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Another load of B.S. no doubt
you don't want to know my opinion on that bs that just got posted over the wire.

but i guess negotiation is all that's left?
What is?

The article or Trump's alledged compromise?
Any word on what he's going to say before he says it is BS. It's just news people trying to scoop the others and means nothing.
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Details: The offer is expected to include Trump’s $5.7 billion demand for wall money in exchange for the BRIDGE Act — which would extend protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) — and also legislation to extend the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders, according to a source with direct knowledge.


I doubt the Commiecrats will do that.
the demo's won't compromise so the Prez has to? is that it?

uh no, it shouldn't work that way at all.

but it might turn out that way.
Here's the Bridge Act,...in case that's what's being offered. It says that it will affect 750,000 illegals. (which means that it will affect about 5 million)

They will all end up with citizenship and voting rights.

https://immigrationforum.org/article/bridge-act-bipartisan-solution-dreamers/
Originally Posted by Gus
the demo's won't compromise so the Prez has to? is that it?

uh no, it shouldn't work that way at all.

but it might turn out that way.



That's the way it always is.

The spineless republicans cave.

When they should be doubling down.

Get real. Close the border. Send the military to defend it.

Order the halls of congress closed due to shutdown, and only open meetings can be held in the White House with joint sessions of senate and house.
FOX just announced that the OP is what Trump is going to do.

Whether or not the Bolsheviks will accept it is unknown.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Any word on what he's going to say before he says it is BS. It's just news people trying to scoop the others and means nothing.


I fear not.

We keep 750,000 illegal soud americanos?
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Any word on what he's going to say before he says it is BS. It's just news people trying to scoop the others and means nothing.


I fear not.

We keep 750,000 illegal soud americanos?


750,000 is a bullshit number. It will go into the millions.
Don't worry the democrats will reject it.. Trump will say I tried and the democrats will look like incompetent losers again.. Again this is supposed to be something a democrat president is supposed to do. Not Donald Trump..
Originally Posted by Bristoe
FOX just announced that the OP is what Trump is going to do.

Whether or not the Bolsheviks will accept it is unknown.


It is a known.
The Commiecrats will NOT deal on anything unless Trump opens the govt back up.

If he does, they will fugg him. (And us.)
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Any word on what he's going to say before he says it is BS. It's just news people trying to scoop the others and means nothing.


I fear not.

We keep 750,000 illegal soud americanos?


750,000 is a bullshit number. It will go into the millions.


Thats just the fugfers too dangerous to return to el salvador, Nicaragua, and Guatemala. Unreal.
He needs to announce that he's bringing in the military to fill all necessary positions until the Democrats get off their butt and do something
DJT just came on to speak. I will listen to him rather than speculate.


mike r
Sounds like hes fixin to declare a national emergency.
Crap.
Damn,....I hope the Bolsheviks refuse the offer. Trump's compromise will turn Texas and Florida blue at the latest 2024,.....maybe even 2020.
The commies won't take the deal.
Dead on arrival.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Dead on arrival.



Yes.

But now everyone knows the offer was out there, and when they refuse, and he goes Postal, and declares a natl emergency, he can say he tried to deal... And they refused.
Wtf man......
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Squidge
Dead on arrival.



Yes.

But now everyone knows the offer was out there, and when they refuse, and he goes Postal, and declares a natl emergency, he can say he tried to deal... And they refused.

Hope you're right man...
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Squidge
Dead on arrival.



Yes.

But now everyone knows the offer was out there, and when they refuse, and he goes Postal, and declares a natl emergency, he can say he tried to deal... And they refused.

QFT

He set the trap
They will jump in with both feet.

I was hoping for more, but I understand what he did and why.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Sounds like hes fixin to declare a national emergency.

Bingo......
Yep, he set the ambush w/out a chance that his claymores will be reversed. Enough compromise to control the dialogue w/out surrendering. The mindless will still wail on both sides.


mike r
Ann Coulter's response on Twitter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnnCoulter

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Trump proposes amnesty. We voted for Trump and got Jeb!


Quote
100 miles of border wall in exchange for amnestying millions of illegals. So if we grant citizenship to a BILLION foreigners, maybe we can finally get a full border wall.


