's number. I got some nut pounders to sell him. hahaha

Very nice Dovetail bottom center of first frame, even with the chip out of the base. Nice variety of materials too. Lots of nice Hopkinsville Hornstone there.

Yeah, I understand.

I grew up, from knee high, hunting artifacts and digging sites with my father. Cumulative effort. That collection was vast, over 2500 perfect points, including Paleo such as Sandia, Folsom, Clovis and others. . Several pottery pieces and other non stone artifacts like sotol sandals, woven mats, antler chipping tools, drills, awls, needles...etc.

Then in the 70's my dad became a drunk. As with most drunks, he was a financial disaster. He sold that entire collection for way, way less than it was worth.


After that, my heart just wasn't in collecting them anymore. I hunted artifacts because of the thrill I got from it. Not for profit. But I did sell what I found. I could tell you some stories, too.... Like a couple of sites where digging would yield somewhere around 100 perfect points per day, and a 5 gallon bucket of broken points.

Don't do much of that anymore today.

My brother and I used to find some points at my grandfathers house in Beaver PA when we were young. He would always come with me to take care of any copperheads that might be around. My father took off and left us for some young hussy. He took all the points, two 6.5 Arisakas and a Japanese officers sword. I really only missed the points and Arisakas.

I found some points in Michigan's UP while going to school at Michigan Tech, I gave those away. Out in CA, I haven't found any points, just some chips near some dried up lakes in the desert. The most interesting thing I found in CA was a bighorns skull and horns (which I left them where they were).

I don't know anything about arrowheads other than I used to like looking for them after a field was chisel plowed. But no till put an end to that. I've had a Bersa for 20-25 years. Great little pistols, very accurate. The only problem I've had was after market magazines, I had to file out the retainer slot in two because the magazine button wouldn't fully engage and would let the magazine fall out after firing one round. Just check that out and it will be a great little pistol for you, your kids. or your grand kids down the line.

The other 15rd mag is a bersa factory mag also.


I had priced a brand new thunder plus about 4 months ago
It was 354 otd
Priced a extra 15 rd factory bersa mag
Another 43 otd


This pistol has very little surface wear on moving parts.
And 2 holster spots on the L/S slide.

I think it was carried but not shot alot.

Gonna bring it to the indoor range tommorow see how it shoots for accuracy at 7 10 15 20 yards

Got a box of win white box 95,s
Box of rem umc 95,s
Box of fed champion 95,s

One of em gotta group better than the other 2.


I'm happy with the gun

Anything you have laying around that you can turn into a handgun, is a win-win.

Good snag!

Ed

When I was a kid we lived in Modoc County up in NE California and found a bunch of obsidian arrowheads and such. I have no idea what happened to all the ones we picked up.

I do remember finding a good one was so common we didn't bother with broken ones. I think picking one up like that now would probably get you jail time there.

I also remember seeing a big shadowbox with the centerpiece being a big spear head while visiting someone up there one time. Renegades picture brought that back.
They also had an old bear trap which I remember, being 7 or 8 at the time that really impressed me.