Quote
Trump's solution: Let's just amnesty them!


Bottom line, it's still 1 to 2. House vs. Senate/Potus, and the House is ramrodded by a MF idiot. I watch all of these people and think
"Not a single one of them has ever owned a pocket knife.".
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The commies won't take the deal.


Yep. Trump’s got them trapped and they’d rather chew their fuggin foot off.
Looks like it.
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Yep, he set the ambush w/out a chance that his claymores will be reversed. Enough compromise to control the dialogue w/out surrendering. The mindless will still wail on both sides.


mike r


The left may think hes starting to crack and cave. They may become more entrenched. That may be what he wants.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Ann Coulter's response on Twitter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnnCoulter

Quote
Trump proposes amnesty. We voted for Trump and got Jeb!


Quote
100 miles of border wall in exchange for amnestying millions of illegals. So if we grant citizenship to a BILLION foreigners, maybe we can finally get a full border wall.


Quote
Trump's solution: Let's just amnesty them!




That guy is an idiot....
I hope the Commies don't take the deal. They're talking loud about not doing it today. But they might wake up tomorrow and realize that they can have enough voters to keep the White house from now on by accepting it.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Ann Coulter's response on Twitter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnnCoulter

Quote
Trump proposes amnesty. We voted for Trump and got Jeb!


Quote
100 miles of border wall in exchange for amnestying millions of illegals. So if we grant citizenship to a BILLION foreigners, maybe we can finally get a full border wall.


Quote
Trump's solution: Let's just amnesty them!


A few years ago I thought she was loosing her mind. This is more evidence supporting my thought.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Squidge
Dead on arrival.



Yes.

But now everyone knows the offer was out there, and when they refuse, and he goes Postal, and declares a natl emergency, he can say he tried to deal... And they refused.


Thats how i see it. R turds and co will say hes breaking and there will be no wall.
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by Squidge
Ann Coulter's response on Twitter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnnCoulter

Quote
Trump proposes amnesty. We voted for Trump and got Jeb!


Quote
100 miles of border wall in exchange for amnestying millions of illegals. So if we grant citizenship to a BILLION foreigners, maybe we can finally get a full border wall.


Quote
Trump's solution: Let's just amnesty them!


A few years ago I thought she was loosing her mind. This is more evidence supporting my thought.


She cut from the same cloth as Margaret Thatcher. Tough as nails. I cant say shes wrong.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The commies won't take the deal.


Yep. Trump’s got them trapped and they’d rather chew their fuggin foot off.



So be it!
His deal looks reasonable enough that the American public will not turn on him when he declares an emergency and does the wall by executive order. Even nancy will have to see this. She's in a box with her own tantrum.
I think with the offer coming from Trump, some of those DACA votes are going to swing his way. Legal immigrants are not a monolithic democrat voting block.
I predict that the Dems will make a counter offer that neither Trump or Senate Republicans will choose to accept and the shut down will continue.
Originally Posted by GunReader
I think with the offer coming from Trump, some of those DACA votes are going to swing his way. Legal immigrants are not a monolithic democrat voting block.


Not a chance.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Bottom line, it's still 1 to 2. House vs. Senate/Potus, and the House is ramrodded by a MF idiot. I watch all of these people and think
"Not a single one of them has ever owned a pocket knife.".



Classic!!!!!
Freaking Pulitzer prize winning Judith Miller on Fox said Trump has worked himself into a box he cant get out of. Biotch has bee a stealth socialist forever. She says hes the one who is to blame for the govt shutdown.
Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Bottom line, it's still 1 to 2. House vs. Senate/Potus, and the House is ramrodded by a MF idiot. I watch all of these people and think
"Not a single one of them has ever owned a pocket knife.".



Classic!!!!!

Or had a busted nose or a beat ass.
There's no escaping it. The US will become a 'chocolate' socialist schithole country.
This was delivered to look like an honest compromise. Knowing full well that the Democrats feel they're winning and will reject the offer. This was a tactic to put the Democrats on the defensive.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Freaking Pulitzer prize winning Judith Miller on Fox said Trump has worked himself into a box he cant get out of. Biotch has bee a stealth socialist forever. She says hes the one who is to blame for the govt shutdown.


She’s just another socialist commie liberal bitch who hates Trump & America. Fugg her!
Coulter is spot on, as usual.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
There's no escaping it. The US will become a 'chocolate' socialist schithole country.

This.
As much as I hate it, dreamers aren't going anywhere, so may as well try to get something out of them. President Trump just painted the GDC's into a corner.
Won’t work, Democrats will see it as weakness and become embolden...big mistake.
The democrats will not go for it.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by GunReader
I think with the offer coming from Trump, some of those DACA votes are going to swing his way. Legal immigrants are not a monolithic democrat voting block.


Not a chance.


"Minority" voters are amazingly monolithic, they have solidarity.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Here's the Bridge Act,...in case that's what's being offered. It says that it will affect 750,000 illegals. (which means that it will affect about 5 million)

They will all end up with citizenship and voting rights.

https://immigrationforum.org/article/bridge-act-bipartisan-solution-dreamers/


AND create an attraction for more to come here illegally.

Only way this works is if it comes with funding for the WHOLE wall and their isn’t actuated until after the wall is complete.

This is just what Pelosi wanted.

Fact that McConnel suggested it says all that needs saying.

If this is really what’s gonna be proposed....
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Here's the Bridge Act,...in case that's what's being offered. It says that it will affect 750,000 illegals. (which means that it will affect about 5 million)

They will all end up with citizenship and voting rights.

https://immigrationforum.org/article/bridge-act-bipartisan-solution-dreamers/


AND create an attraction for more to come here illegally.

Only way this works is if it comes with funding for the WHOLE wall and their isn’t actuated until after the wall is complete.

This is just what Pelosi wanted.

Fact that McConnel suggested it says all that needs saying.

If this is really what’s gonna be proposed....

F--ck that! He needs to just order it built via his authority as Commander In Chief under emergency powers. No amnesty, ever.
Nobody's about to start deporting the dreamers anyway. Not even Trump would do it.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Freaking Pulitzer prize winning Judith Miller on Fox said Trump has worked himself into a box he cant get out of. Biotch has bee a stealth socialist forever. She says hes the one who is to blame for the govt shutdown.


She’s just another socialist commie liberal bitch who hates Trump & America. Fugg her!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
judith miller ;wiki, -Her Russian-born father, Bill Miller, was Jewish. He owned a night club in New Jersey and later in Las Vegas>> I'M SHOCKED - SO SHOCKED .
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
There's no escaping it. The US will become a 'chocolate' socialist schithole country.

This.

This .
Can't start trying to win the game in the 4th quater and 100 points down .
I think he just set a trap that the Dems can’t get out of!
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Nobody's about to start deporting the dreamers anyway. Not even Trump would do it.

They should be the first to be deported.
Originally Posted by lastround
I think he just set a trap that the Dems can’t get out of!

Seven D chess.
Start deporting anyone with gang tattoos or better yet, just shoot them.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by lastround
I think he just set a trap that the Dems can’t get out of!

Seven D chess.


Um, no. The folks not getting paid will at some point blame the one party who can unilaterally open the government. That's on Trump. Each day that goes by he loses an exponential amount of leverage. The democratic congress has passed nine (9) bills to open up the government and get people paid and Mitch McConnell won't allow a vote.

Trump's best bet is to declare an emergency and have the courts shoot him down. At least he can say he tried.


'
Originally Posted by RollingThunder
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by lastround
I think he just set a trap that the Dems can’t get out of!

Seven D chess.


Um, no. The folks not getting paid will at some point blame the one party who can unilaterally open the government. That's on Trump. Each day that goes by he loses an exponential amount of leverage. The democratic congress has passed nine (9) bills to open up the government and get people paid and Mitch McConnell won't allow a vote.

Trump's best bet is to declare an emergency and have the courts shoot him down. At least he can say he tried.


'


What do reckon the Rep/Dem ratio is for furloughed Federal employee that can't make it two weeks without a paycheck?
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Won’t work, Democrats will see it as weakness and become embolden...big mistake.

Thats what he wants. It will prove they are freaking crazy and care more for zeros than US citizens.

He will be the rational one and protect the folks. Then the left will realky go apeschiet.
Originally Posted by RollingThunder
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by lastround
I think he just set a trap that the Dems can’t get out of!

Seven D chess.


Um, no. The folks not getting paid will at some point blame the one party who can unilaterally open the government. That's on Trump. Each day that goes by he loses an exponential amount of leverage. The democratic congress has passed nine (9) bills to open up the government and get people paid and Mitch McConnell won't allow a vote.

Trump's best bet is to declare an emergency and have the courts shoot him down. At least he can say he tried.


'

Dumbass, McConnell wont allow a vote until Trump wants him to. McC didnt allow a vote lately because the commies would have presented a bill with no wall and rinos would have passed it and Trump would have had to veto it, making him look like the problem. He turned his ass and shat on them. Hide and watch just how its done.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
There's no escaping it. The US will become a 'chocolate' socialist schithole country.

I fear you're correct. The only place I've been in recent years that I wasn't absolutely surrounded by colored folk (while in public) was Laramie, WY.
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
There's no escaping it. The US will become a 'chocolate' socialist schithole country.

I fear you're correct. The only place I've been in recent years that I wasn't absolutely surrounded by colored folk (while in public) was Laramie, WY.

Shshshsh! Now the Feds will start offering incentives for those folks to move there.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by RollingThunder
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by lastround
I think he just set a trap that the Dems can’t get out of!

Seven D chess.


Um, no. The folks not getting paid will at some point blame the one party who can unilaterally open the government. That's on Trump. Each day that goes by he loses an exponential amount of leverage. The democratic congress has passed nine (9) bills to open up the government and get people paid and Mitch McConnell won't allow a vote.

Trump's best bet is to declare an emergency and have the courts shoot him down. At least he can say he tried.


'


What do reckon the Rep/Dem ratio is for furloughed Federal employee that can't make it two weeks without a paycheck?


Hahaha. One called in to Joe Pags today pissed at Trump. Not paid in 6 days and missed his rent and is being evicted. Hahaha. Unreal. Theres gotta be more to this.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
There's no escaping it. The US will become a 'chocolate' socialist schithole country.

I fear you're correct. The only place I've been in recent years that I wasn't absolutely surrounded by colored folk (while in public) was Laramie, WY.

Shshshsh! Now the Feds will start offering incentives for those folks to move there.


They're already importing low iq Somalian savages there. Read about it probably about a year ago. Can't have any White areas left you know...
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While emaciated humans prowled the streets like ghouls and ate the flesh of the dead, an army of Goths waited for their kinsmen to open the gates. The AD 410 Sack of Rome was about to begin.
McConnell will introduce Trump's requested legislation, as advertised. The Senate will pass it.

The House will then refuse to pass it.

Trump will end the shutdown by repurposing DoD funds from other uses.

Trump gets the wall, the Dems have no leverage to get what they want, and Trump comes out looking like the adult in the room while the Dems look like the obstructionists that they are.

Troll level: Grand Master.
By the time they finish with us, southern Italians will look pedigreed in comparison.
Politicians one and all.

The bigger problem is the divided country. That's not going away.
All I know is the man ain't getting paid, and don't really need this chit. And if the American people hang him out to dry we deserve just what the prick demorats are giving us. We should be screaming bloody murder to representatives. Prior to civil unrest, and frankly. I don't think we have the balls.




Take care, Willie
Democrats have 100 million illegal voters now but they want another 100 million,
They're cutting cut them loose by the thousands on the southern border right now.

Jail space all filled up.

And there's more coming.
Hell...he ain't asking for but 200 miles of "kinda...sorta" fence on a 2300 mile border. I know individuals that have 60 miles of high fence,
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Hell...he ain't asking for but 200 miles of "kinda...sorta" fence on a 2300 mile border. I know individuals that have 60 miles of high fence,


You're not gonna go all curdog again are you?
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by GunReader
I think with the offer coming from Trump, some of those DACA votes are going to swing his way. Legal immigrants are not a monolithic democrat voting block.


Not a chance.


If Dems accept...DACA still cannot vote.
Originally Posted by deflave
They're cutting cut them loose by the thousands on the southern border right now.

Jail space all filled up.

And there's more coming.






You ain't just chitin. I keep telling a buddy of mine he should send his trail cam pictures to Fox News. But really, nobody gives a chit.





Take care, Willie
Originally Posted by sawbuck
[Linked Image]

While emaciated humans prowled the streets like ghouls and ate the flesh of the dead, an army of Goths waited for their kinsmen to open the gates. The AD 410 Sack of Rome was about to begin.


Helped greatly by unrestricted immigration.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Nobody's about to start deporting the dreamers anyway. Not even Trump would do it.


After watching President Trump vs the Democrats for over two years, this is how I think this will play out.

Pelosi has stated Flat Out, "Not one dollar for the wall" . No matter what President Trump offers up in exchange she will stick to her pledge "not one dollar...", or she will have egg on her face, look week and at the Presidents mercy and she will have to eat some crow.
I highly doubt she will bring this upon herself.

If she doesn't accept the deal, she will look like a mean inhumane Republican that doesn't give two schits about the Dreamers.
I highly doubt she will bring this upon herself.

She is basically damn if she does and damned if she doesn't. The President has put her in a very difficult spot. Now the ball is in her court and she will be forced to make a move.

Remember, not building the wall is not just a way to "get Trump" by stopping him from keeping a major campaign promise, it is the lifeblood of the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party needs open borders to keep an never ending supply of underclass voters. Without the influx of millions of underclass voters, the Democrat Party will cease to exist.

I predict that her move will be to come back to the negotiating table and try (again) to push President Trump around. That will fail once again and the negotiations will also fail once again. President Trump will have cameras at the negotiating table and she and Chuck will again be made to look like fools.

President Trump will say, "well I tried, The Democrats not only do not care about Border Security and the safety of Americans, they do not care about the Dreamers".

Then the Military will build the wall and the Democrats will lose again.
Being a "statesman" is not going to work with these idiots.

Time for Plan B already.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Being a "statesman" is not going to work with these idiots.

Time for Plan B already.

Plan (B) is on the way, he is just making sure the American People know he tried and that the Democrats are the reason plan (B) was implemented.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Being a "statesman" is not going to work with these idiots.

Time for Plan B already.

Plan (B) is on the way, he is just making sure the American People know he tried and that the Democrats are the reason plan (B) was implemented.

I hope so.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Being a "statesman" is not going to work with these idiots.

Time for Plan B already.

Plan (B) is on the way, he is just making sure the American People know he tried and that the Democrats are the reason plan (B) was implemented.

I hope so.

Pelosi and Schumer have already Publicly Rejected President Trump's offer.

They took the Bait and his plan (as usual) worked perfectly.

Plan (B) will be announce soon, but not until President Trump gets as much Mileage out of their Obstruction as he can.

He also needs to wait for RBG to be gone.
Originally Posted by Squidge
I predict that the Dems will make a counter offer that neither Trump or Senate Republicans will choose to accept and the shut down will continue.

Nope, Ds make a counter offer and Trump wins by virtue of making the offer. The counter must give something up in order to be a counter...

He knew they would reject his offer, so he did not actually give up anything.
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by Squidge
I predict that the Dems will make a counter offer that neither Trump or Senate Republicans will choose to accept and the shut down will continue.

Nope, Ds make a counter offer and Trump wins by virtue of making the offer. The counter must give something up in order to be a counter...

He knew they would reject his offer, so he did not actually give up anything.


In fact they rejected it before he even gave it.
You'd think one of those dumbphucks would read The Art of the Deal.
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
You'd think one of those dumbphucks would read The Art of the Deal.


I'm sure they've read it. They are lawyers and its an easy read.

Comprehension is the difficult part.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by Squidge
I predict that the Dems will make a counter offer that neither Trump or Senate Republicans will choose to accept and the shut down will continue.

Nope, Ds make a counter offer and Trump wins by virtue of making the offer. The counter must give something up in order to be a counter...

He knew they would reject his offer, so he did not actually give up anything.


In fact they rejected it before he even gave it.

Yeah.....not a solid tactical move.
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